Brooks was less optimistic about the Republican Party,
following their losses on Tuesday.
"World of pain," Brooks said. "A generation of pain. 1964, it
was so much better than now. In '64, they had a coherent belief
system. They lost, they didn't persuade the American people
about it, but they understood where they wanted to take the
country.
"Now it's just a circular firing squad, with everybody
attacking each other, and no coherent belief system, no
leaders. You've got half the party waiting for Sarah Palin to
come and rescue them. The other half is waiting for Bobby
Jindal, the Louisiana governor, to come rescue them. But no set
of beliefs. Really a decayed conservative infrastructure. It's
just a world of pain." . . .
Brooks was not convinced that Sarah Palin could be taken
seriously as the GOP's next Ronald Reagan.
"Well, the 'hell, no' group is rallying around her," he said.
"And this past week, I don't think, has been particularly
flattering to her, the McCain people - and the whole thing has
been a complete disaster. They've attacked her for her lack of
human capital and for being a diva.
"I'm not sure it's all fair, but one would not say she has
spent her life preparing for an intellectual revolution to lead
the party out of the wilderness. Let's put it that way."
Brooks declared himself a part of the "yes, but" wing. "You
know, this is where the American people are," he said. "And,
fundamentally, the conservative movement failed (and I've been
in it my entire life) because it hasn't addressed the problems
of today, the rise of China and Russia, the rise of inequality,
energy, health care. It's great to worry about Reagan. I loved
Reagan, but those days are over."
To begin with, I've talked to more than a few veterans of the '64
Goldwater debacle (including
William Middendorf) and it was certainly not clear to the
AuH20 crew in the wake of that drubbing what a wonderful future
lay ahead for conservatism. And Brooks has been one of the chief
marksmen of the "circular firing squad" ever since he conjured up
"National Greatness," a complete repudiation of the
limited-government ideas that motivated conservatives from
Goldwater to Reagan to Gingrich. And David Brooks most certainly
has not been in the conservative movement his "entire life,"
having made his bones as a precocious college liberal by mocking
Bill Buckley and contradicting Milton Friedman.
As far as offering advice to Conservatives is concerned, I put
about as much stock in David Brooks as I do In Keith Olbermann or
Chris Matthews.
Can we please put Brooks on a list of people to ignore?
He's inconsequential to the task ahead.
Captain America| 11.10.08 @ 2:10PM
RSM:
Does anyone take Brooks seriously any more?
Clue: Brooks is the PBS and NY Times version of a conservative,
as they define him.
Tom Paine| 11.10.08 @ 2:19PM
William F Buckley, who (like Friedman) would have been deeply
alarmed about the growing anti-intellectualism in the movement he
began, was impressed by Brooks and brought him into the
conservative tent -- after Brooks made fun of him.
Quick question: is Kristol the NY Times definition of a
conservative as well?
jstacey| 11.10.08 @ 2:23PM
The curious 'arc' of David Brooks remains a great mystery of this
campaign. Long after the embarrassing Couric interview, following
the VP debate, he wrote a glowing piece about Palin. But then, he
declared her a "..fatal cancer on the Republican party.." Huh?
Can such a path of erratic behavior be explained?
Why he continues on as a respected journalist is strange, and
inexplicable.
It's absurd to suggest that Conservatism has failed. It has not
been tried in a generation. It is absurd to suggest that
Conservatives are in disarray. Conservatives are firm, clear and
united in their philosophy.
That Brooks would equate the current Republican Party, (run by
RINOS, "moderates" and appeasers) with Conservatism is either
evidence of his stupidity or his duplicity.
Either way...put him on ignore. And let the purges begin!
Josh F| 11.10.08 @ 4:11PM
Palin damaged the GOP ticket. Is there a poll out there to refute
this? I know, I know ... she draws thousands to her rallies, she
connects with people, blah blah blah, but so could any talentless
beauty queen turned vice presidential candidate. She's the least
compelling, most vaccous candidate to ever be put on a national
ticket. Talk about someone to put on the "ignore" list.
ruth| 11.10.08 @ 4:29PM
Josh, you're just another liberal troll doing what you liberals
do best; hate. You and your loser buddy, Brooks, can stick your
words where the sun don't shine.
Jon | 11.10.08 @ 5:11PM
Josh F said: "Palin damaged the GOP ticket. Is there a poll out
there to refute this?"
Yes, the exit polls, which showed that of those for whom Palin
was factor in how they voted, most voted for McCain.
BTW, according to a poll by Pew, 65% of those who watched Palin's
debate with Biden rated her performance as "excellent" or "good".
