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The Problem With Obama’s Polls

By R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. on 9.13.12 @ 6:09AM

Do not let them fool you. Previous Democrats led by more and still lost.

WASHINGTON — Nuts. The Democratic National Convention is over. Watching Bill Clinton, Jean-François Kerry, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and all the other preposterosities — not least being the widely under-depreciated Sandra Fluke — I fell under a spell. I thought the convention would go on forever. There would be no need for horror movies, action movies, X-Treme sports, cockfights, or soap operas. I could enjoy them all in the comfort of my own home. All provided by the Democratic National Committee, safely watched over by the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department and probably select units of the North Carolina National Guard. Yet the convention ended, and now comes the surprise. President Obama actually received a bump in the polls, a modest but a bump.

CNN was up 6 points. Gallup was up 5 points. ABC News/Washington Post was up 1, and so it went until I came across something called SurveyUSA/Civitas. That poll had Mitt Romney up by 10 points, but I do not know who they were polling or why? Possibly they were pulling our leg.

Remember, these polls came after the Democrats in convention assembled voted against mentioning God in their sacred document. Oh, sure, on the third voice vote the mayor of Los Angeles, standing rather unwillingly at the podium, gave the vote to God, but we all heard the vote. God lost. And there was the bloody business about Jerusalem. The Democrats want Israel’s capital elsewhere. Where I wonder. Finally, there was the Democrats’ contrived controversy about a procedure that has been uncontroversial among Americans since the 1960s, birth control! Do the Democrats really believe that Romney is going to deny them their birth control devices, even colored condoms? Those devices are the Republicans’ one foolproof way to ensure suppression of the Democratic vote. It is even more effective than returning illegal aliens to their home country.

Frankly, the Democrats who came to Charlotte were about the most unsightly mob observable in these United States in years. Any breadline in the 1930s would have appeared more well dressed, and certainly its members would be more representative of mainstream America. Only an occasional group of Occupiers could have outdone the Charlotte Democrats in sartorial splendor, and most of them are certifiably deranged.

Yet in the end the President got his bump, and it came a day or so after the Friday economic news came, all of it highly unfavorable to him: job creation, down from July; Americans seeking jobs, down from July, the percentage of Americans working or seeking work, down to a 30-year low. As for foreign policy, while Mr. Obama was wowing the gullible last week with his listless poetry the Chinese and the Russians were snubbing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on her Syrian initiative.

Do not let these polls fool you. In 1980 similar polls showed Jimmy Carter leading the Old Cowboy almost to the very end. Carter was ahead of Governor Ronald Reagan by 4 points in late September, by 8 points in October, and the Gallup polls had him ahead of Reagan by 6 points in last days of the election. Reagan won by 9 points, sweeping 44 states. In 1988 Governor Dukakis at one point led Vice President George H. W. Bush by 17 points. He lost by almost 8 points.

How to explain it I cannot say with certainty. Some evidence suggests that the pollsters poll a higher percentage of Democrats than Republicans. Moreover, a recent poll from the Pew Research Center is suggestive. The electorate is growing impatient with pollsters calling them for their views on everything from deodorants to odors. According to Pew, “the response rate of a typical telephone [political] survey was 36% in 1997 and is just 9% today.” My suspicion is that political polling has not been reliable for years. Increasingly those who sit down with the pollster are politically committed respondents.

So here is yet more evidence of the Taranto Principle. Just as the media give Democrats the impression they are in the majority so do the great polling organizations. So keep it up, Mr. President: no to God, no to Jerusalem, and whatever message you want to send out about birth control. Your foreign policy is a masterpiece, especially in the Arab world. Your economy, well it is still Bush’s economy.

About the Author

R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.

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Aristocat| 9.13.12 @ 6:17AM

Romney in a landslide.
Republicans keep the House & take the Senate.

TLP| 9.13.12 @ 7:41AM

I agree.

I still believe that the Rank and File Private Sector Union Guys are gonna come out BIG for Romney. They see their Leadership LIVING LARGE while their Homes go Underwater. They see their Leadership Wining and Dining at the White House. They see the melted butter from their Lobster and King Crab, dripping from their Fat Mouths, while they sit down for Hot Dogs and Mac and Cheese, AGAIN.

Hundreds of Thousands of Union Men and Women out of work BECAUSE OF OBAMA.

His Illegal Drilling Moratorium in the Gulf, in Alaska, and Up and Down the East and West Coastlines. The REFUSAL to allow the XL Pipeline, despite his own State Department signing off on it, as well as his own EPA. (So why did he do it?)

He has Shut Down numerous Coal Mines. He has Shut Down numerous Coal-fired Power Plants.

We have Refineries that are not being Built, nor are they being Repaired.

Reagan got The Union Vote, and seeing as everything that's going on here, and around the world, is a Jimmy Carter Dejavu all over again - Gas Prices, Inflation, (That's right - Inflation - as in Everything Costs More) Unemployment Rates, Foreclosures, Bankruptcies, Homelessness, Embassies being Sacked, American Diplomats being Killed my Muslims, a Depleted Military with No Discernable Mission, No Morale, and No Love for this Weak Commander in Chief?

Did I mention the School Strike in Chicago, and is CHICAGO still a Dog Whistle Code Word for N*gg*r?

Maxwell| 9.13.12 @ 8:25AM

Good morning TLP, please include in your list Barry wants to eliminate the AR15 rifle and impose more gun restrictions. Jersey is bad enough with our gun laws (Chris Christie is anti gun & CCW) but Barry would go even further.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 10:44AM

The Unions' leadership, like Trumka, are politicians who play golf at Burning Tree with the Dems, and all have big salaries and expense accounts. The regular workers, union members, are more patriotic and conservative, and do not always follow the endorsements of the union leaders. They voted for Reagan, Bush in 88, and GWB, and will vote for Romney because of the economy and weak leadership on foreign policy.

Jack in Wi| 9.13.12 @ 7:50AM

If it was just the economy Romney would probably win big. The difference between now and 1980 is demographics, among many other things. In 1980 this country was a far different place ethnically and morally. There is also the question of the candidates. Reagan was a real conservative with an extremely likeable way about himself. Romney is not very likeable, and not a conservative. He is member of the Bush, Cheney, Dole, gingrich gang that has led the country and party over the cliff in the last 2 decades.

Now he has embraced a pro-war, agenda pushed by his Neoconservative foreign policy team. they have led this country into disastr after disaster since Bush gave them an almost free hand on foreign policy 11 years ago. the list of their failures is long from Iraq, Afganitsan, nation building, new world wide commitments, the new democracy in the Middle East which was supposed, to guarentee Isreal's perpetual dominence of it's neighbors, no matter how many crimes they committ.

Well the fact is Romney is in severe trouble. It is because he is an inarticulate ninecompoop and a lot of the public can see it. His whole campaign is tax cuts and bailouts for my pals. his foreign policy is a disaster of endless war for Israel and expand the wars against anyone who breaks wind aimed in our direction. .

