The American Spectator

Dan| 2.24.09 @ 11:32PM

As it was with Palin, this is the problem with "handlers." Jindal gives a perfectly fine speech normally. Someone must have been giving him too many instructions for "what the American people want to see" and threw him off his game. If he's smart, he'll fire that person and then come back strong. But, I said Palin should do the same thing and she's still giving Greta most of her interviews. No one listens to me.

TennesseeVolunteer| 2.24.09 @ 11:38PM

I don't get it, I thought words were supposed to matter. Obama looked Presidential and for the twentieth time this month made up a bunch of new lines to impress us which will be replaced in a couple of days by other words to impress us because we didn't buy whatever he is selling.
No question, Jindal could have had more presence but his words lined up with his actions as governor.
Phillip, I don't care what a man says, I care what he does. jindal has proven his small government conservatism as a sitting governor. Obama is all hat, no cattle. I learned long ago that when you aren't sure of someones honesty, you watch what they do, not what they say. Obama hasn't done one small government action though he is 'really going to watch those greedy banks' with all that money! The only actions he backs up with words are closing gitmo, funding overseas abortions etc.
Just because Nina Easton and Juan Williams didn't like Jindal is no reason for you to jump on the bandwagon.

Brian Kirk| 2.24.09 @ 11:43PM

You are correct. Jindal was awkward.

Ed| 2.24.09 @ 11:46PM

Jindal's performance was very disappointing. I think it is fair to say that we didn't find any new party members tonight....a wasted opportunity.

midge| 2.24.09 @ 11:46PM

i thought a big problem with his speech was that sheriff lee anecdote. does he really think that bureaucrats were the problem, and that it was the responsibility of private volunteers to save their fellow citizens? not that there's anything wrong with civic responsibility, but he picked a bad example of the uselessness of federal government.

David West| 2.24.09 @ 11:52PM

It's sad, but style beats substance these days. We have to find someone with both, and we haven't done so yet. Whether Palin or Jindal, or someone else, can build to that point in 4 years, we'll see.

Anne| 2.24.09 @ 11:56PM

A response to David West,

We got a great leader in the GOP who can communicate TO the American people and that person is Gov. Mike Huckabee. He would have stared into the camera without notecards like he always does and speak to the American people and about our concerns. He would have told the American people is plain language how the stimulus is bad for them.

Dan| 2.25.09 @ 12:05AM

Anne - I doubt it. Huck loves spending.

Midge - his point was not that government shouldn't have been helping in Katrina, but that when the government wasn't helping, and private citizens tried to pitch in, the government actually went to great lengths to hinder that effort. I thought it was a good story - make government work, but if its not going to, and is only going to hinder, get it out of the way

Big Mo| 2.25.09 @ 12:08AM

GOP has many choices. Governors of poor southern Confederate states like Mississippi, Louisina and South Carolina will forego Federal aid. Alaska's Palin is the pitbull with lipstick. Jindal will reject Obama stimulus funds! Crist and Schwarzenegger will take the money Jindal leaves on the table. Wow. If this was supposed to be Bobby Jindal's big national introduction, he might want to go back and consdier a reboot.
Don't get me wrong- I don't have strong feelings about Jindal one way or another. Like most conservatives outside of Louisiana, he's still a largely unknown quantity to me, and I'm sure as hell not going to form an iron clad opinion based on what might have been nothing more than an off night. And the rebuttal slot on one of these deals is always a thankless task- there's no way to stand toe to toe with any president and match the sheer star wattage that comes with the office. You're going to come off looking slightly pale by comparison even on a good night.
But Jindal was way, waaaaaaay off in tone and delivery. The conservatives I know- the real meat-and-potatoes base of the GOP - are pissed off and ready for a rumble. We wanted to see some bombs lobbed. Instead, Jindal offered up a sort of golly-gee, PG-rated pep talk that sounded downright wimpy. You could almost hear the air hissing as our side deflated. Where was the fire? Where were the teeth? A major disappointment for many of us after hearing so many good things about this guy. Huckabee is now a huckster and McCain is trying to find a role.

Bob K.| 2.25.09 @ 12:33AM

I didn't listen to either one. What for? No point in reading this nonsense either! Events make leaders! One will appear, meanwhile relax. Stop acting like blue haired ladies at their afternoon bridge clubs!

Die Rechte Ecke| 2.25.09 @ 12:40AM

Well, I'm torn somewhat.
I'd like to see some Republicans who look and act tough and can streetfight like Lee Atwater.
Someone had to say something, but this left me feeling a bit let down.

Sebastian B. O. Buniontow VI| 2.25.09 @ 12:43AM

"Tonight was a good night for Palin." - Ed Rollins

Agreed. A bit of trivia: did you know that Alaska has a rainy day reserve fund it can draw on during depressing economic times?

Bob K.| 2.25.09 @ 12:44AM

I didn't listen to Obama but I could hear him. My wife was watching him on TV. It seemed to me that his trained baritone voice that we all have come to expect has weakened. He didn't sound like he was performing. Anybody else notice that?

