Shortly after the first U.S. cruise missiles hit their targets
Saturday, the collateral damage became apparent -- not in Libya,
but on the home front, where liberal credibility was shattered by
President Obama's sudden resort to military action against Moammar
Gaddafi's regime. Those who had hailed Obama's ascent as the dawn
of a new age of peace, an end to the alleged "cowboy" belligerence
of the Bush years, exploded with a mixture of outrage, confusion
and chagrin as their hero flung the country into war in North
Africa.
None was more indignant than Michael Moore. The left-wing
filmmaker had spent George W. Bush's presidency in frothing rage at
Republicans whom he accused, at the 2004 Democratic National
Convention, of practicing "the politics of hate." That same year
Moore released Fahrenheit 9/11, a dubious "documentary"
which portrayed Bush as a secret ally of Osama bin Laden. And in
April 2008, on the eve of the crucial Democratic primary in
Pennsylvania,
Moore publicly endorsed Obama because, he said, "the actions
and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely
disappointing to downright disgusting."
Evidently, in Moore's view, Obama's words and actions have
recently gone in the same direction. Saturday afternoon, the
director unleashed a torrent of mocking messages on Twitter: "We're going to keep
bombing countries until we get it right.… May I suggest a 50-mile evacuation zone
around Obama's Nobel Peace Prize?… Bombing Libya today was like an
Iraq War anniversary present to ourselves!" Indeed, in an irony not
lost on Moore, the attacks on Libya by a U.S.-led coalition fell on
the eight-year anniversary of the beginning of Operation Iraqi
Freedom, which liberals had long cited as Exhibit A in their case
against the Bush administration.
While Moore's outbursts were
sarcastic -- and nearly hysterical -- more sober reflections
occurred to
Josh Marshall of the liberal Talking Points Memo blog. Marshall
went on for more than a thousand words Sunday before concluding
that the Libyan intervention "strikes me as a
mess, poorly conceived, ginned up by folks with their own weird
agendas, carried out at a point well past the point that it was
going to accomplish anything."
Less sober, but more personally aggrieved, was the
Atlantic Monthly's Andrew Sullivan, who during the Bush
years went from being an initial supporter of the president's
aggressive anti-terrorism stance to being one of Bush's most
outspoken critics. After Saturday's first air strikes against
Gaddafi, Sullivan recalled Obama's own words from a December 2007
interview with the Boston Globe:
"The President does not have power under the
Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a
situation that does not involve stopping an actual or
imminent threat to the nation."
Libya posed no such threat, Sullivan wrote Saturday, saying he had supported Obama in
the Democratic primaries against Clinton and in the general
election against Republican Sen. John McCain because
"both Clinton and McCain were unrepentant fans of
presidential war-making powers.… But the president we supported is
not, it is now clear, the president that we have." And in a Sunday
TV appearance with Chris Matthews, Sullivan huffed: "I
don't know why anybody voted for Obama in the
primaries."
The sense of being betrayed by Obama wasn't limited to
liberal pundits. Members of Congress on the left wing of the
Democratic Party, many of whom had supported Obama against Hillary
in the 2008 primary campaign, expressed their outrage in a caucus
conference call Saturday. Politicoreported
the complaint offered by one unnamed Democrat on that call:
"They consulted the Arab League. They consulted the United
Nations. They did not consult the United States Congress." Ohio
Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who had been one of Obama's rivals for the
2008 nomination, said the attack on Libya
"would appear on its face to be an
impeachable offense," because the president hadn't sought
congressional approval.
In an accusation reminiscent of the Bush era -- when the
president was often accused of invading Iraq to take over that
country's oil resources -- Massachusetts Democrat Rep. Ed Markey
alleged similar motives for Obama's intervention in Libya. "We're
in Libya because of oil," Markey flatly declared Monday in an
interview with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell. "I think
all Americans know why the president made this strike."
Conservatives were themselves divided on the wisdom of
U.S. intervention in Libya, but the burden of justifying Obama's
policies fell on the president's liberal supporters, and few seemed
eager to defend him. Indeed, the attacks on Gaddafi's forces were
the latest in a long list of liberal grievances about Obama's
failures to reverse Bush-era national security policies. U.S.
troops are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, foreign terror suspects
are still being detained at Guantanamo Bay and, during two years
when Obama had an overwhelming Democrat majority in Congress, he
failed to repeal the PATRIOT Act.
Whether or not U.S. air power will be enough to overthrow
Gaddafi, the president's resort to military action has clearly
wounded his liberal supporters -- and conservatives were more than
happy to apply salt to those wounds. In his Saturday cri de
coeur, Sullivan complained of the "stingingly smug words" of
conservative blogger Glenn Reynolds, mocking liberal discomfiture
over the Libyan intervention.Reynolds responded on
his Instapundit blog: "You were played. I told you so at the
time. The whole hope-and-change thing was an obvious con, and you
were among the rubes who fell for it anyway. And yeah, I'm rubbing
it in."
The United States needs another gratuitous war like a
hole in the head. Where are the men to fight it? Where is the money
to pay for it?
jothepro| 3.22.11 @ 7:26AM
It would be cheaper to put a hole in the head of Gadhafi
!!!!!!!!
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 8:02AM
Sssssssshhhhhhhhhhh, we aren't targeting quadaffy!
john dubose| 3.22.11 @ 12:14PM
The problem with attacking Gadhafi personally:
We do not know whether his successor would please us more. (
probably not ).
It sets the precedent of one day a foreign country could decide
OUR pres had to be killed.
Bad Plan
Paul in Colorado| 3.22.11 @ 2:05PM
Plenty of folks believe that precedent was set when the Kennedys
tried to snuff Castro with their gangster connections and exploding
cigars, and got as good as they gave.
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 3:29PM
Lucky for Monica ole Slick Willie didn't find that old Kennedy
box of cigars lying around the Oval Office, eh?
With that girl's luck, she might of gotten the sexual thrill of a
lifetime, literally.
On second thought, maybe that's why the girl still carries a torch
for him. Oh Slick Willie, you ole dog you.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 8:17AM
You don't mention Alex Jones, a Rightwing counterpart to Mr.
Fahrenheit 9-11. Jones says he transcends right and left, but he
does not. He is a rightwing Christian in Texas. And Jones isn't
just a little micro-cult guy such as Reverend Phelps.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 8:20AM
what I'm saying is: a crypto-Rightist such as Jones now has more
influence than a Michael Moore.
God Is Truth| 3.22.11 @ 9:12AM
American Spectator on line's kook conspiracy theorist goes off
the deep end yet again. American Spectator readers, please don't
encourage him by responding. Alan, there is nothing remotely
Christ-like in the rantings of Alex Jones. Stop using wackos like
Alex Jones to paint Christianity with your broad brush. Please get
to know God before placing Him & His followers amongst lunatics
who crave attention. You are correct that Jones needs help. Other
than that you have no clue about Christianity. Please get one. Get
to know God's one & only Son & find out who He really is.
Take care & God bless.
Albert| 3.22.11 @ 1:04PM
Really? I have never heard of Alex Jones and I do not know of
any movies he has made (fake documentary or otherwise) nor of any
connection at all with Hollywood. "More influence"??? Are you
serious?
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 7:29PM
I would pay money to have Michael Moore sexually use me as a
woman.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 7:44PM
"I would pay money to have Michael Moore sexually use me as a
woman."
This is Clint again.
