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WeinerGate Stalemate
Can shame force the shameless Democrat out of Congress?
Police showed up Friday afternoon at the home of a 17-year-old girl in Delaware who had been among Rep. Anthony Weiner’s online fans. Within 24 hours, three top Democrats issued calls for Weiner’s resignation.
The timing was merely a coincidence, some Democratic sources told reporters. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Steve Israel had actually been planning to release their statements anyway. Their “coordinated effort was [already] in the works,” one insider told Russell Berman of the Hill, adding that the statements “were released on Saturday to get ahead of the Sunday shows and the return of lawmakers on Monday.” So while the Brooklyn congressman was announcing that he would take a leave of absence to seek “professional treatment” for whatever compulsions led to the scandal that has become known as WeinerGate, his Democratic colleagues were chiefly concerned about working the news cycle to their advantage.
Democrats appear increasingly desperate to put political distance between their party and the disastrously disgraced Weiner, because they have no idea what further revelations await. Pelosi and other Democrats have no control over the relentless drip, drip, drip in this scandal that began more than two weeks ago when Weiner accidently published on his Twitter account a lewd photo of his crotch. He had intended to send that photo privately to a 21-year-old college student from Seattle, but by a simple error — “possibly the worst typo in the history of politics,” as conservative blogger Ace of Spades says — Weiner’s online modus operandi was exposed to the more than 40,000 people following his Twitter feed. Among those followers were several of Weiner’s political enemies who for weeks had tried to call attention to the 46-year-old married congressman’s pattern of Internet interactions with women, ranging from a porn star to the teenager whose communications with Weiner brought her to the attention of Delaware police on Friday.
Weiner said there was nothing “indecent” or “explicit” in his private exchanges with the Delaware girl, and police quickly issued a statement saying they found no evidence warranting criminal charges, yet Friday’s news highlighted the utter recklessness of Weiner’s online escapades. Since April, the Democrat’s enemies — led by a Twitter user calling himself Dan Wolfe — had been trying to draw attention to the suspiciously large number of attractive young women among the relatively small number of people Weiner was following on Twitter. Only when two Twitter users are following each other can they exchange private direct messages (DMs), which raised the question of why a member of Congress would be following a 17-year-old. In April, the girl boasted in a public Twitter message about her acquaintance with the congressman (“talking to Rep Weiner from New York right now! is my life real?”), which disturbed Wolfe.
“Weiner’s fixation on the young girls… bothered me especially,” the mysterious Wolfe said in one of his few online interviews about the WeinerGate scandal, two days before the Democrat’s June 6 press conference confession. Wolfe and others had known Weiner was exchanging DMs with women he followed because some of them, including porn performer Ginger Lee, bragged about those private messages. Even though Wolfe and his friends raised an outcry on Twitter, calling Weiner a “freak” for following teenagers, the congressman was evidently undeterred. At one point, the Delaware teen complained that he had stopped following her, and when Weiner resumed following her in mid-May, the girl sent out a public message on Twitter: “SERIOUSLY LOVING LIFE AGAIN BUT I GOTTA KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT OR ELSE.”
Weiner’s online connections with young girls were all but ignored by most reporters in their early coverage of the scandal, which was first reported May 28 by Andrew Breitbart’s BigGovernment.com. After Breitbart mentioned that angle during a May 31 appearance on CNN to discuss the story, it drew a harsh response from that network’s senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin. “What Andrew Breitbart was insinuating about [Weiner] with young girls is outrageous,” Toobin said, dismissing the entire scandal as “a silly little thing that happened… not a big deal.” Weiner was then still insisting that he was the victim of a “prank” by “hackers.” A week later, at the press conference where Weiner admitted to having had “online relationships” with a half-dozen women, he was asked about his contacts with very young women, including the Seattle college student. “They were all adults — at least to the best of my knowledge they were all adults… and they were engaging in these conversations consensually,” Weiner replied, and when a similar question was raised later, he said, “I know that I never had any intention of having an interaction with underage women, and no information that I have now shows that I did.”
Those denials were greeted with suspicion by conservative bloggers who had covered the WeinerGate scandal from its inception, and who were becoming irritated by the mainstream media’s evident unwillingness to follow up with aggressive reporting. On Thursday, the blogger known as Patterico published two long articles (here and here) calling attention to the case of Weiner’s Delaware teen follower. Patterico particularly noted that the 17-year-old made reference to a super-hero costume of “cape and tights,” a motif that Weiner had used in extremely graphic online chats with Lisa Weiss, a 40-year-old Las Vegas blackjack dealer who was one of his cybersex partners. News organizations still ignored the story, however, until police showed up Friday at the girl’s house in New Castle County, Delaware. Even though police said their interview with the girl “disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity or inappropriate behavior,” the obvious objection was voiced by Ace of Spades: “A guy who sometimes sends [obscene photos of himself] to admirers should not be cultivating an online relationship with a 17 year old girl. Period.”
This may have been obvious enough even to Democrat leaders like Pelosi who, less than 24 hours before issuing her Saturday statement, had publicly refused to call for Weiner’s resignation. The scandal’s drip, drip, drip continued Sunday, when TMZ published photos of a nearly nude Weiner that the congressman had reportedly sent to one of his online admirers. Weiner had taken the photos of himself — including one showing him naked except for a towel held in front of his genital area — in the gymnasium for members of Congress in the basement of the Rayburn House Office Building. Beyond mere embarrassment, the photos contradicted Weiner’s claim that he did not use official resources to carry on his Internet dalliances. After the latest revelations, one source told the New York Daily News late Sunday, Weiner “finally began considering the possibility that he may have to resign.”
