The American Spectator

Appleby| 8.26.09 @ 6:52AM

So the Brownshirts are tax evaders? With an example like the Tax Czar -- also a tax evader -- what else would you expect?

The shine is coming off despite the foot-dragging of the MSM. Well, gallows humour may be better than no humour at all.

Bruce| 8.26.09 @ 9:32AM

Clearly, US AG Eric Holder's time would be better spent by investigating ACORN and CCI rather than the CIA.
Of course, it will never happen!

owyheewine| 8.26.09 @ 9:37AM

Does anyone else sense an upcoming end of prosecution for lack of evidence? Holder seems to have a knack for pardons and dropped prosecutions, starting with Marc Rich.

tenn slim| 8.26.09 @ 10:00AM

All
"If ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) happens to be convicted, it could have its status as a nonprofit corporation revoked in Nevada..
My opine:
1. Insert Soros OSI's Liasion offices, Funders accounts, and Soros Operatives list for all of the above "ACORN" and you have a mirror image of corruption.
2. ACORN will be set back, but the actual prosecution comes out of the OBNA Judicial Offices, which will NOT prosecute. Delay, Ignore and eventually bless the ACORN operations.
3. OSI, Soros, ACORN, ACLU, SEIU, typically Chicago style thuggery. NOTE: THE IRS now has some obligation to investigate. What we need here is an" Untouchables Team".
Anyone willing to volunteer.?
end
Semper Fi.

Papa Ray| 8.26.09 @ 10:01AM

ACORN (or whatever they call themselves now) won't have to worry about investigations or prosecutions in the blue states. The Democrats in control will not do anything because doing so would mean that they would be exposed as helping with voter fraud.

This is a warning about the coming elections. You think that voter fraud, false registrations and the like were bad the last time...Just be prepared for the wholesale voter fraud in the next elections.

At the present time, there is no way to prevent this as all the blue states will assure that democrats are elected. Come the Presidential election it will be the same.

Papa Ray
West Texas

"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."
2009 Judge Alex Kozinski

crookedwren| 8.26.09 @ 10:34AM

They owe taxes by the "bijillions" AND WE ARE GIVING THEM MONEY FROM THE SO-CALLED STIMULUS?

Every day it seems the Marxist/Maoist/Leninist hydra raises yet another head or two or nine!

PAPA RAY--
Daunting but eloquent quote there from Judge Kozinski. I'd like to know more about him. Thanks for sharing that one.

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Ken (Old Texican)| 8.26.09 @ 10:40AM

Heck, guys, ACORN is going to take over the census if Obama has his way...
But!
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Don L| 8.26.09 @ 12:12PM

Convicted? You're kidding of course -unless ACORN works for the CIA it won't be prosecuted -or....the prosecuter will be prosecuted - if he wins.

1FreeMan| 8.26.09 @ 12:46PM

Christopher Edwards better watch his back. Threats from the whitehouse have taught us that Chicago politics at play here. Mr. Edwards could be dead within the week... heart attack, don't 'cha know?

ACORN operatives need to be caught on film blocking election poling areas, fraudulantly filing voter registration cards and bullying Americans. Evil will never withstand the light of day. Your most powerful weapon is not a gun (unfortunately) but a camera. Get a gun first (protect yourself and your family) ... then get a good digital movie camera. It used to be that the pen was mighitier than the sword. Now it is a digital camera. Fraud and lies of the Obama machiene are only lies if you can prove it.

