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The Party of Ryan or The Party of Trump?
Do we really want to go from Barack to buffoon?
With every passing day, President Obama displays a temperament incompatible with the office bestowed upon him nearly two and a half years ago. Whether it’s berating a reporter for having the temerity to correct him, complaining about the quality of the White House phones, or gracelessly telling House Republicans to their face they intend to take away health insurance from 50 million Americans, Obama is demonstrating he is not up to the task assigned to him by the American electorate.
Yet those of us who desire that Chief Justice John Roberts administer the oath of office to someone other than Barack Obama on January 20, 2013 should temper this great wish with the realization that his successor could be even less suited to be Commander-in-Chief. I realize that for many such a notion is inconceivable. But it is all the more reason for Republicans to choose wisely about who will face off against Obama next year.
I don’t want to leave the impression that I am an admirer of President Obama. In fact, if you were to ask me how to describe President Obama I would call him a petulant, preening, thin-skinned dilettante who thinks he is beyond criticism. But if you were to ask me how to describe Donald Trump, well, I would call him a petulant, preening, thin-skinned dilettante who thinks he is beyond criticism. The only appreciable difference between the two is that Trump would probably equip the White House with “really cool phones.”
Of course, one could make the case that entering 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue would probably be a step down for Trump. Let’s face it. Anyone who owns half of New York is used to getting his way and anyone who is used to getting his way doesn’t think he can be unreasonable much less subject to constraints. If Trump gets to exchange his view of Central Park from Trump Tower for a view of the Rose Garden from the Oval Office, then we can expect him to give the Constitution, Congress, and the Courts the same regard he’s given his ex-wives. Do we really want to go from Barack to buffoon?
Don’t get me wrong. President Obama richly deserves the criticism for his performance in office. Yet Trump made the conscious decision to center his criticism of Obama on what he was doing out of his mother’s womb in 1961 rather than what he is doing in the Situation Room in 2011. Even if Trump were never again to raise the question of Obama’s birthplace, he cannot put the cat back into the bag. Once it’s out, it stays out free to roam around. The fact that Trump would have even entertained opening the bag makes me question his judgment. It is also an indication that Trump surrounds himself with yes men. And where there are yes men there is no one to tell him no. Then again if someone dared to tell Trump no, The Donald would be sure to reply, “You’re fired.”
Perhaps we can take comfort that it is not everyone’s ambition in life to be Donald Trump’s apprentice. Nor is it everyone’s ambition to take the safe path. Some people go against the grain. I would place House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan in that category. Possibly better than anyone, Ryan understands that it is insufficient merely to oppose President Obama’s policies. You have to be prepared to offer your own and the Wisconsin Republican has done that and then some. First, in 2009, Ryan introduced his alternative to Obamacare — The Patients’ Choice Act. Let’s not forget how Ryan went toe to toe with Obama at the Health Care Summit in February 2010 and put to shreds the President’s claims that Obamacare would reduce the deficit. And then there are his proposals for the federal budget.
When asked to comment about Ryan’s budget proposals, Trump said Ryan’s proposed cuts to Medicare have made senior citizens afraid and “made the Democrats so happy.” So what does Trump propose? Well, nothing. Perhaps I would be more inclined to take Trump seriously if he were to use his vast resources to publish a policy paper on health care and the overall state of the federal budget rather than to send investigators to Honolulu to find a fifty-year-old birth certificate.
Now it is entirely possible that neither Donald Trump nor Paul Ryan will present themselves as a candidate for President of the United States. Yet both men represent a diametrically opposed approach as to how to unseat a Democratic President. While Trump is content merely to disparage President Obama (and for that matter any other Republican not named Trump) and provide easy answers to complicated questions, Ryan has a proven record of putting forward viable conservative public policy alternatives and isn’t afraid to tell people the answers to even the simplest of questions aren’t always easy. Next year, Republicans will have to decide if we are the Party of Ryan or the Party of Trump.
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Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.27.11 @ 6:23AM
Since Ryan's budget puts off tough considerations well into the future is it really all that conservative?
If the Republicans wanted real conservatism they would have led the charge to shut the government down and told Obama to stuff it right then and there and showed that they believed in their principles.
Say what you will about Trump. The public is fascinated with his ability to believe in something.
The current crop of Republicans are chasing their tails and working out budget cuts and trumpeting them as 38 billion in cuts when in fact there was an actual 3.3 billion increase in spending.
They look weak and ineffectual. Trump looks like he knows what he's talking about.
You question why Trump bought up the birther issue? Perhaps it's because just slightly over 30% of the public believes Obama was born in the U.S.
One issue you forgot to mention about Obama is that whether there is something to to the birther issue or not, Obama continues to hide many facts about his past and has spent several million keeping his college career secret.
In effect, the Republicans created the Trump surge by looking and acting weak. Trump has tackled more difficult issues in the press then the entire lot of Republicans put together.
When the Republicans get some gravitas the public will see that. All they see now is weakness.
Trump appears strong and could give some lessons to the milquetoast running the party.
Frankly, you should be excoriating Boehner. He appears to have a knack for stepping into dog doo every time he ennuciates a policy. Talking about raising taxes on the oil companies is just another example.
The real question is why do you fear Trump? At least he will get something done. The current crop of Republicans can't do that.
Alan Brooks| 4.27.11 @ 7:52AM
Only GOP candidate I'd vote for would be Palin, despite the jokes about her, she is the most honest contender you have got; if you live in Alaska you sincerely believe in the frontier spirit because you have to. I like her honesty, frontier spirit, and beauty-- but nothing else about her.
Alan Brooks| 4.27.11 @ 8:27AM
I never wrote I actively dislike Palin; it's only revolting how she overdoes the,
"animals in Alaska are sweet- we eat them all we can!",
when she doesn't need to. I read both her books, you can taste the read white and blue apple pie crust.
flag
apple pie
elk
guns
moose
guns
deer
guns
hot dogs
Fourth of July
hug a veteran
Mt. Rushmore
Jesus Christ
hubby
kiddies
snowmobiles
boats
Too much red white and blue apple pie to digest in one stomach.
Washington monument
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:12PM
Red, white & blue apple pie crust. MMM MMM good.
Better than Barak Hussien Obama MMM MMM good any old day of the week!
Volare| 4.29.11 @ 9:56PM
Want more Palin? Here, take a deep breath:
From http://andrewsullivan.thedaily.....ction.html
----------------------------------------------------------
14 Apr 2011 12:56 PM The Trump-Palin Connection
A reminder of an unlikely historical collision.
From the ADN, April 3, 1993:
Sarah Palin, a commercial fisherman from Wasilla, told her husband on Tuesday she was driving to Anchorage to shop at Costco. Instead, she headed straight for Ivana. And there, at J.C. Penney's cosmetic department, was Ivana, the former Mrs. Donald Trump, sitting at a table next to a photograph of herself. She wore a light-colored pantsuit and pink fingernail polish. Her blonde hair was coiffed in a bouffant French twist.
''We want to see Ivana,'' said Palin, who admittedly smells like salmon for a large part of the summer, ''because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture.''
That doesn't sound like the Palin of TLC fame, does it? I know which one I think is real.
Cyborg| 4.27.11 @ 6:53PM
Still can't stop lying brooks. You don't hate Palin. Should pull up your old posts and expose you as the liberal useful idiot that you are?
Sean| 4.27.11 @ 9:16AM
Paul Ryan is a fraud. You know something is up when the RINOs and neocons push this guy as some sort of budget cutting messiah. Almost all his cuts come years from now if you want to even call them cuts.
Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
buckeyeman| 4.27.11 @ 9:46AM
Amen, brother.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:12PM
The Paul-bots just lllllove the Trump Card.
Volare| 4.29.11 @ 9:59PM
He`s a hypocrite now pushing a middle-class-killing budget based on supply-side fantasy.
We`re already seeing pushback against his budget at town hall meetings. We`ll see even more pushback in November 2012 if the GOP nominee is running on this budget.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.27.11 @ 9:30AM
The White House just released the long form of the Birth Certificate. Apparently Trump got more done by just opening his mouth then all the other forces of nature put together.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/site.....g-form.pdf
vtwin| 4.27.11 @ 9:54AM
Great, now will Donald Trump address the questions about possible homosexual acts the “Don” is rumored to have engaged in during his many “sex parties?”
Shermans riding again!| 4.27.11 @ 10:19AM
Well, my friend vtwin do tell... How was it?
Alan Brooks| 4.27.11 @ 11:05AM
"Well, my friend vtwin do tell... How was it?"
If there's one held with Justin Bieber, please send me an invite-- would like to try it once.
vtwin| 4.27.11 @ 11:43AM
Well I have investigators on the ground in New York, And they cannot believe what they're finding.
I can’t say any more on this now.
No can’t say now.
Not now.
Next Question!
Drunken Sailor| 4.27.11 @ 10:31AM
Funny, I heard the same thing about Obama and Emanuel in the Chicago bath houses.
Larry| 4.27.11 @ 11:03AM
Wouldn't you be able to give us a first hand account VT? Or is it too difficult for you to sit so long and type your memories of that night?
Alan Brooks| 4.27.11 @ 11:11AM
'Wouldn't you be able to give us a first hand account VT? Or is it too difficult for you to sit so long and type your memories of that night?"
Don't pick on Vtwin, I'm the one who will try anything once-- I'm not too old and dried up as some of you coots are, that a last-chance glory hole or two wouldn't come in... handy (as if the rest of you are choir boys).
But you guys have your Clint Eastwood, and war flicks, to turn you on.
Every man to the devil his own way.
missbosslady| 4.27.11 @ 1:34PM
vtwin,
I'm sure the Donald would be happy to do so when Obama addresses the same rumors about himself.
Dolt!
Melvin| 4.27.11 @ 2:46PM
What if he did? Don't ask don't tell has been repealed, Homosexuals are basically treated with the same rights as Heterosexuals.
Being a declared or undeclared Homosexual isn't that really big of, "Hey, hey, pssst, pssst, did you know Donald Trump is a closet queer, tee hee, tee hee."
So what if he is. Lots of Hollywood Liberals are AC/DC, so are a allot of Progressives, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians.
So what if Trump engaged with a one eyed trouser trout, maybe he can get Barney Frank, or Lindsay Graham to vote for a Balanced Budget Amendment .
I just want what everyone else wants, smaller less intrusive government, and having my tax burden eased, so my kids and grandkids don't have to be economic slaves to this government.
What ever the Trumpster did in Trump Towers , isn't that high on the list to reduce my taxes, and bring down the price of gasoline.
vtwin| 4.27.11 @ 3:37PM
Melvin, it was a JOKE, a setup comment followed by a parody of Donald Trump; “I have investigators on the ground in Hawaii, and they cannot believe what they're finding.”
cavan1| 4.27.11 @ 10:02AM
Trump is no conservative. The Democrat Party snuck him in as a distraction .
cavan1| 4.27.11 @ 10:02AM
Trump is no conservative. The Democrat Party snuck him in as a distraction .
cavan1| 4.27.11 @ 10:02AM
Trump is no conservative. The Democrat Party snuck him in as a distraction .
canuckistani| 4.27.11 @ 10:46AM
yes, and 50% of Iowan GOPers have ADD.
Recent Iowa GOP meeting transcript: "The prospects of growth in the US are imperiled by policies being supported.....SQUIRELL!......."
"Moving on, we must remain ever vigilant in the fight......SQUIRELL!....."
"Back to the point, the challenges we face as a nation are.......SQUIRELL!...."
I met an apparently smart man at a biz conference in Pittsburg recently and we got into politics as the lounge's TV had the daily news on. Sensing he was a right-winger, I carefully placed dogwhistle cues for him to chomp on, after a while I stopped talking as he was now on a roll quoting the universal GOP playbook on how "To Serve Man". He finished his diatribe, frothing at the mouth stating "We don't even know if he is an American ! @$%$@!!"
This was a middle-aged, professional yankee that held these views. It made my night, as I saved $20 on improv tix, but later it saddened me that the demo that has historically driven this countries' fortunes is now embodied by fear, mistrust and a complete abandonment of reason....the same crimes we used to accuse the youth and even women of in years past.
If he and his black-bag brethren do not get their heads out of their proverbial butts, we are doomed.
PsychoDad| 4.27.11 @ 8:29PM
Well, I guess we know now that he is indeed a natural-born citizen. If only he were an American in spirit and in truth.
John Navratil| 4.27.11 @ 10:50AM
Obama is a principled man and should be honored as such. His respect for individual privacy extends to making a controversy over nothing. Thank heaven that he had to cash to spend keeping that birth certificate secret and defending everyone's right to keep private things private. It's a crying shame that the cruel world he rules compelled him to reveal that he was actually born.
skip| 4.27.11 @ 4:08PM
Whoa just a minute here.
How do we know that document isn't in fact a long form spawn certificate?
Larry| 4.27.11 @ 11:02AM
The birth certificate is not a big deal. As employers of this America hating clown, we have a right to see it and should have seen it long ago.
Now we can concentrate on Comrade Golfer's school records and the economic toilet bowl that he's put us in.
vtwin| 4.27.11 @ 11:54AM
Ya right, “the birth certificate is not a big deal” but, what about Aires, Wright, and ACRON. Where is their’s birthin’ certificates.
vtwin| 4.27.11 @ 11:54AM
Ya right, “the birth certificate is not a big deal” but, what about Aires, Wright, and ACRON. Where is their’s birthin’ certificates.
Volare| 4.29.11 @ 10:02PM
Except when he`s talking about China. It seems his "Signature" line of clothing is made there. Can you say "hypocrite"?
Doctor Right| 4.27.11 @ 1:32PM
"If the Republicans wanted real conservatism they would have led the charge to shut the government down and told Obama to stuff it right then and there and showed that they believed in their principles."
AMEN!
And that is why the GOP must be purged utterly and completely of all the RINOs, slacker, and non-hackers.
These SOBs need to understand ONE thing:
We're pissed. And we've had enough.
The nation rose-up and threw out hundreds of useless, corrupt Democrats last November. Time to complete that job in 2012, AND to include all GOP-ers who do not tow the Tea Party line.
You are either with us, or you are against us. There's no "middle ground". We don't want to "work" with Obama; we want him retired.
Time to put the GOP on notice. And that means NO ONE is untouchable...Are you listening, Mr. Boehner???
Jeamar37| 4.27.11 @ 6:13PM
Sorry BHO. I haven't spoken to anyone who is fascinated by Trump as a viable political candidate.
To say the US should "just go take the oil" is appalling, irresponsible, and moronic. Besides that, he combover that apparently starts at the back of his neck makes him look like a clown. Fascinating. No!
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.28.11 @ 5:41AM
You're wrong. The poll numbers show him out polling all the Republican wooden cigar store Indians.
http://publicpolicypolling.blo.....-lead.html
Rick Blaine| 4.29.11 @ 10:07PM
Are you in the Armed Forces? Have a loved one there? Then think twice about Trump--it`s clear he`ll send off lots of young Americans off to the middle east to fight and die to keep unfettered access to crude for the Big Oil companies. It would be another War of Choice.