Is the “possibility” of Weiner quitting likely? Despite the public calls for his resignation from top Democrats, under House rules Weiner can’t be expelled from Congress until the Ethics Committee conducts an investigation, which could take months. Whatever might motivate Weiner to quit, it obviously can’t be shame. Anyone who has seen the middle-aged congressman’s photo self-portrait of himself posing naked in front a gym mirror must conclude that Weiner is utterly shameless.
About the Author
Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.
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The Bishop| 6.13.11 @ 6:24AM
As far as the Republican Party is concerned, Anthony Weiner is the gift that keeps on giving. What a schmuck!
drudge ette obama| 6.13.11 @ 6:43AM
Shame is an antiquated term and fits in with few people. It has been replaced with "oops, I am in trouble" and Weiner's wiggle to get out of trouble has nothing to do with his so-called "shame".
He seems to like taking pictures of himself. He seems to like the sexual banter. He seems to like likes the risk taking.
Here's his future:
1. Resignation
2. Forget the rehab - he hasn't gotten low enough yet to benefit from it.
3. Separation from wife.
4. Divorce
5. Obscurity - my favorite stage.
5. Book deal on
Kilgore Trout| 6.14.11 @ 8:51AM
6. Becomes client No. 9's co-host on CNN.
Julia W. from New York| 6.13.11 @ 7:13AM
Whatever can be said abour sex, it cannot be said that it's a dignified performance.
Every male reader of this post has participated in sexual acts so filthy that if they were brought to light, they would gag a goat. And if not participated in reality, at least in imagination.
When asked, "Is sex dirty?" Woody Allen replied, "Only when it's done right."
Come off your phony holier-than-thou attitude. You are just as kinky and twisted as the next man. A recent study on straight male tastes in pornography is revealing.
A Billion Wicked Thoughts by Ogi Ogas and Sai Gaddam analyzes a billion web searches from around the world and highlights the way in which the Internet apparently revolutionized sexual desires, making tastes once regarded as "deviant" more widespread.
The study of a billion porn searches shows clearly what men want, and it is not a pretty picture. Men enjoy a wider variety of erotica than previously thought, including sites devoted to elderly, unattractive women (mature) and transsexuals; cuckold porn, in which men are forced to watch their wives have sex with someone else. Black on white porn--several black men servicing a white woman.
Another favorite for straight men is the orgy with more men than women going at it. And men, according to the search data, really get off on "double penetration." This is when the woman is f**ked in the vagina and a** by two men at the same time. Kinda filthy, don't you think?
Cunnilingus and fallatio are so tame compared to what men really want, which is no holes barred.
And if the porno shows women in the most degrading, painful positions, all the better for the average male.
Nasty. That's a word that describes men's sexual fetishes, and with the internet making porno so availabe to every red-blooded man in the world, well, it's going to get a lot nastier.
Time for all you AmSpec porno surfers to confront the reality of your own sexual histories with your girlfriends, wives, strangers, whatever.
Depravity is evidently what you want more than anything. It's a real turn-on, isn't it?
Larry| 6.13.11 @ 8:02AM
How do you know about EVERY male reader here Julia?
Sounds as if you have some issues. MAJOR issues.
Nancy in NC| 6.13.11 @ 8:13AM
You, Julia, are the one putting filth on this site.
How can you assume you know anything or everything about every male?
I find your post disgusting.
K L| 6.13.11 @ 11:05AM
I read this book last week, and I heartily recommend it.
A Billion Wicked Thoughts provides a brilliant, thoroughly researched, and totally engaging analysis of human sexuality using vast and original analyses of the Internet. It furnishes an x-ray of male and female sexual minds and explains why they differ so profoundly. The insights it yields are often surprising, sometimes shocking, and never boring. I couldn't put the book down.
xenon| 6.13.11 @ 7:25PM
Is this an advertisement?
Melvin| 6.13.11 @ 8:18AM
Depravity, hmmm one aspect of this come to mind, only if your from New York City.
Like one twenty-something from New York City noted while being interviewed by some News Ferret, Democrats aren't the Party of morals, that is why we are not so uptight about this."
Maybe it's something in the water do ya think?
Melvin| 6.13.11 @ 8:27AM
One important aspect I forgot to note. Congressman Weiner dug his own grave when he lied about this whole thing for over two weeks.
I know this might sound foreign to you Julia, but what people are upset at is, Weiner's complete lack of integrity for marriage, his office, and his Country. He has brought shame upon us, he has made a laughing stock of all those in political office.
You seem to think that all people are like yourself and your perversions in your post. We're not, we're not holier than thou as you assume us to be. We're just regular people, who think it is a bit perverse to be a sitting member of Congress grasping one's crotch while in a towel in the House locker room. Congressman Weiner is an adult not some zit faced 13 year old discovering what his special purpose is down below, and partakes in this Sophomoric infantile behavior.
T H Huxley| 6.14.11 @ 1:05AM
I'd like to hear what Newt Gingrich, Mark Foley, David Craig, David Vitter, Mark Sanford, and John Ensign would have to say about the Weiner situation.
Groad| 6.13.11 @ 8:27AM
Don't think much of men I see. Too bad. Most of us are not as disgusting as you think they are. Too bad for you.
