Here's a video from Breitbart.com of an American Association
of Retired Persons (AARP) members' meeting at which members
refused to behave as their socialist betters expected.
How dare these hateful, racist, swastika-bearing septuagenarians
paid by the insurance industry, bussed in by Rush Limbaugh,
mindlessly regurgitating Glenn Beck quotations, and controlled by
RNC-installed microchips in their brains express skepticism
of the Almighty Obama's plan for healthcare utopia!
Standing up to authority is downright un-American.
OMG! A room full of Nazi stormtroopers. Just look at those gray
haired jackbooted thugs.
So Scary.
GLORY| 8.7.09 @ 1:48AM
NANCY -A lot of these folks look like they have govt. health
care. You've heard of it,i'm sure.It's called Medicare/Medicaid.
Nobama| 8.7.09 @ 2:07AM
Unfortunately, both Medicare and Medicaid are broke. ObamaCare
will be much worse because it will encourage the elderly to die,
too.
If ObamaCare is so great why don't Obama and Congress want to
join too? Sounds only fair to me.
ds80| 8.7.09 @ 2:09AM
about time the sanctimonious Libs got their playbook shoved right
back in their smirky faces
Robert| 8.7.09 @ 3:19AM
Wasn't everyone warned of the actual "change" they will see if
Obama was elected? I can still hear their derisive laughter. I am
now pissed, scared yet will fight even harder to make sure the
facists do not reach their goal.
No healthcare utopia;
return to the Elysian Fields of Joy
and personal bankruptcy...
worn out symbolic porridge of
socialism...
empty bowls of capitalism...
it ends with old folks in a meeting,
not a whimper.
NadaKlew| 8.7.09 @ 8:31AM
When I got up this morning, my husband told me of seeing this on
the news last night. I have just watched the video and
immediately called AARP at 1-888-687-2277. I cancelled my
membership, requested a prorated refund (I joined in April), and
told the two people I spoke with the reason for my cancellation -
That I did not want to be a member of any organization that would
treat its members the way their representative treated those
people in that meeting. My credit card will be credited within
one to two billing cycles.
The reps that I spoke with were very polite, but I got the
definite feeling that I am not the first to do this.
When asked if there was anything else they could do for me, I
said that I would very much appreciate it if the reason for my
cancellation was documented.
I hope they don't turn me in to the "Nazi Hot Line" that the
Whitehouse has set up. I'm not prepared for an IRS audit. But if
it comes to that ... Oh well.
stan| 8.7.09 @ 9:05AM
I wonder if anyone will remember Obama's organizing the
intimidation of WGN talk show host Milt Rosenberg when he had
Stanley Kurtz on to talk about Bill Ayers.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/28/next-the-obama-thugs-came-for-stanley-kurtz/?print=1
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Anonymous| 8.7.09 @ 9:34AM
Dues members of a group expect it to reflect their interests? The
ingrates! AARP exists just to give condescending facilitators who
like old people to shut up, eat their gruel and be happy about it
a job.
Anne| 8.7.09 @ 9:40AM
I'm with NadaKlew. I'm not an AARP member, but I've worked for
membership organizations almost my entire career. I am horrified
at how these people treated their own members.
Gee, it's almost as if they take the power of their membership
for granted. They're old, feeble and easily led, so what the
heck? Except that these folks have a wealth of experience behind
them. They also know what government-run health care is like and
they don't like it.
So hats off to these folks for caring enough to speak up!
S0lo| 8.7.09 @ 9:49AM
The problem with the AARP is that they've become drunk with their
own power.
Most of the membership just trundles along with whatever the
bigwigs proclaim from 'on-high' is in their best interests. This
has tragically turned the organization into the pawns of the
democrat party with much demogoguery and reflexive regurgitation
of DNC 'talking points' disguised as thoughtful policy.
This "town hall" meeting went south as soon as the little DNC
approved propagandist at the microphone began making declarations
of the DNC and Obama Administration talking points as a matter of
'fact'.
She begins by making the ridiculous claim that most people
(including the membership) is in favor of this monstrosity of a
Health Care bill when, obviously, nothing could have been farther
from the truth! Then, the condescending little propagandist
started lecturing the members as to who was 'in charge' of this
meeting.