Typical Republican who never served, never wore the uniform, but willing to put others in harm`s way for their own agenda. If Dwight Eisenhower were alive today, he`d resign his membership in the GOP.
John | 4.27.11 @ 6:53AM
Looks like both the left and right media are out to bring down Donald Trump. Even many in talk radio keep saying he is not a conservative. Well on some of the most important issues he is to the right of them, especially on Iran and Red China. Trump is fearless and our enemies around the world will know it and behave accordingly.
He said he would not allow Iran to obtain nukes and he would stop Red China from ripping us off. Now the GOP free trader pundits have convinced the conservative base that unfettered free trade is a conservative position, which is a farce. Our Founders were protectionists who believed in tariffs. They wanted to protect the independence and sovereignty of their beloved America. So-called free trade has decimated our vital manufacturing base and handed it over to a ruthless communist nation who is building a superpower military – yet the talk radio pundits advocate this ant-American sellout. Got it Rush and gang.
JFGalt| 4.27.11 @ 8:00AM
There is a difference between being fearless and reckless. Trump is not about substance, he is about branding. Who would be his Vice-President? Ivanka? Granted she couldn't be any worse than Joe Biden. Trump will likely respond to anything militarily first and while that often sounds like a good thing it is of course inpractical and dangerous. I think you would find that in dealing with CONgress he would be completely stonewalled. He would resort to presidential signing orders to an unbelievable degree and would likely turn this nation more fascist (dictionary definition not the one that gets loosley thrown around) than ever. I don't think he would even be a good advisor. He doesn't listen to anyone other than himself. While the idea of someone that has actually run a business sounds appealing rather than another lawyer with their weasel words, I think we need to keep looking. I believe that Ron Paul would be the right guy but he comes in the wrong package for Americans. Americans want an American Idol for president and like American Idol what you usually get is all glitter and no substance.
JimH| 4.27.11 @ 8:09AM
Most likely he'd have some reality show to pick his VP.
Louis Tully| 4.27.11 @ 8:45AM
Who would be his Vice-President?
Gary Busey? LaToya Jackson?
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:16PM
Ron Paul.
Together they would stop all free trade and decimate the military.
Alan Brooks| 4.27.11 @ 8:15AM
"Trump is fearless"
When you're as wealthy as Trump you are fearless-- unless your tax preparers make a mistake on April 15th.
Lawrence Boccardi| 4.27.11 @ 7:04AM
Two words for Mr. Goldstein. John McCain. A "real" conservative! Trump is not my idea of what we need, but I wouldn't compare him, unfavorably, with that disgrace that sit's in the WH, now! ANYBODY but Obama.
JFGalt| 4.27.11 @ 8:04AM
John McCain sold out this country when he was tapped by Bush to run for the presidency. I was a great admirer of Mr. McCain but when he broke faith and let Bush's torturing slide by, I knew that he sold us out for ambition. I'll never forget the look on his face when he emerged from the White House after meeting with Bush over the torture bill and how Bush wanted it watered down to nothing. McCain was beaten down in that meeting but he had a smirk on his face like he got something that he really wanted instead. He lost me then and his campaign proved me right that what he once stood for was lost.
Stormzeye| 4.27.11 @ 7:08AM
Trump's style of governance would work well in an autocracy like ancient Rome, Syria or Libya. In fact, he shares a lot with Qaddafi in terms of style and insight. Trump is a serial bankrupt who has made his living by building a brand and then licensing it to other developers. He is a Flim-Flam Man. He is nothing but an opportunist and by running for office he sees himself as only polishing his brand. He has the vulgarity of a powerful thug. His thinking is so simplistic he sounds like he gets his inspiration from a lot of the crappy emails that get passed around. Comparing him and Paul Ryan in the same sentence is laughable.
Larry| 4.27.11 @ 7:57AM
A serial bankrupt? WTF??? Go away.
Stormzeye| 4.28.11 @ 5:08PM
That's your idea of a response?? You're a maroon.
JFGalt| 4.27.11 @ 8:08AM
How dare you tell the truth, err, sorry, these outlandish lies and half-truths! Ok, whole truths. Trump is a great man. Look at all he has accomplished! He started with nothing but a rich and pampered youth. He slaved through prep school and an education most couldn't afford to become a rich man. He made bad investments and then flimflammed his way out of it. He hobnobs with celebrities and lives a lifestyle most can't even imagine. Perfect guy to lead this nation.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:18PM
His already huge ego got so fed (by himself) as he took credit for Obama revealing his birth certif. LOL.
missbosslady| 4.27.11 @ 1:39PM
Margie,
Better yet, Trump took what Obama thought would be humiliating moment for the Donald and turned it to his advantage, yet again.
That's called thinking on your feet.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:58PM
I'm not sure he has any advantage, really. (As a serious candidate for President).
One does have to admire his gusto though. He allows no one to walk all over him, and came out of the birth certif. issue looking good, and in that way he definitely had the advantage.
As I said, I'd vote for him if it came down to it, I always vote for the Republican candidate. It's the only way we have to defeat the Left.
scotchieguy| 4.27.11 @ 7:49PM
Who says he is a republican? Do you know how many dem. candidates he has contributed to? He gave $50,000 to Rahm. The truth is, no one knows who he really is, or what he stands for, other than being a major league narcissist. I am enjoying the spectacle, but do not take the man seriously for a second.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 8:14PM
scotchie,
You're right. I don't know if he's a Republican. What I meant was if he runs as a Repub. and becomes the nominee, I'd vote for him~ in order to help defeat the REAL ENEMY~ Obama & the Democrat party.
Short of secessionism and outright rebellion, voting is all we've got. I'd hope that more of us would get behind a better candidate than the Trump Card, but anyway, it is early on and we shall see who else comes forth.
I would have LOVED to back Haley Barbour~ a great conservative and HAWK.
If there are no men brave enough to take on Obummer in the same manner as Trump's doing right now, I know a couple of women who could get the job done without even flinching.
Rick Blaine| 4.30.11 @ 10:07AM
Oh yeah, bring on the southern good ol` boy lobbyist with civil rights baggage. That would have been a winning ticket for the GOP.
Ever hear any of his speeches? He always cited Ed Sullivan. Folks, Ed Sullivan left the airwaves nearly 4o years ago! Oh yeah, THAT would have appealed to the young and independents who voted for Obama in 2008 but stayed home last year.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 2:10PM
Also something to consider~ This could be Obama's way of forwarding Trump right into the Primaries.
Just remember how the Democrats gave us McCain.
With millions of Democrats, they flooded the open Primary states and voted for McCain.
So by the time the later Primaries happen, the only name on the ballot was McCain.
The Slickster (Obama) is even more slick than the original slickster~Slick Willy.
Trump is no more a Republican than Mayor Bloomberg.
Bloomie bought NYC and Trump can do the same thing with America.
Beware.
Stormzeye| 4.27.11 @ 7:10AM
P.S. As bad as he is, I 'd still vote for him over Obama.
canuckistani| 4.27.11 @ 10:52AM
That's where I have fear for the country...you are willing to abandon reason for some mystical reason. Do me a favor and simply stay home on E-day.
Doctor Right| 4.27.11 @ 1:35PM
You're an idiot.
Reason was abandoned in 2008 with the election of this socialist, un-American, ignorant stooge who now sits in the White House.
