But he turns prim on the CIA.
If achieving world peace required torturing a single baby, asks a character in Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov, would it be worth it?
“Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them peace and rest at last, but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature — that baby beating its breast with its fist, for instance — and to found that edifice on its unavenged tears, would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell the truth.”
The liberalism that Barack Obama seeks to complete answers Dostoyevsky’s question with an emphatic yes. What is Obama’s abortion-on-demand-forever policy but the building of a modern American way of life upon the graves of tortured babies? And not just the unavenged tears of one baby but millions of them.
This week, however, Obama did avenge the tears of terrorists. World peace, he said, isn’t worth theirs. He lectured the CIA that “What makes the United States special and what makes you special is precisely the fact that we are willing to uphold our values and ideals even when it’s hard.”
Obama’s prim pontifications about America’s “values and ideals” inspired Chris Matthews and Jack Cafferty, among other deep and careful thinkers, to mull over the question: If torturing terrorists works — as the Obama administration had to admit grudgingly this week — is it okay? No, of course not, the chattering class proudly concluded.
One wonders why. What do they care? Having already accepted abortion and euthanasia — which are nothing more than the expedient killing of the unborn and the elderly — why should the expedient torture of terrorists, a lesser evil, trouble them? Oh, that’s right: the terrorists are guilty and the guilty under the ministrations of modern liberalism never suffer. Pain in modern life is for the innocent.
Terrorists, we’re told by pro-abortion liberals, suffer excruciating pain while the ejected unborn and euthanized elderly feel nothing. And even if the latter do suffer pain, say these liberals, that pain is worth it. After all, abortion and euthanasia sustain a pleasant and peaceful lifestyle for the strong. Let the dead bury the dead. Or, as the Supreme Court has said, imagine the disruption to America’s way of life if stare decisis in the case of Roe v. Wade disappeared and women couldn’t plan their careers and futures without the expectation of legal abortion for years to come.
Obama’s liberalism is not an opponent of human rights abuses but an embodiment of them. The CIA restricts itself to methods far less ruthless than those permitted by the platform of the Democratic Party. When will Obama bring his own platform into line with the Geneva Accords?
It is a little late in the day for Obama to worry about America’s moral reputation. Resisting evil even “when it is hard” hasn’t interested liberalism for at least four decades. It rests on an ideology of expedient evil and crass utilitarianism.
With St. Paul, Western civilization, before modern liberalism ransacked it, said: “One may not do evil so that good may result from it.” But then modern liberalism came along and reversed the formulation and now insists in the case of everything from therapeutic cloning to killing unborn children to dehydrating the elderly that one should do evil so that good may come from it.
Obama only now rediscovers the Christian ethic for terrorists, even as he weaves the “fabric of human destiny” with the tissue of tortured children.
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Obama’s Torture Policy for the Unborn links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Merlin Perkins| 4.23.09 @ 8:15AM
Not only terrorists, but convicted, murdering thugs are protected. This is another proof that liberals/socialists are irrational.
Jon B| 3.13.10 @ 6:14AM
Obama's restoring of funds for pregnancy prevention measures in the world's poorest countries reduced abortions by 10's of millions in the next 8 years. Republicans lie about the Mexico City Policy by falsely claiming it funds abortions, etc. It's been illegal for US $'s to fund abortions overseas since 1973, but we DO fund pregnancy prevention measures, emergency field birth kits, etc.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_wrld.htm
1993: Repeal of the funding ban: President Clinton felt that private, foreign organizations should be able to receive USAID funding for that part of their programs that involved pregnancy prevention, even though they used their funds raised elsewhere to finance abortions or to appeal for abortion reform. On 1993-JAN-22, his second day in office, he rescinded the executive order.
2001: Reinstatement of the funding ban: On 2001-JAN-22, during his first day in office, President George W. Bush reinstated the funding ban for family planning programs run by agencies that also provide abortion services out of their own funds. His rationale was somewhat confusing. He wrote to the U.S. Agency for International Development: "It is my conviction that taxpayer funds should not be used to pay for abortions or advocate or actively promote abortion, either here or abroad." But no such funds have ever been granted. Existing legislation prevents foreign grants from being used to fund abortions or provide abortion counseling.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0126-05.htm
January 26, 2001: Family planning research groups, such as the Alan Guttmacher Institute, last year said that if US funding levels were restored to the $540 million (from $425 million), the following would happen: Nearly 12 million more couples in developing countries would gain access to modern methods of contraception.
There would be 4.3 million fewer unintended pregnancies, 1.5 million fewer unintended births, 500,000 fewer miscarriages; 2.2 million fewer abortions each year; 8,000 fewer deaths from unsafe abortions, 7,000 fewer deaths from other causes related to pregnancy and 92,000 fewer deaths of infants.
Bush cut funding on 1-22-2001, then cut it some more in 2002, so it was roughly 1/2 or just over $200 million. However, some of it was restored because of his 2003 Africa/Aids program, which he didn't fully fund either. Bush cut aids funding completely in early 2001, and dropped another program in Congress (around $800K more) too. then restarted the program 2 years later promising roughly the same $ amount he prevented in the first place.
Robert Rosencrans| 4.23.09 @ 8:30AM
With hundreds of millions going to support abortions around the globe, the evil messiah Obama will soon rank right up there in the holocaust Hall of Fame.
ame| 4.23.09 @ 8:41AM
The protection of human life is the preeminent obligation of a truly just society. Are we so distant from the holocausts of the 20th Century that we do not remember the horrors of Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, the Killing fields of Cambodia, ad nauseam.
Obama's willingness to allow infants to be killed when they are born after botched abortions is barbarian.
That alone disqualified Obama from any voter of any conscience - any moral center - yet Catholics voted for him anyway and Notre Dame is honoring him. Georgetown capitulated to Obama by covering up the IHS sign at Obama's demand.
Obama has no moral and no ethical core - he is solipsistic and so falsely egotistical as to be a clear danger to any freedom-loving nation. Killing babies is anathema to any civilized nation and any person who condones killing babies is the lowest of cowards. Obama can't get any lower.
