The American Spectator

Darin| 9.4.09 @ 7:11AM

Cognitive Dissonance is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

Abortion is OK, but abortion of girls is not.

Louis Jenkins| 9.4.09 @ 8:43AM

There is a certain modern attitude against the males of the species. A recent article in a woman's magazine bemoaned the passing of the alpha male as they can no longer offer the security or the manliness that was once prevalent in our modern society. It further stated that some professional women desire a stay at home Mr. Mom who would perform the house and child keeping skills of the 50s and 60s.

With the advent of fertilization techniques that no longer require an active male presence, men have been demoted to "drone bee" status. With the entitlement environment comes support for a 'no-father breadwinner' family. Again, males have been rendered useless.

Men's unworthiness is evident if one observes the trashy evening cit coms that are offered on the 'telly. White and black males are the butt of the jokes. ie, Everybody Loves Ramon. Tell a person he's stupid and unworthy long enough and he will begin to believe it or become psychotic. Since TV is 90% of today's reality (for this society) selective abortion of males should only follow as popular thought. As for Hillary, she has had a grudge against males for a long time.

Liberal Reader| 9.4.09 @ 8:57AM

No... Clinton does not think killing boys is "ok."

She thinks it's positively GREAT. She likes it.

In fact, she likes doing it herself. With her bare hands.

Thank God for a watchdog as vigilant and fact-obsessed as the American Spectator!

Where would we be without it?

Randy| 9.4.09 @ 9:17AM

Abortion IS infanticide I believe at its worst level due to the casual attitude of multitudes of Americans that allow it to happen in our Christian based country. No human has a right to murder another living being just for the sake of , I believe in most cases, their indescretion of immoral mistakes. No one these days wants to fess up to their mistakes, great or small. We all want to easy way out...............in the case of this infanticide we now call abortion, we merely kill the evidence, pure and simple, wash our hands of our dirty little actions and continue to live our lives. In essence we are the equivilant of Nazi Germany during WWll allowing the continued legal killings throughout the fruited plains. Our country will be held accountable for these actions and at the current climate of the debauchery within the current administration it is my belief that the downfall of the nation is at hand . All these touchy feely liberals deem it downright horrendous to water board a thug, whose total lifes ambition is to destroy America, which in itself is not in any way going to lead this tortured one to an untimely death, but they relish the thought of their right to kill a life through an abortion,a little innocent girl or boy. Let us all pray to the Lord to set our country back on the path of a God fearing nation with respect to all life.

artfldgr| 9.4.09 @ 10:09AM

"The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." -- Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Dec. 10,1939. - Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College. (Dec. 10 is the correct date of the letter. There is a different date circulated, e.g. Oct. 19, 1939; but Dec. 10 is the correct date of Ms Sanger's letter to Mr. Gamble.)

Ned| 9.4.09 @ 11:01AM

Wasn't the death penalty abolished in the seventies on the grounds that the way it was being administered was cruel and unusual punishment? The argument was since blacks were executed at a higher percentage than whites it was discrimination, and therefore cruel and unusual.
Well if we are whacking more girls and handicapped babies than boys the same interpretation of the law should apply to abortion as well. And since Mrs. Clinton has broken the ice and called it a duck (infanticide) rather than expelling a hamburger from the belly, this line of attack against abortion might be worth looking into. Or it is just another example of phoniness on the part of liberals.

CopyKatnj| 9.4.09 @ 11:22AM

In Dante's "Inferno" when Lucifer was breaking through the bonds of hell, he was horrified to see a female and dog like creature consuming her.

Father, do you not recognize us she said.
I am Sin and he is death.
We sprung from your head.

I'm sure a knowledgeable reader will know the passage better than my memory, but the point is made.

ccc| 9.4.09 @ 11:28AM

Those countries which are deliberately creating significant gender inbalances are providing a fascinating cultural experiement, which even serve to explain homosexuality. I think the US should facilitate this by preferentially permiting immigration by unmarried young women and discouraging immigration of men.

Ned| 9.4.09 @ 11:41AM

Jake of the Blues Brothers said it perfectly.

Jake: I want to buy your women... the little girl... your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children.

Super Dave| 9.4.09 @ 12:11PM

Great article! The problem is, the one thing a liberal will not abide is a logical debate. Logic that confronts a liberal's core beliefs is just mean spirited hard right wing aggression. It's really all about their 'feelings' now, isn't it?

macdaddy| 9.4.09 @ 12:24PM

This is just a calculation on Hillary's part for 2016. She has absolutely no intention of actually doing anything about sex-selective abortion, much less infanticide. The infanticide was obviously Bush's fault, so now that he's gone, give it a year and the problem will have been magically solved at no cost. It only required that Clinton turned her furrowed brow upon it.