Conservative or not, Donald Trump would be 1000% better than Obama. Hell, Donald Duck would be better than Obama.
missbosslady| 4.27.11 @ 1:40PM
Doc,
You said it right! I would vote for ANYBODY before I would vote to put this traitor to our nation back in office.
canuckistani| 4.27.11 @ 2:44PM
How would Trump be better? Where is the evidence?
He is suggesting an obnoxious trade war with China and goading OPEC into "playing ball" with cash money for military interventions - interventions authored and executed by US neocon and oil interests - you suggest he marginalize those two constituencies as well?
He has given more do-re-mi to dems over the years, is thrice married and bankrupt. He was in favor of taxing the rich further, IS pro-choice in spite of his recent epiphany and his willingness to demagogue anything and everyone will ice up the gears of power even further.
Think before you exercise your bigotted funny bone in future.
victor| 4.27.11 @ 2:57PM
canuckistani:
"He is suggesting an obnoxious trade war with China and goading OPEC into "playing ball" with cash money for military interventions - interventions authored and executed by US neocon and oil interests"
Letting the Red Chinese Communists walk all over us and not insist that they play by the rules got us where we are to day.
We have more oil than the Saudis, but insist on buying from them and starving ourselves,
and providing a military umbrella for them only makes the more intransigent and unwilling to see things our way.
We can poke everyone in the eye, Chavez, Mexico, OPEC, Putin and Red China by drilling and selling our own oil on the open market and taking control of the situation as well as strengthening the Dollar!
At the present moment he is a useful idiot by making the Obamoids talk about things they do not want to talk about.
PsychoDad| 4.27.11 @ 8:34PM
Sometimes you have to elect the party and not the individual. There isn't a man or woman out there who would satisfy the demands just of every poster here, let alone the millions needed to win the presidency. It's politics, and compromise and accommodation is the what it's all about.
It's not the Spanish Inquisition.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 10:20PM
Which one?
It ain't no Papal Inquisition either, and we're allowed to say what we think.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:19PM
Dittos, I would too.
figusja| 4.27.11 @ 7:13AM
I fear trump, due to the fact that he has spoken of nothing else but the birther issue. What are his beliefs on the economy, foreign policy, the military, the fed, does he believe in government cut backs or tax increases, so on and so forth. There are too many subjects that will define his stance on all different subjects. It is safe to stay quite and seem a fool, than to speak and remove ALL doubt. He will ride this train all the way by staying on one subject. This will not let anyone know his true beliefs till it is too late. Sounds familiar...did someone else do the same thing?.....OH yeah Prez. Hussein did the same thing!
The GOP hacks have to be removed. We have to have long memories. When all of the old guard GOP come up for re-election, just vote them out. No more DC insiders in the government. NO THIRD PARTY!!!!!!!!!!
Gary| 4.27.11 @ 7:15AM
The post above is 100% correct. The Republicans enabled Trump, the candidate. All he did was step into the vacuum they created. By simply verbalizing what 70% of Americans are thinking, he’s struck a chord from coast to coast. As another columnist said, "He has tapped into decades of pent-up frustration among the vast middle-class of the taxpaying public."
Boehner is proof the GOP establishment is alive and well. He's nothing more than a common Republican sellout. DC is littered with them. Any positive press on Boehner is pushed by the Left, just like the praise the Left showered on that backstabbing, reach-across-the-aisle sellout McCain.
The only trait that counts in DC is character. Does the candidate have the courage to stand up to the inevitable barrage of politically correctness from the Left? In other words, is the candidate afraid of his or her own shadow? Trump isn’t. Boehner is.
missbosslady| 4.27.11 @ 1:44PM
Gary,
EXACTLY! The entrenched Republicans created this mess!
These weak-willed, limp-wristed, go-along to get along Repubs are a scourge!
Repubs have a confluence of events that they could bite on and never let go thereby pummeling Obama, and what do they do? Backpeddle, water down or avoid altogether the confrontation.
It is maddening!
Melvin| 4.27.11 @ 7:26AM
Remember when Ronald Reagan, ran for President, and candidate Reagan was derided daily, " He won't be worth a damn, he's just an actor."
Tom Osterman| 4.27.11 @ 8:07AM
The difference is that Reagan did his homework. Not only was he an unabashed conservative, he was intelligent and thought through his ideas, something that became clear when he was debating. And he was gracious and genial.
Trump may be a conservative, but it's not obvious. And he doesn't seem to bring anything to the debate but bluster. A "tough guy" persona isn't enough.
JimH| 4.27.11 @ 8:11AM
Also he had been a quite successful governor by that time.
PsychoDad| 4.27.11 @ 8:36PM
Reagan had also been a Democrat, and learned enough to refudiate his former ways. I'm perfectly willing to accept the possibility that Trump has had a real Road to Damascus moment, politically.
Larry| 4.27.11 @ 7:30AM
Trump is a winner. Trump is successful. Trump has experience in runing things. Trump is much more than some Al Sharpton wanna-be community organizer whose idea of experience is tacking up fliers to phone polls.
I don't believe he's going to run. He knows that this is great publicity for him at no cost. I don't even know his stand on all of the issues. As a guy who owns many hotels, casinos and the like, I'm sure that with or without his knowledge illegal alien invader scum have been hired by those establishments. Still, I don't know where he stands on the issue of illegals.
Would I vote for him over Comrade Golfer? Newt? Mitt Romneycare? You betcha.
JFGalt| 4.27.11 @ 8:11AM
I feel like I'm getting a choice of being shot, stabbed, or beaten to death. In the end Americans just get raped in the end. Pun intended.
SpiralArchitect| 4.27.11 @ 12:11PM
Did you say Democrat, Independant or Republican? Thought so.
arlo price| 4.28.11 @ 12:21AM
BOHICA!!!
WeMustResist| 4.27.11 @ 7:44AM
I certainly agree that Paul Ryan is a wonderful asset, a statesman, and that Trump has a lot to learn. He looks like a novice in politics. However he does have some really useful habits. One of them is pointing out to the public the contradictions in Obama. The birther issue is very relevant both for its legal side and its character side. It is not a dead horse. See below
http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm
for two birth certificates from Kenya, as well as a brief recounting by Obama's paternal grandmother of the circumstances of the birth.
Are there any good reasons to doubt the validity of the two certificates? See also from "You Tube"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Where Obama tells a public meeting he was born in Kenya, and another audience that his approval ratings, even if falling in the USA, "... are still very high in the country of my birth."
So if he says he was born in Kenya why do you doubt him?
More important is the fact that no national Republican figure looks as if they are taking the fight up to Obama except
Paul Ryan, the wonk, and Trump, the crowd pleaser. There are so many issues where Obama deserves to be challenged, and yet the Republican Senators and Representatives are not noticed. The border with Mexico should not be a dead horse. It is a huge threat to the lives and safety of the people. The Libyan adventure is the essence of extravagance and futility. The DOJ and terror. How George Soros benefits from Obama's oil decisions. Each of these issues should get him impeached. How is the public going to learn about Obama's faults if the Republicans are discreet? Is the MSM going to go public? You bet we need more of Trump if he carries on making Obama look silly. Obama really is a threat to the future of the USA and everyone needs to tell the public how and why Obama is a threat. Both Trump and Ryan do that in different ways, so we are lucky to have them, and very unlucky to have Obama.
Mimi| 4.27.11 @ 7:44AM
As every year we just had a family get to-gether for EASTER. The consensus being..." WHATS HE DOING OUT CAMPAIGNING?"....." FOODS up GAS up....what do we do?...starve and not go anyplace?....and he thinks he's gonna get elected???
Yes I would go for a RYAN...WOW....integrity, competence, ....and good with the FIGURES!!
