The American Spectator : The Spectacle Blog : The Anti-Semitism of Ron Paul Supporters

Mal_Content| 11.23.11 @ 10:52AM

Guilt by association with anonymous internet commenters.

The hallmark of quality journalism.

Keith G| 11.23.11 @ 11:11AM

Ha! Awesome.

Xtrdouglas| 11.23.11 @ 1:40PM

Goldstien is an ENABLER who wants to keep his Heritage and his people slaves by intangleing them in US foreign policy--- while keeping them on the American dole like a welfare case-

Time to stop bottle-feeding Israel and teaching them to walk without assistance from the wet- nurse..

This hyperbole is not racist- nor is it bigoted ,

It is an example of How juxtaposition can point out failed philosophies and policies

Aleck| 11.23.11 @ 3:06PM

Dear Aaron, It seems as if you are making a good point, but the reason it rings hollow to me is that there is not a shred of evidence that the offenders are genuine supporters of Ron Paul. They certainly don't reflect the expressed attitudes of Ron Paul himself, which is the candidate whom you are trying to discredit. In fact, it seems much more likely that they are posers trying to make Ron Paul and his supporters look bad. This magazine claims that, "Comments are routinely monitored and will be deleted if profane, bigoted, or grossly impolite." But obviously, that policy is not followed, or else these "discussions" would not be nearly as childish and unedifying as they are, and serious people would be in a position to discuss the issues, and not just make bald allegations, which you yourself (uncharacteristically) do in this post. Indeed, your article that provoked all this inane chatter seemed so unlike you that I now wonder if you wrote it precisely in order to provoke, as well as to provide an occasion for, posers to make supporters of a certain candidate look bad. That allegation actually seems to fit the evidence much better than your allegation. I say that as one who has observed these dirty political games over a period of about 3 decades.

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:26AM

Well said!

hondr| 12.3.11 @ 11:02AM

Yes, well said. It's a shame that you resort to this bile, Mr. Goldstein.

Billy| 11.23.11 @ 11:38AM

Haha, perfect! Kinda like when the media was suggesting that Dr. Paul should return a contribution he received from a member of some racist organization. His response was something along the lines of, "Why should I give him money back for his agenda when I'm promoting liberty?" He didn't back down one bit and that's why he's bullet proof. Just because some of his supporters are a little misguided doesn't make him racist or anti-semetic. So stop trying to play that card because it won't stick, it's been tried before.

Jack in Wi| 11.23.11 @ 11:43AM

Any time a neocon gets his lunch handed to him he yells anti semite. We are sick of Israeli influence on our national political life.To say so isn't anti semitic it is the truth. We are perfectly happy to let Israel take care of itself on it's own money and blood. We sick of being preached to by neocons who have not ever been near a battle field. I suggest Mr. Goldstein go to israel and volunteer for the IDF, if he wants to support that world vision. The rest of us want our money spent here not on the banks of the Dead Sea.

Mr Goldstein writes a vicous and untruthfull article on Ron Paul. The whole article is nothing but stuff that follows the line of the Israeli ministry of propaganda. The whole line of this article is to try to smear Ron Paul and he wonders why we truthfully call him out for his lies and shilling the party line. Grow up Arron be a man, not a crybaby.

4d7711| 11.23.11 @ 1:54PM

The angst from the US electorate stems from the United States having long been used as a means-to-an-end for Israel. America is bankrupt and it is now being directed to declare war against a nation with ~73,000,000 people (Iran) which has close ties with nations with populations of ~141,000,000 (Russia) and ~1,338,000,000 (China).

Of course, Machiavellian metrosexual Jews like Goldstein will not die in the wars they cry so passionately for ...it's the duped Christian farm boys that will be sent to the front and shipped back in body bags by the cargo plane. This is not to mention the thousands of Muslims that will be killed as collateral damage and the generational hate that will be thus kindled in their grieving families. Also, the absolute squandering of our nation's treasure, infrastructure, and good name --acquired over centuries of hard work and industry-- for the aims of another nation is the height of folly. But so long as America is the target rather than Israel, so much the better for neoconservatives who see America as a useful tool.

Frankly, Israel's mouthpieces at the Spectator are guilty of Anti Gentilism.

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:31AM

Another excellent and well articulated thought!

Steven| 11.24.11 @ 10:20PM

that...was great. What this Aaron ..whatever..is trying to do, is provoke a anti-semetic rants to justify his absurd notion that by and large Ron Paul supporters are anti-semites. Aaron is a loud voice in the Jewish minority.
Israel isn't even on the radar from many of my Jewish friends. What is is the economy, and reckless spending of our government is.
Again, great response 4d771

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:00AM

FANDAMNTASTICALLY SAID!

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:39PM

Jack, the "proud 4-F."

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 5:46PM

Uh Oh !

The Screwball Israel Firster Maniac, Tool Job Is In The Building.

You're The Israel Firster RINO-CINO,Who Said He Will Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

Jack in Wi| 11.23.11 @ 6:45PM

I reread most of those comments. Aarron was destroyed by us and it wasn't anti semitic. Like the other ranter here Lord, his comments have no basis in reality. Ron Paul crushed his opponents in yesterdays debate. The vast majority of the American population wants the troops home and foreign aid ended. They want the Fed audited. Now the neocons in their last gasp are using the dispicable anti semite slur. They have destroyed the Republican party and conservative movement. They don't care if Obama or Romney get in. They own both of them. But heaven forbid a real American patriot gets near the power in Washington.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:14PM

pls..pls...pls....it's Stan Laurel!!! get it right dang it!

Jake R| 12.19.11 @ 9:41AM

I am a religious Jew and support Ron Paul. I don't want politicians pandering to me like I'm some kind of dirty prostitute. And I don't like the idea of US taxpayers funding Israel. In the words of our prime minister Netenyahu, we can take care of ourselves. If anything, Ron Paul is a supporter of Israel. He is non interventionist, and is one of the FEW republicans that supported the Israeli air strike on Iraq in 1981.

MT| 11.23.11 @ 12:41PM

Perfectly said.

It seems that some writers at the American Spectator are desperate to disparage Paul and his platform and will use any and all means and tactics to marginalize his growing popularity among the electorate.

Micah | 11.23.11 @ 1:23PM

Why does not wanting to support Isarael the only foreign policy position that gets put in the same bucket as a hate crime? The term anti-semitism is used to demonize anyone who doesn't have a "support Israel at all-costs" philosophy. Why don't we have a similar term for people who don't support Mexico or Canada? I don't support the terrorist nation of Israel so that makes me a Jew hater? I think not.

Randy | 11.23.11 @ 10:59AM

His cultish supporters swarm any forum/article comment section where Paul is criticized even a little, and attack, attack, attack. And somehow, the attacks always end up in anti-Israel rhetoric. Or worse. Nasty little buggers.

Joey| 11.24.11 @ 10:43AM

Right on!!!

Mr. Liberty| 11.23.11 @ 11:12PM

You're so right. Aaron Goldstein has no legitimate proof that these people were supporters of Paul's campaign, nor would it be fair if they were, to judge the rest of his supporters by them if they were in fact true supporters. Apparently Goldstein hasn't encountered trolling on the internet.

And by the way, being anti-semitic towards Israel is not as horrible as one may make it seem. There are degrees of antisemitism, and I can say my opinions if I so choose. Israel has its bias towards favoring citizenship towards Jews. That is a fact. That would not be tolerated in the U.S. , and so for me to talk about how I abhor that exclusion of other peoples, forgive me for being antisemitic by doing so.

I don't have to agree with everything the Jews decide to do in order to not be called an antisemitic by a rash writer on the internet.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:30PM

what's that anonymous commenter M_C?

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:38PM

Mal, you've done and said enough. And I note you stay anonymous.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 5:48PM

You Hide Behind The Moniker Of A Catholic Heretic, Tool Job.

You're An Asshat, Tool Job.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:29PM

Catholic heretics are my brethren. They were the Martyrs made Martyrs by your Religion, and share the inheritance of the Saints of God and of Christ in Heaven.

A good name, indeed has he then if that is the case.

Papist Dan| 11.27.11 @ 10:33PM

Your martyrs in Muenster were the anabaptists killed b y the Lutherans because your anabaptists practiced polygamy, wife sharing, and sex with underage girls. You hubby admitted you two are anabaptists.

Brian| 11.23.11 @ 12:01PM

Criticizing Ron Paul, or his supporters, is one thing. Calling them anti-Semitic is an entirely different one. It's hateful and dangerous and should not be accepted.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:40PM

Brian:

the day that Paul stops cheerfully accepting money from Nazis, I'll be happy to reconsider.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 5:54PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Do Your Homework.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:35AM

Ummmmm......Nazi contributions?
Please provide truth and facts to back up this claim.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:10AM

rediculous ..oc Nazi's are broke ,The jews have all the money !

9thID| 11.23.11 @ 12:41PM

Just like their Liber-al cousins, the Ron Paul Liber-tarian bowel movement is rife with anti-Semites...

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 2:08PM

Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."

The Tea Party Steps On 99% IDiot's Face.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:10AM

so we can poop on you!

Xtrdouglas| 11.23.11 @ 1:25PM

I don't hate Jewish people---
Just idiots like Randy who love to use bigoted comments and outlandish claims of racism to stifle persons 2nd amendment rights-

Calling someone a racist in this day in age is as bad as Mariah Yeater working Justin Bieber for a baby daddy payday!!!!

It's the pansie who cried wolf syndrome

Intolerably ridiculous ----

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:18PM

thank God the Libertarians who post at AMSPEC don't employ similar rhetoric/tactics!

Mike Walsh| 11.23.11 @ 3:14PM

This has been my problem with Ron Paul all along. It's like flipping over a rock: criticize him even a little, and watch all the creepy Paul fanboys come wriggling forth, outing themselves by their own words. Trouble is, there's just not enough space between him and them. Oh, and the blame-the-victim solipsism he shares with the left when it comes to dealing with islamofascism marks a thought process corrupted by ideology.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:40PM

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Nobel Prize Economist, Milton Friedman,
"I strongly support Ron Paul. We very badly need to have more Representatives who understand in a principled way the importance of property rights and religious freedom."

Andrew Napolitano, Former Superior Court Judge,
"In his heart and in his head, in his character and in his intellect, in what he has done, and in what he will become: The Thomas Jefferson of our day... Ron Paul is one of us."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:26PM

yes...the gynecologist flight surgeon who served for 3 years in the regular forces knows the regular AF (1963-68)and then 3 in the ANG knows the military well! none of which time...far as I can tell...was engaged in spreading the Libertarian gospel in VietNam.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:28PM

ugghhh....regular AF (1963-1965)....Air National Guard (1965-1968).........hmmmmm......what have we here?

workingclass artist| 11.24.11 @ 7:45AM

Ron (Neville Chamberlain) Paul is not a native Texan and could never win state wide office in Texas. He's a backbenching crank who should retire. His views on foreign policy are lunacy.
I'm a 4th generation native Texan and Paul gets elected for bringing home the bacon to his district not for his "ideology". In Texas he would've never cut it in the rough & tumble state legislature.

profess6orjoe| 11.23.11 @ 9:42PM

They'd be pretty silly if they swarmed on here to agree with you?

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:41AM

Wow.....critisize islmamo support and cry anti-semetism. Are you hearing yourself.
Heres a question, how did Jews and Muslims get along before the zionist creation we call Isreal?

Jeff Smith| 11.23.11 @ 11:02AM

From what I have heard and read regarding Dr. Paul's stance on Israel, I think his opposition of support has less to do with actually helping them, and more to do with the fact that he does not believe that our Constitution does not give our President the right to dispatch our military to anywhere he chooses without a declaration of war. He has stated as much on numerous occasions. While I do support us aiding Israel, I share his thoughts on the Constitutionality of allowing our military to be in multiple conflicts throughout the world, without a single declaration of war. That is the whole purpose of our governments system of checks and balances.

Brendan| 11.23.11 @ 11:03AM

Good for you for calling them on this.

I was ten years old when my teacher put pictures of holocaust victims on the bookcase in my Catholic school, and explained to us what evil was. I also am a proud supporter of Isreal, and view the Jewish people as my spiritual forefathers and as my brothers and sisters.

Ron Paul's followers need to take a long hard look at themselves and ask if their values really represent the values of our founders. Or of a certain German. Or Iranian. Whichever...

Billy| 11.23.11 @ 11:42AM

The founders said to stay out of entangling alliances and to have friendship and trade with all nations. Not to give nuclear weapons to one and support it AND its enemies in the region to the detriment of them all. We have absolutely ZERO responsibility to Israel... just as we have no responsibility to China. We are the United States of AMERICA and the congress and president have NO RIGHT sending our resources to other nations. Especially when our country is in such bad shape.

Brendan| 11.23.11 @ 8:28PM

The founders sent the Marines to Tripoli to kick the ass of the Mohammadens of the day. But perhaps you didn't know that because they didn't teach you any history in school.

aware| 11.24.11 @ 6:59AM

Yeah, right after the "founders" agreed to pay them "tribute" to leave our merchant ships alone. Maybe you ought to read a little history too. A ship was burned and ransom was paid for the crew. Not quite the "nation building" you are supporting.

profess6orjoe| 11.23.11 @ 9:50PM

Many of Ron Paul supporters happen to be WWII veterans who fought to save you from the German in question.See his veteran endorsement commercial. How dare you! I also went to Catholic School and was taught not to slander people. Tell me, who is more like the founders, Ron Paul who fights for the constitution or the other five contenders who want more war and more erosion of our civil liberties?

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:44AM

You make no sense. All RP supporters hate jews. Nice!We don't have to look hard at anything. We know why we support RP. It has nothing to do with aid to Isreal. And we will defend him from the BS zionist ploy.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:16AM

we value life liberty and freedom . The founders commited genicide on the original inhabitants of this country .Just like what the jews are doing to the palestines !

Jas Dal| 11.23.11 @ 11:09AM

There are extremists in any group of people. Ron Paul believes in freedom of speech. If some of your loyal readers advocated racial profiling, endless war, the financial destruction of the US and patting down grandmas in wheel chairs at airports, would you be responsible for their association with you? Of course not!

When you have liberty, you have some extreme views. That is the price of liberty - the toleration of opposing and sometimes racist opposition. Small minds are everywhere.

But you are responsible for your own views. Will you let them be clouded by the ignorance of a few? Or will you see deeper into the situations around you and find the truth? It is your mind, after all. If you believe in liberty, you have full control of it.

One error of the mind is to blame others for the views of some. A deeper insight would be to investigate the rationality and motive of friendship in giving 3 billion dollars a year to Israel while giving 15 billion to its enemies. Is that what a true friend would do?

Would you also express absolute loyalty to your friend whatever they do? Like use 20 or 30 of their 300 nuclear weapons against a country which may develop 1? Do you believe that "others" are so irrational that they would destroy themselves by attacking a nation with 300 nuclear weapons? Would you like to see, like Hilary, a country "wiped from the map" because its leadership is hostile to you? That would include all the women, children and innocent citizens of that country. Is that okay with you?

Being sensitive to insults is human nature. Rising above insult and into truthful perception and developing rational policies is wisdom.

Ron Paul has this wisdom. The country would be wise to elect him as its leader. Israel will be better off without a bully backing its every whim.

None of the above| 11.23.11 @ 11:10AM

What's wrong with being Jewish? And what relevance does that have on the content and quality of your journalism?

People will hate. Sometimes irrationally. Those people have the free will to hate whomever they choose, condemn the hater not the hated. Same thing with love. You cannot control the love of others.

Casey Abell| 11.23.11 @ 11:13AM

Hm, the Spectator's Hebrew Hammer strikes. It's nice that somebody finally had the guts to call out some of the extreme prejudice (not the CIA term) I've seen in comments around here.

Just one thing, Aaron. You might also want to bash the anti-Mormon bigotry I've seen from a few commenters opposed to Romney. Come on, you can do it.

4d7711| 11.23.11 @ 11:13AM

The first quote you'd listed was in response to the following quote by one "bill":

"...It would be great if "christians" practiced what Jesus said. No one enters heaven with hate in his heart."

If Christians are defamed with impunity on this board then Jews can expect the same.

If Jews will not tolerate criticism they should not have climbed into positions where culpability is expected. A powerful group above criticism is inherently tyrannical. If Jews act in their interests as a group they should be held accountable as a group. This isn't rocket science.

Xtrdouglas| 11.23.11 @ 1:31PM

Nice retort!!!! That's a keeper

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:42PM

4d: How many jihadis have you sucked off today? Just askin'.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:43PM

The problem, 4d, is not Christians or Jews. It's those who advocate a Caliphate, which Paul ignores.

