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Abortion Funding Ban Defeated in Senate

Will Senator Nelson bolt on health care?

The U.S. Senate yesterday defeated a ban on federal funding of abortion, putting at least one Democratic vote for the Democrats’ own health care plan in play, that of Senator Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska).

Nelson, along with Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), sponsored the amendment, which sought to enshrine in law the functional equivalent of the Hyde Amendment into the proposed health care legislation being pushed by the White House and congressional Democrats.

The vote, 54-45 against the Nelson-Hatch Amendment, may also raise questions about the vote of Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey, Jr., one of the other, very few pro-life Democrats in the upper chamber.

It is tempting to take a benign view of the matter and see this development as a possible derailment of the health care plan, which has evolved into a monstrosity of taxation, spending, and federal bloat. But that would be a mistake, given the moral and social disaster embodied in any sanction of federal funding of the destruction of unborn children at taxpayer expense. Like it or not, there is a real possibility that the health care legislation pushed by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada) may still become law given that this is a do-or-die issue for the very liberal majorities in both houses.

Nevertheless, if Reid loses Nelson’s vote, and Senator Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) bolts over a public option, which he has sworn to do, this legislation could still go down in flames.

There is a large contingent of pro-life, Blue Dog and simply scared Democrats in the House of Representatives, which actually passed the Stupak amendment, its version of Nelson-Hatch, who are beginning to think hard about their re-election chances if all the hard work on the life issue comes to naught. With more people telling Gallup that they are pro-life than pro-choice these days, they may wonder why their congressman or woman is still hanging around with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Indeed, Harry Reid is not looking to strong at home either.

topics:
Health Care, Abortion, Ben Nelson

About the Author

G. Tracy Mehan, III served at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in the administrations of both Presidents Bush. He is a consultant in Arlington, Virginia, and an adjunct professor at George Mason University School of Law.

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Rocco| 12.9.09 @ 8:02AM

Unfortunately, I believe Nelson will fold. HE' A DEMOCRAT, for heaven's sake. They will all fall in line, even Casey, and pass this unconstitutional travesty of a bill. These guys all make a charade of being against something, and the leadership may even go along for political reasons, so the hold out will look good and principled to his constituents. I am not fooled for a minute. When push comes to shove, Gleichschaltung will rule the day, and they will all vote for it, along with the usual RINO suspects to give it a figleaf of bipartisanship. THAT is why we need to thoroughly cleanse this Augean stable known as the US Congress. Hose out all the shit and disinfect the place.

Becky| 12.9.09 @ 9:12AM

I believe you are correct in identifying where Nelson and Casey place the abortion issue, and it is behind being identified as Democrats. Nat Henthoff wrote that Casey's ability to find common ground with Obama was astounding considering Casey's father's legacy of pro life advocation. How does a pro lifer find common ground with one of the strongest promoter and defender of abortion?

Democratic pro lifer Stupak will also vote for the bill if his amendment is dropped in the final bill. The unborn are the cracked eggs that sometimes you have to do to make an omlet, you know. Stupak is my representative and he sent me a long rambling form email response to my backing him on the abortion issue, but debating that we need national health care. He represents a rather poor, highly unemployed area of Michigan, large geographically, and I feel as far away ideologically as I do geographically. He's a upper and I am in the mitten.

Ret. Marine| 12.9.09 @ 8:41AM

I don't think for one minute this legislation is even Contitutional, which begs the question of why do they think they can get away with it with the possibility of it being overturned by the Supreme Court. Who cares, other than the residents of said States which these traitors come from, what these Senators say or do? The bottom line will be the judgement of the Supreme Court.
I agree with you Rocco, this house of ours is in need of a thourogh cleansing. Those of us who took the Oath to defend this Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic are getting rather jumpy these days and it is not because we are below what needs to be done to these traitors either. The day is coming for retribution. There is a simple REASON why the gun and ammo sales are off the charts since this pretender-n-theif came on the scene. My bet is with the Patriots not the bystanders of destruction of this Republic.

