Another sad aspect of tragedies such as yesterday's is that they
must instantly play out within our noxious political culture.
It's really sickening to see how liberals can hear that a
security guard got shot to death in a an attack on an
insititution dedicated to memorializing the systematic murder of
millions of innocent people, and instantly think of how they can
exploit the event to score
cheap political points. But I don't think conservatives are
innocent here either, and I don't think the way to respond to the
absurd claims on the left is to try to
turn the tables in an attempt to tie liberals to this
atrocious act of violence. At some point, we have to say, enough
is enough. This has got to stop. I disagree with liberals
ideologically, and I'm passionate enough about my own beliefs
that I made a career out of defending them. But however
passionately I may disagree with liberals, I do not think --other
than the fringiest of the fringe -- that they want to see a U.S.
soldier killed at a recruiting station. Why can't we acknowledge
that there are some absolute lunatics in this world who will
commit violence for all sorts of reasons, and that they have
nothing in common with people -- left or right -- who are merely
vocal about politcal views. David
Berkowitz (aka Son of Sam) killed because he believed he was
ordered to do so by a demon who posessed a dog, and John Hinckley
shot Reagan because he was obsessed with Jodie Foster. Anybody
who murders another innocent human being -- whether an abortion
provider, a soldier, or a museum guard -- is operating on a whole
different level than a television host or political blogger. We
all know this. Why can't we just be grownups about it and just
honor the memory of the dead in these circumstances, rather than
turn it into another bitter political battle?
"Why can't we acknowledge that there are some absolute lunatics
in this world who will commit violence for all sorts of reasons"
While I agree with you, this is precisely where it gets
political. In liberal utopia no one wants to hurt anyone else for
any reason - hence our recent world apologies, soft stance on
terror/nuclear weapons, and lowering of the defense budget. So it
only makes sense for them to blame the other side when, time
after time, their world view is proven wrong.
Philip, you speak truth;BUT the left is historically guilty of
which you speak! The left's initial [MSM] attack line was RIGHT
WING GUNMAN KILLS TWO AT MUSEUM. The left [via our government]
produced a report indicating conservatives and returning military
war veterans should ve investigated for subversive activities.
The left has a TV media outlet [MSNBC] devoted entirely to
politically smearing conservatism. the list goes on. Why is it
that liberals can throw bambs and hand grenades in politics, and
then someone such as Philip, even though well intentioned, says
LETS ALL PLAY NICE NOW??????
BJC| 6.11.09 @ 2:11PM
Mr. Klein, I know you meant this semi-rhetorically when you
wrote, "Why can't we just be grownups about it and just honor the
memory of the dead in these circumstances, rather than turn it
into another bitter political battle? " But the short answer is
"Because the Leftists won't let us." They attack those of us on
the political Right, falsely accusing us of some complicity in
lunatic acts of violence. We have to address these vicious
slanders; otherwise, an unchallenged Leftist-bigot slur against
conservatives gains credence. Look how well that worked out for
George W. Bush in not answering his critics volubly -- and the
bad place that's gotten us on the Right now.
To the political Left, everything -- everything! -- is political.
In a way we are fighting an uphill battle here, because to us on
the Right, lunacy isn't really considered political at all, and
we conservatives don't believe craziness ought to be admitted
into normal political discourse and debate. By contrast, the Left
is populated with crazies upon loons upon madmen, and the
Leftists generally humor them, celebrate them, reward them with
political concessions for being the more "effective" members of
their coalition. Nothing at all like that occurs on the political
Right.
And in fact the most prominent news events suggesting
anti-Semitism just prior to the Holocaust Museum shooting came
from Barack Hussein Obama's quarter -- that news photo of him
showing the sole of his shoe insultingly while on the phone to
Israel and Obama's former minister Jeremiah Wright accusing "them
Jews" of not allowing him to contact BHO. But will you hear
anyone on the Left even entertain the possibility that BHO and
his cronies fomented the Jew-hate that manifested itself in
attacking the Holocaust Museum? Not likely. But anti-Semitism is
rife on the political Left, next to nil on the political Right.
NavyBrat| 6.11.09 @ 3:08PM
"But anti-Semitism is rife on the political Left, next to nil on
the political Right."
BJC. Game, set, match! Unfortunately, this is one of the most
obvious, yet never reported facts in our society today. The left
has succeeded in twisting history to the point that no one
remembers that fascism & socialism are LEFT WING ideologies.
They've done so with a monopoly on education & the media. It
will be a long, hard slog to overturn this indoctrination in our
culture.
Mike| 6.11.09 @ 3:13PM
Thank you Mr. Klein for saying something that needed to be said.