That's almost as high as Obama's excellent/good rating in his
first debate with McCain (72%), and higher than McCain's rating
vs. Obama (59%).
Bob| 11.10.08 @ 7:15PM
Jon, I can see you are one of the "uneducated" people who doesn't
know how to read polls. This is directly from Pew:
"Sarah Palin's impact on McCain's fortunes will no doubt be long
debated, and the results of the exit polls are somewhat mixed.
Fully 60% of Americans casting ballots said that Palin is not
qualified to be president should it be necessary; 81% of these
voters favored Obama. Yet those who cited Palin's selection as a
factor in their vote -- 60% of all voters -- favored McCain by
56% to 43%."
Simple math means that 34% of the voters voted for McCain and
Palin was a factor. 49% of the voters who thought that Palin was
unqualified voted for Obama. Obama only got 53% of the vote which
means that virtually all of the people who voted for Obama
thought Palin was unqualified.
Perhaps if you finished school, you might have understood this.
ruth| 11.10.08 @ 10:21PM
Democrats did not win because of Biden and Republicans did not
lose because of Palin. This was McCain's campaign and he bears
responsibility for the loss. Even if you finished school, Bob, I
guess you just don't understand this.
David Brooks| 11.11.08 @ 12:06AM
Guys, give me a break, bashing you for the NY Times and PBS is my
bread and butter! An arse has to live!
Honestly, who cares what "Cancer" Brooks thinks? He went all
Andrew Sullivan on us a few weeks ago. He should move in to
Andrew's Mom's basement with Andrew. Both off the deep end
insane.
malm| 11.11.08 @ 9:59AM
Income inequality is a legit issue. You true blue conservatives
can't imagine somebody in our nation might be overpaid. This one
per cent making twenty plus of all income demands attention, but
you guys can't fathom such a thought. Can you at least think that
some of the super rich may actually not be working in industries
that are not fully free market in nature ? I mean Congress
setting compensation rates in excess of 600k and hour for their
work on the tabacco settlement, is that the free market talking ?
malm| 11.11.08 @ 10:02AM
" their work " refers to trial lawyers.
Thomas| 11.11.08 @ 10:33AM
Mr. Brooks and most of the Republican hierarchy have it
backwards. Conservatives do not have to convince anyone of
anything. Conservatives believe and espouse the same things now,
that they did in 1964. The fact that liberals, Democrats, the
Republican leadership do not listen is not the fault of
Conservatism.
Unlike liberals, Conservatives do not attempt to force their
beliefs upon anyone. Their philosophical truths are limited and
simple.
1. Government should be limited to the least that is necessary to
provide for the greatest freedom for the largest number of people
while protecting basic rights for all.
2. Politicians should be discouraged from making laws that are
not directly related to common law crimes [murder, rape, theft,
etc.]
3. People should be encouraged to fend for themselves. Not
supported by the State.
4. Charity should be a personal matter, not a matter for the
State.
5. All responsibility is personal, not shared. And it should be
assumed at all times. No one is above the law.
It is interesting that when politicians follow these simple
precepts, they are elected, overwhelmingly. It would seem,
therefor, that simple enlightened self-interest would make most
politicians Conservative. That they aren't is interesting. But,
hardly the fault of Conservatives.
Doctor Right| 11.10.08 @ 2:00PM
As far as offering advice to Conservatives is concerned, I put about as much stock in David Brooks as I do In Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews.
Can we please put Brooks on a list of people to ignore?
He's inconsequential to the task ahead.
Captain America| 11.10.08 @ 2:10PM
RSM:
Does anyone take Brooks seriously any more?
Clue: Brooks is the PBS and NY Times version of a conservative, as they define him.
Tom Paine| 11.10.08 @ 2:19PM
William F Buckley, who (like Friedman) would have been deeply alarmed about the growing anti-intellectualism in the movement he began, was impressed by Brooks and brought him into the conservative tent -- after Brooks made fun of him.
Quick question: is Kristol the NY Times definition of a conservative as well?
jstacey| 11.10.08 @ 2:23PM
The curious 'arc' of David Brooks remains a great mystery of this campaign. Long after the embarrassing Couric interview, following the VP debate, he wrote a glowing piece about Palin. But then, he declared her a "..fatal cancer on the Republican party.." Huh? Can such a path of erratic behavior be explained?
Why he continues on as a respected journalist is strange, and inexplicable.
Bullpup| 11.10.08 @ 2:41PM
David Brooks: Vichy Conservative
the-gunslinger| 11.10.08 @ 2:46PM
It's absurd to suggest that Conservatism has failed. It has not been tried in a generation. It is absurd to suggest that Conservatives are in disarray. Conservatives are firm, clear and united in their philosophy.