Rocco| 12.9.09 @ 10:25AM

Quite right, Ret. Marine. However, I am not too confident in our Supreme Court's ability to overturn unconstitutional legislation, given their performance, re: McCain/Feingold and the Kelo case. The former was an affront to the 1st Amendment, and the latter an affront to the takings clause of the 5th Amendment. Both should have been ruled unconstitutional but weren't. Congress isn't the only Augean stable in need of disinfecting.

crookedwren| 12.9.09 @ 1:35PM

And someone has to bring the case to court. I woke up at 4 am this morning with these things (along with the EPA ruling, Copenhagen, the KSM mock-trials -- mocking the US, of course, -- the court martial of the Navy Seals, the horrifying comments by military officers following the jihadist terrorist attack at Fort Hood, etc.) on my mined. I wondered if I'd have "standing" in a case questioning the Constitutionality of this (one of among many) "Progressive" horror.

Probably not, even though, as a boomer, I stand to lose. My children and grands stand to lose even more than I will.

But I don't trust most of the Supreme Court to do the right thing, two exceptions being Justices Thomas and Scalia.

And will somebody reassure me that the Progressives haven't infiltrated our military???

James Pawlak | 12.9.09 @ 9:20AM

Senators voting for public funding of abortion should reflect on the following: The execution of George (The Baby Killer) Tiller; And, the term "Retroactive Abortion".

St. Thor| 12.9.09 @ 9:31AM

Nelson is the bought and paid for toady of Warren Buffet, the biggest insider trader of them all, whose Berkshire Hathaway corporate cover owns General Re insurance. Buffet won't let his toad jump so far because the Senate plan, at the demand of toady Nelson, echo chamber of Warren Buffet, keeps the anti-trust exemption for the anti-consumer companies, like General Re, in the insurance business.

KyMouse| 12.9.09 @ 9:39AM

So it looks as if taxpayer-funded abortions on American soil will become a reality, on the heels of taxpayer-funded abortions overseas. And we now have taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research using many new stem cell lines, which involves removing the stem cells from human embryos who are about a week old — killing them in the process. Some researchers advocate cloning in order to provide a limitless supply of embryos.

All of this reminds me of the way McDonald’s signs used to say “30 million served” etc. Now their signs simply say “billions and billions served.” Pro-lifers have recently estimated the number of aborted babies at about 51 million (since 1973), but we might as well just start saying “billions and billions killed.”

We’ll never know how many of these tiny human beings are killed each year through abortion and experimentation, but God knows. I won’t be surprised if He holds America accountable for “the least of these,” who will die in increasing numbers because we elected Obama.

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Northern Rebel| 12.9.09 @ 1:18PM

DO NOT BE FOOLED!

No demorat will vote against this bill. They all want to be re-elected, and that is all a politician cares about. Pelosi is the vehicle to re-election, not the people they purport to represent, and they know this.

It does not matter whether they attach abortion to this mess, NO DEMORAT WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL!

(Jeez, I seem to be missing a couple of consanants!)

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Katrin| 12.9.09 @ 2:21PM

For a country that still employs the death penalty your views surrounding abortion are pretty rich. Nevermind about your "little human beings", why not consider the quality of life for American women. Face it, you've got enough people growing in poverty and poor health in you country, why not focus on improving life for those already alive rather than obsessing over fetal imaginary people. Surely your all powerful god will take care of them.

ncatty| 12.9.09 @ 2:46PM

You are correct. The lives of the death row convicts are morally equivalent to the truly innocent and powerless unborn, of which you were once one.