Lisa| 11.23.11 @ 11:15AM

While I don't consider myself a "Ron Paul supporter," I do agree with him on many issues, and his criticism of foreign policy is one of them. This has nothing to do with religion - I'm agnostic, I don't really care if you're Jewish, Muslim or Pastafarian.

I have no doubt there are people out there who are both Ron Paul supporters and anti-semites, that does not, however, mean that Ron Paul supporters are anti-semites. The vast majority of serial killers are white men, that does not mean that all white men are serial killers.

America needs to stop expending time, energy and money on other countries and focus on the problems we have here. This has nothing to do with antisemitism, just common sense.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:33PM

did it ever occur to you that perhaps many consider Paul-bots to be a domestic problem?

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:47AM

We are the domestic SOLUTION!
Keep spreading that propoganda on your toast!

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 11:42AM

not even close. you all can't seem to absorb the fact that you have alienated folks within the Republican party! keep dreaming that this is going to be some magical movement that reaches avalanche proportions. never gonna happen. among other things.....think that many of us aren't going to other forums and ripping you all to shreds...and receiving approving assent in response? you widgets, regrettably, don't know how to play the game. but that was obvious from the git go. there are ideas....and there is leadership. and from the top down...aint one of the latter in the Paul camp.

LC JB | 11.23.11 @ 11:18AM

Excellent point Aaron. The PaulBots antisemitism is palpable. Rarely can one debate them on ANY topic without it devolving to support for Israel. Once that barrier is breached they fall right into nasty, name-calling little ankle biters. Unfortunately this site is infested with them and their endless yammering about DOCTOR Ron Paul as his title apparently calms the seas and causes his acolytes to swoon.

Brian| 11.23.11 @ 12:05PM

The only thing palpable here is the inability of some to see free speech as just that, and instead labeling it as something horrible and hateful as "anti-Semitic". Just because some people don't want the US to financially, or militarily, support Israel does not mean they are anti-Semitic. Anti-Semitism requires a hate against Jewish people. That is a very serious claim and one you, and Mr. Goldstein, are so quick to use.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:42PM

the problem is...as with so much associated with Ron Paul and his acolytes.....the damage is already done by the time they are prepared to act. viewed from a certain perspective...Paulistas are a truculent, immoral, detached, self-centered....ironically latently violent.....personality type. nothing I have seen/heard from Paul - or Ron Paul for that matter - posters suggests nobility and higher principle to me. I suffer no compunction in assigning the epithet "whiners" to the whole sorry lot. the whole tribe has clearly identified themselves as the sort who cut and run when they don't get their way.

who, in the end, wants to associate with children?

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 2:50AM

Examples, please. Your statements have no rational basis. All you are doing here is childish: calling people names. Adults have reasons for their opinions.

But if you want to be a kid and call people names, go ahead. You'll feel good - but it won't help your country.

As you say you have "seen/heard" nothing from Paul, why wait? Don't wait for his personal call. Go and do some research. Then come back here. Quote him. Yes, really do that. Then give us some reasons why you agree or disagree with him. That's what adults do.

And you can reply to this by calling me a "whiner" or any other childish insult you learned when you were 8 years old. Or you can just grow up, have the courage to actually debate like an adult and give us some evidence and reasons for your positions.

Your choice (but that may end soon with the coming police state as you have sold your liberties for a false sense of security).

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:00PM

oh please.....the logic is very clear and obvious. do I have to spell it out in BIG BLOCK LETTERS? the Paul crowd clings to these grand abstractions but is rather short on the details. it is almost totally void of any COA analysis and is clearly morally challenged. It absorbs these oceans of simplistic nostrums from a man who has never been able to realize ANY significant legislative achievements. it is a simple exercise to play "what if." what if Israel is attacked and thousands to millions die...a very real reality for anyone who has been in that part of the world and paid attention to the ever evolving dynamic of political/terrorist/weapons activities. once one starts reasoning from a time/distance pov it is easy to understand how worst case can unfold. the Paul bots have no answer for this other than "not our problem"...or worse..."a problem we created and need to extricate ourselves from". haven't decided yet whether the Paul crowd is morally bankrupt...I am convinced that...in the main...and insofar as foreign policy is concerned.....it is a grossly uninformed, simple minded ruleset that dominates the thinking.

but since you want to know the unprovable: I harbor no doubts but that a Paul Presidency would be an abject failure within mos of its inception. aside from the fact that this guy has no demonstrated leadership skills......there will be people like me on the right and folks on the Left on the phone to their representatives demanding they abandon this guy within mos of assuming office. while many of his domestic ideas sound palatable.....there's been no real description of implementation details. if, he is serious about half of what he says, he'll exact incredible damage early in the process. it's one thing to demand smaller government...a good idea...it's another to put millions out of work with no details on the hows and whens for moving these people into new areas. I haven't heard a single damn intelligent thing from any of the Paul-bots on the details. in short........no details on how leadership would actually be exercised. I don't give a damn if the DOE deserves to be closed...terminate the department then. but you better have a plan for how these people are going to be transitioned into the all noble private sector. otherwise......THAT TOO GOES ONTO THE LIST OF GOVERNMENT FAILURES. the Paul-bots have nothing by cliches when it comes to the details of how these sweeping domestic and foreign policy transitions are going to be effected. they better start thinking about it...because every move will create constituencies of millions opposed to it. and that is where my point about no demonstrated leadership successes during all those years in Congress comes into play. I don't the man has the backing, talent, experience to execute the..as yet...non-existant plan. I think he'll end labelled as the Obama of the right. Over his head, lacking support established over decades, legislatively inept. By 2013 he will be 78........he's the past in ways Paul-bot rhetoric hasn't figured out yet.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 12:16PM

A lot of opinions here - no facts. Quote some. BLOCK LETTERS is shouting. Not polite. Shouting at people rarely changes minds. But maybe I'm wrong. Have you ever been wrong? Quote some facts. Provide references if you want an adult discussion. Then you can communicate with adults on an adult level. Leave the shouting for kids in the playground. Or go there and shout at kids. They'll probably think an adult shouting in a playground is some kind of idiot. But maybe you'll convince a few kids that way. Worth a shot.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:19AM

why throw money at the wind !

cam2| 11.23.11 @ 11:20AM

I understand your anger at some ignorant supporters' of Ron Paul. That being said, a candidate should only be responsible for what he or she says and what he or she believes in.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:43PM

And cheerfully and openly accepting money from avowed Nazis.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 5:57PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Do Your Homework.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:44PM

I see. so what his followers believe him to be espousing makes no difference?

Marc Finley| 11.23.11 @ 11:24AM

Mr. Goldstein, I do not condone the actions of my fellow Ron Paul supporters in your comments section. But, it would be extremely erroneous to single out these comments. The online world is full of foul mouthed people who make comments on articles from the safety of their computer screen. If you want to see some real nasty stuff I will direct you to any Yahoo! News article, where you are sure to find comments that make these look like jokes.

I am sorry you have decided to respond to these comments. I assure you that this is common Internet behavior and I will encourage you to ignore personal attacks.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:44PM

Marc,

the comments are continuous and never ending, and they are also ALL OVER PAUL'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE.

It is clear that Ron Paul's supporters hate Jews. It is also clear that they bend and spread cheeks for jihadists.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:00PM

The Big Yellow "Anti-Muslim" Maniac Tool Job Bus Calls The Lemon Pie Yellow.

You're An Asshat,Tool Job.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:45PM

All Hail Stan Laurel!

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:21AM

Fight your own wars then! Ron Paul supporters have had enough of your H8!

Ben Straub| 11.23.11 @ 11:26AM

Interesting, you must admit though that there exists a "Jewish" cabal running the financial press, ratings agencies, the Federal Reserve, and certainly the large investment banks, not too mention our foreign policy in the form of AIPAC. Just look at the surnames to get an idea where the influence lies. Let us not forget Lloyd "I am doing God's work" Blankfein, etc. Normally I would not care about this cabal's power, but they have let their greed run rampant at the expense of everyone else by creating a number of financial bubbles which have or are in the process of popping and are now crushing the hard working people of this country, and yes Jewish types are primarily responsible for lobbying into position the mess we now have. I fully understand why they have done these things as the money to be had is astronomical. Just think of the system they have produced where savers are forced out of their dollars into risky assets for some semblance of return, assets that the money changers continually get fees for. As for me, I do support Israel's right to exist as they have been operating for over 60 years. However, I do not want any of my tax dollars supporting their apartheid dealings.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.23.11 @ 11:34AM

Ben,
you and Mr. Soros must be good friends, liar.

Ben Straub| 11.23.11 @ 11:47AM

;) If I knew Soros, then I would probably be a whole lot richer than I am now, and that would be nice. Don't know about his leftist political stances though.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.23.11 @ 11:32AM

Aaron,
You know darned well that I have chewed your britches on many occasions.
I have also cheered you on many occasions. (Actually, my biggest sadness is that you are an “east-coaster”, without a clue of what is going on in the rest of the country…..nor do you seem to care.)
NEVERTHELESS……….as the “Jew in front of the firing squad” you don’t want to make trouble.
OK…I will make trouble!

These f***ers aren’t “anti-semites”. THEY ARE F***ING NAZIS AND SKINHEADS HOPING FOR A PROMOTION TO NAZI!

I am sad to say…I hope some of them come down my street some day. OOPS!
(fewer NAZIS).
God bless….and read Isaiah again.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:22AM

Not to mention T.V. And The press ,Know any jewish directors or stars?? hmm!

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:47PM

I do support an "apartheid" state. A bit too much meth, Ben. Israel is not an apartheid state.

The following heavily Jewish types are integral to our current problem: Kerry, Dodd, Waters, Reid, Pelosi, Obama.

There are Jews among those responsible, but to blame it mainly on the Jews is the mark of a cocksucker.

Brian| 11.23.11 @ 12:09PM

Wow. I thought Mr. Goldstein was hateful, you are on an entirely new level of hate! They went from being anti-Semitic (meaning they HATE Jews, which none of the comments showed) to being called Nazis. It's scary that people like you exist. Labeling people as such a hideous and hateful thing, when it is so off base, is in an of itself HATE. You are full of hate, even to the point that you joke about killing RP supporters. Creepy, creepy, creepy.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:53PM

geez...grow a pair. the Paul crowd lobs its verbal grenades as often as the most battle tested moveon.org types. but return fire and suddenly the sensitive side surfaces. who the H are you kidding? I haven't seen any of the "principled" sorts in this thread remonstrating their Paulista brethren for any excesses we have all been relentlessly subjected to over the last many months. a hypocrisy shared with the princes of morality on the Left...one might note with sad amusement.

9thID| 11.23.11 @ 12:51PM

The Liber-tarian bowel movement is a magnet for radical anarchists & racists and their Liber-al cousins in the "Occupy" movement exhibit similar behavior. Libertinism, whether it is of the Obama neo-Marxist type, or the Ron Paul neo-anarchist type, are a clear and present danger to our republic...

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 2:13PM

Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On 99% IDiot's Face.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 10:58PM

the key is to ignore the acolytes. what has Ron Paul accomplished while collecting taxpayer dollars? what singular piece of legislation distinguishes his time on Capitol Hill? What has he accomplished of significance legislatively? what group has he successfully led through the years in a manner that voters can identify as influencing their lives? NOT A GD THING! that's the low comedy in all of this.....it's all a grand parade with a group of clowns providing the entertainment......while the float in the middle has no real beauty queen riding it.

Mike| 11.23.11 @ 11:37AM

To Lisa..... You must be anti-semetic if you don't want your tax money going to Israel. That's what people would want you to believe. Truth be told, the U.S. is financing both sides of the Arab/Israel issue. The U.S. should stop giving money to both sides. I think that still makes one an anti-semite.....I guess.

devinesara| 11.23.11 @ 12:55PM

It's a good old-fashioned witch hunt, Mike. If you don't say what we say, just the way we say it, you are not one of us and we have nasty label for you. And, or course, it's always more about what we say (I'm PRO-Israel) than about what we do (send money to Palestine). I find this level of hypocrisy, ignorance and ideological thuggery truly scary.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:02PM

so...will you at least concede that you won't give a damn if millions of Israelis are annihilated? you can admit that without being an anti-semite.

BHatch| 11.23.11 @ 11:40AM

WHO CARES, Goldstein!!! You sound like an illogical liberal with your... ah, racist... him... there... anti-semite. Clearly one idiot at a tea party rally with a racist depiction of Obama doesn't paint the entire movement racist. It is people like yourself who scare away right-leaning rational beings (especially young people) from the Republican Party. You should be courting all right-wingers... I refuse to vote for another statist Republican like the guy three years ago.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:06PM

awesome! I will vote for whomever opposes Obama. and will see the likes of you for the tacit America hating thugs you truly are.

then again...keeping in tune with the times and sentiments lodged in the very first post....one can't even be sure if many of these anonymous Paul posters are Plouffe employees transacting the campaign strategy.

os| 11.23.11 @ 11:46AM

I was shocked by some of the comments, but you have to admit it was pretty silly to suggest that Ron Paul would be happy serving as Obama's Secretary of State.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:48PM

Right, os, especially as Obama is too much of a pro-American military Hawk for Paul.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:10PM

You're American Spectator's Resident Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Lunatic,Tool Job.

Dr.Ron Paul,
“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington.

“The President also defended his unconstitutional intervention in Libya,
authorized not by the United States Congress but by the United Nations,
and announced new plans to pressure Syria and force the leader of that
country to step down."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Lunatic,Tool Job.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:10PM

Ron Paul really doesn't give a *hit how many people die around the world...does he?

btw...how does the Libertarian feel about identity information in the cyber world?

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:29AM

ron paul didn't send 100,000 troops to iraq or afghanistan ! Nor did he kill 50,000 MEXICANS- OBAMALIAR!

Trevor| 11.23.11 @ 11:47AM

Honestly, this article is such tripe. There are racists and bigots within every movement but you make it seem like this is a rampant opinion. Ron Paul in his book Defining Liberty has repudiated racism and sectarianism as the worst forms of collectivism.

And it's funny because I'm typing this while sitting next to my Jewish girlfriend and I voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and will do so again!

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:48PM

Trevor,

good for you! Voting for a guy who would get your kids killed!

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:31AM

look whos killing NOW! Going on 16 years of all about war w/ muslims ! What is wrong with you people !

Stan| 11.23.11 @ 11:50AM

The congressional black caucus, and Jesse J and Al S, demonized supporters of cutting welfare as racists. On this site anyone who criticizes support and foreign aid for Israel is demonized as anti-semitic. I'm sure there are anti semites who support Paul, and they are vocal on this site. I'm sure there are anti semites and racists who support all the candidates. The only group you can safely attack and mock here are Christians especially Catholics.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:15PM

that's not quite the message...now is it? the Paul message has consistently been: it's their backyard...it's their problem to solve...we need to completely extricate ourselves. HE HARBORS NO SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY WHATSOEVER. his is a completely reactive posture........the entry price for stirring action on his part will be too high.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:33AM

Not OUR WAR FOOL! Why should our kids die for israel when your kids aren't even on the playfield??????????????????????????????

Semite| 11.23.11 @ 11:53AM

First of all Adam... you're not a SEMITE nor are most of the Jews in Israel, so get it straight before you talk about anti-semitism. Secondly, the president and all of our troops are sworn to uphold and defend the constitution of the UNITED STATES. We're not sworn to protect Israel. Israel has the worlds 4th most powerful military and around 300 nukes. They don't need our help nor do most of the American people want any part in a war that they start. Not wanting to help Israel isn't racist nor is calling out a person who wants to solely based on religious affiliation. If a country like Switzerland were in a similar position as Israel is today, you wouldn't be acting so self righteous.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:17PM

have you ever been there? is this your grand geopolitical assessment?

Nate| 11.23.11 @ 11:58AM

Wow... So because I don't think we should be involved in Israel's foreign affairs, I'm anti-Semitic? Or am I just anti-Semitic because I disagree with you? I think you're ignorant, Mr. Goldstein, not because you're Jewish, but because you are ignorant.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:26PM

no...you...like most Paulistas...are grossly ignorant...or hugely dishonest. can't make up my mind on that one. those 300 nukes somehow don't seem to stop the rockets....the suicide bombers.....the Olympic Games murders......the machinations of the Syrian/Iranian backed terrorists. I am not Jewish......but I recognize an effort executed over 60+ years to destroy a people/country when I see it. I understand very the language that is employed. I have seen the burnt out tanks and torture chambers. Our strategies in that part of the world have very often been ill conceived.......but the moral cowardice of Paul and his acolytes is truly astounding. there are times when standing tall matter more than some God damn notion of the primacy of the Libertarian id.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:37AM

Then stop your filthy settlements ! A line is a LINE you have crossed to many times my friend !Egypt ,Babylon, Assyrians, Romans,Germans ..all have defeated you ! Of all the great civilizations where are you cities ??? FLattened and I don't wonder why !