YET, Catholics and Catholic institutions by their very actions condone, support, and approve of Obama and his murdering of infants.
Cowards are getting quite a collection of members:
Obama and Catholic Obama voters and Catholic leaders from Notre Dame and Georgetown head the list, as do those who fail to speak out and as Catholics commit the sin of omission, the ultimate sign of a coward.
Add Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and ON AND ON AND ON to the list.
The fact that these people have no shame is the true mark of their dissembling arrogant immoral disingenuous selves.
The USA is in grave danger and all of the above are traitors to her ideals, much less the moral and ethical center of her laws and the divinity of all men marked by their inalienable rights.
The leaders of Notre Dame and Georgetown desecrate the very moral foundations of Catholicism through their impiety by subordinating themselves to Obama - they place him above God.
Christ said: We will know them by their actions.
And so we do and because of that we are all diminished.
Killing innocence is the greatest evil because the innocent have no defense, no voice, no power.
Obama, Catholic leaders, and Catholic Obama voters are all guilty of exactly that.
Crusader| 4.23.09 @ 8:59AM
Ame, of course we don't remember the holocaust. Most Americans have forgotten what the felt on 9/11/01, see first muslim pres as evidence.
You are correct about Catholics. I am ashamed of my Catholic brothers and sisters who voted for this man, who were willing to compromise the life of the unborn (and the born-survivors of abortion/torture) because of a few scraps from the massah's table, or promises of the mythical "hopenchange."
Look, personally, I think America as we know it is over. If we want some type of constitutionally-limited fed govt there is going to have to be a revolution/secession. Sheeple bleat and bleat and bleat but come election time the career politicians promise $ or food stamps or whatever and the sheeple shut up and vote D over and over again. Not that Rs are any better, but why term-limits hasn't been on the ballot is utterly amazing.
The only way I see America turning around outside of armed secession/revolution is:
1 - Term limits for EVERY elected position, local, state, federal. No more career politicians. Go get a real effing job. Maybe if you had some roots down in the constituency you serve, you would be more beholden to them instead of lobbyists.
2 - The PRIVELEGE (it is most definitely NOT a right) of voting is only extended to those with "skin in the game." If you have not paid federal income tax, you can't vote in federal elections.
This would be a good start back to self-sufficiency, accountability, and responsibility.
TennesseeVolunteer| 4.23.09 @ 9:04AM
Ame, as an imperfect Catholic, I am angry at these misguided leaders and mourn for all of the carnage of abortion. We have to concentrate on 'what is right' and make enough noise that good people who are asleep at the wheel will wake up and understand what is being done to the unborn.
I can't speak for the Catholic church but I truly believe that there is an awakening to speak out about what is Right and Good. Your voice is appreciated.
2Anglico| 4.23.09 @ 9:33AM
This man supported the killing of babies who escape the clutches of the abortionist and are "born alive". How sick is that? When a man holds these beliefs, it is LAUGHABLE that we should listen to any of his other musings on "morality".
C Bowen| 4.23.09 @ 9:43AM
...and conversely, this article also reveals how shallow the Pro-War/Pro-Life crowd is.
A pox on both houses.
Tim| 4.23.09 @ 9:46AM
Obama wouldn't understand the question. He's all about power and domination. He has no concern or empathy for weaklings.
Pete| 4.23.09 @ 10:12AM
Only a moron assumes that pro-lifers are pro-war. But those who are pro-abortion are always pro-death. 51 million babies dead--and counting.
Tim| 4.23.09 @ 10:29AM
"Selective" protection and "Selective" declarations of what is torture, is what these people are all about. Just like picking and choosing who gets bailed out or who gets to stay in their homes and who looses them.
Whatever the Czars deem important to them politically at the time is what counts with this group.
They checked Integrity at the door before they took their Oath of office and because they never had any integrity to begin with.
If you need another batch of votes so your hand picked candidate wins you produce another batch of votes. Its that simple. This isn't rocket science.
If killing 51 million unborn humans helps you to maintain your powerbase with certain groups, then so be it.
These people will stop at nothing to maintain control because that's the type of people that they are.
I am not saying this because the Pres is black, brown, white or a combination of all three.
I could care less what color the person is.......
Last time I checked,
Lennin, Stalin, Hitler to name just three socialist/faciast power hungry murderous whores were lilly white as the North Dakota winter snow.
Derek P| 4.23.09 @ 10:32AM
Shocker that that enormous pr!ck David Mathews hasn't spewed his vile on this article. I guess even complete idiots like him can't bring themselves to defend Barry Husein's position on this topic....
C Bowen| 4.23.09 @ 10:42AM
Was that an implicit charge, Pete? Was that an intentional mis-characterization (once called a lie in a better time) or just a lapse in reading comprehension?
If you can point me to Mr.Neumayr's column that argues on the shallowness of a Party that claims to be "pro-life" while launching and supporting a non-just war, perhaps we can flesh out some understanding of our time.
2Anglico| 4.23.09 @ 11:01AM
Unborn, and sometimes born babies, are now equal to third world dictators who use their armies to kill their own populace and invade their neighbors AND threaten world security. Very, very good point! How could ANYONE argue with that? HAHAHAAAAAA
As to a "non-just war" let's see if you can follow this: Iraq 1 was totally "justified" and at the end there was a "cessation of hostilities" IF the maggot Hussein abided by certain conditions. Still with me bowen? And guess what? Mr. Hussein DID NOT abide, thus, when the UN pussed out, we had to finally finish the job. Totally "justifiable".
Jenny | 4.23.09 @ 11:15AM
Barack Obama -- and all bloodthirsty, immoral, babykilling liberals -- will face a righteous and loving God someday, and look into His face and be required to explain their actions. They will cry for the mountains to fall on them in that day.
"The mills of God grind slowly, but they grind exceeding small; though with patience stands He waiting, with exactness grinds He all." God help us.
