A new Public Policy Polling
survey -- the group's final poll before Tuesday's special
election in Massachusetts -- gives Scott Brown a 5-point lead
over Martha Coakley. While we've had a lot of polls that have
been all over the place depending on the assumptions the
pollsters make about the composition of the electorate, the new
PPP poll is helpful because we can compare it to a poll taken by
the same firm a week ago and detect a trend. In the
poll taken by PPP last week, Brown was up 1 point. At the
time, that was seen as a wake up call to Democrats that was
supposed to get them to start taking the race seriously. So in
the intervening week, Coakley and Democrats opened up new lines
of attack, tying Brown to outside conservative groups, attack him
for being in bed with Wall Street, and clumsily suggesting he
wants hospitals to deny care to
all rape victims. Despite this, Brown's momentum has
continued to grow -- he even now receiving 20 percent support
from people who voted for Obama. And while his negatives went up
during the week, his favorability rating held steady at 56
percent (vs. 57 percent a week ago) while Coakley's favorables
dropped from 50 percent to 44 percent after a series of
gaffes.
Yet through all of the growing enthusiasm behind Brown, I'm still
reminded of the New Hampshire primary in 2008. Barack Obama swept
into the state fresh from his victory in Iowa with all of the
momentum. He was drawing larger and more energetic crowds. And
polls showed that he had erased Hillary Clinton's lead in the
state and was poised for a comfortable win -- maybe even in the
double digits. I vividly remember showing up at the gym at
Southern New Hampshire University outside of Manchester, where
Clinton's election
night event was being held, and it had the feel of a funeral
because even her supporters expected her to lose. And yet Clinton
pulled off the victory. In the end, it turned out that Obama had
too much of a gap to make up in New Hampshire. The Clinton
machine was really good at turning out the vote. And the polls
hadn't reflected the late-breaking news of Clinton's tear filled
episode at a diner the day before the primary, which helped boost
her numbers among women.
Brown isn't as well-positioned in the polls as Obama was in New
Hampshire going into primary day, and most pollsters view the
Massachusetts Senate race as a toss up. But the momentum for
Brown, the enthusiasm of his supporters, the collapse of Coakley,
have all contributed to the perception that this is now Brown's
race (he's up to 63.9% on Intrade).Yet we haven't seen any
polls that have reflected President Obama's visit yesterday, and
just like Clinton, Coakley will have the machine behind her
(actually, she'll have Clinton's machine). So, Brown still may
very well win the race, it honestly could go either way. But
however inept Coakley is as a candidate, however much energy
Brown's campaign seems to have, I keep reminding myself that as a
Republican running in Massachusetts, he needs everything to break
right, and I keep thinking back to New Hampshire.
UPDATE: A lot of commenters are noting the many differences
between the two races, and none of that escaped me when I wrote
this post. But I was making a much narrower argument than what
seemed to come across. My point isn't that because Clinton beat
Obama in New Hampshire in a Democratic primary two years ago, it
means that Coakley will beat Brown in a Massachusetts special
Senate election tomorrow. All I'm saying is that in New
Hampshire, pollsters and those of us on the ground saw grassroots
energy and enthusiasm catapulting Obama to victory, but in the
end it turned out that Clinton pulled it off, in no small part
due to a powerful established political machine. Over the past
week, I've posted a number of polls -- as well as anecdotal
evidence -- showing the race moving in Brown's direction, but
I've also tried to balance this with what I think is a health
skepticism, especially given that we're talking about such a
heavily Democratic state.
Great analysis...I am optimistic but apprehensive. I don't trust
the absentee ballot counting system with the reputation Dems have
in this state.
Jana| 1.18.10 @ 11:06AM
I'm curious how you would take into account the fact that this is
a special election, not a primary. Doesn't that change the
dynamic a bit?
Franklin| 1.18.10 @ 11:14PM
Yes, it means it's more serious. I can't get too excited about
Scott's chances. I'm from Minnesota. I can't stand to see another
stolen election like Franken (stein).