Katrin| 12.9.09 @ 3:04PM

Death row penalties assumes that those who kill do not deserve to live. If you could predict the murderous tendencies of an unborn child, then would abortion be OK in that case? I just think pro-life rhetoric robs women of their autonomy to choose and although I don't think within a religious framework, I consider that sinful. My mother planned to have me, she had a choice from the very beginning. Many women do not. Thanks to poor access to contraception and medieval sex education, many women accidentally fall pregnant and reproduce children likely to fall victim to the same cycle.

ncatty| 12.9.09 @ 3:38PM

Women can choose abortion. But I don't want to be forced to pay for their choice. This is the point if the article and, presumably, these comments.

Katrin| 12.9.09 @ 3:56PM

But that's the thing, women aren't given access to it. 87 percent of U.S. counties have no abortion provider.

It's people of your views that make it progressively harder and harder for a woman to choose. It's not just this bill, pro-life campaigners put pressure on private health insurance too. Not to mentioned intimidation tactics, propaganda and falsified scientific misinformation.

ncatty| 12.9.09 @ 4:25PM

I am going to have to conclude that people of "my views" and people of "your views" simply disagree on who can be forced to pay for an abortion.

crookedwren| 12.9.09 @ 5:35PM

Women don't have access to abortions in the US? Who are you kidding? Where do you live? Not in the US.

High school girls have access to abortions -- without their parents knowing it!

Katrin| 12.9.09 @ 5:42PM

Check the stats.

The Deuce| 12.10.09 @ 12:39PM

So what if women in some places aren't *given* access to abortion? Since when do women have a God-given right to have somebody *else* there to provide and fund *their* abortions without the horrible inconvenience of crossing county lines?

By that logic, my right to free speech is being violated because no major newspaper would give me a free front-page oped if I just asked them. And speech, unlike abortion, is an actual right.

Katrin| 12.10.09 @ 1:48PM

To some women, it's not an inconvenience - it's sheer impossibility. Do you really believe your analogy works? Child for life versus a one-off front page? A pregnancy that a woman may not be ready for, might impair her economically, socially isolate her, physically and psychologically scar her (not to mention the unwanted child).

But then who cares about women's health? Who cares about anyone's health and access to care if they're not within the top 20th percentile. I'm not talking about "god-given" rights I'm talking about the limitations straining women's freedom of choice.

KyMouse| 12.10.09 @ 3:51PM

Wow, it's easy to support abortion when you aren't the one being killed, isn't it, Katrin?

Why do poor babies have less right to life than ones being born to wealthier families? Are you at all grateful that your mother didn't abort you; and if you are grateful, can't you extend any compassion to babies who have no one to speak up for them?

If a baby is "unwanted" by his/her mother, isn't adoption into a loving, adoptive family what he/she deserves -- is there any baby who doesn't deserve that chance?

Are you aware that, according to the Elliot Institute and police sources, homicide is one of the leading causes (and sometimes THE leading cause) of death for pregnant mothers -- and that about six out of 10 pregnant mothers report that the abortion was not their decision, but was forced on them by the baby's father, their own parents, or other people? Pressure on mothers to kill their babies often leads to their own murders -- choosing to give their babies life is the "choice" they aren't allowed to make.

"Safe, legal" abortion also leads to injury and death for many pregnant mothers. Please do a Google search of Dr. Abu Hayat (the New York Post called him "The Butcher of Avenue A" in 1991) and Dr. John Biskind, who are only two of the many legal abortionists who have been prosecuted for the deaths of their patients. To read about two pregnant mothers who were killed by abortionists, Google "Synthia Dennard" and "Lou Anne Herron."

How many babies will have to be aborted before you say "stop"? We're already at more than 51 million in this country. Will 100 million be too many for you?

Pregnant mothers deserve support, and there are thousands of pregnancy-resource centers in America who help them. Why not visit one near you, and maybe volunteer to help them, if you care about women so much?

Every mother deserves better than abortion, and every child deserves a chance. Can you really disagree with that?