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:22PM
"Yes I would go for a RYAN...WOW....integrity, competence, ....and good with the FIGURES!!"
Amen to that, Mimi. Paul Ryan vs. the Trump Card~ no contest!
martin j smith| 4.27.11 @ 7:55AM
Again let me be breif and to the point: Trump----He fuses on issues that MOST AMERICANS DO NOT CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT AND THER BY IGNORES THE ISSUES THAT THEY DO CARE ABOUT. REASON: HE IS SO RICH THAT HE CANNOT RELATE TO ORDINARY PEOPLE. " ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And, beyond that a sense of NATIONAL MALAISE AND FEAR.Whoever is the Real presidential Candidate had better grasp this and run with it.
canuckistani| 4.27.11 @ 10:55AM
So Trump is too elite, Obama too exotic.
Who fits your narrow pigeonhole as "suitable"?
Donna| 4.27.11 @ 8:03AM
Geez, I am about to leave this site. The incompetence is astounding in writing, research and analysis. Mr. Goldstein, “The Donald’s” plan for Medicare/Medicaid is to bring the Chinese in line with their currency manipulation (approx 300bln), charge S. Korea, Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia for protection services which we “GIVE” to them only to have them screw us on oil. Please the next time you write a piece, save your reputation man, it’s all you have when you’re in the word business.
Teaghan| 4.27.11 @ 8:08AM
Anybody but Barry~
Doctor Right| 4.27.11 @ 1:36PM
"ABM - Anybody but the Muslim"
TennesseeVolunteer| 4.27.11 @ 8:13AM
Aaron, I believe most Conservatives, Independents and Republicans think Trump is doing a public service. He is literally the person saying "the Emperor has no clothes".
We , the Great Unwashed, who live in fly over America know that the media and Obama bully us to not say what Trump is saying out loud.
Do most of us think Trump would be a good President? No!
But do we let him go on because he does a great service for the conservative who will rise up through the primary process? Yes!
It is as simple as that.
You don't take money out of the stock market when it is running up. We are just letting trump do his damage and we hicks, rubes, small business people who went to small colleges, public colleges or not at all, will take over the reins of this country and put in someone that we know can do the job.
Trump is doing the job that the McCain would not, the media would not and most Republicans still will not. We might love him, admire him or appreciate him but that doesn't mean we will elect him until he goes through the same primary process every other Republican will have to suffer through.
Aaron, let him run, he is on a roll and great damage is being wrought upon the Democrats and the media.
Pecos Pete| 4.27.11 @ 9:03AM
Agreed! Very well stated. Trump is doing some useful work at this time. There are many conservatives waiting in the wings ... why should they be shot out of hand ... let The Trump carry the ball for now.
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.27.11 @ 9:22AM
Volunteer, spot on.
Drunken Sailor| 4.27.11 @ 10:38AM
Exactly!!! I look at Trump and think "Shock Troops". He has shouldered the burden of keeping Obama on the defensive. Why else did Obama suddenly realease his long form birth certificate? Ask any Marine and they will tell you when you are taking incoming fire, fire back and advance. The enemy fire isn't all that accurate if they are busying ducking and right now Obama is ducking and running like his ass is on fire.
Drunken Sailor| 4.27.11 @ 12:05PM
And now Trump has moved on the attack again, wanting to see his grades. Keep Firing Don. LOL
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:27PM
Let him prepare the way... and then get out of the way.
I like hearing him go face to face w/ the MSM, it's great. Loved seeing him take on George Steffi Stephanopoulousky.
Let him show the Repubs how it's done. I'd even vote for him if it came down to a choice bet, him & Obummer, but I'd rather a stronger candidate~ do we even know where he stands on foreign policy? We know he's an isolationist.
missbosslady| 4.27.11 @ 1:51PM
Yes, yes, yes Vol!
That's exactly what I've been thinking.
Republicans love to eat their own. It never ceases to disappoint me that the first ones out of the gate to attack someone on the right, is someone on the right.
Here's a tip Mr. Goldstein, when ANY Republican grows a pair of gonads and steps to the plate and speaks with the same boldness as Trump we will give that person a good look.
Until then, Trump is trumping the right.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 2:01PM
Trump is indeed Trumping the Right.. for now. Unless Sarah steps up and announces!
Sarah would Trump even the Trump!
John | 4.27.11 @ 8:13AM
I am not 100% sure but I believe that Paul Ryan pushed for the the Bush bailout of the crooked global banks, including many foreign banks. These multi-national companies who have no loyaty to America own both Parties and the MSM & so-called conservative media. Trump is the only one advocating a pro-American econmic platform thus the bought-off chattering elites are trying to destroy him.
Volare| 4.27.11 @ 8:17AM
Yeah, make the GOP the party of supply-side fantasy, all the time. That, right there, helps re-elect the President next year.
canuckistani| 4.27.11 @ 10:57AM
Plymouth, spot on!
S. Ruger| 4.27.11 @ 8:21AM
Mr. Goldstien, I'm sorry to inform you that almost nobody is listening to you or reading this site, just a few of us conservative wonks. You and the rest of the sedate, wise conservative establishment are talking to yourselves. And you can hear the raging jealously in your voices, especially from the likes of Mark Levin, that here's this glitzy guy Trump that everybody is not only listening to, but eager to hear, even to the point of paying a premium for tickets to his speeches.
You can't even tell the difference between being thin-skinned and being genuinely tough. Did you see Stephanopoulos almost cowering into his chair when Trump got in his face and said, "Next question, George..."?
Sure Trump is not an ideal conservative and sure he gave a chunk of change to the future King of Chicago and sure he's criticizing Prince Ryan for getting too far out in front on entitlement reform, but this guy knows how to deal and how to win.
Who the H else in Republican Land knows anything about those topics?
Maybe Trump is a flash in the pan, but boy is it fun to see him shake up the likes of you!
Louis Tully| 4.27.11 @ 8:49AM
The GOP is not the party of Paul Ryan. It is the party of John Boehner, Mush McConnell and Karl Rove. The GOP of Boehner, McConnell and Rove produced the Trump candidacy, much as it also produced the Presidency of the LowLevelSocialist Agitator.
The sooner that party is dead and buried, the sooner we can get on with the business of rolling back the European Socialist disaster they helped create.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 4.27.11 @ 8:51AM
Trump's good for us, for now!! He's making an issue of something that's been ignored for way too long, who is President Obama? Where's his Birth Certificate? Not the Certificate Of Live Birth, but the real one, the one with the name of the Hospital on it, the one with the Doctors names on it, not the one that you can request at a later date (COLB). The other issue he's bringing to light is Obama's College records, what were his grades, how did he pay for College, what social security number did he use when he applied, did he claim to be a foreigner, or did say he was a Muslim on his application? Inquiring minds really want to know!! President Obama's Mother was an American Citizen, no doubt about that, but his Father was a British subject from Kenya, and unless we've been reading the Constitution wrong for all these years, wouldn't that disqualify him flat out for the Office he holds now? Why didn't the Media talk about this before November 2008, is the Constitution worth the piece of paper it's written on anymore? But nobody wants to talk about this stuff, but Trump does!! Why is that? So like I said, he's good for us for now, and for what he's talking about, because it "is" worth talking about. I hope Trump's got some "real" investigators out there in Hawaii, paying off those "dedicated" Government workers out there (and I hope they sellout easily), to get to the bottom of this, and I hope he finds what he's looking for. Then once he's found what he's looking for, I hope he doesn't run for President, because he's not the guy we're looking for, he's all over the place politically, and he certainly isn't a true Conservative. Dig Donald Dig, and then, Drop Out Donald Drop Out!!