Jack in Wi| 9.13.12 @ 8:01AM

Romney needs the votes of independents, young people, libertarians, paleo-conservatives, and dissafected pro-life Palin people. He offers us nothing but more of the same dirty dish water that the Republicans have been peddling for the last 24 years. If he does not reach out and convince us he will at least try to do something different a lot of us are not going to bother to vote. I have predicted for months athat Obama will run as the peace candidate gain. Well he is and Romney is giving a great immitation of a warmongering incompetent. Romney should promise to pull out of Afganistan now and a least try to put out sone kind of new thinking on foreign policy. He won'td o that with the lunatics he has on his foreign policy team. He has promised to audit the Fed. But has downplayed it now. Well it is hugely popular and should be pushed. Will he change his campaign to at least try to get some of the votes he needs? Nah! He thinks he can bluff his way through on the economy alone and because he claims to be a better manager then Obama. We have 2 terrible candidates. Pray for the USA. We need it.

scotchieguy| 9.13.12 @ 9:04AM

All of that may be true, and he is still a million times better than the current prez. Why someone would sit at home during this election is the biggest mystery of all. The choice could not be clearer.

MK48| 9.13.12 @ 10:21AM

JACK...............Iam praying for YOU to get your head out of your ass.

Palrak| 9.13.12 @ 1:20PM

Thank you for saying what I was about to. Jack is in an alternate universe. (At the bottom of the box I'm typing in, it says "don't feed the trolls!)

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 1:57PM

Fortunately, I don't even think guys like Jack are a blip in the polls.

mike 3/505| 9.13.12 @ 4:28PM

MK48,

Speaking as an Army guy, the only thing likely to change the minds of Jack and his ilk, is your namesake...or equivalent ordinance.

Regards,

Mike

MK48| 9.13.12 @ 8:04PM

Mike............how about a fly over..MK48 is shot from a Nuke Sub.

Us squids hide under the cover of 1000 ft. of ocean.

Jay Stevens| 9.16.12 @ 3:37AM

Ordnance, mike, ORDNANCE.

Controse| 9.13.12 @ 4:08PM

Put me down for praying "Spectator" finds a way to print your posts in smaller and smaller type until they disappear altogether. Just your online id, a lot of honest to goodness white space and Reply To This. What an advance for enlightened discourse that would be.

Jade12| 9.14.12 @ 11:56AM

We hear that same story every election cycle. We have to pander to the independents.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:46PM

Let me point out that there is only one other time in that last 100 years that the economy was worse when he started than when it's time for re-election - that was FDR and the Great Depression.

Well, it's Obama and the Great Recession (altho it might be the Great Mini-Depression...

The men who have lost re-election lost because they HAD a good economy and it got worse under them. That is not the case for Obama - and that is why he will win.

Romney does not have a compelling argument with the economy, can't sell it and is terrible at campaigning and now has shown he's a neophyte in foreign policy and shows no ability to be Commander-in-Chief... but we should trust him? Not happening...

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 2:01PM

Purp, are you even paying attention?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:29PM

Do you ever THINK?

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:31PM

If he didn't think, he'd be you.

JP| 9.13.12 @ 2:25PM

The Bush Recession ended 4 months into Obama's administration. He had nothing to do with its end. Since then (June 2009) more people have lost jobs than obtained them; the average American's living standards have dropped 5%; gas prices went from $1.85 to $4.00; and in just 40 months Obama has accumulated $5 trillion of new debt.

I'm not sure how people (other than federal workers) can say the economy improved since Jan 2009.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:31PM

You must be joking ... but I'm not going to explain it to you... you wouldn't believe it anyway. Luckily your vote won't matter.

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 5:17PM

Yesterday, Burp blamed the late Ambassador Stevens for his own death, the death of 3 other Americans, and the attack on the Libyan consulate because they didn't apologize to a Moslem mob (hit squad?) for the American right to free-speech.
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Purp| 9.12.12 @ 4:16PM

"Correct - the Embassy in Cairo released that message BEFORE there was any violence. Obama knew nothing about it - but they were worried for their lives and tried to calm things down.

"Smart, since they didn't get burned down like what happened in Libya."
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You are a disgusting scumbag, Burp.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:19PM

No, Nick - you did ... by conflating the 2 incidents in your own mind.
One was an Embassy, one was a consulate. You DO know the difference, do you not? Quick go find out ... and like, RomBot - shut up until you know something.

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:11PM

Everything you say is true. Romney wants to be elected on platitudes because he knows that any solutions for our economic mess are going to be very painful and disruptive. He surely knows the USA must deleverage. Deleveraging is a very rough business. This is why Romney will talk platitudes and lose to Mr Bailout Forever.

Oldefarte| 9.13.12 @ 9:18PM

It is said that BLESSED ARE THE MEEK FOR THEY SHALT INHERIT THE EARTH! Well the old BLACK JESUS sure done been doing some INHERITING hasn't he??????

Occam's Tool| 9.13.12 @ 6:32PM

Israel, you illiterate Jihadist Catamite!

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:52PM

Right Wing FantasyLand I see is on full display...

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:32PM

Burpie, your meds only work when taken correctly.

AmericanCynic| 9.13.12 @ 2:44PM

Republicans will keep the House, but lose seats. The Senate and the White House will remain sane. ;)

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:29PM

Thank Goodness ... VoucherCare will die.

Oldefarte| 9.13.12 @ 9:20PM

Wouldn't count on it after 1/20/13, when the governmental pink slips start flying!!!!!!

Appleby| 9.13.12 @ 7:02AM

And I hope the cops and the military are on standby on Election Day.

Mike G| 9.13.12 @ 11:28AM

Obama may put the military on standby, just in case the election doesn't go his way. Unfortunately for him, I don't think the military is going to support his executive order on martial law.

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:16PM

He will only do Martial Law if Iran attacks the USA during a war. Unfortunately, this really could happen. Iran has hundreds of sleeper terrorists inside the US, and some have doomsday biological weapons. They may also have deliverable nukes. An Iran-Israel war will be a very messy business, and the USA will be drawn in whether we like it or not.

chuck| 9.13.12 @ 8:27PM

A WMD attack on the US traceable to Iran would be the end of Iran. Public outrage would force a nuclear attack.

Even the idiot Mullahs must know this.

spike59| 9.14.12 @ 5:55AM

with ObaMao in the WH????

don't count on it

MK48| 9.13.12 @ 3:07PM

What do you care applebag you don't live here.

By the way how's the food at the Jane Fonda Reitement Home.

chuck| 9.13.12 @ 7:08AM

Romney wins 40-45 states, everything but the left coast, Illinois, and half of New England states.

Maxwell| 9.13.12 @ 8:21AM

chuck, with all due respect, you have to include New Jersey in your list too.

chuck| 9.13.12 @ 8:24PM

New Jersey, as in the state that elected a Republican governor?

Stranger things have happened.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:51PM

Romney has to win all the battleground States - all of them ... the President has to win only 1 or 2 .. and he's ahead in almost all of them ... he needs just 33 electoral votes now to pass 270 ... Florida + any other .. Ohio + any other .. Virginia + Colorado and any other ... etc., etc.

Romney has only 1 way to win and he's losing on all accounts, is desperate and it shows to all that pay attention.
He's drawing to an inside straight and the President is holding a Full House, Aces up. He's toast.
When there's talk of WAR, America rallies to their Presidents, and this, if nothing else, will keep the President in the White House.