When I get to heaven, I'm going to ask for my duty station to be the nursery. Then I'm going to hold as many of those precious murdered babies as I can. That may not be theologically sound, but I like the thought anyway.
God bless the United States of America and bring her back to Him.
Bill| 4.23.09 @ 11:16AM
ame,
As Martin Luther would say "this is most certainly true."
Christians have gone into the closet and turned off the light. Yet we are called to shine the light. Christians are guilty for not speaking out as they should. This is not a responsibility from the pulpit but the responsibility of the Christian community to take not only this concern but many others to Washington. Time to stand up and be counted. As the song says.. On Ward Christian Soldier.. We need more than just a tea party..
Jenny | 4.23.09 @ 11:18AM
Oh, and ame? You are my hero.
C . Bowen| 4.23.09 @ 11:21AM
Is English a first language in your household, Mr. 2?
I made no equation, implied or hinted at, and spoke only to the same contradiction, if from a different angle, as Mr. N, who rejected his faith for a few pieces of silver, did with this piece.
You are lying.
As to your, ahem, stab at theology and conservative Just War Tradition, it's embarrassing and underscores the point.
In the American Republican Tradition, certainly a weaker, but nevertheless relevant standard, only Congress can declare war. The Executive thus is required to obtain a declaration of war--which both times, failed to do, settling for much weaker resolutions that amount to abdication. No conservative can support as much--and this is a conservative web site, allegedly.
Tim| 4.23.09 @ 11:52AM
The blood of the innocent children has been shed in the past, by Pharoah and by Herod. This age has seen the slaughter go on far longer and become much greater.
What rough beast...?
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Obama’s Torture Policy for the Unborn « Depravity links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Louis Jenkins| 4.23.09 @ 12:30PM
In the Messiah’s administration being the unborn child of a Terrorist (non-Right Wing terrorist that is) is most beneficial. You automatically have your day in Federal Crimminal Court, and a potential pardon. No birth certificate is needed, just a certificate of live birth. Not only would you be allowed to thrive en-utero and reach birth, but you would be allowed to grow and mature in the family tradition- ie, bomb this, that, the other, until you run out of bombs, limbs, or lives. You might even warrant a photo op political handshake, if you still have a hand, with Obama before carrying on with your inheritance. However, if you are an unwanted American fetus, well, you’re just plain out of luck depending on mom’s need for privacy and the competence of the abortionist. And if the doc ain’t so accurate during the initial procedure he still has a lot of sharp instruments laying around for the coup de grace’. No certificate of live birth for this one. None needed. Abortionists are honorable, and may now stand arm n arm with those who would bomb us into oblivion.
Pete| 4.23.09 @ 12:31PM
I said it's stupid for you to assume that all pro-lifers are pro-war. You made the charge and I called you on it. If you had stated the Republican party, it would have been different--but you specifically said, "Pro-life crowd." You don't know me, and you have no right to judge me. A pox on your house, C Bowen.
JJ JR| 4.23.09 @ 12:58PM
Y'all.
WOW--not that's a cogent analysis detailing the paradoxical evil of Obamanation!!
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Liberals are funny! Outing Valerie Plame bad - Outing CIA interrogators who saved liv links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
C Bowen| 4.23.09 @ 1:40PM
Where did I say that, Pete?
Here is what I wrote: and conversely, this article also reveals how shallow the Pro-War/Pro-Life crowd is.
It should be clear, save for those who are blinded by ideological charlatans, that I refer specifically to those who are pro-war who also call themselves pro-life.
Trusting that you are consistently pro-life which means, in the present jargon, anti-war and pro-life, we are allies, and yet you save your venom for me rather than the charlatans who pretend to be pro-life when it suits their self-esteem?
Strange days.
Gill O'Teen| 4.23.09 @ 2:34PM
I am not pro life. I am pro innocent life. If you threaten me or any member of my family with physical harm, I will gladly put a piece of lead right quickly into your head. If you rape and murder a defenseless girl or boy, I'll gladly inject the poison into your veins. If you mastermind a plot to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings killing thousands, I'll gladly cut you into bite sized pieces and feed your remains to the vultures. If you make an incision in the base of an unborn baby's skull so that you can suck out its brains with a vacuum cleaner, I don't know what I'd do. Such a crime is so vile, that I cannot think of a proper punishment for it.
On another note, speaking of ‘Intact dilation and extraction’, obumah and his lemmings do not believe it causes any pain to the victim. Since it does not cause pain, it cannot be viewed as torture. So I propose that we scrap all the old methods of interrogating terrorists and simply subject them to this procedure. We shouldn't have to query more than one, before all the rest will be singing like canaries. Since it's not torture, who could possibly object? If any should object, we can simply call it a post-term abortion. Since it's an abortion, what could possibly be wrong with its practice?
Pete| 4.23.09 @ 2:48PM
Watch YOUR venom. You assumed I was pro-war. I merely corrected your faulty assumption.
Angel| 4.23.09 @ 2:51PM
Gill O'Teen, I read your posts and they are always highly principled, funny and kind. I just had to tell you that I love you!
Gill O'Teen| 4.23.09 @ 2:56PM
Pete, I assumed nothing about you nor can you show that I did. I was just trying to explain how a person opposed to abortion can also be in favor of self-defense and capital punishment. You are the one making assumptions.
Gill O'Teen| 4.23.09 @ 3:00PM
Angel! Thank you, but please don't tell my wife. I'm not fond of sleeping on the couch.
Ed| 4.23.09 @ 3:04PM
C Bowen,
"If you can point me to Mr.Neumayr's column that argues on the shallowness of a Party that claims to be "pro-life" while launching and supporting a non-just "
Let's see:
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Democrat Senators Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." – Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright, 1998
"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" – Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." –Democrat Sen Tom Daschle in 1998
"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." – Democrat Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
From the Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq:
"Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;
Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;"
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Chaired by Democrat John D Rockefeller
Report on Whether Public Statements Regarding Iraq By US Government Officials Were Substantiated By Intelligence Information.
