A new Gallup
poll finds that 70 percent of Americans say that Sarah
Palin's decision to resign as governor of Alaska has no effect on
their opinion of her. At the same time, 17 percent view her less
favorably as a result of the move, and 9 percent view her more
favorably. Meanwhile, Palin continues to be polarizing, with 43
percent saying they would be very or somewhat likely to vote for
her as president and 54 percent saying they would be "not too
likely" or "not at all likely" to vote for her. But the media
gets overwhelmingly bad reviews, with 53 percent of Americans
saying that coverage of Palin has been "unfairly negative" while
only 9 percent say it's "unfairly positive" and 28 percent say
it's "about right."
Gallup notes:
Palin's abrupt resignation with 18 months left in her first
term as governor has probably raised more questions than
answers about her political future. But the move has apparently
not affected Americans' basic opinions of her to a large
degree. As political observers eagerly await her next career
move, roughly 19% of U.S. voters say they would be very likely
to vote for her should she run for president in 2012, and
another 24% say they would be somewhat likely to do so. While
still the minority of all voters, it is perhaps not a bad start
for an election still three years away, and arguably could put
Palin in a better starting position than some of the
lesser-known GOP candidates who may also seek the party's
presidential nomination.
What the poll does not measure, however, is the opportunity cost
of Palin's decision. While most Americans' opinions of Palin were
largely unmoved by the act of quitting itself, the fact that she
is leaving office after two and a half years makes will make it
harder to convince skeptics who believe she does not have the
necessary experience to be president.
You judged her too soon, Klein. So many of you guys underestimate
her.
Sarah's crazy---like a fox and I believe she's a force to be
reckoned with. At least she's never dull.
Sarah Baynes| 7.7.09 @ 6:38PM
Sarah Palin could do the country a mountain of good if she were
able to bring the truth of all this administrations take over of
our country without an outrage. Those of us who are outraged have
no spokesperson. She would be a wonder and able to reach the
people who can make a difference and help save us from fiscal
ruin.
Liberal Reader| 7.7.09 @ 6:42PM
This poll says nothing.
Less than a week after an event polls don't register accurate
information. But even if it is accurate, all it says is that
people who liked her before still like her, and people who didn't
like her still don't like her.
Flower Power| 7.7.09 @ 6:57PM
Well, NO ONE here likes you Liberal Reader troll. Go back under
the slimy rock from whence you came.
hermit| 7.7.09 @ 7:03PM
It don't mean nothin, it don't mean nothin nothin nothin...... I
just can't stop laughing at the drive of her detracters to
convince themselves of her insignificance...
ahhh yes smell the air... fear.. I can smell it.
Mary| 7.7.09 @ 7:32PM
I'm not surprised at these numbers. This isn't a nunber that's
likely to change because no one is going to be sitting around
contemplating the question(s) involved. What she does from here
on in will matter tremendously.
Obama was elected without any experience. His experience at the
time of the election was less than Palin's. His position papers
meant nothing to 95% of the electorate. His resume was very thin
for a man his age. His stint as Sr. Law Lecturer sounds nice, but
it's worthless in terms of understanding bread and butter issues.
It's not like he's Gerry Spence material.
He opened the door for Palin and thinner resumes. I say thinner
because how padded was that of Clinton or Bush, really? Clinton's
Arkansas ranked 49 out of 50 in education.
In President Bush's years as a business man, what was his
success/failure record?
Did Clinton's removal of Glass-Steagall help to cause economic
collapse? (I listen to Bob Brinker of Money Talks and he thinks
the act was a decent piece of regulation that worked well for a
very long time. I wonder what Louis Rukeyser would say?)
When '12 rolls around Obama will be able to say "I've been doing
this for 4 years now, and while I still give one hell of a
speech, so everyone tells me, now I know something about debt
too. If you'll give me another four years I'm sure you know I'll
come to know something about retiring debt as well." "And what
about those jobs I saved or created?"
What if she starts soliciting advice from Giuliani? She's not an
ideologue. Might she be able to follow Obama's litany by asking
him if he intends to instruct us on how to appreciate a lower
standard of living?