This wasn't a meeting to exchange ideas and hear the wishes of
the membership. This was a venue whereby the 'leadership' of the
AARP was going to speechify about the "glories" of ObamaCare and
once it became evident that the meeting wasn't going to follow
the plan, she walked out!
The sleeper has awakened.
Sean| 8.7.09 @ 9:59AM
I like how she made sure to come back and take the microphone.
shanecomeback| 8.7.09 @ 10:34AM
AARP is a scam. They have been a shill for the left wing for a
long,long time.
Yevno Azef| 8.7.09 @ 11:29AM
I literally received my AARP card in the mail yesterday with an
invitation to join. My first reaction was to dismiss, it might as
well have been an invitation to join moveon.org. Then I saw the
clip from Breibart.com and realized that the demographic for AARP
is probably shifting from Roosevelt Democrats to Reagan
Republicans. Now I am not sure and am considering joining in
order to be an agent provocateur for the VRWC!
Chernmax| 8.7.09 @ 12:11PM
I now throw all my AARP correspondence in the Garbage or use it
to start my BBQ. AARP is backing Obamacare in hopes of becoming
one of the Governments trusted agents to sign people up for
Government Healthcare. It's part of a power and money grab.
Nobama| 8.7.09 @ 1:23PM
AARP has always been leftist--they only care about power.
CathyK| 8.8.09 @ 2:39PM
I do understand fear of change, fear of something new and
unknown, but how the hell do these gray-haired activists expect
to turn back the clock by yelling down the people who come to
explain the various healthcare proposals. Screaming and waving
signs will just force the democrats to think that there is no
point in opening up dialogue to the right, that nothing can be
accomplished there - and they would be right. The democrats will
be forced by the right to push their own version through and
Republican are left stewing in their own vitrolic juices - once
again. As a healthcare administrative provider I can see that
most of these people are clueless as to how their current medical
care and insurance interacts. Erecords/electronic health records
have been used in most systems for over 10 years now. Universal
HealthCare (State version) has existed in Washington State also
for over 10 years. No problems at all except for lack of funding
to cover more people. Its just like another insurance company -
no big deal. I ask you, ask yourselves why you can not stop and
think about what is most effective, what your actual goals are
and how you can accomplish them. Currently, all the screamers
look like uneducated, uninformed jerks. A lot of good that has
done anyone.
NOBAMACARE| 8.8.09 @ 11:36PM
You said it yourself, dumb ass--LACK OF FUNDING! Massachusetts is
drowning in red ink because of its government health care
program! Socialized medicine doesn't work--anywhere.
And the government is never 'just another insurance company'
because it has coercive powers over its citizens. If you add 50
million new people to the health care rolls without adding more
doctors or nurses, how are you going to take care of all the new
patients?
Imbeciles like you are the reason we're losing our freedom. So
much stupidity. THINK!
SoCon| 8.8.09 @ 11:40PM
Obama NEVER included republicans in the health care debate--he
was trying to ram this monstrous bill through congress in only
three weeks, liar.
There will be rationing and care quality will definitely drop.
Fix the broken parts of the system but don't screw EVERYBODY
over. It's just a friggin' fascist liberal power grab.
Kathy| 8.9.09 @ 9:37AM
CathyK, I'm not sure what video you watched for you to slam
people who took exception to the AARP presuming to speak their
minds. However, your comments as a "healthcare administrative
provider" make it clear that you're the one who's actually
clueless. As a programmer/systems analyst, I know that US
healthcare is dreadfully behind most fields in technology. The
American public would save billions of dollars and have much
better care and fewer doctor-caused illnesses by using a
computerized expert system to carry out diagnoses.
Most docs don't know that a vitamin B12 deficiency may appear to
be Alzheimer's--but an expert system would. Docs do not study
every single health issue, and much of what they do study is
forgotten. On top of that, there are daily advances they are
unaware up. Unfortunately pharma does much of our doctors'
updating. Expert systems, on the other hand, do not forget and
can be loaded with far more information than any one human can
retain.
