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Lawler| 6.26.09 @ 6:39AM

To the Muslim's "call to prayer" ... SHUT UP!
This is the USA.

geoff| 6.26.09 @ 6:49AM

I am not a Christian (although brought up as an Episcopalian; sang in choir and was an acolyte as well, lots of years ago - saw so much hypocricy there and elsewhere, left "organized religion" pretty much for good) but am a Deist - - but this Michigan restriction, like soooo many others, really sucks!
As a Libertarian-thinking person, we have our Freedom to Choose (in some areas), and, although The Bible or other similar literature isn't my reading material ("Atlas Shrugged" anyone?), one should not be stopped in ANY way; this is still the United States of America - - - at least, for a while longer.....

Darin| 6.26.09 @ 6:49AM

The Muslim call to prayer is being broadcast, in public, over loadspeakers. Where's the ACLU to oppose this "government endorsement" of religion? Oh, that's right. It's not Christianity, so the ACLU has no problem with it.

janet| 6.26.09 @ 7:05AM

Having grown up in Dearborn, and still having family in the area, I can attest to the fact that it is unlike any other American city. Not only do you feel like you are in another country, what's alarming is the blatant anti-Americanism that is a common feel there. It's bad enough to hear the public calling of prayer from Hamtramyck, a once thriving, proud, Polish, Christian enclave, but the total disregard for the traditions of this country is what scares me the most. There is no desire for these people to assimilate into our culture and traditions. They need to realize that this country was founded on religious tolerance. Something they know nothing about. I used to ask myself why they even come to this country. I now feel that this is part of a much greater desire to settle old Christian-Muslim scores. I for one am fed up with our government's double standard when it comes to displays of Christianity in our society.

Mary Grabar| 6.26.09 @ 7:28AM

This is so sad. Thanks for exposing this persecution of Christians; I believe it's part of an ongoing campaign.

Anne Riley| 6.26.09 @ 7:33AM

It is the beginning of more oppression for Christians. Dearborn is a hot-bed of terrorist cells. But Christians are now defined as terrorists by the insane politics of our new dear leader and his thugs. Worse will come.

KyMouse| 6.26.09 @ 7:41AM

Geoff, churches are full of sinners, and that's because they are hospitals for the sick, not shrines for saints. I hope no one ever suggested that you put your faith in other human beings -- Jesus certainly didn't. I encourage you to read the Gospel of John again, and ask God (since you're a Deist) to reveal to you who Jesus is. He will. Please follow Him, and accept His payment for your sins while you still can.