Al Adab| 9.4.09 @ 12:41PM

Here is the issue in a nutshell. Once we decide that some humans are preferable to others, on whatever basis, there is no end of discussion concerning just what those criteria might be. The criteria might be subject to change as governments and philosophies change. We might follow the early eugenic theory or decide that certain groups are not wanted. When human life becomes a subjective call all sorts of evil could follow.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 9.4.09 @ 1:05PM

Ironically, mrs. clinton has strong political and personal ties to several well-known lady killers: her hubby, the recently passed toddy-boy konnedy and the former governor of the state she repped in the sinate, oh wait - the last mentioned paid for it, so possibly does not belong on this list.
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Tim| 9.4.09 @ 2:32PM

Lib Reader you are a meathead.

Michael Tomlinson| 9.4.09 @ 3:43PM

If Hillary Clinton is moving her lips she's lying just like Obama so how can we trust anything she says?

Appleby| 9.4.09 @ 4:33PM

Optimist that I am, I believe that Mrs. Clinton is taking baby steps toward enlightenment here. Somewhere along the line she has begun to think of an unborn baby as a little girl. She does not use the word "fetus" or refer to a "clump of cells" ... she looks at that belly and sees a little girl.

If she were in the room with me, I would want to hear the moment of epiphany, when that connection was made, and what triggered it. If I could encourage her to discover that moment for herself, then I could lead her along to the conclusion that inside some of those (to use the current cutesy term) "baby bumps" are little boys. And I would ask her if she ever looked at an actress, a movie star or simply a woman on the street and saw before her a little boy.

Hillary never had a boy child of her own; perhaps she doesn't relate to them very well. Mine were boys and I also had a foster grandson who had worn out two previous grandmas before he got to me, and I related to him very well too. Some of us get along better with one gender than another.

Perhaps Mrs. Clinton really has nothing against little boys; she just doesn't think about them as much as she thinks about little girls -- after all, she once carried a little girl -- Chelsea was not a Clump of Cells or a Fetus, she was Mrs. Clinton's daughter.

I will pray that her walk along the path of righteousness will continue, and that she will meet people who will encourage her to continue the way she seems to be going. It has happened in this world that the leopard has changed his spots and the Ethoip his skin.

Daisy| 9.4.09 @ 4:50PM

Jeremiah/LibReader; are you a TRUTHER like Van Jones? Ha hahaha!

Nobama| 9.4.09 @ 4:56PM

Appleby, you're a dear. But you must know in your heart of hearts that your lovely, hopeful sentiments about Hillary aren't true. Right?

I will pray for her, too.

Marc Jeric| 9.4.09 @ 5:01PM

La Hillary, the world record holder in cattle furures , has seen the light! So this is not a bunch of cells - it is a girl! Bravo Applebee!

Roy| 9.4.09 @ 5:45PM

Yeah, I dunno. As far as I can tell, the Left abandoned consistency on this issue a long time ago, and it now about raw power. Which they have.

SoCon| 9.4.09 @ 6:16PM

Roy, can't get much more 'raw' than the raw power I've seen exhibited by our fellow Americans lately.

The Left's days are numbered.

DaveS| 9.4.09 @ 7:00PM

Darin, first commenter, had it right. Squeamish, Hillary? The so-called 'right to choose' means any statistical outcome is possible - even those seemingly not random - in fact, preferred. Women aborting exclusively women - N.O.W. that's empowerment choosers can believe in. How sad.

Robert Rosencrans| 9.4.09 @ 8:40PM

Liberalism exists in a haze of double standards, bolstered by lies and deceptions.

Craig| 9.4.09 @ 8:46PM

Appleby,

You expressed a very nice sentiment. From your post I have determined that you were/are a very good mother (at least your heads in the right place).
You've been gentle to Hillary and probably extended more grace than she deserves. In the end though (my behavior is not so forgiving sometimes), it's probably better to err in this direction than the other. My kind regards.

Craig

Eric Dondero| 9.4.09 @ 8:51PM

Bandow claims to be Pro-Life. But as a stridently anti-War pacifist, who vehemently opposed the Wars in Vietnam and Iraq, he aligns himself with anti-Life dictators like Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot and Saddam Hussein.

Bandow's more worred about zygotes in the womb, than living breathing Iraqis, Kurds, and Southeast Asians, slaughtered on the killing fields.

LaughAtU| 9.4.09 @ 10:31PM

My god you people are retarded. I'm so glad that you all get to read articles like this so that when you decide to speak up around friends and family they can laugh at you.

Nobama| 9.4.09 @ 10:37PM

Geez, Eric; what's your beef with Bandow?

I take exception to your 'zygotes' crack, too. You're not much of a pro-lifer, either, are you? Moron.