"[Pre-war administration] statements that Iraq provided safe haven for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and other al-Qa'ida-related terrorist members were substantiated by the intelligence assessments. Intelligence assessments noted Zarqawi's presence in Iraq and his ability to travel and operate within the country.
"Postwar information supports prewar assessments and statements that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was in Baghdad and that al-Qa'ida was present in northern Iraq."
The Duelfer Report (2004)
"[Saddam] wanted to end sanctions while preserving the capability to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction when sanctions were lifted."
"We cannot express a firm view on the possibility that WMD elements were relocated out of Iraq prior to the war."
yo| 4.23.09 @ 3:15PM
the person making the IDIOTIC accusation about "pro war" people" should be ashamed to show his face on this web site. there are none in the pro life community.
there are plenty of people in the pro life movement who are for the gov't doing it's biblical duty and using the sword against evildoers-when they do evil.
if you can't see the difference, pray for understanding, you need it.
Louis Jenkins| 4.23.09 @ 3:16PM
If attorney’s are to be held responsible for legal opinions that led to the water boarding of suspected terrorists and prevented other possible attacks, ie LA, then someone please formulate an excuse why lawyers and judges aren’t responsible for rulings that have led to wholesale death of the unborn?
Gill O'Teen| 4.23.09 @ 3:18PM
Pete, humble apologies. I assumed you were replying to my post since yours appeared right after mine. I missed that you were having a discussion with C Bowen. The regretful error is mine. Mea Culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
Angel| 4.23.09 @ 3:37PM
Gill, nothing shady here; it's a compliment to your wife, she's a lucky woman. We need more strong Conservative men like you. I still love you, though!
Trackback| 4.23.09 @ 3:47PM
The American Spectator : Obama's Torture Polic..., on obama, links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Gill O'Teen| 4.23.09 @ 3:58PM
Angel, once again I thank you, but there are no strong conservative men without equally strong conservative women standing at their side.
Actually, I have it much easier than my wife does. She has patiently been the bedrock of my life for the last 36 years and I have been the weight tied to her ankles.
Oops, I confessed to being a 'weight", guess that subjects me to the obumahdroid fat tax.
KyMouse| 4.23.09 @ 4:01PM
Re: Gill O'Teen at 2:34 p.m.: Speaking of the death penalty, here's my take on it: Let's say a man beats a five-year-old child to death. The child had the right to defend his life with deadly force, but not the strength to do it, and therefore he was murdered. The state then has the right, and the obligation, to act on the child's behalf -- to do what the child would have done if he could have -- and use deadly force against the killer. To me, there is great justice in that.
2Anglico| 4.23.09 @ 4:13PM
Real thoughtful bowen, calling me a liar and non-English speaking. So I'll return the favor. You are the LIAR, there were 2 declarations of war, with a whole lot of donkeys on board for #2. And because you are SO stupid I bet you think any declaration must say "I declare war". Like the card game. Find the words for declaring war in the constitution, I bet you can't.
See also ED's post above, I guess he's lying too, how DARE he quote the donkeys in their own words.
Oh you are soooo boring... go read your own drivel, you DID make a comparison/insinuation at 10:42...
You wouldn't have made it past the receiving barracks.
2Anglico| 4.23.09 @ 4:18PM
And I think I'll point out 1 more thing, many members of our military willingly GIVE their lives so that OTHERS may live. Can you even comprehend that, bowen?
Dead Iraqi Child| 4.23.09 @ 4:46PM
Bush has a lot of blood on his hands. Iraq's government has recorded 87,215 of its citizens killed since 2005 in violence ranging from catastrophic bombings to execution-style slayings, according to government statistics obtained by The Associated Press that break open one of the most closely guarded secrets of the war.
Combined with tallies based on hospital sources and media reports since the beginning of the war and an in-depth review of available evidence by The Associated Press, the figures show that more than 110,600 Iraqis have died in violence since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.
May God have mercy on his soul.
C Bowen| 4.23.09 @ 4:48PM
Ed--
I agree--it was a Leftists War and you have proved it.
All of those pro-abortion types supported invading Iraq.
No real conservatives, certainly, no real so-called pro-lifers supported it.
I rest my case--thank you!
2;
Can you link me to these Declarations of War?
Many thanks. Indeed, many traitors and cowards in Congress, R and D, signed off on the resolution to abdicate their duty.
C Bowen| 4.23.09 @ 5:10PM
Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez 2/2006
GONZALES: There was not a war declaration, either in connection with Al Qaida or in Iraq. It was an authorization to use military force.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/06/AR2006020601359.html
Daisy| 4.23.09 @ 5:36PM
Why wasn't the left bothered by the suffering and deaths of the Iraqi people when they were at war with Iran? Millions died then--why the selective hand wringing now, especially since the Iraqis are finally free?
Sundevil| 4.23.09 @ 5:40PM
Leftists are far better war starters than neo-cons. Hitler was a leftist as was Stalin and they pretty much loved killing in the name of what they considered right. As for America, didn't democrats get us into WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam? At the very least, it's hard to see the Democratic party as peaceniks.
It's always interested to see how leftists rationalize abortion. It's a truly desperate act that is only being condoned further by bad laws enabling minors to have one without parental supervision and/or being able to buy day-after pills.
srpaquette| 4.23.09 @ 6:37PM
I have to turn the tv off when I see O-nothing speak, my stomach turns with every word. He hates America and should be deported to Saudi Arabia where he would feel more at home. I am sure his little daughters will be right at home there: no entitlements, second class citizenship, and marital rape. Try explaining to your little ones why it is important to be raped at will by your husban to be perfect in the eyes of allah. And when they balk at your ideals, you can explain also that if they want to keep their pretty heads they must obey. That will go over like a fart in church, and they will demand to be repatriated back to the U.S.. And he will disown them as he has done toward the U.S.. And I will say "good ridance". WE THE PEOPLE NEVER KNEW YOU.