Organized better than you...| 8.26.09 @ 1:08PM

Hello Folks,

Just thought I'd add my two cents... ACORN has not committed voter fraud. I several hundred cases around the country that I saw first hand- it was the local board of elections that inserted known bad cards in the VR (voter registration) batches. I personally handed over boxes in PA, NJ, and other states to local officials identifying cards that could not be verified after several attempts to contact said registrant. Not one soul registered and voted as "Micky Mouse"- that is more messaging that lazy folks like to eat up and re-message. Remember WMD's? Secondly the get out the vote efforts. Help turnout of Americans to vote which sadly and ungodly number Americans don't vote.. How un-American. The Census is done by several organizations across the country besides ACORN, and the federal government funds them all. ACORN was funded by both Bush administrations due to the high accuracy rate of ID'ing valid addresses. Lastly I will say that ACORN had several employees beholden to interests outside of the ACORN mission and bylaws. Power to the people, and the people shall rule- Unfortunately some of ACORN leadership mainly it's former chief organizer Wade Rathke and a handful of insiders did what they thought was best for those they were helping to organize. This ultimately led to a collapse- You help your members fight their fight not your own, you organize to win based on mutual self interest, not for the benifit of a few ideologues.

let's start looking at the real problem- disinformation and the lack of critical thinking!

Bebbette| 8.26.09 @ 1:50PM

ACORN is nothing but a thug org & should be obliterated from existence. They have no right to one more dime of taxpayers money. They are accused of embezzlement, corruption, $ laundering & voter fraud. That should take away any tax exempt status & free $ from the govt. They are now in NJ trying to do away w/2nd amendment, while Obama & Van Jones are creating AmeriCorp, civil troops, that according to Obama will be funded as well, if not, better that the military & will have military training. Communist Van Jones is overseeing them, community orgs & unions. Obama has given them a provision in HR 3200, which they are exempt from, but will benefit from our $ with payoff of their underfunded subsidized plans for their retirees & families. Did he forget to mention that?
An event organizer told the Birmingham News,"We are looking for supporters for Obama's HC, education & energy policies. We're are not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army." We must rise to defeat this objective. This agenda needs to be exposed & Obama impeached for crimes against our country.

Ken (Old Texican)| 8.26.09 @ 1:55PM

Organized.....
You cannot even organize a declarative sentence.

There used to be a popular term for folks like you:

stupenagle! Heh!

Conrad Spiracy| 8.26.09 @ 2:00PM

"let's start looking at the real problem- disinformation and the lack of critical thinking!"

Organized: you're a perfect example.

LOL

Nobama| 8.26.09 @ 2:10PM

Should be: Organized CRIME better than you ....

Piece of crap fascist.

Bob| 8.26.09 @ 3:02PM

So Democrats try to get more minorities to vote and Republicans try to suppress that vote. In fact, there was a book written about Republican suppression tactics by a Republican operative. This is why more and more people are becoming independents -- both parties are corrupt and the professional politicians interest is only to get reelected. Both sides will say anything to get elected. We need term limits and citizen representatives and election reform on both sides.

BOB IS A TROLL| 8.26.09 @ 3:34PM

What we REALLY need is for stupid liberal astroturf trolls to stop pretending they're RINOs.

yeswecan | 8.26.09 @ 4:02PM

We need voter reform for sure but if Obama has his way there wont be another election.We need to get B.Hitler Obortion out of office.We need to check and see if canidates quallify for office(i.e BIRTH CERTIFICATE).We need to hold government under the light of our constitution.WE need to hold government accountable for the offices they hold,"laws"they pass,actions they take and money they spend.We need men to be men and stand up for thier rights and protect against infringements on those rights for thier families and future generations.We need to put God back in our country (He didnt leave He was kicked out).We need to wake up and reflect on what is missing.We need to talk to our nieghbors ,not spy on them. You want reform?Then stand and be heard or be herded. p

William| 8.26.09 @ 4:02PM

No, what we REALLY REALLY need is for RINOs to stop being stupid liberals - but I repeat myself.

Truth to Power| 8.26.09 @ 6:15PM

When a troll like 3/5 Bob says, "both parties are corrupt..." it is the first sign that he is feeling some regret for his vote for President Obama. I don't expect much else from him but that brings a smile to my face.