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geoff| 6.26.09 @ 8:10AM

KyMouse has the audacity to lecture me about religion?!? The Gospel of John? Try Second Kings II (22:23-24) or Ecclesiastes maybe....?
Not to be argumentative, but, written, retranslated, rewritten, revised and reinterpreted? In all due respect to hard core Christians, as I understand it (and, hey, I may be mistaken) the Old Testament of the Bible was written in 7th Century BC and took about 80 years to complete. Book of Daniel was supposedly written in 6th Century (12.8.9), but 3 Greek musical instruments were mentioned (3:5) which probably couldn't have happened, because Alexander-the-Great didn't conquer Babylon until 270-300 years later in 330 BC. Thus, the instruments hadn't been invented yet. The name Jehovah in today's Bible? As it wasn't even permitted to mention the name of God aloud (God had been "Yahweh" - then the initials YHWH in 160-170 BC -- then the Hebrew word "Adonai" (lord). But, not knowing that, the curious symbol YWH was mistakenly translated from German into the name Jehovah - a name which hadn't previously existed, so, perhaps man's efforts may have screwed up what might have been the original? The ancient text of the Hebrew Bible was apparently used against the Jews in subsequent centuries on occasion, like when Christians used their younger, less factual version against them, as in the Spanish Inquisition when hundreds-of-thousands tortured, killed, massacred. Then, there was a rather large gap of 4,500 to 7,000 years between the original Hebrew and the King James (which was poetic, poorly translated, interpreted and rewritten by that committee of 47 human very fallible people 'way back in 1504, which took about 11 years to be “approved”). In addition to the Hebrew and Protestant versions, there’s also the Duoay/Roman Catholic version. Confusing.
I read that Deuteronomy, like most of the Bible, was not a real history of the Hebrew people, but, rather, a distillation of hundred of old traditions, folklore, memories and (sometimes) Old-Wives Tales.... like, pork banned because of Trichinosis if not cooked long enough. Most of the scholars I've read suggest 3-5 different writing "styles" were used in the first five books of the Old Testament, although some suggest that Moses himself was the author. But, would Moses have used different styles of writing? The speculation continues. Also, some writers back then suggested that the earth was flat, supported by pillars. Isaiah said it was round ("Circle of the earth" 40:20) - and, we'll all recall, Rome killed those who said the earth revolved around the sun.
The King James version is purely Protestant in its choice of dusty & archaic words; masks its message in a kind of poetry. I've read where Matthew and Luke were plagiarized -- rewrote history and added folk-stories like the "virgin birth" -- they traced the ancestral line of Jesus back to King David... but, Matthew says there were 28 generations between David and Jesus - - Luke says there were 43 generations. (that’s a discrepancy of 15, right ? Who’s right?) So, totally different genealogies, and lineage was traced to Joseph, not Mary! So, with these conflicting genealogies, how can both Matthew & Luke be the real Word of God? And, of course, earlier, the first two books of Genesis and the two versions of "the Creation." Unless I'm mistaken, the 1st Gospel was written by Mark, 40 years after the crucifixion. But he'd never been to Judea; spoke Greek............ thus, one might question the authenticity of his writings; Saul (aka St.Paul) was executed in Rome 10 years before Mark wrote his gospel, and never made any mention of Jesus; John was the only one to call Jesus the "Son of God" - but his gospel wasn't written until the second century, right? The possible errors in translation should not be forgotten either, like the "walking on water" from the Hebrew's dual meanings might have been "walking by water" perhaps; the discussions of a tranquil Judea, when it was anything but? And there's more, but who has sufficient time -- or space? Some feel that Job was the best book in the Bible.
Oh – The “wonders of ‘King Solomon”? Some of the Bible’s higher critics assure us that Solomon probably never actually lived – and, if he really did, he was a barbaric Syrian chief named Suleimo,
In any case, the “Song of Songs” was not be him at all, but probably a clumsy Hebrew paraphrase of a semi-well-known Greek love dialogue (corrupted sufficiently as to be unrecognizable...)

In other words, for a vast variety of aforementioned (and other) reasons, it appears to me that there are more than just “a few discrepancies.” So, as a Deist, personally, I'll just bypass a lot of the written stuff, the pastors, priests, churches, bingo, blubbering women on TV with pink hair, Rolex, and fright makeup and just go "direct" to God. Seems to work fine, at least for me.
So kindly don't try to convince me about Jesus, religion or any Gospel(s), please. Speaking of which, as an addendum, if you don't mind: It’s been variously reported that there were more than 80 Gospels written. Only Matthew, Mark, Luke & John survived, or were allowed to be printed. The others were burned, or were supposed to have been burned, by church edict, of course.
There's plenty more, but we'll save that for another day... perhaps.
Your witness...
I get along great with God, DIRECTLY, thank you.

Tony in Central PA| 6.26.09 @ 8:25AM

Last month I read an article about Rotterdam. It is the second largest city in Holland and is becoming thoroughly Islamic. Holland has become a preview of what will be in Europe as its largest city, decadent, dying Amsterdam is eclipsed by Rotterdam, the capital of what some Europeans are calling the new Eurabia.

It appears the same influences are at work in Dearborn as Rotterdam - - an ideology ( liberalism ) and a faith ( Islam ) that are fundamentally opposed to Christianity. Tolerance is a one way street with both.

Peter Tell| 6.26.09 @ 8:26AM

America, fight now, before you go the way Britain and Western Europe have gone!!!