Gill O'Teen| 4.23.09 @ 6:52PM
Dead Iraqi Child, I'll see your 110,600 dead Iraqis and raise you the 426,271 Americans who died during the 20th Century defending Freedom throughout the world. Keep in mind that the Iraqi people are now free from a criminal despot who enjoyed testing mustard gas on children such as those you describe. The price of Freedom is very high because its enemies are extremely vile.
Casualty stats brazenly stolen from http://www.americanfamilytraditions.com/war_casualties.htm.
John II| 4.23.09 @ 7:48PM
I think most of the energetic responses to the Neumayr piece has lost track of the main point of the piece. Obama and his handlers and lackeys are proponents of deeply immoral public policies. The vacuum such immorality leaves in the human heart has to be stuffed with some kind of substitute for the genuine thing--and so we have the moral preening over "torture" which is not torture at all by any sensible definition.
Where there is little or no real morality, false morality jumps in to fill the emptiness. That's the point--a very old moral insight, by the way, dating back at least to Homer.
Ted| 4.23.09 @ 10:43PM
Don't let your hearts be troubled conservatives. The world is self-correcting, however brutal the self-correcting manifests. "Democrats account for 30% more abortions than Republicans (49% vs. 35%). " See http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005277.
mike| 4.23.09 @ 11:28PM
and again we find the ralling conservatives confused as to how liberals can not see the irony in the 'torturing' of the unborn, but not of terrorists and their ilke. okay let's go through this one more time. the unborn are not murdered. they are aborted. look up the definition. they can be aborted because they are incomplete. they are at a point in which the decision to halt development is nessesary, because the resulting child would go about in a state of suffering. there would be no one to take care of these children. they have very slim chances of being adopted. chances are these children will be left in an abusive household. they will be constantly pondering why no one wanted them. they will be bounced around, murdered when they are born, and develop extensivly dangerous behavioral disorders. and of course by sheer luck, a few will be adopted in to loving homes and families and grow up with nary acare in the world. but still this is a minority. so, there is an alternative. do not have children you can not take care of. now, an observer would say, yeah well okay, fine, but why don't they just not have kids in the first place? right, well lets look at the alternatives Conservatives, advocates for abstinence provide- the message of how not to have sex until you are married. simple enough. the only problem is, this most likely leads to earlier marriages, riskier sex, or is completly ignored. which leads to divorce, broken families, diseases, and yeah pregnencies, which will be covered up , abandoned etc. furthermore, the old saying goes no child asks to be born. this is true. it is not the child's fault that it's parents are either irresponsible lazy, messed up, etc. but ther baby will be punished irregardless. the aforementioned unfonute outcomes mentioned above. now on to the terrorists. torture is all well and good, but your are not gong to get definitive answers. eventually you are going to get extremists who will blow themseves up first chance they get, or kill themselves another way. then the terrorist cell will praise them as heroes and martyrs. also torture sends a clear message about how America deals with it's enemies, which considering that this country is supposed to be an example to others and other countries about how flexible America's capacity to hold up it's morals will be.so inconclusion, we have indivduals that are bound to encounter great hardships that are almost certaintly unbearable versus idiots who will celebrate when one of their own dies. now who exactly would you like not to be in the world, morons who hurt others and believe they are justified through torture/death, or those wo through no fault of their own are about to go through a unimaginable hell. who is more deserving of the release of death? terorists or suffering children of which their are too many to count or aid in any useful way? who is more needing of an end, in pain, in being a prisoner? should the terrorist undergo torture that reinforces their diobolical training? nevermind that death and torture are completly different things. let's focus on the fact that children who have no one immediatly willing to take care of them should not be born, and terrorists who would enjor their torture and relish the ability to provoke anger from civil human beings, do not deserve such gratification, such recognition.
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Nick| 4.24.09 @ 3:33AM
C Bowen,
I'm 100% Pro-Life and I was 100% behind Operation Iraqi Freedom. It was necessary and just.
You need to educate yourself on what a "declaration of war" meant to the Founding Fathers. Did you know that the U.S. has used military force over 2000 times in it's history? Did you also know we have only "declared war" 11 times? How can that be?
Jack Bebe| 4.24.09 @ 3:58AM
He's obviously a Muslim because a has brown skin. How dare he condemn torture because torture and abortion are the same thing. In fact anyone who supports abortion can't have any opinions about anything. Why doesn't Obama just tear up the Constitution and get rid of that pesky SC and their pesky precedents. Where not a fringe element of the Republican party. We are moderates clearly. No way were alienating independants. Where are the communion waifers? I'm hungry.
Debra M| 4.24.09 @ 4:14AM
I have had 3 abortions in my life and to be honest they're not as bad as you people seem to think. The first one hurt a little, but the last two, I don't if it was because I was more stretched out down there, I didn't feel a thing. The baby just slid right out. You should have seen it. It was adorable, with it's little toes and hands. I think it tried to breath, but the doctor threw it away so I couldn't tell. It was cheap to, Medicaid paid for most of it. Anyways, I would totally reccomend it as an alternative to protected sex.
William| 4.24.09 @ 4:34AM
Herod's deeds + Herod's claims = Herod's fate
Stand back and watch.
God is not mocked.
Jack BeBe| 4.24.09 @ 4:38AM
Debra M, your vagina is an abomination, or should I say OBAMANATION! Lord knows all those unbaptized babies are rotting in limbo right now because we didn't get a chance to annoint them with our holy juices, just like all the sodomites who insert the fleshy parts into their Hershy kisses. I bet you're from San Francisco, like Nancy Pelosi, that Jewish shickza who's friends run the IMF and caused this banking crisis with their precious minimum wage.
Debra M| 4.24.09 @ 4:40AM
Wow, I didn't think what I was doing was bad. I could feel the devel inside those babies I swear. I killed those babies for Christ.
Jack BeBe| 4.24.09 @ 4:42AM
What did he sound like? Did he have a barotone voice and and eyes as black as the sands of Mordor?
Debra M| 4.24.09 @ 4:44AM
Hallelujah he did!!! And when he walked, the serpents snare did twinkle twice for he was the lord commeth and leadeth the mice astray into his kingdom. Amen.