Brian| 11.23.11 @ 11:59AM

This is outrageous! Not only do you generalize and stereotype all of Ron Paul supporters, you also make vastly inappropriate statements Mr. Goldstein. "Apparently, anti-Semitism is a socially acceptable prejudice amongst his supporters" Give me a break! How many of his supporters have you met? How many RP events have you attended? And, of the hundreds of thousands of comments by RP supporters all over the internet, what incredibly small percentage falls into your definition of anti-Semitic? I bet it wouldn't even come to 1%. Stereotyping... some things never change in this country.

Why don't you google "Jews for Ron Paul" and just see what comes up (Facebook pages dedicated to it, many articles written about and from his Jewish supporters, and organizations that have formed just to educate even more Jewish Americans on RP's positions)! Have you even seen those? I'd assume you have, and just disregarded them as irrelevant, since your article seems to assume that there aren't Jewish Americans supporting RP, which there so clearly are! And, instead of attempting to speak for all Jewish Americans, why don't you keep your obvious bias against RP (whether your last name is Goldstein or not, you are clearly biased against him and incapable of seeing just how low-blow your statements are) to yourself? The world could use a lot less flippant attacks on individuals', or in this case a group of supporters', character.

Similar to others dropping a "race card", this quick to use "anti-Semitism" is dangerous, completely off-base, and downright shameful. Not to mention completely untrue.

Regarding RP's position on Israel? Fact. Israel can take care of themselves. Believing in that IS pro-Israel. Why? Because they are a SOVEREIGN nation with the ability to choose their own path in the world, and in foreign policy. Not to mention a nation with incredibly effective intelligence and special forces, not to mention a stockpile of weapons and arms. You see, when America is involved, and this goes for every country including Israel, we dictate what is and isn't allowed. We always position ourselves as the controlling country in any arrangement we have. Which, although you probably aren't aware of this, is why there are many citizens of Israel (and in the government of Israel) that want America's influence over Israel's policies lessened if not removed completely. Supporting a country taking care of their own problems, and teaching them to not be dependent on the USA, is PRO that nation. Giving Israel its sovereignty back, is the most pro-Israel position I can imagine.

Either way though, the title of "The Anti-Semitism of Ron Paul Supporters" shows exactly how limited you are in your research, experience, and understanding of Dr. Paul, and his supporters.

The American Spectator should be embarrassed by this slum "journalism" and should distance themselves from individuals who generalize entire groups of people like you do, Goldstein.

And, on another note, why is it anti-Semitic for people to connect your obviously Jewish last name to your obviously negative Jewish bias against Ron Paul? Making note of such a coincidence is not anti-Semitic, it's just observant. Anti-Semitic insinuates a hate towards Jews (you do realize that, right?) and not one of the RP-supporters' comments you included in this blatantly anti-free speech article shows any sign of hate towards you or Jews in general. At all. It just seems you are one of those individuals that is quick to drop anti-Semitic, or Racist, or whatever other label pops into your head, regardless of the ridiculousness of the claim. Again, outrageous!

I sincerely hope that one day people (whether based on race, religion, etc.) stop dropping such hideous claims as "anti-semitic" or "racist" when they are completely off base. Just because you have a platform, Goldstein, doesn't mean you should use it to spew hate.

And, make no doubt about it, what you said about RP and his supporters is flat-out HATE. So, instead of applying a label on others, based on the hate you seem to perceive, why not examine your own hate you've spewed here to the millions of Ron Paul supporters that exist all over the world. Great people, who are not, in any way, anti-Semitic.

Trevor| 11.23.11 @ 12:43PM

Pwned.

Seek| 11.23.11 @ 12:01PM

Wasn't Rep. Paul implicated in some kerfuffle back in 2008 whereby he (allegedly) spoke at a neo-Nazi gathering in Arlington, Va. at a Thai restaurant? A Roanoke, Va.-based Nazi named "Bill White" blew the whistle on Paul, saying the candidate always has been extremely anti-Jewish.

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:55AM

Damm!

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:29PM

Israel can take care of itself. you have no idea whatsoever then how modern wars are fought from an operational, intelligence or logistic point-of-view.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:49PM

The "Jews for Ron Paul" has been exposed as a sham.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:18PM

The Israel Firster propaganda Squad Is Getting Desperate.

Curt Maynard,
"First and foremost I think it’s important to point out to the reader that Bill White isn’t considered to be a real “white supremacist,” by most white nationalists, in fact, most white nationalists think he’s a Jew and openly refer to him as William Weiss, agent provocateur. Some of the evidence is MORE than compelling. Having grown up in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and having attended predominantly Jewish schools, in his youth, Bill White [nee Weiss] self admittedly embraced communism, even going so far as to have worked for the Communist Party USA itself, as recently as 1999. In all seriousness, doesn’t that sound suspiciously like something a young idealistic Jew might do rather than a white supremacist? A Jew playing the role of an American Nazi leader isn’t anything new, Frank Collins [nee Cohen]did it a number of years ago, and with some success, in that he initially fooled many people. Of course the truth will always prevail in the end. "

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:30PM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!!

Joseph| 11.23.11 @ 12:37PM

that is highly skewed mud slinging from the last election cycle. its like me bringing up Cains Affairs with women. Unneeded overblown media trying to portray good people as bad.

devinesara| 11.23.11 @ 12:50PM

This sounds credible.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:23PM

Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."

The Tea Party Steps On 99% IDiot's Face.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:31PM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!!

Calion| 11.23.11 @ 12:04PM

That is unfortunate and sad. Paul has attracted a large diversity of supporters, so it is probably not a surprise that some of them (us; I supported Ron Paul long before it was cool) have unsavory views. Remember in the last cycle, the white supremacists who donated to his campaign? But racism of any sort is not socially acceptable among libertarians; it is in fact, as Paul has pointed out, contradictory to the philosophy. However, not all of Paul's newer supporters are educated, principled libertarians. This is good; Paul will never be elected without expanding his base. But with that comes the risk that these newer supporters will say things his core supporters wish they wouldn't. Perhaps there is a Jewish conspiracy; I don't know. But it's as ridiculous to assume that every Jew is a part of it as to assume that every Muslim is a terrorist. Let me extend an apology on behalf of all Ron Paul supporters, and assure you that anti-semitism is certainly a minority (and hopefully rare) viewpoint among us. And let me thank you for not attributing, as others have, unsavory views held by a few of his supporters to Paul himself.

Brian| 11.23.11 @ 12:17PM

I think it's sad that you are pandering to the hateful Goldstein. He stereotypes millions of people with a label that should shock us. Anti-Semitism is a SERIOUS allegation and one that should only be used in the most strict of circumstances. Why apologize to him? Not one of the quotes he included from RP supporters in this article show any sign of HATE towards Jews.

Anti-Semitism requires a HATE of Jews, and none of the comments showed that to me.

Apologizing for those comments assumes there is some truth to this extremist author's claims, and I think that is unfortunate.

Mr. Goldstein is the hateful one who labels millions of people as anti-Semitic. He should apologize!

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:34PM

and none of the Paulista posts demonstrate any sense of responsibility. you all are moral frauds. willing to put us ALL at risk. not just Israel.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:40AM

No ONe is gonna hurt you ,PUSSY!

Steve SF| 11.23.11 @ 12:05PM

Dual (citizenship) loyalty would be an improvement.

Grant| 11.23.11 @ 12:20PM

I guess Paul's position on foreign aid appeals to some who oppose our existing relationship with Israel. However, Paul's position is not about Israel, but rather the Constitution and the unintended negative consequences that occur when our government interferes in the affairs of other nations.

I believe at best the author's assertion - that we should judge candidates by the motivations of their supporters - is counter-productive to an intellectual, objective evaluation of candidates and their positions.

Or maybe it's simply an intellectually dishonest attempt to smear a candidate with whose positions the author does not agree instead of debating the ideas themselves on their merits.

Should we stop giving foreign aid to all, including Israel, or not? That is the question. Discuss.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:39PM

so...the good doctor would be against American funding for...say....medical treatment for disease riven countries in Africa? food for drought stricken countries? succor for flood victims?

my guess would be not. which brings us to one of the many problems many of us have with Paulism: its gross generalizations/lack of nuance.

out of curiosity...would the good gynecologist and his Paulistas also terminate all humint activities overseas?

The Dangler| 11.23.11 @ 12:27PM

Right....The only candidate that wants to respect Israel's sovernty...and the only candidate that wants to de-fund Israel's enemies...you call an anti Semite....

I swear, you leftist neocons pretending to be conservatives, you start at stupid and then go backwards

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:50PM

Review Paul on Israel's defending herself in Gaza, please.

Paul despises Israel.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:21PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Dr.Ron Paul,
" While President Obama’s demand that Israel
make hard concessions in her border conflicts may very well be in her
long-term interest, only Israel can make that determination on her own,
without pressure from the United States or coercion by the United
Nations.

“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:40PM

All Hail Stan Laurel!

aware| 11.24.11 @ 7:07AM

Bet you will be hell when you graduate grade school.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:17PM

this is the apex of cleverness for you? yes...that is a rhetorical question!

get with it man...the Paulistas endlessly repeat the same mantras. fine! look at their exulted leader: every time he purses his lips and looks down to the podium when receiving information that attacks his ideas.....he looks exactly like Stan Laurel! It's hilarious.........and something to drive home again and again until it goes viral. him.....it would be easy to capture a still shot with this look....post it on U-tube with a background Laurel and Hardy soundtrack...and stream a banner asking what this guys actual legislative accomplishments have been.

aware| 11.25.11 @ 6:06AM

So keep supporting your banker approved would be masters and continue to be mystified why we keep stumbling down the path of serfdom and ruin.

You've been tag teamed by the progressives and the neo cons so long you don't even know who's stepping on your face anymore. "...legislative accomplishments..." You mean like prescription drug benefits or "Patriot" acts? Maybe some other idea that destroys liberty while building up the State? You have the mentality of a "thank you sir, may I have another" knave.

Neo cons are just like progressives, don't argue about facts cause they are against you, just name call and personalize the debate in your usual sophomoric way. Lemming meet cliff.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:40AM

who doesn't

Joseph| 11.23.11 @ 12:28PM

Sir I would beg to disagree I am not anti-Semite. and I support Ron Paul. that is like saying all Christians are KKK members. Yes all KKK members are Christians but that does not make all Christians KKK members. I do not agree with Antisemitism but I do agree with Ron Paul and that is we need to stay out of Israel's business.

OLDRAY| 11.23.11 @ 12:28PM

Anyone who listens to Ron Paul and reads the comments of his supporters should be able to recognize that these are antisemites. Certainly if they were adults in the 1930s or 1940s. The last national election when Mr Paul held a rally in Veteran's Park in Manchester ,NH, was clearly full of (mostly young) nutcases. Many dressed in cartoonish Uncle Sam costume ,with mostly out of state number plates. One may debate his views and those of his loyal followers ,but it is clear to see that many are fanatics ,and others are just plain nuts. A dangerous combination.

devinesara| 11.23.11 @ 12:48PM

Sorry, but clearly you see what you want to see. I'm a stay at home mom of three. I have an MA in English lit. I don't dress up in costumes or attend rallies, but I support Ron Paul. I know a lot of other people who don't fit your profile either, who are also supporters. Sorry, but it's just not that simple. I think your combination of presumption, bias, and confidence in your own conclusion is dangerous.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:52PM

And, sara, in the upcoming battle against Islamic jihadism, you will be as useful as mammary glands on a bull, despite your secondary sexual characteristics.

Thanks, Aaron---I'm releasing a lot of frustration here!

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:42PM

bingo!

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 3:00AM

Another child who only has insults instead of reasons. Are you 8 years old? Can you think instead of insult? Is that too much to ask of you?

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:20PM

look in the mirror. the Paulistas are most likely morally bankrupt...and certainly have no details on how their grand Libertarian vision will be executed. we have all learned by now.....based on the current 1600 PA Ave clown...to get the details in advance.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 12:24PM

Yes, "most likely". I'd love to believe that you know the truth here. Please provide some examples to prove your point.

"No details?" Please, check out the comprehensive plan that Ron Paul has issued to solve the nation's problems. Or just keep your opinion devoid of facts. Facts get in the way of illusions. Pesky things.

aware| 11.25.11 @ 6:23AM

"Paulistas are most likely morally bankrupt."

Classic case of projection.

aware| 11.25.11 @ 6:21AM

If there is a battle I'm sure you will be far away from it, Doctor. Expanding military plus rotten economic system equals epic collapse, wiseguy. That's what is "upcoming", bub.

George Washington| 11.23.11 @ 1:15PM

OLDRAY doesn't know how to use a comma, so -- certainly -- until he learns how to use a comma -- one cannot expect him to impart lines of wisdom outside his retarded blend of simpleminded zealotry and simplistic stupidity.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:43PM

well...we all know what to think of folks who seize on spelling or grammar first! thanks for the profound commentary!

martin j smith| 11.23.11 @ 12:34PM

Joseph--What other countries business do you think we should stay out of. And suppose they do not stay out of our business then what. ? There are two things I would say--I do not know the vast majority of Ron Paul supporters, but those that post on Am Spec I again do not know them personally -thank G-D but their posts ( you see I really do not know who they are including if they are ac knows who they are ) but that said they are Anti-Semites and very hateful and do a disservice to Ron Paul. However if he dopes not disown them then that is on him too. I think it would be interesting to collect comments by purported Ron Paul supporters ask ask Ron Paul himself what he thinks of them ? And what he has to say to them if anything.

devinesara| 11.23.11 @ 12:41PM

Why? This sort of thing is gossip fodder. I can assure you he has nothing to say to them and feels no responsibility for them, nor should he. Should he also speak out about the drunk guy who got arrested while yelling "Ron Paul 2012"? Total nonsense.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:53PM

Sara: Please review Paul's position on receiving money from the publisher of "StormFront." Or go to Hell. Or Galveston, in Paul's district. Same place.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:26PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Do Your Homework.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:45PM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!

devinesara| 11.23.11 @ 12:36PM

I think pretty much every candidate attracts dubious characters. To suggest otherwise is lame. Ron Paul, unlike most politicians who never miss a chance to placate perceived victims, isn't in the business of telling other people what to do or think, whether they support him or not.
It is possible to be pro-Israel and support Ron Paul. I am. I ideologically support their right to exist and their democracy. Would I personally go to war for them, or send my children to war for their interests? No. Would you? This country has claimed to be "pro-Israel" while giving money to the likes of Tehran and Egypt, who, as Ron Paul pointed out at last night's debate, is becoming ever more hostile toward Israel. We fund those who hate Israel, even as we fund Israel (and of course this funding comes with strings that give us power over what should be their internal affairs). So, just saying "I'm pro-Israel" doesn't cut it, to my mind. Though, it seems many people, perhaps you included, are content with this charade. Please read:
http://www.worldofjudaica.com/.....el/5428/61

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:54PM

Paul has also supported those who would destroy Israel. Repeatedly.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:28PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Dr. Ron Paul,
“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.

“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.

“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:45PM

All Hail Stan laurel!!

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 3:04AM

The US gives 3 billion a year to Israel. It gives 12 billion to Israel's enemies. Is that what a good friend would do?

Let me see, how about you? Let me be your friend. Here is are 3 knives. Hey, are those your enemies? Yes? Okay, I'll just go give them 12 knives. I'm your best friend. See you later. Have fun!

George Washington| 11.23.11 @ 12:44PM

Anti-Americans [like Aaron Goldstein] love to [hatefully] call logical folks anti-Semites whenever anti-Americans [like Aaron Goldstein] can't convince logical folks to adopt anti-American foreign policies.

Reason| 11.23.11 @ 12:55PM

If you can get past your ego Mr Goldstein, perhaps, as an American, you can sympathize with these comments you disapprove of.

Your civil liberties will be taken away too should these needless wars progress. Remember that!

AIPAC is a powerful lobby. It is not news that the media is entrenched with support for Israel. (Wolf Blitzer for example was a writer for the Jerusalem post and editor of the AIPAC monthly publication the Near East Report. Understandably he disparages anyone with an anti-war foreign policy (ie. Ron Paul.)

I don't think Judaism has any part in this debate. I would expect an intellectual such as yourself to be able to read between the lines. Simply, Americans should not die for Israel when it undermines our own National Security. You are an American.

You disparage this fact and turn the argument into a racial issue which it is not.