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 2:02PM

Purp, stop with your leftwing spam. Remember when Romney wins by 7% on election day, and wins all the now-considered swing states, that you heard it hear first.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:26PM

I'll be here and we'll see, won't we.

Occam's Tool| 9.13.12 @ 6:33PM

Purp: I look forward to watching you cry for the next 4 years.

Oldefarte| 9.13.12 @ 9:25PM

Nah OT, the water flows will exit the other end no doubt!!!!!

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:20PM

Since I live in the premier swing state of VA, I will know the truth when I see the length and demographic composition of the line at the polling place on election day. In 2008, the line at 7 AM was the longest I had ever seen it, and 2/3 of the people waiting were Black (in a largely Hispanic and White neighborhood no less). When I saw that, I knew Obama had won.

chuck| 9.13.12 @ 8:29PM

Romney +12 with independent voters

That's the only poll you need to know.

Obama is dunfer.

Oldefarte| 9.13.12 @ 9:23PM

You've been reading your Dick&Jane; Reader again haven't you? Hint hint....the BLACK JESUS' crystal ball full of BS go boom boom boom on 11/6/12!!!!!!!!!!

RichTex| 9.13.12 @ 2:57PM

I predicted several weeks ago that Romney would win 356 electoral votes, with Obama getting 182. I stand by that prediction.

Two things to remember about these polls. Most of them vastly overcount Democrats to the detriment of Republicans, but also much to the detriment of independents. One poll I saw had independents at just over 6% while polls of party affiliation show about 30% independents. And Romney has been winning independents by a substantial margin. The party affiliation poll also had Republicans at over 35% and Democrats at about 32%, but that same erroneous poll had Democrats at about 40%. Most pollsters seem to think it’s still 1974.

The other thing is the point Dick Morris has made. In his study of presidential elections going back decades, almost all of those polled as “undecided” actually end up voting for the challenger, by a minimum of about a 90-10 edge. So a poll which shows Romney and Obama tied at 45% each actually means Romney is ahead by the 10 point margin in the SurveyUSA poll Tyrell cites.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:27PM

Dream a little dream ...

Yeah, and Dick Morris said Hillary would win it all, she was so formidable in 2008 ... he's always sooooo correct.

He's selling you his books and you fall for it.

Oldefarte| 9.13.12 @ 9:30PM

You haven't read too many of his books have you? If it hadn't been for the NBPP's voter assistance maneuvers and Acorn's multiple listings of GEORGE WASHINGTONS in favor of the BLACK JESUS, she would have been POTUS!!!!

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:23PM

The undecided largely went for Bush in 2004, except for the very latest deciders. Morris is often wrong.

Jade12| 9.14.12 @ 12:05PM

When I asked a pollster what group was conducting the polling they hung up on me.

Gary B| 9.13.12 @ 7:28AM

" Any breadline in the 1930s would have appeared more well dressed..."

I suspect nearly all of the delegates were teachers and union thugs. As you said, the whole thing was free advertising for Romney. I'll bet the speakers and the leadership all took showers before jumping back on their jets and carbon burning their way home. Too much rubbing of shoulders with the people they pretend to love.

Von Mises Jr| 9.13.12 @ 7:46AM

Since they were forced to move the event indoors from a 70K stadium to 20K hall, there was a concentration of electors, MSM and core fringe groups. If there are any normal people left in the Democrat Party, they were no room for them in the convention center.
So we got a concentration of Islamist, Gay BLT's, NOW (you know I don't like weenies), Planned Abortion, and Kev Jennings NAMBLA. And don't forget BJ Clinton and the Barbary Pirate we call Mr. President.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:08PM

Aren't you Susie Sunshine?

Mimi | 9.13.12 @ 7:47AM

I have one SON...."The Democrat" who told his brother..."I watched it for 2 days and heard all the lies so I turned it off & voting Republican"
This is big....I KNOW !!

Gary B| 9.13.12 @ 8:51AM

Mimi, stories like this are happening all over America. No way to pick it up in polls. Too anecdotal, but real nonetheless. This, of course, drives turnout. The Democrat base is discouraged. That kills turnout. Fingers crossed...

MK48| 9.13.12 @ 10:25AM

Mimi....IT knows..... a 35M house was just purchased for IT in Hawaii.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:10PM

I wouldn't tell you who I'm really voting for either... you have 1 son ... but he has a brother? How'd you do that trick?

benny havens| 9.13.12 @ 7:49AM

Obama will take 10 out of the 57 states.

The Avenger| 9.13.12 @ 8:02AM

Lol.

Indy| 9.13.12 @ 8:02AM

The polls are a joke, all you have to do is look at the sampling and the questions asked. As an unaffiliated voter, I get polled and often roll my eyes when I hear the questions. The media spends more time reporting polls as "news" v. reporting real news stories.

Too bad, we don't have reporters asking important questions to get to the truth, those days are long gone.

Alan| 9.13.12 @ 2:43PM

Who still supports Barry?

1) Union thugs, ticks, and pawns;

2) Black racists;

3) Wealthy campaign contributors who get big rebates in terms of federal grants, contracts, loans, and special favors;

4) Naïve youth;

5) Communists, Marxists, Islamofascists, and anyone else who hates America or capitalism;

6) Guilty white liberals;

7) Academics who benefit from increased federal support for student loans;

8) The entitled class;

9) Legal Hispanic voters who want amnesty for their kin and friends who are here (or would come here) illegally;

10) Members of Mexican drug cartels who benefit from having a large population of illegal immigrants inside the USA;

11) People who work in professions or live in communities where intolerance and discrimination by Democrats is overwhelming, severe, and totalitarian;

12) Government workers who lack integrity;

13) Some homosexual activists.

Before someone says, "What about Hollywood celebrities," I believe they are covered by some combination of categories 3, 5, 6, 8, 11, or 13.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:25PM

Uh, the majority ... thank you.

Alan| 9.13.12 @ 3:29PM

Your majority asshole.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:20PM

Nevertheless, the winning combo for the election. Romney is done, stick a fork in him... one and done.

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:34PM

The morons mentioned are not the winning combo - remember Wisconsin, tool? All lined up against Walker, and he beat the crap out of them.

One and done? That would be Obambi...

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:44PM

Your #4 is going to be way way down since Obummer has done nothing for the youth, except to guarantee permanent unemployment. But all the other constituencies remain intact - especially the Black vote and the Food Stamp/Disability vote. Obama has doubled the SNAP rolls and quadrupled the Disability rolls.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 8:19AM

First, let me say that comparing Mitt the Twit with Ronald Reagan is an insult to the memory of Reagan. Mitt Romney is NO Ronald Reagan.

This article reads like a last gasp desperation to save a dying candidate. The right-wing doesn't really want Romney- they just don't want Obama. But it's clear his economic message falls flat and now it's crystal clear Romney is NOT ready to be Commander-in-Chief. Forget the 3AM call, I wouldn't be comfortable him answering the phone at McDonalds!

What an interesting article, one day after Mitt Romney clearly showed his amateur status regarding International Affairs and Foreign Policy. He really stepped in it yesterday, looking tentative, crass and small minded, speaking out before we had all the facts or that the incident was even over. No one has any idea what was happening clandestinely, nor would any government official tell us.

