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It seems to me that, other than the Michael Powell piece, the New Majority website is more concerned with winning over educated, upper-income whites than winning more black and Hispanic votes. They want Republicans to once again be able to carry places like Greenwich, Connecticut and Lincoln, Massachusetts.
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Sebastian B. O. Buniontow IV| 1.23.09 @ 3:37PM
James, would you seriously expect anything different from a David Frum web site? Frum is suggesting that conservative values, particularly social conservatism should be placed on the shelf so as to win over liberal minded moderates and such.
The problems are that should we follow such advice, (1) conservatives will stay home much like many did with McCain, and (2) the Republican Party would lose its points of differentiation.
I'm convinced that Obama and the liberal Congress will through their policies and actions turn the electorate against them by 2010 and 12. We are in Day 3 and already Obama has provided a compelling case for social conservatism.
ruth| 1.23.09 @ 3:54PM
Love your moniker, Sebastian. Funny. More elitist, country club republicans to tell us how and what to think . Yes, rich RINOs running amok are just what we need. They are exactly why I don't call myself a republican.
Mary | 1.23.09 @ 5:42PM
I listened to all three parts of John Avalon's interview w/Rudy. I like Rudy but he wouldn't have won against Obama. People keep forgetting that the main reason Obama is in power is because of Republican ineptitude.
In the interview Rudy made some points that I don't think are arguable, and he doesn't dislike social conservatives at all. It seemed to me that he went out of his way to convey that using gentle language. I would have voted for him too.
I see the Maverick is up to his old tricks. Gadfly.
Brooks said before the election that the Republican party couldn't continue to insult the sensibilities of those you note in your post (educated, upper income) and win.
Brooks and Frum are vegans and some of us out here are four-square conservative lovers of high-end protein.
I don't know if the new majority is the same as the old majority but they hold no allure for me.
If some of us take a powder the next election or two it's because we're not getting protein and we need it.
Andrew Breitbart had a great piece close to election time in which he begged our best and brightest Soldiers returning from Iraq to run for office.
I second the call.
As for Brooks and Frum, et al, they leave me cold, ice, ice, baby ice, cold.
Hank Archer| 1.23.09 @ 5:42PM
Would attempting to win over educated, upper-income whites harm efforts to win more black and Hispanic votes? Are these goals contradictory?
BJC| 1.23.09 @ 5:47PM
Right-o, Jim. And Rush Limbaugh has been making this point over the past few days, in observing that much of the drive to push the moral issues out of the Republican Party stems from "country club" wives nagging about abortion because they're embarrassed among their smart-set elitist friends to be in the same political party as the hayseed hicks from "the South" (see, for instance, Rich Bond).
I saw a link to the "New Majority" Web site somewhere recently and clicked over to watch the two-parter interview with Rudy Giuliani. Very stale stuff, all the same old complaints, and what sounded to me like hypocritical self-exculpatory annoyance on Mayor Giuliani's part. Where exactly are all these vast hordes of ignored independents and miffed moderates, whose votes have supposedly been lost to Republican candidates, who supposedly have become too "harsh" and too "extreme" in their conservatism? Is there any evidence whatsoever that large swaths of voters are up for grabs between the political Left and the political Right? From the history I've read of polling, the breakdown was pretty stably 40% Left, 40% Right, with 20% undecided -- but that "middle" of "independents" has actually been decreasing over the past few years.
In any event, though, the Republicans are going to find themselves a permanent minority if they junk the moral issues of the Right to adopt the moral views of the Left. A recourse to money, materialism, "competence" in government and other such purported safe "majoritarian" concerns has no defense absent the moral underpinnings of those "self-evident truths" about "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
Sarge6| 1.23.09 @ 6:57PM
Awesome. Let's start out on a minimum of two years in the wilderness revving up on who is and isn't conservative enough. Let's just write off the Old Northeast. Let's act just like the 2004 nutroots and declare an insurgency for ideological purity in our host party. Let's all self-marginalize ourselves like the paleos over at the American Conservative. It will all feel great!
ruth| 1.23.09 @ 8:13PM
Or I guess we could just write off all the Bible belt, knuckle dragging moralists like me. Probably wouldn't bother you so much, right Sarge?
Alan Brooks| 1.23.09 @ 10:04PM
yeah Sarge6, its all that simple. we ought to be more permissive, as long as we keep granting permission to the wrong people.
Alan Brooks| 1.23.09 @ 10:05PM
and how do you discover who are the wrong people?
by making every mistake possible.
Eric Dondero | 1.24.09 @ 10:46AM
Who needs moderate voters when you can get libertarians?
The libertarian constituency is just as large, if not larger in the US than moderate Centrists.
By becomming more hardcore, and moving to the Right, the Republican Party will gain a large segment of libertarian voters.
525,000 Americans voted for Libertarian Bob Barr for President. Obama won North Carolina and Indiana, by a hair.
Imagine if those votes had gone to McCain, how close the 2008 election would have been. Now add in the libertarian voters who just stayed home.
Equals Republican victory.
Ran| 1.24.09 @ 7:18PM
Eric,
Think of Frum's tantrum as "Bold_Pastels_R_Us". He's not going anywhere with that. "New Mediocrity", whatever.
I'm with you: If the Republican Party wins over the libertarian priorities of the conservative base, it will win elections.
I'm with you: If the Republican Party wins over the libertarian instinct in the conservative base, it will win elections. "NewMediocrity" isn't going to do that.
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