Peter Principle| 2.25.09 @ 1:09AM

"Obama is all hat, no cattle. "

Wait, I thought he was the liberal socialist juggernaut who was single-handedly dragging America in a collectivist hellhole.

I wish you people could make up your minds.

M~~| 2.25.09 @ 1:21AM

Au contraire! I found quietly presented words from Governor Jindal with a right message a stark contrast to the narcissistic spectacle we've witnessed for the last year!!!!!
The massive chamber of Congress filled with adoring cheering sycophants is a far cry from standing alone in a hallway in a governor's mansion. The words were right - we've had W A Y too much of buying an image! Let's go for substance the next time!

Interloper| 2.25.09 @ 1:48AM

Piyush Jindal failed on both substance (there wasn't any) and delivery (he came across as the phony he is). But, it is all good. Revealed poor Piyush to be just a pimple on the GOP's sizable back side.

bah| 2.25.09 @ 1:55AM

Obama's got it. Charisma. Sink or swim, it's gonna be a helluva ride. And I bet we swim :)

That Jindal this was just gross. Palin didn't work, so let's throw the minority thing at 'em and see if they believe our lies now! FU GOP, I was republican until you ruined a fine man in Sen. McCain

Beth| 2.25.09 @ 3:51AM

He looks like a dork and he sounds like a dork.
America doesn't elect a dork for Preseident.

Bob| 2.25.09 @ 8:24AM

I posted yesterday that the worst thing Jindal could do is be a political hack. And yet, that is exactly what he did. He talked about little programs rather than the big picture. He talked about the party of "no" rather than the party with ideas. He presented criticisms rather than solutions. Furthermore, he sounded like he was selling himself rather than rooting for the country.

Now, I like Jindal, but he lacks maturity. There was just no "there" there. There was no substance.

Republicans need to be the party of "yes", not the party of "no". At a time when the economy is hurting, we need leaders who talk about average people, not themselves. We need an honest broker who talks effectively about the moral bankruptcy of tax cuts without also cutting spending.

Jindal, or for that matter Palin, can never succeed without a POSITIVE message. The fact is that Republicans right now don't have that message. Yes, after the last 8 years, it's difficult to talk about competence. Yes, after Palin on Gibson and Couric it is hard to talk about competence. Yes, after McCain's performance as a candidate it is hard to talk about competence. Jindal is bright and capable, but he blew it.

At a time of serious trouble, people need to see that their leaders come together. They don't want to see opposition, they want to see teamwork. Republicans are blind to the public. Playing to the base is a losing strategy. The red meat is going bad. We don't need the party of Reagan, we need the party of the 21st century.

daboss| 2.25.09 @ 9:06AM

I have always felt that the response to joint session speaches by the opposing party is petty and childish.

Whether it was Jindal or the Polisi and Daschle sit in … it is demeaning.

The policy should be abandoned.

midge| 2.25.09 @ 9:09AM

dan --

i hear you on that, but i guess my point is that people generally agree that the response to katrina signaled a failure of the federal government's responsibility. my point was that had government been doing its job properly, there would have been no need for private citizens to risk their lives saving friends, loved ones, and complete strangers. this was an example of a time when MORE (well, better) government would have been helpful. (note that "government" does not equal "bureaucracy.")

there are plenty of examples of government getting in the way (red tape in public schools, for instance). i think jindal was trying to access the soft spot of sympathy people had for katrina victims, and he overreached and ended up undermining himself.

ame| 2.25.09 @ 9:28AM

Finally, with Jindal we have a leader on the national stage, not an empty styrofoam Greek column Obama poser.
Bobby Jindal is one of a very few truly brilliant people who have ideas that work and have proven to do so. He has more smarts in his socks than Obama has in his pretend sentimental idiotic "dreams."
Jindal is a man of principle, not politics; a man with an ethical and moral center, not "above my pay grade" - "I screwed up" - "I won" pureile whining; a leader, not a facilitator; a person of action, not staging; someone who believes in the power of America and Americans, not the power of government; a man of purpose, not empty promise.
Bobby Jindal has actually served the America he leads, not just taken from it for personal gain.
Jindal and other young Republicans such as Cantor and Ryan finally give me some real hope.
Obama couldn't lead a dog to a fire hydrant, but he can put dogs in a "study group" and teach them to bark.
Jindal is real, a leader who has proven himself through his actions, someone we can actually trust and someone who delivers, not the solipsistic pathetic frat brat elitist race baiting welfare Chicago thug wind blower we now must endure. I didn't listen to Obambi's speech because he never says ANYTHING - NO SUBSTANCE, just dissembling equivocation, but I did listen to Jindal because he not only speaks with substance, he delivers it.

Larry| 2.25.09 @ 9:52AM

At this moment in time, instant gratification is the rule of the day. Style and image are all that matter. Most people nowdays don't want to waste their energy discerning substance. Surrendering to one's emotions is much easier.

