Good luck in finding an audience for this bit of self-indulgence
-- aside from the critics, of course.
Maybe I just don't get out much, but the central figure in
Noah Baumbach's Greenberg doesn't look to me like
anything to be found in nature. I'm not talking about the title
character, Roger Greenberg (Ben Stiller), whose narcissism and
self-importance, combined with a case of borderline hysteria
borne of his attempt to cling to his youth and that knowing and
self-consciously precocious quality we call "hip," are only too
familiar. I mean Florence (Greta Gerwig), the young woman, 15
years his junior, who becomes Roger's love interest. Like young
women in many of the movies I have seen but unlike any I have
ever met in real life, Florence has no sense at all of her own
value in the sexual economy. It's true that she is also lacking
in a sense of self-worth generally, and that this is a common
affliction, but I find it difficult to believe that someone as
attractive as she is should be prepared to sleep with the first
man who asks. Maybe it's a southern California thing.
The first man who asks isn't Roger, as it happens, but an
otherwise absent character called Warren (Chris Coy) who, when
she shows a moment of reluctance by saying that she's just
getting out of a relationship and is not ready for another one,
brutally replies with a snort of laughter that "This isn't a
'relationship.'" Silly bitch! He might as well have said to her.
It's a one-night stand. Are you interested or not? She's
interested, alas. OK. It could happen, but only (I think) with a
woman whose sense of self-worth was pathologically out of kilter
or so ideologically feminist that she thinks she's proving
something by being as promiscuous as a man. Florence is not like
that. On the contrary, she is supposed to be this film's "normal"
to Roger Greenberg's (supposedly) interestingly quirky. But, to
at least one viewer, Roger's tiresome quirkiness turns out to be
way less interesting than Florence's deformed normality.
Roger is house-sitting for his brother and sister-in-law in
Los Angeles while they take a family trip to Vietnam. He has just
got out of the hospital after suffering a nervous breakdown. A
former musician, he had years before sabotaged his L.A. based
band's one offer of a record deal by denouncing the record
company's terms as a "compromise," and the other band members are
still bitter about it. One, Ivan (Rhys Ifans), is still friendly,
however, and preternaturally patient with Roger's demands upon
their old friendship. Roger has since moved to New York and
become a carpenter. Now, in return for living rent-free at his
brother's place in rich L.A., he proposes to build a dog-house
for the family German Shepherd, pretentiously named Mahler. The
dog develops an auto-immune disorder, which occasions a subplot
involving veterinarians and Roger's neediness on account of not
being able to drive.
A.O. Scott in the New York
Times calls Roger a "walking challenge to the
Hollywood axiom that a movie's protagonist must be likable." He
should have waited until the box office figures come in, which
are pretty anemic-looking, but let's say he's right and that
Roger is interesting without being likable. I don't find him so,
but I'm willing to grant that others will. Still, I'm inclined to
think that such interest as there is is not so much in him as it
is in the shadowy presence of the therapeutic culture, of which
he is the creature. He is forever saying things like, "I'm not
one of those preening L.A. people who expects everything to be
about them" when, as we instantly realize, that's exactly what he
is. But the potentiality for humor in such self-ignorance is, in
my view, strictly limited.
More promising are the pseudo-profundities like "Hurt
people hurt people," a saying traded back and forth between Roger
and Florence as if it were a family photograph -- except that Mr.
Baumbach, who both wrote and directed the film, appears to regard
this as a real profundity. It's not quite so tautological as "it
is what it is," which was the favorite saying of a therapist of
my acquaintance, but it hardly gets you any further in the
direction of actual meaning. The occasional mordant observation,
such as that "all the men out here" -- that is, in L.A. -- "dress
like children, and all the children dress like superheroes,"
doesn't quite make up for Roger's monumental self-absorption,
which I fear Mr. Baumbach partly shares.
"I'm trying to do nothing right now," Roger tells people
about his sojourn in La-La land, and the paradox of having to
try to do nothing highlights that of the therapeutic
approach to narcissism, which is that the more you indulge
yourself in therapy the more narcissistic you become. He has to
stress that his fainéantisme is deliberate,
which makes it therapeutic, which makes it all right and not the
interesting character flaw it would be if he were just doing
nothing because he felt like it. We are probably meant to take
seriously the contention that Greenberg is "learning to love
again," but it is not clear to me that he has ever learned to
love. And the indication of hope at the end is a pretty flimsy
foundation for believing that he has done so now.