America first! We are bankrupt! No more endless war! Israel can take care of itself as it did when they bombed Iraq's nuclear facility in the 80's.

Please use your intellect to strengthen our nation. The American Spectator will use you as a pawn as long as they can. Think of your soul. Remember, your family will get groped at the TSA just like mine while the elites count their money and sip champagne .

This is not about race or religion. It is about a Lobby that has a grip on US foreign policy.

Join the revolution. We need you.

Ron Paul 2012!

9thID| 11.23.11 @ 12:59PM

We The People need a Conservative "revolution" not a French one...

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:46PM

"logical folks".....bahahahaha...man is it ever getting deep in here!

mike donovan| 11.23.11 @ 12:49PM

If the economy tanks and riots ensue and the masses start looking for a scapegoat, and it happens to be the Jews, watch how fast the other empty suit candidates back the masses in going after the Jews. Ron Paul is the only one on the stage who would stand up for the Jews, and that's a fact.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:59PM

No, no Paul would not. He cheerfully takes campaign money from STORMFRONT---and THAT'S a Fact. One of the things that irritates me most is non Jews trying to describe antisemitism to me.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:30PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Do Your Homework.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 3:07AM

Prove it. Where's your evidence? You have no credibility without proof. Put up or shut up.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:51PM

exactly...Ron Paul and his followers will stand up....so they say anyway...AFTER THE ASSAULTS AND MAYHEM HAVE STARTED. I have my doubts that they would stand tall.....their philosophy seems much more oriented to circling the wagons and protecting their own when the proverbial feces hits the fan. the violence, btw, when it comes, won't single out Jews. Paulistas won't be manning any barricades in front of Synagogues. they'll be covering their own arses with the guns, water and Ramen noodles they've stashed away in anticipation of the final assault on their sacred ids.

garvan| 11.23.11 @ 12:51PM

Here's something to consider.

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that wants nothing to do with Israel.

Every other candidate including the president has shown themselves to be PRO-ISRAEL.

Why does Ron Paul attract anti-semites?

Because he's the only one who's decided that Americans should work for Americans. That the tax dollars of America's poor should not go to the oppressive regime of the rich elite of Israel, and that American people should have nothing to do with fighting for the various land grabs and other schemes that the elite of Israel continue to do.

We're all for Israel doing whatever the hell it wants, just as long as it realizes that it'll will pay the consequences for any war it starts, and will be internationally condemn for launching one of it's 200-300 nuclear weapons.

JUST LEAVE US OUT OF IT, AND STOP MAKING AMERICANS PAY FOR THE OPPRESSIVE CHOICES THAT THE ISRAELI ELITE SEEM TO WANT NOT JUST FOR THE PALESTINIANS, BUT ALSO THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

Even the everyday Israeli knows how corrupt their own government is. Just as the everyday common person knows how corrupt the government that governs them is.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:55PM

what a noble guy you are! Paulista morality = "I don't give a damn what happens to you...just don't bother me"!!!! you guys and gals are tops in my book. you ooooze virtue.

and get it straight...Paulistas don't support the big sort of government it would take to "take care of our own" as so many in this thread have misleadingly posted. at least be consistent when tossing your mush into the cybersphere.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 3:13AM

Wrong again. It is "don't bother me - and I do give a damn what happens to you."

You seem to have a lot of opinions about Ron Paul's core principles - but you are showing complete ignorance of what they are. I'd suggest research - but you seem to just like having a loud opinion. What is that opinion based on? The facts? If so, please provide one. Make sure it is a fact. You just screaming insults is not debate. Makes you feel good though, doesn't it?

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:28PM

oh BS. not one of you has articulated any mildly reasonable COA analysis. we're weary of all the empty details. here's what we have heard: this isn't our problem though our presence has inspired much of the enmity....the resources and manpower need to be brought home.....they can defend themselves. what they have essentially....and clearly stated is...you are on your own. this, obviously, is not how it would actually unfold. anyone with a third rate education knows we will not abandon the Israeli's....the form and size of the support might change...but we are not going to abandon them. if that is the case...then a more nuanced gameplan and statement of commitments is gonna be needed...the Paul crowd has no answer for that. it's all this simpleminded crap that seems attractive on the surface but lacks any real execution detail or long-term vision. It's Obama'ism from the other end of the political spectrum.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 1:06PM

Well, thank you for at least proposing some reasons for your positions. Things are looking up!

Let's see. You want to keep supporting Israel. Okay. Keep giving them 3 billion a year. And keep giving their enemies 12 billion a year. That will really help Israel, right? You will be her true friend doing that.

Ron Paul proposes giving nothing to Israel - and nothing to her enemies. Israel would be better off.

The US is buying influence with Israel and with all her enemies. Whose interest is being served? All that money comes back in purchasing arms from companies that produce weapons. They are the same companies that buy the politicians who keep the wars going. Who profits?

And who pays for all this? You do. All that foreign aid comes from US taxpayers. Are you one? Meanwhile the US is going bankrupt, people like you are losing their jobs and their homes and there is no money for anything.

Just raise taxes on every US citizen. Just print more money. Just go into more debt. Just borrow all the money from China. Just let China continue to own more and more of the US.

Are these wars in your interest? Is that money - your money - being spent to defend you? Or is it being used to line the pockets of the corporations who sell arms around the world? Their propaganda is in all the media. Have you bought their reasons that these wars are for your defense? More and more do not.

Mike F| 11.23.11 @ 1:03PM

Then you should probably elect the most traditionally conservative Candidate to run in the past half-century, Ron Paul.

Not some hate mongering, Neo-Conservative Liberal like half of the GOP.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:57PM

Mike:

I'm not high on Marijuana. And Ron (legalize it, don't criticize it) Paul ain't Consrvative.

carnot| 11.23.11 @ 11:57PM

it's Stan Laurel. get it right.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:33PM

this is a perfect exemplar of what is so amusing about the Paul crowd! shoot self in foot syndrome! SSFS!! let's talk principle...and anyone who opposes our ideas is a hate mongering, neo-con liberal like half the GOP. you all need to be trusted but can't resist slamming any and everyone who doesn't jump onboard. you are your own worst enemies and seem to come to that self understanding.

that, in the end, IS childish behavior. that IS...what many of us have concluded about the Paul crowd...and...by what I have seen at the debates...conforms to how Paul responds when subjected to ideas that conflict with his own. so...I'll concede the consistency there between titular head and loyal followers!!!

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:54PM

Excellent point, Mr. Wilson.

Mike F| 11.23.11 @ 12:56PM

Interesting that the morning after a debate where the majority of the people on the stage OPENLY endorsed racial profiling, your article is about a few prejudiced internet supporters of the guy on stage who OPENLY condemns racial profiling.
Stuff like this should not come up when I select the 'News' function on my search engine. This is just trash.

Margie| 11.23.11 @ 1:12PM

Aaron Goldstein,

Only thing I can say to you is: get used to it!

"Truth is lacking, and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey." Is. 59:15.

I appreciate your stance on Israel, and enjoy reading you blogs. In fact, I don't even click on some of the others, but look to read yours.

And now, off to coffee with my husband. In honor of Herman Cain, I just asked him if he wouldn't mind "doctoring my coffee for me, darlin."

Margie| 11.23.11 @ 1:13PM

Anybody Republican but Obama 2012!

BHatch| 11.23.11 @ 1:40PM

= continue the march to socialism (though at a somewhat slower pace). Pickup your rifle and march to the front Comrade Margie!!

BHatch| 11.23.11 @ 3:29PM

Ever wonder why the government continues to grow and your liberties continue to shrink under these "conservative" Republicans? Zombie!!! Snap out of it!!! You have the ability to reason but it does require some effort.

Margie| 11.23.11 @ 3:37PM

Ability to reason you ask?
LOL, and you're a Paul-bot saying this to me?
The Lefty-Libertarianism of your cult leader renders you unable to see anything.
Unable to see that his views on foreign policy are the same as Obama's!

Zombie, indeed!

You can't tell the difference between conservatism and Leberalism, or don't want to.

This country didn't turn to the Left because of Republican doings, but by the Democrats and their policies.
To have to even say that to you is pretty pathetic.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:45PM

Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

BHatch| 11.23.11 @ 4:25PM

I'll admit, it is hard to argue with someone who speaks only in broad generalities.

Lefty libertarianism? Pretty sure the spectrum looks like this:

communism-socialism-mixed economy-capitalism

modern liberalism-conservatism-libertarianism

Obama-your candidate-my candidate (Although I will admit there is not much of a difference between your "conservative" and liberalism these days)

It wasn't Republican doings - TARP, Medicare Prescription Drug Improvement Act, etc??? Or let me guess... you think Mitt Romney is "right wing?" Or John Huntsman?

Do not speak to me of foreign policy until you have seen the irrational wars first hand.

BHatch| 11.23.11 @ 4:27PM

"America's core principles are indeed libertarian. Those principles are as right for America today as when set forth more than 230 years ago: free markets, low taxes, small and non-invasive government, no special interest influence on government, maximum personal freedom, and overseas involvement only in the interest of commerce and self-defense."

os| 11.23.11 @ 5:40PM

"Unable to see that his views on foreign policy are the same as Obama's!"

Ron Paul has criticized just about every single foreign policy decision Obama has ever made. Your man Cain is much closer to Obama on foreign policy.

And before you call me a lying devil who's going to hell, look it up.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:56PM

Yes. Paul has criticized Obama from THE LEFT. He votes with Kucinich.

os| 11.23.11 @ 6:07PM

Are you saying, with a straight face, that non-interventionism is a policy of the Left? I guess, in your mind, Woodrow Wilson and LBJ were radical right-wingers?

MikeG| 11.24.11 @ 8:56AM

How is Paul a leftist because he voted on one issue with Kucinich? That is stupid. Many congressman vote on one issue with someone they disagree on most issues. Paul is for reducing government which is the exact opposite of leftism. Kucinich is against most wars. Paul is against all wars not declared by Congress, and would probably vote in congress against most wars. Just because Paul doesn't commit US to Israel blidnly doesn't mean he is antisemitic.

Moshe Shleimy Shmolkovitz| 11.23.11 @ 1:23PM

As the representative of all Jewish Ron Paul Supporters, I say this to you, "Gay Cocken Offen Yam" And then go shove a torah scroll up your ass! Your head is filled with mush idiot!!!

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:36PM

I'm sure all five of you are great friends!

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 5:55PM

Warren, you are dead wrong. Review Ron Paul's position on Israel attacking Hamas in Gaza, and see how you can square that with a pro-Israel position.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:01AM

this comes close to stupid post of the day! the specific context was the very sensible one - one which we all know happens behind the scenes anyway as terabytes of data move through millions of pattern illuminating logical gates - of terrorist attacks. again...more gross generalizations without any sense of responsibility...often detached from reality...from the Paul children.

Ian j| 11.23.11 @ 1:56PM

If you're so pro-Israel, why don't you go fight for that racist nation. Americans are tired of that whore and her endless squabbles with her neighbors.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:04AM

wait a minute.....I detest it when frauds of any stripe...Obama or Paulistas.....assume the first person plural...as a placeholder for "all Americans".

OLDRAY| 11.23.11 @ 1:57PM

Sorry GW for my grammar failures . You see , Pearl Harbor came along as I was in my first semester at University of NH a nd I left to join the army at my 18th Birthday (may of 1942) and I had no time to perfect grammer as I was in Tunisia in G company 1st Armored Regiment as a machine gunner when Rommel destroyed us in the 1st US company in contact with the Africa Corps (Feb 14 ,1943) His iunits came thru Faid Pass and Gafsa. Nope, no time to learn grammar as when we got finished in Tunisia we did Anzio , the Appenines . As G Company had the most in the field time and was the oldest mounted unit in US history , when the 1st Armored Division reorganized to contemporary standards 64 of were reformed into A company , 1st Tank Bn and so remained to the end of the war and so I remained in it except for a couple months when due to terrain and weather a few of us formed Co A 1st provisional Rifle Company and served in the line as infantry along the Reno river nerar Vergato. So you see we had no time for grammar. Back home there were " America Firsters" who remind me of many Ron Paul supporters (they included antisemites and well m,eaning peace lovers who couldn't remember history). sorry for my poor punctuation.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:07AM

nice perspective. and thanks for service rendered!

Hank Xavier| 11.23.11 @ 2:23PM

I am a proud Ron Paul supporter and I love Jewish people just like I love all people. While I am critical of many Israeli federal policies, I recognize the right of the Israeli people to be self determinant and to defend themselves. So does Ron Paul. This article is a pack of lies.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:08AM

you're such an upstanding guy!

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 2:26PM

You have to understand that Ron Paul's campaign doesn't put people into groups, so it's all inclusive. Being that's the case, you'll find an extremely wide variety of folks supporting him; blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, atheists to hardcore Christians and Muslims, highly educated to classless morons...all inclusive means all inclusive. Freedom of speech applies to anti-semitic trash as well.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:10AM

in short...nothing definitive. sounds a lot like the storyline we were fed...oh......a scant three years ago about some other towering figure of moral probity and resistance to foreign engagement.

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 2:43PM

Wasn't his newsletter edited by a neo-nazi. Funny how the only entanglement the jew hating paulbots seem to question (and question most vehemently) is with Israel. Goodness knows how allowing Iran to get nukes will contribute to helping stability in the Middle East.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:17PM

" In an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Paul asserted that racism is incompatible with his beliefs and that he sees people as individuals, not as part of collectives. He also dismissed the attack as an attempt to accuse him of racism by proxy, claiming that he has collected more money among African-Americans than any other Republican candidate. Blitzer stated that he was "shocked" by the newsletters, as they did not seem to reflect "the Ron Paul that I've come to know, and the viewers have come to know" over the course of several interviews during the campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CoQWAXuUyI&NR=1

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Nelson Linder, president of the Austin chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), also defended Paul, though not in his official capacity under the NAACP: "Knowing Ron Paul's intent, I think he is trying to improve this country but I think also, when you talk about the Constitution and you constantly criticize the federal government versus state I think a lot of folks are going to misconstrue that....so I think it's very easy for folks who want to take his position out of context, and that's what I'm hearing."

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:12AM

All Hail Ron Paul!!

so would a Paul Presidency tax me to support the various support programs that curry favor in minority communities....or would he end them all?

Frank Denver| 11.23.11 @ 2:55PM

I'm deeply offended by your article.

You will find racist people in all political groups. Yes, I am for Ron Paul and I have not heard a single comment or read a single comment that Ron Paul is anti-semitic.

Ron Paul's position is that country who performs acts of aggression must be held accountable for their actions. Just an FYI, he feels the same way about America's actions. I suppose you're going to say he's anit-American as well!

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:13AM

you're right...he's not anti-semitic. he's just grossly irresponsible. possibly immoral. almost certainly a coward.

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 2:59PM

I'm deeply offended by your article. How dare a jew criticize dear leader ronpaul. Probably a dirty filthy speculator as well. Why, we were present in the middle east, therefore 9/11 was a warranted response in the great leaders mind. How dare it be questioned. Must be a jew to ask so many questions. Did I channel the average paultard okay?

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:22PM

" Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World â€“ because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”

Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 4:15PM

Ronpaul finds Obama's "pushback" against our imperialism to be justified. How can you argue that he would "keep his eye on the ball" if he actually sympathizes with the position of the group that committed 9/11 (for being on soil in the Middle East at the invitation of Saudi Arabia, not for having invaded the country and subjugated it). Would dear leader give every group a similar heckler's veto for exercising our national interests if they committed heinous enough acts of violence or would it just be given to radical islamists. The Baader Meinhof gang didn't want us in Germany, let's run.

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 4:27PM

You mistake sympathy for acknowledgement of true motivations.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:17AM

what arrant horse *hit. and stupid to boot. of course they are going to react to our presence...or anyone's. BFD. that's tantamount to asserting one should never engage in any action if any other party objects. the salient issues are our moral obligations, economic interests, and geopolitical interests/commitments.

Ed| 11.24.11 @ 11:26AM

Well, we non-paultards just don't understand the 6th dimensional chess that dear leader ronpaul is playing. Moral obligations? Economican and geopolitical interests? What are those?

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:44PM

exactly. I sympathize with many Paul top line goals/principles...at least for domestic policy. but there's no detail on execute. there's no nuance. there's no attempt to do what has to be done in tough times: announce the criteria and decision process that everyone is gonna be impacted by. in my mind...aside from the fact that Paul has no history of any legislative successes...the mindset of the Paul crowd almost exactly parallels what we all had to wade through in 2008. it's the same damn dynamic with exceedingly heavy emphasis on top level generalizations, absence of detail, teary eyed loved for the vessel of "hope", and vicious responses to anyone who poses "yea...but" questions.

