Last Tuesday night, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid declared
that a compromise had been reached on the "public option." Even
though he wouldn't say what it the deal was, and even most
Democrats didn't know, the media soon declared that passing a
health care bill was inevitable. But less than a week later, the
deal has already fallen apart, thanks to Sen. Joe Lieberman --
with an assist from Sen. Ben Nelson.
It was actually pretty comical to watch CBS's "Face the Nation"
on Sunday (video,
transcript). Sen. Jay Rockefeller sat there and declared that
health care legislation had "tremendous momentum" in the
Senate, while accross the table, Sens. Lieberman and Nelson shook
their heads and said neither of them could vote for the current
bill.
"(T)hey’re not 60 votes for health care reform in the
Senate now," Lieberman declared.
And his complaints with the bill weren't limited to the public
option: "You’ve got to take out the Medicare buy-in. You’ve
got to forget about the public option. You probably have to take
out the Class Act, which was a whole new entitlement program that
will, in future years, put us further into deficit. And you’ve
got to adopt some of the cost containment provisions that will
strengthen cost containment, that all of us favor."
But an amendment by Sen. John Thune to strip the the Class Act, a
government long-term care insurance program envisioned by Ted
Kennedy, came
nine votes short of the 60 it needed.
Meanwhile, Sen. Nelson said that in addition to reservations
about the Medicare expansion pending the Congressional Budget
Office report, he remains concerned about the lack of Stupak-like
language on abortion, and didn't seem all that optimistic that a
compromise was possible after the defeat of an amendment he
sponsored with Sen. Orrin Hatch.
"I can’t support the bill with the -- the abortion language
that’s there," Nelson said. "Unfortunately, the
Nelson-Hatch failed and -- but I do know that there are
some who are, right now, trying to find language that might be
compatible with the Stupak language in the House. That’s a tall
order for people. And I’m not prescribing ahead what they may be
able to do."
By last night, the Huffington Post was
reporting that Lieberman told Reid to his face that he could
not vote for the bill in its current form, and the left was in
full panic mode. Talking Points Memo ran the banner
headline, "Health Care Reform in Peril." The Washington
Post's liberal health care blogger Ezra Klein
accused Lieberman of "just torturing liberals." He wrote that
Lieberman is "willing to directly cause the deaths of hundreds of
thousands of people in order to settle an old electoral score."
The problem is that Reid was in a position where everything would
have to go perfectly to be able to pass a health care bill by
Christmas, an outcome President Obama predicted on in his
interview on "60 Minutes" that
aired last night. But now, assuming Lieberman means what he
says, that seems increasingly unlikely. Either Reid will have to
pull a new compromise out of his hat like magic or get liberals
to accept all of Nelson and Lieberman's demands, or this thing is
going to spill over into next year, and the whole effort may
collapse altogether.
But before you get too excited, just remember that the media was
declaring health care legislation "inevitable" last Tuesday, so
we shouldn't assume it's doomed today. The story keeps changing.
"Ezra Klein . . . wrote that Lieberman is 'willing to directly
cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in order to
settle an old electoral score."'"
Old Ezra has his panties in a knot because Liberals are going to
need that "free" health care since they're all having strokes
over what's happening to their other scam: Global Warming. Poor
Liberals, all their Socialist dogma getting run over by their
Communist Karma. Tut, tut, tisk, tisk.
Reid will cave to everyone, Lieberman, Nelson, whoever, just to
get something passed they can call "healthcare reform." Declare
victory now, then what it all falls apart demand that the reform
be reformed. You watch, something will pass.
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Oldefarte| 12.14.09 @ 12:08PM
IF this health/welfarecare bill fails; Reid, Dodd [and as many
other liberals as possible]etc are defeated next year; and Obama
was replaced in 2012; this would be a great Christmas present.
But as the old saying goes, IF IFS AND BUTS WERE CHERRY AND NUTS,
WE'D ALL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!
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Lioness| 12.14.09 @ 12:20PM
THANK YOU JOE LIEBERMAN -- there is hope that we the majority of
Americans who don't want monstrosity enslaving us may have a
Senator who stands up for wishes of the American people!
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fran campbell| 12.15.09 @ 10:56AM
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE DEMOCRATS WANT A NONREFORM HEALTH
CARE BILL PASSED. THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SEE NOTHING IN THIS
2,000 PLUS PAGE BILL THAT WILL BE OF ANY MEANING OR SUBSTANCE.