Dj| 1.18.10 @ 11:46AM
We must not forget the weather. I think it will be a factor. I
think this will be close, in Brown's favor mind you, but enough
to where Marcia, Marcia, Marcia, will cry a river and take this
into litigation like the Franken debacle. Either way the health
care passes, albeit a Pyrrhic victory for Dems as they too will
have dirty hands in order to do it. It literally will take a
storming of Washington by people to stop this, are we wiling to
do that? March on Washington? It is a win win situation either
way for patriots. Dems pass healthcare at the threat of losing
their jobs and the party, which they pretty much know, and they
know they are committing suicide so they could care less as they
will retire in droves this year. Republicans will pick up enough
seats to keep Democrats at bay till 2012. Obama loses in 2012
either way this goes. So if Brown loses...we still win.
AM| 1.18.10 @ 1:29PM
Speaking of Hillary voters.....we haven't forgotten 5/31/2008 and
the democratic party's theft of 700,000 votes.
Go, Scott Brown!
Bill| 1.18.10 @ 1:31PM
Here's to your poll numbers! Let me give you a number...1100
showed up to see the One! 1,100. What happened to the overflow
crowds???? You get more people showing up for the Philly Wings
Bowl then the One got in the entire state of Mass on Sunday.
Marvis| 1.18.10 @ 1:32PM
Obama's "record breaking" rally crowds were a mirage. I vividly
recall standing in the parking lot at Nashua High school watching
the out of state buses unload.
Nostradamus| 1.18.10 @ 1:39PM
I get the sense that many sensible people in Mass that voted for
Obama (yes, there ARE sensible democrats - they exist) are
disappointed with Obama's 1st year results and will vote for
Brown as a "check" to him. And I can't help but noticing how
Coakley looks like a Moonbat while Brown actually looks
"Kennedyesque." I think that in politics, looks count for at
least 5% of the vote. (Yes, there ARE idiots like that - they
also exist, and not just in Mass.).
Discerner| 1.18.10 @ 1:43PM
It's simple logic. Brown has the momentum, Coakley the opposite.
Ken Royall| 1.18.10 @ 1:54PM
I don't see the connection. We are in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
political environment now than we were then.
Terry Gain | 1.18.10 @ 1:57PM
" and clumsily suggesting he wants hospitals to deny care to all
rape victims. "
--------------------------------------------------------------
Clumsy? You must take us for idiots. It was an out and out lie,
and a vicious one at that, you stupid dishonest liberal moron.
SoCon| 1.18.10 @ 3:17PM
Hahaha! Good one. Klein's pretty squishy, I have to admit.
Charles| 1.18.10 @ 1:57PM
Great point. One key difference may be the people widely
respected Hillary Clinton's determination, hard work and grit.
Clinton had a lot of passionate support. And many Democrats may
have felt bad that her dream would end so soon, especially given
everything she put up with re: Bill. I am not sure these factors
are present for Coakley. But the point is correct, that there is
still a fairly decent chance of a Coakley win tomorrow.
I don't understand the reasoning for this article's angle...
The apples and oranges are so far apart that it defies
comprehension...
The two biggest lacks of insight?
1) A Republican was president during the NH primary, and Clinton
was seen as more to the right than the opponent. In Coakley's
case, she's seen as a robot FOR the president and NOT in a
primary election to oust the current president...
2) You're talking about the SAME party as opposed to Coakley's
case, which is a fight borne out of DIFFERENT parties...That
means 100% of the electorate gets to decide and not simply the
ones who want to pick a certain person from ONE party (as was in
NH)...
This article is about as intriguing and thought-provoking as
saying "The Lakers might not beat the Clippers tomorrow because
the Washington Generals almost beat the Globetrotters 4 years
ago...
