The American Spectator

Liberal Reader| 11.28.09 @ 4:47PM

Gerson is a "worthless think-tank wonk"?

That's just ridiculous, McCain.

Bob| 11.28.09 @ 7:28PM

I guess Karen Hughes is also looking down her elitist nose at you. After all, she is one of the senior advisers to the group.

If AmSpec is representative of today's journalism, Gerson is clearly right...

Please RSM, go back and ride your dinosaur back home. I hope you don't have any accounts or credit cards at CitiBank -- after all the major stockholder there is also a Saudi.

man_in_tx| 11.28.09 @ 9:06PM

Karen Hughes was a TX hick who -- while on a mission the middle east for ex-President GWB -- looked oh-so-serious while wearing a hijab in some mosque or someplace: She is a goofball. As far as CitiBank goes, go on line to look at all the customer complaints lodged against them. As a former customer, let me assure you that CitiBank's customer service befits its Saudi master's shari'a orientation: It is little short of horrible.

Nolann Ryann| 11.28.09 @ 7:43PM

Oh wow the Bob and Jerry show is in full force in agreement with Gerson. That just seals the deal. Gerson was nothing but a failed hack in a failed admin much like Karen Hughes. I guess that Muslim outreach is still working miracles about now. Anytime you two dolts go for something I know it isn't anything I want to touch with a ten foot pole.

Pete2| 11.28.09 @ 8:41PM

Evidently, the ones called Bob and Liberal Reader are nothing more than hacks themselves, from what I've read of their posts. Protecting their own is what it's called...losers tend to stick together.

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Liberal Reader| 11.28.09 @ 10:27PM

M. Gerson seems like a reasonable fellow to me. I read his columns in the Post regularly; I almost never agree with him.

I think you folks dislike him because he makes you sound stupid and crazy. But don't worry: there needs no Gerson come from Washington D.C. do show us this.

SoCon| 11.28.09 @ 10:43PM

LibReader; you're stupid, crazy, and you have a foul mouth. Buzz off, BOZO.

martin j smith| 11.29.09 @ 8:36AM

The writer quoted Mr Gerson's statement and it was quite clear. I have herd this line of reasoning before. From PBS , CNN,CNBC and on and on etc. But any cveman knows what is really happening. People have lost faith in the MSM and have gotten to understand the lies and the betrayl of the American people. And by the way when mention the Post --I assume you mean WAPO ? If so well what can one expect from you?
One crucial issue-among many--is the lastes on the e-mails regarding the so called Climate Change issue. I think that there is a cover up by the MSM --but despite of that the story is coming out. Thank gd for alternative media sources. As for sounding"stupid and crazy" that may be the "plan" but it isn't working. Folks who dissaprove of this government are growing daily. I know I expect LR to rebut but that is ok with me. He is free to make case yet people of his ilk would forbid opposition from making theirs.

Liberal Reader| 11.28.09 @ 10:30PM

As for being Saudi funded...

(Do you people even read these articles? I mean, they're absolutely ZANY!)

As for being Saudi funded: have you people ever heard of the BUSH FAMILY?

And what about the funding of some conservative publications, like the Washington Times.

The Washington Times is owned by a man who claims to be King of the Universe AND the Second Coming of Christ!

Run that along side the creepy group, The Family, and its C Street orgy manor, and you have one weird scene. As long as they're doing it all for Jesus!

SoCon| 11.28.09 @ 10:45PM

The Bush family? Have you ever heard of the freaks, losers and morons in the OBAMA FAMILY?

Idiot.

Chuck| 11.28.09 @ 10:34PM

Gerson said, "Bloggers in repressive countries often show great courage, but few American bloggers have the resources or inclination to report from war zones, famines and genocides."

That is because we are trying to save our "repressed butts" from this Congress and Administration . Oh yes, we are in a war zone that leftists have created here at home. Keep it up, and we'll have a famine. The genocide? That is the abortion you likely support.

R. Dittmar| 11.29.09 @ 9:56AM

This knee-jerk comparison is all you need to read to understand how GOP elites think of the rest of us:

"Free markets, it turns out, often make poor fact-checkers, instead feeding the fantasies of conspiracy theorists from "birthers" to Sept. 11, 2001, "truthers.""

According to Gerson, left-wing kooks that actively believe George Bush either planned the murder of 3000 people or was an accessory to the murders after the fact are just the same as some overzealous right-wingers that have a few questions about Obama's birth certificate.

Personally I couldn't care less about Obama's birth certificate, but the dislike the Republican highbrows have about "birthers" speaks volumes about their snooty attitudes. Ask a few questions they deem inappropriate and you are no different than true kooks who accuse the President of the U.S. of committing thousands of premeditated murders.

Liberal Reader| 11.29.09 @ 10:38AM

Actually, Gerson's not exactly right.

Free-markets are pretty good "fact checkers."

In the end, good journalism develops in response to demand.

The present bad moment will give way to something else.

Once people make the crucial connection between the awful state of American governance and the lack of information they have, they'll demand more good journalism.

Once they see, for example, that foreign adventurism debases and intoxicates political discourse, they'll want to know why we're wrapped up in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they'll eschew the simplistic and jingoistic answers Fox News has been giving them.

This month we're going on a TRILLION and a half dollars spent overseas since 9.11. It fattened up some defense and security contractors, but it did nothing to improve American security. 5,000 American soldiers dead and a lot of bad blood: that's what we get for seeking vengeance.