Katrin| 12.10.09 @ 6:51PM

Very easy card to play, the whole, what if your mother aborted you? As I've already commented, my mother chose to have me and was also within a stable relationship. If she hadn't of had me, you'd have one less person to spout your conservative bullshit to and I wouldn't care less because I wouldn't exist.

I never said wealthier families deserve children more. Unfortunately women are weighed down with the responsibility of child-rearing far greater than men in society. Child care-giving is not wage work and therefore most women are not considered on equal footing as men. Women often don't receive the support they need in caring for a child and find problems acquiring flexible work to accommodate hours necessary to mothers. This leaves many women not equipped socially or financially to be pregnant dependent on the state or the child's father. For women who are not ready to do this, I believe they should have the choice to abort their child. These are very deeply embedded problems which need to be addressed. Ideal world situation, if these problems didn't exist, there would be no need for abortion. This is not an ideal world & abortion needs to be legal and accessible & there are still people like you trying to impose yourselves on the choices of women.

Adoption is an option but involves another level of consideration that doesn't qualify it as a substitute.In some cases women are not ready to go through the physical strain of a pregnancy, the emotional uncertainty of the adoption process. For many people a fetus and a baby are not the same thing, I'm guessing you do not feel the same.

Yes, the Elliot Institute looks very neutral in such assertions. Abortions like many other medical procedures can have their complications and this is something every women would have to think through considerably. Would it be better if abortions were illegal and women were once again forced to do far greater damage to themselves?

Your examples are extreme & exemplify bad practice that is not exclusive to abortion doctors. The statistics for abortion are not as drastic as you project them, I suggest for some impartial, trustworthy evidence, you look elsewhere than the Elliot Institute and prolife websites - well known for scientific distortion and misinformation of the massses.

I don't care if it reaches 100million. Why do you put a fetus' rights above those of a woman. Up to the period that abortion is legal, a fetus cannot live independently & up until it can, people should care for the rights of the mother first. Respect the right to her body and privacy and butt out of abortions.

Abortion is not murder and you should not make women feel guilty for choosing it. If you're a religious zealot and believe it to be a sin then think about the thousands of babies god has killed. What about all those first born babies in Egypt?!! He killed ALL those babies (& the cattles!!!) I bet he's very proud that we all got the same idea.

The Deuce| 12.14.09 @ 10:39AM

Yes, you logically incompetent boob, the analogy works. The point is, having a "right" to something doesn't imply a right to have someone else provide you the means to do it at their expense.

Also, it isn't a "sheer impossibility" anywhere in this country. Abortion is legal in every state. But even if it were an impossibility, so what? Why is it my job to pay to kill someone else's baby?

Even you now admit that there is no right to an abortion, that it's just about "limitations on women's freedom of choice." Well, whoopee-doo. There's lots of choices I'd like to make (like spending my money on a personal helicopter) that I can't. I don't expect anybody else to pay money to remove limits on my freedom of choice, and my choices don't even get anybody killed.

magua| 12.9.09 @ 4:38PM

Katrin,
Everyone has a belief system. I'll take a shot that yours is Secular-Humanism. Furthermore, Secular-Humanism meets all the requirements to be regarded as a "religion". You say that you "don't think within a religious framework", yet immediately identify what you consider "sin". How duplicitous. You make your moral judgements and disclaim any "religion". You are at the very least intellectually dishonest. Katrin, if there is a moral law, there must be a "moral law -giver". You are correct that you have "free will" and thus "choice". Logically, the question follows. Is there any limits to your behavior? Did your mother ever limit your "choices" ? You are ignorant of the only "True and Living God" , and you make moral judgements against Him and His people. Your god is YOU. That's a very small god indeed. One more thing. Why is it people of your ilk invest more time planning their vacation destination than their eternal destination?

Katrin| 12.9.09 @ 5:11PM

I'm not willing to get into a debate on the nature of religion but one can consider morality without being religious. I don't believe in a god, nor consider myself one.