Unless the economy rebounds successfully, with a 90s feel; he's
vulnerable. And while, I'm no economist, I think the 90s, like
the 60s aren't coming back anytime too soon.
Mary| 7.7.09 @ 7:38PM
That should read Money Talk, not talks.
Alan Brooks| 7.7.09 @ 9:48PM
she might win the nominatiion in 2012,
but she would lose the election to the black Clinton redux 1996
question now is: who is the space colonization/ immortality au Go
Go Gingrich-imitation of next year?
Carly| 7.7.09 @ 9:55PM
The clueless remain clueless post at
http://iamsoannoyed.com/?p=2098
Ran| 7.7.09 @ 10:33PM
Mary, great to see you.
Mr. Klein, please spare us the "necessary experience" criterion.
I don't believe I'm alone when I say I would prefer "necessary
value system" and "necessary commitment to the Constitution" over
"experience." Especially when effete pundits set the "experience"
standard.
Further, I'm not interested in "experience" when "experience" is
relative to the task of Governing: Point of fact, not a few of us
want the next leader to actively reduce Government, to roll-back
Federal powers and to un-do much of the "progress" of statist
cancer. Someone "experienced" in the political art of compromise
is exactly what we don't want. [The only potential candidate I
can think of with any relevant experience in this regard happens
to be Palin, though that may be unfair to good Governors I've
overlooked.] What we need is someone willing to create the
unfamiliar art of re-Constituting our Nation.
I don't yet know if Palin is that candidate. I do know I'm ruling
out Newt and any other squish who thinks he can do Statist
"smarter" than the Democrats.
Roy| 7.7.09 @ 10:56PM
Actually, 30% is an awfully high number to have their opinion
affected by one decision.
Of course, you have to subtract out the kind of people who are
going to say "more positive" or "more negative" to everything,
but still.
Honestly, I think the Left, acting through the media, will be
able to play bait and switch forever on allegedly important
qualifications. Get a genius with 30 years of experience in
government and suddenly "youth" and "hopeychange" will be
absolutely vital, and subservient conservative pundits will go
along. It'll always be that yes they'd like a conservative
president, just never THIS conservative president.
Mary| 7.7.09 @ 11:15PM
Ran,
Feeling is mutual.
I'm ruling out Newt too. IMO, he's not electable. And his weasel
factor is up there. No more weasels, Ran.
I don't think McCain was a weasel, by the way. He never had the
affection for conservatives that he should have had. I was glad
to see him come to Palin's defense recently, though I think he
should have done so long before this.
Palin was asked today if she regretted saying yes to McCain, and
she beamed as she said no. I respect that very much. She had
reason to feel abandoned by him, if she wanted to.
I wish her the best, I really do.
Ran I agree with you about rolling back powers, but I think we
have to steel ourselves to the understanding that it can't be
done overnight. If Palin (or whoever) wins she's going to have to
govern and that usually means reform by piecemeal.
A lot of us have taken Pell grants ourselves or for our children.
A lot of us have received unemployment. One of the biggest
problems we face is that we're philosophically conservative but
operationally liberal. I don't mean you, Ran. I mean Americans in
general.
We need to believe in ourselves again. And you know what, that's
exactly what Reagan's gift was, the ability to make us believe in
ourselves again.
Obama is almost always the brooding, morose president.
Basil Plumley| 7.8.09 @ 7:43AM
Ran and Mary
Very good points. I must repeat Ran's point made in another post
(in another thread) that our job starts now for 2010. We have to
make sure the GOP candidates are very conservative or at the very
least committed to the points you both espoused here.
Charles K. Hamster| 7.8.09 @ 9:40AM
Do not be fooled by polls, Mr. Klein. You and I had this called
correctly immediately after she announced. It was a political
suicide, until I say otherwise. Carry on.
Thomas| 7.8.09 @ 9:54AM
Ok, several points in this thread.
First, Palin quits. Every single group in American that opposes
Sarah Palin the politician is highly critical of this decision.
Democrats, liberals, the media and moderate Republicans all
unanimously oppose her decision to quit. When all of your enemies
oppose your actions, you might just have hit on something.