Paul is 2008 all over again. smaller following. different color. different age. the un-equal and opposite reaction? hmmm...is the Paul-bot crowd really nothing more than a group of angry reactionaries?

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 3:01PM

If we just stayed home and didn't venture from our shores, radical islam would flower and turn into a peace loving religion (not that they are bad people now, no sirree, given that they were justified in attacking us because we ventured out from our shores, just like the Japanese and Germans were misunderstood and should have been left alone by us).

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:25PM

"Christopher Preble, vice president for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute, is also another foreign policy expert who agrees that the United States is extraordinarily secure due to its geography and nuclear weapons, and doesn’t need a huge global presence.

He also argued that the United States’ military is being used in overseas conflicts with little or no national interest, specifically pointing to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Preble gave Paul credit for being one of the few outspoken critics of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

For sure America’s attitudes toward the war has changed and popular opinion seems to be on his side.

It’s evident at most of his campaign stops, where Paul’s calls for the troops to return home are met with thunderous applause and the occasional standing ovation."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:21AM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!

well...if Christopher Preble says so...it must be so!!!

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 3:08PM

Did the prohibition against excessive foreign entanglements mean that we were not to make judgments as to who we would ally ourselves with internationally? That position is, frankly, silly. We have had allies throughout our history. Would the Paulbots say that abandoning them on a whim would be ramification free? That a decision to side with Hitler in WWII as opposed to England was a morality free decision with no values to be exercised. Perhaps that is an unfair question given that the average Paul supporter would likely have sided with the former rather than the latter.

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 3:30PM

@Ed - "That a decision to side with Hitler in WWII as opposed to England was a morality free decision with no values to be exercised."

That's an extremely stupid statement. We didn't even get involved in the European theater until AFTER Germany declared war on the US. The declaration from Germany was received in DC at 9:30am EST on Dec 11, 1941. The US declaration was issued only in response to that at 3:05pm EST.

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 3:44PM

We were arming and assisting England ie. picking our allies and getting into foreign entanglements. We should have avoided doing that because, let's face it, there was no real difference between the countries at the time and we, in retrospect, provoked the innocent Germans into attacking us (and we did it for the hated jews, right, paulbots).

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 4:31PM

Actually, it wasn't even reported as to the true nature of the Nazi policy concerning the jews until 1944. Our involvement really had nothing to do with the holocaust.

When the jews were allowed to leave Germany, prior to 1939, there was a great issue as to which countries they'd be allowed. Roosevelt didn't want them in the US because of restrictive the fearimmigration policy, rampant anti-semitism in the US, and the fear that amongst the refugees would be Nazi spies.

You really have a strange fixation on calling "paulbots" jew-haters. Perhaps, it is YOU who is the jew-hater?

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 4:38PM

Well, I just read their quotes and find it pretty simple to label paulbots (or, if you prefer, paultards) with the name they deserve based upon their words. You don't address how we backed and were supporting Great Britain even before the declaration of war ie. getting into a foreign entanglement that resulted in "pushback" by the Germans against us. Isn't this just the kind of thing that dear leader ronpaul says we should not be doing.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 6:01PM

Gosh, Redneck, the Wannsee conference was in 1942. Kristallnacht was in 1938.

I spent 7 years in Alabama. You must be one of those Idaho rednecks, 'cause I know Southern rednecks and you aren't bright enough to be one.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:33PM

Read George Washing ton Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's Firste Inaugural Address & The Old Right And Get Back To Us.

George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"

William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:23AM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!

JimH| 11.23.11 @ 3:10PM

If you heard that someone named Shaniqua Washington supported Obama, would you assume that she was black an that was the reason for her support? And if you thought this would it make you a racist?

bob cobb| 11.23.11 @ 3:16PM

hey goldstien, if you cared to do a little bit of research on Ron Paul you would come to know that he is a great admirer of Ludwig Von Mises and Murray Rothbard, both Jewish. So I would suggest you exercise a little of caution before you make such a ghastly accusation.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 6:02PM

And Goering's godfather was Jewish. He, too was an antisemite.

So Bob, you ain't as bright as Ty.

chuck| 11.25.11 @ 12:35PM

Hell, Hitler's grandma was a Jew!

Margie| 11.23.11 @ 3:39PM

Aaron,

You removed my post to Ken?
What now> So Ken has the permission to say what he wants here, to accuse me of all kinds of garbage, and he gets away with that, but I cannot say a peep to him?
What is he, the Pope?
Utter hypocrisy.

Mike| 11.23.11 @ 5:56PM

Good that they are removed. Who wants to hear your personal problems.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:37PM

Listen "Mikey"~ If you were an honest soul, you'd be saying the same thing to Ken, the liar and slanderer who started publicly accusing me here of falsehoods.

Stick it up your butt, Troll.

Mike| 11.25.11 @ 5:32PM

Listen garbage mouth margiey, take you problems to the Jerry Springer show where you belong.

Margie| 11.26.11 @ 10:01PM

Troll.
Repent and believe the Gospel of God, or you will likewise perish!
Luke 13:3.

Mike Rogers | 11.23.11 @ 3:45PM

Aaron is right. The Paulbots are liberal fascists.
I wrote a short note on why Ron Paul's supporters prove that he is not the leader we need. We already have Obama inciting our youth to be rude and pushy. My closing comment was "My beef is this: If the doctor has the charisma to whip these youngsters into a frenzy, why doesn't he have the leadership to encourage them to be polite and to reflect well on his campaign?"
http://granitegrok.com/blog/20.....the_r.html

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 3:49PM

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Nobel Prize Economist, Milton Friedman,
"I strongly support Ron Paul. We very badly need to have more Representatives who understand in a principled way the importance of property rights and religious freedom."

Andrew Napolitano, Former Superior Court Judge,
"In his heart and in his head, in his character and in his intellect, in what he has done, and in what he will become: The Thomas Jefferson of our day... Ron Paul is one of us."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

" Ron Paul is surging, an Iowa and New Hampshire front-runner and powerful third-party possibility
By Brent Budowsky - 11/21/11 10:04 AM ET

There are now multiple polls that show Ron Paul has gained support and has a legitimate chance to come in first or second in Iowa and New Hampshire. I would now call Ron Paul one of three front-runners in both Iowa and New Hampshire alongside Mitt Romney and a third candidate, currently Newt Gingrich. If Ron Paul wins Iowa, which he might, all bets are off. Also, most analysts miss the fact that many states have open systems where independents, and in some cases Democrats, can vote for a Republican nominee. This could give a further boost to Paul.

It is now time to give Ron Paul the attention he deserves in debates and throughout the political community."

Margie| 11.23.11 @ 3:53PM

Ron Paul refused to sign a Resolution that stated that our country backed Israel's choice to defend herself.

I wonder why, if he ISN'T anti-semitic?

Actions speak louder than words... or cut n' paste comments.

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 4:35PM

Blah, blah, blah...

It isn't because he is anti-semitic. It is because he doesn't believe it is our government's business to be anyones' cheerleader...

You either have a job in which you require a lot of praise on a regular basis, or you must really hate yourself...

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:26AM

and you...like all Paulistas....are a moral coward.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:38PM

OOh, psycho analysis by a Paul-bot!
Wow!
You and Ken the Reprobate ought to get together!

M. Nolan| 11.23.11 @ 3:58PM

You are arguing that because trolls exist on the internet, Paul should be ashamed. I argue you should be ashamed that of all the thoughtful posts in opposition to your lame arguments, the only ones you are prepared to address are those written by trolls. There's an economic lesson about getting more of what you subsidize in there, somewhere.

I thought it was "liberals" who went to the race card as their last resort? What about the substancial arguments in the comments?

Poyani| 11.23.11 @ 3:59PM

Gotta love the crazy logic of the author. If you don't accept Israeli supremacy then you are antisemitic.

One commenter even writes "Ron Paul refused to sign a Resolution that stated that our country backed Israel's choice to defend herself. I wonder why, if he ISN'T anti-semitic?"

I guess then everyone who doesn't kiss the KKK's ass is an anti-white racist.

Margie| 11.23.11 @ 4:09PM

Wow. So let me see if I get this straight. Are you saying that Israel is the KKK? Or those who put together the Resolution are KKK?

Whew.

The question still stands. Why wouldn't he sign it?

Poyani| 11.23.11 @ 4:20PM

Israel is certainly closer to the KKK as any other country in the world. I mean it is undoubtedly a supremacist country which selects its citizens by race and carefully manages its racial demography to ensure a Jewish majority. I don't think anyone is questioning that.

On why Ron Paul may not sign a pledge to fight on Israel's behalf, well the same reason he doesn't sign a pledge to fight on anyone else's behalf. It makes him as much an anti-semite as it makes him anti-Japanese or anti-Colombian or anti-Angolan.

Also keep in mind that the words "defend herself" have a totally different meaning in Israel than anywhere else in the world. In Israel, bombing defenseless children is called "defending yourself". Hence, whenever Israel invades its neighbors (which is roughly once every 5-10 years), it claims it was "defending itself". Likewise when it invaded and occupied Lebanon for some 20 years, it was "defending itself". When it invaded and occupied the West Bank and Gaza for 44+ years, it was "defending itself".

Israel's definition of "defense" would make George Orwell blush!

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 4:25PM

The prototype ronpaultard non-anti-semite sounds a lot like a plain old ant-semite. When your newsletter was edited by a Nazi and your supporters who bombard the internet when you are criticized spouting off about jews and their hatred of them, can one draw a conclusion that you are an anti-semite (or do we have to wait for the final solutiona and ignore Mein Kampf)

Poyani| 11.23.11 @ 4:34PM

My newsletter? I was not aware I had a newsletter. But then again, if you see antisemites who aren't there, then I am not that surprised if you see newsletters that aren't there. Perhaps a vision test is in order.

As for the notion that Ron Paul sounds like the old antisemites, I don't even know how to reply. So cutting the endless aid to Israel is the same as advocating for the Holocaust? Really? Those sound the same to you? Check your hearing too while you are at the doctor.

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 4:38PM

LOL. I get the impression Ed checks under his bed for anti-semites every night before he goes to sleep. Pathetic.

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 4:40PM

Why would one have to check under one's bed when you can just go to any comment section for a column that criticizes dear leader ronpaul?

Poyani| 11.23.11 @ 4:45PM

Haha! True, but not all his fault.

Sometimes I feel bad for Jewish people. They are the only people I know of, which are the target of an entire industry constantly scaring the hell out of them, trying to convince them the world is out to get them.

The Anti-Defamation League, the B'nai Brith, the countless organizations claiming to be fighting worldwide antisemitism, keep pointing with one hand at antisemitic ghosts while swiping their wallets with the other hand.

You want to talk antisemitism? Is there anything sicker than these profiteers of the Holocaust?

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 4:57PM

Because, goodness knows, there aren't any people/countries on the face of the Earth who regularly and in no uncertain terms say they want to wipe Israel (and let's be real, all jews) off the face of the Earth. Just like in the 30's, it's all a lie, I tell you. Why be paranoid when the followers of dear leader ronpaul spout jew hatred that would have caused a Bund member to blush.

Poyani| 11.23.11 @ 5:25PM

"Because, goodness knows, there aren't any people/countries on the face of the Earth who regularly and in no uncertain terms say they want to wipe Israel (and let's be real, all jews) off the face of the Earth"

Are you aware that Iran hosts the second largest community of middle eastern Jews, after Israel? No! You didn't right? Are you aware that Iran has a Jewish member in its parliament? No. Again, of course you didn't!

Why else would someone make the idiotic statement that the government of Iran is currently wiping all Jews off the face of the earth?

Let me guess, you are an ADL donor?

Crazy_Redneck| 11.23.11 @ 5:40PM

Actually, the terms are uncertain. The statement by Ahmadinejead to which you refer was incorrectly translated by MEMRI. The statement was "...the regime occupying Jerusalem will vanish from the page of time".

Sure Israel is surrounded by folks who aren't exactly friendly to them. But don't be so naive as to think they are "anti-semites". Many of those who surround Israel are semitic peoples also (semitic = sons of Shem = descendants of one of the sons of Abraham).

I don't disagree that there are jew-haters in the world, and even some among Ron Paul supporters. However, to label all Paul supporters as "anti-semites" and "jew-haters" is completely void of truth.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 6:04PM

Poyani: what would you do to people who slowly cut the head off of your 14 month olds for fun?

Clue: Don't ever come near my kids unless you want to an asymmetric response.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 6:05PM

Sorry: "want to see an asymmetric response." You are a Jew Hater, asshole.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:27AM

well...we're at least one step closer to the Paulista truth!

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:55PM

"I mean it is undoubtedly a supremacist country which selects its citizens by race and carefully manages its racial demography to ensure a Jewish majority. I don't think anyone is questioning that."

So, you ARE saying that Israel is like the KKK, proving you are not only a complete idiot~ wait. Are idiots complete? Oh, well.

You're statement is an utter lie, but then you fit in here great with the rest of them.

Congrats!

Mal_Content| 11.23.11 @ 4:24PM

I found Paul's answer to your question, Margie.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul335.html

I know the internet is hard sometimes, and your man Ken (Old Texican) isn't always there to find the answers for you. Keep Googling, Margie. It gets easier after a while.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:43PM

"I know the internet is hard sometimes, and your man Ken (Old Texican) isn't always there to find the answers for you. Keep Googling, Margie. It gets easier after a while."

As far as I'm concerned, you're both ass*****.
Make that all 2 of you, including Ru Paul.
Okeedokee, Paul-bot punk.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:51PM

3.

BHatch| 11.23.11 @ 5:30PM

Good lord, Margie. You are so irrational!!!

It is called an analogy. He is not equating Israel to the KKK.

RP did not sign it because HE BELIEVES IN AMERICA'S SOVEREIGNTY and HE BELIEVES ISRAEL IS ALSO A SOVEREIGN NATION.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:29AM

awesome! I think that is the lone premise one requires to erect the entire edifice of modern foreign policy! you Paulistas are so blindingly sophisticated!

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:45PM

"RP did not sign it because HE BELIEVES IN AMERICA'S SOVEREIGNTY and HE BELIEVES ISRAEL IS ALSO A SOVEREIGN NATION."

As my good Dad would say, Bulldinky!

And Ron Paul will have to tell that lame excuse to God.

Dope.

Ed| 11.23.11 @ 4:05PM

Yep, the author, in an article that didn't mention Israel, argued that one is anti-semitic if one doesn't accept Israeli supremacy (but ronpaul and his supporters aren't flaming jew haters, just "constitutionalists").

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:30AM

sure you are. keep clicking your heels!

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:47PM

whoops...sorry about that Ed!

mewilbur@comcast.net| 11.23.11 @ 4:11PM

I hate anti-Semitism. It has caused more fanaticism, more conspiracy theories, more hate, the complete loss of rationality and the result has been that rivers of Jewish blood has flowed for more than 2000 years. Millions upon millions of Jews have died because of gentile stupidity, envy, the insane belief that Jews were not human because they refused to submit to the fantasies of gentile religion or were racially defective and infected the gentile race, or deformed gentile culture. This history says nothing about the Jews, but it does say alot about gentiles -- that they are irrational fanatics and murderers. I have seen a rise in anti-Semitism in the past few years sometimes under the guise of anti-Zionism sometimes not. It is completely unacceptable to me, and it demonstrates to me a complete ignorance of the reason Israel exists and ignorance of the history of the West since ancient times. But I shouldn't be surprised, the US powers that be have decided that a dumb population is what they prefer because they're easy to manipulate. Thus we are well on the way to serfdom.

Poyani| 11.23.11 @ 4:38PM

"This history says nothing about the Jews, but it does say alot about gentiles -- that they are irrational fanatics and murderers"

Let me guess, you don't consider yourself a racist. You just think you are fighting anti-semites.

Just like I said before, it is like the KKK claiming we are all anti-white racists.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:32AM

I get your point. it'll zip right by the "Constitutionalists".

Stav| 11.23.11 @ 5:54PM

To hold Ron Paul responsible for everyone who chooses to support him is a ridiculous notion. It is unfortunate that people have resorted to assuming you are bias due to your last name. Unfortunately this example of crude generalisation seems to infest people from all walks of life, though many fight against it. However, your use of such people to justify criticisms of Ron Paul make you just as guilty of generalising (I have had a bad experience with some of his supporters, therefore all his supporters must be like this, including Ron Paul himself). You're not some anonymous commenter, you're a journalist and you put your name to this article. Show a bit of integrity and pride and don't repeat this filth again.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 6:06PM

Stav: when you are told that you have accepted money from the publisher of StormFront, and you can return it, but you choose to keep it, and then you take a picture with that man, that tells a lot about who you are. That's Ron Paul.