Deal with facts| 8.26.09 @ 7:25PM

Scientific American's Dishonest Attack
On 911Research
by Jim Hoffman
Version 1.2, July 13, 2005
Contents

a critique of
Fahrenheit 2777:
9/11 has generated the mother of all conspiracy theories
published in Scientific American
5/26/05: 911Research publishes Version 0.9 of this critique
6/03/05: 911Research publishes Version 1.0 of this critique
6/06/05: 911Research publishes Version 1.1 of this critique
7/13/05: 911Research publishes Version 1.2 of this critique

The editors of Scientific American followed in the footsteps of Popular Mechanics in exploiting a trusted brand in order to protect the perpetrators of the mass murder of 9/11/01. The column by Michael Shermer in the June, 2005 issue of Scientific American, titled Fahrenheit 2777, is an attempt to deceive the magazine's readers into dismissing the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was an inside job without ever looking at that evidence. More specifically, Shermer attempts to inoculate readers against looking at the decidedly scientific refutation of the official story found on our website, 911Research, with a cluster of disinformation techniques including:

Attributing to 911Research an obscure and unrepresentative statement that steel has a melting point of 2,777ºF
Falsely implying that 911Research embraces a straw-man argument that the official account of the Twin Towers' collapses depends on the fires having melted steel.
Contextualizing 911Research as nonsense by surrounding its mention with absurd claims, and racist ideas.
Although the column aims to marginalize the 9/11 Truth Movement generally (without ever acknowledging it by name), mentioning the books Inside Job, The New Pearl Harbor, and 9/11: The Great Illusion, it appears to be aimed primarily at 911Research for several reasons:
It is one of only two sites Shermer mentions.
It's the source of his 2,777 figure.
It's the target of his mis-attribution of the straw man claim about melted steel.
Its most persuasively argued claim -- that the Towers were destroyed through controlled demolition -- is the only point Shermer attempts to debunk.

The Cryptic Origin of 2,777 Degrees Farenheit
Just after mentioning "creationism, Holocaust denial and the various crank theories of physics," Shermer states:

[A]ccording to www.911research.wtc7.net, steel melts at a temperature of 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit, but jet fuel burns at only 1,517 degrees F. No melted steel, no collapsed towers.
In fact, 911Research has never contained the figure 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit. What 911Research does contain is passages like the following:

1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron
~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel
~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)
(See The Killer Fires Theory is Pure Fantasy.)

Unable to locate the source of Shermer's figure of of 2,777ºF in the over 500 pages of original material on the 911Research website, I accused him of lying. Previous versions of my essay noted:

Shermer's attribution of 2,777ºF appears calculated to discredit the site in the eyes of the casual reader. Even the reader who doesn't know that steel does not have a single melting point (since steel is a[n] alloy whose melting point depends on its composition) is likely to conclude that 911Research chose 2,777 for numerological reasons and ignores physics, and will be very unlikely to type in the unnecessarily long URL www.911research.wtc7.net .

In correspondence dated 7/11/05, Shermer revealed the source of his 2,777ºF. He pointed out that a page containing a transcript for my slide presentation The Twin Towers Demolition contained the figure 1525 Celsius, whose Fahrenheit equivalent is 2777. This number was a typo, since the temperature it referred to was the melting point of iron, 1535ºC. The number 1525 appeared only two sentences after a link to the corresponding slide, which listed both 1535ºC, and its equivalent 2795ºF -- not 1525ºC, which appeared nowhere on the site outside of the typo on the obscure transcript page. Nonetheless, my earlier characterization of Shermer's statement as a "bold-faced lie" is unwarranted, and I apologize for my error.

Shermer's Melted Steel Straw Man
In the above excerpt, Shermer implies that our argument for demolition is that the fires could not have melted the steel. In fact, 911Research nowhere embraces the claim that the melting of the structural steel was a prerequisite for a gravity collapse of the towers. What we do is debunk the claim made by apologists of the official story that the fires melted the steel. This claim appeared in several places, including an article in Scientific American itself, in which M.I.T. professor of civil and environmental engineering Eduardo Kausel states:

I believe that the intense heat softened or melted the structural elements--floor trusses and columns--so that they became like chewing gum, and that was enough to trigger the collapse.