MOS was 71331| 11.30.09 @ 8:56AM

On 1 July 1916, the first day of the Battle of the Somme, "the British had suffered 19,240 dead, 35,493 wounded, 2,152 missing and 585 prisoners for a total loss of 57,470." Remember, thats out of a Brit population at the time of less than 50M. 5K American dead over a 7 year period out of a population about 7 times larger than 1916 Britain, however tragic to each individual and family involved, is barely a touch. It seems far wiser to kill Muslim terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan than to let them into to the US and Europe to kill us and our allies in large numbers.

martin j smith| 11.29.09 @ 11:41AM

Jounalism is dead. The vast majority of Americans know that the MSM are Left biased. That is the reason for the alternative media's popularity and the Democratic Party's hatred of the alternative media..
What runs journalism ( so called ) is politics,money,currution. Nothing more. People know it.

Richard Baker| 11.29.09 @ 11:45AM

According to some, we should just remove ourselves to our shores and hope for the best, I suppose. We live in an era of wishful thinking which presumes that intentions are fact. Orwellian speech is rampant. Remember, Arbeit macht Frei!

Liberal Reader| 11.29.09 @ 8:43PM

Baker --

Can you give an example of the "Orwellian speech" you claim is rampant?

That is, an example of this kind of speech that is not culled from the rhetoric we heard from the White House in the run-up to the war in Iraq, where Dick Cheney assured the people of this country our soldiers would be greeted as "liberators"?

Jeremiah| 11.29.09 @ 11:31PM

Well, let's see...a Muslim runs into a crowd in Florida shouting Alahu Akbar...and the Orwellian left says there is nothing to see here. A Muslim jihadist murders military recruiters shouting Alahu Akbar...and the Orwellian left says there is nothing to see here. A Captain at Ft. Hood says non-Muslims should be decapitated and have hot oil poured down their throats, makes repeated threats and finally murders 13 unarmed soldiers onbase shouting Alahu Akbar...and the Orwellian left says not to jump to conclusions.

An administration official says reciting a public Islamic prayer would not violate the separation principle while saying a public Christian prayer would.

I won't belabor it, LR...but there is very little but Orwellian 'Newspeak' coming from your side of the aisle. But facts are stubborn things, as John Adams first said. Sadly, we are aqll going to pay a terrible price for your Orwellian determination to ignore facts in economics, foreign affairs and national security.

Liberal Reader| 11.29.09 @ 11:58PM

Jeremiah --

I'm not sure how any of this merits the term "Orwellian," but that is besides the point, since you don't have any of your facts straight.

Name me one person on "the left" who said -- even figuratively -- "nothing to see here." And since when is the Army part of the left?

Jeremiah, you're going wrong when you simply divide the world into "the left" and "the right." Maybe you're young. Or maybe just immature. But the world is much, much more complicated than this.

There was a shooting today out in Washington, a terrible crime in which four police officers were murdered. Where's the "left's" complicity in this crime? How is "the left" responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing?

Now. My Orwellian administration?

Jeremiah, I hate to tell you. I'm not president.

At any rate. Obama was ELECTED president by your fellow citizens. The "administration" in 1984 is not elected, you'll recall.

But reread the novel. I'm glad to hear you're interested in literature. There may be hope for you yet. But you don't seem to have a clear understanding of what the adjective "Orwellian" is usually taken to mean.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.29.09 @ 12:05PM

Mr. McCain,
Thanks for the heads up.
I would like to take a moment here, and thank you guys for turning over rocks that we need to see beneath.
Heh! The proof of the pudding is watching the worms come crawling out in forums like this.
I have yet to decide whether they are "paid in cash" by the communists, (pardon the shorthand), to disrupt adult conversations...or...are they simply self deluded fools as they seem?
Sir, my primary question to you today; what kinds of "disturbances" do you foresee during the next year that are meant to prevent legitimate elections next November?

Oldefarte| 11.29.09 @ 12:40PM

It's truly amazing that FOOLS such as Gerson [and the entire MSM] are so ignorant [or stupid] that they do not seem to realize that THEY brought all of this onto THEMSELVES. Anyone able [or willing] to connect the dots would see that it goes from LIBERAL college professors brainwashing their students [including journalism majors] to same getting hired by the MSM/newspapers to same writing news stories/editorials that are read by the general public. This slanted/biased [so called] 'NEWS' is nothing more than the propaganda of liberal thought. There has never been a conservative slant to newspspers, and the American public has historically bee forced to accept this slanted/biased news due to lack of any [conservative] alternative. This is what is meant by BRAINWASHING, and it has occurred daily from each/every newspaper in existence. If you read over and over that IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT, then guess what------soon you begin to believe it as truth [because you read it in a MSM publication]. Well, guess what, kiddies----you've been HAD or BRAINWASHED, and the liberal press effectively has you in their back pocket. The alternative media, ie internet news, is not factless, since it's based [as Gerson rightly says] on MSM's investigative sources; but where the MSM injects its salnt/biasness into their articles, the alternative takes those same 'facts' and applies the TRUTHFUL slant or interpretation that is needed and desired by the basically moderate general public. The MSM is not dying, it is killing itself from its unnecessary BAISED reporting!!!!!!!!!!

Margie| 11.29.09 @ 6:22PM

Well said, Olde Fart.
And we (or at least I will), shall henceforth call them the LameStreamMedia, as Sarah Palin recently referred to them in an interview with Sean Hannity.
God bless.

ed hardy shirt| 11.30.09 @ 3:58AM

Sir, my primary question to you today; what kinds of "disturbances" do you foresee during the next year that are meant to prevent legitimate elections next November?

Bob Belvedere| 11.30.09 @ 9:44PM

Does Mr. Gerson know Grover Norquist who should be on every conservative's Evil List?

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