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The Current Crisis
Everything's Just Fine
WASHINGTON -- Allow me a word of encouragement to our president. Mr. Obama, you are doing just fine. You wanted to set a new tone in Washington, and you have. You wanted an open debate on healthcare, and you have it. Admittedly, the tone is astoundingly rancorous, and not incidentally your approval ratings continue to decline. Then too, support for your healthcare reform is dropping, especially among independents. Yet I believe you can take heart. You have roused the interest of the American people in you, the Democratic Party, the Congress, and healthcare. That is good news, at least for us conservatives. Again, you are doing fine. Ever larger numbers of Americans are alarmed by you, your party, the Congress, and your healthcare monstrosity. Mr. President, you are doing fine. Keep it up. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
Truth be known, what else were we to expect from the new administration? In the Senate our president was the most left-wing member by a lot. That is a fact, clearly visible to those who followed his voting record. He is also the least experienced major-party presidential candidate in over a century. As for his experience before he entered upon his brief political career, he has never been in the private sector where he might have gained knowledge about profit margins, the difficulty of maintaining a workforce, or the burden of even a slight tax increase. His sole experience has been a fleeting period teaching law and the anomalous experience of being a community organizer, that is to say, a rabble-rouser who organizes needy people to pester governments and corporations for cash or services.
This campaign for healthcare reform has been an ongoing chaos. From all I have been able to tell, the Obama White House is a chaos too. The other day I heard of a highly placed White House staffer, with glittering credentials, who sits in a cubicle answering 300-400 urgent e-mails a day. That only reinforces the reports that this White House is nearing a state of "burn out." The word circulating about the Democrats is that they are "desperate" over the state of the Obama healthcare plan. They have reason to be and my guess is that things will get much worse. Democrats, what were you thinking of when you nominated the most left-wing and inexperienced candidate in the 2008 Democratic field?
Out on the campaign trail where the Prophet Obama is thumping for healthcare reform, he should be very much at ease. Campaigning is the one aspect of politics he does well. But here too we see desperation. The other day he accused his critics of engaging in "scare tactics." He objects to their claim that the bill is exorbitant, though that claim is reinforced by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) that puts the price tag at over a trillion dollars. He says he will shave off $500 billion from that sum by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse, though the CBO estimates the savings at only 1% of the trillion dollar cost increase. He says his reforms will not fall heavily on the elderly or the disabled, though his own healthcare advisors have written that reforms should fall heavily on these groups. We can quote them. Call it smear tactics if you will.
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, who is health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of the Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research as well as being White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's brother, propounds discrimination against the elderly and other less than robust patients. In the medical journal Lancet he wrote in January, "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious [an irrelevancy] discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years." As for the less than robust, in a Hastings Center Report he has written, that medical care be withheld from those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens….An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia." Thus the state should decide when and if you get treatment. Does that not have a grisly ring to it?
Dr. Emanuel veers from the grisly to the delightfully frivolous in his pontifications on cost cuts. Savor this one from the Journal of the American Medical Association in May of 2007: "Too much money spent on health care reduced [sic] the ability to obtain other essentials of human life as well as some goods and services not essential to life but still of great value, such as education, vacations, and the arts." Yes, he said "vacations and the arts." So once we have Obamacare, and you are sitting around waiting for a hip replacement or a CAT scan, remember that tax revenues are being better spent on vacations or perhaps the performance art of that lady who smothers chocolate on her naked body. On second thought, she may be sitting nearby also awaiting a hip replacement. Remember, chocolate stains.
Bob Tyrrell is founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. His books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn't Work: Social Democracy's Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; and The Clinton Crack-Up.
He makes frequent appearance on national television and is a nationally syndicated columnist, whose articles have appeared in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Baltimore Sun, Washington Times, National Review, Harper's, Commentary, The (London) Spectator, Le Figaro (Paris), and elsewhere.
Bob is also an adjunct fellow of the Hudson Institute and a contributing editor to the New York Sun.
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Robert Rosencrans| 8.13.09 @ 6:33AM
Your tongue in cheek article belies the fact that it is the American public that is doing well. The internet opened up the information faucet and lies by inglorious bastards like Obama are crushed within 24 hours.