I believe as people we can figure out limits to our behaviour, like adults, without having to indulge in a big father in the sky patriarchal system. Can we not live efficaciously and logically without having to be threatened by hellfire and brimstone. I do not think women should be frightened to have an abortion, nor be denied access to it if they do not feel adequate for motherhood.

Your last comment suggests a shallowness of mind, but is true in some ways. People of "my view" probably spend more time planning their actual life rather than the afterlife as they know it's the only thing they're guaranteed.

magua| 12.9.09 @ 6:18PM

Katrin,

Which adults? How about adults like Hitler, Stalin, Moa, or Castro with their millions of victims. Who gets to make the rules Katrin? I hope it's not anyone less than a Holy God. Otherwise we fall under the weight of tyranny at the hand of fallible men (and women). I'm sorry you don't relate well to men. As a man, am I less than human and unworthy of any dignity in your worldview. The moment you start down that road you're no different than the tyrants listed earlier. Lastly, it's not about "fire and brimstone", it's about alienation. Are you alienated in any of your relationships Katrin? How are you doing on that front? Is there any hope for restoration?

p.s. You're not guaranteed of anything. Not even your next breath.

Anthony | 12.9.09 @ 6:54PM

Here here!
Women who choose to have abortions are equivalent to mass murderers!
You liberal feminists should watch your back. My empathy for societies that stone women to death is growing by the day. Your inadequacies are why you have been cursed with the pain of childbirth.

Peter | 12.9.09 @ 7:11PM

Katrin.
People in "your view", and your unborn children, will know only a world of pain when the rapture happens.
The idea of using your consciousness on matters of this world is delusional. I only hope that you will realize this before the imminent war with Islam

Hank| 12.9.09 @ 7:39PM

Christian fags...

why do you like the idea of a big man in the sky waiting for you to slip up so he can fuck you in the ass forever?

myrtle108| 12.9.09 @ 8:16PM

If god "f****ed" you in the ass, it would be the best pounding you can imagine

Ovacations Man | 3.19.10 @ 7:11PM

Christian, your question not belong here, not cultured?
Can something more cultured?

Richard Sacks | 12.9.09 @ 7:52PM

As a professor of neuropsychology, I'm will have to corroborate Hank's rather crudely put assertion. My team at the University of Long Island have found belief in a patriarchal like deity to be correlated with suppressed homosexual urges towards male authority figures in early development. Other studies (Collins et al 2001, Finn et al 2003, and Xin-Jho 2009) have direct causal relationships using fMRI neuroimaging. The Collins team used a sample of 2500 north american Christian and found that pathological sexual repression towards a male authority figure was at the route of their political behaviour. I light of these findings, i think we all need to take a step back, and look at ourselves before we tell other people how to make their decisions.

How fascinating| 12.10.09 @ 4:15PM

How fascinating, Professor Sacks! Would you please give us the Web site on which we can read more of your intriguing findings? I did a Google search of "Richard Sacks University of Long Island" and "Richard Sacks neuropsychology," but didn't find anything. Oliver Sacks, yes, but not Richard Sacks. Hmmm...perhaps I spelled something incorrectly? Please give the site address. Thanks!

Richard Sacks | 12.10.09 @ 5:15PM

The papers I am referring to can be found through the journals in which they were published. These are online, however you will be required to pay for access, which is around $40.00.
They may be on google scholar. if not here are the referances:
Collins 2001. Journal of neuropsychology. (41) 859-870
The Xin-Jho paper has not yet been published, so you wont find that.
Finn 2003, Clinical psychology. vol 10: 1321-1333.
I hope this helps.
Again, if you want to read the full text (for the methods and stats etc) then I am happy to email them to anyone who is interested. This is a really important area of research and affects all of us. I strongly feel more people need to know about this very sensitive topic.