The fire-melts-steel idea was also endorsed by structural engineer Chris Wise, who was quoted by the BBC as stating:

It was the fire that killed the buildings. There's nothing on earth that could survive those temperatures with that amount of fuel burning. The columns would have melted, the floors would have melted and eventually they would have collapsed one on top of each other.
In the article that quoted Wise and in other articles, the BBC ran the graphic to the right, which asserts that fires of 800ºC were "hot enough to melt steel floor supports."

For more information on claims by "experts" that air-aspirated hydrocarbon-fueled open fires can melt steel, see:

"Experts" claim fires melted the towers' structures
The Killer Fires theory

In the transcript mentioned above, the paragraph immediately following the source of Shermer's 2,777ºF debunks the column failure theory. Subsequent paragraphs debunk the truss failure theory. Thus it is difficult to imagine that Shermer's false attribution of the melted steel straw man argument to 911Research was accidental.

Shermer Parrots Debunked Fantasies

Following his misrepresentation of 911Research, Shermer gives a short narrative of the truss failure theory, featuring M.I.T. Materials Science Professor Thomas Eagar, who gave us the zipper and domino theory. Shermer cites Eagar's article in the Journal of the Minerals, Metals, and Materials Society, failing to mention that 911Research had long ago debunked that same article. Shermer, not one for facts, exaggerates the article's already fantastic claims, stating that "rugs, curtains, furniture and paper" ignited by the jet fuel "raising temperatures above 1,400 degrees F and spreading the inferno throughout each building." Compare Shermer's description of the "inferno throughout each building" to the photo on the right showing the South Tower moments before its collapse.

The claim that the Twin Towers were destroyed by controlled demolition is the only one that Shermer attacks, which he does with the following rendition of the zipper and domino theory:

Temperature differentials of hundreds of degrees across single steel horizontal trusses caused them to sag--straining and then breaking the angle clips that held the beams to the vertical columns. Once one truss failed, others followed. When one floor collapsed onto the next floor below, that floor subsequently gave way, creating a pancaking effect that triggered each 500,000-ton structure to crumble.

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Marc Jeric| 8.26.09 @ 10:21PM

NY towers fell down because our eco-nazis forced the constructor to switch from asbestos (4-hour protection) to plastic fire protection (one-hour protection) after the construction reached the 60th floors. Long-fiber asbestos is totally innocent of any lung desease. Steel does not have to melt to lose all its resistance (there is an ignoramus above saying so).
ACORN brownshirts financed by the $9 billion from Abu Hussein's stimulus bill will demonstrate, disrupt, damage, beat up, even kill his enemies. To understand their role it should be mentioned that "community organization" in the defunct USSR were called "soviets".

Blogengeezer| 8.26.09 @ 10:59PM

My energy research company affiliation as a lab and field technician, using a large laboratory thermal generator (Thermogenics) with many various controlled combustibles, easily brought temperatures in excess of 1400 degrees (stainless steel K sensors melted), by using a simple system of fan forced ventilation. O2 is a perfect 'enhancer' of combustion temperature if anyone does not understand the principle of "The cutting torch" or the concrete blasting, air/plazma arc 'drill'. Actual work in the Lab, is the best teacher of 'Theory' busting.

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Sue| 8.27.09 @ 12:02AM

To Organized Better than you: I'm sick of my hard earned tax dollars going to you lazy, no count bottom dwellers; your sole purpose in life is to loot from the producers the fruits of their labors.

All of you sicken me. Each and every one. If we had politicians with spines, crap like you wouldn't see a dime of our tax dollars. As it is, instead of patriots for congressmen, we have a bunch of no count A$$hs. Aren't you the lucky dog who eats crap and poops all over the taxpayers!