Weak argument for why everything has to break right for a
Republican to win. I agree with the premise that in a deep blue
state a Republican needs some luck, but using the 2008 Democratic
Presidential primary in New Hampshire as an example is awful. I
don't understand how this special election reminds you of NH 2008
when you're in a special election in MA in 2010. If this is the
best optimism you got, Brown will win.
alwyr| 1.18.10 @ 2:24PM
This 'analysis' is so sophomoric (to say nothing about being
desperate) it's literally not worth either the paper its printed
on, or the bandwidth being used to disseminate it.
However, if there are those who will clutch to this pathetic
straw as a means of deluding themselves that somehow there exists
a 'reality' which conflicts with the reality presented by the
outside world......well, just go right ahead.
Mike| 1.18.10 @ 2:28PM
It all boils down to the cheating.
anon| 1.18.10 @ 2:32PM
How skull shatteringly innocent are you?
Do you not realize that is the Obama himself who is driving
Brown's surge? I mean, how hard is it to see the $%$# obvious in
front of your face?
Ken Royall| 1.18.10 @ 2:49PM
Good points made here. A primary between 2 Dem rivals that were
both popular running against Bush (who was unpopular) is not
relevant to this race. Plus Hillary was basically liked by most
Democrats and Independents at the time. Coakley is the worst
candidate at a time when Obama's agenda is tanking. Brown is
likable and is obviously not a hard-right candidate.
Cori| 1.18.10 @ 2:50PM
I'm seeing it as more of a Corzine/Christie race. I know there
are differences, like Christie saw his lead dwindle. Dems are
bringing in the big guns just like in NJ and it doesn't seem to
be helping. They can't fix the public mood and running a bad
canidate.
Susan J| 1.18.10 @ 2:55PM
The comparison you make betweeen Hillary/Obama in New Hampshire
and this race leaves out the gigantic idealogical differences
between Brown and Coakley. Hillary and Obama were both on the
same liberal Democrat page with basically unremarkable
differences in ideas, the only striking difference between the
two being style of delivery. Brown and Coakley are as different
as night and day in every political aspect with completely
separate ideologies. To overlook this fundamental difference
renders your comparative analysis of this race meaningless.
Jane| 1.18.10 @ 3:08PM
I seem to recall there were some special circumstances
surrounding the New Hampshire primary. I think for a primary you
can declare yourself a resident and register on the same day. I
think Hillary bussed a lot of people in from out of state. I
don't think you can do that in Mass, but maybe they'll do it
anyway.
SoCon| 1.18.10 @ 3:21PM
"...but maybe they'll do it anyway." Great line. Amoral democrats
will do ANYTHING to win.
I share the apprehension voiced in this article. I consider
myself a realist, not a pessimist, but know any time there is a
close race in a state more or less controlled by a Democratic
Party machine; e.g., Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, the
Democratic Party candidate invariably wins. And no, it isn't
because the Democrats can generate miraculous, last-minute
turnout at the polls. It's because they cheat, plain and simple.
I don't think the voting public is truly aware of the kind and
caliber of the people running the Democratic Party at higher
state and national levels. The traditional Democratic Party--the
party of my lifelong New Dealer grandfather, the party of Harry
Truman and JFK, is gone. The Democratic Party has been suborned
by its most radical, unscrupulous and ruthless elements.
SoCon| 1.18.10 @ 3:23PM
ACORN and SEIU thugs are the true faces of the democrat party. We
know who they are.
New Yorker| 1.18.10 @ 3:42PM
Here's one New Yorker cyber-voting for Scott Brown
tomorrow!
Go Scott!
This article stands true, please don't take anything for
granted.
Get out and vote Massachesetts!
Vote Scott Brown
Let tone-deaf Washington hear you speak loud and clear!
Possum Dearie| 1.18.10 @ 4:05PM
Massachusetts already has Romneycare. They're voting against that
and against the incumbent party tomorrow. It doesn't hurt that
Chokely stinks on ice and Brown is handsome and charismatic.
tazmaz| 1.18.10 @ 10:42AM
Great analysis...I am optimistic but apprehensive. I don't trust the absentee ballot counting system with the reputation Dems have in this state.
