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Speaker Pelosi thinks she’s also been misled by certain Democrats.
Senior House Democrat leadership aides say that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi believes that members of the Central Intelligence Agency aren’t the only people who have been lying to her. “Since she stepped into the middle of this waterboarding controversy she’s become almost paranoid about her own people,” says one leadership aide, who has worked with Pelosi, most recently in strategizing about House efforts on health care reform.
According to the aides, Pelosi believes that some junior members of her leadership team, as well as moderate — or “Blue Dog” — Democrats, have been “aiding and abetting” the media in pursuing her ever-changing story on whether she was briefed about or had knowledge of the CIA enhanced interrogation techniques.
At least three separate documents developed by the CIA and shared with both the Department of Justice and the White House have detailed meetings and briefings in which Pelosi or her proxies were informed of the techniques, who they were used on, and whether these techniques were successful.
Also, according to long-time DOJ officials with knowledge of the meetings, Pelosi, her staff, and senior House Democrats were briefed on ongoing anti-terrorist activities after the September 11th attacks. “We [DOJ/FBI] were up there all the time, so was the CIA and Defense, as well as the White House, talking to them,” says the DOJ staffer. “To say that they were not informed simply isn’t true. They may not have liked what they heard, but they knew about it.”
Not only that, but Pelosi, along with Rep. Henry Waxman, were also being briefed by Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency employees sympathetic to the Democrats’ position on the Iraq War, Guantanamo, and the CIA’s secret holding facilities overseas.
“People seem to be forgetting that it was people who were working with Democrats and outside left-wing groups that leaked the secret prisons story and did so coordinating with Democrats in Congress for maximum effect,” says a Senate Republican aide on the Intelligence Committee. “Some of the Democrats in Congress were getting more detailed briefings than some Administration officials. My guess is that Pelosi knew about as much as Vice President Cheney did, whether she wanted to or not.”
Now Pelosi, say some House leadership aides, is unsure of whom she can trust in her inner circle. “She believes that [House majority leader Steny] Hoyer is working against her behind the scenes, or someone supportive of Hoyer. She thinks some of the freshmen aren’t terribly supportive and are giving the media negative comments about her to keep feeding the story,” says the aide.
These and other Blue Dog Democrats have been growing increasingly restless about the upcoming legislative agenda on health care and energy, in that their votes could harm them with voters back home. They were expecting a lighter legislative calendar, but are now facing votes on issues that will increase government spending…again, as well impose energy-use and environment penalties that could adversely affect businesses and employment in their districts.
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Nick| 5.18.09 @ 6:37AM
This is deeeelicious!
San Fran Nan is walking the corridors of the capitol like Julius Ceasar in the Senate, waiting for her colleagues to stab her.
Meanwhile, B.O. has increased troops in Afghanistan, is conducting Predator strikes in Pakistan, kept President Bush's Defense Secretary, hasn't closed Gitmo, will continue to use "harsh" interrogation techniques, won't go after the telecom's, listened to the MILITARY and won't release pictures the ACLU wants, and hasn't left Iraq.
What was the change you bleeding heart liberals voted for again?
Nick| 5.18.09 @ 6:40AM
And it's only May!
Imagine where we'll be at the end of the year. I predict a Merry Christmas for conservatives everywhere!
greenman| 5.18.09 @ 6:41AM
Ohhh, poor Nancy. How long do you all think this will take to get her off the hill? Will she take that last trip at our expense on her big plane back to the city of fruits and nuts? Will she go gently into that good night? Go! Just go!
Wretched woman.
Bill| 5.18.09 @ 7:02AM
What a air head. She should never been Speaker in the first place. But just think of the problem for her husband. If you were married to this woman would you want her to come back home and bake cookies?
The Lord does work in mysterious ways.
Dr. Chemical| 5.18.09 @ 7:09AM
Not long before speaker of the house becomes seeker of her spouse!