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Robinson| 9.4.09 @ 10:43PM

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Alan Brooks| 9.4.09 @ 11:19PM

Abortion IS murder.
But if "we" didn't abort babies, more blacks and Jews (and perhaps gays) would be killed by war and murder.

People want to kill even more than they food and sex.

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Yosemeti Sam| 9.5.09 @ 12:25AM

Lamentations, lamentations - from SOS.

" ...
appears disturbed by the logical outcome of her policy preferences.
In commenting on her international agenda for women, she observed
that in some nations "girl babies are still being put out to die."
Moreover, she explained: "Obviously, there's work to be done in
both India and China, because the infanticide rate of girl babies is
still overwhelmingly high, and unfortunately with technology, parents
are able to use sonograms to determine the sex of a baby, and to
abort girl children simply because they'd rather have a boy.
And those are deeply set attitudes." ...."

What a show of crocodile tears. 40 - maybe 50 -
million down the tubes in this country and the SOSs' poignant 'concern' is over Indias' and Chinas' institutionalized blood baths upon female infants? Sexist pigs - those nations?
Got to get their minds right on this 'moral' issue.

Has the SOS per chance urged the POTUS to
bring his empirical prestige on these matters
to bear in this circumstance?

iamse7en| 9.5.09 @ 1:52AM

I love pro-life libertarians. Could you imagine if Ron Paul were our president right now? The recession might have been over right now because he would have allowed the market to correct itself and fix economic imbalances, and also laid off government workers, rather than laying off private sector workers.

It's easy to to agree that abortion is wrong. It's easy to also see the connection with rise in abortion rights with the rise in births out-of-wedlock (if that seems counterintuitive, you're sane, just go read the economic data, read John Lott) which has (along with the welfare state) destroyed the American family. But just because something is wrong, doesn't mean it should be punishable by federal officials. Adultery is morally wrong, but it's quite legal.

Can I be pro-life but question whether it should be illegal or not? I'll admit, I'm a bit confused. This is why I give Romney some slack. All this libertarian influence confuses me. Too much Cato, Reason, Stossel, and Bandow. ;)

Missy| 9.5.09 @ 2:51AM

Nobody has the right to kill another human being, including a pregnant woman.

iamse7en| 9.5.09 @ 3:46AM

Thanks Missy. That's an important statement. If we are defenders of life, than how can it be legal for pregnant mothers to kill their unborn child?

Ron Paul says such a legal decision should be left to the states. I welcome this transition, and I would hope helps protect unborn children throughout the nation.

D Williams| 9.5.09 @ 11:34AM

About 1989 a study was done in New Delhi on the results of abortions in connection with amniocentesis and other new technologies such as ultrasound that could establish the gender of a fetus. The study revealed that of all abortions performed subsequent to testing, 99+percent had been done to kill a female fetus.

I read about this in a Spanish-language newspaper from Madrid. In the US I have spent countless hours trying to find any reaction from US news journals, feminists, government agencies... all without success. This from Hillary Rodham is the first time I've seen any major figure even acknowledge the practice, much less make any sort of value judgment. Sadly but predictably, she's got it wrong again.

Simply, you cannot just invent a gender-based right for "bits of undifferentiated flesh having no more significance than a hangnail."

All previous defense and justification for abortion has promoted the idea that no unborn child has any intrinsic rights. Ms. Dowager Empress C is messing with strong juju to claim that it is okay to abort, but evil to abort female fetuses.

It is the thin end of the wedge. Once you allow that a female fetus has some right to be selectively defended from abortion, you're on a slippery slope. What about the rights of voters to elect gender reassignment? This has been acknowledged already to be a fundamental right of all persons, and is given priority in funding in the UK's financially strapped National Health Service, which will deny funding to women dying hideously painful deaths from advanced breast cancer to ensure the funding for sex-change operations and follow-up care.

So, Ms. Clinton, which is it for us peasants in the USofA? Federal funds to kill male babies in the wonb and provide for people who want to be made different from whatever they started out? But no money to kill females in the womb or old folks with old folk diseases?

What a bunch of moral monsters we have pretending to govern!

Kurt| 9.5.09 @ 6:14PM

Weel written Mr. Bandow. Although it is a bit off of the subject Justice Ginsburg's comment regarding population growth is typical of the so called 'Global Elite.' We must control the population, we must control growth (sustainable growth.) Why is it that those who desire to control things are usually the out of control. Being anti-abortion is not about control over a womans body but rather about life and liberty for the unborn, not to mention their pursuit of happiness.

William| 9.5.09 @ 11:04PM

Perhaps . . . just maybe . . . Hillary Clinton might be just beginning to think this through with a bit more care?

As D. Williams point out: 'Simply, you cannot just invent a gender-based right for "bits of undifferentiated flesh having no more significance than a hangnail."'

Hopefully thinking this through to a logical conclusion will lead her to a more humane and enlightened position.