This renders left speak state run news organizations gasping for air as their spin cycles after the news events are shut down as the truth fires out over the internet.
If anyone is doing well it's the American public who have arisen as one to speak out against a proposed health gulag called the public option.
Robert Rosencrans| 8.13.09 @ 6:33AM
Your tongue in cheek article belies the fact that it is the American public that is doing well. The internet opened up the information faucet and lies by inglorious bastards like Obama are crushed within 24 hours.
This renders left speak state run news organizations gasping for air as their spin cycles after the news events are shut down as the truth fires out over the internet.
If anyone is doing well it's the American public who have arisen as one to speak out against a proposed health gulag called the public option.
Rocco| 8.13.09 @ 7:00AM
As Napoleon once said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
Mr. Rosencrans' post is right on!
Appleby| 8.13.09 @ 7:12AM
That is what happens when you let the kids run the candy store.
King Zero is a very familiar sight to anyone who has ever dropped into the grocery store after work and stood in line behind exhausted mothers with screaming toddlers coming home from daycare.
Robert| 8.13.09 @ 7:27AM
Both of my parents suffered with Demetia. I would have wanted this president to spend one day with them. I may be wrong about this but I think the last person I read about who weeded the nonproductive from society was Joseph Stalin (sigh)
JAY| 8.13.09 @ 8:03AM
Medical science has several promising cures for dementia in testing now. If Obamacare passes, how will the bureaucracy treat these disruptive cures? They will treat them the way bureaucrats always treat anything that would suggest they change.
jack| 8.13.09 @ 8:13AM
What did we expect? Its all he knows. He has never had a real job and the few in his cabinet and inner circle who have had jobs have been either incompetent or corrupt,and in many cases both. He was rarely present when he was in the senate and appears clueless on how to lead. He is a chicago thug bully who believes capitalism is bad and America is evil because it was founded by slave owners,just like Rev Wright. We all knew this before he was elected by the media protected him and never challenged him. Now we see under pressure he folds up like a cheap suit. He can rarely put a thought into words without a teleprompter or script and appears clueless on US and World history as well as basic economics. obama is proof the US educational system is in crisis.
Jessica Carlson| 8.13.09 @ 8:14AM
Perhaps this state of chaos you mention has to do with the fact that masses of people have been spoon fed information saying Obama is going to kill their grandmother and turn this country into a communist nation, where you'll have to wait in line for bread and beer and the whole lot. Tell me, where exactly in HR 3200 does it say that? How is that not scare tactics?
Also, I wouldn't be so crass about the community organizers you call "rabble-rousers." If the "needy" don't "pester" their government, who will do it for them?
mickeymat| 8.13.09 @ 8:24AM
Withholding treatment for Dementia patients will halt research on cures. With all new treatments it is imperative that they be administered in order to ascertain their effectiveness. The proposed health care system will halt this progress. Research will be chanelled to the younger ages and seniors will be left with no addressing of their ailments. I think there is a huge disconnect here in terms of demographics. The boomers are entering seniorhood and they vote. What a blunder.
JP| 8.13.09 @ 8:48AM
Jessica,
You are either niave or just a Democratic Troll. All versions of this bill (yes, there is more than one version even though most quote from the House Bill) require a National Health Care Board. The Senate's version, which is still in committe, would be an extra-government insitutiion tasked with ensuring that ObamaCare doesn't go bankrupt. Since only Congress can raise taxes, the only powers this board can effect is to cut (or as many say, ration) services. Like the House Bill, there will be an established permanent bureaucracy that will do a cost-benefit analysis of every patient. They will be the ones who determine what kind (if any) of health care you receive. Use your imagination, and think of Obama's grandmother when she had cancer and also needed a hip replacement. The elderly should be worried. As should the disabled, and parents of mentally handicapped children. It isn't conservatives who are scaring the people, but the Democrats own words.
Sam Techno| 8.13.09 @ 9:03AM
And, Jessica, the "pestering" only benefits the "organizer", who becomes more and more powerful and rich, and somehow the poor are always with us. Obama is going to be a billionaire when he leaves office, yet I don't think he had 20 bucks for his half brother or aunt living in poverty. If you want to help the poor and powerless, that's great, but don't think people like obama are going to.
danny| 8.13.09 @ 9:13AM
jessica, what would be wrong with the so called needy helping themselves ? maybe by getting a job. just asking.