But there's Mitt the Twit, trying to score points but in doing so, may have dealt his candidacy a death blow with Independents.

Now as far as polls - well, Barack Obama has a 7 point advantage in the 5 day running Gallup Poll, over 50% (Just about where you want to be to win at this point in the campaign). Even RealClearPolitics, hardly an Obama bastion, has the President just shy of 50% in their average of polls.
This is NOT 1980, Romney is NOT Ronald Reagan and Obama is successful, and a far stronger, steadier and resolute Commander-in-Chief than Jimmy Carter.

Joellen| 9.13.12 @ 8:45AM

Purp, under Obama's reign on September 11 2012 we have FOUR UNITED STATES CITIZENS BRUTALLY MURDERED and you focus on Romney. You clearly are a mole and NO ONE is fooled by you.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 9:12AM

So what?

Truth to Power| 9.13.12 @ 9:46AM

I never thought I would agree with perp but with regard to what perp says, so what?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 10:08AM

I learned it from DICK Cheney ...

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 2:04PM

So, you don't deny you're a mole. Beat it, creep.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:25PM

No.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 8:49AM

ObamaboyPurpie/canuck
The daily drivel from the Village Idiot in support of O.
You sound more desperate than usual. It is over. O will lose. He is weak, incomopetent, and does ot care for the security of the USA.
You lefties are so stupid you showed Russian ships at your convention film to supposedly honor the US military. Maybe you are not so stupid, you do not care whether they are Russian or American ships.
Barack Hussein Carter will be joining Jimmy Carter after November in the contest for worst US president.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 9:50AM

You really should listen to your Official leaders - not Rush Limpbaugh.

Your boy, Mitty, is having trouble selling his VoucherCare, 5 Trillion dollar millionaire's tax cuts, slashing education and infrastructure investments and other non-starter plans.

Now, he adds appalling inexperience in foreign policy. "Russia is a our #1 Geopolitical Foe", he stepped in it criticizing Obama to secure the release of the Chinese dissident (who was released a few days later) and now he steps in it again and disgustingly while Americans were being killed overseas. He might as well have poured gasoline on the fire. He looks crass, weak, and desperate.

All this after his disastrous and comical European Trip. Nobody likes him, and he just keeps showing us why we can't trust him. Maybe he should stay with the business he knows - screwing people out of jobs while he cashes in on Vulture Capitalism.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 10:47AM

Purpie/jack/whatever

You need new talking points from DebbieWS.

Did I mention you sound desperate.

President Romney, VP Paul (not Jack) Ryan. Get used to it, idiot.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:39PM

And, yet, Paul Ryan is still running for his Congressional seat in November - wonder why? Hmmm... have to ponder that a bit... snark, snark.

John Navratil| 9.13.12 @ 1:12PM

Purp,

As if this is new, unique or news. It's done regularly.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:24PM

I find it interesting he has a chance to lose - twice. And, completely be removed from Government .. so he can get a REAL job .. like all of us.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:51PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:49PM

Because he can. Wisconsin allows it.

Von Mises Jr| 9.13.12 @ 10:19AM

CJW, I though Perp would be using his "Jefferson" login today since the articles are about the Barbary Pirates. Arrrrrh?

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 10:53AM

He can't remember whether to use purpie or canuck or jack, etc. Doesn't matter, same lefty talking points, completely illogical and false facts, just like the Obama regime.

Our enemies must be laughing looking at Barack Hussein Carter, and Hillary next to him as Secretary of State. Her only accomplishment was to destroy billing records, and lie for Bubba.

But even Hillary said Barack H Carter could not handle the 3:AM phone call. He cannot even handle the 3:PM call, busy with Letterman, fundraising, and golf.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:41PM

You do enjoy your little fantasies don't you? I understand when VultureCap and VoucherBoy are losing to the Black Man - it hurts... I get it.

It'll be okay - go get a job, don't look to the government for it, and let the President protect you as he has for 4 years. Chill now.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 12:48PM

Purpie
So now you are a racist? We knew you are an idiot.

Obama protected the soldiers from Major Hassan a/k/a Allah Akbar, and really protected the four Americans yesterday.
You sound desperate, idiot.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:11PM

Let's see ... GW Bush let 2800 died on 9/11 and you have Obama with what 8? 10? ... hmmmm, I'll take Obama.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 2:09PM

Hey IdiotBoy
Maybe you forgot that Bubba was president for 8 years, never responded to the WTC attack in 93, the embassy attacks, the Khobar towers attack, the USS Cole attack, and refused to accept Osama when offered to us.

Gee, even a total idiot like you should be able to realize that Bubba created the situation for 9/11, just like Obama, with his weakness, has created yesterday's situation.

Are you really this stupid, or do you just post the Obama line as part of your $10 hour troll job?

Don't you have any pride to keep posting your drivel? Grow up and get a real job.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:23PM

Who said anything about Clinton ... when you're reaching, you're losing.

Let me point you to books by Richard Clarke, who headed up the Terrorist Center in the White House under Clinton AND Bush and see what someone who ACTUALLY knows what happened has to say.
Idiot Bush had plenty of warnings ... he wasn't interested in "swatting flies", he waited and wanted to invade entire countries.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 3:40PM

IdiotBoy Purpie
Hey moron, Clinton set the stage with his incompentece, just like Obama. You do not read or comprehend real well, do you?
There you go again, lying as usual. There was no specific warnings or evidence about 9/11, unless you are one of those truthers, purpie?, except the situation left by Clinton.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:22PM

Actually, it was Reagan, who turned tail in Lebanon that emboldened the terrorists. See, it takes time Chuckles.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:39PM

You are desperate, Obamaboy,

Since your argument that it is the fault of GWB is silly, you go to Reagan in 1983.

Try focusing on Clinton's eight years. Add turning tail, as you say, in Somalia when our soldiers were dragged thru the streets.

Or, Obama, apologizing and bowing to every muslim dictator, ordering our Marines at the Cairo embassy to not load their weapons, missing all the PDF briefings since Sept 6, and missing close to 50% of the briefings this year.

Yeah, he is on top of our national security. Those golf games, March basketball tournaments, fundraisers, Letterman, those are all more important than our security.

Run along, purpie, ask DebbieWS what you should say and blame. Maybe Nixon is at fault, or Ike, or Lincoln.

Idiot.

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 9:50AM

Purp| 9.12.12 @ 4:16PM

"Correct - the Embassy in Cairo released that message BEFORE there was any violence. Obama knew nothing about it - but they were worried for their lives and tried to calm things down.

"Smart, since they didn't get burned down like what happened in Libya."
______________

You are a disgusting scumbag, Burp.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 9:57AM

Stupid that you are you conflate the 2 - the Ambassador was killed in LIBYA and the message in CAIRO, EGYPT is hundreds of miles away ... Do you have a map? Think, Nick, Think... once.

The Embassy in Cairo was not torched, and may have been spared because of the message, who knows?, but which was NOT AN APOLOGY Certainly, not you.

You, Mitt Romney and Rush Loudmouth are dealing with something far, far over your head.
Let the REAL Commander-in-Chief handle it for us. He's proven his steadfastness, cool command of dangerous situations, and your sniping & snarkiness simply turns the non-right wingers against you and Romney... On second thought keep sniping.