Jack BeBe| 4.24.09 @ 4:45AM
Well then I do declare, Debra, my young friend, you made the right choice in killing those there devil babies and sending their souls straight to hell. Man's law is one thing, but God's law, well that's special. STEM CELLS FOR EVERYONE!!
William| 4.24.09 @ 5:38AM
I agree. Abortions are the lords work. If Jesus were born today, he would be aborted...for your sins!
Michael L. Hauschild| 4.24.09 @ 6:51AM
Crusader,
Spot on mate, but go a step farther. Only the military veteran could vote in national elections. That "fourth" branch of government probably will be in charge anyway before this particular cycle crashes to an end amid the debris of gift books from dictators, posters of Che, and ACORN voting lists
Gill O'Teen| 4.24.09 @ 7:50AM
Mike, to put this in simple words that even you might understand, you are wrong. "Fetus" is just NARAL double-talk which when given the liberal translation treatment means "baby". Just like “choice” is NARAL double-talk which when given the liberal translation treatment means "kill babies”. Yes, I know that the child is not yet born, but he has been created. If a human fetus were given a DNA test, the result would prove that it is beyond any shadow of a doubt fully human. Since it is ingesting nourishment and growing, it is alive. Murder is the unnatural termination of a human life when such an act occurs outside of war, is the lawfully administered punishment for a crime, results from an accident as determined by legal or medical authorities or is committed in self-defense. Some abortions do occur naturally, but in the sense of this discussion, abortion is nothing other than the unnatural termination of a human life - murder. And don't give me that rot about abortion being to protect the life of the mother. It's about protecting her lifestyle, and you know it. Don't give me that rot about killing our enemies in war is murder either. Don't give me that rot that the woman’s getting pregnant was an accident. Once a human is created it is endowed by The Creator with certain inalienable rights including the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Abortion denies these children those rights. Your argument simplified says nothing more than that it is proper to kill our babies because their lives are likely to be unhappy. Using this logic is it proper for me to wander around town slitting open the base of the skull and removing the brain of anyone I think might be unhappy? You and your ilk oppose capital punishment in part because there is a chance that the condemned person might in fact be innocent. I concede that point which is why I would only impose a death sentence if there is incontrovertible evidence that the accused is guilty. Let’s give our posterity the same consideration.
C Bowen| 4.24.09 @ 8:26AM
Nick;
How can that be? Are you serious? This is a conservative web site, not a leftwing civics class. The spirit of the Constitution has been violated since the beginning of that era of the American civilization. Numerous cowards and charlatans over the years have abdicated their responsibilities--are you so blind to the answer staring back at you?
The war in Iraq was not just according to Mr. Neumayr's religion--that is not arguable. He was willing to kill not just one baby, but many babies to make Iraq a democracy--not even a deal with the devil for world peace.
Et tu?
2Anglico| 4.24.09 @ 9:01AM
Jesus held up a Roman Centurion as having greater faith than any in Israel. Did he call the Centurion a murderer? Did he tell him to give up his position of authority in the Roman army?
At the cross a Roman Centurion (maybe the same one?) became the first non-Jew to declare publicly, in front of witnesses, that Jesus was the Son of God. Was this Centurion, who probably hacked lots of people to pieces with his Gladius, condemened to hell for his deeds on Earth? I believe the answer is no.
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Ayn Rand| 4.24.09 @ 12:48PM
A right is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man's freedom of action in a social context." The moral standard to be applied, Ayn Rand has shown, is that of man's life and what is "required by man's nature for his proper survival." The fundamental condition for man's survival--the freedom to use his rational faculty to maintain and enjoy his life. Thus, a pregnant woman, like every other individual, has the right to determine her own destiny and the destiny of her body, to choose what constitutes her own best interest and private happiness and to work for its achievement, so long as she respects the same rights in others.
Derek P| 4.24.09 @ 1:36PM
mike:
You disgust me. Too bad you weren't aborted...
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Derek P| 4.24.09 @ 3:15PM
Derek P:
What would jesus say? So now you support abortion? That's not very Christian of you. Listen, you guys have lost the war against abortion. The American people overwhelming have opted for Choice. And as they should. You can't have it both ways, either we live in a free society where people aren't forced to serve other people, or we don't. To suggest that a mother should be forced to carry and care for another is anti-thetical to individual liberty, and sounds more like a Communist police state. No free rides in America, no free lunches. Ayn Rand knew it and to disagree with her is to take the side of the Communists and the Hugo Chavez's of the world. The free market works. When individuals are not forced to care for other people, whether it be the welfare queen or an ungrateful fetus, society benefits. The University of Chicago, that great bastian of free market thought, released a study indicating that abortion is responsible both for a dramatic increase in wealth and a dramatic decrease in crime over the last 40 years. So stop complaining about abortions. It's a dead tissue, I mean dead issue (no pun intended). All you guys are accomplishing is alienating Independants and the moderates of the Republican party. You can't support individual liberty and deny a person that right to choice. A baby doesn't have right to invest their mother's womb. How would you like it if I showed up in your kitchen and refused to leave, and started eating you out of house and home.
Tim| 4.24.09 @ 3:15PM
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. "
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=5&version=31
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David Carlisle | 4.24.09 @ 8:41PM
Thanks for bringing their inconsistencies into focus. Is this not also the same President that ok'd the deadly use of force against Somalian Pirates? Apparently it's OK to pamper convicted criminals and genocidal terrorists but all pirates and unwanted children need to die. The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
David| 4.25.09 @ 9:12AM
You really can't reconcile those inconsistencies? When someone's life is threatened by another, the state is authorized to use deadly force to save them. The state is not authorized to torture people. These are basic legal precepts that grade. One actions is predicated on the common law idea of self-defense and neccesecity and the other deals with the constitutional protection of procedural due process defendants as well as the executive's obligation to "take care" that the laws prohibiting torture are executed under Article II. If you can't wrap your head around those two very different concepts, then I fear for the Conservative movement.
