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Treachery as Lifestyle Choice
A hate criminal liberalism couldn’t identify.
President Obama, speaking at Tuesday’s memorial, described the Fort Hood attack as “incomprehensible.” But what’s incomprehensible about it? Nidal Malik Hasan telegraphed his treachery. The drip-drip-drip of reports reveals that Hasan self-identified himself as a threat to the military and authorities still hesitated to investigate him.
A PC-addled military and Defense Department simply froze: fellow soldiers didn’t want to risk the appearance of intolerance; investigators worried about incursions upon recent First Amendment jurisprudence.
General George Casey’s staggeringly inane comment after the shooting captures the atmosphere that explains it: “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”
Diversity at this point is a synonym for mindlessness and self-hating hypocrisy. Were Hasan a virulent and outspoken Christian military chaplain, he would have been branded a hate criminal and whisked away. But since he is a Muslim, since Obama isn’t at “war with Islam,” and since Islam is so obviously a religion of peace, he was given a wide swath.
Under the paralysis of a PC culture, all Muslims are moderate Muslims and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot. If Hasan didn’t define Islam as a religion of peace but as a religion of jihad, that was okay; he would come around in time to the superior liberal understanding of Islam as non-violent.
The irresponsible frivolousness of such attitudes is mind-boggling. While Obama’s Homeland Security was issuing dilettantish warnings about disgruntled, Timothy McVeigh-style soldiers coming back from war and pro-life activists at abortion clinics, the Defense Department was ignoring a deadly threat in plain sight.
While Obama was rescinding George Bush’s protection of the conscience rights of Christian doctors and nurses, the Defense Department fretted over the freedoms of an open jihadist. While Obama was attaching a “hate crimes” provision to his defense spending bill, aimed not at radical Muslims but at the left’s usual list of conservative “bigots,” a proponent of suicide bombings was plotting the worst shooting on a U.S. military base ever.
And after it all occurs, his administration doesn’t even pause in its political correctness. The priority now is to ensure that Muslims don’t suffer a “backlash” from Americans and that “diversity” thrive in the military, according to Casey.
Liberalism as death wish has never been clearer. Completely unwilling to engage the facts, Evan Thomas and company competed for the most obtuse explanations of the shooting: maybe Hasan had been victimized by anti-Muslim prejudice; then it was Hasan as shared (through his patients) trauma victim of the Bush years; finally Hasan as “just a nut case,” Thomas’s contribution to the discussion.
For General Casey, a diminished commitment to diversity loomed as the greater tragedy; for Evan Thomas, the greater tragedy was that Hasan would “get the right wing going.”
There it was: the real threat to America, the “right wing.”
The war against jihadists is not nearly as worrisome to the left as the culture war at home. The only ideology the left seeks to reform is conservatism; the only theology it considers dangerous is Christian. Islam is peaceful; conservatism is divisive.
But sometimes the doctrines of Christianity do come in handy for liberal pols in need of bracing rhetoric. At Tuesday’s memorial, Obama departed momentarily from his Oprahized Christianity and seemed to imply that Hasan was headed for hell: “It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know — no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. For what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world, and the next.”
About the Author
George Neumayr, a contributing editor to The American Spectator, is co-author, with Phyllis Schlafly, of the new book, No Higher Power: Obama’s War on Religious Freedom.
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Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 6:53AM
Stewart mocks Hannity for inflating Bachmann rally attendance, trying to pass 9-12 rally footage off as Bachmann rally footage
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911100063
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Claiming he "screwed up," Hannity "apologizes" for airing "incorrect video" of 9-12 protests while discussing Bachmann rally
November 11, 2009 10:27 pm ET
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911110053
ggoblue| 11.12.09 @ 8:25AM
the subject is treachery and once the terrorists finally set off a nuke here we will hang traitors like you from every streetlight.
Son Of Sam | 11.12.09 @ 12:09PM
seriously, why are we WAITING for the nukes? Put 'em on trial now, let the facts come out, then shoot these "hate america" pukes
stand strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam
http://www.samadamssos.bravehost.com/
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.12.09 @ 12:09PM
Well Ladies and gentlemen, The American Thinker site is red-hot today! check it out.
I am now going to write the "dreaded words",
With all due respect for Dubyah, I think it is pretty obvious.........again............ that we are engaged in:
..................HOLY WAR....................
...whether we like it or not.
Some of you fellow Bible scholars know precisely how that works from the old testament...uh that means men, women, children, cows, goats, and pet rabbits.
That is precisely what the word "jihad" means... literally.
Well, we are better at it than anyone. Witness Japan and Germany.
The so-called liberals among us are to be ignored henceforth. They are all both physical and moral cowards, of no use to anyone when it comes crunch time
I personally see the first cracks in the media wall.
Lou Dobbs quit CNN yesterday.
About time!
JBobs| 11.12.09 @ 1:36PM
Texican, re: your comment about crunch time. In the past there has always been enough backbone in the citizenry and its leaders for each to muster up and do what was necessary for the good of the 'ol USA. The libs have always denigrated the real fighters and the leaders who have made the hard choices that have given the libs the opportunity to spout their nonsense and ultimately even their right to exist. Given our present cultural diversity I wonder if at crunch time it may this time be every man for himself.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.12.09 @ 3:49PM
JBobs
I shall remind you of what one our founders said:
"WE must all hang together, or we shall most certainly hang separately".
Don't have family and loved ones?
Join TEAM AMERICA www.myteamusa.org and get to work. Or...go be a mountain-man...stupid.
Louis Jenkins| 11.12.09 @ 3:34PM
Dear Old Texican:
Don't forget poisoning the well, salting the fields, and burning all the grain. But the children will be sold off as slaves or concubines.
Hasan was charged with 13 counts of murder this afternoon. What took so long?
JamesJ| 11.12.09 @ 7:00AM
Marcel, what does your comment have to do with the article?
All Hail Obama!
All Hail the State!
Liberals are sheep
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:24AM
That was my way of saying you conservatives stay full of ...
I have been saying it for years.
Sean isn't the only conservative playing that game; all of you play that game, & this article is just another example of you playing that spin game.
" Right-wingers are corrupt to the core."
It is not the truth that matters it what you can get people to believe.
That quote is from Ru$h Limbaugh, & I dare you to try & sue me.
Howard| 11.12.09 @ 8:03AM
What are you trying to say?
Ned| 11.12.09 @ 12:32PM
Marcell,
I thought Joe Kennedy said that, to paraphrase, "it's not what you are; it's the image of what people think you are that matters."
JimE| 11.12.09 @ 5:35PM
Marcell,
How's obama's unwashed, feces encrusted, boil covered anus taste?
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:28AM
Good Night
Philoktetes| 11.12.09 @ 8:29AM
First, You Lie.
Second, Good night.
bob alou| 11.12.09 @ 12:03PM
Marcell, wipe the sputter drool off you face and make a point. Hannity apologized and corrected the record. When is the last time you say a member of the MSM do the same? You opine about the conservatives supposed avoidance of the truth, yet make no argument, offer no evidence, or suggest a specific example to justify your nonsensical accusation. Outrages disputation is not the same thing as informed debate.
Patriot Machine| 11.13.09 @ 4:24AM
Would he have apologized if someone smart (ie: not a Fox viewer) had not noticed it and pointed out his, obviously deliberate, mistake?
Keep it up!
Johnno| 11.16.09 @ 1:53AM
ACORN lying liberals are always outraged when someone else plays fast and loose with the facts.
HYPOCRITES!!
Kris Lepine| 11.12.09 @ 7:32AM
Thank you for this bold and insightful article. I agree 100%. One other glaring omission I've noticed from all the media coverage of this horror is what an outright coward Hasan was. Like so many other Jihadists, he shot unarmed men and women. And he knew they would be unarmed when he went to do this carnage. True cowardess.
We should require our military leaders, like Casey, go and see the dead men and women in the morgue. Maybe then they would realize these are human beings with eternal souls, precious to us and to God. Kris Lepine
stephanie| 11.12.09 @ 7:34AM
Marcell~Hannity does NOT speak for conservatives. He certainly does NOT speak for this Virgina conservative. The PC culture caused this and you know it. It's a no brainer that a kindergardener could figure out. Casey is no warrior, he's a politician in a uniform and he spews this adminstrations communist pap.
So take your "all conservatives are like Hannity" and shove it.
Howard| 11.12.09 @ 8:06AM
Great article!. Gen. Casey is typical of post WWII top brass. He is a political warrior who keeps his finger to the winds. Al Haig was the classic ass kissing politico who made it to the top. Believe me if policy changes from D.C.. Gen. Casey will sing a different song. The only real way to punish these guys is to take away their pensions. That's the only thing they give a rats a** about.
John II| 11.12.09 @ 4:25PM
Yes, there's already evidence of Casey's careerist flexibility. When he was in charge of the Iraq operation under Bush (and eventually had to be replaced by the sure-enough warrior Petraeus), he had the following to say in an interview (I'm paraphrasing): Iraq is not at all like Vietnam. In Vietnam we had the choice to leave and we took it, walking away from a determined enemy. This time we have no such choice. This time, if we take a walk, the enemy is going to come after us.
Confucius say, "Careerist find proper eloquence for any stance, right or wrong."
The Bishop| 11.12.09 @ 8:13AM
Political correctness is killing our country - literally! While the liberal lights spew their "diversity is strength" pablum, our enemies see that so-called "diversity" is a major opening of weakness to exploit to our detriment. Stephanie is so right when she calls Casey (and all the others of his ilk) a politician in a uniform. Shameful!