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:34PM

The Screwball Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Smear Artist Maniac,Tool Job Is In The Building.

Do Your Homework.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

Occam's Tool| 11.23.11 @ 6:08PM

Stav: if you were at the CPAC meeting and ran into the Ron Paul supporters there, or read his website, you would realize the man is bonkers.

And Trev, if your girlfriend thinks it's OK if Iran gets a nuke, she's what we would call a "Jew by Birth only." Probably true, since she's dating a scumbag like you.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:33AM

hey..if the followers fit...wear em.

Philip| 11.23.11 @ 6:23PM

Typical. What Israel does to the Palestinians cannot be defended, and Israel clearly no longer deserves our unconditional support, so the only argument left is to name-call. This pathetic evasion of the real issues is so weak, & it's going down in the near future.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:35AM

where do these morons come from? and that's not name calling...it's a clinical conclusion.

ok...we'll take your word that what the Israeli's "do" cannot be defended! cuz we all hold the same value systems and shared experiences......

Richard Baker| 11.23.11 @ 6:48PM

Ron Paul supporters are nuttier than the proverbial fruitcake and that's a generous view of them.

ryan| 11.23.11 @ 10:26PM

they only seem nutty into you look into the issues, and if you do then you will see how right they are and why he has such a dedicated following. his supporters come in all shapes and sizes, when people try to say they are nutty that is just a dirty media trick so people dont look into him. read about the federal reserve act of 1913 or the patriot act, or all of the sick shit that israel does to the palestinians and you will see why he has such a passionate supporters. we are crazy but the things that are considered normal these days are insane. read about it!

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 6:58PM

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Nobel Prize Economist, Milton Friedman,
"I strongly support Ron Paul. We very badly need to have more Representatives who understand in a principled way the importance of property rights and religious freedom."

Andrew Napolitano, Former Superior Court Judge,
"In his heart and in his head, in his character and in his intellect, in what he has done, and in what he will become: The Thomas Jefferson of our day... Ron Paul is one of us."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

" Ron Paul is surging, an Iowa and New Hampshire front-runner and powerful third-party possibility
By Brent Budowsky - 11/21/11 10:04 AM ET

There are now multiple polls that show Ron Paul has gained support and has a legitimate chance to come in first or second in Iowa and New Hampshire. I would now call Ron Paul one of three front-runners in both Iowa and New Hampshire alongside Mitt Romney and a third candidate, currently Newt Gingrich. If Ron Paul wins Iowa, which he might, all bets are off. Also, most analysts miss the fact that many states have open systems where independents, and in some cases Democrats, can vote for a Republican nominee. This could give a further boost to Paul.

It is now time to give Ron Paul the attention he deserves in debates and throughout the political community."

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:36AM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!!

You have my vote! I love comedians.

Clint| 11.24.11 @ 3:09AM

The Court Fool, Carnot Enters The Building.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:53PM

ouch! Clint...you mean, bad boy you!

each day...each post of yours...convinces me more and more..."Yes these are the sorts of leaders I want commanding our fates! they're noble visionaries. they're men of vision and principle. they comport themselves with distinction, discipline and self-assurance. their very thoughts and actions honor the high minded principles they espouse. they are the touchstones to a better life for all of us!"

ok...I'm done...I don't wanna be like Mike any more. I wanna be like Clint!

I'm onboard buddy! All Hail Stan laurel!!!!

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:47PM

Amen, LOL!

C Bowen| 11.23.11 @ 7:19PM

Occam's Razor has called for a nuclear holocaust of the Arab world and his a Goldstein fan.

Aaron, please apologize.

RICHARD MILLER | 11.23.11 @ 7:41PM

Not all Semites are Jews, and not all Jews are Semites (will explain below.)

Semitic speakers are the bigger group, it constitutes of Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic and Ethiopic speakers.

Ethnic/genetic/biblical Semites is a smaller group, by biblical accounts and DNA it constitutes: The majority of the Bedouins and Yemenis are Semites, more than half of the Syrians and Iraqis are Semites. More than a third of the Israelis are Semites the rest are Jewish people. (You can convert to become a Jew plus Jewishness is passed by the mom so you can have a Black or Chinese father and still be a Jew, in Semitic and biblical laws you are no longer part of the tribe or Beni-Israel once you have a Goyim father.)

In Ethiopia only the Semitic speaking Amhara, Tigray and Tigrinya are about 30% Semitic. The Ethiopian Jews are limited to partial maternal Semitic lineage because they were female slaves exiled from ancient Yemen during the Ethiopian invasion.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia......&artid=710
Be happy to debate you!

Randy | 11.23.11 @ 8:08PM

And.....as usual, they showed and proved my point.

And why does someone aways say this? "Not all Semites are Jews, and not all Jews are Semites." Anti-semitism means Jew-hatred. http://dictionary.reference.co.....i-semitism

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.23.11 @ 8:42PM

Copy alert:
Aaron,
You know darned well that I have chewed your britches on many occasions.
I have also cheered you on many occasions. (Actually, my biggest sadness is that you are an “east-coaster”, without a clue of what is going on in the rest of the country…..nor do you seem to care.)
NEVERTHELESS……….as the “Jew in front of the firing squad” you don’t want to make trouble.
OK…I will make trouble!
These f***ers aren’t “anti-semites”. THEY ARE F***ING NAZIS AND SKINHEADS HOPING FOR A PROMOTION TO NAZI!
I am sad to say…I hope some of them come down my street some day. OOPS!
(fewer NAZIS).
God bless….and read Isaiah again.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 1:49PM

"He who speaks the truth gives honest evidence, but a false witness utters deceit." Prov. 12:17.

How's your conscience, Ken?

Clint| 11.23.11 @ 8:49PM

Uh Oh !

Kenny The Squirrel Is In The Building.

You're The Gutless Coward Bigot,Who Had A Lot To Say From Your Hiding Place Behind Your Keyboard About Those Of Us, Who 's Names End In A Vowel.

Wanna Make Somethin' Of It Ya Gutless Coward, Kenny The Squirrel?

Hmmmmmmm Punk ?

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:38AM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!!

Clint| 11.24.11 @ 3:11AM

The Court Fool, Carnot Enters.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:55PM

All Hail Stan Laurel!!

Carolyn Makliff| 11.23.11 @ 9:15PM

This is paranoia. All online comments include the highest to the lowest. It's a completely anonymous place for people to rant and rave with no consequences. You would find "anti-Jewish" comments on an article about any of the presidential candidates, and anti-Muslim, and I've noticed plenty of anti-Christian. These are arbitrary and often deliberately inflammatory comments. It is ignorant to think one article's comment section is some sort of analytic study of Ron Paul supporters. Goldstein is showing the same tendency of another race: you say good morning to them and they say, "HEY! Are you putting me down because I'm black/Jewish/Zoroastrian or whatever other characteristic. This is deliberately concocted BS to slam Paul, obviously. It's certainly not rational.

DoctoRx| 11.23.11 @ 9:50PM

I read through as many comments from the prior post as I could handle. I think you had an affirmative obligation to delete Nelson's comments. Other than his disgusting comments, which by standard 'Net editorial rules HAD to be deleted, I think you're largely making up the topic of anti-Semitism and confusing disagreement with pro-Israel policies with anti-Semitism.

For you to imply that that article that covered 9/11 and Iran is not indirectly related Israel is disingenuous. Let's say someone wrote an article about Secy of State Hillary Clinton and VP Joe Biden. Does that not mean that President Obama is indirectly a topic and it's not off-topic to comment about him?

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:45AM

BS.

disagreeing with pro-Israel stances and disavowing any responsibility for the consequences of assuming that position go hand in hand. the problem with Paulistas...aide from their overwrought focus on their puerile, self pleasuring complexes masquerading as "Constitutionalism" and liberty...is their complete abdication from consequences. they don't give a rats arse about anything beyond the square footage they happen to occupy. they are completely willing to sacrifice all of us in the name of simplistic understandings of big concepts.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 2:22PM

Nelson was and is entirely typical of you Holocaust-denying AIPAC-bashing anti-semitic aPauling moRon supporters... which is why his comments should be left up as an indictment of all you Katyusha-humping Stormfronters.

Francisco D'Aconia| 11.23.11 @ 10:16PM

Your ignorance towards the ideals of Dr. Paul, namely individual liberty, is encapsulated very well in this so-called piece of "writing". Because, if you did understand these principles, you would know that the entire platform in which Dr. Paul stands is one that does not group people in terms of race, color, or religion. In fact, it is profoundly anti-racist. It's quite ironic that you cry racism toward a few anonymous Internet posts while you stereotype through stamping the accusation on all of Dr. Paul's supporters. Practice what you preach and you might someday be taken as a serious writer.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 3:15PM

Oh, we know all about his ideals! Here are some I found from browsing the articles at this link:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/?s=Ron+Paul

(Only the first is linked, as AS only permits two links per post)

9/11 is all America's fault!

The border fence for keeping illegal immigrants out (that we aren't even building) is meant to keep us in!

9/11 is all America's fault! We shouldn't have provoked those Islamists who've always hated us into hating us!

America is to blame for all the world's evils! But don't boo me and call me a traitor just because I hate America!

Did I mention America is to blame for Islamic extremism? We all know how non-extreme they were before America came on the scene!

How dare you kick me out of Young Americans for Freedom just because I hate America!

What could possibly be wrong with letting Islamists build a Ground Zero Mosque in New York to celebrate 9/11?

How dare Israel defend itself from the Islamists trying to destroy it by blockading its enemies' suppliers!

Did I mention I hate Abraham Lincoln for freeing the slaves by force? He totally could have bought them free instead! That's what the history books MY worshipers are writing say, anyway!

Al Qaeda hates us because we're occupiers. Or I should say, hates you, since I hate America too.

My supporters posted an anti-semitic poster at a Tea Party rally. But don't say I'm anti-semitic just because I hate Israel.

Blah blah blah crazy Tonkin conspiracy theory blah blah blah.

"No Blood For Jews!"

The Bhutto assassination is all America's fault! Everything bad in the world is all somehow America's fault! Did I mention I hate America?

Yeah, I think we've seen and heard quite enough of this blame-America-first Israel-bashing Jew-hating racist Nazi nutbag and his mindless soundbyte-chanting Stormfronter followers like you. You aPauling moRon cultists are the ones who haven't done the research and are hoping everyone else's memory of this fool's antics will somehow be as short and selective as your own.

Now go check out all the tasty candy in your parents' medicine cabinet, Francisco. That's the only way to ensure that all of this racist fascist quack's "ideals" will still somehow seem pro-American to you and not like the crazed ravings of a treasonous anti-semitic lunatic they are to all the more sane and rational minds around here.

ryan| 11.23.11 @ 10:20PM

thats a dirty thing to do, you cant blame ron paul for what his supporters do. And its not antisemitic to state a fact that goldSTEIN is a jewish name and that your articles are bias towards israel, and that bothers us that you put israel first and you play a important role in the american media. If we dont like our countries relationship with israel that doesnt make us anti semites. Just like if you dont like china it doesnt mean you hate asians it just means you dont like their governments policies.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 3:26PM

Like hell we can't. The reason he attracts you racist America-hating nutbags is because you know he's one of you and approves whole-heartedly of your America-bashing, Israel-bashing, racism, and anti-semitism, not to mention your loony 9/11 conspiracy theories, your Holocaust denialism, and your avowed support for all of America's enemies and hatred for its allies, as seen particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Your Messiah has been rolling around in all this mud for so long that no amount of dirt we can dish on him can possibly make him seem any more retarded, crazy, and treasonous than he's already known to be. The same goes for you. You Paulbots are completely out of touch with reality. I sometimes wonder how much LSD you have to ingest daily to maintain all those delusions of adequacy from which you're suffering.

Britton| 11.23.11 @ 11:09PM

The people are mad about the Zionist founding of Israel. It was never for being a safe haven for holocaust survivors. I suggest you not call anyone anti-semetic cause they're not. They have a good case. You just choose to turn the cold shoulder and hide behind the anti-semitism dirty trick. Our school systems continue to lie about mainline history. This is the real history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spm7QrODWLw

Kobus| 11.24.11 @ 12:14AM

Criticize War-Mongering and get called anti-Semite? This article is a TROLL

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 3:27PM

Criticize anti-semites for bashing Israel and get called a troll. That's how you Nazi Rontards are wired.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:48AM

sooo...refresh my memory...what is the signature legislation Ron Paul has master-minded? where has he demonstrated the persuasiveness and leadership needed to get differing interest groups to support his agenda? we want to elect Ron Paul in these exceptionally divisive times based on what track record? uh huh.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 1:27AM

might as well be the first to raise the matter: we want to elect a guy who will be 78 come Aug 2013?

Clint| 11.24.11 @ 3:16AM

Dr. Ron Paul,
" I’ve offered to ride a bicycle for 20 miles in Houston when the temperature is 100° and the humidity is 100% and I will go 20 miles with them and then we’ll decide who’s the youngest."

Dr.Ron Paul Would Have Carnot, The Court Fool Suckin' O's .

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 12:58PM

well...that settles it for me.....he deserves my vote cuz he can ride a bicycle!

you, of course, missed the subtlety in the question and mistook it to be focused on only physical matters - you guys need to go back and redo the playbook. this rote response has been paraded one too many times.

All Hail Stan Laurel!!!!

Dustin| 11.24.11 @ 1:52AM

I don't know any jews. I don't hate anyone based on characteristics they were born with. My opinions on topics regarding Israel and jews are completely objective.

This term "anti-semite" is interesting. If anti-semite is prejudice against jews, what do we call prejudice against semitic people? It seems to me that it is a common label for jews and those who sympathize with jews to toss around in a desperate attempt to assume victim status.

The implication is that anti-semites are bigots, ipso facto their opinions are at best irrelevant and at worst detrimental. It is also interesting to me that I often hear the anti-semite accusation coming from people who say very bigoted things towards Muslims, especially Palestinians.

Perhaps this is a clue as to why some Ron Paul sympathizers bring up Israel and jewishness seemingly unprompted. There is so much push from those who support Israel and who label those who do not support Israel as anti-semites, there is the percieved inherent adversarial relationship between sympathizers of Israel and sympathizers of Paul since Paul takes the position of ending welfare for Israel.

Contrary to claims of anti-jew prejudice towards Ron Paul's supporters, bigotry is diametrically opposed to the philosophy of liberty that Ron Paul advocates. So when the author attempts to designate Paul supporters as a collection of jew-haters, this seems to me to be either ignorant or blatantly disingenuous.

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 1:02PM

yawn.

there is philosophy and there are documented behaviors.

ok...I'll tip you in on a secret...why should anyone in his right mind even consider Paul as a candidate with good ideas? none of his supporters accord the same respect to any of the other candidates. in fact, so far as I have seen, it is the Paul supporters alone who have argued they will take their toys home and not support any other candidate than Paul. and the rest if us are supposed to view this as a responsible, adult approach to one of the great challenges of our time?

Richard Baker| 11.24.11 @ 2:54AM

Paul has about as much chance of being President as my dog. This libertarian Don Quixote tilts at windmills and forgets the world as it exists. I guess he thinks that Moslem expansionism and violence are none of our business. This is the same problem that the America Firsters had about Hitler and Tojo and look what that got us. WWII. You Paul supporters may have read about it in the papers.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 4:41AM

So you can predict the future with 100% certainty? Cool! You must be very rich picking all those winning stocks and lottery tickets.

You can think; your dog cannot. Sometimes they are more rational than humans though.

You say Ron Paul is delusional - that's your point right? So you want reality of course. If that is true, then tell me how bankrupting your country will make you safer. Please tell me.

Also, Iran has never invaded its neighbours. That is a fact. Do facts interest you? But of course you weren't talking about Iran when you say Muslims are violent and expanding. Or were you? If you were, please check your facts. You don't want to be delusional now, do you? You want reality, don't you?

You may want to look at who exactly here is deluded. Take a good look. Your country's future depends upon you seeing the truth.

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:22AM

We read the same propoganda you do!
We can better discern the truth!
Keep banging those war drums though!
Yes the world is a much uglier place, but its because of the wars!

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 1:03PM

make love not war! sounds familiar!

Clint| 11.24.11 @ 3:17AM

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Nobel Prize Economist, Milton Friedman,
"I strongly support Ron Paul. We very badly need to have more Representatives who understand in a principled way the importance of property rights and religious freedom."

Andrew Napolitano, Former Superior Court Judge,
"In his heart and in his head, in his character and in his intellect, in what he has done, and in what he will become: The Thomas Jefferson of our day... Ron Paul is one of us."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & In Iowa.

