U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina said at an American
Spectator Newsmaker Breakfast this morning that her primary
opponent, Chuck DeVore, could not beat Sen. Barbara Boxer in a
general election because Boxer knows how to win against "white
men."
Fiorina focused her opening remarks on contrasting herself with
Boxer, who she painted as a liberal Democrat who has not
accomplished much during her three terms in office and has
advanced tax, spending, and regulatory policies that have
crippled California's economy.
When asked what set her apart from DeVore, she said that they
agreed on the issues, but that she wasn't a career politician and
she had a better chance of beating Boxer.
"He is an honorable man," Fiorina said of DeVore. "He has every
right to run. But he cannot beat Barbara Boxer."
She continued, "With all due respect and deep affection for white
men -- I'm married to one -- but [Boxer] knows how to beat them.
She's done it over and over and over."
Diane DeVore, Chuck's wife, responded on Twitter
that, "Carly, I'm married to that 'white guy' & I can tell u
he can win against mods and libs. Has record to prove it!"
Fiorina said her strategy was to "bang away at [Boxer's] voting
record, from which she cannot hide." Fiorina also used the
morning to expand on her beliefs on a wide range of issues
including taxes, spending, the role of unions, and abortion. She
also defended her record as CEO of Hewlett-Packard. Fiorina
described herself as a fiscal and social conservative.
"I am pro-life," Fiorina said. "I believe that life begins at
conception." She also said she supported the Stupak amendment in
the House health care bill that bars women from using government
subsidies to purchase policies that cover abortion.
I asked her to clarify her comments given that labels can mean
different things to different people, and some who may describe
themselves as personally pro-life may still believe that
individual women should have the right to choose abortion.
"Well, that is the situation in the world today," Fiorina
responded. "That is reality. What I think about it is, I'm not
sure, relevant to the job I'm seeking other than of course
Supreme Court nominees, but the reality is that a woman can walk
into Planned Parenthood today and get an abortion. Now, I believe
we should all be working to limit the number of abortions, so in
that sense, no I do not believe that everyone should have that
choice. But they do today. I'm just trying to be realistic.
That's why I think this Stupak amendment is so important, and
frankly, I think the debate the Stupak amendment has created is
quite instructive about what the motivations mean behind some of
these things. I believe that life begins at conception and I
believe we must protect the rights of the unborn. And I believe
that science continues to demonstrate that a fetus is viable at a
younger and younger age, and I know, as a realist, that not
everyone agrees with me. So the common ground that we can find is
how to reduce abortions."
She also said that she believed in the sanctity of marriage as
being between a man and a woman, and said she voted for
Proposition 8, the California ballot measure to amend the state
constitution to keep marriage between a man and a woman.
Responding to a question about her position on U.S. Supreme Court
nominations, she said that she "probably" would have voted to
confirm Sonia Sotomayor because "elections have consequences" and
"she seemed qualified." Fiorina cautioned that she was dealing
with her own breast cancer at the time and thus was not in a
position to closely examine the judge's record.
Fiorina said that she was opposed to bailouts and President
Obama's economic stimulus package. Instead, she said, she
supports low taxes and spending, and described the nation's debt
as "unsustainable."
In response to a question about the dominant role of public
sector unions in her state, she said that "there is growing anger
in California over the vice grip that unions have over the
state." She said that they have a disproportionate influence
relative to the amount of workers they represent.
She said that she would bring an outsider's perspective to
Washington as somebody who had spent her business career
balancing billion-dollar budgets. She defended her tenure at HP,
saying that she managed to double the size of the company during
a severe "tech recession," and created jobs on a net basis. While
she did outsource, she said it was only because California's tax
code makes it difficult to employ people in the state. Remarking
on her ouster from the company, she argued that subsequent
revelations that her successor was spying on her and other board
members vindicated her.
She said she wasn't too concerned about polls showing her within
a point of DeVore, noting that her campaign was just starting and
he's been campaigning for 18 months, and the primary isn't until
June.
Asked whether she expected Sarah Palin to endorse a candidate in
the race, Fiorina said she didn't know. But she added, "I share
Sarah Palin's values."
UPDATE: A DeVore spokesman emails to say he has been running for
12 months.