Jana| 1.18.10 @ 11:06AM
I'm curious how you would take into account the fact that this is a special election, not a primary. Doesn't that change the dynamic a bit?
Franklin| 1.18.10 @ 11:14PM
Yes, it means it's more serious. I can't get too excited about Scott's chances. I'm from Minnesota. I can't stand to see another stolen election like Franken (stein).
Dj| 1.18.10 @ 11:46AM
We must not forget the weather. I think it will be a factor. I think this will be close, in Brown's favor mind you, but enough to where Marcia, Marcia, Marcia, will cry a river and take this into litigation like the Franken debacle. Either way the health care passes, albeit a Pyrrhic victory for Dems as they too will have dirty hands in order to do it. It literally will take a storming of Washington by people to stop this, are we wiling to do that? March on Washington? It is a win win situation either way for patriots. Dems pass healthcare at the threat of losing their jobs and the party, which they pretty much know, and they know they are committing suicide so they could care less as they will retire in droves this year. Republicans will pick up enough seats to keep Democrats at bay till 2012. Obama loses in 2012 either way this goes. So if Brown loses...we still win.
AM| 1.18.10 @ 1:29PM
Speaking of Hillary voters.....we haven't forgotten 5/31/2008 and the democratic party's theft of 700,000 votes.
Go, Scott Brown!
Bill| 1.18.10 @ 1:31PM
Here's to your poll numbers! Let me give you a number...1100 showed up to see the One! 1,100. What happened to the overflow crowds???? You get more people showing up for the Philly Wings Bowl then the One got in the entire state of Mass on Sunday.
Marvis| 1.18.10 @ 1:32PM
Obama's "record breaking" rally crowds were a mirage. I vividly recall standing in the parking lot at Nashua High school watching the out of state buses unload.
Nostradamus| 1.18.10 @ 1:39PM
I get the sense that many sensible people in Mass that voted for Obama (yes, there ARE sensible democrats - they exist) are disappointed with Obama's 1st year results and will vote for Brown as a "check" to him. And I can't help but noticing how Coakley looks like a Moonbat while Brown actually looks "Kennedyesque." I think that in politics, looks count for at least 5% of the vote. (Yes, there ARE idiots like that - they also exist, and not just in Mass.).
Discerner| 1.18.10 @ 1:43PM
It's simple logic. Brown has the momentum, Coakley the opposite.
Ken Royall| 1.18.10 @ 1:54PM
I don't see the connection. We are in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT political environment now than we were then.
Terry Gain | 1.18.10 @ 1:57PM
" and clumsily suggesting he wants hospitals to deny care to all rape victims. "
--------------------------------------------------------------
Clumsy? You must take us for idiots. It was an out and out lie, and a vicious one at that, you stupid dishonest liberal moron.
SoCon| 1.18.10 @ 3:17PM
Hahaha! Good one. Klein's pretty squishy, I have to admit.
Charles| 1.18.10 @ 1:57PM
Great point. One key difference may be the people widely respected Hillary Clinton's determination, hard work and grit. Clinton had a lot of passionate support. And many Democrats may have felt bad that her dream would end so soon, especially given everything she put up with re: Bill. I am not sure these factors are present for Coakley. But the point is correct, that there is still a fairly decent chance of a Coakley win tomorrow.
cnredd| 1.18.10 @ 2:01PM
I don't understand the reasoning for this article's angle...
The apples and oranges are so far apart that it defies comprehension...
The two biggest lacks of insight?
1) A Republican was president during the NH primary, and Clinton was seen as more to the right than the opponent. In Coakley's case, she's seen as a robot FOR the president and NOT in a primary election to oust the current president...
2) You're talking about the SAME party as opposed to Coakley's case, which is a fight borne out of DIFFERENT parties...That means 100% of the electorate gets to decide and not simply the ones who want to pick a certain person from ONE party (as was in NH)...