John Navratil| 4.27.11 @ 10:55AM
L, L & L,
And now that the birth certificate has been released expect the narrative to evolve as follows:
(1) It's a forgery
(2) You see, nothing will appease the birthers.
Then add Dan Rather's fakery in for a little piquancy.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:31PM
Yup. Right on, LLL. My thoughts precisely.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 4.27.11 @ 7:06PM
Hi Margie, long time, no see you around!! I hope that makes some sort of sense? So this morning when I wrote my above post, it wasn't but ten seconds later, that they announced that the President was releasing his real Birth Certificate today (after 2-1/2 years). I was like, "damn", because I kind of liked that it was hanging out there, gaining a little traction as an issue. And now, now that battle is over!! But if Trump forced his hand on releasing this, maybe he can push him on the college mystery a little bit now, but don't hold your breath on that one. I don't hold anything against a kid, from a wacky family, but I do hold things against that same kid from a wacky family, when he's all grown up, and has hidden his college papers from view, especially when that kid from a wacky family, is the current President of the United States. What's the big deal MR President? Did you have some bad grades? Of course you did, you were doing drugs back in College, we can understand that, at least those of us who "may" have dabble in them ourselves. No biggie!! The big deal about those papers might be, what did you write as you college thesis Sir, what name did you use when you applied to College, what Social Security number is on there, how in the world did you pay for your elite schooling, or should I say, who the hell paid for your elite schooling, and more importantly, did you claim to be a foreign student when you applied to College? Like your now released Birth Certificate, if you've got nothing to hide, then what's the big deal? Is it spelling errors, or bad grammar on you thesis? Well that's not a good enough excuse, I make spelling mistakes all the time, and grammar, what the hell's grammar between a President, and the People he serves? No biggie there either!! It's good to see you back Margie!!
John: Piquancy? Come on now, don't be throwing crazy words like that around, forcing me to open up my dictionary. "Then add Dan Rather's fakery in for a little" flavor, that would've done just as well too!! K.I.S.S.!!
John Navratil| 4.27.11 @ 7:32PM
L, L & L
I remember getting a 'B' in English for using "50 cent words". But "flavour" as in gumbo isn't quite the same thing as "piquancy" as in the hot sauce to go on it, is it? I'll take the K.I.S. but please leave of the last 'S' ;)
Margie - Great to hear from you!
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 8:31PM
Thanks, LLL's & John for the welcome back.
LLL's~ I heard today on the radio (don't ask me who it was because my memory is a sieve (That's another word for you to look up, maybe). But anyway they were saying that Obama didn't do well in school yet they passed him and let him go to Yale I think it was, and then he didn't do good there either but he graduated... ah well. The thing is that all of it doesn't really matter anyway because to the Left and it's MSM those things are all Resume enhancers.
Actually, growing up, I too was passed from grade and by the time I got to high school I failed miserably and dropped out. Twice as a matter of fact. Family situation contributing in a major way in childhood and then by h.s. it was sheer party time. By the Grace of God I am what I am now~ He brought me to my right mind and it's never too late. Anyone can become self-taught where it counts.
Anyhow I said all that in order to say that imitation is no substitute for the real thing and you can only get by for so long. Obama it seems never had to face the music, and is still getting by without a REAL education!!
(Oh, he did get one alright, but from his "fathers") And he's inflicting it upon us.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 4.27.11 @ 9:21PM
Margie: Yes, I had to look that word up too, thanks for jumping on the pile now too. Nobody around here ever tires of exposing my IQ, or should I say, lack thereof. I've changed my old writing style,... for you folks,... but that wasn't quite enough,.... (remember that? I think it was referred to as a Stream of consciousness), I changed the way I use the apostrophe in my name, but that wasn't enough for you either!! What do you folks want from me, do you need to see my long form Birth Certificate now too? :^) One of these days, I swear, I'm going to come up with a really big word, that none of you will ever know, and then you'll "all" have to look it up. Then, and only then, will I finally get my revenge!! Now all I've got to do is, I've got to find a really good, big word, something truly delphic in origin!! Damn, this is going to be hard!!
John: The last S in K.I.S.S., that one's for me!!
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 9:29PM
What's delphic?
:^)~
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 4.27.11 @ 10:17PM
Ah-ha, Margie stepped right into it, my evil revenge plot has begun!! Actually Margie, it means, "of or relating to the ancient Greek Oracle at Delphi". You see, I used my thesaurus, using the word obscure, and that led me to Delphic, but next time, nest time I swear, I'm not going to give you the definition. Evil I tell you, EVIL!!
Anthony| 4.27.11 @ 9:03AM
Perhaps if the media didn't cover this guy 24/7, maybe this idiocy would stop. All one sees in the media is Trump, Trump, and Trump, because the media are lazy and incompetent boobs who take the easy path to filling time, and Trump can fill time.
The one thing in Trump's defense is his using the birth certificate issue to get attention. I watched the bit with Matthews and Pat B. on Drudge, it was amazing how insane Matthews is about the entire subject. When asked if he'd like to see it, he said he'd like to see a lot of things.
There is absolutely ZERO curiosity in the media over any of Obozo's records. When the issue was pushed, Matthews surved into asking if Obozo did attend Columbia and Harvard, or was that a myth as well. The distain of the media over the entire issue stinks to high heaven.
Pat was flummoxed by Matthews scatter shot change of subjects and failed to mention to Mr. Spittle, that he was one of those who insisted that McCain prove his birth status.
Mark Levin and others are wrong that this issue is a distraction. The more the left continues to provide assinine responses to legitimate questions about Obozo, the more people are waking up. Now Hawaii says even Obozo can't get a copy of his own birth certificate, SAY WHAT??
If we think the likes of Boehner and the rest of the weak sisters R establishment will bring Obozo down in 2012, think again. $5.00 a gal gas is waking people up, but I truly believe that the only was to defeat Obozo is to expose his myth. If you watch the media and Obozo's response, you know they think the same thing.
This fraud must be exposed, for sake of America.
Claire Solt| 4.27.11 @ 9:28AM
Trump would probably be a lot like the Arnold in CA. He prpbably has not given enough thought to many issues. Of course the press will vet him with the stalest and most irrelevant questions possible. O'Reilly's first question was on abortion. Or the penetrating Chris Wallace asked Mitch Daniels about his height, and that bimbo from the Post advised women to get voice lessons. Why do we let the press give us such irrelevant, superficial,pap? And did you hear Bret Hume threatening a real anal exam for Trump while he pooh poos the curiosity the voters have about the unvetted presiden?
Dan Hirsch| 4.27.11 @ 9:44AM
Why is Trump looming so large?
Because it is too soon! Early declarers almost always get taken out - half of the trick of getting the nomination is peaking at the right moment. That's why the more serious the candidate the more tenuous the response to the are you going to run question. Who's already out? Gingrich, Barbour - both sound principled, but have not much chance of catching fire. Look at what happened to Hillary.
So with no one to talk about - Obama tanking-the liberals in the media need something to talk about. Barry loses every debate right now - so they need something, anything. Entering stage right, the Donald. When the going gets tough, the media will launch at Trump-Drudge is already reporting on the fact that most of his donations have been to Democrats (he does build in big, Democratic-controlled cities) and that he doesn't vote all that often.
Trump is just somebody to talk about.
At some point Sarah Palin will become the focus again. I can't wait!
Don't tread on me.
Wally| 4.27.11 @ 9:47AM
Never underestimate Trump. If he wants it, he will win it. Do not think he is some buffoon- his persona is a facade. He is the smartest guy in the room.