Carly is a liar! Created jobs on a net basis??? Is she joking??
Right, when you include the people who came over from Compaq -
but what about the 40000 who were laid off!
rt| 11.23.09 @ 12:58PM
why do you Establishment types keep promoting RINOs like Fiorina?
She's nothjing but an opportunist politician like all the rest of
them lying RINOs they talk a good talk and stab us conservatives
in the back when it comes to the votes. She's another one of them
liberal goo goos from the Bay area with no clue what a
conservative is or what it menas. STOP promoting people like her
and her ilk are u listening Meg Whitman????? Stay out cuz we are
never going to vote for Dem lite ever again!
Brian in Scottsdale| 1.8.10 @ 2:56PM
I feel your fear. On the surface she seems to be playing all of
the right notes, but I can't shake her association with McCain
who seems to be the standard for room terperature IQ RINO
"Self-Servants". Here in AZ, we are praying that Hayworth will
run against him.
Oldefarte| 11.23.09 @ 1:00PM
Fiorina ran an international business and would bring
conservative managerial expertise and business discipline and
ideas to the senate. Boxer is nothing but a typical liberal from
California, ie Brown, Waxman, Pilosi,etc; and needs to be
defeated [if the people of California are smart enough]. With the
state bleeding money with their deficit problems, they had better
start electing politicians like Fiorina if they want to
survive!!!!
daboss| 11.23.09 @ 2:18PM
You mean she nearly destroyed an international company …the
running joke at HP was how did Compaq buy HP with HP’s money …
Their whole product line was replaced with Compact’s. All that
survived was the printer business. They even adiosed the PA-RISC
chip. Probably the most advanced CPU of the time.
Lets hope she is a better politician than executive.
"Elections have consequences". Seems like I heard that line
somewhere before...lemme see...wait a minute....GOT IT! That is
exactly what Lindsey Grahamnesty said to justify his support for
a nominee that he went after in questioning. The idea that just
because someone won an election they should not be opposed
because "Elections have consequences" is ridiculous, and a path
to the continuing socialization of the country.
…Toomey in Pennsylvania, but that I would not give money to the Republican party to support candidates like Scozzafava. Thanks for all your great work. *** More on the Fiorina appearance at AmSpec from Philip Klein. Posted in: GOP, NY-23, Sonia Sotomayor Printer Friendly comments (46) trackbacks (0) See what others have said Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.c…
Blacque Jacques Shellacque| 11.23.09 @ 1:55PM
Didn't she get her golden parachute from HP?
She needs to retire someplace, enjoy her $20M or whatever else is
left of it, and leave the rest of us alone.
…media to focus on that one controversial comment and ignore the other things she’s been saying. Indeed, the headline of the American Spectator post which Michelle links focuses on that aspect of her remarks this morning at an American Spectator Newsmaker Breakfast while the text of the post indicates she spelled our her position on a broad range of issues, showing herself to be a truly mainstream…
darcy| 11.23.09 @ 4:18PM
Oh, yes, elections have consequences, Carly.
Let me show you how the dems handle it:
[F]ight aggressively from day one; "Fifty-six million people came
out and voted for John Kerry to defeat George Bush. Those 56
million people are counting on those Democrats to get in there
and fight for them."
Implement a "stonewall stratgegy . . . [don't] budge."
Put out a circular instructing that Bush is not to be permitted
ANY successes!!! Like Howard Dean.
The democrats fight with howitzers and the republicans respond
with picnics. That's because they BOTH want the same things:
power, prestige, and control -- and they'll take whatever road
necessary, assume any posture whatever, to leach the American
taxpayer and achieve their goal.
Corrupt, noxious, and pernicious blood-suckers, that's what 90%
of politicians are.
Carly -- let's not forget -- was a HUGE fan and promoter of John
McCain and both of them, two fat-cat RINOs seek only to further
entrench their power at the expense of our pocketbooks and
freedoms.
HELL NO. The people erect -- even as I write -- a wall under,
over, around, or through which RINOs will no longer pass. Our
tolerance has ended; our eyes are open, and our aim is sure.
We're huntin' RINOs, and whenever and wherever we sniff them out,
we will dispatch them to retirement, where they belong -- at
present, through the voting booth.