TJK| 5.18.09 @ 7:35AM
One can only hope that the storm clouds keep swiling around her (admittedly, by her own doing) causing her to step down before she can do serious damage to the health care industry. It's a dream I have....
drudge ette obama| 5.18.09 @ 7:36AM
If she had been a man, she'd be out. Democrats must weigh kicking out the first woman Speaker of the House against the damage she is wreaking on her party. If lying to the Congress of the United States, her passive aggressive response to the question whether the CIA lied to her, is so aggregious, then why doesn't she have a big hearing?
Women like Pelosi fuels the fire that women don't handle big jobs well. Keep her in the job and push the envelope every chance you can.
drudge ette obama| 5.18.09 @ 7:36AM
If she had been a man, she'd be out. Democrats must weigh kicking out the first woman Speaker of the House against the damage she is wreaking on her party. If lying to the Congress of the United States, her passive aggressive response to the question whether the CIA lied to her, is so aggregious, then why doesn't she have a big hearing?
Women like Pelosi fuels the fire that women don't handle big jobs well. Keep her in the job and push the envelope every chance you can.
Old Navy Chief| 5.18.09 @ 7:40AM
Since the day this preening old prunish biddy started lecturing us about doing things "for the children" I have been quietly praying for her to have a train wreck of a failure. She is the epitome of hypocracy and it will be a blessed day when the wheels of the Obama Express grind her into oblivion. This country will never be healed with her in power. She is truly the Red Queen from Alice in Wonderland...
Richard Baker| 5.18.09 @ 7:45AM
From the picture provided, she obviously needs more Botox and a trip to her plastic surgeon.
aware| 5.18.09 @ 7:53AM
Now at least, the deer in the headlights look FITS!
aware| 5.18.09 @ 7:55AM
And remember, no matter how bad it gets, out there somewhere there is a MISTER Pelosi!
jim rice| 5.18.09 @ 8:00AM
It's conjecture, of course, but I too believe that Nancy knew plenty and knew it for a long time. Maybe not... MAYBE... but now she's become a lightning rod, and her ability to be an effective leader is greatly greatly greatly diminished.
She's still nowhere near as downright evil and conniving as dick cheney, but she also needs to politely bow out of the spotlight and allow some real leaders to take her place.
Aaron| 5.18.09 @ 8:29AM
Someone pour a bucket of water on this witch. The House Dems are quickly grinding her into ruin and the O team will sweep the crumbs under the rug. The worst part about her leaving will be her endless clucking on the talk shows.
Curly Smith| 5.18.09 @ 8:37AM
I don't think Ms. Pelosi is in any danger. I'm certain that she can truthfully testify that she doesn't know anything about torture, the economy, history, fossil fuels, national defense, or any other topic. She couldn't buy a clue if she had a voucher and her chauffeur took her to the Clue Store. It's one of those rare cases where the Representative fully and completely represents their constituency.
TJ| 5.18.09 @ 8:50AM
Keep her where she is! She is doing all the work for us!
Truth to Power| 5.18.09 @ 9:18AM
Skunks like Pelosi and jim rice put their political party first and their country somewhere down the line. I believe jim knew plenty as well but grandstanded at his country's expense. jim shouldn't lecture on evil. I believe he gets a good dose of it everyday when he looks in the mirror.
jim rice| 5.18.09 @ 9:23AM
No, Ignorant. I do not have a political party. The Democrats can be just as bad as the Republicans have been over the last 8 years. Pelosi is just another example. Power corrupts, yes... but when you start getting together in exclusive groups and consolidating that power, it corrupts even more. This country works when it works for everyone. Not just when it looks like one group's specific narrow-minded vision.
Fred| 5.18.09 @ 9:33AM
Too bad no one made her prove the hateful, vicious remarks she has made over the last 3 years! She would be proven wrong, again. Have you contacted your representatives and let them know your thoughts on Pelosi's treason? congress.org -the White House? And the speaker herself?
Don| 5.18.09 @ 9:36AM
Gee! You don't think the Democrats are starting to have second thoughts about electing her Speaker, do you?
GB| 5.18.09 @ 10:11AM
Pelosi is a liberal democrat. Nothing will happen to her. The MSM and her party will cover for her just like they always do. Probably 75 percent of the Country doesn't even know who she is. Welcome to America 2009.