Papa Ray| 8.13.09 @ 9:32AM
No doubt that there is a lot of disinformation out there, fed by the perspective of the person reading or writing about a a bill (house bill or senate) that has vague language and loopholes big enough to fly a 747 through.
But the one thing that is not vague is the disrespect and disdain that the members of congress and the president have shown to the American public over the last eight months.
It has become apparent that congress and the president view themselves as the masters of a people that are stupid and don't know what they want or need. Well, it should be no big surprise that pisses Americans off because they know that the president and congress are supposed to be working for the American people and working to protect and preserve not only our freedoms but to limit government control instead of increasing it.
And American's know that they are not stupid peasants who need (or want) a bigger more intrusive government.
I'm afraid that it is congress and the president and his backers are the ones who just don't understand or if they do- are actively working against America and Americans.
Just as our Founders told us could happen.
Papa Ray
West Texas
Bilwick| 8.13.09 @ 9:36AM
Jessica, the day is still young, but as of now you're probably the odds-on favorite to win American Spectator's "Naif of the Day" award. The prize will be a copy of Faustino Ballve's FUNDAMENTALS OF ECONOMICS and Aristotle's LOGIC, two books no fan of "Il Dufe" and his policies should be without.
Pingback| 8.13.09 @ 9:41AM
Stay the course, Mr. President | Worth Reading links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
R Martin| 8.13.09 @ 9:42AM
Criticism of the Democrats' leftist health care proposals has largely focused on the abomination that the health care industry would become. Fair enough, but inadequate attention has been paid to the financial side. Remember, the health care proposals we're now fighting do not stand alone among sweeping changes this administration is pushing. Others include energy policy, stimulus, taxation and, soon enough, immigration. Taken together they represent a staggering cost which cannot be covered by existing sources of government revenue. Taxing whoever they deem to be rich will not do it either. They are setting us up for a structural change in government revenues which will almost certainly involve a value added tax. VAT is the hideous device used throughout Europe to support socialized government programs. Its intended use in America must be exposed and opposed.
Shamus| 8.13.09 @ 10:05AM
Bill Frist says that a health care bill will be put through the Senate with 50 votes (plus Biden). This would not surprise me.
dcd| 8.13.09 @ 10:07AM
maybe Obama will pull a Palin and quit after next year when the job seems like too much of a hassle
L. Banks| 8.13.09 @ 10:18AM
This was a well-written article. There is another side of the Obama Healthcare disaster plan and that is the doctors, nurses and other medical staff. We are currently only creating enough doctors to replace the ones retiring. With the Obama plan to add 45 million and probably more, where will the doctors come from. It takes years - 8 years for education and then residency which can be as much as 10 years depending on the specialization. With the rush to push out doctors we will have less specialists. The nation is already short nurses and if the plan is enacted, there will be even a greater shortage. So what does this mean...less to take care of more patients which translates to "rationing" care. With the people Obama has surrounded himself with and their obvious writings and opinions and the people they admire...we are all in trouble and not just grandma. If you develop a serious illness that will eat up "resources" you may be denied and counciled to take a pill. This bill is full of ways for the government to control your life. As for the needy, having worked in social services for years giving people things is not the answer. Besides a healthcare plan can be put in place to cover those with no resources without disturbing the present system. Remember you cannot elevate someone to another level of understanding through money or because you think it will be best for them. It is like love, you cannot make someone love you...they have to do it on their own because then they have this realization at all levels and will be lasting and not just at the material level.
Louis Jenkins| 8.13.09 @ 10:26AM
"But the one thing that is not vague is the disrespect and disdain that the members of congress and the president have shown to the American public over the last eight months. "
Dear Papa Ray:
That's the part that really gets my goat. Those people treat the American Citizen-Taxpayer like dirt. They believe that we have pockets so deep that they go all the way to China, and are filled to capacity with bullion, jewels, and cash. Then the high browed leaders act like we're children who do not know our left from our right. However, we do know the Left when we see it. If anyone has not read the bill, look up H.R. 3200 on a search engine. You'll have to change your pants when you're finished.