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 8:32AM
After serving 20 years in the military have a birds eye view in how political correctness rules the day.
Many years ago I was reading in one of the many military periodicals that advocacy groups were complaining that not enough minorities were not getting promoted i.e. selected to the Staff Non Commissioned Officers ranks and more should be in the name of making the military more diverse.
Please keep in mind that this was all coming about during the Clinton military social re-engineering experiment.
During one of the many I guess you would say seminars covering promotions, the speakers kept reiterating that race or gender was not a factor in being selected to the SNCO ranks only merit. Well we know how that one turned out don't we?
During the twilight of my career, I saw time and time again minorities and women use their race of gender as a weapon of revenge through such accusations of alleged sexual harassment, racism, and now religious extremism. I don't know if religious extremism or alleged religious harassment was present during my career, but I cannot honestly comment on this aspect because I never personally observed it.
There is a caste system within the military at least at the SNCO level where is is more prevalent because of competition to be promoted.
Certain groups within the military are, I guess could call them untouchable to aspects that would effect the rank and file, such as DUI's, or minor infractions that some would be punishable by the UCMJ and the protected class would only get a slap on the wrist if anything.
One particular woman who was an E-6, at one time of her career had special duty. Her and I were in the same command at the time but had no work association together. This SNCO's billet was Communications Chief. She was relieved by the Commanding Officer of her position due to the fact her communications shop failed repeatedly in many of the many inspections that had taken place.
She was moved into one of the "S" Shops because she had to me moved somewhere. During her tenure she received two DUI's in the same week in which the command was aware of. Her on base driving privileges were supposed to have been revoked immediately, they were not.
She realized her career was all but Kaput and then she developed alleged physical maladies that would allow her to be medically discharged.
To make this long story short, one DUI by a SNCO should be career ending, but not only did this woman have two back to back DIU's, relieved of her leadership position as Comm Chief, unable to work full eight hours days because she had some physical malady, but still was able to go to a nightclub and get into a fight with a married woman, and get what her command did? She was recommended for promotion and promoted to the grade of E-7 and three months later she was medically discharged and went home to raise horses.
The reason I have went to great lengths to explain all this is. The above system that allowed this woman to be protected and promoted in spite of all infractions that she had done is exactly the same system that allowed Major Hasan to murder his fellow soldiers.
The protection of military careers far outweighs the protection of its people that this system is supposed to look out for. This is one of the biggest problems that faces military leadership today.
Our brave men and women have two enemies to fight, the one that is on the battlefield and the one that is on base and I'm not talking about Major Hasan.
Fooled You| 11.12.09 @ 8:38AM
stephanie
You are not being honest... FAUX NEWS SPEAKS FOR YOU.
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General George Casey's staggeringly inane comment after the shooting captures the atmosphere that explains it: "Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that's worse."
Diversity at this point is a synonym for mindlessness and self-hating hypocrisy. Were Hasan a virulent and outspoken Christian military chaplain, he would have been branded a hate criminal and whisked away. But since he is a Muslim, since Obama isn't at "war with Islam," and since Islam is so obviously a religion of peace, he was given a wide swath.
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One day in my college speech class, I gave a speech about the Bible, just to prove that the right wingers were full of it when they make many of their false claims. This time I was proving that a person can talk about God in a class room, & not be sent to the PC brig.
I concluded the speech by looking out the class room door for the PC police... It was a joke, & they laughed.
I can also conclude that my fellow students showed me some PC when I talked about religion. Maybe because I wasn't proselytizing.
My fellow students should have reported me If , if, if, (Just Making it clear) I would have started using my religion to attack another person faith in the way that the terrorist did.
If you are afraid to report a personlike that, it would be because you bought into all the fear for PC police created by right-wing leaders to manipulate you.
The cold thing about the PC & diversity debate is that you are going to lose it.
The sad thing about it all is that the Limbaugh faction of the Republican Party are counting on you to feel frustrated. Most of you will get angrier & angrier until some one does something stupid when or if you lose. It wont be any skin off of your leaders back, because most of you feel that Rpugs shouldn't be held accountable for anything, not even their racism.
Finally, most Americans can care less about convicting the last 2 war criminals you elected, & you know that the average American can care less that Sean Insanity got busted trying to inflate the numbers at that rally.
The cold thing about it is that you conservatives are so lost & turned out that you give them the leeway to never accomplish any of your crazy dreams for America.
Guess what, I am trying to help them offend you too, because that plan is weak. The Ru$h types thought that the same fears would help McCain defeat Obama.
Stop being their useful idiots, & get past your ... fears.
Love Marcell
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.12.09 @ 11:49AM
Heh, Marcell sweetie, can you picture the world's smallest violin playing "my heart bleeds for you"?
Stephanie| 11.12.09 @ 12:08PM
You'd like it Marcell if we would just take the pill and fall in lockstep with you and your obama loving ilk. Well don't hold your breath you weakkneed freak, 'cause you will turn blue.
Oh Crap! I forgot! You already are!
Pete2| 11.12.09 @ 1:04PM
Maybe you should have started with a prayer and mentioned Jesus's name. Not only that, I noticed a hate filled diatribe against anyone you consider conservative and to the right. You teach our young people? You are what is wrong with "education" in this nation. My daughter had idiot professors like you in college and they spent most of their time in diatribes rather than teaching.
John II| 11.12.09 @ 4:31PM
Confucius also say, "Liberal logophobe like gilded lily: pretty outside, but dead inside."
Pingback| 11.12.09 @ 8:51AM
New Paltz Journal » Blog Archive » “Treachery as Lifestyle Choice” links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 8:52AM
Howard:
Good post. I sent an e-mail on the DOD website to GEN Casey telling him that he'd gotten all the stars he was going to get and to stop sucking up. A departed friend of mine, who flew F-105s in Vietnam, was asked once why he retired at Lieutenant Colonel and didn't continue on towards a star. He said that he wanted to fly and that he didn't want to have to become a political officer just to get a star. Byron was correct on the political aspect. GEN Casey is a waste of a commission. Neither a warrior or a leader is he. The country is diminished by his lackings.
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 8:55AM
Howard:
One more name for the political officer list. Colin Powell.
North Rebel| 11.12.09 @ 9:06AM
Marcel:
Congratulations on toeing the liberal line, and Quoting Rush out of context. His statement about getting people to believe, was about liberals, but you think we are stupid enough to believe you.
Sounds like projection to me, stupid.
1Freeman| 11.12.09 @ 9:07AM
So let me get this straight: A radical muslim in uniform murders a bunch of soldiers preparing to go forward to defend our country and way of life and he horribly injures over a dozen more and all you liberal retards can do is berate conservatives? Did I just read that? You are the most disgusting sub-humans I think I have ever seen or read. You idiots are actually defending a mass murdering muslim. Really? Are you so filled with his brand of hate that you can justify this in your little minds? Wow! You are a piece of work.
I mean the shame your own words bring upon yourselves is abhorrent, putrid and vile. I agree with "ggoblue" when he talked of a response to the first atomic attack. The first liberal that accuses me of being responsible for an attack on American soil will eat a bullet, maybe two (double-tap, to be sure).
As a deployed veteran (2007-2008, Afghanistan) I find the liberal attack on soldiers beginning to look like Vietnam. You guys are so disgusting! Unlike my brothers in arms I think I will actively defend myself if I ever cross paths with your breed of hippie. Clearly the peaceful restraint of my forefathers had no effect.
You have been warned. There is no crying in hand to hand combat.
Bydand76| 11.13.09 @ 1:52AM
AYE!
I got your back Freeman.
I am more than ready to get it started as well!
I have had enough of being the kicking can for these liberal socialist pigs!
"Controlled pairs" for them all! Hooah!
Pro Libertate
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 9:19AM
Marcell:
Congratulations on toeing the liberal line, and Quoting Rush out of context. His statement about getting people to believe, was about liberals, but you think we are stupid enough to believe you.
Sounds like projection to me, stupid.
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I dare Ru$h to try to sue me for slander.
I am a Ru$h fan, because he use to made me so angry that I became a political junkie.
Ru$h fires me up to become more politically active. I study Ru$h like I study those who post on these blogs.
Put it like this, "I don't watch TV, I listen to talk radio show after talk radio show." I can do it 12 hours a day for about 2 years straight without a wink of an eye.
Just think, I don't like conservatism & still pay close attention to them.
Pete2| 11.12.09 @ 1:06PM
Yawn.... sounds like you might be psychotic, better get some help.
Louis Jenkins| 11.12.09 @ 9:20AM
From my perspective, PC or not, the shootings at Ft. Hood were not a criminal act by some lone gunman who was upset because his jelly biscuit was served without jelly! This was a planned act and premeditated murder charges should follow. Why did this Muslim-AINO carry it out? Because his religious beliefs told him to!! This act wasn’t stress related, and it wasn’t because Hasan’s fellow soldiers made fun of him. The Muslim war on the West is alive and well in the US, it has infiltrated all segments of our society, and our leadership is letting this happen. Hasan swore an oath to defend the Constitution and the country, not to obey the words of the Koran. No one put a gun to his head and forced him to take that oath. This should undoubtedly prove to the weak kneed apologizers which is more important to Muslims. Religion of Peace? When Christians, Jews, and westerners (even the folks who post here) are dead there will be peace and that includes those who seek justification for Hasan’s actions. You can expect no mercy from them unless you convert. The pundits and the high brass can make excuses all day long, but it doesn’t cut the mustard. People were mercilessly killed without a warning!! Go ahead and bring up GW and Cheney, it still doesn’t mitigate the crime. Hasan should stand accused for his act and Military justice should swiftly follow. Enough babbling from the pathetic excuse makers!!