The Bishop| 6.13.11 @ 8:43AM
Julia, I'm very sorry and disappointed by your general view of men. Yes, there are many wretches with male appendages and you can find anything (including skewed statistics) on the internet. Melvin makes good points above. But you should seek help for that hate you are manifesting. Get well, my dear.
WRTolkas| 6.13.11 @ 8:35AM
Dear Miss Julia,
The last time an entire male population was tarred with the same brush was when some feminist organization at a university printed a list of potential rapists in the student newspaper: All the males that attended that institution. Then it was the Duke Lacrosse team charged with the gang rape of that "exotic dancer" now charged with murder.
How dare you. Once upon a time when such a gross and unfounded accusation was made, the issue was decided upon a field of honor. But then, from the type of representatives you elect and your post, you have shown you have no honor.
To answer your post, some men? Yes. Many men? Maybe. All men: NO!
WRTolkas
Lay Minister for French Colonial Era Re-Enactments,
Member of Promise Keepers,
Active member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church
Seek| 6.13.11 @ 5:08PM
Go back to the 18th century. I imagine that's high compliment to you.
LarryK| 6.13.11 @ 8:50AM
Wow, You must be a liberal at heart. The pretzel logic you use to condemn all men is the same that racists use to condemn others of a different color.
Typical Liberal!
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 8:56AM
Actually, Julia is right, but hypocrisy cuts both ways: best example is Whoopie Goldberg who defended Polanski though it was a case of outright rape.
Now if you so much as touched Whoopie's teenage grandkid or niece/nephew on the leg, you are going to get a letter from her attorney.
Julia will shrug what I wrote off- but she cannot entirely push it out of her mind.
cowgirl| 6.13.11 @ 9:57AM
Awww... Feminism at its finest...
John Navratil| 6.13.11 @ 10:03AM
Julia,
Whatever you think of sex (it seems a lot), two things seem quite clear; Weiner's behaviour was libertine, at least, and Weiner lied to protect himself (those are his words).
Even excusing Weiner's sexual behaviour, the man has demonstrated himself to be susceptible to blackmail. If he is willing to lie to same himself some embarrassment what else can he be expected to do?
Trust is easy to lose, hard to regain and required for the job he holds.
As for the rest of your projection: perhaps you can join Weiner in rehab.
RustyG| 6.13.11 @ 10:07AM
The perfect reply to Julia can be found on Instapundit today....
“The ‘it’s only sex’ Weiner defense and the ‘he’s seeking therapy for his illness’ defense sit uncomfortably together, no? I think maybe you have to pick one or the other!”
Doctor Right| 6.13.11 @ 12:30PM
Well, Julia, one would think that if sites "devoted to unattractive women..." are proliferating, that would cause you to rejoice!
After all, hope springs eternal, right?
DaveS| 6.13.11 @ 1:48PM
Yup, the 'everybody does it' assertion used by some many defenders of hyocrite Democrats - i.e. the family values ones. They are as rare as the already extinct pro-life ones.
florin| 6.13.11 @ 3:26PM
Where is your proof? I think you just like talking dirty!
Eric the Red| 6.13.11 @ 3:40PM
No, Florin, Julia has made a valid point--a point all conservatives should face about sexuality.
As an occasional viewer of online pornography, I see every act conceivable, and they are disgusting, but no more disgusting that what we do behind closed doors in our bedrooms.
Let's face it, sex is not a ladylike tea party.
It's dirty. When your father's sperm united with your mother's egg, they were f***ing like crazy. They were gettin' it on! And what "unusual" sexual things people do in their bedrooms, they would never admit.
You would be shocked to know the sexual fantasies of the man at work in the cube next to you.
Yes, f***ing is animalistic, and often anything goes. Anything.
Ben Stein| 6.13.11 @ 5:54PM
Eric, I beg to differ.
When my wife and I have sex, it's very much a ladylike tea party.
Purple Lips| 6.13.11 @ 3:39PM
Ahh...Julia,
Where have you been? Women now make up 45% of the porn purchasing market. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but many of the perverted web searches were made by women.
And you seem to be unaware that over 85% of the people who fantasized about some kind of kinky hook-up would never do it for real. What goes on in one's imagination, normally stays in one's imagination.
Eric the Red| 6.13.11 @ 5:12PM
Purple lips, where did you get the 45%? Women are a very small fraction of the market, and their taste is pornogrsphy is different from men. The porno they like shows the man LOVING the woman while having sex with her. One man/one woman.
Women are usually repelled when a woman is used like a whore--men stuffing their d***s, tongues, and toys into her every orifice.
Julia, in her post, listed the name of the book and authors.
You just made up a lie like you so often do.
Get enlightened. Read the book.
Cpm| 6.13.11 @ 5:57PM
Speak for yourself, Julia, it is obvious you have some major kinks of your own. Women are just as far out there as any guy, isn't that what feminism is all about? And for every nasty fetish you ascribe to men there are women more than willing to take part in it. They just aren't on the public dime tasked to do the nation's business by voters and taxpayers back home who have entrusted them to look out for their interests.
scythe| 6.13.11 @ 7:55PM
Psst...Julia...your projection is as obvious as Weiner's...
beebop| 6.13.11 @ 8:38PM
wow. how did Tony miss you?
Alexis| 6.16.11 @ 3:22PM
Soooo, your reply, Julia, is to attempt to stain everyone with the same brush so as to play down the inportance of what your guy has done?
I shudder to think what you would have talked about had he been guilty of child-abuse.
Oh, and I'm not a Republican. Not even American. Just sadly amused at the decay of the once-great republic.