Neo| 8.13.09 @ 10:32AM
He says he will shave off $500 billion from that sum by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse
The point that Obama misses here is not the obvious (it's been tried before) but considering that there isn't any one "evil" healthcare provider or insurer that is walking away with that $500 billion (or even a small group), that $500 billion must represent tens of thousands of jobs ... jobs that will be replaced by what ? ... federal bureaucrats earning what and with what pension ?
Pete| 8.13.09 @ 11:07AM
The scariest part is the inevitable drain on doctor talent. Lowering/equalizing pay in the name of "controlling costs" will cause many fewer people to choose to endure the schooling/cost necessary to become a doctor. Personally, I draw quite a bit of comfort from the fact that most doctors have had to work their assess off to get to where they are and don't begrudge them their earnings one bit if they are competent at what they do. Can you imagine an army of un/demotivated gubmint doctors, who have no incentive to keep learning, to strive to be the best in their field? That is terrifying. My guess is that the best doctors (until they eventually die off) will move offshore and be a resource for the very rich - they will have no other choice.
Tim| 8.13.09 @ 11:35AM
We need national law insurance, all lawers to be paid the same salary from a pool of "reasonable" fees. We should define where 90% of legal costs are incurred, and then ration that activity. The Doctors would be all for it.
Michael Tomlinson| 8.13.09 @ 11:36AM
"Democrats, what were you thinking of when you nominated the most left-wing and inexperienced candidate in the 2008 Democratic field?" They nominated someone who reflects their utter contempt for the American people, the Constitution and our country. In a nutshell the perfect DemocRAT.
Pete| 8.13.09 @ 11:43AM
Tim,
I like it...after all, it is a basic human right to have legal counsel just like healthcare. Can you imagine the outcry? Maybe it would drain the legal talent pool enough so that elections could no longer be stolen in the courts....
lyn| 8.13.09 @ 11:51AM
We need to protect the most vunerable among us and continue to respect the dignity of the human person. Just imagine how awful the world would be if we follow Ezekial Emmanuel's rationing theory and give preference to 15-40 year olds over the old and the young as well as diregard those who aren't productives (dementia patients, young children, ....). Who is going to look in their eyes, care for them, and hold their hands as they are left to die? Who is going to explain to them what is happening to them when they are denied help and may not understand? Will the young and strong feel any compassion when they get care over the needs of their parents or younger siblings? I think one would have to kill his or her conscience in order to look in the mirror if they receive care at the expense of the most vulnerable. New motto: Young and Strong be selfish for the Common Good.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com| 8.13.09 @ 12:03PM
Just some short notes:
1) Monday I had a doctor’s appointment to follow up on her treatment for a knee injury. She decided, without having to check with an obumocrat first, that I needed an MRI. I called the imaging center that afternoon, but was unable to get an appointment until 7 the very next morning. Upon arriving, the receptionist and the technician went out of their way to ensure that I was comfortable throughout the procedure. I’m certainly thrilled that once Il Dufe (thanks! Bilwick, I really like this appropriate term) fixes healthtcare, I will no longer be subjected to such treatment.
2) Papa Ray (West Texas), isn’t one of Texas’ con-gressional delegation the same who during a recent Town Hall took calls on her cell phone while being asked a question? Talk about rude, but yet somehow fitting behavior for a member of our ruling class.
3) Jessica, exactly what about being a community organizer qualifies a person to run anything other than his mouth?
4) L. Banks, I’d like to add to your excellent post that a fine young man who has been one of my son’s best friends since they were both knee high to a grasshopper is currently in medical school. He has a tremendous amount of debt piled up from student loans and the like. If he peaks into the obumah crystal ball and notices that with government price control, he will never be able to pay off that debt, he might be inclined to drop out or take his skills elsewhere, someplace that appreciates people who can actually do things.
5) dcd, if obumah quits, Biden moves in. Shelly will never allow this.
6) All, Keep fighting the good fight. Our predecessors at Concord did not face an enemy so vile or evil.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Don’t Tread on Me!!