WHERE IS TORT REFORM? WHERE IS PERMITTING THE OPENING OF SALES OF
INS. ACROSS STATE LINE? WHY IS IT THE SEIU(OBAMA'S FAVORITE
WHITEHOUSE VISITOR) HAVE BEEN PROMISED A PAY BACK PLUM--MANDATORY
UNIONIZATION OF ALL HEALTH CARE WORKERS. CORRUPTION,
THEFT,FAVORITISM, PAYOFFS TO LOBBYISTS AND THE COMPANIES THEY
REPRESENT ARE RIFE IN THIS BILL. WHY THE RUSH TO GIVE OBAMA A
CHRISTMAS PRESENT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUTURE DEFICITS AND
LOSS OF OUR CREDIT RATING. SOMETHING THIS LARGE NEEDS
BIPARTISANISM AND TRANSPARENCY. WHY IS IT WHEN OBAMA CAME TO
SPEAK TO THE SENATE THAT IT WAS DONE BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR AND HE
ONLY ADDRESSED THE DEMOCRATS? WHY IS IT THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE
LEFT OUT COMPLETELY AND HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT DIRTY HARRY HAS
INSERTED INTO THIS VILE BILL? THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS
BEGINNING TO LOOK MORE AND MORE LIKE A FASCIST GOVERNMENT
ESPECIALLY WHEN REVIEWING THE CALIBER OF QUESTIOABLE ADVISORS AND
CONVICTED FELONS HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH. JUST LOOK AT THE
EXPANSION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE TRAMPLING OF THE
CONSTITUTION IN LESS THAN A YEAR..
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Eric Cartman| 12.14.09 @ 9:57AM
"Ezra Klein . . . wrote that Lieberman is 'willing to directly cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in order to settle an old electoral score."'"
Old Ezra has his panties in a knot because Liberals are going to need that "free" health care since they're all having strokes over what's happening to their other scam: Global Warming. Poor Liberals, all their Socialist dogma getting run over by their Communist Karma. Tut, tut, tisk, tisk.
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Oldefarte| 12.14.09 @ 12:08PM
IF this health/welfarecare bill fails; Reid, Dodd [and as many other liberals as possible]etc are defeated next year; and Obama was replaced in 2012; this would be a great Christmas present. But as the old saying goes, IF IFS AND BUTS WERE CHERRY AND NUTS, WE'D ALL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!
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Lioness| 12.14.09 @ 12:20PM
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fran campbell| 12.15.09 @ 10:56AM
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE DEMOCRATS WANT A NONREFORM HEALTH CARE BILL PASSED. THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SEE NOTHING IN THIS 2,000 PLUS PAGE BILL THAT WILL BE OF ANY MEANING OR SUBSTANCE. WHERE IS TORT REFORM? WHERE IS PERMITTING THE OPENING OF SALES OF INS. ACROSS STATE LINE? WHY IS IT THE SEIU(OBAMA'S FAVORITE WHITEHOUSE VISITOR) HAVE BEEN PROMISED A PAY BACK PLUM--MANDATORY UNIONIZATION OF ALL HEALTH CARE WORKERS. CORRUPTION, THEFT,FAVORITISM, PAYOFFS TO LOBBYISTS AND THE COMPANIES THEY REPRESENT ARE RIFE IN THIS BILL. WHY THE RUSH TO GIVE OBAMA A CHRISTMAS PRESENT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUTURE DEFICITS AND LOSS OF OUR CREDIT RATING. SOMETHING THIS LARGE NEEDS BIPARTISANISM AND TRANSPARENCY. WHY IS IT WHEN OBAMA CAME TO SPEAK TO THE SENATE THAT IT WAS DONE BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR AND HE ONLY ADDRESSED THE DEMOCRATS? WHY IS IT THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE LEFT OUT COMPLETELY AND HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT DIRTY HARRY HAS INSERTED INTO THIS VILE BILL? THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS BEGINNING TO LOOK MORE AND MORE LIKE A FASCIST GOVERNMENT ESPECIALLY WHEN REVIEWING THE CALIBER OF QUESTIOABLE ADVISORS AND CONVICTED FELONS HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH. JUST LOOK AT THE EXPANSION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE TRAMPLING OF THE CONSTITUTION IN LESS THAN A YEAR..
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