If that fails, it's time for the tar and feathers and the pillory
stocks.
…in her chat, Fiorina demonstrated one of the values that she shares with Palin, which is flip-flopping on last fall’s bank bailout. Fiorina told the reporters at the Spectator breakfast that she opposed bailouts: Fiorina said that she was opposed to bailouts and President Obama’s economic stimulus package. Instead, she said, she supports low taxes and spending, and described the nation’s debt…
…Rogue Elephant posted this in Fresh Juice on November 23rd, 2009 Senate candidate Cary Fiorina has made it clear who wears the pants in her Senate Republican Primary – Chuck Devore. Fiorina told the American Spectator that she can beat Barbara Boxer because Boxer knows how to win against “white men”. “With all due respect and deep affection for white men — I’m married to…
SoCon| 11.23.09 @ 8:48PM
darcy, I like your style! Tar and feathers would be fun, wouldn't
it?
Spicy Joker| 11.23.09 @ 10:38PM
Carly Fiorina looks like more of a white man than Chuck DeVore.
Since Ted’s Death Holbrooke briefs ahead of Obama Afghan powwow »» Remainders: Crist fires back at Rubio Crist takes on Rubio directly. Donald Trump fundraising for Crist. Fiorina talks girl power to conservatives. Romanoff’s unimpressive start as a Senate candidate. Simmons takes on McMahon over KSM trial. Alex Sink friendly with Rothstein. Dahlkemper challenger was a Dem until…
…candidates talk the talk about protecting taxpayers. Yesterday, Senate candidate Carly Fiorina announced her credentials as a fiscal conservative (among other things), in her “White Men Can’t Jump Over Barbara Boxer” interview with American Spectator. But, she said more. Fiorina also voiced concern over California’s overpowerful public employee unions. “There is growing anger…
…candidates talk the talk about protecting taxpayers. Yesterday, Senate candidate Carly Fiorina announced her credentials as a fiscal conservative (among other things), in her “White Men Can’t Jump Over Barbara Boxer” interview with American Spectator. But, she said more. Fiorina also voiced concern over California’s overpowerful public employee unions. “There is growing anger…
Kirstin| 11.24.09 @ 10:52AM
Fiorina shares Palin's values ... but during the McCain-Palin
campaign, she said that Palin (and McCain) would not be able to
do her job. How helpful.
Fiorina and Whitman may be preferable to the Dem candidates, but
I prefer their challengers in the Rep primary.
Gender Identity Politics: a Fiorina faux pas? | The Persistent Conservative The Persistent Conservative - Home Opinion Podcast Politics Rants and Raves Posts RSS / Comments RSS Gender Identity Politics: a Fiorina faux pas? Nov 24, 2009 Author bccohan…
Jim P.| 11.26.09 @ 2:32AM
Fiorina is so damn annoying. She wrecks Lucent, then wrecks HP.
She was not respected by the employees at either company. She
wasn't technically savvy, and she wasn't a strong charasmatic
leader. She was an empty suit that was eventually run out of HP.
Now she pops back up as the latest RINO. Wonderful. Please go
away Carly - we need to get behind Devore 100%.
levotb| 11.28.09 @ 4:44AM
No one here has mentioned Fiorina's being like so many big
business CEOs/Republicans are--Open Borders and weak on the
Invasion by Mexico (aka illegal immigration). Chuck DeVore isn't
particularly strong on it either but I'd vote for him over
Fiorina any day. We don't need another ball-busting feminist in
the U.S. Senate--too many of those as it is! DeVore is a fiscal
conservative Libertarian, by the way. He feels that we've lost
the battle against illegal immigration due to "the numbers game"
and that he cannot win running on an anti-Invasion platform. I
think he's mistaken, but that's what his political advisors I
assume have told him--"leave illegal immigration alone". Big
mistake. He should take it and run with it! People are angry and
want their jobs an homes back. We can't do it with 10
million-plus illegals in CA living off the taxpayers, closing
hospitals, etc. Get rid of many of the illegals and we'll have
lower rents and many jobs available in these really tough times.
