The American Spectator

ECM| 12.23.09 @ 2:44PM

They've seen the polls and now they want to kill it dead going into the 2010 elections.

Eric Cartman| 12.23.09 @ 3:39PM

I don't think they care about the polls. And with the Republicans not really getting upset about it - I mean really, have you heard ANY Republican point to a Dem and say they are lying socialists who is going to destroy health care and in the process the country for the poor (layabouts, drug attics and people too stupid to prepare for life ) . No, we get "My friend from Nebraska this and My friend from Massachusetts that" Such spinelessness has not been seen since the invention of Jello.

Paul| 12.23.09 @ 2:54PM

This is more fake Democratic drama. They're going to reconcile and pass the bill. If Ms. Pelosi needs Ms. Slaughter's vote, she'll have it, one way or the other (yawn).

Ellis Wyatt| 12.23.09 @ 3:28PM

I think she realizes this current bill has no chance of being passed. I don't see it getting out of the house and if it does it will be so changed I doubt it could achieve cloture in senate. The public option is a non-starter and I think she knows that too. So, I think alot of dems are seeing that they can pass a horrible bill and get killed in the midterms or try and salvage their careers and live to fight another day.

Tim Williams| 12.23.09 @ 3:32PM

She is making noises to appease the left. She'll still vote for it.

Duh.

Richard Baker| 12.23.09 @ 4:24PM

ECM:
This is to divert from the reality of this abomination. This legislation will guarantee the 2nd American Revolution. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

Dion| 12.23.09 @ 4:52PM

Mark Steyn is right. The leftists don't care that they may lose a little power in 2010 or 2012. They will have installed the infrastructure for their eventual and permanent power. It's not about healthcare, it's about the firmament of Socialism in the US. Next up; dissolution of the southern border.

Jim Hlavac| 12.23.09 @ 5:15PM

Dion writes: "next up; dissolution of the southern border."

I spent months in Mazatlan Mexico, well south of the border. The newspapers there, (and there are three city dailies,) are filled with the sort of anti-government bashing that we could only wish for here in our mush-rags.
The Sonoran and Sinaloan (the two states I was in) newspapers call for a US style constitution for the United States of Mexico (that's on their money, by the way) and for a Bill of Rights translated from ours, and for less taxes, and for less regulations, and for loads less command and control from Mexico City. There are many calls to get rid of the ancient civil code and bring in modern US common law.
Noroeste (Northwest) -- a major newspaper in Sonora has all but called for secession from Mexico and petitioning to join the US as the 52st State. Sonora is even exempt from many Mex. national laws to be more in line with Arizona (even the only Mex state to not change to Day lights savings, just like AZ.)
I dare say, that Mexico is going towards liberty and capitalism just as fast as we are moving in the opposite direction.
Moreover, Mexico is building a fence along their border with Guatemala, they are tired of, ahem, illegal aliens.
Nearly 100% of the Mexicans I ever spoke to -- in Spanish, mind you -- admires the US. They want their country to be like ours [was]. (don't confuse their Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons with the sentiments of the real people, there are Mexican, um, burros, also.)
They are tired of the corruption, and joke openly about it. They want to throw the bums out as furiously as we do.
In fact, while the two country's political classes are brain dead socialists at this point, the vast vast majority of people are freedom loving capitalists -- and if you think for a moment that a guy who waits for hours outside a Home Depot in Chicago is waiting for a handout -- well, he's not -- he's ready, willing and able to work. No Mexican gave up their lives, their families, and often their life savings to come north because they want to reinstitute what they just so recently left because it is unsustainable. In a Reaganesque reality, they are voting with their feet.

In a radical idea -- what happens if we join with Mexico in patrolling the 200 mile long border at the far south, so that the 2000 mile border up north is as free as the 4000 mile one with Canada? And what would happen if the forces of a free market were unleashed on the decrepit state of a lot of Mexico? Why, the business opportunities would be substantial. Why, we'd get a combined country, richer than ever, with 420,000,000 people -- And at the rate that Mexicans are learning English ( a school at every corner nearly) there will be precious few in just a generation or two who will be able to speak Spanish anyway.
The socialists here might be rudely surprised to find that your Average Mexican is just as libertarian as your average American. And the socialist's open border policy will be for naught.

fedupinflorida| 12.23.09 @ 9:06PM

Hey, look over here:

"Top House Dem: Scrap Senate Bill and Start Over"

No, wait, what's that over there?

"House Dems: We won't roll over"
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....30916.html

Oooh, look at that shiny!

"Obama plans for health care delay, new jobs bill"
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....30925.html

Can you say subterfuge?

Jack| 12.24.09 @ 9:37AM

It's interesting to note that the stock market isn't reacting significantly. In fact, it's up a tad in the last few days. If the market is right, what's happening isn't important, at least economically.

TLS| 12.24.09 @ 1:14PM

Jack, it is significant. I would say that what is happening with HC is already priced into the market. In fact, if you look just at the HC sector (of stocks) it has lagged significantly behind the overall market the last year. The Dow would easily be at 12,000 without this mess, IMHO.

Oldefarte| 12.24.09 @ 2:02PM

Slaughter is RIGHT for all of the WRONG reasons. This WELFARECARE should be scraped, not because of insurance companies matters, but because it is nothing more than another liberal Democratic giveaway to their indigent constituents, all at taxpayer expense. In scrapping/dismantling it, serious TORT REFORM, INTERSTATE PURCHASING OF INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES, and NULLIFICATION OF MEDICAL PROCEDURE PRICING should be the key items of consideration for substantially lowering of medical prices [and correspondingly healthcare insurance premiums]. If/when these latter concerns are built into congressional legislation, it will them truly become HEALTHCARE REFORM [but not until]!!!!

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