Oldefarte| 3.22.11 @ 12:15PM
Jones says in a 2005 article : "....I’ve known my friends for
many years, but I couldn’t believe them. I got home and spent three
hours on the Internet at the University of Texas’ historical
website, at other universities’ websites in Mexico and Illinois,
and on the website of the Hispanic Historical Society.What I
learned chilled me. They didn’t just write up a plan, they acted
upon it, killing at least 21 white males in South Texas in
cold-blooded murder. We’re talking helter-skelter, Charlie
Manson-type cold-blooded murder of random white ranchers and
farmers: cornering people and hacking them up.I then found websites
making excuses for it by saying, “well, whites did this to
natives…” Yes they did. Select military units did, which should
have been brought to justice for their actions. And I’ve spoken out
against them, be it at Wounded Knee or in Waco.Think about it:
full-grown adult men with their families wearing shirts calling for
the killing of all white males above 16. Will there be a genetic
test? Will Hispanics who are more than half white be killed? How
far will this racial state go? This is the nightmare of tribalism.
As this intensifies it’s only going to create friction on both
sides. None of us are going to be safe, whether we’re from India,
Mexico or Germany....."
Oldefarte| 3.22.11 @ 12:54PM
Hey, Alan, WHERE'S YOUR T-SHIRT??????
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:24PM
In the closet with my Howdy Doody cowboy hat, and the Dick Tracy
decoder ring
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:25PM
... oh, and the Little Orphan Annie milk mug, too.
GavInTucson| 3.22.11 @ 11:56PM
I'll agree with Jones' statement that he transcends right and
left.
It goes like this: you have the right, you have the center, and
you have the left. And then you have Alex Jones and his followers,
evidently hovering in outer space somewhere over Lake Michigan.
dennis b| 3.22.11 @ 9:36AM
We will fund this adventure by confiscating Michael Moore's
personal wealth. It was just last week that Mr. Moore himself
stated that personal wealth in this country does not belong to the
individual. It is a national treasure that belongs to all of us,
i.e the government.
Hey Mike, what did you net on your last whack-job flick
alone?
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:00PM
Perhaps we can also get him liposuction'ed and render the
resultant metric ton (just guessing) into soap, and then sell that
to all the lefty coops in Madison. The profits generated can be
used to pay for all the vandalism he and his caused.
While we're at it, perhaps we can weaponize his body odor as
well... even liberals have complained about that.
Abu Nudnik| 3.22.11 @ 5:24PM
funny comment but, seriously, the precedent isn't worth the act,
like the assassination idea above.
loulou| 3.22.11 @ 11:42AM
Furthermore, it's not OUR fight.
Let Allah sort it out.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:31PM
Michael Moore is so fat, he (along with Sally Struthers) is
probably responsible for world hunger- by eating up most of the
food reserves.
Dee See| 3.22.11 @ 6:56AM
"---As soon as the Middle East is 'brought in'
the US will itself be 'brought down' so swiftly it will make your
head spin."
-ALAN WATT
(essential online coverage)
"The CFR runs the nation."
-HILARY CLINTON
(unapologetically just days ago)
HUAC meets NUREMBERG ---------is the only
answer.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG with all possible
speed.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG --------NOW
Peppermint Tea| 3.22.11 @ 8:39AM
What is HUAC?
Skippy| 3.22.11 @ 12:59PM
House UnAmerican Activities Committee.
A critical branch of our Federal Govt. that was dissolved in order
to clear the way for the liberals and communists(redundancy
alert)to hijack our nation.
cuban pete| 3.22.11 @ 3:02PM
My understanding is that the committee was the House Committee
on UnAmerican Activities but the journalists of the day transformed
it to HUAC because that configuration flowed more trippingly from
the tongue.
Skippy| 3.22.11 @ 3:38PM
It always makes me smile when liberals refer to Senator Joseph
McCarthy(blessings and peace be upon him)and his HUAC witch
hunters.
House...Senator...Priceless!
cuban pete| 3.22.11 @ 4:33PM
Turned out Tailgunner Joe was right given what we learned from
the Venona Papers.
The Army-McCarthy hearings came after HUAC.
Kenny| 3.22.11 @ 7:06AM
To hell with michael moore and the rest of his ilk.
The bombing of Libya is insane. I'm sick and tired of this
nation building crap. And what will we get from it but another
million-plus more parasites on the U.S. dole?
Mike W| 3.22.11 @ 8:31AM
Well stated. Short and to the point.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:33PM
We could end world hunger if Michael Moore went on a diet.
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:07AM
Ultimately, what I think we'll get is another group of
middle-easterners despising us because we "humiliated" them by
helping them, reinforcing the idea that they're too weak to do it
themselves.
I'm using their logic, not mine.
K962| 3.22.11 @ 7:13AM
Moore is a moron. But Obama is here and there and all over the
place on this! As Michael Corleone said
"your not a wartime consuleri" (Insert President).
benny heavens| 3.22.11 @ 10:41AM
The president is following the rule that Michael’s father laid
out, “ Never let anyone outside the family know what you’re
thinking..”.
JP| 3.22.11 @ 7:28AM
The whole operation begs the question: What if the airstrikes
are not enough? What then?
And the UN was supposed to be enforcing a "No-Fly-Zone". Bombing
soft targets I suppose is now included in that definition. So, the
UN is bombing radar facilities, air fields, ship yards, and
bunkers. Who is supplying the rebels? Iran? What if the Colonel is
successful in defeating the rebels? What will Field Marshall von
Hillary suggest then? The UK has oil contracts (as does most of
Europe) with Lybia. Will the UK and France just go back to business
as usual? Or will they set-up an embargo? I remember how that went
the last time around (remember the Oil for Food scandal?).
So, we have a President who went kicking and screaming to the
Stratego board. His group of aging hippy hens who run State and the
NSC are frothing with agression (perhaps there's some kind of pent
of anger at Gadaffy's habit of hiring buxom slavic "nurses"); these
same women frothed at the mere mention of Bush-Cheney-Haliburton 7
years ago now want war at any cost.
And wither the GOP? Lugar is content to issue "sober" and
"mature" bromides from his Senate office(Lord knows he has had 30
years of practice. That's all he knows how to do); Boehner whines
about being left out of the party (if I remember correctly, Obama
has 90 days to "inform" Congress).
And the Left? Who really cares. In the end they will march
lockstep behind thier Fuhrer. Michael Moore may throw some hissy
fits. But he knows who ultimately pays for his Big Macs and
Whoopers. Ditto for Ralph Nader.
This is all political theatre, and not very good theatre at
that. Everyone is so self conscious of the parts that they must
play, that one gets the feeling that they'd all rather be somewhere
else. Even the President seems very irritated to have his
vacation... I mean diplomatic trip interrupted by a mere war.
Instead of "Let them eat cake!", it's," Let them (the Beltway MSM
borg) have theatre!"
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:27AM
Yep, there are certainly a great many question marks and not
many answers.
My initial gut response is to help the rebels overthrow a
dictator, although I disagree with how the President went about
it.
However, I'm not quite sure who we're supporting. Are they
elements of AQ, Muslim Brotherhood, or some other radical element
of Islam? My gut response doesn't have any real facts to back any
of this up, because I don't have any real answers to those
questions.
Could we be unleashing an even bigger monster? It's certainly
possible.
And then I have to look at the broader picture. It seems a tad
strange that all of these uprisings are occurring around the world
at basically the same time. Why? Who's behind them?
What if we're seeing the beginning stages of a global economic
collapse, right in front of our eyes, a type that would make
2008/2009 look like a warm up?
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:29AM
What if this collapse is deliberate? If so, why? And what's on
the horizon if so. Why then?