Conservatives have to realize one thing. We [conservatives] are
responsible for the election of Barack Obama. Liberals are going
to vote for the most liberal candidate, always. Independents vote
on a whim, but they usually vote for liberals. Conservatives vote
for conservatives or not at all. And it was those that stayed
home on election day who swung the election for Obama. Now we
have an entrenched liberal kook Congress, a socialist President,
wacko environmentalists, crazed crackpot dictators and
politically correct media cowards trying to bring down the
nation. And only conoservatives can stop it.
Flower Power| 7.8.09 @ 11:19AM
Thomas, I'll cop to a lot of things, but electing that fool
president is not and never will be one of them.
I shall let the idiots who voted for him have that dubious honor.
Thanks anyway.
Liberal Reader| 7.8.09 @ 11:27AM
Thomas --
Your assertion that "independents vote for liberals" is false.
People who describe themselves as "liberals" make up less than
20% of the electorate.
Independents by and large vote Republican.
My evidence?
See American history since WWII.
Eisenhower -- 2 terms
Kennedy -- 1 term
Johnson -- 1 term
Nixon -- 2 terms
Carter -- 1 term
Reagan -- 2 terms
Bush Sr - 1 term
Clinton -- 2 terms
Bush Jr. -- 2 terms. (Well, I agree, that's complicated.)
Add it up.
Thomas| 7.8.09 @ 1:29PM
LR,
Sorry, dude, but there are no true conservatives on your list.
All governed to the left on social issues, which are the issues
that drive independents. Republican does not equal conservative,
as the last election proved.
Now, what you failed to take into account in your list is who the
Republican candidate was when the Democrats won office. In every
case, none was conservative enough to get most of the
conservative voters to the polls. When that happens, Republicans
lose, all of the time.
Hey Klein, you are up against a whole lot of emotion here--the
Palin-lovers, understandably angered by the vile treatment she
and her family got from the "progressive" media, don't take
kindly to your rational and rigorous analysis, but as you point
out above, her decision will have a real opportunity cost. That's
just reality. Instead of jumping all over you, fellow
conservatives should be thanking you for your rigorous
examination of facts and analysis of events. Thanks for upholding
a true journalistic objectivity, as ever--it takes guts.
Hey Klein, you are up against a whole lot of emotion here--the
Palin-lovers, understandably angered by the vile treatment she
and her family got from the "progressive" media, don't take
kindly to your rational and rigorous analysis, but as you point
out above, her decision will have a real opportunity cost. That's
just reality. Instead of jumping all over you, fellow
conservatives should be thanking you for your rigorous
examination of facts and analysis of events. Thanks for upholding
true journalistic objectivity, as ever--it takes guts.
Tootsie| 7.9.09 @ 9:46PM
Heather, we don't have to thank Klein for his 'objectivity'--we
have you to do it for us. Too bad there are no objective liberal
journalists, huh?
Angel| 7.7.09 @ 6:03PM
You judged her too soon, Klein. So many of you guys underestimate her.
Sarah's crazy---like a fox and I believe she's a force to be reckoned with. At least she's never dull.
Sarah Baynes| 7.7.09 @ 6:38PM
Sarah Palin could do the country a mountain of good if she were able to bring the truth of all this administrations take over of our country without an outrage. Those of us who are outraged have no spokesperson. She would be a wonder and able to reach the people who can make a difference and help save us from fiscal ruin.
Liberal Reader| 7.7.09 @ 6:42PM
This poll says nothing.
Less than a week after an event polls don't register accurate information. But even if it is accurate, all it says is that people who liked her before still like her, and people who didn't like her still don't like her.
Flower Power| 7.7.09 @ 6:57PM
Well, NO ONE here likes you Liberal Reader troll. Go back under the slimy rock from whence you came.
hermit| 7.7.09 @ 7:03PM
It don't mean nothin, it don't mean nothin nothin nothin...... I just can't stop laughing at the drive of her detracters to convince themselves of her insignificance...
ahhh yes smell the air... fear.. I can smell it.