Call names all you want, you're stupid and there's no cream for that.

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 10:18AM

The Apologist-in-Chief was at a fund-raiser in Vegas, last night, Burp.
That's how much he cares about FOUR DEAD AMERICANS.
And, how much you care.

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:37PM

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 10:18AM

The Apologist-in-Chief was at a fund-raiser in Vegas, last night, Burp.
That's how much he cares about FOUR DEAD AMERICANS.
And, how much you care.

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

MK48| 9.13.12 @ 10:29AM

Purp should be raped just like Stevens.....

Drunken Sailor| 9.13.12 @ 12:11PM

Not sure Purp would consider it rape.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:38PM

You're disgusting ... it's always on your mind, isn't it?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:37PM

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 12:52PM

Thanks for clearing that up, Purpie, the families of the murdered Americans feel better now that you know the difference between an embassy and consulate, and they were killed at a consulate.

You sound desperate, idiot.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:12PM

Hahaha ... I'm happy as a clam that our President is strong, caring and careful - nothing that Romney can claim to be...

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 1:21PM

No, Burp, you're happy that the Apologist-in-Chief doesn't care about FOUR DEAD AMERICANS.
Just like you don't care about them.

You're happy that the O'Bama regime apologizes for the American right to free-speech.
You're happy that they lie, constantly, about trying to GUT the work requirements from welfare reform, about the unemployment rate, and promising to keep those GM plants open in Wisconsin.

What should we expect from the democrat party? Just last week, at your convention, you guys BOOED God & threw Israel under the bus, remember?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:24PM

Nicky, Nicky, Nicky ... (sounds like dicky, doesn't it?)
Anyway - you're the one who keeps saying he doesn't care about 4 dead Americans - you think saying it over and over again makes it so?
You're more delusional and stupid, ignorant and EVIL than I thought you were.

No, Nick - you conflate the 2 incidents in your own mind.
One was an Embassy, one was a consulate. You DO know the difference, do you not? Quick go find out ... and like, RomBot - shut up until you know something.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 3:42PM

IdiotBoy Purpie,
We have four dead Americans, some brutalized, and you are happy as a clam because O is president. You are more stupid than a clam. His incompetence caused this, as the death of Brian Terry and the hundreds of Mexicans resulting from the Fast and Furious plan of Obama/holder.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:29PM

Yes I'm thrilled he is President - precisely because of the the incidents in the Middle East.

I'm relieved that he is handling the crisis - not Mitt the Twit who can't even say hello to Britain without causing the Prime Minister to cut him down.

Ya know, far more died in Afghanistan in one day than 4, and the Entire RNC and Romney didn't think it was important enough to even talk about it.

And yell all you want - you can't make the President weak, apologetic, it's his fault or any other bullshit you come up with.

America saw it all on display in Tampa, and trust the President 54 to 39% over Romney to PROTECT THEM.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:44PM

Purpie
You are so stupid you criticized O without knowing it. Americans are dying in Afghanistan for no reason because of Obama's incompetence and weakness. He has surrendered and announced a withdrawal date. Brilliant strategy and tactics. Tell the enemy when you are leaving. Wow, if Ike only did that in WWII.
In addition to yesterday's deaths, Obama is getting Americans killed in Afghanistan for no good reason, and you say it is Mitt's fault because he did not talk about it?
Do you realize how truly stupid you are? You embarass yourself with every comment. Grow up, little girl.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:38PM

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 1:14PM

Purp| 9.12.12 @ 4:16PM

"Correct - the Embassy in Cairo released that message BEFORE there was any violence. Obama knew nothing about it - but they were worried for their lives and tried to calm things down.

"Smart, since they didn't get burned down like what happened in Libya."
______________

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:20PM

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:52PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

fmm| 9.13.12 @ 10:03AM

Thanks purpO, you are the funniest guy on this site.

Bill8472| 9.13.12 @ 11:04AM

Ronald Reagan wasn't Ronald Reagan (despite a few stellar moments during the 1940s and 1960s) until after 1980.

And don't forget: Ronald Reagan was the catastrophic health care plan man.

Anthony| 9.13.12 @ 8:29AM

The problem with the polls is the same as the problem with the MSM, they are mostly corrupt bastards shilling for Obozo.
The numbers just don't add up, given the state of the country. Of course, polling the NY Times newsroom will always get you the results you want. Duh, did we over sample leftists? You bet we did!!!
Anybody who pays the slightest attention to anything said in the MSM is a fool, or an Obozo drone.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 9:58AM

And yet, Romdy Bomdy isn't bouncing anywhere near the REAL President who's re-election is clearly in sight now.

Everyone is wrong but you, is that it Chuckles? Okay, go with that ... down in flames with the Vulture/VoucherCare....

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:52PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Joellen| 9.13.12 @ 8:32AM

Yes I am sure we believe the polls, like we believe there wasnt some evil intent of trying to discredit Governor Romney on his statements of the inane Obama administration's response to the murders of our American Ambassador and his people. Yea, I believe the snakes in the grass media on anything they report like I believe Obama, the Clintons, the entire commie democrat party have the United States best interest in mind. Yes sirre, I believe this malevolence , bitter fifth column like I believe Obama loves those of us who cling to our GOD, guns and country. We should all be beyond OUTRAGED with this media - we should be fighting them with everything we have because they like the Democrats seek to destroy the America that those bravely fight to defend.

Intelligent Design| 9.13.12 @ 8:35AM

The key to this election is the Independent vote. Independents are looking for a credible leader with appropriate experience, not an incompetent, treacherous demagogue. They will put Mitt Romney in the White House, turn the Senate over to Republicans, and maintain Republican control of the House of Representatives.

megapotamus | 9.13.12 @ 9:44AM

A long memory is its own reward. Yes, Carter's defeat was a stunning development for the Democrats but then so was the discharge of McGovern. Same with Dukakis, Mondale, Kerry... really the Democrats are always expecting the nation to expel Republicans like ipecac. Obama's election was not even what they expected. Six points? But triumphalism is not in order at least out in public. Those hardhats, Catholics, evangelicals etc may well be WITH us or sufficiently AGAINST Obama but they still have to show up. Romney by landslide? I hope so but I have no crystal ball. Also the margin of fraud is a substantial hurdle. Let's be modest, persistent and consistent. With luck our candidate will do the same.

Who Knows?| 9.13.12 @ 9:44AM

Polls = Free advertising for the jackass party

merlin| 9.13.12 @ 9:55AM

I hope it is Romney by a landslide. If it is close, it goes to the "Party of God" candidate. They have demonstrated their willingness to manufacture as many votes as needed to win.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 10:09AM

Better start changing - your hope is evaporating.

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:38PM

That would be your "Hope and Change (c)" that wold be evaporating, moron.

Louisiana Joe| 9.13.12 @ 10:41AM

The Presidential candidate that a major party picks is reflective of the heart/core of the party. When one looks at the last three Democrat Party candidates it is most revealing.
Clinton: Liar, philander, corrupt (land and cattle futures deals), sexual abuser, sexual harasser, traitor (missile technology to China), perjurer, disbarred lawyer.