Mike| 8.13.09 @ 12:21PM
I think the real scary thing that's going on is shipping in buss loads of union thugs to intimidate people, we have a right to ask tough questions of our politicians and the democrats could care less, they leave there constituents outside and bring in the union, what kind of American would do that?
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com| 8.13.09 @ 12:33PM
I just saw this posted on a radio station website. http://www.wjpf.com/Blue-Cross-to-Cut-650-Jobs/5000380
“Blue Cross to Cut 650 Jobs
“The parent of Blue Cross and Blue Shield in four states, including Illinois, has announced it will shed 650 jobs -239 of them in Illinois- as it prepares for operations after the expected adoption of health care reforms.
“Officials say three administrative jobs will be eliminated at the BCBS Marion office, located on Meadowland Parkway.
“Chicago-based Health Care Service Corp. operates Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans in Illinois, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas. The company announced plans yesterday to reduce its work force about 4 percent by the first quarter of 2010.
“Health Care Service Corp. has more than 12 million health plan members. Other giant health plans have announced similar job cuts in recent months as their employer clients reduced employees and restructured health benefit packages.
“In an internal memo obtained by the Chicago Tribune, Health Care Service said the cuts and related adjustments will reduce administrative expenses by about $70 million.”
Yep, everything's just fine!
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Don’t Tread on Me!!
Ken (Old Texican| 8.13.09 @ 1:08PM
Mr. Tyrrell
This is my response to Quinn's wigging out article
...actually his reprise in the comments about trembling for his country. see below
Quinn!
DUH!
It is about darned time...YOU STARTED TREMBLING FOR YOUR COUNTRY!
I would have never guessed that you were such a slow "figure it outer".
I quit trembling for our country last December.
I made my decisions then. Perhaps it is time for you to do so.
Daisy| 8.13.09 @ 2:15PM
Old Texican, Quin's been an Anti-Obama stalwart for months. From the beginning, he's written many brilliant pieces warning us about Obama. Leave my boy alone!
fALLGOLD| 8.13.09 @ 3:21PM
With passage of this bill, the evil that has destroyed millions of the unborn, will now be
turned on the next weakest segment of society,
the elderly. God help this country.
Manny| 8.13.09 @ 3:33PM
Esteemed, and according to some, one of the 9 Best SCOTUS Justices, Louis Brandeis (served 1916-1939) wrote, "Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding."
The other great SCOTUS Justice, Joseph Story (served 1812-1845) wrote, "Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."
Nothing new under the sun...
Paul from SA| 8.13.09 @ 4:08PM
Papa Ray:
"But the one thing that is not vague is the disrespect and disdain that the members of congress and the president have shown to the American public over the last eight months."
I too agree with Louis Jenkins.
Calling me unAmerican, primitive, racist, Nazi, stupid, etc. simply because I oppose ObamaCare and massive gov't instrusion and deficits has my blood boiling. I feel like yelling. For the first time in my life, I feel like protesting. I am more energized, angry and afraid than anytime in my 48 yrs. Obama and the Dems must be stopped.
Dixie Pixie| 8.13.09 @ 4:35PM
To: R. Emmett Tyrrel Jr.
Who are you going to believe, Obama or your lying eyes.
To answer the question, will Obama-care deny medical care due to cost reasons, the answer is “YES DAMMIT YES”.
It is a fact the Jefferson County government in Alabama got into a cash flow problem and took money out of the indigent care accounts of the local hospital “Cooper Green Hospital”. It is a fact Cooper Green Hospital did deny health care to terminal ill patients including chemotherapy to cancer patients.
The good news a quick court ruling found the Jefferson County Commission acted illegally in taking the funds from the indigent care accounts. Cooper Green Hospital was funded by a sales tax and earmarked for indigent care usage by the state legislature. The court found the Jefferson County Commission must reimbursed the accounts and refrain from accessing the funds. The even better news was no one died. This time the patients were lucky but what about the next time.
My “lying eyes” have seen patients put on the street by a Democrat Party dominated government in a Democrat Party controlled city due to cost reasons. What Obama said can not happen has happened.
The conclusion is this, Palin was right and Obama is lying. !!!! Big Surprise !!!!