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 9:23AM
1Freeman:
I was called a baby-killer while in Basic Training long ago. Prepare yourselves for a resumption of that sort of garbage from the demented liberals. It's in something they eat or drink, I suppose.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 9:24AM
So let me get this straight: A radical muslim in uniform murders a bunch of soldiers preparing to go forward to defend our country and way of life and he horribly injures over a dozen more and all you liberal retards can do is berate conservatives? Did I just read that? You are the most disgusting sub-humans I think I have ever seen or read. You idiots are actually defending a mass murdering muslim. Really? Are you so filled with his brand of hate that you can justify this in your little minds? Wow! You are a piece of work.
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That story is about PC & diversity.
I am not going to call you a name.
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Rewrite
So let me get this straight: A radical muslim in uniform murders a bunch of soldiers preparing to go forward to defend our country and way of life and he horribly injures over a dozen more and all you bigot repugs can do is berate PC & Diversity.
You cats are stuck on stupid.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 9:26AM
Man, we need anger management.
=)
SJC| 11.12.09 @ 10:23AM
As evidenced by Marcell's comments, liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 9:30AM
From my perspective blah blah blah
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This is your perspective.
Stewart mocks Hannity for inflating Bachmann rally attendance, trying to pass 9-12 rally footage off as Bachmann rally footage
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911100063
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Claiming he "screwed up," Hannity "apologizes" for airing "incorrect video" of 9-12 protests while discussing Bachmann rally
November 11, 2009 10:27 pm ET
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911110053
Trumped up right-wing gobly gook.
Bruce | 11.12.09 @ 9:19PM
Hey asswipe - your village called the cops a few minutes ago to report their idiot missing. Make haste back to the slime from which you came and join your friends at Kos.
Dickwad.
louis tully| 11.12.09 @ 9:38AM
After Casey opened his stupid yap, there was no longer any mystery about what happened at Ft. Hood. Only Q now is, who takes the fall? I nominate Gen. Casey.
Give Respect to Get Respect| 11.12.09 @ 9:40AM
Definition of Diversity
The concept of diversity encompasses acceptance and respect.
It means understanding that each individual is unique, and recognizing our individual differences. These can be along the dimensions of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, age, physical abilities, religious beliefs, political beliefs, or other ideologies. It is the exploration of these differences in a safe, positive, and nurturing environment.
It is about understanding each other and moving beyond simple tolerance to embracing and celebrating the rich dimensions of diversity contained within each individual.
Howard| 11.12.09 @ 11:42AM
What you say about "Diversity" is true. However, diversity is not an excuse to hide ones head in the sand, deny apparent facts because they don't fit your preconceived notions, and certainly not a license for suicide.
1-bean@sbcglobal.net| 11.12.09 @ 11:53AM
Nah, it is NOW about shooting the terrorists before they shoot us.
Let God counsel with them.
Larry C. Roberts, MD, MA| 11.12.09 @ 9:46AM
If Gen. Casey is so concerned with diversity, why does he wear a "uniform" and submit to the "Uniform" Code of Military Justice? As a former USAF Flight Surgeon, I can attest to the fact that the last thing a commander wants to see among his pilots is diversity in the manner in which they fly their aircraft. That is why pilots follow checklists, flight manuals and procedural guidelines in performing their missions. Gen. Casey has spent so much time checking his own six that he now identifies with the crowd of multicultural lemmings leading the military over the cliff of institutional emasculation. His remarks demonstrate his committment to an ideology that is incompatible with the warrior ethos, and, in my opinion, render him unfit as a commander. While fooling himself, the sad thing is that he can't fool the troops he purports to lead. They know and distrust a perfumed prince when they smell one.
Tim| 11.12.09 @ 9:52AM
I am only happy that Hasan didn't have access to a nuclear weapon.
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 9:54AM
That we are at least aware of, correct?
Tim| 11.12.09 @ 1:20PM
Let's just hope there are no devout muslims texting Al Queda from a missile silo in North Dakota.
ncatty| 11.12.09 @ 9:59AM
I hope ex-major Hasan appreciates that fact that a 5'4" infidel woman took him down. Allahu akbar that!
PolishKnight| 11.12.09 @ 10:00AM
One of the most incredible turns of history is the left embracing radical Islam due to PC anti-white racist hypocrisy and a backlash against GW's war in Iraq.
Despite their differences, the two ideologies have much in common: Both want to dominate the world. Both are followed by fanatics who are happy to sacrifice themselves, and especially others, on the altar of their religion.
But there is one clear difference: Most on the left are only willing to sacrifice themselves via stupidity (slow death via cultural suicide and high taxes) and not stare death directly in the eye. When there's a cultural conflict between the two of them, the left submits like a weak puppy.
This illustrates that leftism has only survived and even thrived in the west, while dying in the East (20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin wall) due to protection and indulgence from the Right. They're nothing but parasites.
SusieQ| 11.12.09 @ 10:01AM
Psychobabble.
One of the horseman of the Apocalypse of Ft. Hood. Except it rides on a unicorn...
dum&dummer;| 11.12.09 @ 10:02AM
marcell, about the thought police. why don't you ask the folks of the uk?
Timothy L. Pennell| 11.12.09 @ 10:08AM
CASEY IS A DIGRACE. Enough of these 'GENERALS' who are more concerned with their CAREERS, than they are with their PEOPLE. I SPIT on this PUKE of a Soldier. Methinks he QUIT being a SOLDIER a LOOOOOOOOONG Time Ago.
R Martin| 11.12.09 @ 10:08AM
“…fellow soldiers didn't want to risk the appearance of intolerance…”
It is not only fellow soldiers who want to avoid this risk; it is all liberals, leftists, school and university administrators and surrender apologists in general. Which, of course, is odd. After all, what is Islam but a philosophy of intolerance? Not just the sort of intolerance which produces head shaking annoyance or disgust but the sort which causes violent reaction—death, hatred, retribution.
Americans have allowed themselves to become ridiculously non judgmental, and we shrink from anything which might cause offense even to silly crackpots. Accordingly, university presidents remove crosses from chapels (chapels!), politicians and judges rule that crosses cannot be erected on hillsides to honor war dead and the Boy Scouts cannot be selective in what leaders are appropriate role models for young men. All the while many Muslims among us chose to present themselves publically in clothing which shouts out and celebrates their religious beliefs. I have no doubt that in many cases they do this primarily to cause offense and, with me at least, it works. Whenever I see a hijab, a galabiyya or a kufi skull cap I’m reminded vividly of exactly who is waging war on our county and its civilians with monstrous acts of violence. But my views are regarded as intolerant, because Islam is a “religion”.
Perhaps that’s the problem. Let’s acknowledge Islam for what it is--a philosophy with an ideology totally inconsistent with traditional religious orthodoxy. Because they believe they are blessed by “God” killing non believers is not just acceptable, it’s a holy mission. We would not accept, say, the tenants of the North American Man Boy Love Association (or anything equally offensive) if its members claimed to be divinely inspired. Why the deference to Islam?
Louis Jenkins| 11.12.09 @ 10:14AM
These can be along the dimensions of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, age, physical abilities, religious beliefs, political beliefs, or other ideologies. It is the exploration of these differences in a safe, positive, and nurturing environment.
When there is great emphasis on diversity an organization no longer maintains its stated mission. More attention is given to the nuiances and touchy feely needs of each individual. For an organization to 'seriously' function it must be of one mind, one purpose. ie, the Roman Legion. It was made up of many nationalities, but its one purpose was to carry out the will of the Roman Empire. It did a pretty good job too! Which is more important? Diversity or a well trained, amalgamized military machine that has one purpose? Diversity sounds good and looks good in civilian life, but it has no place in a situation were you depend on the guy next to you to cover your backside.
Matt Morehouse| 11.12.09 @ 10:28AM
I wonder; had the Major used one of those explosive vests that seem so popular with his ilk how would the PC Corps defend him.
My fear now is that he will succumb to his wounds or some other more nefarious malady before he is on the stand and removes any doubt about his true colors http:/conversationsaroundawoodstove.blogspot.com.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 10:41AM
After 2 days of debating this issue, I have concluded.
I actually believe we can win this debate by forcing elected officials to agree or disagree with many of their repugnant spin doctors in the media.
Then force them to defend or agree with the radicals in their Party.
All we have to do is control the debate & dictate the rules of the debate. That means allow the conservatives to think that they are talking about PC, & then we shift the debate over to why it is important to show people the appropriate respect at the same time be vigilant in fighting terrorism..
I think Dems should understand that the PC / diversity debate is about trying to hurt Obama. It has nothing to do with the Repugs love for this country, because they love conservatism more, so treat their kind with respect, but force them to play our game with their rhetoric.
They are using the military incodent to play a game. They, the Repugs hope they can trick the American people in to believing that if you defend treating all Americans with respect then you are with the terrorist.
I am glad this is over, because I hate debate race with tone death bigoted repugs.
God Bless America.
Moby Froll| 11.12.09 @ 11:00AM
I'm with you, brother. When the Caliphate is established here, in the 57 United States of Islam, I will join you in shouting "Death to the Infidel Pigs" from the loudspeaker on top of the Spire of the Prophet (formerly known as "The Washington Monument")!
What a day that will be!
Allahu Akbar!
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 11:04AM
Moby Froll it will be a very, very cold day in hell when that comes about in this Country.
Moby Froll| 11.12.09 @ 11:21AM
Ah, my friend, but you see, we have a plan.