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 7:42AM
If Harpo-Marxist and closet Capitalist Fat Bastard Moore's
opinion ever reaches the point when it matters then we ARE in big
trouble. As far as the leftists in his party squawking and
squealing, they will get back in line when election season rolls
around like good comrades. The Constitution? We did it matter
anymore! If nobody defends it its just an antique piece of paper, a
museum curiosity, nothing more. And lastly, Comrade Obama, the most
feckless, indecisive weakling who ever served in the presidency
makes Carter look like George S. Patton. The Comrade has the
leadership qualities of Moe Howard, Neville Chamberlain, and Daffy
Duck rolled into one. The preditors of the world must be licking
their chops. A final note to the Comrade. Next time you need to
make a speech, turn the teleprompter around so we can read it and
go play golf instead and spare us your presence. Despite the putrid
education system, there are still many of us who can still
read!
cuban pete| 3.22.11 @ 9:22AM
Great points as always, Mike D. However, as to Chamberlain my
understanding is that after it was shown he had been duped he
became a strong supporter of the war effort. If that is true I'd
cut him a little slack.
Abu Nudnik| 3.22.11 @ 5:26PM
Hey ! Don't insult Harpo Marx !
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:44AM
That's the wag, Mike. While his opinions don't necessarily mean
anything to you and I, it apparently resonates with roughly half of
this country's population.
We are in trouble!!!
Hillel| 3.22.11 @ 7:47AM
I hope it's on youtube,The daily show" interview with an
"administration spokesman" on the bombing of Libya. Actually our
policy is incoherent.I only hope Bismark was right when he said
"G-d protects drunks,fools,small children and theUnited States of
America."
Richard Baker| 3.22.11 @ 7:52AM
Sad that our military is put in harm's way because the Kenyan
couldn't find an aspirin factory to bomb as Slick Willy did.
Amazing that even the left crazies are mad at him. That's the way
to start your re-election campaign.
Dave| 3.22.11 @ 8:05AM
Air power alone has never won a single war. Air power alone
won't win this one either. You have to put boots on the ground in
order to achieve victory.
Stephanie| 3.22.11 @ 8:30AM
Ahhh, good point Dave. obama told us "there will be no boots on
the ground" which in obama speak means, "there will be boots on the
ground" As he guts the military.
Ted| 3.22.11 @ 11:35AM
"Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima
they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb
it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life--but if you
desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you
must do this on the ground, the way the Romans did, by putting your
young men in the mud."
This Kind of War
by T. R. Fehrenbach
So we learn the lesson yet again that an air campaign is no
substitute for a combined military campaign... But I also must ask,
why does the U.S. need to keep Libya for civilization? What U.S.
interests are at stake in Libya?
There are French, British, and general European interests at
stake there. Oil and Gas. But of course our enlightened
Euro-brethren have been free riders on the U.S. and the U.S.
military since 1945 and told us how much better they were because
they spent all their money on social programs.
So now that their national interests are at stake, they have no
military with which to protect those interests. And gin up a con
job turn us into their military contractors.
Abu Nudnik| 3.22.11 @ 5:26PM
Yes. "No ground troops" = "Read my lips: no new taxes." It's
absurd and a lie.
Ted| 3.23.11 @ 2:36PM
You are on the money. Today there is a story out that U.S.
Marines are being deployed to Libya.
Fehrenbach's book is one of the best US War histories ever
written---he led troops in that war. And it's on Kindle.
Michael L. Hauschild| 3.22.11 @ 11:55AM
You are correct Dave, Air Power really only "ended" one war, but
WWII may have been different if one of those B-25's left the Hornut
with four or five megatons.
Wars are still won by ordinance, however. There are two facets of
ordinance that must be balanced in the equation of “killing people
and breaking their stuff.” The first is the delivery system;
Contrary to popular liberal conception soldiers or “boots on the
ground” are usually the best mechanism. They “deliver” very
inexpensive “ordinance” (bullets) for exactly the same base stipend
no matter where they are standing. I am not sure, but I will bet
for less. When deployed combat pay or overseas pay probably does
not match the housing allotment many receive her in the USA. I have
been out of the ranks for four decades but the training I received
back then palls to what our magnificent soldiers receive today,
even so, after all that time, I still (for one day out of the
month) can knock your helmet off at 600 yards.
The second aspect of ordinance is a simple ratio of mass versus
energy. A 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO or 30-06 Gov (my personal favorite)
round weighs very little and works really, really, really well.
(Carlos you’re my hero.) Small arms, Tomahawks, 155’s, 105’s, or HE
from a chin gun are all within the same magnitude no matter whether
the explosive “sends” or is “terminal.”
Even though the Middle East provides a great “playing field” for
target acquisition intelligence (they rat each other out probably
as much as they hate us), there are always those “over the horizon”
or IED issues. Also the concept of “surprise” ironically seemed to
end with the great communicator.
We need to advance, we need to retreat, and we need to demark. The
advance is in magnitude, air/fuel would be a nice warm-up.
Collateral damage is actually minimized when no collateral remains.
The retreat is temporal; ”Return with us now to those thrilling
days of Actor Guild Presidents when everyone kept their pie hole
shut.” The demarcation is what was exhibited by RR, “When my had
comes off the Inauguration Bible…….., by Harry and that second
bomb, and the Bush II administration with “Shock and Awe.” If you
doubt this, objectively examine Gadaffi’s behavior. What does he
respect more, cowboy boots or Air Jordan’s, ponder this while the
Commander in Chief is shooting hoops in Rio.
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:49AM
Very true, Dave, and very axiomatic.
Stephanie| 3.22.11 @ 8:28AM
I think I dispise this fat ugly man more than what obama and his
ilk are doing to our country.
Peppermint Tea| 3.22.11 @ 8:47AM
The fat ugly man has been at the forefront of the Demoncrats
talking points for the last 5 years. He is pretty much setting
their agenda. Remember his "capitalism bad" "Bush lied" and "Cuba
is the model for heathcare." He determines their agenda. It's
awkward that BHO got ahead of him--he should have waited for
Moore's take on Gadahfi before sending the tomahawks.
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 9:18AM
Don't pay any attention to Fat Bastard. He's been demoted to
useful idiot 2nd class with corn dog clusters.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:20PM
Says you. You don't have tens of thousands of imported union
goons, screaming hyper-lefty teachers, and stoned college Democrats
swarming your capital. They loved him there like they loved him in
his first propaganda piece against GM (that we now own).
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 3:51PM
That crowd of leftist lunatics that invaded madison would have
cheered Porky Pig if he went up there and stuttered what they
wanted to hear.
Fat Bastard was just media whoring like the rest of the camera
chasing leftist parade of relics from protests gone past. It was a
chance to preach to their choir, nothing they organized or thought
up on their own. Trumka and his comrade in the whitehouse, along
with the rest of the marxists set this carnival up. Moore just
played his usual hypocrite on excessive calories routine. Notice
that he called for a student boycott on a Friday and nothing
happened.
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:14PM
The best description of Moore was done by Stone and Parker in
Team America.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.11 @ 8:32AM
Folks,
my primary conclusion is that Obama and crew will surely screw it
up as they have screwed it up already.
The Obama crew have their own political agenda that has NOTHING
to do with defending the constitution or we Americans.
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:50PM
Obama has dissed his base, on DADT, on DOMA, and now on
militarism. The question is "why?". I think he doesn't care about
the electorate anymore (if he ever did) and is now overtly obeying
his only true master, George Soros.