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 8:48AM
In the past, if you did something wrong you were disgraced; today you get a book deal. After Weenie resigns, he might do better than as a politician-- with a book deal, honorariums, the TV Show bookings.
Weenie wont end up selling apples in the street.
Question: how many copies of "I want To Tell You' and '(If) I Did It' were sold? OJ didn't get the royalties as far as I know, but he did sell the books.
These days you are rewarded for being bad.
SETH Chodosh| 6.13.11 @ 3:30PM
Yup--- bad behavior--even illegal actions- do pay off--Senator Vitter will surely agree to that, eh..?
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 10:53AM
"1. Resignation
2. Forget the rehab - he hasn't gotten low enough yet to benefit from it.
3. Separation from wife.
4. Divorce
5. Obscurity - my favorite stage.
5. Book deal on."
#5, is the main one, drudge. Plus honorariums; paid (or paid in products/services) TV appearances; perhaps even a commercial or two. This is the best thing ever happened to him: Weenie can clean up!
BTW, Julia ironically and understandably got Woody Allen's truism backwards-- sex is NOT dirty anymore, it is cheap without the dirtiness.
jomo2009| 6.13.11 @ 3:30PM
If you're right Alan, that phone call from Oscar Mayer can't be too far off.
Juicy| 6.13.11 @ 5:21PM
Oh I wish I were an Oscar Meyer weiner,
That is what I'd really like to be,
For if I were an Oscar Meyer weiner,
You would lick me and then wrap your lips around me.
Occam's Tool| 6.13.11 @ 1:14PM
Yes. I want him to stay in office and NOT resign! We need more ineffective Democrats in Congress.
Drunken Sailor| 6.13.11 @ 4:00PM
OC,
There are effective ones? I would say successful but not effective
Occam's Tool| 6.13.11 @ 4:15PM
Yes, Drunken---there are effective ones---they get legislation passed. True, it is horrible legislation, but it is legislation nonetheless. I want more Democrats NO ONE will work with. Does that make sense? (You do beautiful posts)
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.13.11 @ 4:48PM
Tool,
You are the professional here, what the hell was going on with Julia?
Occam's Tool| 6.15.11 @ 12:52AM
I examine people in person or by ITV to make diagnoses. Unless I'm dealing with Clint, who I insult at will. She is obviously angry. But she also misunderstands the problem.
The problem, Julia, is that this fellow was over the top. Look, a man sees an attractive woman and the idea of having sex with her flashes through his mind. Hey, I've been married for almost 16 years and my wife is saintly, and the thought flashes through my mind.
OK. Let's assume the "all men are pigs" trope has a bit of truth to it. My dear lady, there are teenage girls (my nieces and cousins and family friends) who are "Facebook friends" with me and they will NEVER get such a picture---I can't think of a siyuation in which I would send it. Real adult men have something called a pre-frontal cortex, which creates something that Freud would refer to as a super-ego.
Some of us grow up as teenagers, some in our twenties. Weiner is a "little late" on his development. The thing that annoys us about the democrats is that this type of behavior is viewed as appropriate because he's not "a family values guy," and therefore, all Democrat comments on his behavior are based on political considerations.
That's moronic. There are such things as common sense and common decency.
This does not mean that in my inner heart I am not a pig, Julia. It does mean that I keep my bedroom activities where they should be and my public activities where they should be. This is not about Weiner accessing internet porn. This is about him sending pictures of his privates to young women while he's married. This is about behavior that opens him up to blackmail and subversion.
That's the problem, Julia. Simply because something involves sex doesn't mean it's about sex. In short, ma'am, grow up.
Lovin' Spoonful| 6.13.11 @ 6:06PM
Weiner's testosterone was texting. Get it?
It's a rare woman who understands the male sex drive accurately. You sense this gulf even in your first adolescent approaches to girls.
And because testosterone is so terrible in its commandments and threatens all the time to make you look shitty, and because women obviously just don’t get it - well, what’s the point in even trying to explain?
Testosterone is constantly making us horny. Remember when you were a teenage boy? You couldn't get it down.
Yes, God made us this way; it's in the genes, dude.
God wants us sexed up so he can lay the guilt trip on us.
kcusick | 6.13.11 @ 6:29AM
Is Anthony Weiner going to hang in there? Check out “A Day in the Life of Anthony Weiner” on The Loop Now.com. It’s all fantasy, because the Congressman likes it that way.
theloopnow.com/?p=8260
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 9:04AM
Julia,
of course healthy men are over-sexed, that's why there are billions of people in the world. Point is, why is it acceptable for Polanski to rape, but not acceptable to so much as perhaps even stare at Whoopie Goldberg's 17 year old niece, say, or nephew?
Double standards are everywhere, inside every mind-- including Julia's
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 10:43AM
At any rate, Weenie ought to resign for merely \ being extremely foolish; what he did --unless they dig up criminal wrongdoing on his part--wasn't ominous, as Clinton threatening retaliation against Paula Jones was; however Weenie is so careless he is not fit to be a politician, and since politicians are often shits such is saying a great deal! As soon as Weenie works out the book, honorarium, TV possibilities, he WILL resign.
Longer he stays in office, the more dough he will obtain later on. He is crazy, but only like a fox.
DaveS| 6.13.11 @ 1:50PM
Weiner's poses are comical, and evidence of a self-absorption not seen since - Clinton.