Mary| 7.7.09 @ 7:32PM
I'm not surprised at these numbers. This isn't a nunber that's likely to change because no one is going to be sitting around contemplating the question(s) involved. What she does from here on in will matter tremendously.
Obama was elected without any experience. His experience at the time of the election was less than Palin's. His position papers meant nothing to 95% of the electorate. His resume was very thin for a man his age. His stint as Sr. Law Lecturer sounds nice, but it's worthless in terms of understanding bread and butter issues. It's not like he's Gerry Spence material.
He opened the door for Palin and thinner resumes. I say thinner because how padded was that of Clinton or Bush, really? Clinton's Arkansas ranked 49 out of 50 in education.
In President Bush's years as a business man, what was his success/failure record?
Did Clinton's removal of Glass-Steagall help to cause economic collapse? (I listen to Bob Brinker of Money Talks and he thinks the act was a decent piece of regulation that worked well for a very long time. I wonder what Louis Rukeyser would say?)
When '12 rolls around Obama will be able to say "I've been doing this for 4 years now, and while I still give one hell of a speech, so everyone tells me, now I know something about debt too. If you'll give me another four years I'm sure you know I'll come to know something about retiring debt as well." "And what about those jobs I saved or created?"
What if she starts soliciting advice from Giuliani? She's not an ideologue. Might she be able to follow Obama's litany by asking him if he intends to instruct us on how to appreciate a lower standard of living?
Unless the economy rebounds successfully, with a 90s feel; he's vulnerable. And while, I'm no economist, I think the 90s, like the 60s aren't coming back anytime too soon.
Mary| 7.7.09 @ 7:38PM
That should read Money Talk, not talks.
Alan Brooks| 7.7.09 @ 9:48PM
she might win the nominatiion in 2012,
but she would lose the election to the black Clinton redux 1996
question now is: who is the space colonization/ immortality au Go Go Gingrich-imitation of next year?
Carly| 7.7.09 @ 9:55PM
The clueless remain clueless post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?p=2098
Ran| 7.7.09 @ 10:33PM
Mary, great to see you.
Mr. Klein, please spare us the "necessary experience" criterion. I don't believe I'm alone when I say I would prefer "necessary value system" and "necessary commitment to the Constitution" over "experience." Especially when effete pundits set the "experience" standard.
Further, I'm not interested in "experience" when "experience" is relative to the task of Governing: Point of fact, not a few of us want the next leader to actively reduce Government, to roll-back Federal powers and to un-do much of the "progress" of statist cancer. Someone "experienced" in the political art of compromise is exactly what we don't want. [The only potential candidate I can think of with any relevant experience in this regard happens to be Palin, though that may be unfair to good Governors I've overlooked.] What we need is someone willing to create the unfamiliar art of re-Constituting our Nation.
I don't yet know if Palin is that candidate. I do know I'm ruling out Newt and any other squish who thinks he can do Statist "smarter" than the Democrats.
Roy| 7.7.09 @ 10:56PM
Actually, 30% is an awfully high number to have their opinion affected by one decision.
Of course, you have to subtract out the kind of people who are going to say "more positive" or "more negative" to everything, but still.
Honestly, I think the Left, acting through the media, will be able to play bait and switch forever on allegedly important qualifications. Get a genius with 30 years of experience in government and suddenly "youth" and "hopeychange" will be absolutely vital, and subservient conservative pundits will go along. It'll always be that yes they'd like a conservative president, just never THIS conservative president.
Mary| 7.7.09 @ 11:15PM
Ran,
Feeling is mutual.
I'm ruling out Newt too. IMO, he's not electable. And his weasel factor is up there. No more weasels, Ran.
I don't think McCain was a weasel, by the way. He never had the affection for conservatives that he should have had. I was glad to see him come to Palin's defense recently, though I think he should have done so long before this.
Palin was asked today if she regretted saying yes to McCain, and she beamed as she said no. I respect that very much. She had reason to feel abandoned by him, if she wanted to.
I wish her the best, I really do.
Ran I agree with you about rolling back powers, but I think we have to steel ourselves to the understanding that it can't be done overnight. If Palin (or whoever) wins she's going to have to govern and that usually means reform by piecemeal.