Kerry: Disgraced military officer, liar, traitor (met with North Vietnam leaders while still serving in the Naval Reserve), American hating protestor, gigolo, tax cheat.

Obama: Never had a private sector job, spent 20 years in a church that preaches hatred of whites and Jews, refuses to release his REAL birth certificate, seals all college records, refuses to release info about his trip to Pakistan as a youth, uses an obviously false SS#, raised by his CPUSA grandparents, mentored in his youth by a self-professed Communist agitator, fathered by a foreign communist bigamist, acknowledged his rapport with militant blacks and radicals while in college, political career launched in the home of two self-professed American terrorist, publicly stated he would side with the Muslims in time of conflict.

Why would any self-respectable, American loving Christian citizen ever vote for a Democrat????

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 11:19AM

Simple - Because we don't believe you ....

We can decide with our own eyes & ears who created prosperity and fairness for America and who wants war, voodoo economics and tax breaks for the rich...

You really think that by dissing 1/2 the country as un-American, you get any votes? Seriously? It's not fantasy football here, Bubba.

THIS is reality and your team, VultureCap and VoucherBoy are not ready for reality.

It's crystal clear to all who look that Mitt the Twit is just that, and Lyin' Ryan is sounding more and more like Sarah "I can see Russia from my House" Palin.

Louisiana Joe| 9.13.12 @ 11:35AM

I feel comfortable dissing anyone who would vote for any of those three people who are so lacking in class or honor. It is sad that nearly half of the country is like you and unable to do a little history reading or critical thinking. Who are you going to believe, the media, the Democrat party, or your lying eyes.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:25PM

It's insulting to be told you don't read history or use critical thinking... was that your way of getting a convert?

Perhaps this is what is wrong with Right Wing World... certainly the current Pres/VP candidates - you talk about honor, integrity, love of country and faith - but you lack it in how you treat others.
It's amazing to me as an older white man, how many angry old white men are Republicans (and young). Maybe that's because I chose my profession and business, am happy with my lot in life - and you are not.

Don't blame the government, Joe, go do something about it on your own. It doesn't matter who the President is regarding jobs or gas prices - but it does matter who can protect us best.

And President Obama has proven his worth and will be elected on that proven ability alone come November. Mitty is just reminding everyone it isn't him we want answering the 3AM call.

Jrk| 9.13.12 @ 2:50PM

Hey Purp do you really believe the bullshit coming out of your mouth. I have to wear boots reading your posts cause the bullshit gets pretty high when you comment. "President Obama has proven his worth" ? Really? That statement alone should disqualify you from anything that requires a brain or some sense of responsibility to perform. You are definitely a complete asshole.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:19PM

Clearly, you don't think so, but that doesn't make it untrue does it now, Sunshine?

But, true to form for the right wing, you just throw nasty verbal abuse at anyone you don't agree with.

Well, too bad for you you're in the minority and will lose again in November.

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:40PM

"But, true to form for the right wing, you just throw nasty verbal abuse at anyone you don't agree with."

Project we much? Check the recent polls. Also, check those surveys (Conservatives 40, Progtards 20) for who's the minority...

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 11:50AM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:31PM

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 1:13PM

Purp| 9.12.12 @ 4:16PM

"Correct - the Embassy in Cairo released that message BEFORE there was any violence. Obama knew nothing about it - but they were worried for their lives and tried to calm things down.

"Smart, since they didn't get burned down like what happened in Libya."
______________

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag, Burp.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:12PM

Palrak| 9.13.12 @ 1:39PM

Are you so out of touch that you really believe Palin said "I can see Russia from my house"? Apparently so. Tina Fey look-alike said that on late-night TV.

I'm sick to death of your misinformed, rude, and snarky comments.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:16PM

When you look at what she ACTUALLY said, it's far worse... it was incoherent and laughable... You do know what she ACTUALLY said don't you?

"COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our-- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--
COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state."

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 5:13PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:32PM

They don't see it your way .. Independents are supporting the strong leader - Obama.

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:41PM

Cite your sources. All recent polls have Romney +10 to +15 with independents.

Louis Jenkins| 9.13.12 @ 11:03AM

Mr. Louisiana Joe:

You just about summed it up. None of the three ever had a job. They have lived a free life so to speak. Any God loving American who votes for the likes of them should have his head examined.

I never listen to polls any more. They're non-scientific. Why even bother. The MSM, the democrat politicians, all make the wind blow in which ever direction they wish. The people are upset with Obama. He has not brought what he promised, so Purp, go ahead and blow in the wind.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 11:26AM

So Richie Rich who was handed everything on a plate and he knows, uh, what?

And Lyin' Ryan has hardly been much but a government public employee representing 700,000 poor souls. Why didn't he keep a GM plant open?

These 2 are what you're pinning your hopes on? VultureCap and VoucherBoy? Good for you... you chose unwisely and the chickens are coming home to roost. They are both fish out of water, flawed on the national stage, and way over their head.

And it shows, almost pitifully. They are getting desperate and flailing at any "shiny object" that passes by to try and get one more vote.

Louisiana Joe| 9.13.12 @ 11:41AM

So being born rich (both Roosevelts, all Kennedys) and only having government positions (Clinton, Kerry, Obama) disqualifies a candidate. Do you even realize how stupid you sound? I think not.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:35PM

You dis everyone that served this country, 2 of them Presidents (whether you like them or not is irrelevant) and you call me stupid ? That's not only just stupid, it's unpatriotic and un-American.

Mitt Romney is No Ronald Reagan and he sure is NO George Romney .. but you go with him.

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:42PM

Thanks for proving LJ's point.

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 11:51AM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:36PM

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 1:13PM

Purp| 9.12.12 @ 4:16PM

"Correct - the Embassy in Cairo released that message BEFORE there was any violence. Obama knew nothing about it - but they were worried for their lives and tried to calm things down.

"Smart, since they didn't get burned down like what happened in Libya."
______________

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag, Burp.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 2:16PM

Good work, Nick.

Purpie is a disgusting, lying obamaboy, and this particular post should follow each of his comments.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:04PM

No, I just don't put up with all your lying scumbag right wing, Obama hating comments. But they really are stupid and lame. Especially Nick has a boner for me.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 3:44PM

Getting desperate, obamaboy purpie.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:33PM

Oh, is that what's going on? I'm laughing at the leader of your "Party"...

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 7:58PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.13.12 @ 11:12AM

Emmett,
I have noted in two DIFFERENT polls that some 80% polled said America is indeed going the wrong directio. How does that square up when the names are removed.