William| 5.18.09 @ 10:17AM
The only problem with her ouster is that any replacement will be more competent, intelligent, attractive and likeable. The net effect would strengthen the Democrats in the House.
JAck | 5.18.09 @ 10:33AM
GB, you are unfortunately correct. Most of this country gets their news from the Comedy Network.
Chet| 5.18.09 @ 10:55AM
Wasn't the term "frog-stepping" used by the Socialists ( insert name of ANY democrat here ) when describing how they intended to oust Karl Rove with great pomp/pageantry ??
I wonder how well Pelosi "frog-steps" ?
Waxman could use a dose of it too....
Louis Jenkins| 5.18.09 @ 10:59AM
Some of the writers on this blog hope Nancy will self destruct on this issue. Those with any kind of insight have preceived her to be a bungling biddy under the right circumstances. But she will not lay down and die over this bump in the road, her cronies and co-horts will not let it happen. The Libs will gather around and support her no matter how much of a "screw-up" or liablity she becomes. You can rail against the liberals, but they will not abandon their own nor the power that comes with it.
Roy| 5.18.09 @ 11:00AM
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
round and round,
round and round
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
All round the Hill.
Pete| 5.18.09 @ 11:15AM
I am guessing she crossed the boss on something and in true Chicago style, he is letting her twist in the wind for it. She is going to have to pull a Lewinsky to get back in his good graces and get saved.
Anthony| 5.18.09 @ 11:20AM
Wow! Do the folks at FDA know that extended botox injections causes paranoia and dementia?
These Democrats are worse than complete jokes, they are a national disgrace. This woman is incompetent, stupid and sclerotic in her leftist hegemony. She has impuned the CIA, who would not have betrayed her, as it did Bush, but for her big mouth. She needs to be removed from office entirely. That said, paranoid people do have enemies, and if you're surrounded by swine like Waxman, Hoyer, et al, you damn well had better be looking over your shoulder. I say, she needs to be waterboarded to see what she knew and when she knew it.
But the circus continues daily with these Dems, Biden discloses a secret location for the V.P., Obama tells us to find common ground on abortion.
If it wasn't for the MSM covering for these fools, they'd be extinct.
Dustoff| 5.18.09 @ 11:29AM
They won't fire her. If they did, it would be admiting she doesn't belong there.
I say let her stay. It will hurt the dem's as she makes more and more mistakes.
Igor Marxomarxovich | 5.18.09 @ 11:30AM
Old Russian saying...You can tell same lie 1000 time(Ms.Pelosi) but not change truth!
Difference between USSR Communist media and USA "mainstream media"
In Russia government make media say what they want - even if lie.
In USA "mainstream media" try make government what they want - even if lie..
.....eventually they become same thing?!
I Igor produce Obama Birth Certificate at www.igormaro.org
Don't Get Your Hopes Up| 5.18.09 @ 11:47AM
The mantra of the Democratic Party is: Power uber alles. This will disappear like a fart in the wind.
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Michael Tomlinson| 5.18.09 @ 11:52AM
Why do people keep calling the liberal Blue Dogs "conservatives or moderates?" These two faced lying Democrats have consistently voted the radical Democrat party line. No Democrat is a moderate or conservative. They are either lying liberals like the Blue Dogs or radicals like BO and Pelosi (who all the Blue Dogs supported and voted into office). It is time for self proclaimed conservatives to quit carrying the Democrat party's water and trying to make out that any of them are conservatives or moderates.
As for Pelosi she's just a symbols of the corruption of the Democrat party. Whether she's speaker or not spending will be out of control (where are all the gutless so-called fiscal conservatives who bitched at Bush and Republicans they're awfully quiet now when spending is totally out of control), taxes will go up, national security will be imperiled, unemployment will continue to skyrocket, wages will shrink for working Americans, prices for commodities will rage out of control and overall the American people's standard of living will be in the crapper. And the Blue Dogs will be voting for all of BO's BS!!!!!!!!
