Sen. Ben Nelson has said he would support the health care bill,
all but ensuring that Sen. Harry Reid will be able to secure the
60 votes he needs to set up final passage on Christmas Eve.
"Change is never easy, but change is what's neccessary in America
today," Nelson said in a press conference this morning. "And
that's why I intend to vote for cloture."
Nelson called the agreement to achieve 60 votes "an
accomplishment of historic proportions," but warned that if there
were "material changes" to the bill in the conference
committee with the House, then he would not vote for cloture on
the final merged bill.
Reid was able to secure his support without adopting the Stupak
abortion language that passed the House. While I'm still
analyzing the tricky abortion language included in Reid's final
amendment (which you can read here,
beginning on page 38), it seems the difference is that states
will be able to opt out of offering abortion coverage on the new
government-run exchanges. The compromise still relies on a
"segregation of funds" model with the idea that government
subsidies wouldn't be used to pay for the abortion benefit in an
insurance policy.
Meanwhile, Igor Volsky notices
that Nelson's home state of Nebraska was given additional funding
to offset the cost of the Medicaid expansion.
Nelson wouldn't comment on the Medicaid payment to Nebraska when
asked about it in a press conference, but he defended the
abortion compromise.
The way he described it, if a woman using government subsidies to
purchase health insurance wants abortion coverage, she'll have to
send one payment to the insurer to pay for the policy, and a
separate payment if she chooses a policy that covers abortion.
Where does this leave us now? The Senate is expected to hold its
first procedural vote on health care on Monday at 1 a.m. to stay
on track for a final vote on Christmas Eve.
Next month, the House and Senate will reconcile their bills,
which will then have to pass both chambers again before President
Obama can sign it, which he hopes to do before his State of the
Union address. At this point, the smart money would have to be on
Democrats getting it done, but there are still obstacles to
reaching a final agreement.
"Let me be clear: this cloture vote is based on a full
understanding that there will be limited conference between the
Senate and the House," Nelson warned. "If there are material
changes in that conference report, different from this bill, that
adversely affect the agreement, I reserve the right to vote
against the next cloture vote."
The House is both more liberal and more pro-life than the Senate,
and thus the bill that cleared the House (by a narrow 220-215
margin) had a public option and stronger abortion language. Many
liberal activist groups have pushed for passage of the Senate
bill, while still insisting on a fight for the public option in
the conference. If liberals and pro-life House Democrats are
insistent, it would complicate any final deal.
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Franklin| 12.19.09 @ 11:35AM
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around the track| 12.19.09 @ 12:48PM
Why do liberals win? They know how to play politics with their
members. Hope for the House? How naive--another regrettable
characteristic of the right. Mark Levin has said it: the right
must consider this a war! Nicities are out!
DrTomVoter| 12.19.09 @ 1:05PM
They don't play politics with their members, they just
unashamedly buy their votes. If it was all about abortion for
Nelson, how did the bribe for his state even come up? He is as
principled as the average streetwalker. This is a done deal. They
will buy the votes they need with our money.
Ned| 12.19.09 @ 1:35PM
I wonder if Dingy Harry has any FBI files on some of these so
called hold-outs, just kind of lying around his office.
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Shamus| 12.19.09 @ 2:23PM
The GOP caved as well.
They have many ways to fight bad legislation in the Senate, but
they haven't done a damn thing to try to stop this bill. Both
parties are completely useless.
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BD57| 12.19.09 @ 5:53PM
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pay Nelson's bribe money.
…on health care, has caved on abortion - having sold out for an extra year of federal Medicaid subsidies for his state, and that Reid’s disastrous (for literally every American) Managers Amendment will move forward toward passage. The highly unpopular vote will be scheduled for a vote in the dead of night ( yes, Obamaism is indeed worse than socialism ). As for just how bad it is for America, the Heritage Foundation has…
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Millie| 12.19.09 @ 9:20PM
I suppose the people in Congress can do whatever they want? This
situation, in my opinion, is nothing BUT Blackmail. And isn't
that against the law. Probably , except for Congress. They seem
to be able to break the law whenever they feel like it. We now
have two blackmailers in Congress. Get them OUT ASAP! Now we all
have to pay their way for the next 3 (ONLY) years.
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They don't play politics with their members, they just unashamedly buy their votes. If it was all about abortion for Nelson, how did the bribe for his state even come up? He is as principled as the average streetwalker. This is a done deal. They will buy the votes they need with our money.
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