Ryan| 6.26.09 @ 8:36AM

One wonders if there is going to be something tragic come out of Dearborn - something happen because of Sharia law - before America wakes up to the population there.

I'd like to see the Arab Christians there push this to the Supremes, almost to make more of an issue of it about what you CAN'T do in America.

And geoff, there's quite a bit of literature out there that addresses many of your issues with the Bible - many of which are too focused on the KJV. I suggest that you study what Biblical Christian experts say as well, and not just those who aren't.

JP| 6.26.09 @ 8:48AM

Geoff,
You are incorrect. St Mark did in fact live in Judea; he was a Jew and one of Christ's disciples. You may in fact be confusing him with St Luke, a physician who wasn't with Christ during Christ's life and ministry, but tradition has it that this Greek met and interviewed several of the disciples as well as St Mary.

geoff| 6.26.09 @ 9:15AM

JP, you could be right, and I may be mistaken in the copious notes on that (and a veritable multitude of other topics) piece of history... and, Ryan, I have read plenty of Christianity's side (for one, the book "The Bible as History" is on the shelf, within arm's length) and not just just those conflicting views, trust me.
Could enlarge the scope of this semi-conversation, but I have a plane to catch. Have a terrific weekend.
And, may God bless.

Tim| 6.26.09 @ 9:31AM

Christians are on the "to do" list. Give it time. For two hundred years America has been the exception, the rule is persecution.
Despotism can exists with Islam, pagans, atheists etc. Judaism and Christianity are intolerable to despots.

Rhymes With Right| 6.26.09 @ 9:33AM

Mind a contrarian view here?

I think the judge got this one right.

The group in question was permitted to be there and distribute literature. They were offered a table in an area where any number of other groups were set up, offering literature and information.

What they were prohibited from doing is roaming around and passing out literature -- or stationing themselves near the entrance to the festival to pass out literature (crating a pedestrian traffic issue). No other group was permitted to do so, either.

Seems like a reasonable regulation for purposes of crowd control and public safety to me.

KyMouse| 6.26.09 @ 9:48AM

Geoff, you've mistaken an invitation for a lecture. Since you said that you were driven away from church by the hypocrisy you saw there, I was pointing out that finding hypocrites in church is as likely as finding sick people in a hospital. That's where they go to get help from Jesus and from each other, and to worship Him with each other. Knowing myself to be a sinner, I know better than to feel superior to the sinner sitting next to me in the pew.

If you are not grateful to Jesus for paying for your sins through His death on the cross, you are free to refuse His gift. I hope and pray that you'll change your mind some day. That's all -- an invitation, not a lecture.

DaBroad| 6.26.09 @ 9:57AM

It sounds like the group in Dearborn were looking for special rights - everyone else was required to have a booth, but they wanted to be able to wander around to hand out their material. From a logistical standpoint, festival organizers must insist on things like this - for any festival. If not, you'd have people handing out everything from religious fliers to advertisements for local restaurants to coupons for car repair to political fliers. It would be utter chaos. Talk to the organizers of any large community festival - they're the ones liable for everything that happens, no matter who actually does what. They already had equal rights - the right to get themselves a small booth, just like everyone else, but they wanted more than that, and whined when they didn't get their way. I have no sympathy whatsoever for those crybabies. Maybe they should just pick up their own loudspeakers to broadcast their Sunday morning meetings. Anyone complain about that, they'd be able to argue equal treatment with the Muslims.

As far as the foot washing stations go, it's a safety issue. Better than the mess that ensues when they attempt to follow their religions rules, and end up hiking their legs up wash in the sink. And yes, it's part of their religion - and no, WetOnes can't substitute (I've asked).

Ask the ACLJ| 6.26.09 @ 9:58AM

This is a good article. I think that the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) has been a great help to ministries in this kind of situation. Jay Sekulow, the head guy, used to be legal counsel for Jews for Jesus, I believe; that ministry does a lot of handing out of gospel literature on public sidewalks.