Mike Hawk| 6.13.11 @ 6:37AM
In all to many ways Weiner is stuck in adolescence. Add in his complete lack of moral guidance and you wonder how people elect undisciplined juveniles to office. Democrats don't seem to want adults in charge. Why then do the Republican Establishment leadership RINOs fear and kopwtow to them. We the elevtorate are sick of these people. We want responsible Adult leadership. At least we have it in the Boy Scouts where some of our youth leadership could do a better job than dolts like Weiner.They are far more mature .
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 9:50AM
But he is 'crazy' like a fox. With a good agent Weenie can rake in the dough hand over fist.
Timothy L. Pennell| 6.13.11 @ 7:09AM
What's the problem? EXPEL HIM!
Throw him out!
Geez. Everything's such a big production with these people.
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 9:53AM
You can't see what Weenie's strategy is?:
the longer he can string this out, the more lucrative the deals his agent will be able to get him.
Shamus| 6.13.11 @ 7:35AM
There's a fiscal crisis but all the Democrats care about is yanking Weiner.
Richard Baker| 6.13.11 @ 7:46AM
Amazing how he was a Voice of Reason when the Democrat leadership thrust him front and center to criticize the Republicans. Now he's the albatross.
flipside| 6.13.11 @ 8:01AM
Oh I'm sure they'll find some obscure Headgefund that Weinie can be sent to and hide. Chuckie is working on that right now. Take a step back and observe...there is something seriously off about that boy .....the rage...the shaved pubes..the obsession with his body...I wouldn't be surprised if he is a steroid user. I hope he doesn't leave, the RATS don't fight fair, we need the poster children of gov. run amuck..Wienie, Client #9, Rangel....they think that they can do anything they want with no accountability. Pelosi drains her brain before she drains the swamp.
LarryK| 6.13.11 @ 8:51AM
This Weiner thing should be settled in Small Claims Court.
cowgirl| 6.13.11 @ 9:58AM
Yep and the only way Weiner can get any attention is by showing his shortcomings...
Teaghan| 6.13.11 @ 8:52AM
What kind of woman would marry a man like this? She HAD to have known he was a little twisted. As with Hillary, I have little respect for this woman if she stays with him.
Flipside| 6.13.11 @ 9:14AM
She married him because she's H.R.C's lover. It's all a sham marriage.
sinanju| 6.13.11 @ 11:34AM
Huma needed a husband, Weiner needed a wife.
They both wanted an "open marriage". They both had other things going but they needed the fig leaf of respectability for public consumption and to tamp down the rumors.
Huma will "stand by her man" until he becomes a serious liability. As she has seemingly no ambitions for elected office I wouldn't hold my breath on her divorcing him.
Melvin| 6.13.11 @ 10:35AM
Huma married him for the same reason that Hillary married Bill. Political power and all its accouterments.
Why else would Hillary fancy herself as the head of the World Bank.
The only qualifications that Hillary has to run the World Bank is to steal from it.
Seek| 6.13.11 @ 5:11PM
And why do you think Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip married (and have stayed married)? Deep conversation? "Political power and all its accoutrements" has been a common and valid reason for marriage for thousands of years. What's new about that?
hardcard| 6.13.11 @ 9:06AM
How does spitzer and the weiner sound? Now that weiner has finished investigating Glenn Beck he is available for the CNN gig.
bluecollarbytes| 6.13.11 @ 9:13AM
Democrat leaders were playing the usual game plan- supporting Weiner in public while hoping, and secretly pressuring him to resign- probably to the sounds of 'sad' accolades on Weiner's fabled career.
Weiner is one of the nastiest pompous political hacks around, and that was before his ideas on luv rose to the surface.
Are we way passed the voters judging a candidate's morality?
To hear PopMedia and Democratics tell it, we have no business making determinations on whether a candidate is 'moral' or not, unless it's a Republican, whose policies alone 'prove ones immorality'. So even now, Tony Dick's problems are couched in his 'sacrifices and public service'.
insanity | 6.13.11 @ 10:44AM
nice news
Petronius| 6.13.11 @ 10:52AM
This 15 minutes is taking way too long. Send him to Chicago.
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 11:07AM
Not for Weenie: the longer it takes for him to resign, the higher the price he can charge for a lecture, seminar, TV appearance, etc.
If Weenie can put off his resignation until the dog days of July, early-mid August, then all those people who stay indoors to watch TV in their air conditioned dens can watch Weenie on whatever show is succeeding Oprah's. He's got it made in the shade!
I predict weenie will make at least three hundred grand in cash from this. Plus a new car, an HD console, a whole pile of goodies that are harder to tax.
sinanju| 6.13.11 @ 11:52AM
I very much doubt that. A congresscritter who leaves under a cloud of scandal and ridicule like Weiner is banned from the revolving door/gravy trough. No hedge fund, corporate board, leftist law firm or foundation wants to associated with a notorious perv. Weiner is not a wealthy scion like Spitzer (who would never have gotten anywhere in politics without his Daddy's money). Where's Gary Condit these days?
As the drip, drip, drip of this scandal just keeps flowing, it's obvious that he will be forced out. You have to have a lifetime's worth of favors to call in (pace Rangel) to survive something this big (or have the race card to draw). His only hope is to negotiate a soft landing for himself in a smoke-filled back room ("set me up for life or I'll really embarrass you all"). It's possible his constituents will pull through for him but word on the street from his district is no longer so solidly in his corner the longer this goes on.
He might well have saved himself by holding a press conference the day after and saying "yes, I did it, and so what?" But instead, he kept up that ridiculous ten-day running battle with the MSM (who desperately wanted to pull for him) with his ludicrous non-denial denials and refusal to answer straight-forward questions that exasperated his friends and showed the red-cape to Breitbart and the Rather-gaters to dig deeper.