The Cheerful Oncologist| 8.13.09 @ 4:40PM
I asked every one of my patients during office hours today if they were for or against Obamacare. They all gave me a look like they had just stepped on a dog turd, followed by "Don't even get me started!" or some other variation of a theme best described as "Gasp! My president wants me dead!"
Truman| 8.13.09 @ 4:43PM
"not guaranteeing healthcare services to patients with dementia." Will the vote too be taken away from patients with dementia, or will they still be allowed to vote as long as they vote the "right" way? If they vote the "right" way, will they become eligible for healthcare services again?
Steve Jeffries| 8.13.09 @ 5:09PM
When will one of you conservatives offer me an alternative to what I have instead of just taking potshots at what is being offered!
Just to start, I am an owner of a small business in high tech. I provide and pay 100% of healthcare. I have been in high tech companies and started 4 over the past 25 years.
I consider myself fiscally conservative. I am not for a single payer, govt only option.
However, I am sick of not hearing of a solution from republicans, conservatives or anti obamas. Taking potshots without offering something else is just whining.
And yes, the system needs fixing. My premiums have gone up 100% since I started my latest company 10 years ago. Each year they go up a lot, and each year, I pare back a little bit more. Started out with no family deductible and $5 copay. Now its $25 copay and $500 deductible. For 2x the cost.
What about the people without health care? What about people who lose their jobs and can't get a job.
In fact, the whole system is broken for several reasons. The first is that we get health care from employers. That worked well when it started in 1950 and most people kept the same job for life. That is not the case anymore. Second, low copay lets people go the doc for every sneeze and let's docs order every test so they are not sued. If it cost you $100 to see your doc, you might wait a few more days for routine stuff, and only see them for critical issues.
My true fiscally conservative solution lies in allowing every individual to purchase health insurance on the open market! And everyone over 21 must have it at some level, and you cannot be denied a certain level of catostrophic insurance regardless of your current health. Yes this means that the mostly young (healthy) are subsidizing the ill, but it's only for catastrophic insurance. You want more than that, you pay for the level you want. I hate to say this, but from what I read, this is essentially what France has, but the basic insurance is from the govt, and if you want more than that, you purchase it on your own. I think 80% of the population purchase it.
It pisses me off to no end to hear Rush, etc. just whine and whine and offer nothing. The health care system IS broken! Socialized medicine is not the fix, but doing nothing isn't the solution either.
Dave| 8.13.09 @ 5:15PM
My reply to Mr. Tyrrel's observations on B. Hussein current agenda push might be summed up in 4 tiny words:
"And we're surprise because ...?"
In sports, sometime winning the Series can be simply explained by ...The X Factor. The case of Barry getting his Alfred E. Neuman ears into the White House might be best explained as ...The *Duhhh Factor.
(*see: NBCCBSABCCNNPBSMSNBC with a large dose of Chrissy Matthews. She's sooo cute.)
jr| 8.13.09 @ 5:23PM
Yes, folks, most of the clamor is about the elderly. (I'm one of those insignificant not-needed, unproductive, and receiving Medicare.) But in addition to people like me there are thousands who have multiple illnesses and physical problems who would not fit into the mold of Ezekiel Emanuel's whole and productive human. And that fits perfectly with the super race envisioned by Hitler. What's the difference?
Paul from SA| 8.13.09 @ 5:36PM
Steve Jeffries,
I work for a software development company that does not offer health insurance. Right now we have zero sales and income. I purchase my own.
Health insurance should be not be connected to employment.
Health care should not be free.
Check the NRO website today. There is a great article on what to do with freeloaders who don't pay for their healthcare -- since, I believe, the gov't cannot mandate that every citizen purchase a service (or product).
I don't believe you have ever listened to Rush. He, we and Republicans have been talking about and offering solutions for decades. Democrats have blocked everything. Everything.
Doing nothing is a canard. It's Obama's swan song.
Health Savings Accounts
Tort Reform -- stop frivolous lawsuits
Deregulation of Health Insurance -- removing state mandates, insurance should be for catostrophies
Allowing tax deductions for people who purchase individual policies (as I do)
Remove illegal aliens
.
.