JP| 6.26.09 @ 11:33AM

Rhymes,
I think the issue here is equal protection and 1st Amendment rights. The city of Dearborn allows Islamic prayers to be piped over public loudspeakers. Muslims have an obligation per thier religion to pray at certain times of the day. Personall I have no problem with this, as Dearborn has a near majority of Muslims in many parts of the city, and the allowance fits with local religious customs. However, tolerance is a 2-way street, and accomodations must be made across the board. Otherwise, we are creating the kind of conditions that reign in many European cities where Muslims are the majority. Justice Jackson said the Constitution is not a suicide pact. That is, the Constitution is not to be used as a weapon against itself.

In cities like London, Amsterdam, Brussels, Marseille, and Brimingham, Muslims are a near majority and use thier clout to essientially intimidate other religions or non-Muslims. The so-called No-Go Zones are a testament to the weakness of civil authorities. The Federal Judiciary should come down hard on any group using its majority status to either run-out other groups or oppress them.

What would the Dearborn authorities do if the local Catholic Churches wished to pipe the Rosary through public loudspeakers?

factis| 6.26.09 @ 11:39AM

geoff, try this one on for size:
John 8:58 "Before Abraham was, I am." A bit of reflection might reveal that those five words contain the entire past and future of mankind's spiritual and temporal destiny. After Jesus speaks those (to some) infuriating words, the religious leaders took up stones to kill him. They meant to have him dead-on-the-spot. But Jesus somehow "hid himself, passed through the midst of them and went his way." How did he do that? Considering the rabid religious fervor we see on display every day now in the Arab street, it hardly seems possible that Jesus should have escaped a party of infuriated Semites intent on stoning him to death. But he did escape. How did he do that? And, more to the point, how could Jesus of Nazareth have imagined to conflate the past and the present so concisely unless he knew whereof he spoke? No one before or since has ever spoken as Jesus of Nazareth spoke. Man-made religion of every kind always fails. Always. Including the religion of so-called "christianity."

Ken| 6.26.09 @ 12:33PM

The Islamic "Call to Prayer" is not sounded over government PA systems. It is done through the PA at the Mosques.

Just as the ringing of Christian cchurch bells are.

Both are done. No reason for the ACLU to be involved. Seems our Constitution is safe since all religions are allowed to disturb the peace.

S in Severn| 6.26.09 @ 12:42PM

Dearborn until the 1970s was the location for the LARGEST population of ARAB CHRISTIANS outside the Middle East. Mostly from areas now in Syria and Lebanon. It was the MUSLIMS that invaded and built their Mosque right across the street from the Eastern Rite Cathedral.

The Festival has its origins in the Feasts of Saints Peter and Paul!

What rubbish!

Joe Max| 6.26.09 @ 1:22PM

The question is this: were other religious (i.e. non-Christian) groups allowed to pass out texts on the sidewalk, and not restricted to a booth? If, for example, a Wiccan group was allowed to promote their religion on the sidewalk but the Arab Christian group was not, that's clearly favoritism and a violation of the 1st amendment. If not, then all are being treated equally, which is the point. The restriction itself is not unconstitutional, as long as all are treated equally.

Since there are dozens if not hundreds of Christian churches in every city of this country, operating openly without harassment, the idea that Christians are being discriminated against in the USA is hard to defend.

In Berkeley, CA, arguably the most liberal city in the USA, the right of a Christian group to preach, proselytize and play Gospel music through a loud sound system on the public sidewalk was upheld by city officials on 1st Amendment grounds, even though local merchants complained about the sound level.

See: http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-07-17/article/30588

What the author of this article seems to be promoting is the *special* right for Christian groups to proselytize anywhere they like, any way the like, without restrictions of any kind, arguably because proselytizing - "spreading the Gospel" - is part and parcel of their religion. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. Just because, for example, I claim my religion demands that I be allowed to scourge women who are seen in public without their heads covered, I'm still not allowed to do that in the USA. No one is allowed to do that, for religious reasons or otherwise. Religion is not an excuse to break laws or rules that everyone else has to follow, so long as those rules are administered equally.