Roy| 3.22.11 @ 8:24PM
Uh, no, Obama is pretty much in line with his base on DADT and
DOMA and they don't(except for a few true-blue whackos like Moore)
actually care about foreign policy.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 3.22.11 @ 8:35AM
Michael Moore should keep his big fat mouth shut (if that's at
all possible), you don't want to be disinvited to the next big
Democratic Party function, with all that free food, and plenty of
fools that are willing to finance your next Communist money losing
movie project. If he makes an enemy out of the chosen One, the
One's disciples might not go to Moore's next crappy movie, and then
how will he afford to buy more donuts? Be careful where you tread
fat-boy, it's alright to go after Corporations, or Republicans
(they're easy), but when you go after the One we've been waiting
for, then all bets are off.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:22PM
Oh, don't worry, they'll make nice well before the '12
convention. The thing about lefties is they have no principles to
compromise.
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 5:00AM
I beg to differ, I want the Left to scream with their biggest,
loudest voice. I want them to be heard, LOUDLY. For decades they've
been losing while trying to keep things under the radar.
Now, their agenda has been front and center and, as we can see,
they're losing their own blue dogs and independents.
Now that progressives/socialists has once again ripped off their
putrid masks, the majority of the American people are
revolting.
Let the nutters whore themselves on television, radio, and the
Internet. The more they expose themselves, the more the public
strips them of power, plain and simple.
The louder their volume, the further they're retroactively
aborting themselves. Rather ironic and poetic justice, if you ask
me.
Louis Jenkins| 3.22.11 @ 8:42AM
Michael Moore? Didn't take him seriously when he became famous,
and still don't. But isn't it wonderful? The satisfaction of having
their chosen one turn rouge is beyond description. Obama is tearing
up his constituents, and that is a bit of satisfaction. But, as
Stephanie states, there will be boots on the ground. Make no
mistake.
Louis Jenkins| 3.22.11 @ 8:44AM
Old Texican:
You are correct. The Constitution and We the People are the last
on Obama's list.
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 9:27AM
And he(the Comrade) still hasn't quite worked out that gun
ownership snag yet either.
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:52PM
Louis: you're probably right. The question is, "who is first on
his list?". Has Obama abandoned the appearance of international
socialism in order to follow its one world leader, George
Soros?
NeilBJ| 3.22.11 @ 12:32PM
Even though you meant "rogue", rouge, which is French for red,
works just as well.
Mike W| 3.22.11 @ 9:12AM
My liberal friends told me that if I voted for Bush, Gitmo would
never close, we would be in Iraq and Afghanistan another 4 years
and we might even start a third war in the Middle East. Well, I
voted for Bush and ......... .
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:24PM
Then they said the same about McCain. My prediction is that
we'll still be in Iraq and Afghanistan by '13.
tom B| 3.22.11 @ 2:43PM
Strange Mike ...back in the 60's they told me if voted for
Goldwater that we would be in a war in Southeast Asia in 6 months.
Well, I voted for Goldwater and they were right LOL.... and so are
you!!!
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 9:33AM
Don't forget Farrakan!!! This intensely insane, truly troubled
racist and rabid anti- semite, practically called in the Mother
Ship to whisk Obozo away.
Frankly, why doesn't Farrakan called down the Mother Ship and have
all the loony lefties whisked away to Uranius where they can live
happily ever after.
Obozo can take his Nobel Prize, and Moore can stock up on pork
rinds so he can maintain his svelt figure.
Uncle Walter| 3.22.11 @ 9:35AM
Well, if you've lost Michael Moore,,,
ncatty| 3.22.11 @ 11:14AM
Ha! Good one.
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 11:18AM
Might we now see Dennis the Menace and his cadre of lefty
loonies seek articles of impeachment against Obozo?
With our luck, the Ds would provide enough votes, but Boeher would
put a halt to the process as a distraction to his steely
determination to get the budget under control.
Yes, this scenerio is laughable on both counts. What a mess these
pols are creating for the American people.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:26PM
Really, and risk a Biden presidency? Obama may be evil and
stupid, but Biden is evil, stupid, and nuts.
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 1:21PM
Patrick, I forgot to mention in my little senerio of the absurd,
if articles of impeachment did make it to the Senate, (ha, ha)
McLame would be the deciding vote against impeachment, involking
his idiot friend, Arlen Specter's famous phrase. NOT PROVED.
So you see, the idiocy would continue unabated, and Joe Biteme
would still be tzar of Amtrack.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:27PM
If you've lost Michael Moore, you've lost half of your
gravitas....or was it gravity?
Mike W- You dumbass, if you had remembered McCain ran against
Obama, not Bush, your attempted humor might have succeeded. I am
ashamed.
Mike W| 3.22.11 @ 9:55AM
Gary G- I do my best to try and forget the 08 election. Thank
you for your kind words. Thats what I get for recycling old
Goldwater jokes.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:31PM
I remember taking a very hot shower and scrubbing myself with
lava soap after the polling place....
Old Soldier| 3.22.11 @ 10:46AM
If I could run my car and heat my house with irony, there would
be no energy crisis.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:35PM
I'm still wondering when I'm going to get some "change" for all
the dollars Obama took out of my paycheck.
Al Adab| 3.22.11 @ 2:14PM
Patrick:
Change is all you have left.
Old Soldier:
A wise man once said, "If hypocracy were oil this town (DC) would
be Saudi Arabia."
Al Adab| 3.22.11 @ 11:43AM
We should expect loud rumblings from the "No blood for oil"
crowd and other anti-war moralists soon. After all, this action,
like Iraq was UN sanctioned; this action , like Iraq was with our
allies; however this action, unlike Iraq was launched without
Congressional action. The high moral position of these folks
certainly applies now just as then. Otherwise we might believe that
the protests were actually just anti-Bush and anti-Republican
rather than anti-war. Or perhaps it is only Republican wars that
are immoral.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:36PM
Only Republicans can be truly evil. Democrats may, occasionally,
become naughty between election seasons. Fortunately, a Democrat
can do absolutely no wrong during election season.
Oldefarte| 3.22.11 @ 12:24PM
Gotta love this, the loons on the left are going beserk over
Barry's bombing his Muslim buddy in Libya. Pigs Moore, Strisand,
Pilosi, Kusinesh, and that recently defeated
Floridian/Alan-Democrat etc are all dancing on hot political coals
over Chosen's warmongering. Not doubt that why Nancy's faced
cracked while over in Italy and she had to be rushed to the
hospital. %%%%%HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, THE SKY IS
BLUE.....%%%%%%
Steve A| 3.22.11 @ 12:34PM
Where are the Leftist Human Shields? Seriously, we need some
comic relief.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:39PM
Sorry, they're still trying to get out of Madison traffic. I
guess what they say about "Diamond" Jim Doyle's roundabouts is
true: what comes around goes around and around.
Jay Pitsby| 3.22.11 @ 12:51PM
Hoist by their own petard! Arrrhhhh!
John II| 3.22.11 @ 1:04PM
Actually, the Professor is being very consistent: the Libyan
adventure (1) is at the behest and under the command of
internationalists, (2) contributes to the policy of spending
America into the ground (think what a single tomahawk missile
costs), and (3) further guts the military (how many of those
missiles will be available when we really need them?).
Oh--and I almost forgot: the adventure itself, like the
ebullient Michael Moore and other fans of the Professor, is
piss-ant and inconsequential.
John| 3.22.11 @ 1:11PM
I wander is Obama will now help the bahrainis, Saudis ,
Palestinians etc.. From the other Mad Dogs. There is rampant rabies
in the ME effecting all the Arab/ Isreali leaders. i must admit I
did enjoy moores 'Sicko'.Good man- a bit fat though. But thats not
a crime yet.
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:55PM
Dear John: Israeli, you ignorant, baby murder supporting
thug!
Steve A| 3.22.11 @ 2:17PM
John, I think rabies has "effected" your keyboard.
To quote Calypso Louie; "Who the hell do you think you are
brother"?
Calypso also sees danger in Wisconsin for brother Obozo as
well.