.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com| 8.13.09 @ 6:04PM
Steve Jeffries, Paul from SA has rendered my comments redundant. He simply out typed me and posted his well-thought out proposals before I finished mine. Nonetheless, to let you know that more than one conservative disagrees with you, I am posting my thoughts which basically echo Paul’s.
If you are not hearing conservative solutions to the healthcare problem, it’s because you are not paying attention. I listen to Rush faithfully, and I have heard him address solutions that won’t enslave this country. Just as I have heard similar from Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. These include but are not limited to allowing people to take care of their own healthcare. There are, unbelievably, even Republicans in con-gress with serious alternatives to the life of servitude the alinskyites would impose on free Americans. For example, I do not plan to ever get pregnant, though if I did so, I could probably sell the story to the tabloids for plenty of cash. So forcing me to pay for maternity coverage is just theft of my money. Also, I have car insurance, but it doesn’t cover every ding or dent that happens. I have a deductible. This deductible is set high enough that I’m not constantly running to the dent doctor for any blemish to the paint job, but if my car is heavily damaged in a collision, I am responsible for paying only that deductible. Something similar could be tried with healthcare. If my car is seriously damaged, I can shop around for competing prices. Why can’t I do this with my medical care? My auto insurance in my state is the same available to my children who live in other states. Why can’t medical insurance be available nationally? Since the largest factor in driving up health care costs is possibly the amount medical professionals must pay for malpractice insurance. My wife has been a registered nurse for over 30 years, and she needs to carry a least a million dollars in malpractice coverage just in case. Another factor in the cost of healthcare is a result of the high probability that medical professionals will be sued if their diagnosis turns out to be incorrect. Whether or not there original diagnosis was correct is often based on a determination by a johnny edwards wannabe that since the patient was not miraculously cured it was because the physician only ordered 99 diagnostic tests and not a test employed by jungle witch doctors complete with incantations. In short, no healthcare reform that doesn’t address frivolous lawsuits should be taken seriously. There are plenty of other ideas that are being offered. I suggest you quit listening to the liars in con-gress and the white house and pay attention to those whose solutions will not lock shackles around our ankles, wrists and necks.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Don’t Tread on Me!!
Banksters Fraud| 8.13.09 @ 6:59PM
On Oct 12, 1915, Edith Cavell, 50, a British nurse and head of a teaching hospital in Belgium, was shot by a German firing squad. Her death inflamed anti-German feeling in the US and caused enlistment in England to double.
She had helped some British POW's escape. Normally her crime was punished by three months imprisonment. Why was she killed?
According to Eustace Mullins, Edith Cavell had stumbled upon some damaging information. On April 15, 1915, The Nursing Mirror in London published her letter revealing that the Allied "Belgian Relief Commission" (charged with feeding Belgium) was in fact channelling thousands of tons of supplies to Germany.
Sir William Wiseman, head of British Intelligence and a partner in the bankers Kuhn Loeb, demanded the Germans execute Cavell as a spy. Wiseman believed that "the continuance of the war was at stake." The Germans reluctantly agreed, thus creating "one of the principal martyrs of the First World War." (The Secrets of the Federal Reserve, pp. 72-73)
Pretty cynical you say? No more cynical than demolishing the World Trade Center, murdering over 3000 Americans to start a "War on Terror."
This example of cooperation between belligerents was accomplished because Wiseman worked closely with the head of the US Federal Reserve, Paul Warburg . Warburg's brother Max was Chief of German Intelligence and a close friend of Kaiser Wilhelm.
The London-based central bankers use wars to weaken nations and colonize the world (incl. UK, US Israel etc.). The difficulty executing WWI was that they had already bankrupted the European states by selling them battleships and other armaments. Europe couldn't afford a war!
The introduction of the US Federal Reserve and the Income Tax Act in 1913 solved this problem. US government loans financed World War One. The American people were on the hook for both sides of the conflict.
This is how it works: The banksters created money from thin air based on the credit of the US government. Every dollar they "loaned" the US government was a new dollar in their pocket.