" Ron Paul is surging, an Iowa and New Hampshire front-runner and powerful third-party possibility
By Brent Budowsky - 11/21/11 10:04 AM ET

There are now multiple polls that show Ron Paul has gained support and has a legitimate chance to come in first or second in Iowa and New Hampshire. I would now call Ron Paul one of three front-runners in both Iowa and New Hampshire alongside Mitt Romney and a third candidate, currently Newt Gingrich. If Ron Paul wins Iowa, which he might, all bets are off. Also, most analysts miss the fact that many states have open systems where independents, and in some cases Democrats, can vote for a Republican nominee. This could give a further boost to Paul.

It is now time to give Ron Paul the attention he deserves in debates and throughout the political community."

thesquareglobe| 11.24.11 @ 5:39AM

Q: How is it that Ron Paul attracts people of such dubious character to support him?

A: Because Ron Paul supporters smoke loads and loads of pot and love to spend hours upon hours reading about conspiracy theories on the web.

Personally, I don't mind Mr. Paul that much, but his supporters drive me crazy.

Richard Baker| 11.24.11 @ 9:39AM

Jas Dal:
Another Paul fruitcake. You might want to look up the George Santayana on learning histories lessons quote and digest.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 12:22PM

Insults. Have you nothing more to defend your position? "Fruitcake". How many other childish insults can you come up with. Grow up. Act like an adult. Give some reasons for your positions. Have an adult discussion. Or just go ahead, be a child and insult people. Then go sulk in your room. Leave the discussion to the grownups.

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 12:47PM

Take your uppity collage talk back to hitler hall. There's nothing wrong with fruitcake its delicious and nutritional and speaking of fruitcakes when are we gonna round up them gays for their blatant gayness? That's all in the fitted I guess, then maybe we can deal with the black's her. Damn 13th amendment passed by fruitcakes.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 12:53PM

Tiny minds have tiny thoughts. Thanks for sharing one of them. Yep, let's deal with all them freakin' gays, blacks and other people you like to put in groups you can blame for your own problems. After that, there'll just be you and the fruitcake. I say let the fruitcake live. Please remove yourself next. We will all thank you for that.

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 1:02PM

Hold on now I blame native Americans for my problems, great great grandfather was yelled at by one and my family never recovered. First thing I do every morning is drive around looking for one of them dirty savages so I can get me some revenge. I ain't seen one yet but I will....

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 1:06PM

yes...he didn't get that he was being baited.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 1:47PM

Interesting. So you want to hurt someone who never did anything to you because someone else did something bad to you. That's pretty clear.

lester| 11.24.11 @ 10:13AM

Isn't this just more political correctness?

I have no idea what to say about topics like this.

" We aren't anti semites" !

FED UP| 11.24.11 @ 10:15AM

I will not apologize for a small faction that may have a bit of antisemitism. I shouldn't have to, I don't agree with that BS and I don't support their comments. Your commentary paints a broad stroke and implies ALL RP supporters hate jews. That is simply not true. Everyone (here) harps about RP not supporting aid to other countries but only focuses on Isreal. RP says ALL aid to all countries not just Isreal. There is no anti Isreal message in his words. Its just Isreal expects the aid and the comfort of US protection. BTW, no way would RP let anything happen to Isreal and besides Isreal is no wimp. They have a resolve and determination to exist and are a lot stronger than the rest of the world thinks!
If this money has to be spent on welfare programs (cause thats what foreign aid is) spend it on programs here. Get America healthy again. We can't help Isreal or any other country when we can't help ourselves first.
AMERICA NEEDS A DOCTOR!
BTW, I am a Native American male who has experienced bigotted and hurtfull treatment as well, but notice, religion or race never gets mentioned in any quotes by RP. You don't get rights or special treatment as groups. You get liberty and the personal responsibility as individuals.

Charlie Burgin| 11.24.11 @ 10:59AM

Remember the actions of a few do not represent the many I am a Ron Paul supporter and also a member of CUFI (Christians United For Israel) Ron Paul does not hate Israel or the Jewish people he is a stern believer in our Constitution thank you and G of Bless.

Charlie Burgin| 11.24.11 @ 11:02AM

I apologize that should say God Bless

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 12:16PM

What? This Guy, I want my president to be at the bec and call of Israel.I want him to really dislike and fear Muslims. I want him to send my family 5000 miles away to lose his arms and legs in the desert. I want him to round up those brown people here in America and put them in camps.I want to feel safe that the Guy at the 7eleven isnt gonna eat out of my garbage cans and knock my dog up.

screw israel| 11.24.11 @ 12:20PM

Jews have been kicked out of every country they've tried to settle in. They're the biggest exploiters the world has ever known. They're scum and should be eradicated once and for all

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 12:41PM

Racism is the mark of a closed and tiny mind. What is your hatred of a group of people based upon? You are 99.99999999 % genetically identical to any other human being on this planet. If your view is logical, you should eliminate yourself first. That should be your first step to help this world you live in. Are you willing to make the sacrifice to help humanity. Of course you are! You are a very intelligent human being. This would be the most rational thing for you to do. Please do it now and make this world a better place.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 2:15PM

Here we have one of aPauling moRon's typical supporters.

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 12:24PM

Oh and if my president hears the word nuclear he fires a couple missles off. We also need a broader definition of terrorist I think non American non Jew is a good start, then we can move on to more uppity folks here in America.

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 12:30PM

And all whining about rights hah you better take that mess on down the road, you got the right shut up and the right to my boot, you take that commy talk back to Moscow. Speaking of Moscow oh wait no Muslims there forget Moscow, unless Israel says there's Muslims there in that case Mr Pres hit that nuke button!

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 12:40PM

What also needs to be done is we need to start looking at some of those radical rastafarians because it would be pretty sweet to invade some Caribbean islands maybe call them American islands? For real though my need to start identifying Muslims maybe a numbered tattoo then get them rounded up, and maybe give them a "shower" then I wont be so scared anymore...

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 12:50PM

Yes, you sure are "scared". Nice solution you propose. Kill everyone you are scared of. Maybe grow some balls instead and stop being afraid of everyone. Hey, some people are afraid of you. How about you go take that "shower" you recommend and help us all not be scared about people like you anymore? Do it for love. You'll be helping the planet by not being on it.

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 12:55PM

Slow down there john Lennon that kinda talk sounds awfully terroristic, do you have a towel on your head? Are you under my bed? That's it I'm calling homeland securty! Oh damn I damn I just pee'd on myself a little...

carnot| 11.24.11 @ 1:10PM

Jas...gimme a break.....the dude agrees with you. he's playing a type to provoke responses. I don't agree with much you post but you seem like an earnest sort. don't get played by the folks on your side!

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 1:27PM

Yup bored killing time waiting on my Turkey to be done.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 2:06PM

Not really, Mr. carnot, not really. If someone proposes rounding up groups of people they hate and exterminating them - just to bait people into responding to their postings - in a world where hatred of others creates more and more pain and suffering in the world - then no, no I won't give you a break - or him either.

If you know your US history, you may know what terrible things have been done to individuals because people have looked upon them as belonging to a group they hate - instead of as the individual human beings - just as you are - that they are.

So, no, Mr. carnot, no. I object to playing with lynching, extermination of a people and hatred of groups to provoke fun little responses from people on the internet.

Instead of doing that, perhaps Mr. chippedtooth might want to propose honest and thoughtful solutions to the crisis the country is in right now.

Having fun with racism? Not so good.

chippedtooth| 11.24.11 @ 8:21PM

Try all you want get "through" to people on a message board that acusses Dr Paul supporters as bring antisemitic its pointless. Your time could be spent better elsewhere believe me.

Jas Dal| 11.26.11 @ 3:48AM

Sorry, but you do not support a non-racist like Ron Paul by throwing around your little racist kiddy play games so you can provoke responses while waiting for your turkey to cook.

I suggest you check the turkey more often and spend less time playing these little racist games.

If you truly support Ron Paul, you'll clean up your act. Be a man like he is and stop putting individuals in little group words you can then slam with insults. That is groupism and bigotry.

Not what a libertarian believes in at all: Liberty for individuals. Your racism sucks.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 3:40PM

Speak for yourself, Rontard. All the lamestream media would have to do to discredit this fool in the eyes of the entire American public would be to put one of his supporters on to argue with any of his detractors. Since none of you cultists of his know how to do anything but change the subject (typically to Israel and your nutty racist conspiracy theories about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion), televising your "support" would undermine him far more than anything his detractors could say.

He has neither the will nor the intelligence to distance himself from you, and that's why he will continue to be lumped together with you anti-semites and terrorist-loving Israel-bashers and blame-America-firsters. You are the mud in which he wallows; no one needs fling any more at him. His credentials are already irreparably stained with the company he's kept and continues to keep.

Jas Dal| 11.28.11 @ 7:18PM

Dear Eddie, how many more clever little ways did you learn to insult the other kids in Grade 1? You sure learned a lot of really good "bad" words! Go out and play with your little friends, then do your homework on Ron Paul (your grades are so very, very bad!), then go to bed. One day maybe you will grow up to be a real boy!

Eric Dondero | 11.24.11 @ 1:50PM

I worked for Ron Paul for 12 years as his senior staffer/personal aide. He is not an anti-Semite. I can attest, I never heard him utter a single anti-Jew word in my presence.

He is however, most certainly anti-Israel. He hates the very existence of Israel, and views it as a major problem for the U.S. His views are staunchly isolationist. Also, pacifist. Ron opposes the death penalty and all war for any reason.

He apologizes for Islamists far too much. I recall his initial reaction to us staffers on 9/11 hours after the jets hit the Towers. He shrugged, expressing no emotions for the thousands dead. Rather he focused in on the "evil" Bush and how he would soon crack down on civil liberties.

He did not support either the War in Afghanistan, and most certainly not the War in Iraq. Half our staff threatened to resign over his opposition to the Afghan War, weeks after 9/11. He finally relented - on the very final day of the vote - and supported the incursion, only as a practical matter, the viceral reaction he knew he was going to get in CD 14 from conservative voters in Victoria, Bay City and Brazoria County for not voting for the War.

Aaron Goldstein's article is correct. Though, Ron doesn't hate Jews, as some have charged, he most certainly does hate Israel, and all that it stands for.

Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul, 1997-2003
Publisher, LibertarianRepublican.net

Simon Templar| 11.25.11 @ 11:08AM

Eric, thank you for your honesty and sharing your experience with this subject with us.
It is great to see there are still some adults out there and adults with intellectual honesty and integrity.

Jas Dal| 11.26.11 @ 3:58AM

Well, Eric, "hate" is a strong word. Since you say you are so well-informed about the Doctor, please enlighten us as to the reasons for this passionate "hatred" you say he has. Surely 6 years of working closely with him, almost 2400 days, will have some incident, some little tidbit you can share. Give us some insight. Spread the news. You toss that word "hate" around a lot. A full explanation is required. "Hates Israel and all it stands for." Really? What is the basis of that, my friend, besides your fevered imagination? Please reply in full. Your deep insights are keenly waited for. Don't delay.

Margie| 11.24.11 @ 2:00PM

The World celebrates what it calls a day of thanksgiving.
Christians give thanks every day.
I wonder what the Paul-bots do on Thanksgiving?
Do they go "celebrate" with the OWSERS on Wall St?
How can they be thankful for a country that they live in that was formed by the Grace of God?

Do they curse America on a day like today? I mean, they believe that America is the "Aggressor" and all that. That we "Occupy" lands against their will, bomb little children on purpose along with the men and women, right?

What kind of day do they have today, or for that matter, any day?

MikeG| 11.24.11 @ 4:25PM

Now that is a cheerful Christian message of brotherly love on Thanksgiving.

Margie| 11.26.11 @ 9:57PM

Shallow lying Troll.
Repent and believe the Gospel of God.
Beginning with Mk. 1:1.

Jas Dal| 11.28.11 @ 7:14PM

Poor Margie, full of insults. Can't seem to find compassion or any of the spirit of Jesus in her dark soul. Those who believe they are the most righteous often appear in headlines when caught molesting children, pilfering church funds and ripping off the true and trusting Christians.

Does Jesus love your hatred, Margie? Maybe you believe it will get you into Heaven. Well, everyone has their dreams - and illusions.

Jas Dal| 11.24.11 @ 3:41PM

That's right, Margie, "Paulbots". Put people in a group. Then reduce that group to one word. Then use that word as an insult against the group. That is how racism, lynching, discrimination and war begins. In your mind. Then on the planet. You are contributing to that. Think about the consequences of you doing that. Take responsibility for adding more hatred to the world. Do you want to live in a world of hatred? If not, become the light you want to see in the world by avoiding hateful words to describe groups of people. See them as individuals if you want peace and love on this planet.

Well, indeed you are right. The US invaded several countries. It's missiles, planes and drones bomb the countries. Innocent women and children die. What would you do if another country did that to the US? Love it?

The "Grace of God", as you call it, created the whole universe - including every country on this Earth. The US is one country. The "Grace of God" is not unique to it.

Jesus also said "blessed are the peacemakers". You seem to believe in Jesus - yet promote the use of force against other countries to bend them to the will of the US. Did Jesus use force? Did Jesus like war?

Self-defence is one thing. Invading anther country, starving hundreds of thousands of women and children to death - denying them food and medicine - in Iraq over ten years with sanctions is, for want of a better word, "evil".

Your motives may be good - but the actions are evil. What would Jesus do? Starve and bomb the little children?

Think about what you are saying, please - at least do that much for children if you love them.

Matt| 11.25.11 @ 1:51AM

Ron Paul is the enemy of the Federal Reserve. Thats what makes him anti-semetic in the MSM. Jews dont own the FED your all nuts. Dont bother auditing it. You just dont understand. Its a public company. Its cool Elect Herman Cain the Pizza guy... yep eat your pizza kids. eat your pizza. Herman former kansas city fed cheif will fix us with more years of greenspan. oops he a jew.. man what a small world we live in were jews happend to be in the treasury and fed all the time. Geither and Bernake they are the greatest. Isreal is the best too... I love what they did to our guys on the USS Liberty. Great Ally.... wonder if they need to steal anymore of nuclear secrets.... wonder how they got there urianium.....mmm... i wonder... 80 nukes- Hey how bout we let them print money out of air and sell them all our gold from the treasury to pay for debt.... oh wait Traitor carter did that for us thanks bud

Kenneth| 11.25.11 @ 6:35AM

Mr. Goldstien, I am one of Ron Pauls supporters. I want to take this opportunity to say that I am not racist or anti semetic, in fact I have nothing against jews. I have no choice but to consider YOU a bigot. A bigot of truth! You however are an idiot. Just because Ron doesn't want to give my tax dollars to Isreal does not mean he is against jews. You do believe in working for youself don't you? Your also a terrible writer. Maybe go back to school huh?

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 3:50PM

Up yours, Rontard. Your Messiah called Israel's defensive blockade an "act of war" Yeah, sure your Nazi Messiah doesn't hate Jews. He just wants to make sure their enemies are all heavily supplied with the weapons they need to kill them all. Big difference there, really. Ken, don't your arms ever get tired giving your beloved Fuhrer all those sieg heils when he bashes Israel for defending itself?

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 3:50PM

Up yours, Rontard. Your Messiah called Israel's defensive blockade an "act of war" Yeah, sure your Nazi Messiah doesn't hate Jews. He just wants to make sure their enemies are all heavily supplied with the weapons they need to kill them all. Big difference there, really. Ken, don't your arms ever get tired giving your beloved Fuhrer all those sieg heils when he bashes Israel for defending itself?

Simon Templar| 11.25.11 @ 10:50AM

There is an old saying that silence is consent.
I have been coming out to this site for nearly 4 years and have been subjected to the most virulent anti-Israeli and anti-semite rhetoric that
I have ever heard coming from Clint and Jackbott from WI, big supporters of Ron Paul. In all that time I have never, NEVER seen a denunciation of their diatribes and name calling and attacks by ANY other Ron Paul supporter. So, please, give me a break from the lame back tracking and bullshit about Goldstein being unfair and brushing with a wide brush all his supporters.

His point that he is waiting for a denunciation is more than valid and it is utterly dishonest that many of the Paulbots here, yeah you heard that right, are attempting to coverup and deny the virulent strain of anti-semitism within their ranks. Stop also the whining about being called Paulbots and the hypocricy. I have heard the neo-conservative insult so many times I can not think of Ron Paul without the word popping in my head along side his name.