Soon, under cover of darkness, Obama's face will replace Abraham Lincoln's on The Mount of the Prophet (aka "Mount Rushmore).
Jefferson will replaced by Jeremiah Wright.
Washington ugly Infidel mug will be seen no more! Instead, the Most Holy Protector of the Holy City of Mecca His Royal Majesty the King of Saudi Arabia (and the recipient of the first-ever Presidential Bow to a Muslim Head of State) will grace the mount of the Prophet.
We had to let Joe Biden take Roosevelt's place. What can you do?
The Infidel Dog will soon learn to heel at the call of the man the noble Colonel Kaddafi's calls the Son of Africa!!!
You think there will be ELECTIONS in 2012???!!! Ha!
Allahu Akbar!!!
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 11:36AM
Moby, you may have a point in your last sentence, just not in the fashion that you think it is going to come about.
But don't let your turban (rag) get into a wad if it doesn't happen. By the way Joe's mug cannot fit, his head is too big.
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 11:02AM
Marcell, I'm sure you absolutely believe in what you are posting, because if you didn't you wouldn't have posted you well thought out comments.
Of course I don't intend the latter to be a compliment.
The very thing that you despise in Republicans is the very thing that you post. You have become what you despise.
You claim Conservatives want it their way or the
highway but your opposite ideological view is exactly the same.
Some of your observations and opinions are correct, and many will agree with you on that, but
you just can't put up an ideological Berlin Wall to Conservatives nor can they with you.
Conservatives cannot be disavowed, nor can Liberals.
But the government has done such a outstanding job at keeping us at each others throats, the whole concept of doing what is best for the Country has been completely been replaced with, what is good for the political party and not what is good for the Country.
Pete2| 11.12.09 @ 1:44PM
The problem here is one of perspective. There is nothing wrong with classical liberalism in itself. It has accomplished some good things, as has conservatism. What is happening today is that we are confusing left wing radicalism with classical liberlism. Marcel speaks from the radical left of the spectrum. While some of their arguments and thoughts embrace classical liberalism concepts, their overall diatribes are of the radical leftist mentality.
Jobe| 11.12.09 @ 11:01AM
I find the left's slavish addiction to the cause of militant jihadist islam to be the most incomprehensible and patently foolish political position I have ever encountered. My lord, what can these people be thinking? When shariah becomes the law of the land, as it surely will if the islamists get their way, the left with their culture of homosexuality, pornography, pedophilia, atheism, and all of the other goodies in the liberal grab bag, will be the first beheaded. Never have lemmings run willy nilly toward their own destruction as do these fools.
John Navratil| 11.12.09 @ 11:03AM
I got this definition of political correctness in an email yesterday and thought it apropos.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
I'm waiting to find the clean end of this story.
Dustoff| 11.12.09 @ 11:22AM
Why does Marcell so remind me of our not so famous poster (David Mathews) The fool who would post one dumb thing after another, then leave to hit another website. And start all over again. I wonder, is that YOU davie. LOL
Oldefarte| 11.12.09 @ 11:52AM
The FBI recently proclaimed that approximately 10% of Muslims/Mosques are radical, and no doubt the actual percentage is more like 75%. When is America going to WAKE UP to what is happening in this country? If they do not, there will be no America left in the near future. Liberals control/dominate our legislatures, our universities, and our media; and are rapidly driving this country into the toilet. When are normal, hard working, taxpaying, church attending Christians going to seize control of their country back from these radicalized liberals ? Are these normal Americans going to wait until it's too late [which it possibly is already]? Are we going to continue to write editorials about it, to protest at tea party type events, etc and not STOP it? Are we going to continue to vote for diversity and affirmative action by electing more political leaders like Obama? Are we going to continue to send our children to schools that brainwash them according to liberal dogma? Are we going to continue to buy into their accusations of guilt over slavery, racism, discrimination,etc; which plays right into their manipulative hands? When is America going to WAKE UP??????????
Cpm| 11.12.09 @ 12:13PM
Marcell, political correctness is a phenomenon of the left that is infecting and destroying our country. If you can't grasp that simple fact , everything else you say is rendered worthless.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.12.09 @ 12:16PM
(pardon the copy paste)
Well Ladies and gentlemen, The American Thinker site is red-hot today! check it out.
I am now going to write the "dreaded words",
With all due respect for Dubyah, I think it is pretty obvious.........again............ that we are engaged in:
..................HOLY WAR....................
...whether we like it or not.
Some of you fellow Bible scholars know precisely how that works from the old testament...uh that means men, women, children, cows, goats, and pet rabbits.
That is precisely what the word "jihad" means... literally.
Well, we are better at it than anyone. Witness Japan and Germany.
The so-called liberals among us are to be ignored henceforth. They are all both physical and moral cowards, of no use to anyone when it comes crunch time
I personally see the first cracks in the media wall.
Lou Dobbs quit CNN yesterday.
About time!
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Nick| 11.12.09 @ 1:19PM
Melvin,
I enjoyed your earlier post on how promotions work in the Army.
As someone who put in their 20, could you answer a question I've had for almost 20 years?
I was in the Army for four years (88-92) of a 5 year enlistment as a helicopter mechanic. By the end of the first year I knew the Army wasn't for me. I was the soldier in the unit who was always late for formation, constantly put on details, received so many counseling statements they were referred to as my Counseling Packet, etc.
I actually believed my recruiter when he said, "The Army is overstrength, if you don't like it you can get discharged real easy."
Now, some of my buddies did get chaptered fairly easily. But when I informed my plt. sgt., 1st sgt., co. commander I wanted out, I was told they needed a reason to chapter me, like a bar-of-reenlistment. It took over a year of getting in trouble to get one, while friends of mine got medical chapters in months.
Then Saddam invaded, and stop-loss stopped everyone from getting out. But even after the war was over, I still had trouble in my new unit getting the ball rolling, because my 201 file was missing and it had my bar in it.
Is there a reason they would want to keep me in? I've suspected it might be because of my GT score, but have never been able to confirm this. My score was 126. Did units have a quota or something?
Any info is much appreciated, thanks!
Sandra in Severn| 11.12.09 @ 1:55PM
Not Melvin, and I was Air Force not Army, but... in my career, especially my last few years as a MSgt, (Senior NCO) "good" Airmen and NCOs we tried to keep as long as we could. There were those that we (supervisors) endorsed to early exit, and those we really wanted because they were reliable, skilled, knew "beyond the basics" of their job, and worked well with others.
From my experience in the Air Force, once outside Air Training Command (ATC) (the most PC of all of them), there was no restriction on race, creed, or anything else. But if you were a liability, we would be glad to see you to the door.
If you were an ATC asset, PC trumps all other concerns.
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 2:39PM
Nick I can't truthfully say, because I wasn't there and I don't know you or your character. I was an infantryman, and we worked by a whole different set of rules than the wing did.
The wing was like civilians in uniform. This was a big let down for many Marines who were in the wing because they thought that the leadership was going to be like it was in the grunts.
If you were a malcontent I would have never given you the option of being late for formation. There would have been no paper, no packets, no threats, or physical violence.
I would have given you two options, first was being the best damn helicopter mech. in the Army that you could be. And the other was, that if you disliked the military with every fiber of your being, I would have told you. "Nick, if you hate the military so bad, and you want to leave, do this. Pack all of your military items inside your dufflebag, take all of your personal belongings with you and I mean everything, leave nothing, fold your linen and place it on top of your dufflebag, then finally leave your military ID on top of your linen and walk out the gate, and I never want to see you again." Lastly I would tell the young man, I will deny everything that I just told you."
The young Marine would ask me then what will happen to me? You'll be charged with desertion once the government catches up with you and you'll be thrown into the brig and you will either receive a BCD or discharged with other than honorable conditions.
I never had one man in my unit walk out that gate that way, they chose to be the best helicopter mechanics that they could.
I hoped this helped you in some way Nick.
Melvin| 11.12.09 @ 2:57PM
Nick I forgot to tell you in what I consider the most important thing, when I told those that thought the military wasn't for them.
When I told them to walk out the gate forever, I told them that the decision was theirs alone to make and I wasn't going to do that for them.
It's easy to want to leave when the command puts you out, because you bear no responsibility for that decision, but when that decision is put upon you to make and how it effects your life, it's a whole different ball game, because the you have no one to blame but yourself.
Nick| 11.12.09 @ 3:08PM
Melvin,
Sorry about that. I thought that you wrote you were in the Army, my mistake.
I wished I had had NCOs like yourself when I was in, it might have changed my attitude. I went into basic expecting "Full Metal Jacket" and found out it was more like "Stripes." The Regular Army turned out to be like "M.A.S.H."
But I've changed a lot since then. 20 years ago I would have derogatorily called you a "lifer." Today, I thank you for your service.
Can anybody else out there help me out?
Bydand76| 11.12.09 @ 11:04PM
Ok Nick,
I am currently a SSG serving in an Infantry unit and here is my philosphy
I do not except excuses for anything.
1 If a soldier is consistently later that means there is a breakdown within the soldiers team.
This is intolerable and shows a lack of leadership on the soldies team leader.
I punish with great severity the person who is responsible for not making sure that the soldier in question is not making the standard.
I set my soldiers up for success not failure.
If a team leader is incapable of making sure his men are in the right uniform at the right time in the right place then he should not be a team leader and I will relieve him of his duties outright.
There is no exception to this.
2. I operate on the principle that a unit is only as strong as its weakest link. I do not use counseling statments to inform my soldiers that they have a weakness or a strength. A piece of paper telling them what they need to do, does no more good than someone hitting their head on a brick wall.