Mr. Baumbach is much admired by critics for a sort of
deadpan humor of the kind you see in his earlier films, The
Squid and the Whale and Margot at the Wedding.
There, too, his characters are mostly unlikable, though one or
two stand out as being less unlikable than the rest and so able
to generate some sympathy. In this film, Ivan and Florence fall
naturally into that category but, as they are at best friends and
not family members (as in the earlier movies), we naturally want
to ask ourselves why on earth they should be having anything to
do with someone so unlikable as Roger Greenberg. Doubtless his
emotional problems are a matter of great interest to Roger
himself, but because we see no reason why they should interest
the only two sympathetic characters any more than they interest
us, the whole thing looks contrived and artificial.
Another New York Times fanboy, Dennis Lim,
writes that, as "a fan of "The Ben Stiller
Show," Mr. Baumbach had long thought of Mr. Stiller as a kindred
comic spirit and for Greenberg, Mr. Baumbach said, he
"wanted someone who knew what was funny about the part."
Unfortunately, he also needs an audience which knows what's funny
about the part, and I predict that that will be harder for him to
come by. "It felt great to not be in a movie that had to be
servicing laughs," Ben Stiller is quoted as saying -- as if
making the actors feel good were the point of the exercise. The
narcissism is real enough, anyway.
James Bowman, our movie and culture critic, is a resident scholar at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He is the author of Honor: A History and Media Madness: The Corruption of Our Political Culture, both published by Encounter Books.
Unfortunately, Ben Stiller's character in "Greenberg" is all too
real -- though it helps to be Jewish to understand why. Yes, I
saw the movie.
Alan Brooks| 4.5.10 @ 1:19PM
I only watch films from the '50s, they are good for gags-- not
vomits.
Bilwick| 4.5.10 @ 12:27PM
Haven't seen GREENBERG yet but I intend to, one reason being
because I have enjoyed Noah Baumbach's previous work, both his
collaboration with Wes Anderson (THE LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE
ZISSOU, which I liked very much), and three movies he both wrote
and directed, MR. JEALOUSY, KICKING AND SCREAMING, and HIGHBALL.
The lastt he apparently disowned, and people seem to either love
it or hate it. I love it, and have watched it several times.
The other reason is that from what I've read of him, I sort of
identify with Greenberg. Artistic ambitions that didn't work out,
and lacking conventional, mainstream ambitions. I'm probably more
likeable.
Shamus| 4.5.10 @ 4:27PM
Unemployed marriage counselors might enjoy this (but only if you
paid them $300 per hour to watch).
Roughcoat| 4.5.10 @ 5:12PM
I yearn to see a movie that shows unalloyed heroism in the
service of Western Civilization as we used to know it.
Dope and Chains| 4.7.10 @ 5:34PM
Has Ben Stiller ever acted in a role that didn't involve
"narcissism and self-importance?"
Seek| 4.5.10 @ 12:20PM
Unfortunately, Ben Stiller's character in "Greenberg" is all too real -- though it helps to be Jewish to understand why. Yes, I saw the movie.
Alan Brooks| 4.5.10 @ 1:19PM
I only watch films from the '50s, they are good for gags-- not vomits.
Bilwick| 4.5.10 @ 12:27PM
Haven't seen GREENBERG yet but I intend to, one reason being because I have enjoyed Noah Baumbach's previous work, both his collaboration with Wes Anderson (THE LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE ZISSOU, which I liked very much), and three movies he both wrote and directed, MR. JEALOUSY, KICKING AND SCREAMING, and HIGHBALL. The lastt he apparently disowned, and people seem to either love it or hate it. I love it, and have watched it several times.
The other reason is that from what I've read of him, I sort of identify with Greenberg. Artistic ambitions that didn't work out, and lacking conventional, mainstream ambitions. I'm probably more likeable.
Shamus| 4.5.10 @ 4:27PM
Unemployed marriage counselors might enjoy this (but only if you paid them $300 per hour to watch).
Roughcoat| 4.5.10 @ 5:12PM
I yearn to see a movie that shows unalloyed heroism in the service of Western Civilization as we used to know it.
Dope and Chains| 4.7.10 @ 5:34PM
Has Ben Stiller ever acted in a role that didn't involve "narcissism and self-importance?"
chi| 4.11.10 @ 8:21AM
Has Ben Stiller ever acted in a role that didn't involve "narcissism and self-importance?"
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