As for the abortion issue, most of the country and the Supreme Court disagree with you. A fetus is not a life and a woman should have the right to choose. Even if Obama wanted to act, he's prohibited from doing so. Regulating state abortion laws is outside his jursidiction (Federalism and non-delegation of legislative powers clause) and SCOTUS has determined the state's can't regulate the issue, at least within the 1st tri-mester. You may argue that he has to ability to appoint "non-activist judges," but I don't know of any judge, including Scalia or Thomas, who would overturn 40 years of precedent and jurisprudence, especially as the public increasingly supports the right of women to choose. It would be unprecedented and the kind of "judicial activism" you conservatives always rage against.
Smitty| 4.25.09 @ 4:00PM
Who gave women the right to 'choose' to kill their children? Why?
Smitty| 4.25.09 @ 4:01PM
Who gave women the right to 'choose' to kill their children? Why?
pete the mediocre| 4.25.09 @ 6:45PM
Mike, of course you're right! We're doing them a favor by murdering them. Why not extend that logic to unwanted and abused children through age 12? Ypou might want to think before you make vacuous posts.
pete the mediocre| 4.25.09 @ 6:46PM
Mike, of course you're right! We're doing them a favor by murdering them. Why not extend that logic to unwanted and abused children through age 12? You might want to think before you make vacuous posts.
Countess55| 4.25.09 @ 10:27PM
OBTW, the largest abortion clinic IN THE WORLD is being built in Houston. "Planned Parenthood" bought a building just South of Univ. of Houston. It is located perfectly between a large African American community and Hispanic communities... Isn't that convenient because they are targeting the minorities.
The BASTARDS!
Tom Paine| 4.25.09 @ 11:44PM
I believe abortion is wrong, but I think the issue is wrongly brought up to excuse torture.
There are a few distinct differences.
One, the state does not march women into abortion clinics to have abortions.
With the torture issue, we have agents of the federal government breaking with American tradition, values, and law and committing acts that are certainly immoral. They are also contrary to what the military deems proper and honorable, and they don't seem to get the results claimed for them.
I understand people's passion about abortion. I don't think it should cloud our thinking about this separate and very important issue. Even if you believe abortion has -- morally -- much more at stake (which would be understandable) -- torture too is a profound moral and ethical problem.
Tom Paine| 4.25.09 @ 11:47PM
Ayn Rand --
You do a service illustrating the shallowness of your heroine's moral thinking. Rand was a poor philosopher, and her cheap rationalism does not account for much of what gives human life meaning and value. Her putative support for abortion is just a symptom of the general failings of her philosophy and the impoverished nature of her moral imagination.
Smitty| 4.26.09 @ 12:07AM
In response to Smittys query, who gave women the right to abortions?: The same people who gave us the right to bare arms, the constitution.
pete the mediocre| 4.26.09 @ 12:30AM
"The same people who gave us the right to bare arms, the constitution."
You mean the Constitution says we don't have to wear sleeves?
I'm afraid the Constitution does not speak to abortion rights, Smitty. It doesn't even speak a right to privacy, yet that is what the Supremes pulled out of thin air in 1972.
Pete's sleeves| 4.26.09 @ 4:58AM
Haha, pete made a joke! Good one pete, mediocre I think, but you already know all about that.
Destiny with Death| 4.26.09 @ 8:32AM
Pro life, argue with the SWINE FLU, see if it makes any difference, argue with Cancer see if it makes any difference argue with HIV AIDS. man has a destiny with DEATH. Argue with Homosexuality, who is listening. You people need to get real, get a dose of reality on planet Earth.
ruffedge| 4.26.09 @ 10:03AM
Mike,
By your logic, Jews held in concentration camps during the holocaust were not murdered, they were concentrated. Look it up in the dictionary. If you want to assume that the term "abort" in no way indicates the destruction of an innocent human life to ease your conscience, then so be it. But no matter how you shake a stick at it, abortion is murder.
Also, by pressing the "Enter" button on your keyboard you can start a new paragraph. It would make reading your post oh so much easier.
ruffedge | 4.26.09 @ 10:15AM
Oh and 'Gil O Teen', I love you too Buddie. But in the good way.....like a brother. I want to make that clear so that neither of our wives toss us on the couch. Both of my brothers and my sister are staunch "progressives" and they insist that the milk man is my real father. Your comments are not only easy to agree with, they're also easy to read. Keep up the good work.
Rod| 4.26.09 @ 5:13PM
Ruffedge, take that faggot shit someplace else. We don't want it here.
Obama don't give a dam | 4.26.09 @ 8:24PM
Your Government plans to murder you, while you are asleep unconcious, while you are wondering about Abortion the rights and wrongs of it. Focus on what you can do for yourself.
You people are being mentally killed every day and most of you are too stupid to notice.
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Karla M.| 4.30.09 @ 4:55PM
Everyone seems to be against abortion, but what percentage of our population adopts the kids that are already suffering on this earth? Why would one want to bring a living thing into this world if it is going to live on the streets or live being abused? And euthanasia can be a release for some. They should have control over their own lives. If living is such a pain that one no longer wants to live who are we to stop them from reaching happiness in their own way? Allowing abortion and euthanasia only offers a choice, it doesn't force anyone to do something. Besides when the Bush administration went to kill the terrorists in Iraq, they not only killed terrorists but plenty of innocent babies as well.
HistoryWriter| 5.1.09 @ 1:41PM
But of course everybody ISN'T against abortion. Only about 25% of the population is opposed to abortion under any circumstances. That being the case, abortion is really a non-issue --- except among some conservatives who still can't understand that they've been marginalized since last November.
Wilson| 5.4.09 @ 6:51PM
For good or bad, abortion is a choice and is legal under American law, torture is not a choice and is illegal under American law. Funny how the Republicans and their "Party of Family Values" while in power for the last eight years never got around to doing squat about abortion, but I don't hear the calls of Bush being a "murderer" or "killer" of unborn babies? Why is that? You don't like the law- get it changed, otherwise, move along. Reagan signed the treaty outlawing torture for any reason, under any circumstances- it's against the law, if Bush didn't like it, he should have changed the law-he didn't- he's guilty of war crimes.