Gee, might this FINALLY be the moment that Calypso rounds up the
lefty loonies on the Mother Ship and serves up the Kool aid.
Fingers crossed!!!!
So, are Michael Moore & the rest of the butthurt leftists
raaaacccciiiiiiissssttttt now too?
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:58PM
Bingo Zilla. THAT'S IT! They're ALL racists!! Now we see it. But
of course, they'll say they hate the white half, which is okay.
Michael L. Hauschild| 3.22.11 @ 3:22PM
I'm beginning to worry, Oldfarte, I think we better send out a
missing troll alert. Brooks ain't been around and I fear he may
have been trapped in the crack of Michael Moore's ass.
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 3:53PM
And that may be one of the earths largest area of unexplored
territory.
Cpm| 3.22.11 @ 5:06PM
It's mighty large but I wouldn't be so sure it is
unexplored.
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:56PM
True. Liberal women have low standards when there's enough money
and fame attached.
Christopher Holland| 3.22.11 @ 6:58PM
Liberals got the Obama they voted for. They were warned that the
guy was a gutless and couldn't lie straight in bed, but they went
for him anyway. Let them eat cake.
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:59PM
Wow, hey, you have to wonder how things would be going if we'd
got Hilary.
Gates predicted: Ma will be the next richest
man in the world!
Bill Gates interviewed by reporters, asked: "Do you
think the world's richest
man who isnext!!" Bill
Gates once said: "Ma, " "Why?"the
reporter asked that Bill Gates said,
"because Ma, and the trades to determine who
will be the next richest man in the world http://www.watch07.com
knowsitallsup| 3.24.11 @ 8:06PM
I SO want to see Michael Moore explode!
mike| 3.25.11 @ 10:10PM
This is sooooo funny. I laugh every time I think about our war
monger president. Maybe an SNL sit where W says to Fred Armistead,
"I am your father."
The end of the empire has never been so absurd.
We put Gadhfi there some years ago after we educated him!!!!
Don't you think he could destroy Moore and his boy oops is that
racist. I mean I'm just sayin'
Robert Pinkerton| 3.22.11 @ 6:21AM
The United States needs another gratuitous war like a hole in the head. Where are the men to fight it? Where is the money to pay for it?
jothepro| 3.22.11 @ 7:26AM
It would be cheaper to put a hole in the head of Gadhafi !!!!!!!!
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 8:02AM
Sssssssshhhhhhhhhhh, we aren't targeting quadaffy!
john dubose| 3.22.11 @ 12:14PM
The problem with attacking Gadhafi personally:
We do not know whether his successor would please us more. ( probably not ).
It sets the precedent of one day a foreign country could decide OUR pres had to be killed.
Bad Plan
Paul in Colorado| 3.22.11 @ 2:05PM
Plenty of folks believe that precedent was set when the Kennedys tried to snuff Castro with their gangster connections and exploding cigars, and got as good as they gave.
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 3:29PM
Lucky for Monica ole Slick Willie didn't find that old Kennedy box of cigars lying around the Oval Office, eh?
With that girl's luck, she might of gotten the sexual thrill of a lifetime, literally.
On second thought, maybe that's why the girl still carries a torch for him. Oh Slick Willie, you ole dog you.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 8:17AM
You don't mention Alex Jones, a Rightwing counterpart to Mr. Fahrenheit 9-11. Jones says he transcends right and left, but he does not. He is a rightwing Christian in Texas. And Jones isn't just a little micro-cult guy such as Reverend Phelps.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 8:20AM
what I'm saying is: a crypto-Rightist such as Jones now has more influence than a Michael Moore.
God Is Truth| 3.22.11 @ 9:12AM
American Spectator on line's kook conspiracy theorist goes off the deep end yet again. American Spectator readers, please don't encourage him by responding. Alan, there is nothing remotely Christ-like in the rantings of Alex Jones. Stop using wackos like Alex Jones to paint Christianity with your broad brush. Please get to know God before placing Him & His followers amongst lunatics who crave attention. You are correct that Jones needs help. Other than that you have no clue about Christianity. Please get one. Get to know God's one & only Son & find out who He really is. Take care & God bless.
Albert| 3.22.11 @ 1:04PM
Really? I have never heard of Alex Jones and I do not know of any movies he has made (fake documentary or otherwise) nor of any connection at all with Hollywood. "More influence"??? Are you serious?
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 7:29PM
I would pay money to have Michael Moore sexually use me as a woman.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 7:44PM
"I would pay money to have Michael Moore sexually use me as a woman."
This is Clint again.
Oldefarte| 3.22.11 @ 12:15PM
Jones says in a 2005 article : "....I’ve known my friends for many years, but I couldn’t believe them. I got home and spent three hours on the Internet at the University of Texas’ historical website, at other universities’ websites in Mexico and Illinois, and on the website of the Hispanic Historical Society.What I learned chilled me. They didn’t just write up a plan, they acted upon it, killing at least 21 white males in South Texas in cold-blooded murder. We’re talking helter-skelter, Charlie Manson-type cold-blooded murder of random white ranchers and farmers: cornering people and hacking them up.I then found websites making excuses for it by saying, “well, whites did this to natives…” Yes they did. Select military units did, which should have been brought to justice for their actions. And I’ve spoken out against them, be it at Wounded Knee or in Waco.Think about it: full-grown adult men with their families wearing shirts calling for the killing of all white males above 16. Will there be a genetic test? Will Hispanics who are more than half white be killed? How far will this racial state go? This is the nightmare of tribalism. As this intensifies it’s only going to create friction on both sides. None of us are going to be safe, whether we’re from India, Mexico or Germany....."
Oldefarte| 3.22.11 @ 12:54PM
Hey, Alan, WHERE'S YOUR T-SHIRT??????
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:24PM
In the closet with my Howdy Doody cowboy hat, and the Dick Tracy decoder ring
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:25PM
... oh, and the Little Orphan Annie milk mug, too.
GavInTucson| 3.22.11 @ 11:56PM
I'll agree with Jones' statement that he transcends right and left.
It goes like this: you have the right, you have the center, and you have the left. And then you have Alex Jones and his followers, evidently hovering in outer space somewhere over Lake Michigan.
dennis b| 3.22.11 @ 9:36AM
We will fund this adventure by confiscating Michael Moore's personal wealth. It was just last week that Mr. Moore himself stated that personal wealth in this country does not belong to the individual. It is a national treasure that belongs to all of us, i.e the government.
Hey Mike, what did you net on your last whack-job flick alone?
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:00PM
Perhaps we can also get him liposuction'ed and render the resultant metric ton (just guessing) into soap, and then sell that to all the lefty coops in Madison. The profits generated can be used to pay for all the vandalism he and his caused.
While we're at it, perhaps we can weaponize his body odor as well... even liberals have complained about that.
Abu Nudnik| 3.22.11 @ 5:24PM
funny comment but, seriously, the precedent isn't worth the act, like the assassination idea above.
loulou| 3.22.11 @ 11:42AM
Furthermore, it's not OUR fight.
Let Allah sort it out.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:31PM
Michael Moore is so fat, he (along with Sally Struthers) is probably responsible for world hunger- by eating up most of the food reserves.
Dee See| 3.22.11 @ 6:56AM
"---As soon as the Middle East is 'brought in'
the US will itself be 'brought down' so swiftly it will make your head spin."
-ALAN WATT
(essential online coverage)
"The CFR runs the nation."
-HILARY CLINTON
(unapologetically just days ago)
HUAC meets NUREMBERG ---------is the only
answer.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG with all possible
speed.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG --------NOW
Peppermint Tea| 3.22.11 @ 8:39AM
What is HUAC?