Ian Cognito | 9.13.12 @ 11:45AM

I'm old enuff to remember whenever going to Town, church, etc. at a minimum, men wore slacks, hard soled shoes, a collared shirt, jacket and hat. Women wore a dress, gloves, and hat. These conventions of respect were always honored. Recently, On invitation, I attend a church in appropriate attire-surrounded by people in t-shirts, jeans, and tennis shoes. When entering an earthly house of the Lord, my best attire was expected. Maybe those around me wore their best-I cannot know. Room for a suit and tie, for church, must exist in their budgets. A lack of respect for our fellow man is the problem. More importantly, an absence of respect for authority and tradition is also evident. Society has not maintained these conventions and suffers accordingly. The basis of humanity is contained in these behaviors. They represent respect for society's excellence and a desire to personally participate in that pursuit of excellence. Society is an artifice based upon assumptions-everyone will obey the laws. Once enough people choose to not obey laws; society implodes. The Left forces Society to embrace a soft barbarism and other repugnant behaviors once taboo; for diversity and inclusion- punishments await troublemakers. Condoning the desecration of one's body is evidence the Left wishes to eradicate respect for self. When a person holds little regard for their body, convincing them to desecrate less personal items, traditions, and our fellow man is an easy task.

MK48| 9.13.12 @ 8:12PM

Ian........with no disrespect God only cares whats on the inside not what you look like.

Thats the problem we have today with religion everyone thinks if you look religious you must be.

7-08| 9.13.12 @ 12:26PM

A poll of "likely voters" showed Romney up by one this morning.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 12:36PM

Hahahaha ... legend in his own mind...

Palrak| 9.13.12 @ 1:44PM

Good news, indeed.

AmericanCynic| 9.13.12 @ 4:01PM

Stop polling GOP staffers! ;)

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 12:58PM

***In 1980 similar polls showed Jimmy Carter leading the Old Cowboy almost to the very end. Carter was ahead of Governor Ronald Reagan by 4 points in late September, by 8 points in October, and the Gallup polls had him ahead of Reagan by 6 points in last days of the election. Reagan won by 9 points, sweeping 44 states. In 1988 Governor Dukakis at one point led Vice President George H. W. Bush by 17 points. He lost by almost 8 points.***

I suppose polling comes under free speech protection, but really...isn't there some way we can outlaw polling? Maybe not polling for internal campaign purposes, but polling as used by the mainstream media, not to measure public opinion, but to push public opinion? Political news is almost unbearable to watch at this point in an election year, because the lead story every day is what the New York Times/CNN/CBS/Reuters/Quinnepac/The-Usual-Suspects polls says about the race, and in pretty much every case, the Democrat is ahead, regardless of how devastating the events of the world are to the Democrats' prospects. My sense is that the media polls are all hooey. It would be fine if few people paid attention to them or gave them any credence, but the political nerds seem to hand on every poll that's released, even when the ones that are obviously wrong.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:15PM

" because the lead story every day is what the New York Times/CNN/CBS/Reuters/Quinnepac/The-Usual-Suspects polls says about the race, and in pretty much every case, the Democrat is ahead" - well, that's because the President is ahead .. and pulling further away from Romney every day.

It's clear you want a Republican to win, but you don't like RomBot and he doesn't have enough there there to get elected.

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 2:12PM

Do you actually work, Purp? I mean, do you have a job? Because it looks like you spend your entire day posting trash on these threads.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:05PM

Is it my fault you have a lousy ass job so that you cannot blog?
Maybe you should spend your time worrying about your own job. You do, don't you?

Trash is anything you don't agree with, is that it?

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 5:13PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Brad| 9.13.12 @ 5:43PM

At least he HAS a job. All of us will need to worry if Obambi gets another term.

Vic| 9.13.12 @ 1:03PM

I agree, the polls are flawed. The only trustworthy one is Rasmussen reports and it has Romney up by 1 point. Just wait for a few days as this is a rolling 7 day poll. Once we get the full impact of Obozo's apology to our evil Muslim enemies in the Middle East you will realize the poll would have Romney up atleast 10 points. Guys, this is a total gamechanger for Romney whom I love to call the lucky bastard. So lucky he lost to McCain, lucky to have Ryan accept being on his ticket, lucky that Obozo is flunking on the economy and now the war!

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:18PM

What are YOU reading? What War?

RCP Average:
Obama48.6
Romney45.3

Vic| 9.13.12 @ 2:56PM

The war on Islam, what else

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:08PM

No such thing - except in Right Wing World.

But your comment is EXACTLY why Romney will lose ... he's way too much a reminder of Dubya. Now, he's proving his military chops are just like Dubya, as if we should rule the world.

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 5:12PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 7:11PM

having fun? Nothing important to say I see - still.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 7:59PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Ian Cognito | 9.13.12 @ 7:08PM

People like you have no intellectual honesty and your "Job" must be a government make work position for the handicapped. (It's fun to watch them work.) The Left has its new super secret strategy - they will flood RCP with garbage polls - so the AVERAGE favors Obama. All those polls over sample democrats. The % over sampled is increasing weekly to break even or lead by 1. It started with 5% and the last one I saw was 12%. These very same democrat polling firms had a "virtual tie" up til election day 2010. How'd you like them apples?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 1:23PM

It didn’t seem to be a lot to ask, but when the crisis in the Middle East flared up, Romney turned out to have no restraining inner core. All the uneasy feelings you got when he went to London and dissed the Olympic organizers can now come into full bloom.

Feel free to worry about anything. That he’d declare war on Malta. Lock himself in a nuclear missile silo and refuse to come out until there’s a tax cut. Hand the country over to space aliens.

Louisiana Joe| 9.13.12 @ 3:05PM

In the words of that great American patriot, Hillary Rodham Clinton discussing the Democrat party’s criticizing of the Bush administration’s handling of the War On Terror, “I am tired of people calling us unpatriotic for speaking out about any administration”. So, when the Democrat Party criticizes a Republican administration it is OK but if the Republican party criticizes a Democrat administration it is un-patriotic. Works the same way with the debt I guess. If I keep reading Purp’s post I may get a smart as him/her/it someday.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 3:12PM

The Republican Party isn't criticizing the President or his administration - Your crazy ass Rush's pundits are, some ... and there is a BIG difference.

The defense of Mitty by the Republican Congress is NOT deafening - or haven't you got the memo? Very quiet except for Jim DeMint ... very quiet.

In fact, today, even Mitty has moved on from criticizing the President after he got slapped down yesterday. He's over his head and was doing more damage than just shutting up. But it's too late - he's damaged any hope of foreign policy credibility. And with it, his election. What a dope.

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 5:11PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:34PM

What'samatta Nick, too much typing for ya? You're like a boil that won't go away ... Nick the Dick... that's better.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:46PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Is that better, IdiotBoy?

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 6:46PM

We seem to have hit a nerve, eh, W?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 7:09PM

Not at all ... you can congratulate each other for your brilliance - Romney is still losing, and the Republican Congress just extended the Budget until after the election ... Where's the spine in the Congressional Republicans to do what they say they will?

Nick| 9.13.12 @ 7:34PM

And, the Apologist-in-Chief still cares more about fund-raising than the KILLING OF FOUR AMERICANS, Burp.
And, the O'Bama regime is still lying about trying to GUT the work requirement from welfare reform, the true unemployment rate, and promising to keep open GM plants in Wisconsin.

According to Bob Woodward, O'Bama lets congressional staffers berate him in front of others. WHAT A LOSER!

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 7:59PM

Nick
He/she is desperate. Definetely hit a nerve.

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 8:54PM

If space aliens came for something they would take it and no one could stop them. Your comment is absurd.