A lot of us have taken Pell grants ourselves or for our children. A lot of us have received unemployment. One of the biggest problems we face is that we're philosophically conservative but operationally liberal. I don't mean you, Ran. I mean Americans in general.
We need to believe in ourselves again. And you know what, that's exactly what Reagan's gift was, the ability to make us believe in ourselves again.
Obama is almost always the brooding, morose president.
Basil Plumley| 7.8.09 @ 7:43AM
Ran and Mary
Very good points. I must repeat Ran's point made in another post (in another thread) that our job starts now for 2010. We have to make sure the GOP candidates are very conservative or at the very least committed to the points you both espoused here.
Charles K. Hamster| 7.8.09 @ 9:40AM
Do not be fooled by polls, Mr. Klein. You and I had this called correctly immediately after she announced. It was a political suicide, until I say otherwise. Carry on.
Thomas| 7.8.09 @ 9:54AM
Ok, several points in this thread.
First, Palin quits. Every single group in American that opposes Sarah Palin the politician is highly critical of this decision. Democrats, liberals, the media and moderate Republicans all unanimously oppose her decision to quit. When all of your enemies oppose your actions, you might just have hit on something.
Conservatives have to realize one thing. We [conservatives] are responsible for the election of Barack Obama. Liberals are going to vote for the most liberal candidate, always. Independents vote on a whim, but they usually vote for liberals. Conservatives vote for conservatives or not at all. And it was those that stayed home on election day who swung the election for Obama. Now we have an entrenched liberal kook Congress, a socialist President, wacko environmentalists, crazed crackpot dictators and politically correct media cowards trying to bring down the nation. And only conoservatives can stop it.
Flower Power| 7.8.09 @ 11:19AM
Thomas, I'll cop to a lot of things, but electing that fool president is not and never will be one of them.
I shall let the idiots who voted for him have that dubious honor. Thanks anyway.
Liberal Reader| 7.8.09 @ 11:27AM
Thomas --
Your assertion that "independents vote for liberals" is false.
People who describe themselves as "liberals" make up less than 20% of the electorate.
Independents by and large vote Republican.
My evidence?
See American history since WWII.
Eisenhower -- 2 terms
Kennedy -- 1 term
Johnson -- 1 term
Nixon -- 2 terms
Carter -- 1 term
Reagan -- 2 terms
Bush Sr - 1 term
Clinton -- 2 terms
Bush Jr. -- 2 terms. (Well, I agree, that's complicated.)
Add it up.
Thomas| 7.8.09 @ 1:29PM
LR,
Sorry, dude, but there are no true conservatives on your list. All governed to the left on social issues, which are the issues that drive independents. Republican does not equal conservative, as the last election proved.
Now, what you failed to take into account in your list is who the Republican candidate was when the Democrats won office. In every case, none was conservative enough to get most of the conservative voters to the polls. When that happens, Republicans lose, all of the time.
Heather Robinson| 7.8.09 @ 6:46PM
Hey Klein, you are up against a whole lot of emotion here--the Palin-lovers, understandably angered by the vile treatment she and her family got from the "progressive" media, don't take kindly to your rational and rigorous analysis, but as you point out above, her decision will have a real opportunity cost. That's just reality. Instead of jumping all over you, fellow conservatives should be thanking you for your rigorous examination of facts and analysis of events. Thanks for upholding a true journalistic objectivity, as ever--it takes guts.
Heather Robinson| 7.8.09 @ 6:47PM
Hey Klein, you are up against a whole lot of emotion here--the Palin-lovers, understandably angered by the vile treatment she and her family got from the "progressive" media, don't take kindly to your rational and rigorous analysis, but as you point out above, her decision will have a real opportunity cost. That's just reality. Instead of jumping all over you, fellow conservatives should be thanking you for your rigorous examination of facts and analysis of events. Thanks for upholding true journalistic objectivity, as ever--it takes guts.
Tootsie| 7.9.09 @ 9:46PM
Heather, we don't have to thank Klein for his 'objectivity'--we have you to do it for us. Too bad there are no objective liberal journalists, huh?