P.S. - you wont find me on google, bar my facebook page. I do my research for a private company. We do not publish our research due to its sensitive nature and patenting reasons

KyMouse| 12.10.09 @ 4:02PM

You don't think women should be frightened to abort their babies, Katrin? I do hope you will do that Internet search for "Synthia Dennard" and "Lou Anne Herron." They were very, very frightened as they bled to death at the hands of "safe, legal" abortionists.

And if a pregnant mother does not "feel adequate for motherhood," there are many, many couples eager to adopt "unwanted" babies.

As I suggested earlier, why not visit a pregnancy-resource center near you and find out why they think mothers deserve better than abortion, and babies deserve a chance?

Michael Tomlinson| 12.9.09 @ 2:59PM

Got to love them blue lapdogs they'll do anything their master Obama wants.

Tony in Central PA| 12.9.09 @ 3:18PM

This situation demonstrates that the identifiers " liberal " and " democrat " today have become synonymous with unreservedly promoting abortion rights. There has been a long effort within liberal and democratic circles to make abortion something so seemingly innocuous and common that it becomes integrated both legally and culturally into the fabric of American to the point people can't imagine life without it.
It can be argued that this has already happened and that the efforts of this Administration amount to an attempt to consolidate this situation and break down further barriers to the complete commoditization of human life. Before 2012, euthanisia will likely be front and center as part of " health " option. At that time, we will again see a few Democrats offer some brief, token resistance.

Tony| 12.9.09 @ 3:23PM

Commoditization of human life? It's all good and Christian if its foreign lives you capitalize on through war.

Tony in Central PA| 12.9.09 @ 5:04PM

Tony, do you object to the term " commoditization " when it comes to things like abortion on demand, embryonic stem cell use, euthanasia, human cloning, etc. ? How else would you describe it ?
Out of curiosity, did you vote for Obama, and if so, what do you think about his Afghanistan plan ?

Tony| 12.9.09 @ 5:21PM

I don't believe in conflating liberal/democratic standpoints with commoditization of human life. I wouldn't allign myself with either party, nor do I believe in Obama as any better than most politicians, since all are funded by essentially the same people. I think all of the practices you mentioned are undoubtedly linked to financial gains, but are also in the interests of the common population but I feel we might vehemently disagree there. (human cloning in the interests of stem cell research that is, not on a star wars scale)

Tony in Central PA| 12.9.09 @ 6:08PM

You're right, we would vehemently disagree there. I think if the things I mentioned are permitted in the trend they seem to be taking, there won't be much of a " common population " left to have its interests satisfied.

Anthony | 12.9.09 @ 6:05PM

why katrin, how misguided and deluded you are - the issue is obviously more complicated that you can understand. Firstly, you seem to be blissfully unaware that eternal hell awaits beyond the gates of this world. Life is a right that we as white Christians must grant to our unborn foetuses. Any other standpoint is sinful. period!
anyone who says that they don't have souls has obviously never seen ultrasound pictures of their tiny fingers and little noses - this is scientific proof that abortion is murder.
Furthermore, a society which deems women to have the intellectual and spiritual autonomy to dictate the fate of an unborn child, is clearly deranged. The fact that women are on average, 20% less responsible than men, is alone reason to revoke the "right to choose". If we do not see the total illegalization of abortion, then it will only be a matter of time before the fabric of our beautiful American patriarchy will fall to the forces of sodomy and liberalism.
and ncatty: i totally agree! the fact our tax money is going towards anything other than defending our freedom is outrageous, and something we should all make more of a fuss about.
God bless
Anthony

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Obama's restoring of funds for pregnancy prevention measures in the world's poorest countries reduced abortions by 10's of millions in the next 8 years. Republicans lie about the Mexico City Policy by falsely claiming it funds abortions, etc. It's been illegal for US $'s to fund abortions overseas since 1973, but we DO fund pregnancy prevention measures, emergency field birth kits, etc.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_wrld.htm

1993: Repeal of the funding ban: President Clinton felt that private, foreign organizations should be able to receive USAID funding for that part of their programs that involved pregnancy prevention, even though they used their funds raised elsewhere to finance abortions or to appeal for abortion reform. On 1993-JAN-22, his second day in office, he rescinded the executive order.