You wrote, "Anybody who murders another innocent human being --
whether an abortion provider, a soldier, or a museum guard -- is
operating on a whole different level than a television host or
political blogger." True, but we all position ourselves somewhere
on a continuum. Take for example Philip Klein, Rush Limbaugh, Ann
Coulter and von Brunn. The movement is from reasonable to extreme
ending in pathological. These three murders should be an occasion
for each of us to look at where we sit on the continuum heading
either to the extreme right or the extreme left.
Mike| 6.11.09 @ 3:17PM
Thank you Mr. Klein for saying something that needed to be said.
You wrote, "Anybody who murders another innocent human being --
whether an abortion provider, a soldier, or a museum guard -- is
operating on a whole different level than a television host or
political blogger." True, but we all position ourselves somewhere
on a continuum. Take for example Philip Klein, Rush Limbaugh, Ann
Coulter and von Brunn. The movement is from reasonable to extreme
ending in pathological. These three murders should be an occasion
for each of us to look at where we sit on the continuum heading
either to the extreme right or the extreme left.
MattSwartz| 6.11.09 @ 3:30PM
It's always an interesting debate when people argue whether
fascism (and white supremacism is fascist) is on the right or the
left.
There are good arguments for both, but yesterday a blogger blew
my mind by suggesting that it was a radically centrist idea.
It makes sense, really, since it melds conservative ideas about
tradition with liberal confidence in the power of the total
state.
JimH| 6.11.09 @ 7:09PM
I waited for a while to see if anyone would mention this. Even if
one was against the killing of him, it does seem problematic at
best to refer to a 3rd trimester abortionist as innocent.
Mike Lee| 6.11.09 @ 10:40PM
We shouldn't play patty cake we these left wing lunatics. You
don't bring a knife to a gunfight. We have to start taking down
their leaders just the way they try to take down ours. Not with
trumped up lies like they do but with the truth and with fighting
spirit. But we must play hardball. Give them the same tactics
until the cooler headed decent liberals agree to distance
themselves from the Soros funded, Daily Kos wusses an the other
assorted crazies. Then, When they are ready to discuss our
differences with decorum then we can talk. WFB distanced
conservatives from the John Birchers and the Ayn Rand devotees.
The saner liberals need to do the same. I'm ready when they are.
Angel| 6.11.09 @ 11:30PM
Mike, take for example: David Letterman, Keith Olbermann,
Reverend Jeremiah Wright and von Brunn--where do you fit in that
continuum?
Hmmmm?
After all, von Brunn is a registered Democrat, you know? I guess
YOUR party is reasonable (?) to extreme ending in pathological.
Mostly pathological.
Angel| 6.11.09 @ 11:44PM
Too bad your sage comments weren't posted on Huff/Post, Phil. It
would never happen in a million years.
I'm so damned sick and tired of bringing a butter knife to a gun
fight. No wonder we are screwed on the Right--street fighters
always win over a nice guy. That's just the way it is in the
jungle.
May be we won't survive as a movement--we just don't have the
will. We won't end with a bang, we'll end with a whimper.
Pathetic.
Kitty| 6.12.09 @ 7:11AM
BJC is right when s/he wrote, 'the short answer is "Because the
Leftists won't let us."'
Pete| 6.11.09 @ 11:55AM
"Why can't we acknowledge that there are some absolute lunatics in this world who will commit violence for all sorts of reasons"
While I agree with you, this is precisely where it gets political. In liberal utopia no one wants to hurt anyone else for any reason - hence our recent world apologies, soft stance on terror/nuclear weapons, and lowering of the defense budget. So it only makes sense for them to blame the other side when, time after time, their world view is proven wrong.
Matthew Vadum| 6.11.09 @ 12:21PM
Nicely put, Philip.
Oldefarte| 6.11.09 @ 2:06PM
Philip, you speak truth;BUT the left is historically guilty of which you speak! The left's initial [MSM] attack line was RIGHT WING GUNMAN KILLS TWO AT MUSEUM. The left [via our government] produced a report indicating conservatives and returning military war veterans should ve investigated for subversive activities. The left has a TV media outlet [MSNBC] devoted entirely to politically smearing conservatism. the list goes on. Why is it that liberals can throw bambs and hand grenades in politics, and then someone such as Philip, even though well intentioned, says LETS ALL PLAY NICE NOW??????
BJC| 6.11.09 @ 2:11PM
Mr. Klein, I know you meant this semi-rhetorically when you wrote, "Why can't we just be grownups about it and just honor the memory of the dead in these circumstances, rather than turn it into another bitter political battle? " But the short answer is "Because the Leftists won't let us." They attack those of us on the political Right, falsely accusing us of some complicity in lunatic acts of violence. We have to address these vicious slanders; otherwise, an unchallenged Leftist-bigot slur against conservatives gains credence. Look how well that worked out for George W. Bush in not answering his critics volubly -- and the bad place that's gotten us on the Right now.