They must be taught the value of themself within the structure of the team,squad, platoon, company. Their peers do that for them. Social stigmata with the rank and file is a powerful thing.
If you cannot hack it then other soldiers will let you know how they feel about that.
Lead by example and by character!
I expect my men to be men. Not children who have to be treated as such.
3. Judicial use of the appropriate punishment. The punishment MUST fit the crime. By making someone do an extra detail or perform extra work hours for a repeated infraction simply reinforces an atmosphere of complacency. This is wrong.
Punishment is the means by which you shape a soldier. If you continue to use the same punishment for different infractions then you accomplish nothing.
If a soldier is continually late or is incapable of meeting a standard then he must be shown the correct way and how to acheive the desired result.
If the soldier is incapable of meeting the standard for whatever reason then seperation is a viable option. However, it is a final solution that always takes a serious amount of time and effort. It is almost always never worth it. Except in cases of mental deficiencies.
I have never once seperated a soldier from the Army because I consider this to be a failure on my part. I have never once had a soldier who did not have the capability to reach his full potential. Failure is always the responsibilty of the NCO. If we have not taught them well then we are to blame. There is no avoiding this. It is Fact.
I will say this.
Some people are not meant to be in the Army and that is fine. There is no dishonor in that. Some people are not meant to be in Combat Arms which is fine as well.
Making someone feel that they are a special brand of human being because they are part of something larger than themselves is the paramount lesson that is inherant to being a Infantry soldier. Or any tyoe of soldier for that matter.
We live the Warrior Ethos and follow a strict code of values in the Army sub-culture and we are proud of that.
We are America's warrior class and no one can take that away.
It is not pretty and it is not fun. It is not PC and there is no such thing as racial diversity when someone shoots at you and tries to take your life.
The Army is losing this way of thinking and I am a dying breed. I believe in personal responsibilty and accountability. I believe that in order to be a viable organism capable of great destruction, one must be judicial in its application and hold itself to a higher standard of responsibility.
However, we should not shrink from doing the job of killing people on the field of battle because we might offend somone.
If you had been my soldier Nick I have no doubt what-so -ever that you would have become a fine leader capable of great things.
I would not have excepted anything else from you.
Just my 2 cents is all.
Pro Libertate!
Bydand76| 11.12.09 @ 11:10PM
Please forgive all mis-spellings and typo's
I was in a hurry when I wrote the above post
Nick| 11.13.09 @ 12:08AM
Bydand76,
Thanks for sharing.
I had a squad leader like you during Desert Storm. He was an instructor at my AIT and joined my unit after the air war started. He had been through Ranger training and graduated. He was one of the few NCOs I respected during my 4 years.
In fact, I almost took an article 15 for him after the cease-fire.
As Melvin above wrote, I know there is a huge difference between Infantry and Aviation units. I always had respect for 11-Bravos. Maybe with the right NCOs, my Army experience would have been different.
I've just always wondered why I couldn't get a simple Chapter like my buddies did. I wasn't a criminal or anything. I was just a typical FTA screw-up. Didn't iron my uniform, shine my boots, had to be told to get a haircut.
It's as if the cliche were true: If you wanted to stay in, they had no problem kicking you out. If they knew you wanted out, they kept you in. Drove me nuts.
I couldn't understand why they wanted to keep me and kick my friends out. One of my buddies passed his PT tests no problem, but failed the weigh-in and a tape-test. Not by much, he was just a big stocky guy. They put him on remedial PT. There were plenty of NCOs and officers that couldn't pass the weigh-in, they weren't on remedial. He said, "Chapter me." He was home in less than 5 months.
It's just always bugged me. I always wanted to ask someone with command experience their opinion.
Thanks again for replying, Bydand76.
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Anthony| 11.12.09 @ 1:36PM
There is an easy way to win this war; all Obama has to do is send General Casey over to Iraq and Afghanastan and, as a good will gesture, allow Casey to help re-orgainze al Queda and the Talaban.
They will be taught diversity, meaning that infidels, including gays, will now be accepted by them as fellow jihadists. They will learn new rules of engagement, which will include concerns for civilians. Lawyers will be provided for all captured American troops and they will be treated with GITMO accommodations , which will include 3 squares, with chicken wings and pork ribs, a copy of the U.S. Constitution, a Bible and a Certa sleep comfort bed for a good night's rest.
Of course, this would not happen, al Queda would immediately behead Casey, which, we would do well to consider doing ourselves, as he has no concern for his own troops. All that matters to this bureaucrat general is doing the bidding for our hapless commander-in-chief, so Casey can stay a player. This is INSANE!!
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Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 2:22PM
I have a prediction. It is 'off-topic', but, please bear with me.
I have just read that ACORN is suing the United States for their loss of federal funds subsequent to video scandal. The basic premise is that the bill Congress passed to 'de-fund' them amounts to a Bill of Attainder, i.e., penalty without trial.
So, here's my prediction:
There will be, very shortly, an essay regarding this suit appearing on this site. S.L. Toddard will post in the comments, for the fourth time, his little "monomania" rant, and then suddenly, about two dozen pingbacks to gay sex websites will appear.
David Williams| 11.12.09 @ 2:36PM
Doesn't it make your skin crawl to think that ACORN has been receiving your tax dollars and will very likely receive more of them in the future? Any member of Congress who votes to support that corrupt entity should be exposed and ousted.
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 2:44PM
Yes, it does make my skin crawl. ACORN is a physical manifestation of the Liberal attitude that any tactic is okay because it is for the greater good. Anyone who doesn't believe that the entire raison d'etre of ACORN counselors is to assist people in ripping off the maximum amount from the mainstream taxpayer is either a liar or depressingly naive.
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Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 3:45PM
Folks, the job of the Army is to fight our enemies and defend the country. I notice that our Marine bretheren don't seem to have many wusses as the Commandant. USMC remembers for what they exist. Social engineering? A bad method all the way around. Close with and Kill the enemy!
PCP Smoker| 11.12.09 @ 5:37PM
I wish that creep Casey and his wife and children would have been in that room when the massacre started.
It might be a tough sentiment, but that sentence just rationalized, while taking the moral high ground, the massacre of 14 brave human beings.
Fuck Casey
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 5:50PM
I'm Army aircrew, non-rated. Flew GEN Casey and his wife in the Balkans about 2 1/2 yrs ago. I assure you that the General's "diversity" statement is sticking in his craw yet. It is an unfortunate political reality that he had to make such a statement and an even more unfortunate reality that an extreme sensitivity to the appearances of "fair play" is a necessity in our War on Terror.
It does appear that it has led to these deaths at Ft. Hood. Incidentally, I'll be involved with a couple of the funerals this weekend. Also, I'd like to add that his wife is an exceptionally gracious and genuinely lady.
To say 'F' them is to talk out your wazoo.
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 5:51PM
... genuinely nice lady.
John II| 11.12.09 @ 6:52PM
Doorgunner: Gracious comment, but: He didn't have to say what he said. Look back at the quote. (1) He called the atrocity a "tragedy," which is a morally obtuse and patently dishonest misuse of the word. (2) He said that any trouble the "tragedy" might be for "diversity" would be "worse" than the slaughter perpetrated at Fort Hood.
Think: What kind of a man talks like that? He may very well be personally nice, and his wife is very probably a lovely woman.
But he didn't HAVE to make such a statement. He could have said nothing. Or, if he was actually pressured by some nincompoop higher-up to make such a statement, he could have resigned.
Instead, he made that ghastly public statement. The remark is objectively dishonorable.
Confucius also say, "Nobility of man not served by calculation of same."
LooseCannon69| 11.12.09 @ 6:00PM
What you all seem to be missing or are just too afraid to plainly say is this. Our current Terrorist Sympathizer in Chief is a treachorous scumbag who is clearly hell bent on the destruction of this once great nation. I am certain, and you would be hard pressed to convince me otherwise, that upon hearing of the massacre at Ft. Hood Obama the Great quietly slipped off to some out of the way Whitehouse bathroom with the latest addition of Jihadi Boy Monthly and masturbated feverishly at the thought of all the dead and dying who had so bravely, if not foolishly, volunteered to serve and defend our country. I say foolishly, not out of disrespect, I have a son in the armed forces, but with the growing understanding that the true enemies of America are not to be found on some foreign field but in the halls of government at every level from dogcatcher all the way up to the Administrative branch. Wake up! For God's sake, and the sake of your children, neighbors and fellow citizens everywhere, WAKE UP!
Dixie Pixie| 11.12.09 @ 6:28PM
Wake me up when we get to the American Reconquista.
I know what happens when you get too far in front of the Federal government.
JJ| 11.12.09 @ 6:22PM
I would like to see Major Hasan, the card-carrying soldier of Allah, executed by firing squad on the front lawn of the White House.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 6:28PM
Define: Political Chess
Even though I define my style of beating up Repugs as Smash Mouth Football, meaning, don't hide your game plan, & still run ruff shot over your opponent. The name I have given to the tactics I use is called Political Chess.
First let me start by defining the game conservatives play, I call it political poker because conservatives spend so much time within their isolated ideology that they really don't know, nor do I think they care or respect what those who disagree with them think, so basically they have to take on riskier rhetoric like white supremacist psychobabble. Their style of politicking is like gambling at the casino, & we all know that if every one was a winner in a casino the casino will sees to exist, yet the conservative rhetoric is risky; we have already seen the end result to their philosophy... Recession.
On the other hand, Political Chess is like playing chess. A person can't be a radical liberal or conservative to win, you have to make best with what you have then use it to force your opponent to give up territory.