2001: Reinstatement of the funding ban: On 2001-JAN-22, during his first day in office, President George W. Bush reinstated the funding ban for family planning programs run by agencies that also provide abortion services out of their own funds. His rationale was somewhat confusing. He wrote to the U.S. Agency for International Development: "It is my conviction that taxpayer funds should not be used to pay for abortions or advocate or actively promote abortion, either here or abroad." But no such funds have ever been granted. Existing legislation prevents foreign grants from being used to fund abortions or provide abortion counseling.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0126-05.htm

January 26, 2001: Family planning research groups, such as the Alan Guttmacher Institute, last year said that if US funding levels were restored to the $540 million (from $425 million), the following would happen: Nearly 12 million more couples in developing countries would gain access to modern methods of contraception.

There would be 4.3 million fewer unintended pregnancies, 1.5 million fewer unintended births, 500,000 fewer miscarriages; 2.2 million fewer abortions each year; 8,000 fewer deaths from unsafe abortions, 7,000 fewer deaths from other causes related to pregnancy and 92,000 fewer deaths of infants.

Bush cut funding on 1-22-2001, then cut it some more in 2002, so it was roughly 1/2 or just over $200 million. However, some of it was restored because of his 2003 Africa/Aids program, which he didn't fully fund either. Bush cut aids funding completely in early 2001, and dropped another program in Congress (around $800K more) too. then restarted the program 2 years later promising roughly the same $ amount he prevented in the first place.

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I’ll have a Poptropica full written walkthrough very soon, but in the ArenaBetting.com dukung fair play FIFA world cup AFSEL 2010meantime, here are some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about Mythology Island. Having trouble? Post a question in the comments and I’ll try to answer it!
Getting Hercules to Help You

Hercules won’t help you until you have all five items from Zeus’ quest. Once you have the five items, bring them to Athena. Zeus will appear and steal them. The big jerk! Once this happens, talk to Athena and she will tell you that Hercules will help you. You’ll need to have the magic mirror from Aphrodite because Hercules doesn’t want to have to walk. He’s so lazy!
Getting the Hydra Scale

You can see how to do this in the videos, but basically you need to jump up when the Hydra is about to strike. He will rear one of his heads back to attack and his eyes will bulge out. When this happens, jump up in the air and then try to land on top of his head. That head will get knocked out. When all five heads get knocked out, the ArenaBetting.com dukung fair play FIFA world cup AFSEL 2010Hydra will be asleep and you can click on him to get one of the scales. Poptropica I’ll have a Poptropica full written walkthrough very soon, but in the meantime, here are some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about Mythology Island. Having trouble? Post a question in the comments and I’ll try to answer it!
Getting Hercules to Help You

Hercules won’t help you until you have all five items from Zeus’ quest. Once you have the five items, bring them to Athena. Zeus will appear and steal them. The big jerk! Once this happens, talk to Athena and she will tell you that Hercules will help you.ArenaBetting.com dukung fair play FIFA world cup AFSEL 2010 You’ll need to have the magic mirror from Aphrodite because Hercules doesn’t want to have to walk. He’s so lazy!
Getting the Hydra Scale ArenaBetting.com dukung fair play FIFA world cup AFSEL 2010

You can see how to do this in the videos, but basically you need to jump up when the Hydra is about to strike. He will rear one of his heads back to attack and his eyes will bulge out. When this happens, jump up in the air and then try to land on top of his head. That head will get knocked out. When all five heads get knocked out, the Hydra will be asleep and you can click on him to get one of the scales.Poptropica

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Crystal Admiral | 5.12.10 @ 9:33AM

Thanks for sharing. Crystal Admiral

Scheveningen | 11.26.10 @ 6:28PM

Obama...what a fail..

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