That Brooks would equate the current Republican Party, (run by RINOS, "moderates" and appeasers) with Conservatism is either evidence of his stupidity or his duplicity.
Either way...put him on ignore. And let the purges begin!
Josh F| 11.10.08 @ 4:11PM
Palin damaged the GOP ticket. Is there a poll out there to refute this? I know, I know ... she draws thousands to her rallies, she connects with people, blah blah blah, but so could any talentless beauty queen turned vice presidential candidate. She's the least compelling, most vaccous candidate to ever be put on a national ticket. Talk about someone to put on the "ignore" list.
ruth| 11.10.08 @ 4:29PM
Josh, you're just another liberal troll doing what you liberals do best; hate. You and your loser buddy, Brooks, can stick your words where the sun don't shine.
Jon | 11.10.08 @ 5:11PM
Josh F said: "Palin damaged the GOP ticket. Is there a poll out there to refute this?"
Yes, the exit polls, which showed that of those for whom Palin was factor in how they voted, most voted for McCain.
BTW, according to a poll by Pew, 65% of those who watched Palin's debate with Biden rated her performance as "excellent" or "good". That's almost as high as Obama's excellent/good rating in his first debate with McCain (72%), and higher than McCain's rating vs. Obama (59%).
Bob| 11.10.08 @ 7:15PM
Jon, I can see you are one of the "uneducated" people who doesn't know how to read polls. This is directly from Pew:
"Sarah Palin's impact on McCain's fortunes will no doubt be long debated, and the results of the exit polls are somewhat mixed. Fully 60% of Americans casting ballots said that Palin is not qualified to be president should it be necessary; 81% of these voters favored Obama. Yet those who cited Palin's selection as a factor in their vote -- 60% of all voters -- favored McCain by 56% to 43%."
Simple math means that 34% of the voters voted for McCain and Palin was a factor. 49% of the voters who thought that Palin was unqualified voted for Obama. Obama only got 53% of the vote which means that virtually all of the people who voted for Obama thought Palin was unqualified.
Perhaps if you finished school, you might have understood this.
ruth| 11.10.08 @ 10:21PM
Democrats did not win because of Biden and Republicans did not lose because of Palin. This was McCain's campaign and he bears responsibility for the loss. Even if you finished school, Bob, I guess you just don't understand this.
David Brooks| 11.11.08 @ 12:06AM
Guys, give me a break, bashing you for the NY Times and PBS is my bread and butter! An arse has to live!
Matthew Vadum| 11.11.08 @ 7:49AM
Brooks actually said "inequality" is on the rise?
james23| 11.11.08 @ 9:02AM
Honestly, who cares what "Cancer" Brooks thinks? He went all Andrew Sullivan on us a few weeks ago. He should move in to Andrew's Mom's basement with Andrew. Both off the deep end insane.
malm| 11.11.08 @ 9:59AM
Income inequality is a legit issue. You true blue conservatives can't imagine somebody in our nation might be overpaid. This one per cent making twenty plus of all income demands attention, but you guys can't fathom such a thought. Can you at least think that some of the super rich may actually not be working in industries that are not fully free market in nature ? I mean Congress setting compensation rates in excess of 600k and hour for their work on the tabacco settlement, is that the free market talking ?
malm| 11.11.08 @ 10:02AM
" their work " refers to trial lawyers.
Thomas| 11.11.08 @ 10:33AM
Mr. Brooks and most of the Republican hierarchy have it backwards. Conservatives do not have to convince anyone of anything. Conservatives believe and espouse the same things now, that they did in 1964. The fact that liberals, Democrats, the Republican leadership do not listen is not the fault of Conservatism.
Unlike liberals, Conservatives do not attempt to force their beliefs upon anyone. Their philosophical truths are limited and simple.
1. Government should be limited to the least that is necessary to provide for the greatest freedom for the largest number of people while protecting basic rights for all.
2. Politicians should be discouraged from making laws that are not directly related to common law crimes [murder, rape, theft, etc.]
3. People should be encouraged to fend for themselves. Not supported by the State.
4. Charity should be a personal matter, not a matter for the State.
5. All responsibility is personal, not shared. And it should be assumed at all times. No one is above the law.
It is interesting that when politicians follow these simple precepts, they are elected, overwhelmingly. It would seem, therefor, that simple enlightened self-interest would make most politicians Conservative. That they aren't is interesting. But, hardly the fault of Conservatives.