Michael L. Hauschild| 5.18.09 @ 12:16PM
Anthony,
I disagree in your assessment of Nancy Pelosi being paranoid, dementia yes, paranoia no. As a matter of fact the only thing she has been right about lately is the fact that everyone actually is out to get her.
JCP| 5.18.09 @ 12:44PM
This is what happens when an extremist doesn't play nice & has delusions of self importance. She just happens to be a democrat but the republicans have their fair share too. She is a powerful proponent of socialized medicine. If she gets out of the picture, BO will have fewer helpful weasels in Congress. How do you get rid of weasels?--------give them a loaded varmit gun & watch them shoot themselves off in the mouth. It seems they need very little help from others.
oldguy| 5.18.09 @ 1:14PM
How long before she plays the skirt card?
Stan Redmond| 5.18.09 @ 1:18PM
I hope she stays on and have complete faith the democrats will support her bid to stay in power. Pelosi was "installed" as an affirmative action candidate for the historic nature of the first woman speaker of the house. They can't depose Nancy because they will be admitting these affirmative action decisions don't work. And I hope she keeps on talking as the head of the democrat party. When your enemy is making a collasal mistake get out of the way and let them destroy themselves.
Daisy| 5.18.09 @ 1:44PM
Well, at the least the Blue Dogs are good for something! How great if they are sabotaging her behind the scenes--there must be a God! Nazi Pelosi the skunk.
ds80| 5.18.09 @ 2:05PM
Gee, I hope Karl Rove has a front-and-center seat to watch Nancy Pelosi get frog-marched out of the House.
Culture of corruption, indeed: she's in, way over her knickers.
NavyBrat| 5.18.09 @ 2:05PM
The questions posed here are good ones. Does the party let her stick around because to bounce her would be an admission of their hubris? Or, do they bounce her because, just when they think this Botox ruined crone couldn't say anything ELSE that could possibly be as stupid as what she's said in the past, she does it again. Even the normally in-the-tank press smells blood in the water. If her little drama continues off the rails, she could very well become the liability the Dems fear & the one that conservatives have been looking for next year. I'm not sure which possibility is more likely. Any opinions?
Northern Rebel| 5.18.09 @ 2:24PM
I am a proud American conservative, who loves the Red Sox. I have friends who are liberal, and friends who love the Yankees. (UGGHH)
The difference is, if the Yankees win the world series, the country doesn't go down the tubes!
Sometimes I wish I could install a thinking mechanism into my liberal friends brains, 'cause they are not dumb, just emotional, and ignorant
of how evil liberalism is.
The trouble is, most of them don't even know what a liberal is, and what affect they have on their lives. They see Nancy Pelosi as a champion for women in politics, and Chris Dodd as a statesman! (UGGHH)
Thanks to talk radio, and mags like the Spectator, at least we have a place to meet, if not to convince liberals, and Yankee fans, about the error of their ways!
Peter McGrath| 5.18.09 @ 2:43PM
Pelosi has tacked left too hard and too fast, with many of her colleagues grabbing barf bags out of nauseous fear of their heinies getting booted out of Perk-land. Hence, our feckless friends on the left aren't in a hurry rallying to her. She's like a mirror, holding up the ugly face of hypocisy to each member of her corrupt caucus. They don't like what they see. Who would?
The CMC (Chief Moral Coward) certainly wouldn't mind seeing her replaced with a more reliable (and less ideologically myopic) graft-monger like Hoyer - who'll certainly play ball to the center (or do whatever else it takes) to ensure the Dems don't capsize.
ben| 5.18.09 @ 3:14PM
So Pelosi is now paranoid of her Democratic Party mates stabbing her in the back. Well, she would know the character and integrity of Dems better than anyone.
1Freeman| 5.18.09 @ 3:29PM
Scorched Earth: This witch will leave office only after the rest of the Nation has burned at her feet. Unless she is actually impeached she will stay whewre she is shouting about the injustice of it all. You all are talking like she will take the honorable road once it gets bad enough. But... SHE HAS NO HONOR and will stay until the bitter end. May it come soon.