Helen Donnelly| 6.26.09 @ 1:53PM

I live in Dearborn, Michigan, and just several weeks ago, I found a Koran hanging in a plastic bag on my front door knob.... of course with the obligitory letter attached that they weren't trying to convert anyone. I took mine to City Hall and asked what would happen if Christians tried to distribute bibles. I guess now I know. This is not the America in which I grew up. We are in trouble and it will continue until people stand up and fight. God Bless America.

Joe| 6.26.09 @ 2:00PM

Geoff, KyMouse was only witnessing to you out of love which has already been noted. However, you decided to lecture us Christians on your own hurt feeling. Please remember to do on to others as you would have them do onto you. We don't need a lecture about God from a non-believer. Thanks for respecting our beliefs.

Francis Beckwith| 6.26.09 @ 2:16PM

Observation on Geoff's longish post:

Who knew that Theodore Kaczynski was allowed to post online? So many bytes, so little substance.

richard szathmary| 6.26.09 @ 6:24PM

I live in what used to be called a "garden apartment" development in Clifton, NJ And Clifton is a town with, alongside adjacent Paterson, a fairly large Muslim population, perhaps even a larger per capita one (at least Paterson here if maybe not Clifton) than Dearborn.

And beginning on the week's anniversary of 9/11 back in 2001, someone in my development every evening blared a recording of the call to prayer for Muslims from his/her apartment. This went on for over 3 months. I found the effect chilling in the extreme.

Michael| 6.26.09 @ 8:38PM

Just went to the ACLU website, typed in "Dearborn," thinking sure that I would find them on the side ofd religious freedom for everyone. Alas, the only entry was for a case from Jan. 2003, about a muslim guy who wasn't allowed to protest Israeli actions:

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From the ACLU site:

DETROIT - The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan today filed a federal lawsuit against the City of Dearborn challenging the constitutionality of a city ordinance that makes it a crime to protest unless a permit is obtained at least 30 days before the event.

"The 30-day waiting period prevents citizens from demonstrating at a time when they can be most effective in influencing public policy," said Kary Moss, Executive Director of the ACLU of Michigan. "If the Dearborn City Council schedules a vote next week on a proposal to fire half of the City employees, should the workers have to wait a month to protest that proposal?"

The lawsuit was filed on behalf of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), a national civil rights organization with offices in Dearborn, and Imad Chammout, a Dearborn resident and business owner.

Dearborn officials prosecuted Chammout last spring for participating in a march without a permit, a crime punishable by up to 90 days in prison and a $500 fine. The march, which was not organized by Chammout, was held to protest Israeli policies a few days after Israeli soldiers entered into a Palestinian refugee camp in Jenin.
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Richard Baker| 6.26.09 @ 8:44PM

Remember folks, this country was founded by Christians with guns. The Founding Fathers were Revolutionaries and their descendants live. Keep your powder dry.

The LIE never told| 6.26.09 @ 8:52PM

Christmas to benefit the Rich Jewish community. The Bible written by Rich Jewish people to exploit Gentiles, because they are stupid.

Christ was an invention, to fool the masses, he never existed.

The Sun of God, is no more than the sun due to it's energy was worshipped in the Egyptian times.

This myth has gone on for several thousand years even before Christ even to the extent using the same idealogies.

HistoryWriter| 6.26.09 @ 10:53PM

What do the Christians have to complain about. All other religious groups are abiding by the festival's arrangements for them to hand out their materials from assigned booths. But no, they insist on circulating through the crowd so they can "witness" by sticking their materials in peoples' faces. No one at the festival is treating them any dfferently from any other groupelse. Why should they have special consideration?