We would eliminate many medical problems and costs by putting a
powerful tool directly into the hands of the American patient.
Have the expert system analyze lab reports and retain all that
info that doctors have us fill out but never read. My doctor
screwed up interpreting cholesterol because she only looked at
the total, not the ratio. She wanted to put me on medication when
I actually have a very healthy heart and high HDL that protects
me.
Let the expert system advise Americans on real dietary help (not
the faddish USDA pyramids devised by grocery manufacturers),
herbs, vitamins, minerals etc for real underlying problems. Let
us get treated with our own own stem cells for heart problems so
that the heart is actually healed (as in Germany) instead of
using bypasses that reduce IQ and expose patients to far greater
problems of infection--but give cariologists a VERY good income.
Allowing the same-olds to move the same old pieces around to
"solve" this health care problem is like leaving Bernanke in to
solve the financial problem he did not foresee and helped bring
about...doesn't make sense excerpt in a government run by a bunch
of idiots.
Caroline| 8.9.09 @ 7:48PM
Only an idiot would entertain the preposterous notion that
Government involvement would improve health care. Medicare is
broke, Medicaid is broke, the Post Office is broke, AmTrak is
broke, etc.--I could go on forever. More Government intervention
will just make things worse.
Kathy, right on girl. I'm with you.
Fran| 8.15.09 @ 1:06PM
Oh, CathyK…what a statement: “Universal HealthCare (State
version) has existed in Washington State also for over 10 years.
No problems at all except for lack of funding to cover more
people.”
Is that why, when I moved to Washington in 1996 a specialist I’d
been referred to in Seattle told me he couldn’t refer me to
anyone in Everett because all the good doctors had left when the
State Insurance Commissioner decided to make Washington the model
for HillaryCare? Not only the good doctors, but some fine health
insurance companies abandoned the state. The people were left
with no choice other than to settle for second best.
I've returned to St. Louis where, if you need a doctor on the
weekend, you get a doctor -- not a recorded message to tell you
to call 911.
Washington medicine is a joke!
Carrol| 8.16.09 @ 2:36PM
There are many things that I either don't understand or do not
agree with in all this hullabaloo over health care reform~~but
the one thing that stands out is this "pre-existing condition"
option.
If I smash my car up, I can't go in the next day and get
insurance to cover it. If my house burns down, I can't go in and
buy retroactive insurance to replace it. Why should we be able to
buy insurance after we are already sick if we didn't buy it
before?
Could someone explain why that makes any sense?
Nancy!| 8.7.09 @ 12:27AM
OMG! A room full of Nazi stormtroopers. Just look at those gray haired jackbooted thugs.
So Scary.
GLORY| 8.7.09 @ 1:48AM
NANCY -A lot of these folks look like they have govt. health care. You've heard of it,i'm sure.It's called Medicare/Medicaid.
Nobama| 8.7.09 @ 2:07AM
Unfortunately, both Medicare and Medicaid are broke. ObamaCare will be much worse because it will encourage the elderly to die, too.
If ObamaCare is so great why don't Obama and Congress want to join too? Sounds only fair to me.
ds80| 8.7.09 @ 2:09AM
about time the sanctimonious Libs got their playbook shoved right back in their smirky faces
Robert| 8.7.09 @ 3:19AM
Wasn't everyone warned of the actual "change" they will see if Obama was elected? I can still hear their derisive laughter. I am now pissed, scared yet will fight even harder to make sure the facists do not reach their goal.
Montag| 8.7.09 @ 5:47AM
No healthcare utopia;
return to the Elysian Fields of Joy
and personal bankruptcy...
worn out symbolic porridge of
socialism...
empty bowls of capitalism...
it ends with old folks in a meeting,
not a whimper.
NadaKlew| 8.7.09 @ 8:31AM
When I got up this morning, my husband told me of seeing this on the news last night. I have just watched the video and immediately called AARP at 1-888-687-2277. I cancelled my membership, requested a prorated refund (I joined in April), and told the two people I spoke with the reason for my cancellation - That I did not want to be a member of any organization that would treat its members the way their representative treated those people in that meeting. My credit card will be credited within one to two billing cycles.
