David Frum
compares the Republican primary fight between Arlen Specter
and Pat Toomey to the 2006 Democratic primary between Joe
Lieberman and Ned Lamont:
In the Connecticut example, Democrats escaped lightly from the
Lamont blunder. Instead of delivering the seat to the
Republicans, Lieberman ran as an independent Democrat and won,
and since then has voted more or less along the Democratic
party line. In Pennyslvania, by contrast, the defeat of Specter
almost certainly will mean the loss of both Pennsylvania
Senates to the Democrats for a generation.
Frum might be right about Specter-Toomey -- I'll get to that in
another post -- though it is premature to write both Pennsylvania
Senate seats off "for a generation." But having done some
coverage of the 2006 Connecticut Senate race, I'm quite sure he's
wrong about Lieberman-Lamont. Or, more precisely,
Lamont-Schlesinger.
Very early after Lamont won the primary, it was clear that the
general-election math favored Lieberman. Lieberman was winning
among Republicans and independents while holding on to a critical
mass of Democrats. Sure enough, on election day
exit polls showed Lieberman winning 70 percent of
Republicans, 54 percent of independents, and 33 percent of
Democrats. The fact that Democrats were a slight plurality of
those who turned out (38 percent) was the only thing that kept
Lamont (who carried 65 percent of them) in the race.
Lieberman was uniquely positioned to unite the center and right
while leaving Lamont isolated on the left. He won independents
and 55 percent of moderates. People who were nonideological and
not making a judgment call on the Republican Congress also tended
to vote Lieberman. But his support among the Republican base was
overwhelming. In addition to winning 70 percent of Republicans,
Lieberman took 66 percent of conservatives, 55 percent of weekly
and more-than-weekly churchgoers, 76 percent (!) of voters who
wanted Republicans to control the Senate, and 72 percent of
voters who supported George W. Bush.
But if Lieberman hadn't run as an independent, the picture
changes dramatically. The same weak Republican candidate who
allowed Lieberman, on the basis of very few issues, to come in
and gobble up the GOP vote would have gotten clobbered by Lamont
in the general election. Lamont's antiwar views were not out of
the mainstream in Connecticut. Overall, 66 percent of voters
disapproved of the Iraq war (49 percent strongly disapproved)
while only 33 percent approved. On the question of whether the
U.S should withdraw some or all troops, the voters were 63
percent to 31 percent in favor of withdrawal. Only 15 percent
said "send more."
Not all Connecticut voters shared Lamont's (or the netroots')
intensity on the issue, which is why Lieberman did better among
strong supporters of the Iraq war and Bush anti-terrorism
policies than Lamont generally did among voters who opposed them.
But the point is that Lamont's views wouldn't have been a barrier
to him winning the election. In a two-way race, Republican Alan
Schlesinger would have surely gotten more than 21 percent of the
Republican vote and an equal percentage of the conservative vote.
But he would have been hard pressed to win Lieberman's
nonideological support and would have lost to Ned Lamont.
The moral of the story? There are two: 1.) Let's not let certain
Republicans blame all the party's problems on abortion or social
conservatism, which they don't care about, while ignoring the
unpopularity of the Iraq war, which they fervently supported; 2.)
Sometimes a creative or lucky candidate, like Lieberman in 2006,
can turn what all the polls say is a losing issue into a winner
on election day.
The Frums, Brooks... and other elites will never learn the
brilliant simplicity of a Democrat Ward Boss Politician who was
the last Dem who could ever be trusted with Foreign Policy...
Harry S Truman... in respect to the fact that Thomas Dewey was a
Frum sort of Republican.
"When the people are given a choice between a Democrat and a
"Democrat", they'll pick a Democrat every time."
You are correct, of course, if Lieberman had not run, Lamont
would have won in a solid Democrat victory. Other than his
laudable support for a stout defense, and the righteous
persecution of this conflict, Joe Lieberman is your standard
ordinary tax and spend liberal Democrat.
The Frums of the world keep trying to win votes from people who
will NEVER, EVER, never in a billion billion years... vote for a
Republican. Except perhaps to sneak in and vote for a RINO over a
Conservative Republican in a primary. Just so they can turn
around and vote for the Democrat in the general election.
Too bad the GOP is, as an organization, too collectively stupid
to see that.
Sort of like the "what's this... gotcha" chest-point/nose-flick
gag... The RINOs keep looking down... and expecting something
other than a nose flick to be there...
Perhaps the greatest Democrat of all time was PT Barnum... though
I don't personally know if he was one or not... But the Dems sure
did learn his primary lesson.
John| 4.16.09 @ 2:20PM
The Frums, Brooks... and other elites will never learn the brilliant simplicity of a Democrat Ward Boss Politician who was the last Dem who could ever be trusted with Foreign Policy... Harry S Truman... in respect to the fact that Thomas Dewey was a Frum sort of Republican.
"When the people are given a choice between a Democrat and a "Democrat", they'll pick a Democrat every time."
You are correct, of course, if Lieberman had not run, Lamont would have won in a solid Democrat victory. Other than his laudable support for a stout defense, and the righteous persecution of this conflict, Joe Lieberman is your standard ordinary tax and spend liberal Democrat.
The Frums of the world keep trying to win votes from people who will NEVER, EVER, never in a billion billion years... vote for a Republican. Except perhaps to sneak in and vote for a RINO over a Conservative Republican in a primary. Just so they can turn around and vote for the Democrat in the general election.
Too bad the GOP is, as an organization, too collectively stupid to see that.
Sort of like the "what's this... gotcha" chest-point/nose-flick gag... The RINOs keep looking down... and expecting something other than a nose flick to be there...
Perhaps the greatest Democrat of all time was PT Barnum... though I don't personally know if he was one or not... But the Dems sure did learn his primary lesson.
:-/ John