No nation is free if it cannot control its own credit, i.e. print its own currency at will. We are not free. The central banking cartel controls us by threatening to withdraw our credit i.e. currency causing economic turmoil
linda kinser| 8.13.09 @ 7:02PM
All I have to say is ..I didnt really realize there were so many of you good Americans ..even you Steve Jeffries..I feel for you..but Paul from sa says it like it could be..the lawyers and the illegals alone probably drove it up to where it is...why wont bam-bam do something about both those issues
Marc Jeric| 8.13.09 @ 7:04PM
Health care costs aproach $3t trillion/year. There is a simple measure that would immediately cut some one trillion from that cost, and that is TORT REFORM in the sense "loser pays" which is a system used in all civilized countries in the world except here. Malpractice insurance rates would drop precipitously and immediately; defensive medicine would disappear (that's when you have sore throat the doctor sends you to 30-step test program).
Such a tort reform would have two more positive effects: 1) it would put a stop to millions of frivolous lawsuits by eco-nazis; and 2) the economy would profit by addition of close to a million new intelligent workers, previously engaged as lawyers-hyenas trolling for new "victims" of rapacious corporations bent on killing their customers.
Mary M| 8.13.09 @ 8:07PM
Great read, Mr. Tyrell. The left's flailing about would be funny if the issues were not so serious. The pres and dems are so bizarre and childish, with fresh episodes daily. Normal people notice. The media echo chamber doesn't.
I've been so disgusted with Buttcracka's penchant for attacking one person or group after another, and the profligate spending of taxpayer money for trips and planes and special beef and soirees when so many Americans are out of work. It just reinforces my belief that the democratic party is now the party of the rich, elite and well-connected, completely out of touch with the American people. We are witnessing an even more spectacular liberal crack-up than Jimmah Carter. Time for another book, Mr. Tyrell!
Richard Baker| 8.13.09 @ 8:32PM
Ok. We've had the historic part about the Kenyan's election. When does he start working on his legacy or is he doing that now?
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com| 8.13.09 @ 9:38PM
Steve Jeffries, shortly before February 17, 1775, Benjamin Franklin wrote “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” He pledged his Life, his Fortune and his sacred Honor so that we would be free from tyranny. My family tree is ornamented by numerous patriots. The O’Teens have Wallace blood. One of my ancestors fought for the Scots at Flodden. Another was transported to the Americas after the ‘45. Another was one of Francis Marion’s swamp foxes. Another fought for the British at Moore’s Creek. One fell fighting for the Confederacy. The Widow of another Southern Soldier is my great-great grandmother. My grandfather was gassed by the Germans in the first war to end all wars. My Father marched with Patton across North Africa, through Italy and ultimately helped liberate at least one concentration camp. They all put their lives on the line for this country. I have no fortune; I only have the sacred Life given me by God, and I am willing, “with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence” to sacrifice it to “secure the Blessings of Liberty” for my children. To do less would be dishonorable.
I am bothered somewhat by the concept of Loser Pays tort reform. I think that this might unfairly punish those who truly feel they have a legitimate complaint about their healthcare. Also, there is always a chance that they were victimized by a smooth-talking sleazeball. I don’t wish to discourage them one bit. However, well-educated attorneys sould know whether or not a case has merit and should simply advise their clients appropriately. To do less would be malpractice on the part of said lawyer. He should pay. So I propose not Loser Pays, but L-A-P. Losing Attorney Pays. I could live with that.
Vaya con Dios, Les Paul. May you dance with your darling tonight.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
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Mr. Obama may mean well, but his policies as articulated and planned are a Trojan Horse of sorts for very concerning things. Light, as a supreme court justice once said, is the best disinfectant. Many doctors, a great many, do not agree with the AMA and do not support HCR as articulated. Our comments and discussion can be found at www.takebackmedicine.org
Tenn Slim| 8.16.09 @ 7:46AM
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Now. The USA ELEctorate is awake. Fortunetlay the Conservative Think Tanks, IE: Heritage have white papers for analysis. Once awakened, the electorate will storm the gates for information. Never one to let go of something newly discovered, the electorate can be expected to dig, turn over the onion political peels, to the detriment of their elected reps.
Example. My Dem rep never heard from his constitutents till this HR 3200 came up. Prior to that he pretty much had an easy ride. Today, his in basket is full, phones ringing off the hook, and he actually has to respond to his electors. No easy task being asked to do the will of the electors.
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G.. help the Congress, their lair is open indeed.
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