Skippy| 3.22.11 @ 12:59PM
House UnAmerican Activities Committee.
A critical branch of our Federal Govt. that was dissolved in order to clear the way for the liberals and communists(redundancy alert)to hijack our nation.
cuban pete| 3.22.11 @ 3:02PM
My understanding is that the committee was the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities but the journalists of the day transformed it to HUAC because that configuration flowed more trippingly from the tongue.
Skippy| 3.22.11 @ 3:38PM
It always makes me smile when liberals refer to Senator Joseph McCarthy(blessings and peace be upon him)and his HUAC witch hunters.
House...Senator...Priceless!
cuban pete| 3.22.11 @ 4:33PM
Turned out Tailgunner Joe was right given what we learned from the Venona Papers.
The Army-McCarthy hearings came after HUAC.
Kenny| 3.22.11 @ 7:06AM
To hell with michael moore and the rest of his ilk.
The bombing of Libya is insane. I'm sick and tired of this nation building crap. And what will we get from it but another million-plus more parasites on the U.S. dole?
Mike W| 3.22.11 @ 8:31AM
Well stated. Short and to the point.
Alan Brooks| 3.22.11 @ 4:33PM
We could end world hunger if Michael Moore went on a diet.
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:07AM
Ultimately, what I think we'll get is another group of middle-easterners despising us because we "humiliated" them by helping them, reinforcing the idea that they're too weak to do it themselves.
I'm using their logic, not mine.
K962| 3.22.11 @ 7:13AM
Moore is a moron. But Obama is here and there and all over the place on this! As Michael Corleone said
"your not a wartime consuleri" (Insert President).
benny heavens| 3.22.11 @ 10:41AM
The president is following the rule that Michael’s father laid out, “ Never let anyone outside the family know what you’re thinking..”.
JP| 3.22.11 @ 7:28AM
The whole operation begs the question: What if the airstrikes are not enough? What then?
And the UN was supposed to be enforcing a "No-Fly-Zone". Bombing soft targets I suppose is now included in that definition. So, the UN is bombing radar facilities, air fields, ship yards, and bunkers. Who is supplying the rebels? Iran? What if the Colonel is successful in defeating the rebels? What will Field Marshall von Hillary suggest then? The UK has oil contracts (as does most of Europe) with Lybia. Will the UK and France just go back to business as usual? Or will they set-up an embargo? I remember how that went the last time around (remember the Oil for Food scandal?).
So, we have a President who went kicking and screaming to the Stratego board. His group of aging hippy hens who run State and the NSC are frothing with agression (perhaps there's some kind of pent of anger at Gadaffy's habit of hiring buxom slavic "nurses"); these same women frothed at the mere mention of Bush-Cheney-Haliburton 7 years ago now want war at any cost.
And wither the GOP? Lugar is content to issue "sober" and "mature" bromides from his Senate office(Lord knows he has had 30 years of practice. That's all he knows how to do); Boehner whines about being left out of the party (if I remember correctly, Obama has 90 days to "inform" Congress).
And the Left? Who really cares. In the end they will march lockstep behind thier Fuhrer. Michael Moore may throw some hissy fits. But he knows who ultimately pays for his Big Macs and Whoopers. Ditto for Ralph Nader.
This is all political theatre, and not very good theatre at that. Everyone is so self conscious of the parts that they must play, that one gets the feeling that they'd all rather be somewhere else. Even the President seems very irritated to have his vacation... I mean diplomatic trip interrupted by a mere war. Instead of "Let them eat cake!", it's," Let them (the Beltway MSM borg) have theatre!"
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:27AM
Yep, there are certainly a great many question marks and not many answers.
My initial gut response is to help the rebels overthrow a dictator, although I disagree with how the President went about it.
However, I'm not quite sure who we're supporting. Are they elements of AQ, Muslim Brotherhood, or some other radical element of Islam? My gut response doesn't have any real facts to back any of this up, because I don't have any real answers to those questions.
Could we be unleashing an even bigger monster? It's certainly possible.
And then I have to look at the broader picture. It seems a tad strange that all of these uprisings are occurring around the world at basically the same time. Why? Who's behind them?
What if we're seeing the beginning stages of a global economic collapse, right in front of our eyes, a type that would make 2008/2009 look like a warm up?
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:29AM
What if this collapse is deliberate? If so, why? And what's on the horizon if so. Why then?
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 7:42AM
If Harpo-Marxist and closet Capitalist Fat Bastard Moore's opinion ever reaches the point when it matters then we ARE in big trouble. As far as the leftists in his party squawking and squealing, they will get back in line when election season rolls around like good comrades. The Constitution? We did it matter anymore! If nobody defends it its just an antique piece of paper, a museum curiosity, nothing more. And lastly, Comrade Obama, the most feckless, indecisive weakling who ever served in the presidency makes Carter look like George S. Patton. The Comrade has the leadership qualities of Moe Howard, Neville Chamberlain, and Daffy Duck rolled into one. The preditors of the world must be licking their chops. A final note to the Comrade. Next time you need to make a speech, turn the teleprompter around so we can read it and go play golf instead and spare us your presence. Despite the putrid education system, there are still many of us who can still read!
cuban pete| 3.22.11 @ 9:22AM
Great points as always, Mike D. However, as to Chamberlain my understanding is that after it was shown he had been duped he became a strong supporter of the war effort. If that is true I'd cut him a little slack.
Abu Nudnik| 3.22.11 @ 5:26PM
Hey ! Don't insult Harpo Marx !
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:44AM
That's the wag, Mike. While his opinions don't necessarily mean anything to you and I, it apparently resonates with roughly half of this country's population.
We are in trouble!!!
Hillel| 3.22.11 @ 7:47AM
I hope it's on youtube,The daily show" interview with an "administration spokesman" on the bombing of Libya. Actually our policy is incoherent.I only hope Bismark was right when he said "G-d protects drunks,fools,small children and theUnited States of America."
Richard Baker| 3.22.11 @ 7:52AM
Sad that our military is put in harm's way because the Kenyan couldn't find an aspirin factory to bomb as Slick Willy did. Amazing that even the left crazies are mad at him. That's the way to start your re-election campaign.
Dave| 3.22.11 @ 8:05AM
Air power alone has never won a single war. Air power alone won't win this one either. You have to put boots on the ground in order to achieve victory.
Stephanie| 3.22.11 @ 8:30AM
Ahhh, good point Dave. obama told us "there will be no boots on the ground" which in obama speak means, "there will be boots on the ground" As he guts the military.
Ted| 3.22.11 @ 11:35AM
"Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life--but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you must do this on the ground, the way the Romans did, by putting your young men in the mud."
This Kind of War
by T. R. Fehrenbach
So we learn the lesson yet again that an air campaign is no substitute for a combined military campaign... But I also must ask, why does the U.S. need to keep Libya for civilization? What U.S. interests are at stake in Libya?
There are French, British, and general European interests at stake there. Oil and Gas. But of course our enlightened Euro-brethren have been free riders on the U.S. and the U.S. military since 1945 and told us how much better they were because they spent all their money on social programs.
So now that their national interests are at stake, they have no military with which to protect those interests. And gin up a con job turn us into their military contractors.
Abu Nudnik| 3.22.11 @ 5:26PM
Yes. "No ground troops" = "Read my lips: no new taxes." It's absurd and a lie.
Ted| 3.23.11 @ 2:36PM
You are on the money. Today there is a story out that U.S. Marines are being deployed to Libya.
You can read it here: http://www.wcti12.com/news/27257042/detail.html#
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:12PM
Fehrenbach's book is one of the best US War histories ever written---he led troops in that war. And it's on Kindle.