Once a great chess player realizes what his or her opposition is doing, the great players mount an opposition that might not look so conservative or liberal.
I want to use a few quotes from the book of Art of War to make my point.
Indirect tactics, efficiently applied, are inexhaustible
as Heaven and Earth, unending as the flow of rivers and streams;
like the sun and moon, they end but to begin anew;
like the four seasons, they pass away to return once more.
7. There are not more than five musical notes,
yet the combinations of these five give rise to more
melodies than can ever be heard.
8. There are not more than five primary colors
(blue, yellow, red, white, and black), yet in combination
they produce more hues than can ever been seen.
9. There are not more than five cardinal tastes
(sour, acrid, salt, sweet, bitter), yet combinations
of them yield more flavors than can ever be tasted.
10. In battle, there are not more than two methods
of attack--the direct and the indirect; yet these two
in combination give rise to an endless series of maneuvers.
11. The direct and the indirect lead on to each other in turn.
It is like moving in a circle--you never come to an end.
Who can exhaust the possibilities of their combination?
12. The onset of troops is like the rush of a torrent
which will even roll stones along in its course.
13. The quality of decision is like the well-timed
swoop of a falcon which enables it to strike and destroy
its victim.
14. Therefore the good fighter will be terrible
in his onset, and prompt in his decision.
The Democratic Party has a chance to gain more power by using all the elements to defeat those who are stuck on only one element, conservatism.
The point I am trying to make is that today's Democratic party should work harder to be more balanced, so they can undermine every tactic the Repugs use, because we know that the old repugnant fogies wing nuts love conservatism, like it really works.
None of the economies in the right-wingers strongholds (Red States) are rendering enough success for them to use to their advantage. In fact, it is my belief that the Republican district in Indiana has the highest unemployment rate in America. The same can be said about our big city liberal districts as well.
We have to understand the desires of the American voters, in order to accomplish our personal goals, not market are personal goals by giving the false impression that it is what the American people want.
Might I add, we have to put in work for the American people as well, or we will be like those old rich & tired azz Repug leaders... CORRUPT.
P.S. Yeah, I know you are there & looking for ways to stop us. That is why O call it Smash Mouth Football.
John II| 11.12.09 @ 6:57PM
Confucius also say, "Selective indignation sign of liberal logophobia."
Bydand76| 11.12.09 @ 11:26PM
Whatever Marcell,
Until Progressive, Socialist, Liberals start to back-track on the past 50 years of open hosility to the American way of life, then you are simply urinating with the wind in your face.
Your logic is convoluted and specious at best. Liberals are guilty of every single thing that you accuse Republicans of yet you will refuse to see it due to the fact that you are blinded by your own bigotry and flawed conclusions.
No matter how much logic I can throw in your ignorant face I will never change your mind.
This goes for me as well. You no matter how hard you try to argue your insane ideology you will never convince of anything other than the fact that I consider you to be a complete knee-biter and a gasbag!
In other words, to put it bluntly,
Shut Up you freakin Moron!
Pro Libertate!
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 6:41PM
So the adherent of the party of perpetual victimhood, of identity politics, of class envy, of perpetual aid, of cut and run military maneuver, of hate crime enhancement because you should be punished for who you are as well as what you do, NOW wants to talk "Smash Mouth Football" and fighting tactics?
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
You never played football, you've never won a fight -let alone started one- and, well, let me borrow from the inestimable Ann Coulter:
You're a fag.
Pete Peterson| 11.12.09 @ 6:47PM
I am almost 75 and I am somewhat home-bound. I have internet and I cruise a great deal. I have looked into a lot of different ideas and things I found by using the Stumbleupon tool bar.
I see the right -wing stuff and I see the
left-wing stuff and I read the posts of both and I am glad that I will not live to see what this country and the world will be like in another 20 years or so. The oceans are becoming over fished and polluted, we depend on oil like there is no end to the supply, we have an educational system that turns out many poorly trained students. The country is so torn by the political system so we can't look at what will happen when the problems are no longer fixable .I see so much hatred and stupidity on the web I try not to look at the posts much. When I was in the Army, training to go to Korea, a man I met who had just come back from combat duty.
He said "I fought for my country but now my country pays me back by telling me I can't drink out of a water fountain unless it says colored"
One man on this posting said the right thing. He said that the politicians had us screaming at each other instead of them fixing things. Anyone can call names and put other people down but to have a solution to a problem and be willing to work for the solution hey- it is easier to dis other people as though only you are really in touch with the truth.The first thing the world must do is to stop wars.How smart is that? Not much.But if the world cannot stop war then we are doomed to extinction.
I think it is getting very late and I hear Charlie Parker in the background..........
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just sayin'| 11.12.09 @ 7:50PM
"...hey- it is easier to dis other people..."
First 74 year-old I ever heard use "dis".
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 6:52PM
Doorgunner:
Understand your message. However, GEN Casey is complicit in the chain of events at Hood because he got his stars agreeing with PC and rose to Chief of Staff by being PC. His statement is an indication of what he really believes as it got him to the position he now holds. As the latest bearer and disseminator of this nonsense, he can't run and hide from legitimate criticism. Remember Harry Truman and the "Buck stops Here" philosophy? When you and I were in the Army, would we have accepted a leader's lame excuse like that? Would you have accepted that from your subordinates? Whether in the'70s (my service) or recently (your service) the ultimate leader has to Lead, Follow, or get the Hell out of the Way!
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 7:29PM
I hear you, and I understand and share your anger. But this strikes me as being akin to an "accident chain"; one that shouldn't have reached up to the General. Hasan should have been dealt with by a unit commander long ago. But, acknowledging your point, Gen Casey has to 'reach down' with clear 'intent' and guidance on the matter.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:08PM
Remember Harry Truman and the "Buck stops Here" philosophy? When you and I were in the Army, would we have accepted a leader's lame excuse like that? Would you have accepted that from your subordinates? Whether in the'70s (my service) or recently (your service) the ultimate leader has to Lead, Follow, or get the Hell out of the Way!
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I am having a hard time believing your perspective after 8 years of watching Bu$h fight the war on terrorist, not terror, bass ackwards & most conservatives cheer leading for him.
The American people forced you & those wing-nut friends of yours to Change the course in Iraq, yet many of you want to give the credit to the guy, Bu$h & the Conservatives we disposed of back in 2006.
Patsie| 11.16.09 @ 2:03AM
First time we've been hit since 9/11, and it happened on Turd Obama's watch. You're both pieces of sh!t, Marcell/Jeremiah/ Lib Reader. Losers, too.
Cpm| 11.12.09 @ 7:19PM
Marcell, how do you explain those Blue-state strongholds, California, New York, and Illinois chief among them, that are teetering on bankruptcy? Checkmate dumbass....
KarlinPhoenix| 11.12.09 @ 7:22PM
This is Islam. Islam is the repackaged (by Muhammad) worship of PAGAN stone idols in Saudi Arabia. This cult has the "warmth" of a hungry Komodo Dragon.
Look at this site and think about it: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
Here is the "Conclusion" of the information page:
"The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc."
"The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel. moongod.htm"
Americans should be free from the worry that any of these primitive, pagan Moon-God worshipers will "GO JIHADI" and spontaneously and rapidly begin killing us. The time has come to stop all Islamic immigration from the Middle East and Africa; they are not coming to America to be Americans, instead, they come to expand Islam.
Our lives as "free" Americans is changing. As Islam continues to grow and our spineless government bows-down to these violent worshipers of stone gods, so Americans will not "offend" any of these murderous bullies. It is hard to believe ours is the same government that "won" WW2. America is a "tolerant" society but we do not have to tolerate this brutish ideology of Islam that seeks to conquer America. In the immortal words of Nancy Reagan, "Just say "NO!" to Islam".
If our current government will do nothing to protect America, it is time to remove the PROGRESSIVES in the House and Senate next November. FIRE THEM IN 20-10!
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:28PM
I live in California, & the Republican Party is so right-wing & crazy that most Californians refuse to vote for them, so the Democrats can mess up all they want, & I hate it.
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 7:33PM
We're shocked, just shocked I tell you, to find out that you live in California.
Although, we're all also fairly certain that you don't live in Maxine Waters' district... and that you don't get the joke.
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 7:33PM
Marcell:
Since you obviously know nothing about counter-insurgency or war in general, each conflict is as different from previous efforts as night is from day. Considering the Rules of Engagement that our guys use in SW Asia, it could be a wonder that we've been as successful as we've been. We're so concerned about eliminating civilian casualties and damage, in general, that our troops on the Line are STILL handing it to the Moslem terrorists every day and George Bush set the table for our success. Your non-serving ilk want absolute perfection on the battlefield and forgetting, if you ever knew, that War is the most awful thing we humans do well. When and if we have to fight these ragheads here, I'll wait to hear your anguished cry for rescue. Maybe a Soldier or Marine will come to your aid. Otherwise, die like a Man, if you can.
Patsy| 11.16.09 @ 2:05AM
How can a piece of sh!t live OR die like a man? It's a liberal and it's a coward.
Pingback| 11.12.09 @ 7:36PM
The American Spectator : Treachery as Lifestyle Choice | Germany today links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:40PM
"The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel. moongod.htm"
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Seems like we need the PC police on this one.
This is not the Bu$h Doctrine | 11.12.09 @ 7:45PM
To Richard Baker
II. WAGING WAR
1. Sun Tzu said: In the operations of war,
where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots,
as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand
mail-clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them
a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front,
including entertainment of guests, small items such as
glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor,
will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day.
Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.
2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory
is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and
their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town,
you will exhaust your strength.
3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources
of the State will not be equal to the strain.