Mike Gabel| 4.27.11 @ 10:02AM
It's not even close.
Run, Mr. Ryan, run!
Mike Gabel| 4.27.11 @ 10:13AM
I will say this about Trump, he is serving the role that the compliant liberal media refuses to serve. That is, he's shaking things up and challenging the establishment.
This is providing real value, but not in any way to make Trump a viable candidiate. I don't want a "conservative" candidiate who contributes to liberal politicians and who says "..let the Democrats go first" on budgetary matters.
Paul Ryan is the adult in the room; a statesman who through his principles, policies and articulation will unify and lift this nation. Mr. Ryan has my full support.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 1:32PM
Amen and Amen.
idalily| 4.27.11 @ 11:34PM
And another amen. Fiscal sanity is what we need, and we need it now. Ryan is a statesman. Trump is a showman. No contest. Ryan, please run.
Rev Trask| 4.30.11 @ 10:17AM
Paul Ryan is pushing failed trickle-down economics; he`s hardly a "statesman" but doing the devil`s work, which will destroy the middle-class and end American Exceptionalism.
George S| 4.27.11 @ 10:24AM
If the selection for Republican nominee were held today by ballot without names, who would win? Trump. Because that's all whose being talked about.
Right now, Trump's name is all over the place. He's the guy doing radio interviews and TV appearances. Look at all the words written about him on the web. This is how he does it -- he knows how to sell himself; that is why he is successful.
Stefan Stackhouse| 4.27.11 @ 10:30AM
I guess it is always good to send out the clowns to warm up the crowd before the serious main attraction takes the stage. Now, where is that long pole with the big hook on one end?
Hillel| 4.27.11 @ 10:31AM
Read the 14th amendment. Anyone born or naturalized in the U S...
Read the 14th amendment."Anone born or naturalized in the U S".... Wanting to be near his Mother,Obama was born in the U.S. Hence he's a citizen. Living in Kenya and Indonesia he was a minor and thus could not renounce his citizenship Thus he's eligible! If he claimed he was a foreighn Moslim to get a scholarship it was reprehensible but venal. Really look at Trump's record. He made his money thru "chrony capitalism Just what we don't want. Trump is a clone of Perot the man that gave us Clinton. Let's get someone real.
PsychoDad| 4.27.11 @ 8:41PM
Interesting comment, and almost coherent.
martin j smith| 4.27.11 @ 11:06AM
Final comment on this STUPID TOPIC. I hear Trumps Comments and Obama's and here is my comment: They are perfect together--Trump and Obama. And they should get an ACADEMY AWARD FOR THEIR FINE PERMANCES.
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.27.11 @ 1:10PM
Folks,
I hope you will go to fox online ...scroll down to Gretta, and watch Sarah's butt-ripper.
The video is a academy award winner.
Anthony| 4.27.11 @ 1:30PM
vtwin you are a fool. The worst kind of fool, the kind that doesn't even know he's being used.
So your president, after some 3 years, and a day after his press hack called the B.C. issue a "distraction" does an unannounced document dump of a COLB.
You and the leftist media might think this is great, but you are so blinded by your own hatred and political desires, that you fail to see what kind of man this Obozo truly is.
Your president is a cold blooded, sadistic SOB. His distain for Americans and America is such that he and his chosen few relish the havoc they are reaping daily on America.
No other rational, decent person, let alone the president, would have been so disrespectful of the Constitution and the people to have ignored this issue for so long with such contempt. He is a sick man.
I've news for you vtwin; you and your ilk think you have immunity from this man. You are sadly mistaken. When the time is right, Obozo will scrape you and your friends off the soles of his shoes and will enjoy the sight of seeing your smeared on the sidewalk.
vtwin| 4.27.11 @ 3:51PM
Anthony, the certificate was just misplaced, took a while to find, damndest thing, the certificate was found under copies of Hillary Clinton's missing law firm documents ;)
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01.....house.html
Anthony| 4.27.11 @ 9:32PM
Yes, she played you for a fool as well.How does it feel being a serial moron?
Doug| 4.27.11 @ 2:09PM
Like the author of this article you mean?
Jeremiah| 4.27.11 @ 2:10PM
Of course Trump is not a conservative - and not someone I would vote for for president. But he has served as a useful wrecking ball.
I am not and never have been a birther. Frankly, I would be perfectly pleased to see that particular qualification for the presidency abolished through a Constitutional amendment. However, it deeply offended me how many conservatives ridiculed birthers for asking for something that just about every one of us had to produce to get a drivers license. Frankly, I think that many conservative writers did this as a sop to prove to the establishment media that they weren't the "nutty" type of conservatives.
Well, nuts to that. Even nuts are entitled to the sort of basic information that we all must produce. Try going to a social security office without your birth certificate. Are you going to tell me that it is reasonable to require an actual birth certificate to get a drivers license or social security, but only nuts would demand you produce it in order to take the office of president?
Now that it has been produced, many are saying the issue ends. Well, that particular issue largely ends. But the underlying issue is the mania for secrecy on the part of the Obama team for the most basic information. That is what the birthers were getting at clumsily - and rather than insulting them, conservative commentators should have been in the forefront of demanding that Obama and the Democrats be as forthright and transparent as the establishment media has always demanded Republicans be. That is, and always has, been the real issue.
Volare| 4.27.11 @ 8:02PM
"But the underlying issue is the mania for secrecy on the part of the Obama team for the most basic information"
But I wonder if you and the other `baggers felt this way about the "secrecy mania" in the last admin, as personified by Dick Cheney.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 8:33PM
Alex Jones calling?
PsychoDad| 4.27.11 @ 8:43PM
Irrelevant. Sock Puppet ran on transparency, and was feted as a "genius." Why are the school transcripts still a state secret?
Wayne | 4.27.11 @ 2:12PM
Kind of a dopey article. First trying to excuse Obama by saying Trump is just as bad, then throwing Ryan into the mix.
Trump is resonating, but Goldstein seems a bit too lazy to even read the comments to figure out why. We are tired of the same old ruling elite telling us that it is wrong to be American's first. Is Trump the candidate we want in the end, probably not. But he is clearing a path for that candidate. It could be Bachmann. It could be Palin. It could be West. I know this, it will likely be one who truly gets the Tea Party and what it means to be an American.
And I don't think Goldstein is likely to notice.
canuckistani| 4.27.11 @ 3:04PM
What does it mean to be an American? Explain.
Punchlines like: "Get your government hands off my medicare", or permitting our discourse to be hijacked by sideshow freaks that demonize leaders and casually walk away like music men when the natives smell a rat.
Does that best describe your American utopian standard?
What about permitting companies to abandon pension plans without a penalty, or seeking to defang the new consumer protection bureau, or defunding the EPA when we all know with a certainty the fracking hysteria is our next national disaster. Are you going to pay for it?
You likely "supported" the troops by not questioning Junior but evidently micro-scrutinizing the exotic who inherited two messes is patriotic. 2M service members now have veteran status thanks to the last guy that co-opted your American credentials.
Are you clamoring for the construction of hospitals and long-term care facilities on the government dime? What about an enhanced GI Bill? Or how about any bill that preserves the American institutions that fit your narrow views? Nope, none to be found. Must be the exotic's fault.
My America requires contribution and accountability for actions taken in my name. We got here holding hands with our fellow citizens and will get out of it together. Simply sulking and pointing fingers is more befitting a spoiled brat than a true citizen.