Lee| 5.5.09 @ 12:34PM
51 million babies dead...51 million women emotionally, psychologically, and some even physically scarred forever...aren't liberalists pro-women's rights?
victoria| 5.7.09 @ 7:01PM
as a pro-life Catholic who voted for Sarah Palin and what's his name, I asked every parishioner I encountered post November "did you vote pro-life?"
and I was horrified to find out how many cafeteria Catholics are out there. I only vote pro-life and encourage others to do so. Without protection of life, promises of hopenchange mean nothing.
Martha| 5.8.09 @ 7:50PM
By the way the Evil One was the most enlightend angel until he fell,due to the sin of pride .So when he attack the believers ,through people willing to do his job.He will use all the possible means at hand to" inmobilize" the people of faith .The ones that condem waterboarding should condem abortion. Justice should be equally for ALL.Please don't waiste your time insulting us ,we easily can take it,because we have faith, as simple as that..
TEENAGER | 5.10.09 @ 9:36PM
You are silly. All of you who do not understand that abortion is not about killing babies but choice. I want the choice, and although my mother may not approve of abortion, she applauds Obama's policy because, like him, she wants women to have the choice. Being Pro-Abortion is being Pro-Choice. Being Anti-Torture does not equate to being Pro-"Killing Babies". Torture is against all human ethics. IT ISN'T EVEN EFFECTIVE. There is a reason Obama is in office, and it is to help America recover from policies like the ones you would want.
Kate| 6.15.09 @ 3:38PM
The article makes a number of good points, but I fail to understand the dichotomy here--why is it invariably one side for abortion/against torture, the other side against abortion/for torture? As Catholics we should be against abortion AND torture, no matter, as the author argues, the good that is done. Liberals set my teeth on edge, but even more so, so-called conservatives who do not give whole classes of people (accused terrorists, the convicted) human rights. Dignity is a human right, not one you earn by being "good enough."
This sentence also annoyed me: "women couldn't plan their careers and futures without the expectation of legal abortion for years to come. " He didn't quite say it, but it implies that there is something wrong with a woman planning her career. No, abortion is not a viable choice, but neither should women be denied careers simply because they make the babies. Again, why is it either/or?
elektro | 6.23.09 @ 2:56AM
The article makes a number of good points, but I fail to understand the dichotomy here--why is it invariably one side for abortion/against torture, the other side against abortion/for torture? As Catholics we should be against abortion AND torture, no matter, as the author argues, the good that is done. Liberals set my teeth on edge, but even more so, so-called conservatives who do not give whole classes of people (accused terrorists, the convicted) human rights. Dignity is a human right, not one you earn by being "good enough."
Мавр | 6.23.09 @ 2:57AM
This sentence also annoyed me: "women couldn't plan their careers and futures without the expectation of legal abortion for years to come. " He didn't quite say it, but it implies that there is something wrong with a woman planning her career. No, abortion is not a viable choice, but neither should women be denied careers simply because they make the babies. Again, why is it either/or?
raider_rava | 6.23.09 @ 2:59AM
IT ISN'T EVEN EFFECTIVE. There is a reason Obama is in office, and it is to help America recover from policies like the ones you would want.
vadikrv | 6.23.09 @ 3:00AM
The article makes a number of good points, but I fail to understand the dichotomy here--why is it invariably one side for abortion/against torture, the other side against abortion/for torture? As Catholics we should be against abortion AND torture, no matter, as the author argues, the good that is done. Liberals set my teeth on edge, but even more so, so-called conservatives who do not give whole classes of people (accused terrorists, the convicted) human rights. Dignity is a human right, not one you earn by being "good enough."
Jeanne Therese| 8.5.09 @ 4:24PM
ABORTIONISTS ARE SICKNING....OBAMA, PELOSI,TED KENNEDY, THE CLINTONS. JOHN KERRY AND ANY AND ALL DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS THAT VOTE TO ADD ABORTION TO THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE SICKNING!!! NO MORE ABORTING YOUND LIFE....NEXT ARE THE ELDERLY AND THE SICK...WAKE UP! AMERICA~!! WAKE UP!!! WHAT HITLER STARTED IN WORLD WAR II IS BEING COMPLETED IN USA NOW WITHOUT A GUN OR BOMB BEING FIRED. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THE USA AND MAY THE ABORTIONISTS FROM CONGRESS HIDE FROM GOD'S WRATH IF THEY LET THIS HEALTH BILL GO THRU. THE AGE OF "THE CULTURE OF DEATH" PEACE!
Jeanne Therese| 8.5.09 @ 4:24PM
ABORTIONISTS ARE SICKNING....OBAMA, PELOSI,TED KENNEDY, THE CLINTONS. JOHN KERRY AND ANY AND ALL DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS THAT VOTE TO ADD ABORTION TO THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE SICKNING!!! NO MORE ABORTING YOUND LIFE....NEXT ARE THE ELDERLY AND THE SICK...WAKE UP! AMERICA~!! WAKE UP!!! WHAT HITLER STARTED IN WORLD WAR II IS BEING COMPLETED IN USA NOW WITHOUT A GUN OR BOMB BEING FIRED. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THE USA AND MAY THE ABORTIONISTS FROM CONGRESS HIDE FROM GOD'S WRATH IF THEY LET THIS HEALTH BILL GO THRU. THE AGE OF "THE CULTURE OF DEATH" PEACE!
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Arvid Nybroten| 1.20.10 @ 12:40AM
What ever happened to the good old days when the Jews admitted under torture that they killed Christian children? Senator McCain, who was himself tortured, says one will confess to anything under torture, but why should be believe him. The most conservative Catholics in Vichy France maintained that the Jews deserved to be exterminated by the Nazis because they had killed Christ. I have a Republican cousin. She is a Bush supporter and believes that he was right in using torture. She also works for Planned Parenthood, but then Republicans I know have a hard time with the concept of a Consistant Life Ethics.
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