Michael L. Hauschild| 3.22.11 @ 11:55AM
You are correct Dave, Air Power really only "ended" one war, but WWII may have been different if one of those B-25's left the Hornut with four or five megatons.
Wars are still won by ordinance, however. There are two facets of ordinance that must be balanced in the equation of “killing people and breaking their stuff.” The first is the delivery system; Contrary to popular liberal conception soldiers or “boots on the ground” are usually the best mechanism. They “deliver” very inexpensive “ordinance” (bullets) for exactly the same base stipend no matter where they are standing. I am not sure, but I will bet for less. When deployed combat pay or overseas pay probably does not match the housing allotment many receive her in the USA. I have been out of the ranks for four decades but the training I received back then palls to what our magnificent soldiers receive today, even so, after all that time, I still (for one day out of the month) can knock your helmet off at 600 yards.
The second aspect of ordinance is a simple ratio of mass versus energy. A 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO or 30-06 Gov (my personal favorite) round weighs very little and works really, really, really well. (Carlos you’re my hero.) Small arms, Tomahawks, 155’s, 105’s, or HE from a chin gun are all within the same magnitude no matter whether the explosive “sends” or is “terminal.”
Even though the Middle East provides a great “playing field” for target acquisition intelligence (they rat each other out probably as much as they hate us), there are always those “over the horizon” or IED issues. Also the concept of “surprise” ironically seemed to end with the great communicator.
We need to advance, we need to retreat, and we need to demark. The advance is in magnitude, air/fuel would be a nice warm-up. Collateral damage is actually minimized when no collateral remains. The retreat is temporal; ”Return with us now to those thrilling days of Actor Guild Presidents when everyone kept their pie hole shut.” The demarcation is what was exhibited by RR, “When my had comes off the Inauguration Bible…….., by Harry and that second bomb, and the Bush II administration with “Shock and Awe.” If you doubt this, objectively examine Gadaffi’s behavior. What does he respect more, cowboy boots or Air Jordan’s, ponder this while the Commander in Chief is shooting hoops in Rio.
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 4:49AM
Very true, Dave, and very axiomatic.
Stephanie| 3.22.11 @ 8:28AM
I think I dispise this fat ugly man more than what obama and his ilk are doing to our country.
Peppermint Tea| 3.22.11 @ 8:47AM
The fat ugly man has been at the forefront of the Demoncrats talking points for the last 5 years. He is pretty much setting their agenda. Remember his "capitalism bad" "Bush lied" and "Cuba is the model for heathcare." He determines their agenda. It's awkward that BHO got ahead of him--he should have waited for Moore's take on Gadahfi before sending the tomahawks.
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 9:18AM
Don't pay any attention to Fat Bastard. He's been demoted to useful idiot 2nd class with corn dog clusters.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:20PM
Says you. You don't have tens of thousands of imported union goons, screaming hyper-lefty teachers, and stoned college Democrats swarming your capital. They loved him there like they loved him in his first propaganda piece against GM (that we now own).
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 3:51PM
That crowd of leftist lunatics that invaded madison would have cheered Porky Pig if he went up there and stuttered what they wanted to hear.
Fat Bastard was just media whoring like the rest of the camera chasing leftist parade of relics from protests gone past. It was a chance to preach to their choir, nothing they organized or thought up on their own. Trumka and his comrade in the whitehouse, along with the rest of the marxists set this carnival up. Moore just played his usual hypocrite on excessive calories routine. Notice that he called for a student boycott on a Friday and nothing happened.
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:14PM
The best description of Moore was done by Stone and Parker in Team America.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.11 @ 8:32AM
Folks,
my primary conclusion is that Obama and crew will surely screw it up as they have screwed it up already.
The Obama crew have their own political agenda that has NOTHING to do with defending the constitution or we Americans.
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:50PM
Obama has dissed his base, on DADT, on DOMA, and now on militarism. The question is "why?". I think he doesn't care about the electorate anymore (if he ever did) and is now overtly obeying his only true master, George Soros.
Roy| 3.22.11 @ 8:24PM
Uh, no, Obama is pretty much in line with his base on DADT and DOMA and they don't(except for a few true-blue whackos like Moore) actually care about foreign policy.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 3.22.11 @ 8:35AM
Michael Moore should keep his big fat mouth shut (if that's at all possible), you don't want to be disinvited to the next big Democratic Party function, with all that free food, and plenty of fools that are willing to finance your next Communist money losing movie project. If he makes an enemy out of the chosen One, the One's disciples might not go to Moore's next crappy movie, and then how will he afford to buy more donuts? Be careful where you tread fat-boy, it's alright to go after Corporations, or Republicans (they're easy), but when you go after the One we've been waiting for, then all bets are off.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:22PM
Oh, don't worry, they'll make nice well before the '12 convention. The thing about lefties is they have no principles to compromise.
GavInTucson| 3.24.11 @ 5:00AM
I beg to differ, I want the Left to scream with their biggest, loudest voice. I want them to be heard, LOUDLY. For decades they've been losing while trying to keep things under the radar.
Now, their agenda has been front and center and, as we can see, they're losing their own blue dogs and independents.
Now that progressives/socialists has once again ripped off their putrid masks, the majority of the American people are revolting.
Let the nutters whore themselves on television, radio, and the Internet. The more they expose themselves, the more the public strips them of power, plain and simple.
The louder their volume, the further they're retroactively aborting themselves. Rather ironic and poetic justice, if you ask me.
Louis Jenkins| 3.22.11 @ 8:42AM
Michael Moore? Didn't take him seriously when he became famous, and still don't. But isn't it wonderful? The satisfaction of having their chosen one turn rouge is beyond description. Obama is tearing up his constituents, and that is a bit of satisfaction. But, as Stephanie states, there will be boots on the ground. Make no mistake.
Louis Jenkins| 3.22.11 @ 8:44AM
Old Texican:
You are correct. The Constitution and We the People are the last on Obama's list.
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 9:27AM
And he(the Comrade) still hasn't quite worked out that gun ownership snag yet either.
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:52PM
Louis: you're probably right. The question is, "who is first on his list?". Has Obama abandoned the appearance of international socialism in order to follow its one world leader, George Soros?
NeilBJ| 3.22.11 @ 12:32PM
Even though you meant "rogue", rouge, which is French for red, works just as well.
Mike W| 3.22.11 @ 9:12AM
My liberal friends told me that if I voted for Bush, Gitmo would never close, we would be in Iraq and Afghanistan another 4 years and we might even start a third war in the Middle East. Well, I voted for Bush and ......... .
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:24PM
Then they said the same about McCain. My prediction is that we'll still be in Iraq and Afghanistan by '13.
tom B| 3.22.11 @ 2:43PM
Strange Mike ...back in the 60's they told me if voted for Goldwater that we would be in a war in Southeast Asia in 6 months. Well, I voted for Goldwater and they were right LOL.... and so are you!!!
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 9:33AM
Don't forget Farrakan!!! This intensely insane, truly troubled racist and rabid anti- semite, practically called in the Mother Ship to whisk Obozo away.
Frankly, why doesn't Farrakan called down the Mother Ship and have all the loony lefties whisked away to Uranius where they can live happily ever after.
Obozo can take his Nobel Prize, and Moore can stock up on pork rinds so he can maintain his svelt figure.
Uncle Walter| 3.22.11 @ 9:35AM
Well, if you've lost Michael Moore,,,
ncatty| 3.22.11 @ 11:14AM
Ha! Good one.
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 11:18AM
Might we now see Dennis the Menace and his cadre of lefty loonies seek articles of impeachment against Obozo?
With our luck, the Ds would provide enough votes, but Boeher would put a halt to the process as a distraction to his steely determination to get the budget under control.