In the end, it was his arrogance-more than his appetites-that did him in.
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 1:13PM
"No hedge fund, corporate board, leftist law firm or foundation wants to associated with a notorious perv."
You are right on Weenie's corporate prospects, but the future for a congresscritter in the ENTERTAINMENT world is very bright. If nothing else he can start a Jerry Springer-type show that might last a season and sell a few bucks worth of advertizing.
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 1:17PM
... and remember, Condit was under suspicion for murder for a long time until they caught the transient that killed her;
while a congressvarmint such as Weenie knows that sex sells.
Again, Weenie wont wind up selling apples on the street.
Occam's Tool| 6.13.11 @ 1:18PM
If I recall, Springer paid a prostitute with a CHECK!
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 1:30PM
That is correct, but it was part of Springer's image to be a sleaze; his entire show was about sleaze and nothing but. All those guys married to their sisters and male strippers sold advertizing targeted at desperate housewives.
Weenie wont do nearly as well as Springer did (Springer made tens of millions from a show that lasted many years) however Weenie's rep (if nothing illegal is unearthed) has a dollar value of a couple hundred g's or so. All he needs is a real good agent.
Beats washing dishes at IHOP.
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 1:43PM
...at least 200 G's-- such is a conservative guesstimate. Weiner could certainly star in a porno flick: say an Austrian film
titled 'WeinerShnitzel'
Sure beats scrubbing toilets for $9 an hour.
JP| 6.13.11 @ 2:17PM
You got to remember that Pelosi wants him gone big time. Who knows what investigators are bound to uncover. Pelosi in 2006 made Rep Foley the poster child for the GOP corruption -and it worked brilliantly. And Chuckie Schummer mentored AW into politics. The longer this farce lingers the more ridiculous they look. AW has got to know this. Let the bidding start at $1.5 million/ year for a 2 year Madison Ave contract.
Patzer| 6.13.11 @ 1:22PM
We don't want him- we're already stuck with Rahm.
Dan Collins| 6.13.11 @ 11:11AM
Julia:
What do you charge for a half hour of dirty talk?
Thanks
Oldefarte| 6.13.11 @ 11:13AM
There is ONE word that comes [or should] to mind regarding this person and his situation:
P-E-R-V-E-R-T!!!!!!!!!!
Doctor Right| 6.13.11 @ 11:31AM
WHY would anyone hope that Weiner resigns???
I for one hope he digs in and sticks around as an ever-worsening scandal continues to unfold.
I want this miserable, arrogant little scum-bag to do as much damage as possible to the Democrat Party in the run-up to the 2012 election.
And this is a scenario that the Democrats obviously fear, thus their calls for his resignation.
Did they call on Clinton to resign? Rangel?
Why Weiner, then?
Because they know the worst is yet to come.
Get out there, GOP, and milk this damn story for all it's worth, you feckless fools!
If Weiner was a Republican, do you think the Democrats would be so silent???
Con Chef (NB) | 6.13.11 @ 12:01PM
Julia W. from NY Barfs:
"Every male reader of this post has participated in sexual acts so filthy that if they were brought to light, they would gag a goat. And if not participated in reality, at least in imagination."
Projection much? Reliving your weekend gang bang? Get over yourself, honey. You ain't nothing special. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if you had some Wiener pictures yourself.
Con Chef (NB) | 6.13.11 @ 12:05PM
I wonder if Julia from NY has any kids. You know, if she hasn't aborted any? And if she DID, I wonder how she'd feel about her 17 yr old daughter getting a picture of some Congressman's unit sent to her phone/email/etc? People like Julia would probably think that it was ok. People like Julia are the same types of people who think we should let child predators off the hook. People like Julia are every bit as disgusting as Weenie.
Nunya| 6.13.11 @ 2:02PM
Worse, Chef. Worse.
Seek| 6.13.11 @ 5:14PM
Whetehr or not she has kids has nothing to do with her argument, which sounds pretty sensible to me.
J.C.Eaton| 6.13.11 @ 10:18PM
No surprise there....
Bill Carson| 6.13.11 @ 12:20PM
I hope he stays in office. He makes Dems look bad. He'd only be replaced with another far left liberal anyway.
Clint| 6.13.11 @ 12:21PM
Weiner to Julia," I like your buns"
Con Chef (NB) | 6.13.11 @ 12:33PM
Well played!!!!!
W| 6.13.11 @ 12:24PM
Applying the Clinton Standard, The Weiner should not resign. It was only sex, verbal unlike Clinton, and does not affect The Weiner's job performance. If Clinton did not resign, then why should Weiner.
Rangel cheated on his taxes, did not resign. Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne, did he resign?
Con Chef (NB) | 6.13.11 @ 12:34PM
Nope. Ole Teddy became "The Lion of the Senate." There's hope for Weenie after all...
Clint| 6.13.11 @ 12:32PM
Weiner Must Be Frank.
Con Chef (NB) | 6.13.11 @ 12:33PM
And "upstanding."
Clint| 6.13.11 @ 12:35PM
Weiner," I Can't Help Myself, I'm A Hot Dog."
Alan Brooks| 6.13.11 @ 1:20PM
"Oh I wish I were an Oscar Mayer Weiner,
that is what I'd truly like to be;
for if I were an Oscar Mayer Weiner
every hot teenager would get a textmessage from me!"