Yea, and all those "duplicate" voter registration cards didn't overwhelm the poor county clerk prior to election day either did they?

Your organization stinks to high heaven; after looting the Country what are you going to do for support?

Smitty| 8.27.09 @ 2:31AM

Now we've got the freakin' Truthers on this blog. Go away you azzwipes!

RobbieK| 8.27.09 @ 1:50PM

Nevada a "key battleground State?". ROFLMAO! The problem with Nevada is the "Locusts". A locust is a disgruntled Democrat who moves to an actual prosperous State and keeps voting Democrat. As if their votes that trashed where they came from will surely help the flourishing meadow they move into. Stop voting Democrat, LOCUSTS!

pragmatist101| 8.27.09 @ 3:29PM

Really good comments and I think one of the main reasons this great country was turned over to a blatent lying soicialist was ACORN and it's band of corrupt agencies.

But here's my question: how do WE Americans stop funding them with OUR tax dollars? I mean, isn't there a huge conflct of interest here? Any constitutional lawyers out there that could help bring a case against these corrupt thieves? Could we bring a class action suit agaisnt them eg., ACORN vs the people.

tupre| 8.27.09 @ 6:11PM

this article is so incredibly poorly researched and WRONG. And the comments section is an embarrassment.

ACORN is sooooo not what you guys seem to think it is.

Sad. This is what is passing as news.

Ken (Old Texican)| 8.27.09 @ 7:04PM

Tupre...and ilk

No ...you are right... ACORN is a bunch of drug dealer arsewipes wih a day job at minimum wage.
Heh!

pragmatist101| 8.27.09 @ 7:28PM

tupre - this may be an emabrrassment to you since ACORN has been caught w/ their pants down but the reality is we're on to them and their ilk. No, it's time for us to cut them off. they've been flying under the radar one day too many.

Brian| 8.27.09 @ 9:00PM

ACORN will just change its name and Repubs and Dems will fund it just as before, go back to sleep.

Patriot| 8.27.09 @ 11:19PM

I don't think too many Americans are in the mood for snoozing right now. I know I'm not.

pragmatist| 8.27.09 @ 11:43PM

Brian - you're simply a moron. the sleeping giant has awakened.

Patriot - I agree with you.

Brian| 8.28.09 @ 12:59AM

Well I hope ppl are waking up but the last politician to try to stop Gov funding of leftist groups was the late great Jesse Helms 30 years ago. He failed! Dems said it was mean spirited to stop funding so Repubs folded like a cheap (Big) tent.

Josie| 8.28.09 @ 5:06AM

Brian, this is our last chance. We fall asleep again and we will lose our country. What side are YOU on?

Louis| 8.31.09 @ 1:30AM

Great article thank you. Wish that it would get published in every rag across America so we can stop their stimulus money that they are getting .. some 6 billion dollars.

makes me sick that they get taxpayers dollars to usurp our votes.

Suzanne| 9.5.09 @ 12:12AM

I am astounded at the level of ignorance demonstrated in these comments. Spewing venom and hatred is easy, researching the facts takes time and a higher level of intellectual function you people clearly do not possess. You will believe anything fox news, glen beck, spectator and rush spew out, with no sourcing of their alleged "facts." If you only knew how the corporate elite laugh at people like you and marvel at how easily they can convince you to vote against and fight against your own best interests. Yes gentlemen, I can tell most of you are male, you are patsies for the republican corporate elite who work feverishly to make sure they get richer and people like us work like dogs to break even. Take a moment to think it through.....

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ExZonie| 9.12.09 @ 1:43AM

Gee Suzanne, name-calling and hysteria... very convincing. Is that all you got? Oh wait, there are all those delicious tapes coming out of Baltimore, Washington DC, and more to come out on Monday. It's a beautiful sight to see. Rejoice! ACORN is going down and Rathke is going to prison!

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