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Richard Baker| 9.7.09 @ 12:49AM

Was this ditzy broad dropped on her head one too many times as a child?

Misanthrope| 9.7.09 @ 10:00AM

The problem with this is that a lot of you COMPLETELY missed the point. The argument is against the abortion of female fetus's in countries where females have a lesser standard of life, i.e the developing world, where they still have the whole "men are law" attitude (By the way, I'm a dude before anyone starts on the feminism). While it is backward in the west to give female fetus's rights over male fetus's (though this is probably happening due to male demonization) we should address the issues of sexual discrimination else where.

Row1| 9.7.09 @ 12:22PM

As of 2000 census data, we have sex-selection abortion documeted in U.S.:
Son-biased sex ratios in the 2000 United States Census.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Scientists U S A. 2008 Apr 15;105(15):5681-2. Epub 2008 Mar 31.
Almond D, Edlund L.

We document male-biased sex ratios among U.S.-born children of Chinese, Korean,
and Asian Indian parents in the 2000 U.S. Census. This male bias is particularly
evident for third children: If there was no previous son, sons outnumbered
daughters by 50%. By contrast, the sex ratios of eldest and younger children with
an older brother were both within the range of the biologically normal, as were
White offspring sex ratios (irrespective of the elder siblings' sex). We
interpret the found deviation in favor of sons to be evidence of sex selection,
most likely at the prenatal stage.

Patriot| 9.7.09 @ 4:27PM

YOU miss the point, Misanthrope (not surprising, given your name!). We should start with "Life" discrimination first. Sex discrimination doesn't mean squat if you're dead. Liberal moron.

Timothy O'Donnell| 9.7.09 @ 8:18PM

Bravo, Mr. Bandow. Shining a bright light on yet another contradiction to be found in the abortioneer's position is indeed helpful. No other action destroys more human lives than abortion. We ought not be surprised when certain nefarious characters bend abortion to further evil ends. Once society accepts say slavery as an institution, it is not long before additional evils develop within the structure of the moral evil: cruelty, rape, deprivation.

The human person is created Imago Dei - directly and inetionally - and every human person desrves to have their fundamental right to life preserved and protected from being unjustly taken.

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PolishKnight| 9.7.09 @ 10:25PM

"With the advent of fertilization techniques that no longer require an active male presence, men have been demoted to "drone bee" status. With the entitlement environment comes support for a 'no-father breadwinner' family. Again, males have been rendered useless."

Au contrare! As time has gone by, the chivalrous patronage state has had to increasingly tighten the reins to keep the "liberated" lasses from falling off. As divorce laws become liberalized and continued to favor women (or even became worse), fewer men married. Then "single motherhood" became all the rage with, of course, a named, legal father for the taxpayers and courts to keep the welfare state going.

We're now at the endgame as millions of women are having a hard time getting even a decent wageearning man to "oops" and trick into paying child-support. There's a run on sperm banks even as quality sperm is drying up (and logically, this makes sense. What kind of man uses such a facility knowing the kind of women that increasingly use them?)

Feminism is a product of chivalrous patronage: The notion that women can be "equal" via special handholding. Kind of like letting a girl beat you at chess. Conservatives spoiled women and now they're being punished for it.

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All abortions are ok. Lets throw these commie bastards out of office. Kill em all I say. (I mean fetus meat, not elected officials).

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Alph A Male| 9.8.09 @ 6:02PM

Who gives a whit what Hill thinks about anything? She is just an affirmative action Sec. St. with no experience and less ability. What the world wants to know is: What does Billy Boy think about this dimnunition of available partners?

Dennis Dilley| 9.8.09 @ 9:22PM

Clinton, like most liberals, has identified a problem, only one of many, with abortion. But she has stated it. Where liberals distinguish themselves from normal, thinking, humane people, however, is in the solution they propose to solve the problem. But the moral undertones of the problem is not in their line of thinking. Their moral compass only points to Equality.

So, don't look for Clinton or the baby killing mafia to suggest reducing or eliminating the infanticide of girls. No, they will arrive at a program that involves the killing of mass numbers of baby boys, so that they will achieve equality.

ab normal| 9.8.09 @ 11:20PM

The logic is easy:
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joyce| 9.9.09 @ 12:24PM

A friend and I were discussing abortion recently and she said that she was not sure she believed that abortion was the right path to take EXCEPT when the baby was "defective" then abortion is certainly okay. I asked what she would do with a child who appeared to be "normal" but at age two the child was diagnosed with autism. Would she approve of killing it? Her answerr floored me. She said she would have to think about that.

Nobama| 9.9.09 @ 2:17PM

Nice 'friend', Joyce. Liberals are scary because they don't have moral boundaries. Anything goes--and that's what scares me about ObamaCare. It's a mass killing scheme.

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