JP| 6.13.11 @ 1:49PM
What is probably going on are negociations. AW is probably holding out for some lucrative job that only Pelosi or Hoyer could deliver. Let's face it, $154,000 a year doesn't go far in the Beltway. And if one considers that his wife could be quietly seeking legal advice with a divorce lawyer, AW needs some big bucks quick.
He has no marketable skills, no law degree, and his political connections were severed once the Tweet hit the internet. But he does have one card to play -the House Dems (and most probably the New York Democratic Caucus) want him gone in a big-big way. His leaving should be worth at least a job that pays in the 7 figures for a few years. That's jump change with the people he hangs with.
Nunya| 6.13.11 @ 2:06PM
Let's face it: Democraps have no honor, whatsoever. The entire party is corrupt, and not only do they have no shame, they don't even know what it means. I'm sick of hearing about Weiner, if he'd had any honor or shame, he'd have resigned in disgrace. More likely, he'll continue in his job just like Rangel, proclaiming that he's been to a therapist and is now cured. What's worse, the people of New York will probably re-elect him if he stays.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Rob| 6.13.11 @ 2:52PM
Kirsten Powers(FOX) hurled the M bomb(misogynist) at Weiner. Likely, it will be impossible for him to recover feminist/misandrist political support now. The women will still love the cad regardless, it's biologic.
Anthony| 6.13.11 @ 4:14PM
The p0litical class of Ds, of which Anthony's Weiner is one, are dishonorable,corrupt, amoral, and sociopathic; basicly rotten to the very core of their being.
Decency is not a word that exists in their vocabulary. Anthony's Weiner was married by the most corrupt and dispicable D of all, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.
Is it any wonder Anthony's Weiner chose to imitate and emulate the greatest whore in American politics, afterall, Clinton got away with it all???
And the MSM ladies all now claim men are dispicable and that we need 50% of all our leaders to be women. Hey, fools, there's one staring you in the face, if you can get past your other obsessions for all things liberal and the hatred of Palin.
Sister Sarah for President!!!
hardcard| 6.13.11 @ 3:16PM
the parents of monica lewinsky were proud of her and the slickmeister !!! it was a real thrill and they even got a cigar. weiner has no shame or cigar
Al Adab| 6.13.11 @ 3:35PM
Shame won't force him out. However, a good job offer from the State Dept. or EPA or some such might do the trick. After all, Dems have to look after their own.
albert constantine, jr.| 6.13.11 @ 4:27PM
Perhaps meat inspector?
ejp| 6.13.11 @ 4:39PM
Weiner wobbles but it won't go down! :)
BackToBasics| 6.13.11 @ 6:15PM
Weinergate??? Years ago, if this had happened considering the name Weiner and the behavior associated with him, one would have more likely heard a phrase like, "The gods themselves mock us."
We are more and more as a nation, projecting the face of foolishness and nonsense to the rest of the world, including our enemies.
And in Proverbs for those who lack wisdom and actually revel in or love their lack (proverbs 1:22) it says, "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear comes. When your fear comes as desolation, and your destruction comes as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish comes upon you. Proverbs 1:26, 27
banshee| 6.13.11 @ 10:03PM
Jeffrey Toobin criticizing Weiner story as "just silly stuff" is interesting, in that Toobin is/was married father of CNN's Jeff Greenfield's (unwed) daughter's baby and a known weirdo, himself.
Google Jeffrey Toobin - - see if you'd want his endorsement. I won't clutter up this site with details. That's Julia's job.
chuck jim fox| 6.14.11 @ 1:32AM
Weiner could, like any number of deelected/shamed officials, could stay around DC as a lobbyist--possibly the hot dog and sausage lobby, or the pickle packers lobby. Both organizations are online.
milanov| 6.14.11 @ 3:57AM
So far, in this season's scandal, there has been no baby (Arnold, Harding, Toobin), no dead girl (Mary Jo, Chandra), no national security problem yet involving the ladies (JFK, maybe Monica, maybe General Pershing), no blackmail (Hamilton and the Reynolds couple). The lady blackjack dealer in Vegas may need to be investigated more, as to what the Vegas angle of all this is.
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banshee| 6.14.11 @ 2:15PM
As we all express outrage, take a double helping of umbrage and demand that Weiner pack up his Blackberry and go - -I am certainly for that. I thought he was a psycho before this came up. But if I lived in Athens, GA and and my daughter went to the school where TRACI NOBLES teaches gym and cheerleading. I would not want the wanton Traci teaching my daughter how to shake her pom poms.
Google TRACI NOBLES for the explicit and disgusting pleas to Anthony Weiner for more attention.
All of the women are as weird as Weiner. He could not have messaged them or sent pictures, if they had not contacted him with an invitation.
Broussard sends him pictures of her in various seductive (as seductive as Texas Tacky can get) poses - then wonders why Weiner sends her his idea of seductive. Imagine her future as a nurse. There she is, giving a bed bath to a male patient and he says, "I've seen you somewhere. Aren't you the gal who sent your picture in an open robe with your bra and breasts peaking out to Weiner Boy? Wow! Lather me up, baby!
These women are as predatory as Weiner, any day of the week.
The blackjack dealer boasts of being really drunk all the time she is messaging - -she works in a den of iniquity with bottom feeders of the world. A drunken 40 year old black jack dealer Democrat campaign worker getting all worked up every night on Twitter with another loser.
Remember the line in Frank Sinatra's song, "He'd like to have a party but he doesn't know who to call - - Here's to the Losers, Bless 'em all."