HistoryWriter| 6.26.09 @ 10:54PM

What do the Christians have to complain about. All other religious groups are abiding by the festival's arrangements for them to hand out their materials from assigned booths. But no, they insist on circulating through the crowd so they can "witness" by sticking their materials in peoples' faces. No one at the festival is treating them any dfferently from any other groupelse. Why should they have special consideration?

matt jones| 6.27.09 @ 12:35AM

while tolerance is always a touchy issue, it is by the fact that some considerations must be made for others that would not be made for another group. primarily, the ability to hand out materials to those participating in an festival geared towards a general audience and sill provided an outlet it must be added, is not comparable to the ability of muslims to exerxcise the call to prayer. further more accomadations made toward other faiths are not courtesy but the same principles alowed toward Christians: that is the ability to observe their faith in peace, and with certain needs met. However this is not the same ideal followed in the complaints featured in the article. the desire to talk about their faith to others is no more impeded than any one else, but simple courtesy must be observed in that attempting to hand out fliers and Christian materials to people at large gatherings is not a right, professing viewpoints to large crowds rarely is as this does not constitute merely sharing information, but rather the design of a soapbox from which to preach. further more the notion to not allow prayers in the name of Jesus, but to allow prayers in the name of allah is not a perference but merely an observence of the nessesity of each faith: Christians are not required by their faith to conduct prayers over all matters, at least not explicitly, while islamic faith often follows this understanding. it is not tolerance that is being observed but simply considerations of one's convictions and one's perception of their surroundings

Patriot| 6.27.09 @ 12:56AM

Keep your eyes open, Christians--there are lots of haters out there. We are the vast majority--all we have to do is speak up!

Avinash Machado| 6.27.09 @ 1:09AM

Well almost 80% of Americans claim to be Christians according to the Pew Survey. Muslims are less than 1%.

John M Clark| 6.27.09 @ 8:33AM

I am Christian, but totally respect other peoples theological beliefs as this nation was founded. I dare anyone including the authorities to tell me I cannot practice my Christian way of life.

notoobamessiah| 6.27.09 @ 9:15AM

The bigger issue I see here is the Muslims proliferating and becoming the majority. I hope the FBI and local authorities are keeping an eye on the Muslims holy temples. We have been shown that this is where the terrorist hotbeds start. The religion of peace?

BullFrog| 6.27.09 @ 10:03AM

Geoff: Answer a Bible Test Question for me Please. What is YOUR Hope (for everything) based on ?

Anton LaVey| 6.27.09 @ 10:47PM

This is part of a growing national trend to disfavor Christian expression and traditional speech, and reflects a disturbing direction in public policy in America today.

Its because Christians are dumber than any other demographic. This has been proven time and time again.

Bashevis| 6.27.09 @ 10:50PM

Geoff: Answer a Bible Test Question for me Please. What is YOUR Hope (for everything) based on ?

I'm not Geoff, sorry, but it involves Heavy Metal, Satan, microwavable meals, and video games. YEEEES! We will step all over you.

Withnail| 6.27.09 @ 10:54PM

notoobamessiah| 6.27.09 @ 9:15AM

The bigger issue I see here is the Muslims proliferating and becoming the majority. I hope the FBI and local authorities are keeping an eye on the Muslims holy temples. We have been shown that this is where the terrorist hotbeds start. The religion of peace?

That's what I used to ask about Christians... until I realized that they are bloodthirsty fiends who want to kill everyone in the world, EVERYONE, who does not agree with them. Jesus fuck, that was scary.

Muslin is cloth, not a people| 6.27.09 @ 10:56PM

Christians are terrorists. Look at history.

Cthulhu| 6.27.09 @ 11:02PM

On the sidewalks of Dearborn, Michigan, Christians need to be able to practice their faith too.

Haha, what? They had their time in the sun. Now is the Age of Cthulhu. Hemoglobin is my fruitjuice. Fuck Yes. Run Jesus, run.

Ohyes| 6.27.09 @ 11:05PM

*Jesus stumbles and screams*

Weak. We shall feed on this poor thing now. Hail CTHULHU!

FUCK JESUS! HAIL CTHULHU! YEEEEESXSSSSSSSS!

YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

FUCK YES!

Spiderman| 6.27.09 @ 11:12PM

Christians scare the shit out of me. Thank god I have superpowers and don't have to rely on freaks like christians to feel good about myself. They are all losers who try to make you feel guilty about your body and its super powers. Christians can just go to hell.