Anthony| 5.18.09 @ 3:43PM
Michael; I did concede the fact that paranoids like Pelosi do have enemies like Waxman, Hoyer, et al.
To Northern Rebel: You're batting 500, not bad, maybe the Red Sox should insert you into the lineup since Big Poppi ain't pop'n.
NavyBrat| 5.18.09 @ 3:43PM
Some words of wisdom from an original conservative:
"A bureaucrat is the most despicable of men, though he is needed as vultures are needed, but one hardly admires the vultures whom bureaucrats so strangely resemble. I have yet to meet a bureaucrat who was not petty, dull, almost witless, crafty or stupid, an oppressor or a thief, a holder of little authority in which he delights, as a boy delights in possessing a vicious dog. Who can trust such creatures?"...Marcus Tullius Cicero
This sums up most of the spineless charlatans in our current government nicely. I'll bet ole Cicero is just shaking his head saying, "I told you so."
Alas, we've forgotten the history of how such unchecked power can lead a country to ruin. Cicero had something to say about THAT too:
"Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. If no use is made of the labors of past ages, the world must always remain in the infancy of knowledge."...Marcus Tullius Cicero
Sounds like the liberal/Dem mindset to me, don't you think?
Paul Milenkovic| 5.18.09 @ 3:47PM
This is all well and good, but who took the frozen strawberries?
jim rice| 5.18.09 @ 4:17PM
sounds like the mindset of most of today's politicians. Ascribing it to liberals only is just close-minded. Americans, in general, can't see past their own lifetimes. That's capitalism for you.
NavyBrat| 5.18.09 @ 4:30PM
I didn't describe the first quote as only applying to liberals. And I hardly think capitalism keeps people from looking past their own lifetimes. The policies of the current crop of liberals, with regards to education & general culture, is "capitalism bad, social & economic justice (socialism), good." Really? Last I checked, this country was founded on the principles that evolved into capitalism. Now, I realize one could make the argument that there hasn't been "true capitalism" since the Federal Reserve Act, but what we have going on is fascism in the economic arena & socialism/Marxism on social & cultural issues. So, yes, Jim. Keep on bemoaning the evils of capitalism. Too bad everything else has resulted in the deaths of MILLIONS of people in the name of "social & economic justice." That is what happens when government tries to legislate outcomes & pick winners & losers, as they have been doing. Il Duce would be proud.
rachel| 5.18.09 @ 4:32PM
Nancy (The Wicked Witch of the West) is a mental case....this comes as no surprise to the people of California she "represents". She has alot of skeletons in her closet...she's corrupt and a liar. Lots of dirty real estate deals....just like the Clintons (and Obama). Must be a Democrat thing...to lie & cheat in order to hyper-prosper in real estate.
kwinterkorn| 5.18.09 @ 4:56PM
So Nancy P joined the witch hunt (for Bush Admin officials) only to discover that she is one of the witches. For appreciators of the Human Comedy this is rich indeed. As a conservative 0ne must hope she is still Speaker going into the 2010 elections.
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Big J| 5.18.09 @ 5:06PM
(whispers) Psssst: Hey Nancy. If you think everyone is out to get you, they probably are.
Couldn't happen to a nicer girl.
BTW: Pete, you owe me a keyboard. The visual on "Lewinsky"? Yuk! Usually I just throw up in my mouth a little, but it was all out up-chuck this time!
GW| 5.18.09 @ 5:38PM
Gds, leave her where she is. The longer she stays there, the easier the win for the GOP in 2010 and 2012!
republigirl| 5.18.09 @ 5:45PM
Looks like Nancy is in over her head, kind of a deer in the headlights sort of thing. She's perhaps the most annoying, irritating woman in DC. Resign, Nan, go home and retire, you won't be missed even by your own party.
Marc Jeric| 5.18.09 @ 6:43PM
Please Democrats - keep that "salon communiste" in power, as the French say. That rich b**ch is a typical result of affirmative action in politics - loud lyar, "compassionate", demeaning us ordinary Americans as "extremists", with illusions of grandeur (Air Force One plane for her weekend trips to San Francisco). Let us keep her in power - it is only 3-1/2 years more!