The reps that I spoke with were very polite, but I got the definite feeling that I am not the first to do this.
When asked if there was anything else they could do for me, I said that I would very much appreciate it if the reason for my cancellation was documented.
I hope they don't turn me in to the "Nazi Hot Line" that the Whitehouse has set up. I'm not prepared for an IRS audit. But if it comes to that ... Oh well.
stan| 8.7.09 @ 9:05AM
I wonder if anyone will remember Obama's organizing the intimidation of WGN talk show host Milt Rosenberg when he had Stanley Kurtz on to talk about Bill Ayers. http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/28/next-the-obama-thugs-came-for-stanley-kurtz/?print=1
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Anonymous| 8.7.09 @ 9:34AM
Dues members of a group expect it to reflect their interests? The ingrates! AARP exists just to give condescending facilitators who like old people to shut up, eat their gruel and be happy about it a job.
Anne| 8.7.09 @ 9:40AM
I'm with NadaKlew. I'm not an AARP member, but I've worked for membership organizations almost my entire career. I am horrified at how these people treated their own members.
Gee, it's almost as if they take the power of their membership for granted. They're old, feeble and easily led, so what the heck? Except that these folks have a wealth of experience behind them. They also know what government-run health care is like and they don't like it.
So hats off to these folks for caring enough to speak up!
S0lo| 8.7.09 @ 9:49AM
The problem with the AARP is that they've become drunk with their own power.
Most of the membership just trundles along with whatever the bigwigs proclaim from 'on-high' is in their best interests. This has tragically turned the organization into the pawns of the democrat party with much demogoguery and reflexive regurgitation of DNC 'talking points' disguised as thoughtful policy.
This "town hall" meeting went south as soon as the little DNC approved propagandist at the microphone began making declarations of the DNC and Obama Administration talking points as a matter of 'fact'.
She begins by making the ridiculous claim that most people (including the membership) is in favor of this monstrosity of a Health Care bill when, obviously, nothing could have been farther from the truth! Then, the condescending little propagandist started lecturing the members as to who was 'in charge' of this meeting.
This wasn't a meeting to exchange ideas and hear the wishes of the membership. This was a venue whereby the 'leadership' of the AARP was going to speechify about the "glories" of ObamaCare and once it became evident that the meeting wasn't going to follow the plan, she walked out!
The sleeper has awakened.
Sean| 8.7.09 @ 9:59AM
I like how she made sure to come back and take the microphone.
shanecomeback| 8.7.09 @ 10:34AM
AARP is a scam. They have been a shill for the left wing for a long,long time.
Yevno Azef| 8.7.09 @ 11:29AM
I literally received my AARP card in the mail yesterday with an invitation to join. My first reaction was to dismiss, it might as well have been an invitation to join moveon.org. Then I saw the clip from Breibart.com and realized that the demographic for AARP is probably shifting from Roosevelt Democrats to Reagan Republicans. Now I am not sure and am considering joining in order to be an agent provocateur for the VRWC!
Chernmax| 8.7.09 @ 12:11PM
I now throw all my AARP correspondence in the Garbage or use it to start my BBQ. AARP is backing Obamacare in hopes of becoming one of the Governments trusted agents to sign people up for Government Healthcare. It's part of a power and money grab.
Nobama| 8.7.09 @ 1:23PM
AARP has always been leftist--they only care about power.
CathyK| 8.8.09 @ 2:39PM
I do understand fear of change, fear of something new and unknown, but how the hell do these gray-haired activists expect to turn back the clock by yelling down the people who come to explain the various healthcare proposals. Screaming and waving signs will just force the democrats to think that there is no point in opening up dialogue to the right, that nothing can be accomplished there - and they would be right. The democrats will be forced by the right to push their own version through and Republican are left stewing in their own vitrolic juices - once again. As a healthcare administrative provider I can see that most of these people are clueless as to how their current medical care and insurance interacts. Erecords/electronic health records have been used in most systems for over 10 years now. Universal HealthCare (State version) has existed in Washington State also for over 10 years. No problems at all except for lack of funding to cover more people. Its just like another insurance company - no big deal. I ask you, ask yourselves why you can not stop and think about what is most effective, what your actual goals are and how you can accomplish them. Currently, all the screamers look like uneducated, uninformed jerks. A lot of good that has done anyone.