Life's losers vote for losers. Progresssive Losers!
We are dealing with the dregs of humanity here. I don't see anyone who is a victim.
Even the 17 year old's words reflect on her upbringing. Does she sound destined for Valedictorian? A high school junior devoting her free time to swooning over Anthony Weiner. . .
milanov| 6.14.11 @ 4:34PM
In my comment above I didn't mention Joe Scarborough. There was something about a dead girl in his office, but I will let someone with knowledge give the details of the affair. I mentioned General Pershing, because Carlo D'Este and others have mentioned that during WWI he frequented Paris brothels (was there a Mata Hari among the damoiselles?) and in the 20s was something of an Errol Flynn. He courted George Patton's aunt, who told told the Patton daughters that Pershing had been so burned out commanding the AEF that he had turned into a sleazy old man. Someone maybe will include Pershing in a study sometime of great people who reach a Pinnacle and totally collapse spiritually afterward.
banshee| 6.14.11 @ 8:50PM
milanov, are your two comments in some way justifying behavior? If so, you need to do more research. LBJ once bragged he had more women in a month than JFK had in a lifetime.
FYI - Scarborough quit shortly after the woman died - but she didn't die in his DC office. It was in his state office in Florida. But according to articles, Scarborough had been previously warned about his behavior with aides.
Of course, if you are Speaker of the House, as Newt was, I guess you don't warn yourself. Elmer Fudd was already wooing the "albino-in-a-bottle", Calista, while still married to the dour Marianne.
John Kasich, good buddy of Gary Condit, quit quickly on the heels of the Chandra Levy disappearance and murder. That is not to say Kasich knew anything about it. But he was a single guy at the time and he and Condit went to rock concerts together and were mauled around in mosh pits - -odd recreation for lawmakers, one married, one not. Condit's excuse for honeying up with Levy was his wife's medical condition - - I imagine the same as Edwards'. "My wife was an invalid. I wanted to be considerate of her condition, but I had my needs...."
I would guess all of the senate and congressional wives' excuse for staying with these leches is, the perks. It cannot be their good looks and charm.
Are you putting forward the "everybody does it" excuse? Blame somebody else for setting the standard so low?
If so, we can take it back to Adam and Eve. And Adam can blame God. . ."If He had given us clothes isn the first place, maybe we would not have been tempted." Eve already has her out. "It was that damned, charming snake. . ."
I just wonder how on earth poor Anthony Weiner is going to be cured of his problem. If you are an alcoholic, you only need to stay away from liquor. If you are a drug addict, once you are clean, you stay away from your pusher. But the object of Weiner's affection is right there handy all the time.
milanov| 6.15.11 @ 3:45AM
No, I was not trying to justify Weiner, because "everybody else does it." There is an automatic human reaction when someone gets caught "doing something" to think of others who have done something similar or even worse according to the laws or mores. I have no justification at all for Weiner's antics, if it seemed like I did. Back in the Bill-Monica era I followed a large chatroom, which was full all the time with comments that "the French do It all the time and why are Americans so uptight about what Bill was doing?" I'm still waiting for "the French do it" to appear in a Weiner-related comment page.
banshee| 6.15.11 @ 8:17PM
It wasn't what Bill Clinton was doing. We already knew about Gennifer Flowers. There was a joke in Arkansas, "What do you do with a fast woman in Arkansas?" "Put a governor on her!"
It was, for most, WHERE he did it. The Oval Office, to some had a solemnity about it, that made the sleaze meter rise at Clinton's behavior conducted there.
We can all be thankful that technology had not advanced to the point of Blackberries or Monica would surely have had more than Bill's cheesy little gifts to remember him by. How many even remember she kept that pitiful collection of cheap junk and had Clinton's secretary hide it under her bed in her home, so it would not be found in a search of her apartment? Souvenirs of the Adventures of Princess Kneeling Fox!
Ten million wrongs don't make a right. But if it it consoles you and your" human reaction", to recite them , then have at it.
Don't forget Wilbur Mills and Fanne Fox , the stripper, cavorting in a fountain in reflecting pool. Or Gary Hart(pence) and Donna Rice on deck of the aptly named Monkey Business. Donna got religion after her romp with a married man and is now in some philanthropic pursuit.
Odd, we only apply the "others do it all the time" as the GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card for fornication and adultery. Why not for murder, bank robbery, grand larceny and wife beating?
milanov| 6.15.11 @ 11:33PM
I have no use for the Clintons and Weiner and any number of GOP and Dem public officials who have used their positions to be sleazebags recently and far back in American history. The "the French do it" comment that kept appearing in the old chatroom I followed became irritating and disturbing after a while as it kept appearing, apparently being a cliche being typed by college students who must have been brainwashed by the ethical relativism classes they were taking in the late '90s. Do you want Weiner executed for his sleaze? And comparing ruling class sleaze stories is an ancient popular blood sport going back to the days of King David's harem or far earlier than that.
Harrison | 6.16.11 @ 1:32PM
Looks like Weiner is pulling out. Finally.
banshee| 6.16.11 @ 1:55PM
Do I want Weiner executed? No, but Huma might. As far as I am concerned, now that he has no public forum to run his mouth at a decibel rating that would crack the windshield on a bus five blocks away, I'm fine.
But I was just thinking, Muslim men, if their wives so much as leave the house "uncovered" are free to have the family stone her to death. Shouldn't Huma at least have the right to have Anthony planted in an ant hill up to his ant eater nose?