Nick| 5.18.09 @ 7:09PM
Let's be clear about one thing, San Fran Nan is Speaker of the House for one reason: She bought and paid for it fair and square!
Her PAC doled out money to other House democrats throughout the 1990's. She spent alot of time raising money for her PAC and for fellow dem's. That is how one gets to the top in the democrat party.
Nick| 5.18.09 @ 7:16PM
AHHHHHH!
I had Chris Matth-spews on, and thought he had a Spock on, and that he was dying!
It was just Rosa DeLora. Yuk!
Nick| 5.18.09 @ 7:18PM
That should be "... he had Spock on,..."
DaveS| 5.18.09 @ 9:01PM
Pelosi is not in immediate danger - we are! She's President if Obama and Biden go bye-bye. As Theoden said in 'The Two Towers,' "How did it come to this?"
DaveS| 5.18.09 @ 9:06PM
Release the memos - in full! Then we'll find out if she now opposes the then-successful effort to ward off a west coast 9/11-style attack - maybe of HER San Francisco district. Now, would that be the irony of the century?
Angel| 5.18.09 @ 9:50PM
Nick, that's what you get for watching 'tingle up my leg' on PMSNBC.
Michael L. Hauschild| 5.18.09 @ 9:50PM
I believe the term is "frog marching," at least that is what the drill sergeants refereed to it in basic training. I would have traded it for waterboarding any day.
Tom Paine| 5.18.09 @ 10:03PM
Michael L Hauschild --
If you served in the Army it was in some ate up pogue outfit. You wouldn't be able to withstand three seconds of stress positions, let alone water-boarding, you jackass. Stop bragging.
Michael Tomlinson| 5.18.09 @ 10:54PM
To Tom Paine. From one who has served in several grunt battalions it is POG (People Other than Grunts) not pogue you liberal twit. As always you have your facts wrong.
RobJ| 5.18.09 @ 11:05PM
I suggest we refer to her as "Antsy Nancy" from now on.
Angel| 5.18.09 @ 11:29PM
Hmmmm. Jeremiah/TP--for months now, you've stated repeatedly that you'd served in the U.S. military. Has M. Tomlinson outted you? You lying little dirtbag, you.
rob mcmillan| 5.19.09 @ 8:58AM
think about this for a moment--as johan goldberg in national review last week stated,steny hoyer as speaker will make the trains run on time and be less of a lightening rod---peloise is exactly who we want to run against in 2010---she is the gift that keeps on giving
Brian| 5.19.09 @ 10:04AM
Just claim you are retarded Nancy, that's one excuse that both Democrats and Republicans can buy.
Worst Speaker of the House, ever. Corrupt, incompetent and dumb as a box of rocks to boot.
Roscoe| 5.19.09 @ 1:29PM
Milenkovic; good one!
cab404| 5.19.09 @ 11:05PM
Clinton, Kennedy, Murtha, Dodd, Frank, Reid, Durbin, Schumer, the Other Clinton, Leahy, Byrd, Rangel, the list goes on and on. All believe themselves honorable and worthy of the public trust. Why on earth does anyone think Pelosi will resign?
lynnrockets | 5.20.09 @ 12:34AM
BUSH TROOP
(sung to the theme of “F Troop”)
The dawn of the Iraq War was near
When coincidentally
Cheney and Bush got the limits pushed
And commenced torturous brutality.
The methods employed often maimed and killed
Which pleased Cheney’s vicious group.
The waterboard trick both chilled and thrilled
Nobody was appalled they were called Bush Troop.
With testicle bites and really bright lights
Their victims sure took a lickin’
From draft dodging war hawks
Who are just chickens.
When killing and maiming get them down
They know their morale can’t droop.
As long as they own old D.C. Town
They are sure to resume with a bang and a boom
Bush Troop.
lynnrockets| 5.20.09 @ 2:45AM
Nervous Nasty Nazi Pelosi--now that's alliteration we all can appreciate.
lynnrockets| 5.20.09 @ 2:48AM
My head's up my @ss--that's why I've got that stinkin' feelin'.
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