PM Stanton| 9.13.12 @ 1:27PM

I'm sure you're correct that all but that one poll are wrong and that this election will follow the polling of 1980 and not the polling of the 7 elections since and that the polls are slanted toward Democrats in an era in which a significantly higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats have land phone lines (on which most polls rely). If only there were some measure, at some time even, weeks from now, to add up all the actual numbers and confirm what other commenters here have said--that that Romney has a landslide with well over 40 states. I guess will never know, so we will assume your thinking is always correct.

David| 9.13.12 @ 1:41PM

With the state of things, and BamBam's f_ck ups on so many things said and done, and the God and Jerusalem issues at the dem convention, Romney should be way up in the polls. And he very well may be, we just won't know until election day.

I have to keeping coming back to my firm belief, especially after Clinton won re-election, that I will never underestimate the stupidity of the American people. Remember, we have a couple of more generations who have now been educated in public schools. 47% pay no taxes, 50% get some form of government welfare, and the major media on the side of the dems. It is a lot to overcome.

David| 9.13.12 @ 1:45PM

And Purp, Romney was not handed anything by his father. Romney worked for what he has. Do a little research, or simply just listen for a change instead of spouting off your crap and you may learn that.

The one candidate in this race who has been handed everything his entire life is the Boy. Never earned any of his positions or titles - just one example, the Nobel Peace Prize - yep, he sure deserved that, didn't he? What the f_ck did he ever do to become prez? Even Hilly and Biden said that only thing he ever did was give a speech in 2004.

PM Stanton| 9.13.12 @ 3:26PM

ah worked for everything...like Donald Trump...after Daddy's money bought his education, his connections and his first job, he then lost it all and then restarted again...mostly with board memberships based on his connections. I am sure having his father's ear also was of no interest to anyone.
Meanwhile, Obama's Harvard education and Law Review (top ranking) raised by a single parent of middle (albeit upper middle) class upbringing and then working as a community worker is not being handed anything. However, you are correct, he was handed the Prize--in fact that's what they call it. It is generally acknowledged that that prize was given to the USA for turning a page from Bush and voting for Obama, but calling that undeserved is one reasonably accurate statement from you.

Butch| 9.13.12 @ 4:29PM

Final score of the most-accurate-summary-of-Obama contest:

Louisiana Joe 80, PM Stanton, 0.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:37PM

Not really - he borrowed money for college from his father and Bill Bain gave him Bain Capital to run with a golden parachute if he failed.

Never took a risk with his own life or money. Cushy life and out of touch.

He's probably a good man, a fine Bishop of the Mormon Church - but he's out of his depth and should go back to his Bishoprick.

gregorymark| 9.13.12 @ 2:06PM

Clearly, Purp must get paid by the post.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:37PM

What - you can't keep up with me?

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 8:00PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

guru4u | 9.13.12 @ 4:07PM

I vaguely remember the statistical concepts of validity, objectivity and reliability. When these are met, the stats have meaning and are useful ... they approach something like the TRUTH. Sorry, but I don't understand the concept of a Democrat or Republican "pollster". Who can you trust? From where I stand, nobody!

Carl Peter Klapper | 9.13.12 @ 4:48PM

The choices on those political polls are slanted to what the polling organization wants to hear. Specifically, they do NOT want to hear responses from people which indicate they know the difference between income and wealth -- and that income inequality is the main and most natural way of correcting wealth inequality -- or which indicate they know the difference between health insurance and health care. Nor have I seen revised polls indicating that my comments made it up the chain. I have yet to see a poll which asks "Do you support or oppose the Democratic Upward Mobility Tax?" or "Would you favor abolishing health insurance and establishing Municipal Medical Departments?" This is just a flavor of the serious disconnect between the polling organizations and the people being polled.

When you add to this the ignoring of Doctors Paul and Stein, how accurate can these polls be? Why would ones vote in a multiple choice ballot correspond to their binary choice in a poll?

Carl Peter Klapper | 9.13.12 @ 5:05PM

Obama needs the votes of Progressives and Greens. He is losing them to Jill Stein. He also needs the votes of pacifists. He is losing those to Jill Stein and Gary Johnson. He also has been trying to get the Populist vote. This Populist is voting for Jill Stein and does not see any other Populist being fooled by Mr. Obama's empty and ignorant rhetoric.

Obama only has the vote of the racist Democratic base, which sees him as Harry Reid sees him: BARuncletomA.

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:38PM

Virgil Goode will put President Obama back in the White House .. Constitution party ...

William G. Haynes| 9.13.12 @ 5:18PM

You note that the Russians are snubbing Hilary Clinton's initiative. Can't wait for the moment when they embrace Romney's Sec of State ideas. How quick do you think that will be?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:39PM

hahahaha ... our #1 Geopolitical Foe? That Russia... ya, they can't wait for RomBot

bdavis34| 9.13.12 @ 5:33PM

The polls have to be wrong, period! It's illogical that Obama is actually ahead in the race. No matter how many college kids vote for obama, it won't make the difference. A good chunk of jews in Florida, just voted Red, making Florida Republican for sure. It's front page news obama snubbed Bibi, but he is going to meet the muslim brotherhood. He's a nut.

Black Christians, libertarians, independents, Reagan dems, more jews, some union democrats, and most of the evangelicals aren't voting for obama. How can obama win?

Purp| 9.13.12 @ 5:41PM

'cause nobody wants Romney, even holding their nose, he stinks. ... no one wins when they are the "lesser of 2 evils" .. it doesn't work that way.

CJW| 9.13.12 @ 5:47PM

You blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death, Burp.
You are a disgusting scumbag.

Abu Nudnik| 9.13.12 @ 9:43PM

Actually it's the rule, not the exception.

Andrew P111| 9.13.12 @ 9:00PM

The college kids aren't voting for Obama this time, but the rest of the Obamacans still are. That IS the problem.

And Obama expanded the SNAP rolls by 2x and the Disability rolls by 4x. The SNAP recipients have to be poor so they would vote for Obama anyway, but the new Disability recipients are formerly employed, middle-aged people. That is 10 million more people on Disability folks, and they are all voting for Obama to keep their benefits.

Abu Nudnik| 9.13.12 @ 9:41PM

There;s a problem with the Taranto Principle. According to the Suttovsky Principle, people want to elect a winner. That's why idiot salespeople tell me stuff I don't like is popular.

old1| 9.13.12 @ 11:28PM

Ok let's take a look at why the democRATs win the battle of the polls.
Republicans have jobs and work part of the day. They have money so they go out after work and are not at home when the phone rings or if they are they see they don't know the caller and don't answer.
democRATs are on the public dole and don't work so they are always at home watching broadcast propaganda TV, drinking, smoking crack etc., eating cheetos and Twinkies, not much else to do so when the phone rings they jump on the opportunity to talk to anything. Obama always promises them "MORE" so sure they say they will vote for him! If they remember, aren't too stoned or drunk, can remember where the poll is, can find the car keys, have gas in the car, the car will run, haven't finally found out all he does is lie.
That's why!

old1| 9.13.12 @ 11:52PM

Today while at a women's college the Kenyan said he was born to a single mom! Single mom? What about Barack Hussein Obama Sr.? OH! If Sr. was his dad then "Jr." wouldn't be eligible to really be President! I guess the fake birth certificate is getting legs!