Wittgenstien| 6.27.09 @ 11:17PM

Christians scare the shit out of me, there is no more bloodthirsty group on the planet today. And that includes piranha and Muslims. And even vampires.

You guys are fucked up.

Tenn Slim| 6.28.09 @ 9:19AM

ALL
Dearborn, Mi. Islamic calls to prayer.
Is the implementation of Shariah Law next?
We are indeed witnessing the end of our Christian Nation, as the Founders worried so much about.
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Richard Baker| 6.28.09 @ 9:53AM

Keep emoting, Pagans. God will not be mocked. See you in eternity. Tip: try asbestos clothing for yourselves.

melvin polatnick| 6.28.09 @ 1:55PM

Those that believe in Ghosts and Goblins are thought to be insane. But those that believe in Sky Gods get respect. All believers in the supernatural should be allowed to proselytize freely.

ds80| 6.28.09 @ 4:18PM

geoff: "just go "direct" to God"

So what's your creed? Do you get to make up your own moral absolutes?

Wittgenstien: "Christians scare the **** out of me" Then you are sadly uninformed.

ds80| 6.28.09 @ 4:20PM

Richard Baker: "God will not be mocked. See you in eternity."

Fortunately, there's always the grace of final repentance.

JPMaestro| 6.28.09 @ 4:27PM

It is xenophobic nonsesne like this that has what's left of the Republican party inching closer and closer to irrelevance. . . sigh.

The illustrious and insightful authors of this piece are outright liars and if American Spectator has any journalistic integrity both of these chuckleheads will be permanently barred from its pages.

Please, Mr. Blackwell and Klukowski, tell me when you have heard the Muslim call to prayer broadcast "all over the city" in Dearborn, Michigan. Because actually I live here, and, well, that's just not true. As a previous poster mentioned, it is broadcast from the Mosque which is not in any near proximity to neighborhoods and actually sits on the edge of the city. Even if the mosque was smack dab in the middle of the city you would need loudspeakers engineered by NASA for that prayer call to be heard everywhere.

I, for one, haven't heard it once despite living here since the Mosque was built and attending school less than a half-mile away.

Furthermore, Dearborn is hardly a city that kowtows to minorities, Arab, black or other. Let's see, here: this is the same city that tried to get non-residents barred from city parks in the 80s (read: black people from nearby Detroit) and was defeated in a court decision on the matter. This is also the same city that had a longtime mayor, Orville Hubbard, who was nationally known for his outspoken racist views, once saying "The Syrians are worse than the Niggers," when the city's Middle Eastern population began to grow. This is the same city that had another 20-plus year mayor distribute campaign material concerning "How to deal with the Arab problem."
Both of these Mayors (the other being Michael Guido) regularly won their re-election by 70%.

So, no, the city is hardly the Midwest Medina that some believe it to be. It is, in fact, a heavily white city with a long, documented history of racism.

In closing, Mr. Blackwell, Mr. Klukowski, this piece is nothing more that a bunch of intolerant bile designed to foment prejudices and fears. You should be ashamed.

angrytom| 6.28.09 @ 8:50PM

obummer is a MUSLIM. America is going to wake up and find islam has taken over!Then we get to have another holy war here in America between Christians and muslims. America is a Christian nation.dont mess with God.

Richard Baker| 6.30.09 @ 7:13AM

ds80:
I believe the repentence must be sincere. God will still not be mocked.

Catiecay| 6.30.09 @ 5:48PM

WHITE Pride goes along with what is being said about religion...

This is great. I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is.....

Proud to be White

Michael Richards makes his point................
Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.

This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points...

Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.

And then there are just Americans. You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'Whiteboy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,'
'Caveman'... And that's OK..

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.

You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.

You have the NAACP. You have BET.... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud.... But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!

BE PROUD TO BE WHITE! BE PROUD TO BE A CHRISTIAN!!!

It's not a crime YET... But getting very close!

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