4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped,
your strength exhausted and your treasure spent,
other chieftains will spring up to take advantage
of your extremity. Then no man, however wise,
will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.
5. Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war,
cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.
6. There is no instance of a country having benefited
from prolonged warfare.
7. It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted
with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand
the profitable way of carrying it on.
8. The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy,
neither are his supply-wagons loaded more than twice.
9. Bring war material with you from home, but forage
on the enemy. Thus the army will have food enough
for its needs.
10. Poverty of the State exchequer causes an army
to be maintained by contributions from a distance.
Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes
the people to be impoverished.
11. On the other hand, the proximity of an army causes
prices to go up; and high prices cause the people's
substance to be drained away.
12. When their substance is drained away, the peasantry
will be afflicted by heavy exactions.
13,14. With this loss of substance and exhaustion
of strength, the homes of the people will be stripped bare,
and three-tenths of their income will be dissipated;
while government expenses for broken chariots, worn-out horses,
breast-plates and helmets, bows and arrows, spears and shields,
protective mantles, draught-oxen and heavy wagons,
will amount to four-tenths of its total revenue.
15. Hence a wise general makes a point of foraging
on the enemy. One cartload of the enemy's provisions
is equivalent to twenty of one's own, and likewise
a single picul of his provender is equivalent to twenty
from one's own store.
16. Now in order to kill the enemy, our men must
be roused to anger; that there may be advantage from
defeating the enemy, they must have their rewards.
17. Therefore in chariot fighting, when ten or more chariots
have been taken, those should be rewarded who took the first.
Our own flags should be substituted for those of the enemy,
and the chariots mingled and used in conjunction with ours.
The captured soldiers should be kindly treated and kept.
18. This is called, using the conquered foe to augment
one's own strength.
19. In war, then, let your great object be victory,
not lengthy campaigns.
20. Thus it may be known that the leader of armies
is the arbiter of the people's fate, the man on whom it
depends whether the nation shall be in peace or in peril.
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 7:52PM
So, Marcell, what you're saying is that sum of your warfare experience is in the 'cut-and-paste' theater?
Jackass.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:54PM
The same as Ru$h & Hannutty.
Patsy| 11.16.09 @ 2:07AM
I told you Marcell is Lib Reader. You're a major asshole, LR/Jeremiah--go screw yourself, loser fairy. And you don't live in California, either, libtard. Liar.
Liberal Reader| 11.12.09 @ 7:55PM
Actually, if current reporting is true, Hasan was acting strangely enough to attract attention when GEORGE BUSH was president.
In fact, it seems like the FBI opened a file on Hasan but did not notify then Army while BUSH was president.
Maybe this shooting is Bush's fault, after all.
Well -- of course not.
Clearly the Army has to work on some seriously problems; clearly Hasan was a very bad man.
However, the leap you all seem so eager to make is bad too: Muslim's in the military serve their country and deserve respect. In addition, and more importantly, Muslims are important to our mission in Muslim countries. The fact that so many of you seem incapable of grasping this fact is really scary.
John II| 11.12.09 @ 8:18PM
Confucius also say, "Logophobe often leap to conclusion attributed by same to opponent."
Disgusted | 11.12.09 @ 7:58PM
This jerk didn't kill 13 people. He killed 14 people...1 of the victims was a pregnant woman.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 7:59PM
Actually, if current reporting is true, Hasan was acting strangely enough to attract attention when GEORGE BUSH was president.
In fact, it seems like the FBI opened a file on Hasan but did not notify then Army while BUSH was president.
Maybe this shooting is Bush's fault, after all.
Well -- of course not.
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To bad you are not like the Repugs. We know they wouldn't have came to the same conclusions with that info.
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 8:03PM
Actually, if current reporting is true, Hasan was acting strangely enough to attract attention when Husan Obama was president.
In fact, it seems like the FBI opened a file on Hasan but did not notify then Army while Husan was president.
Maybe this shooting is Obama's fault, after all.
Well -- of course not. Scratch that &throw; the bumbs out of office.
John II| 11.12.09 @ 8:13PM
Confucius also say, "Defensive stance good for merchant and farmer and parent; bad for warrior."
Nick| 11.12.09 @ 8:41PM
John II,
I guess you didn't see my entry for your semantic sentence contest:
Bill Clinton rapes women.
Like it?
When Bubba the Pervert was disgracing the Office of the Presidency, I had my own version of an old lawyer joke:
"How do you know when Clinton is lying? When he's breathing, that's how."
John II| 11.12.09 @ 9:24PM
Yes--I liked it a lot, better than any of my preliminary examples, but there weren't many takers. I have to try to get a better handle on this contest-starting business.
By the way, I wanted to follow up on Melvin's terrific comments, with a story that his comments brought to mind. My own two-year stint in the Army was during the Vietnam years and the military draft, when I got my ass drafted out of graduate school. (The 2-S deferments were only good for the undergraduate years, unless you were in medical school.)
I remember very distinctly during basic training, when we were marching about four miles back from a particularly grueling and tedious day on the rifle range, thinking to myself: "How in the hell did you get yourself into THIS? You're just a dip-shit scholar, not a soldier--you're not really qualified for any of this. What the hell's the matter with you, getting into something like this?"
Then, suddenly, a wave of cozy warmth and comfort came over me with the recollection that I'd been drafted: none of it was my fault or my responsibility.
Now--don't get me wrong. My experience in the Army turned out to be among the best and most useful and decisive I've ever had--not too far below getting married and raising a family later. But I always remember that moment of cozy comfort with some dread, for it was the strongest direct impression I've ever had of how eager we are to relinquish responsibility--and therefore, fast-forward, of how dangerous the Obamanation is to the moral health of the citizenry.
Melvin is right on the mark. We see things MUCH differently when we know that the responsibility is ours and not someone else's.
And now back to my current preoccupation with old Charlie Chan movies. Confucius say, "Man without responsibility is like tree without roots; passing winds hard on same."
Nick| 11.12.09 @ 8:16PM
Did everyone see how B.O. was giving "shout-outs" to his homeys while brave Americans were fighting for their lives last Thursday?
A week later, President Dither is doing photo-ops at an Alaskan Air Force Base, forcing airmen to be props behind him, to show "he cares about the troops."
Axelrod must have gotten the latest poll showing how poorly he's doing on all things MILITARY. "Quick, get him in front of some troops!"
And liberals are in full bleeding heart mode, trying to excuse Hasan the Terrorist's murderous rampage. "He was picked on for being Moslem, he's a victim!"
(Sigh)
If only we lived in the days when you could tar and feather people.
Liberal Reader| 11.13.09 @ 12:33AM
Nick,
Name me one reporter or commentator who said Hasan was a victim. Just one.
You can't, because no one did.
What you're doing here is LYING.
I think it's pretty clear you're a bigot; you are a hate filled bigot, and for someone who claims so often to be a Catholic, that is surprising.
Nick| 11.13.09 @ 1:13AM
Marxist Reader/Foul-Mouthed Mr. Hyde,
Those are figurative quotes around a paraphrase, get it. This is the gist of the coverage from the liberal MSM.
I don't claim to be a Catholic, I am a Roman Catholic. And I believe everything the Church teaches about Faith and Morals. Which means I'm tolerant of many faiths. It also means I can't be a socialist.
Again, when were you in the Army? Which units? What was your MOS?
John II| 11.13.09 @ 10:13AM
Confucius also say, "Attempt to name one logophobe using term 'hate filled bigot' like attempt to find water in ocean."
Nick| 11.13.09 @ 10:42AM
As is dutifully being reported on CNN's liberal, drive-by media website: Hasan the Terrorist is paralyzed and has.....PAIN IN HIS HANDS!!!!
"Oh noooo! The poor, picked-on Moslem is now handicapped. He is a VICTIM!!"
Marcell| 11.12.09 @ 8:35PM
Obama talks specifics for job creation
Now all we have to do is take the high road & leave you conservatives the repugnant low road.
Nov. 12: Mayor of Lansing, Michigan Virg Bernero discusses President Barack Obama's plan to host a job summit to address the high unemployment rate.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22.....5#33897535
Doorgunner| 11.12.09 @ 8:59PM
Maybe while he's there he can inspire those brave UAW folks to stay strong in trying to destroy billion-dollar-profit last quarter FoMoCo while GM and Chrysler circle the drain. There's a bold jobs move right there, Sparky!
Jeebus, you're a jackass.
Define Corrupt| 11.12.09 @ 8:46PM
And liberals are in full bleeding heart mode, trying to excuse Hasan the Terrorist's murderous rampage. "He was picked on for being Moslem, he's a victim!"
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Fort Hood, an act of terrorism?
Nov. 12: Msnbc's Ed Schultz speaks with Mother Jones Magazine's David Corn and former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt about whether Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan should be charged with terrorism along with the 13 accounts of premeditated murder bestowed on him Thursday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22.....4#33897344
GW| 11.12.09 @ 8:57PM
Bring back public executions. Hang this guy in front of the country and the world to show we are serious and don't f*ck around with the lives of our soldiers.
Savy Media| 11.12.09 @ 9:12PM
How do you fight Muslim Sharia extremism when your leader is a Muslim? Also, we will never attack Iran and their nukes with the rationalizing, diversity loving elites that dominate our country today.
Jeremiah Whitmoore | 11.12.09 @ 10:37PM
There is no conservative movement in America. That the author, a supposed "conservative", describes our post-Christian nihilistic society as "PC" speaks volumes about the futility of the movement.