…and clear what she stands for – all talk, no action. Carly Fiorina raises the issue of public employee unions in every interview, but offers no solution. She raised the issue in her White Men Can’t Jump Over Boxer interview with American Spectator. Now, she has raised the issue again in an interview with Wall Street Journal. In this latest talk, “Ms. Fiorina also chides Ms. Boxer for the…
…and clear what she stands for – all talk, no action. Carly Fiorina raises the issue of public employee unions in every interview, but offers no solution. She raised the issue in her White Men Can’t Jump Over Boxer interview with American Spectator. Now, she has raised the issue again in an interview with Wall Street Journal. In this latest talk, “Ms. Fiorina also chides Ms. Boxer for the…
NOW: Scott Brown’s win was a victory for … sexism, or something (UPDATE: FIORINA PLAYS THE IDENTITY POLITICS GAME – AGAIN) « Sister Toldjah All about life, liberty and the pursuit of hopeiness. Home About Contact Site Policy Media…
…late to pull off that gigundo feat). We want the Senate occupied with common sense conservatives who already have an established track record proving they’re who they claim to be. We don’t see that in Carly Fiorina. who said she would have voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. So we we’re wondering what Sarah sees in her that we don’t. Now we know. It’s about…
NewYorkRob| 6.3.10 @ 3:07PM
What? Not the Barbara "Don't call me ma'am..." Boxer!?
Saywhat?| 11.23.09 @ 12:45PM
Carly is a liar! Created jobs on a net basis??? Is she joking?? Right, when you include the people who came over from Compaq - but what about the 40000 who were laid off!
rt| 11.23.09 @ 12:58PM
why do you Establishment types keep promoting RINOs like Fiorina? She's nothjing but an opportunist politician like all the rest of them lying RINOs they talk a good talk and stab us conservatives in the back when it comes to the votes. She's another one of them liberal goo goos from the Bay area with no clue what a conservative is or what it menas. STOP promoting people like her and her ilk are u listening Meg Whitman????? Stay out cuz we are never going to vote for Dem lite ever again!
Brian in Scottsdale| 1.8.10 @ 2:56PM
I feel your fear. On the surface she seems to be playing all of the right notes, but I can't shake her association with McCain who seems to be the standard for room terperature IQ RINO "Self-Servants". Here in AZ, we are praying that Hayworth will run against him.
Oldefarte| 11.23.09 @ 1:00PM
Fiorina ran an international business and would bring conservative managerial expertise and business discipline and ideas to the senate. Boxer is nothing but a typical liberal from California, ie Brown, Waxman, Pilosi,etc; and needs to be defeated [if the people of California are smart enough]. With the state bleeding money with their deficit problems, they had better start electing politicians like Fiorina if they want to survive!!!!
daboss| 11.23.09 @ 2:18PM
You mean she nearly destroyed an international company …the running joke at HP was how did Compaq buy HP with HP’s money …
Their whole product line was replaced with Compact’s. All that survived was the printer business. They even adiosed the PA-RISC chip. Probably the most advanced CPU of the time.
Lets hope she is a better politician than executive.
Eric Damon| 11.23.09 @ 1:12PM
"Elections have consequences". Seems like I heard that line somewhere before...lemme see...wait a minute....GOT IT! That is exactly what Lindsey Grahamnesty said to justify his support for a nominee that he went after in questioning. The idea that just because someone won an election they should not be opposed because "Elections have consequences" is ridiculous, and a path to the continuing socialization of the country.
Pingback| 11.23.09 @ 1:43PM
Michelle Malkin » Carly Fiorina channels Dede Scozzafava, wields race/gender card aga links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Blacque Jacques Shellacque| 11.23.09 @ 1:55PM
Didn't she get her golden parachute from HP?
She needs to retire someplace, enjoy her $20M or whatever else is left of it, and leave the rest of us alone.
Pingback| 11.23.09 @ 3:24PM
GayPatriot » Carly Fiorina: Mainstream Conservative links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
darcy| 11.23.09 @ 4:18PM
Oh, yes, elections have consequences, Carly.
Let me show you how the dems handle it:
[F]ight aggressively from day one; "Fifty-six million people came out and voted for John Kerry to defeat George Bush. Those 56 million people are counting on those Democrats to get in there and fight for them."