Yes, this scenerio is laughable on both counts. What a mess these pols are creating for the American people.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:26PM
Really, and risk a Biden presidency? Obama may be evil and stupid, but Biden is evil, stupid, and nuts.
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 1:21PM
Patrick, I forgot to mention in my little senerio of the absurd, if articles of impeachment did make it to the Senate, (ha, ha) McLame would be the deciding vote against impeachment, involking his idiot friend, Arlen Specter's famous phrase. NOT PROVED.
So you see, the idiocy would continue unabated, and Joe Biteme would still be tzar of Amtrack.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:27PM
If you've lost Michael Moore, you've lost half of your gravitas....or was it gravity?
Sam Levi| 3.22.11 @ 12:43PM
Did you mean gravy?
Gary G| 3.22.11 @ 9:48AM
Mike W- You dumbass, if you had remembered McCain ran against Obama, not Bush, your attempted humor might have succeeded. I am ashamed.
Mike W| 3.22.11 @ 9:55AM
Gary G- I do my best to try and forget the 08 election. Thank you for your kind words. Thats what I get for recycling old Goldwater jokes.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:31PM
I remember taking a very hot shower and scrubbing myself with lava soap after the polling place....
Old Soldier| 3.22.11 @ 10:46AM
If I could run my car and heat my house with irony, there would be no energy crisis.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:35PM
I'm still wondering when I'm going to get some "change" for all the dollars Obama took out of my paycheck.
Al Adab| 3.22.11 @ 2:14PM
Patrick:
Change is all you have left.
Old Soldier:
A wise man once said, "If hypocracy were oil this town (DC) would be Saudi Arabia."
Al Adab| 3.22.11 @ 11:43AM
We should expect loud rumblings from the "No blood for oil" crowd and other anti-war moralists soon. After all, this action, like Iraq was UN sanctioned; this action , like Iraq was with our allies; however this action, unlike Iraq was launched without Congressional action. The high moral position of these folks certainly applies now just as then. Otherwise we might believe that the protests were actually just anti-Bush and anti-Republican rather than anti-war. Or perhaps it is only Republican wars that are immoral.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:36PM
Only Republicans can be truly evil. Democrats may, occasionally, become naughty between election seasons. Fortunately, a Democrat can do absolutely no wrong during election season.
Oldefarte| 3.22.11 @ 12:24PM
Gotta love this, the loons on the left are going beserk over Barry's bombing his Muslim buddy in Libya. Pigs Moore, Strisand, Pilosi, Kusinesh, and that recently defeated Floridian/Alan-Democrat etc are all dancing on hot political coals over Chosen's warmongering. Not doubt that why Nancy's faced cracked while over in Italy and she had to be rushed to the hospital. %%%%%HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, THE SKY IS BLUE.....%%%%%%
Steve A| 3.22.11 @ 12:34PM
Where are the Leftist Human Shields? Seriously, we need some comic relief.
Patrick| 3.22.11 @ 12:39PM
Sorry, they're still trying to get out of Madison traffic. I guess what they say about "Diamond" Jim Doyle's roundabouts is true: what comes around goes around and around.
Jay Pitsby| 3.22.11 @ 12:51PM
Hoist by their own petard! Arrrhhhh!
John II| 3.22.11 @ 1:04PM
Actually, the Professor is being very consistent: the Libyan adventure (1) is at the behest and under the command of internationalists, (2) contributes to the policy of spending America into the ground (think what a single tomahawk missile costs), and (3) further guts the military (how many of those missiles will be available when we really need them?).
Oh--and I almost forgot: the adventure itself, like the ebullient Michael Moore and other fans of the Professor, is piss-ant and inconsequential.
John| 3.22.11 @ 1:11PM
I wander is Obama will now help the bahrainis, Saudis , Palestinians etc.. From the other Mad Dogs. There is rampant rabies in the ME effecting all the Arab/ Isreali leaders. i must admit I did enjoy moores 'Sicko'.Good man- a bit fat though. But thats not a crime yet.
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:55PM
Dear John: Israeli, you ignorant, baby murder supporting thug!
Steve A| 3.22.11 @ 2:17PM
John, I think rabies has "effected" your keyboard.
Harrison| 3.22.11 @ 2:26PM
What's worse... Lefties angry or Gadhafi?
Anthony| 3.22.11 @ 2:38PM
To quote Calypso Louie; "Who the hell do you think you are brother"?
Calypso also sees danger in Wisconsin for brother Obozo as well.
Gee, might this FINALLY be the moment that Calypso rounds up the lefty loonies on the Mother Ship and serves up the Kool aid.
Fingers crossed!!!!
Zilla| 3.22.11 @ 2:54PM
So, are Michael Moore & the rest of the butthurt leftists raaaacccciiiiiiissssttttt now too?
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:58PM
Bingo Zilla. THAT'S IT! They're ALL racists!! Now we see it. But of course, they'll say they hate the white half, which is okay.
Michael L. Hauschild| 3.22.11 @ 3:22PM
I'm beginning to worry, Oldfarte, I think we better send out a missing troll alert. Brooks ain't been around and I fear he may have been trapped in the crack of Michael Moore's ass.
Mike D.| 3.22.11 @ 3:53PM
And that may be one of the earths largest area of unexplored territory.
Cpm| 3.22.11 @ 5:06PM
It's mighty large but I wouldn't be so sure it is unexplored.
Occam's Tool| 3.22.11 @ 6:56PM
True. Liberal women have low standards when there's enough money and fame attached.
Christopher Holland| 3.22.11 @ 6:58PM
Liberals got the Obama they voted for. They were warned that the guy was a gutless and couldn't lie straight in bed, but they went for him anyway. Let them eat cake.
Frisbee| 3.22.11 @ 7:59PM
Wow, hey, you have to wonder how things would be going if we'd got Hilary.
thebardofmurdock| 3.22.11 @ 10:14PM
The Goose and the Gander
What’s good for the goose,
Should likewise prevail –
Barring some excuse –
For the goose’s male.
The peaceniks all decried
The Iraqi war zone,
With protests worldwide
In loud, lusty tone.
Where are you, Code Pink?
Come out, Dixie Chicks!
Don’t from protest shrink;
Wade into the mix!
Can but Michael Moore
A rebel voice find?
Is not this new war
With Bush’s affined?
It seems goose and gander
Are diff’rent kinds of bird.
The first endured slander,
The second: not a word!
thebardofmurdock.blogspot.com
Dee See| 3.22.11 @ 11:23PM
---IS IT TRUE? Moore's in reality a shareholder
in Haliburton?
SEE ALAN WATT online
Roger Westcott| 3.23.11 @ 7:32AM
The main issue is that the attack on Libya was unconstitutional.
watches| 3.23.11 @ 8:58AM
Gates predicted: Ma will be the next richest man in the world!
Bill Gates interviewed by reporters, asked: "Do you think the world's richest man who isnext!!" Bill Gates once said: "Ma, " "Why?"the reporter asked that Bill Gates said, "because Ma, and the trades to determine who will be the next richest man in the world
http://www.watch07.com
knowsitallsup| 3.24.11 @ 8:06PM
I SO want to see Michael Moore explode!
mike| 3.25.11 @ 10:10PM
This is sooooo funny. I laugh every time I think about our war monger president. Maybe an SNL sit where W says to Fred Armistead, "I am your father."
The end of the empire has never been so absurd.
Not perfect| 3.26.11 @ 5:22PM
We put Gadhfi there some years ago after we educated him!!!! Don't you think he could destroy Moore and his boy oops is that racist. I mean I'm just sayin'
Creative Recreation| 8.10.11 @ 11:36PM
is good