Dan| 11.12.09 @ 11:23PM
Americans voted to put an America hating, closet Muslim, marxist, community organizer into the highest office in the world. By the time he and the current congress are out of office America will never be the same. Our military will be second rate, our healthcare system will be on the level of Cuba and our grand children will be trying, unsuccessfully, to pay off the debt Obama and this congress has saddled them with. So stop calling each other names and try to find ways to stop this madness before it is to late
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.13.09 @ 12:13AM
Dan,
thank you. Good sumation!
Except you are mistaken. We will kick their arses to kingdom come.
Standfirm!
Marcell| 11.13.09 @ 3:32AM
I remember very distinctly during basic training, when we were marching about four miles back from a particularly grueling and tedious day on the rifle range, thinking to myself: "How in the hell did you get yourself into THIS? You're just a dip-shit scholar, not a soldier--you're not really qualified for any of this. What the hell's the matter with you, getting into something like this?"
Then, suddenly, a wave of cozy warmth and comfort came over me with the recollection that I'd been drafted: none of it was my fault or my responsibility.
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ROTFLMAO!!
John II| 11.13.09 @ 10:18AM
Confucius also say, "Logophobe often describe self with term like 'hate-filled bigot'."
No More PC | 11.13.09 @ 4:34AM
Americans voted to put an America hating, closet Muslim, marxist, community organizer into the highest office in the world. By the time he and the current congress are out of office America will never be the same. Our military will be second rate, our healthcare system will be on the level of Cuba and our grand children will be trying, unsuccessfully, to pay off the debt Obama and this congress has saddled them with. So stop calling each other names and try to find ways to stop this madness before it is to late.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
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Note: The link is connected to his statement. I put it there to make believe that old Tex is the person in the link; it's just a joke.
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Now you see why I ask for so much money
$,$$$,$$$
... Flash back!!"
Black Cell Vs. Frank Luntz's
Who is winning the health care debate?
By Black Cell
Barack Obama is handily winning the early rounds of that debate, because he is controlling the most important aspect of the debate, & that is its cost.
While the president is hoping that he could convince voters to agree with his massive overhaul of the U.S. health care system by offering cuts to Medicare & Medicaid, the Republican focus seem to be all over the map as they tout a list of reasons to be against the different plans championed by Democrats.
What seems to be the focal point within the Republicans perspective is that they fear the government taking over the healthcare industry. The issues concerning the sky rocketing cost of healthcare doesn't seem to be a major issue to them.
But the rising cost of health care & the rising numbers of uninsured is fueling the debate surrounding that issue, & not the question should we allow the federal government the power to eventually take over that industry.
Its rising cost has forced many Americans to struggle to pay their medical bills. Employees are more & more complaining that they cannot afford high premiums for health insurance. Employers are cutting back or eliminating health benefits. Even state and federal governments are struggling to afford the rising cost of public programs like Medicaid and Medicare.
So, why should we buy into the typical rhetoric by politicians that claim they can save us more money by putting the burden of the sky rocketing cost on the tax payers back?
Even though I agree with the fact that the federal government will eventually take sole control over healthcare cost because businesses will eventually opt out of healthcare & force their employees to receive the Federal governments healthcare for financial reasons, I believe the real issue is that what President Obama is trying to offer, lower cost healthcare, can't be accomplished by the feds eventually taking over that industry.
I believe that the large number of U.S citizens who are uninsured & the even larger number of elderly who are receiving private care, along with the potentially large numbers of employers shifting their employees to the government programs will eventually overwhelm the federal government & force taxes to have to be raised or eventually the quality of healthcare will drop.
While Democrats are using their pull with the media to market how businesses (specifically small businesses) are struggling to pay for rising medical cost, Republicans could be using the same information to point out that if many of those businesses had the option to dump their healthcare cost onto the federal government there is a likely hood that they would.
How does the federal government taken over those businesses healthcare costs lower the over all cost in general?
President Obama says by creating more competition, but the reality is that the only thing would be happening is that businesses would be only shifting their burden onto the taxpayers.
Maybe the Republicans should be attempting to force Democrats to explain why the existing government ran healthcare programs Medicare & Medicaid are struggling, & conclude that Democrats should be solving those problems before taking on such projects as what ever version of universal healthcare they are marketing.
I am hoping that the Republicans start to focus more on the rising cost of healthcare & how the burden will be solely put on the backs of the tax payers if President Obama's plan is enacted.
I believe our President is fighting a noble cause, but it is one that the private industry can't solve, so why put that burden on the rest of us?
Here are two videos showing how weak the republicans look in this debate. That could be changed if they fight Obama on the issue he is trying to champion.
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Appearing on CBS' Face The Nation Sunday, McConnell told host Bob Schieffer that Mr. Obama's plan for a government health insurance plan would essentially crowd out other insurers from the private market, eliminating competition.
BOOM!!
MINORITY WHIP REP. ERIC CANTOR (R-VA)
Thursday
Rep. Cantor (R-VA) discussed this week's major events in Congress, including the status of health care legislation and the energy/climate change bill, the situation in Iran, and the day's major news events. Rep. Cantor detailed the House Republicans' agenda after the July 4th recess.
Washington, DC : 27 min.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Me.....ity+Whi...
sted on May 7, 2009
Black Cell: Frank Luntz's "The Language of Healthcare 2009"
THE LANGUAGE OF HEALTHCARE 2009
By Dr. Frank I. Luntz
This document is based on polling results and Instant Response dial sessions conducted in April 2009. It captures not just what Americans want to see but exactly what they want to hear. The Words That Work boxes that follow are already being used by a few Congressional and Senatorial Republicans. From today forward, they should be used by everyone.
You simply MUST be vocally and passionately on the side of reform. The status quo is no longer acceptable. If the dynamic becomes “President Obama is on the side of reform and Republicans are against it,” then the battle is lost and every word in this document is useless. Republicans must be for the right kind of reform that protects the quality of healthcare for all Americans. And you must establish your support of reform early in your presentation.
THE 10 RULES FOR STOPPING THE “WASHINGTON TAKEOVER” OF HEALTHCARE
(1) Humanize your approach.
(2) Acknowledge the “crisis” or suffer the consequences.
(3) “Time” is the government healthcare killer.
(4) The arguments against the Democrats’ healthcare plan must center around “politicians,” “bureaucrats,” and “Washington” … not the free market, tax incentives, or competition.
(5) The healthcare denial horror stories from Canada & Co. do resonate, but you have to humanize them.
(6) Healthcare quality = “getting the treatment you need, when you need it.”
7) “One-size-does-NOT-fit-all.”
Marcell| 11.13.09 @ 4:45AM
Here are two (now one) videos showing how weak the republicans look in this debate. That could be changed if they fight Obama on the issue he is trying to champion.
P.S. Ol Tex, " Making friends with the teleprompter as a great idea I must say."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2.....7389.shtml
Patsy| 11.16.09 @ 2:11AM
We're gonna kick your stupid ass in 2010, loser. Employment at 10.2% and rising--you libturds are toast.
Richard Baker| 11.13.09 @ 9:49AM
Sun Tzu, von Clausewitz, and all the other classic war theorists are a guide to how to think about solving problems now, they are not the last and only word. Call them a reference, if you will, but the leader on the battlefield is not bound by the advice, while good, from the past. As an example, mechanized operations took much from the old Horse Cavalry units regarding mobility and scouting but created much more than those Horse Soldiers did. Isaac Newton said, "If I can see far, it's because I'm standing on the shoulders of giants." No one has all the answers for war, adaptation is demanded.
Richard Baker| 11.13.09 @ 10:16AM
The writer above who went on and on regarding Sun Tzu sounds like just another armchair non-serving soldier who thinks that the military is a job just like any other and so merely requires an academic approach. To that I'd say: Tell me, other than Police and Firemen, what person is going to give their life for good old IBM or their company as a regular possibility in their daily working life? I'd be curious what the book soldiers think.
Ray| 11.13.09 @ 1:02PM
How did someone who posted Jehad material on his private website ever get a Security clearance?
I served in the Army during the Reagan years and I had to undergo a security clearance background check every year, just to get the clearance necessary to work on the cobra helicopters as part of my MOS!
This man should have required at least the same level of clearance our mechanics require, yet he was issued a clearance I never would have received if I acted as he did.
This is an example of what happens when "diversity" replaces the need for security. This man should have never received a security clearance. He was a definite threat.
John II| 11.14.09 @ 11:20AM
Well, let's cut to the chase. How did OBAMA ever get a security clearance? No one else with his background and associates could have received a pass to the lowest level of such clearance.
Confucius say, "Culture bent on self-destruction not particular about details."
Patsy| 11.16.09 @ 2:15AM
Hasan mingled in the same political organizations as Obama--no wonder the Loser in Chief is trying to bully the congress into stopping its investigation of the Fort Hood Islamic terrorist. Bastard.
Pingback| 11.13.09 @ 5:53PM
Borderblog: Senior Wellness | Senior Health Wisdom links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Moosa Khan| 11.30.09 @ 1:25PM
I had asked one question on the same site:
http://spectator.org/archives/.....e-believer
Let me ask this again lets see how many of you can answer!
"On April 19, 1995, at 902 A. M the serenity of America's heartland was destroyed when a massive explosion levelled one side of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, and the threat of terrorism shocked the American nation. Damage from the blast covered many city blocks; more than 169 men, women, and children were killed and estimates range from 500 to 600 were injured. Hours later, Timothy McVeigh would be charged with the crime. "
Why isn't Tim McVeigh's religion addressed anywhere for this brutal act? Why only Islam?
I can provide many more such attacks, but you all come back with an answer! Don't hide yourself.
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