Just what is it that many of us base this charge of anti-semitism on in regards to these supporters of Ron Paul? Let us set aside the obvious Isreal Firster rhetoric and let that go for now. It is the constant barrage of falsehoods and distortions of the conflict there in that part of the world, our association with Israel, and the history of Israel that I daily encounter on this site with Paul's supporters. It is one thing altogether to take the position that we are too involved in these conflicts and some of our policy may be too militaristic and not diplomatic enough, but to make such falshoods, lies, and distortions to bolster a position of abandoning Israel as an ally is more than suspect as being intellectual dishonest but also jew hating.

Yeah, let us take a good look at the truth that you so love when it suits you. You want more than just your tax dollars not going to Israel. Hey, if that was all you wanted we would not be having this argument about your anti-semitic rhetoric and your daily lies and distortions about the nation and its very existence that you seem to have a major problem with. Yeah, let us pretend you did not have any more demands than ending foreign aid.

There comes a time when social debate and discourse ends. That point has been reached with your ilk. I think the nation is getting sick of your intellectual dishonesty and your liberalism disguised as conservativism. Your aggressiveness and your jackboot style is another matter.

So, Aaron, remember this. There are many of us out here including myself that are not fooled nor are willing to tolerate and suffer these fools. So, keep writing, stand firm brother, we got your back. When the fighting starts we will be there and will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you.

NEVER AGAIN.

George| 11.25.11 @ 5:46PM

Real cute speech Simon. Are you going to volunteer for the Israeli Army or are you going to sit in your basement typing your little comments so that American boys will fight? Who is "we?"
I don't see you objecting to the daily homosexual taunts by your friends dr right and conchef to Ron Paul supporters, and I don't see you objecting to the daily anti Catholic comments by your other friend margie. You seem to have a selective tolerance that recognizes only perceived anti semitism

Simon Templar| 11.28.11 @ 12:31AM

No George, I need not volunteer fot the Israeli Army as Israel has never asked us to fight for them in 6o years and has only asked for diplomatic support. Once again your intellectual dishonesty shines through your lame retorts. We, are all red blooded Americans, republicans and democrats, whatever that recognize that our interest as a free nation is invariably tied with our allies and those nations that stand in direct conflict and resistance to tyranny and also to those that seek to destroy our way of life, our values, and our peoples. We, are people that recognize the resurgence of anti-semitism in europe and many parts of the world and will stand and fight if necessary to prevent another holocaust or persecution of Jews wherever it happens.

My friends, Dr Right and others, as far as I have seen have only reacted to the the homosexual references and taunts thrown by Clint and others.
If you are going to dish it out, you better be willing to take it. Margie has a viewpoint that is her own on matters of religion that do have some basis in fact and history about the catholic church. You may disagree with her viewpoint but I would not call it anti catholic per se. I do not believe she is advocating the extermination of catholics or that diplomatic relations with the Vatican be terminated by the US. Nor would she advocate abandoning Rome and the vatican to foreign aggressors. Nor do I find her making up complete falsehoods about catholics, their history, and their beliefs.

I think you need to address my comments rather than attempt to misdirect and get me to defend others. That by the way is a classic liberal misdirection technique. Cute, but lame.

Jas Dal| 11.26.11 @ 4:06AM

Check the posts above, Simon. Lots or anti-racist rebuttals there. Your "never, NEVER" is a bit hollow if you look at the facts.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 4:05PM

Check out the posts in response to his original article. You Rontards sure spend a lot of time trying to cover for your earlier racism and bigotry when you get called on it. I always did wonder why the Nazis spent so much time near the end of World War II covering up the genocidal atrocities they were originally proud to have committed for their Fuhrer. Now I know.

In you hypocrites and your fascist Messiah, I see the very same schizophrenic mentality as the Nazis had. I can almost imagine their apologia for his stated positions sounding just like yours: "Hitler is not a bigot and Jew-hater just because he blames Jews for all the world's problems and thinks Germany would be better off without them! No, you're the bigots for just automatically assuming his Final Solution to the Jewish Question is genocide!"

The jig is up, Rontards. We've caught your anti-semitic racist Messiah spewing racism and anti-semitism, and you chiming in. Your selective amnesia won't make the damning evidence from his history disappear, and we'll rub your faces in it again every chance we get.

Jas Dal| 11.28.11 @ 6:51PM

Wow! Your childish name-calling substituting for intelligent argument is - well, expected of course. Those who cannot provide reasons as adults should go to the playground and shout their insults at other children. No doubt, the kids will thing an adult shouting at them is an idiot. But do try it. You may convince them. If you want to converse as an adult, try polite discourse and have logical reasons for your positions. But you can choose to act like a spoiled child if you like. Just don't expect to be treated like an adult until you learn to act like one.

Simon Templar| 11.28.11 @ 12:39AM

Once again, you do not read. I have never seen a Ron Paul supporter take to task the likes of Clint and hold him to the fire. You can deny all day long, after the fact, that you are not anti-semites but we did indeed read your attacks on Israel, the distortions of their history, and the misinformation about the middle east conflicts that you spewed out the weeks before this column came out. In fact many of us here played merry go round with you bastards time and time again in past columns regarding Israel, Jews, and a few choice words like sand monkeys from one of your most vocal. Please do not talk to me about facts as you would not recognize one if it jumped up and kicked you in the teeth.

Jas Dal| 11.28.11 @ 6:53PM

"bastards", "spewed", "sand monkeys"? Sad to see another insulting child using emotion instead of logic. Worth repeating: "Wow! Your childish name-calling substituting for intelligent argument is - well, expected of course. Those who cannot provide reasons as adults should go to the playground and shout their insults at other children. No doubt, the kids will thing an adult shouting at them is an idiot. But do try it. You may convince them. If you want to converse as an adult, try polite discourse and have logical reasons for your positions. But you can choose to act like a spoiled child if you like. Just don't expect to be treated like an adult until you learn to act like one."

Ken G.| 11.25.11 @ 5:48PM

I support Ron Paul and I am not anti-semite. While there may be anti-semites supporting Mr. Paul, as I am certain there are also anti-semites supporting Mr. Romney, Mr. Gingrich, and Ms. Bachman, and certainly Mr. Obama. However, the rabid support for Isreal not matter what is not in the best interest of the United States. I would, and do, support the rights and freedoms of every American, be they Jew, Christian, or Hindu. However, that does not translate into blindly support Isreal at any cost. Isreal is a foreign country, not a U.S. principality. Just because they happen to be Jewish does not automatically translate into our support of their policies and actions, no matter the cost to the U.S. I still remember how they killed U.S. sailors on the Liberty, how they have stole our military secrets, and how even today they are one of the worlds most active cyber warriors, even attacking the United States. Support the freedom of Judaism, as we support all religions within the United States. But, at the end of the day, the United States comes first. We have paid dearly, both in coin and in blood, in our support of Isreal, and really, what do we get in return?

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 4:41PM

Israel is our foul-weather friend. Ron Paul is a fair-weather opportunist who hates America and blames all of our enemies on us. Israel destroyed Osiraq and did other great things for us. Ron Paul has never done a damn thing for us, and regularly bashes us for supporting Israel. In return for supporting Israel, we get a friend who draws the majority of the terrorist fire away from us onto its own civilians and soldiers. In return for listening to terrorist-loving traitors like Ron Paul, you get your mind poisoned with Nazi propaganda (like that BS you just spouted about Israel "stealing" our secrets) calling for us to betray our friends and embrace our enemies.

The sooner we rid our fair nation of parasites and traitors like you and your Messiah and all of his worshipers and embrace Israel, the sooner we recover from the wounds our terrorist enemies have dealt us (9/11, for one). The sooner you treasonous Rontards get your way, the sooner this whole nation will die and come apart in bloody rags while the rest of the world plunges into a war between multiple religious and ideological factions that will make World War II and its atrocities look like a minor skirmish by comparison.

You Rontard cultists never seem to realize just how dedicated our enemies are to Islamic world domination, and how great a shield Israel has been to us from the worst of their wrath. The real question is not what Israel has done for us, but rather what has your traitor Messiah ever done for us? He's never even had a kind word for our nation, let alone done anything to benefit us. Really, what hasn't he done to merit being stood up against a wall and shot for the traitor he is? He regularly gives aid and comfort to the Islamists while bashing our allies. The sooner we're rid of your evil quack and his vile sideshow, the better.

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 11.26.11 @ 10:55AM

Your Jewish blood and religion isn't the problem. The problem is that you believe that Americans of all races, ethnicities and religious beliefs should be willing to fight and die for Israel and that American taxpayer dollars should continue to flow into the Jewish state. If American Jews and their Evangelical Christian buddies want to volunteer for the IDF to fight Iran, Hezbollah and Assad's Syrian forces then by all means they should catch the next flight to Tel Aviv. Ron Paul is right when he says that it is "OUR ACTIONS" in the Middle East over the past several decades that have turned the region into a hornets nest of anti-American dissent and our support for the apartheid state of Israel (that was built upon the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians a large number of whom were Christian) is a major part of creating that hornets nest. The Shia revolution in Iran circa 1979 would have never taken place if it wasn't for the U.S. overthrowing Mossadegh and replacing him with the Shah.

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 5:16PM

Ron Paul is a damned liar and a fool, as are you when you claim the extremely marginal minority of Hell-bound Marcionite heretics among those ethnic Jordanian squatters are "Christians" in any meaningful sense. The Islamists have been attacking Christian nations since long before Columbus discovered the Americas. The pseudo-nation of "Palestine" is the apartheid state, not Israel, and Iran was bound to be a theocratic dictatorship no matter what the USA did. Get your hand down and stop sieg-heiling, you Satan-worshiping Rontard.

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 11.27.11 @ 12:31AM

The original Israelites gave up their inheritance when they rejected the New Covenant and denied the Messiah. Those Jews who accepted the Messiah became numbered with the children of God (Christians of both Jewish heritage and Gentile heritage alike) and part of the new Jerusalem (the Orthodox Church). The descedants of the original Israelis who left the land that would later be called Palestine have no legitimate claims on the land and especially no Biblical claims on the land. The land belongs to those who were there (including Jews) before the zionist European Jews arrived and that land is Palestine. What you are espousing is called Darbyism and it is by any traditional Christian standard considered heresy.

Margie| 11.27.11 @ 5:47PM

"part of the new Jerusalem (the Orthodox Church)."

FALSE!

The new Jerusalem spoken of in the Bible is the Body of Believers the world over and has NOTHING to do with ANY DENOMINATION, and especially not Catholic whose cult of murderers tortured and killed millions of Christians since its very beginning and has still not repented of its false teachings!

You need to repent and believe the God of the Bible, and HIS GOSPEL.

READ ROMANS !! which states in part:

"I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin..... So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace..... So I ask, have they stumbled so as to fall? By no means! But through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean! ...And even the others, if they do not persist in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. ...Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in.. ..and so all Israel will be saved. ..As regards the gospel they are enemies of God, for your sake; but as regards election they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers...For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."

Margie| 11.27.11 @ 5:48PM

Romans 11, that is.

Jas Dal| 11.28.11 @ 7:04PM

Instead of quoting the bible, try living as Jesus suggested you live: without judgement and with compassion for all of your fellow individual human travelers who are on this journey with you in this life. Fundamentalist Christians don't seem to like compassion much; they seem to prefer nuking the little children that Jesus wanted you to let come to him. Do you prefer the children incinerated or just really dead any way you can make that happen?

And we don't need to do anything. If you feel you need to "repent" then go do it - and leave the rest of us alone. I'd rather burn in Hell for all eternity than have to live with a "christian" like you in Heaven.

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 11.26.11 @ 11:09AM

I don't deny that I am an anti-zionist, but zionism and Judaism are too different things. You know very well Mr. Goldstein that there are Jews (ultra Orthodox Jews at that) who reject the zionist state of Israel. Now does being someone who sides with Palestinians (especially the small Palestinian Christian minority many of whom are fellow Orthodox Christians as myself) over the interest of zionist European Jews make me an anti-semite? I am not a racialist by any means. I am an Orthodox Christian with Christian brothers and sisters who are Slavs, Arabs, Greeks, Romanians, Gypsies, Aleutians, Africans and even some Jewish converts. Why is it that if you are not a supporter of the state of Israel you are automatically considered by many to be a "Jew hater"?

Eddie| 11.26.11 @ 5:07PM

If you bash Israel in God's name, you are no Christian. If you side with those genocidal ethnic Jordanian terrorists squatting on Israel's rightful inheritance who celebrated 9/11 by throwing a big street party, you are a racist, a murderer, and one of Satan's disciples no matter what else you claim to be. (After all, as noted in Matthew 7:21-23, a lot of Satan's disciples will claim to have done miracles and driven out demons in God's name. If all those amazing feats couldn't get them into Heaven, what makes you think your nominal Orthodoxy will score you anything from God?)

If you side with any of the Jews' enemies in the Middle East, you are automatically considered a Jew-hater for the same reason anyone who sided with the Wehrmacht is automatically considered a Jew-hater. Really, how hard is this concept for you anti-semitic dissemblers to understand!?

os| 11.26.11 @ 6:17PM

Eddie,

So what you really want is a president that's willing to use U.S. military might to fulfill Biblical prophecies?

hal| 11.27.11 @ 7:44AM

CHOO gOt iT MANg!

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 11.27.11 @ 12:42AM

Your Christianity and mine cannot coexist. Yours is heresy and mine is Orthodoxy (or right belief). The Israel of the end times is not the secular state of Israel but "The Church" that Jesus Christ himself established and the Israelites are His flock (Orthodox Christians of all ethnic backgrounds, cultures and customs) not the Jews who have rejected their Messiah. You will be gravely disappointed if you believe God is going to "rapture" you up before the tribulation of the end times. However you can take comfort in the fact that no one but God knows when that time will be and how it will play out. You can't claim that you know more than God no matter how many times you read the Holy Scriptures. Only God knows these things and traditional Christians (both Orthodox and Catholic alike) rightly consider a literal interpretation of the Bible to be heresy precisely because only God can know these things.

Julian Alien| 11.26.11 @ 5:55PM

I am a Ron Paul supporter and I am all for Sephardic Jews.They have a right to live in the land now called Israel.Those white slaving troglodite Ashkenazi are a different story.Renounce Zionism and I will give some respect,but what they are doing over there is evil and the world knows it.Tat land was promised to them by them and no one else especially God.

hal| 11.27.11 @ 6:54AM

Hey stoopid ..WE ARE NOT ANTI JEW - WE ARE ANTI JEW WARS ,WHICH WE ARE ALWAYS FIGHTING!

hook| 12.20.11 @ 6:18PM

If we simply look at some of the comments above, it is easy to see Paul attracts anti-Semites. It also doesn't seem to bother him. He also attracts other forms of racism. The irony is that these scags who support him would be left far behind in the domestic Libertarianism Paul advocates. I am not sure Paul is personally anti-Semitic but he is anti foreign aid and is so naive that he makes Obama look like Churchill.

chuck| 12.20.11 @ 9:07PM

Asking Ron Paul 2 denounce there behavior? Thats a personal responsibility. What do u think this is all about?

k| 12.21.11 @ 1:06PM

One just has to read websites like Stormfront and Vanguard News Network

One Just has to read the old Ron Paul Newsletters

One Just has to see the comments from almost all Ron Paul supporters

Ron Paul is a racist, he is the #1 enemy of the Jews, people like Ron Paul should be defeated in any way possible

J| 4.15.12 @ 10:24PM

The simple truth is that the United States and Israel are TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES!!! It shouldn't be America's responsibility to protect Israel. Israel does a pretty good job of pissing off the Arab world by allowing open violence against Palestenians to be perpetrated by members of their military and not condemning the behaviour, and then they rely on the backing of the US government to save them from international persecution and ridicule. Why the United States has put up with this for as long as they have is beyond me. And now whenever anyone affiliated with the United States government says that we're not going to support Israel, they automatically become an anti-semite!!?! Why can't Israel take care of themselves? and there's clearly plenty of evidence that the government of Israel is anti-Arabic and anti-Islam. They diminish non-Jewish people to second class status in Israel, even if they were born there. There is no separation of church and state. 92% of the land in Israel is restricted to be resided in by only Jews, anyone else cannot live there. Jews in this country seem curiously eager to shout anti-semitism, but seem to completely ignore the atrocities Israel is committing against gentiles at the same time, which are governmentally sanctioned discriminations which would never happen in this country. I think that many Jews in this country falsely identify with Israeli Jews when in reality the two groups have become very different over the centuries, and many American Jews view criticism of Israel as anti-semitic and critical of all Jews when really it's not- it's a criticism of the human rights violations that the government of Israel is committing. I also think it's comical that Israel tries to call America anti-semitic- Anti-semitic, you say? Fine, we've only got the largest Jewish population in the world, and Jews are overrepresented in our government.

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