This article is about as intriguing and thought-provoking as saying "The Lakers might not beat the Clippers tomorrow because the Washington Generals almost beat the Globetrotters 4 years ago...
cnredd
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Mel Z| 1.18.10 @ 2:22PM
Weak argument for why everything has to break right for a Republican to win. I agree with the premise that in a deep blue state a Republican needs some luck, but using the 2008 Democratic Presidential primary in New Hampshire as an example is awful. I don't understand how this special election reminds you of NH 2008 when you're in a special election in MA in 2010. If this is the best optimism you got, Brown will win.
alwyr| 1.18.10 @ 2:24PM
This 'analysis' is so sophomoric (to say nothing about being desperate) it's literally not worth either the paper its printed on, or the bandwidth being used to disseminate it.
However, if there are those who will clutch to this pathetic straw as a means of deluding themselves that somehow there exists a 'reality' which conflicts with the reality presented by the outside world......well, just go right ahead.
Mike| 1.18.10 @ 2:28PM
It all boils down to the cheating.
anon| 1.18.10 @ 2:32PM
How skull shatteringly innocent are you?
Do you not realize that is the Obama himself who is driving Brown's surge? I mean, how hard is it to see the $%$# obvious in front of your face?
Ken Royall| 1.18.10 @ 2:49PM
Good points made here. A primary between 2 Dem rivals that were both popular running against Bush (who was unpopular) is not relevant to this race. Plus Hillary was basically liked by most Democrats and Independents at the time. Coakley is the worst candidate at a time when Obama's agenda is tanking. Brown is likable and is obviously not a hard-right candidate.
Cori| 1.18.10 @ 2:50PM
I'm seeing it as more of a Corzine/Christie race. I know there are differences, like Christie saw his lead dwindle. Dems are bringing in the big guns just like in NJ and it doesn't seem to be helping. They can't fix the public mood and running a bad canidate.
Susan J| 1.18.10 @ 2:55PM
The comparison you make betweeen Hillary/Obama in New Hampshire and this race leaves out the gigantic idealogical differences between Brown and Coakley. Hillary and Obama were both on the same liberal Democrat page with basically unremarkable differences in ideas, the only striking difference between the two being style of delivery. Brown and Coakley are as different as night and day in every political aspect with completely separate ideologies. To overlook this fundamental difference renders your comparative analysis of this race meaningless.
Jane| 1.18.10 @ 3:08PM
I seem to recall there were some special circumstances surrounding the New Hampshire primary. I think for a primary you can declare yourself a resident and register on the same day. I think Hillary bussed a lot of people in from out of state. I don't think you can do that in Mass, but maybe they'll do it anyway.
SoCon| 1.18.10 @ 3:21PM
"...but maybe they'll do it anyway." Great line. Amoral democrats will do ANYTHING to win.
Troy Riser| 1.18.10 @ 3:20PM
I share the apprehension voiced in this article. I consider myself a realist, not a pessimist, but know any time there is a close race in a state more or less controlled by a Democratic Party machine; e.g., Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, the Democratic Party candidate invariably wins. And no, it isn't because the Democrats can generate miraculous, last-minute turnout at the polls. It's because they cheat, plain and simple.
I don't think the voting public is truly aware of the kind and caliber of the people running the Democratic Party at higher state and national levels. The traditional Democratic Party--the party of my lifelong New Dealer grandfather, the party of Harry Truman and JFK, is gone. The Democratic Party has been suborned by its most radical, unscrupulous and ruthless elements.
SoCon| 1.18.10 @ 3:23PM
ACORN and SEIU thugs are the true faces of the democrat party. We know who they are.
New Yorker| 1.18.10 @ 3:42PM
Here's one New Yorker cyber-voting for Scott Brown tomorrow!
Go Scott!
This article stands true, please don't take anything for granted.
Get out and vote Massachesetts!
Vote Scott Brown
Let tone-deaf Washington hear you speak loud and clear!
Possum Dearie| 1.18.10 @ 4:05PM
Massachusetts already has Romneycare. They're voting against that and against the incumbent party tomorrow. It doesn't hurt that Chokely stinks on ice and Brown is handsome and charismatic.