Implement a "stonewall stratgegy . . . [don't] budge."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144082,00.html
Put out a circular instructing that Bush is not to be permitted ANY successes!!! Like Howard Dean.
The democrats fight with howitzers and the republicans respond with picnics. That's because they BOTH want the same things: power, prestige, and control -- and they'll take whatever road necessary, assume any posture whatever, to leach the American taxpayer and achieve their goal.
Corrupt, noxious, and pernicious blood-suckers, that's what 90% of politicians are.
Carly -- let's not forget -- was a HUGE fan and promoter of John McCain and both of them, two fat-cat RINOs seek only to further entrench their power at the expense of our pocketbooks and freedoms.
HELL NO. The people erect -- even as I write -- a wall under, over, around, or through which RINOs will no longer pass. Our tolerance has ended; our eyes are open, and our aim is sure.
We're huntin' RINOs, and whenever and wherever we sniff them out, we will dispatch them to retirement, where they belong -- at present, through the voting booth.
If that fails, it's time for the tar and feathers and the pillory stocks.
Pingback| 11.23.09 @ 4:38PM
Just Like Palin, Fiorina Flip-Flops On Her Support For The Bank Bailout | No Bull. ne links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Fiorina Plays Gender Card | Orange Juice links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
SoCon| 11.23.09 @ 8:48PM
darcy, I like your style! Tar and feathers would be fun, wouldn't it?
Spicy Joker| 11.23.09 @ 10:38PM
Carly Fiorina looks like more of a white man than Chuck DeVore.
Pingback| 11.23.09 @ 11:01PM
Remainders: Crist fires back at Rubio | Obama Biden White House links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Tax Revolt 2009 » Blog Archive » Take the Taxpayer Protection Challenge links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Take the Taxpayer Protection Challenge | Orange Juice links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Kirstin| 11.24.09 @ 10:52AM
Fiorina shares Palin's values ... but during the McCain-Palin campaign, she said that Palin (and McCain) would not be able to do her job. How helpful.
Fiorina and Whitman may be preferable to the Dem candidates, but I prefer their challengers in the Rep primary.
Pingback| 11.24.09 @ 7:41PM
Gender Identity Politics: a Fiorina faux pas? | The Persistent Conservative links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Jim P.| 11.26.09 @ 2:32AM
Fiorina is so damn annoying. She wrecks Lucent, then wrecks HP. She was not respected by the employees at either company. She wasn't technically savvy, and she wasn't a strong charasmatic leader. She was an empty suit that was eventually run out of HP. Now she pops back up as the latest RINO. Wonderful. Please go away Carly - we need to get behind Devore 100%.
levotb| 11.28.09 @ 4:44AM
No one here has mentioned Fiorina's being like so many big business CEOs/Republicans are--Open Borders and weak on the Invasion by Mexico (aka illegal immigration). Chuck DeVore isn't particularly strong on it either but I'd vote for him over Fiorina any day. We don't need another ball-busting feminist in the U.S. Senate--too many of those as it is! DeVore is a fiscal conservative Libertarian, by the way. He feels that we've lost the battle against illegal immigration due to "the numbers game" and that he cannot win running on an anti-Invasion platform. I think he's mistaken, but that's what his political advisors I assume have told him--"leave illegal immigration alone". Big mistake. He should take it and run with it! People are angry and want their jobs an homes back. We can't do it with 10 million-plus illegals in CA living off the taxpayers, closing hospitals, etc. Get rid of many of the illegals and we'll have lower rents and many jobs available in these really tough times.
Pingback| 11.28.09 @ 9:23AM
Tax Revolt 2009 » Blog Archive » Fiorina All Talk on Public Employee Unions links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Pingback| 11.28.09 @ 9:25AM
Fiorina All Talk on Public Employee Unions | Orange Juice links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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NOW: Scott Brown’s win was a victory for … sexism, or something (UPDATE: FIORINA PLAY links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Palin endorsement of Fiorina – you buying it? « The Radio Patriot links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
NewYorkRob| 6.3.10 @ 3:07PM
What? Not the Barbara "Don't call me ma'am..." Boxer!?
That piece of work? Can't be beat?