To the political Left, everything -- everything! -- is political. In a way we are fighting an uphill battle here, because to us on the Right, lunacy isn't really considered political at all, and we conservatives don't believe craziness ought to be admitted into normal political discourse and debate. By contrast, the Left is populated with crazies upon loons upon madmen, and the Leftists generally humor them, celebrate them, reward them with political concessions for being the more "effective" members of their coalition. Nothing at all like that occurs on the political Right.
And in fact the most prominent news events suggesting anti-Semitism just prior to the Holocaust Museum shooting came from Barack Hussein Obama's quarter -- that news photo of him showing the sole of his shoe insultingly while on the phone to Israel and Obama's former minister Jeremiah Wright accusing "them Jews" of not allowing him to contact BHO. But will you hear anyone on the Left even entertain the possibility that BHO and his cronies fomented the Jew-hate that manifested itself in attacking the Holocaust Museum? Not likely. But anti-Semitism is rife on the political Left, next to nil on the political Right.
NavyBrat| 6.11.09 @ 3:08PM
"But anti-Semitism is rife on the political Left, next to nil on the political Right."
BJC. Game, set, match! Unfortunately, this is one of the most obvious, yet never reported facts in our society today. The left has succeeded in twisting history to the point that no one remembers that fascism & socialism are LEFT WING ideologies. They've done so with a monopoly on education & the media. It will be a long, hard slog to overturn this indoctrination in our culture.
Mike| 6.11.09 @ 3:13PM
Thank you Mr. Klein for saying something that needed to be said. You wrote, "Anybody who murders another innocent human being -- whether an abortion provider, a soldier, or a museum guard -- is operating on a whole different level than a television host or political blogger." True, but we all position ourselves somewhere on a continuum. Take for example Philip Klein, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and von Brunn. The movement is from reasonable to extreme ending in pathological. These three murders should be an occasion for each of us to look at where we sit on the continuum heading either to the extreme right or the extreme left.
Mike| 6.11.09 @ 3:17PM
Thank you Mr. Klein for saying something that needed to be said. You wrote, "Anybody who murders another innocent human being -- whether an abortion provider, a soldier, or a museum guard -- is operating on a whole different level than a television host or political blogger." True, but we all position ourselves somewhere on a continuum. Take for example Philip Klein, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and von Brunn. The movement is from reasonable to extreme ending in pathological. These three murders should be an occasion for each of us to look at where we sit on the continuum heading either to the extreme right or the extreme left.
MattSwartz| 6.11.09 @ 3:30PM
It's always an interesting debate when people argue whether fascism (and white supremacism is fascist) is on the right or the left.
There are good arguments for both, but yesterday a blogger blew my mind by suggesting that it was a radically centrist idea. It makes sense, really, since it melds conservative ideas about tradition with liberal confidence in the power of the total state.
JimH| 6.11.09 @ 7:09PM
I waited for a while to see if anyone would mention this. Even if one was against the killing of him, it does seem problematic at best to refer to a 3rd trimester abortionist as innocent.
Mike Lee| 6.11.09 @ 10:40PM
We shouldn't play patty cake we these left wing lunatics. You don't bring a knife to a gunfight. We have to start taking down their leaders just the way they try to take down ours. Not with trumped up lies like they do but with the truth and with fighting spirit. But we must play hardball. Give them the same tactics until the cooler headed decent liberals agree to distance themselves from the Soros funded, Daily Kos wusses an the other assorted crazies. Then, When they are ready to discuss our differences with decorum then we can talk. WFB distanced conservatives from the John Birchers and the Ayn Rand devotees. The saner liberals need to do the same. I'm ready when they are.
Angel| 6.11.09 @ 11:30PM
Mike, take for example: David Letterman, Keith Olbermann, Reverend Jeremiah Wright and von Brunn--where do you fit in that continuum?
Hmmmm?
After all, von Brunn is a registered Democrat, you know? I guess YOUR party is reasonable (?) to extreme ending in pathological. Mostly pathological.
Angel| 6.11.09 @ 11:44PM
Too bad your sage comments weren't posted on Huff/Post, Phil. It would never happen in a million years.
I'm so damned sick and tired of bringing a butter knife to a gun fight. No wonder we are screwed on the Right--street fighters always win over a nice guy. That's just the way it is in the jungle.
May be we won't survive as a movement--we just don't have the will. We won't end with a bang, we'll end with a whimper. Pathetic.
Kitty| 6.12.09 @ 7:11AM
BJC is right when s/he wrote, 'the short answer is "Because the Leftists won't let us."'
Chicago thugs are in charge now.
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