Joey| 2.25.09 @ 10:57AM

If Jindal is the hope of our republican leadership, we are in a heck of a lot of trouble. I was embarrassed to be a part of the party last night. I think the current republican leadership is following democrats in trying to push race in selecting who is speaking for them, republican leadership should not deny who the people like and have respect for to represent them!

markinwv| 2.25.09 @ 11:13AM

Okay, Beth, he's a dork? Well what makes Obama an expert on anything? 'Cause he's so dreamy?

Judy Beumler| 2.25.09 @ 11:21AM

It doesn't matter who does the Response, they all look terrible. If I wanted to be President someday, I would never accept the oppotrunity to respond...it's a no win situation.

Bobby Jindal's day will come. He is the real thing.

jb

Cap'n Rusty| 2.25.09 @ 12:23PM

My god, Midge!
"had government been doing its job properly, there would have been no need for private citizens to risk their lives saving friends, loved ones, and complete strangers"
Free people, those who accept risk and responsibility for themselves, very often choose to risk their lives saving friends, loved ones, and (especially in the case of the military) complete strangers. If the free people of America have become what you describe then they will soon lose the freedom they no longer deserve.

Bob| 2.25.09 @ 12:40PM

I find it interesting that the party bosses chose Jindal instead of Palin. Given her reception by her peers, it shows she has no real support within the party other than mindless social conservatives. Now if someone can show me evidence that Palin was offered this response and refused to do it, I'd be impressed by her decision.

midge| 2.25.09 @ 12:41PM

but cap'n rusty, what happens when private citizens, like your mom or my little sister, who have NOT been trained in rescue, do NOT have the necessary equipment, get hurt? will those people then be a neutral in a disaster, or will they also require medical services and doctors and nurses who would otherwise be helping others?

my God, cap'n! with all due respect, if i had the choice between being rescued by the coast guard and being rescued by my 54-year-old mother, i would choose the coast guard.

anyway, what am i "describing" the free people of becoming? re-read my post and you will see that i am not hoping that they become anything other than the wonderful people they were. i'm just saying that both the rescuers and the rescued would have benefited from a competent federal response. this isn't the Wild West anymore.

Charlene| 2.25.09 @ 1:11PM

Commonsense would suggest that what is important is substance, not style. But maybe substance is only important to freedom lovers. Dictators do tend to have a great oratory "style". I guess it depends what you want in a country.

eric| 2.25.09 @ 1:40PM

The message was also tired - small versus big government, tax and spend versus wise Republican thrift. That might play well with the base, but the debate has gone past that.

ross| 2.25.09 @ 1:41PM

How can Jindal be a top candidate for the 2012 run? What will he point to as his political successes? Louisiana is an extraordinarily poor state, and given the downturn in the economy, it's economic situation is unlikely to improve anytime soon. Again, what will Jindal be able to point to as positives if he hit the campaign trail? We learned from McCain/Palin that you had better offer something more than negative rhetoric.

Ilovemycountry| 2.25.09 @ 2:11PM

Jindal is a joke and not a funny joke either. He's too childish, the smirk on his face is too hard to take serious and his politics are what got us into this mess - This guy is the next Sarah Palin.

Red Phillips| 2.25.09 @ 2:14PM

Real conservatives have a leader in true Constitutionalist Ron Paul. Jindal is an entirely ordinary movement conservative type who is bad on immigration to boot.

Paul in 2012, and if he is not up to it them we need a non-interventionist with Constitutionalist leanings. (Another Ron Paul is probably too much to ask.)

Frank Jones| 2.25.09 @ 2:30PM

Typical liberal bias....

disappointed but not surprised| 2.25.09 @ 3:06PM

I watched Jindal's interview with Meredith Vierra this morning on NBC. Wow.

A firebrand with a message square on target. He shut her down immediately with an intensity, breadth of knowledge on issues, and specificity that was impressive to me.

Where was this guy last night? Blame his handlers who apparently told him to speak slowly and use small words.

I encourage everyone to look at that interview. Don't write him off yet.

JH| 2.25.09 @ 3:48PM

"The substance was fine"?!! Invoking Katrina to prove we don't need government? Fabricating a railroad between Disneyland and Vegas? True, he delivered the speech like Mister Rogers reading a bedtime story to Trig Palin, but the substance wasn't exactly choice either.

DO| 2.26.09 @ 12:48PM

I can only hope that Lorne Michels was watching.

Interloper| 2.28.09 @ 6:38AM

Turns out that nearly everything Piyush Jindal said in his speech was false. He was out of the country during the period when people were being rescued from roofs during Hurricane Katrina. There is no actual plan for mass transit from Disneyworld to Los Vegas. (However, Louisiana is seeking some of the mass transit funds Jindal criticized.) The money for volcano monitoring is less than 10 percent of what he claimed.

Not only did Jindal look like a fool, he was being foolish. In this day and age, a politician does not lie so publicly and not pay a price for it.

need| 8.21.09 @ 2:31AM

! Invoking Katrina to prove we don't need government? Fabricating a railroad between Disneyland and Vegas?

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