Rev Trask| 4.30.11 @ 10:26AM
Right on, but don`t forget the part about getting The Gobmint off our backs but not out of your bedroom.
Rev Trask| 4.30.11 @ 10:24AM
Too bad for you that Tea Party is losing traction amongst the people overall, although not Republicans.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147.....-High.aspx
John | 4.27.11 @ 3:22PM
About an hour ago El-Rushbo was dissing Trump again -- claiming he was not a conservative because he wants to slap a 25% tariff on goods from China. Rush has it backwards --Trump cracking down on communist China is both patriotic and conservative. Trump is a protectionist for sure – he is protecting our sovereignty, independence and ability to make things.
Alas, Rush is in the same liberal, globalist camp as free traders, Gore, Clinton and John Kerry. Besides, when does giving a communist nation entire U. S, factories, including hi-tech companies, nurtured and bred by hard-working Americans, count as trade (goods).
The big-money talking heads are deathly afraid of Donald since he is exposing the unholy globalist alliance with both the left and the right. George Washington would be cheering him on.
PsychoDad| 4.27.11 @ 8:46PM
What bizarre alternate reality have I stumbled into where Rush Limbaugh is assaulted as "in the same liberal, globalist camp as free traders, Gore, Clinton and John Kerry."?
I'm not a fan of Rush, but that's just lala-land absurd.
Volare| 4.27.11 @ 8:53PM
Billionaire Rush is merely a mouthpiece for the wealthy and big corporations. Always has been, even before he became syndicated.
Margie| 4.27.11 @ 9:45PM
I too am a mouthpiece for the wealthy and big corporations.
The wealthy have hired me in the past and have helped me provide for myself.
The big corporation that employed me even gave me practically free health insurance as well as a number of vacation days.
I worked for one for 5 years till they were bought by another even bigger corporation and moved to another state.
It gave me lots of experience in the "big world" and helped me to get future jobs with my expertise now gained from working there.
The wealthy also give freely, well, at least the conservative ones do, to charities of their choices. And they give lots.
I know that el Rushbo (as I like to call him, and dearest el Rushbo when I write to him) gives a huge amount of money to charity, one of them being for Lukemia research.
Rush Limbaugh is a great guy. He's so totally cool and genuine but you can't even recognize it because you're drinking some kind of Kool-Aid.
Volare~ being rich isn't evil, it really isn't.
Boy, do you need some re-education.
Rick Blaine| 4.30.11 @ 9:55AM
I take it you believe the wealthy and big corporations should be exempt from shared sacrifice when it comes to helping bring down deficits (which the GOP didn`t care about when Bush was president-- see Dick Cheney's "Deficits Don`t Matter" statement to Bush`s cabinet).
Davey Jones| 4.27.11 @ 11:00PM
Rush gives more to charity in one year than you will probably make in your entire lifetime.
JimmyT| 4.27.11 @ 6:19PM
It's always nice to hear from the munchkins. I don't believe Trump could be voted president, but, for the likes of you to try to diminish the man is contemptible. Every one comments on his failures, but nobody praises his success. Failure is where you learn what NOT to do. I'm sure your daddy told you, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything".
Negro X| 4.27.11 @ 6:54PM
Trump and Ryan are both hacks, no better than the buffoon curretnly in the oval office.
proreason| 4.27.11 @ 8:05PM
I think republicans should call themselves the Little Tent party.
Maybe Mr. Goldstein can be the gatekeeper, along with Mark Levin.
Davey Jones| 4.27.11 @ 10:46PM
Is that fear I smell from the gatekeepers? Frankly, right now, I'm not hearing a whole lot of noise coming from any of the Repub candidates except for Palin on occasion. If they are all too timid to come out and take a stand on anything I'm happy to listen to sombody who isn't afraid to speak up.
Rev Trask| 4.30.11 @ 4:27PM
Palin only makes noise from behind her Facebook account and occasional visits to friendly (ie, Tea Party) audiences, where she preaches to the choir.
Meanwhile, Tea Party princess Nikki Haley has openly complained about the motley crew the GOP has assembled, saying none of them interest her. Maybe Dan Quayle and Bob Dole should seriously consider jumping in.
John II| 4.27.11 @ 8:31PM
"Do we really want to go from Barack to buffoon?"
The Professor once again burnished his unpresidential credentials by denouncing Mr. Trump as a "carnival barker." Apart from the usual clumsy indignity of obsessing publicly over his apparent political enemies, Professor Obama's metaphor is inept.
A more general term of abuse such as "buffoon" would have afforded him some of the offhand aloofness he seems at pains to project. But "carnival barker" is too nervously studied, as if he cribbed it from a frantic speechwriter and practiced it in front of a mirror, struggling to find the right intonation.
And to think I used to cringe when G.W. Bush responded with dignified silence to every lie, every slander, every piss-ant outburst of vicious contumely from the Professor's party of compassion.
And now back to "The Desert Fox" (1951), in which James Mason, as Rommel, is the very avatar of dignity itself. Gregory Peck is pretty good at it too in "The Guns of Navarone" (1961). Not to gainsay Alec Guinness in "The Bridge on the River Kwai" (1957). . . . Did I mention Richard Crenna in "The Sand Pebbles" (1966)? . . .
Davey Jones| 4.27.11 @ 10:37PM
"If Trump gets to exchange his view of Central Park from Trump Tower for a view of the Rose Garden from the Oval Office, then we can expect him to give the Constitution, Congress, and the Courts the same regard he's given his ex-wives. Do we really want to go from Barack to buffoon?"
How can you possibly make a statement like that?Using logic like that, I guess we can assume, since obama is known to have associated with known domestic terrorists (ayers) he is going to blow up the White House and maybe the Pentagon any day now.
Dee See| 4.27.11 @ 11:05PM
---MAJOR Democrat contributor, franchise slumming pioneer, promoter of our soft porn, sports n' wampum 'culture', arch-Globalist during the very
heyday of RED China sellout, and now the 'saviour'
of the economy.
The PERFECT capstone creep diversion
to undercut genuine, and swelling outrage and
indignation.
It's the TREASON issue folks.
---------Keep your eyes on THAT ball!
REALLY
Davey Jones| 4.27.11 @ 11:51PM
If the Republicans think Trump is a distraction from the more serious issues then why aren't they out there attacking those issues every day? There are no shortages of things to attack obama on, but it's mighty quiet out there. If Trump wants to get in there and mix it up a little thats fine with me. At least he's creating some excitement and shining some light on the problems we face. And don't tell me it's just about the birth certificate. Thats bunk. He's talking about domestic energy production, he's talking about trade, he's talking about the budget and the economy. If he is the only one who has the cojones to take on obama right now, I will listen to him. What are the rest of the Repubs doing? waiting to unveil another plan as brilliant as the budget deal they just quit on?
Jeff| 4.28.11 @ 5:06AM
AAron,
are you really that dense ?
The Party of Trump ????
Trump invited himslef to the GOP party, pure and simple and the party will never consider him, ever ...
nobody has to wait until next year ...
You are useless as an opinion writer if this is the sort of nonsense you continue to put out ...
bill reynolds| 4.28.11 @ 7:17PM
Aaron Goldstein .... Enough of the name calling. This is typical ADL material if it were reversed on you!. The point is the point ... why did it take 2 1/2 years to produce the "Certificate of Live Birth" Also, if you read Obama's book on the relationship he had(or did not have with his biological sperm donor) his name was BARRY and not as it appears on the birth certificate BARACK. The dots just don't connect. Your opaque whining is self revealing. Pulling the race card ... SHAME! SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!
Creative Recreation | 8.10.11 @ 9:44PM
is good