NOBAMACARE| 8.8.09 @ 11:36PM
You said it yourself, dumb ass--LACK OF FUNDING! Massachusetts is drowning in red ink because of its government health care program! Socialized medicine doesn't work--anywhere.
And the government is never 'just another insurance company' because it has coercive powers over its citizens. If you add 50 million new people to the health care rolls without adding more doctors or nurses, how are you going to take care of all the new patients?
Imbeciles like you are the reason we're losing our freedom. So much stupidity. THINK!
SoCon| 8.8.09 @ 11:40PM
Obama NEVER included republicans in the health care debate--he was trying to ram this monstrous bill through congress in only three weeks, liar.
There will be rationing and care quality will definitely drop.
Fix the broken parts of the system but don't screw EVERYBODY over. It's just a friggin' fascist liberal power grab.
Kathy| 8.9.09 @ 9:37AM
CathyK, I'm not sure what video you watched for you to slam people who took exception to the AARP presuming to speak their minds. However, your comments as a "healthcare administrative provider" make it clear that you're the one who's actually clueless. As a programmer/systems analyst, I know that US healthcare is dreadfully behind most fields in technology. The American public would save billions of dollars and have much better care and fewer doctor-caused illnesses by using a computerized expert system to carry out diagnoses.
Most docs don't know that a vitamin B12 deficiency may appear to be Alzheimer's--but an expert system would. Docs do not study every single health issue, and much of what they do study is forgotten. On top of that, there are daily advances they are unaware up. Unfortunately pharma does much of our doctors' updating. Expert systems, on the other hand, do not forget and can be loaded with far more information than any one human can retain.
We would eliminate many medical problems and costs by putting a powerful tool directly into the hands of the American patient. Have the expert system analyze lab reports and retain all that info that doctors have us fill out but never read. My doctor screwed up interpreting cholesterol because she only looked at the total, not the ratio. She wanted to put me on medication when I actually have a very healthy heart and high HDL that protects me.
Let the expert system advise Americans on real dietary help (not the faddish USDA pyramids devised by grocery manufacturers), herbs, vitamins, minerals etc for real underlying problems. Let us get treated with our own own stem cells for heart problems so that the heart is actually healed (as in Germany) instead of using bypasses that reduce IQ and expose patients to far greater problems of infection--but give cariologists a VERY good income.
Allowing the same-olds to move the same old pieces around to "solve" this health care problem is like leaving Bernanke in to solve the financial problem he did not foresee and helped bring about...doesn't make sense excerpt in a government run by a bunch of idiots.
Caroline| 8.9.09 @ 7:48PM
Only an idiot would entertain the preposterous notion that Government involvement would improve health care. Medicare is broke, Medicaid is broke, the Post Office is broke, AmTrak is broke, etc.--I could go on forever. More Government intervention will just make things worse.
Kathy, right on girl. I'm with you.
Fran| 8.15.09 @ 1:06PM
Oh, CathyK…what a statement: “Universal HealthCare (State version) has existed in Washington State also for over 10 years. No problems at all except for lack of funding to cover more people.”
Is that why, when I moved to Washington in 1996 a specialist I’d been referred to in Seattle told me he couldn’t refer me to anyone in Everett because all the good doctors had left when the State Insurance Commissioner decided to make Washington the model for HillaryCare? Not only the good doctors, but some fine health insurance companies abandoned the state. The people were left with no choice other than to settle for second best.
I've returned to St. Louis where, if you need a doctor on the weekend, you get a doctor -- not a recorded message to tell you to call 911.
Washington medicine is a joke!
Carrol| 8.16.09 @ 2:36PM
There are many things that I either don't understand or do not agree with in all this hullabaloo over health care reform~~but the one thing that stands out is this "pre-existing condition" option.
If I smash my car up, I can't go in the next day and get insurance to cover it. If my house burns down, I can't go in and buy retroactive insurance to replace it. Why should we be able to buy insurance after we are already sick if we didn't buy it before?
Could someone explain why that makes any sense?
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