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Senate Democrats’ health care “compromise” would move us even closer to a government-run health care system than the current bill. (Updated)

Senate Democrats on Tuesday night reached a tentative deal aimed at assuaging moderate Democrats’ concerns about creating a new government health insurance option, but the so-called “compromise” would actually move the nation much closer to a government-run health care system than the public option itself.

Under the terms of deal, as reported by the Washington Post, Democrats would drop the current incarnation of the public option and instead allow the Office of Personnel Management, the entity that runs the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, to oversee the creation of privately administered plans that would be offered on the new government-run exchanges.

But in a major concession to liberals, the agreement would expand Medicare to Americans over the age of 55, and thus potentially add millions of people to a system that is already on course to bankrupt the country, with a long-term deficit of $38 trillion (or as high as $89 trillion by some measurements). And the deal still leaves open the possibility that a public option would be “triggered” if the new Office of Personnel Management plans don’t materialize.

It’s worth keeping in mind that the “public option,” as originally conceived, was much more of a threat to the private market than the version that ultimately ended up in the Senate bill. Liberals envisioned the public option as a government-run plan modeled after Medicare that would use its bargaining power over health care providers to drive down the cost of insurance premiums. Though the plan’s purpose was ostensibly to “compete” with private plans on the new government exchanges, in reality, liberals hoped that over time, the lower premiums would gradually shift more people to the public option, so that eventually they could achieve their ultimate goal of a government-run, or single-payer, health care system.

The public option became a flash point in the health care debate, as critics noted that no private plan would be able to fairly compete against a government plan that could dictate how much they would pay doctors, hospitals and other providers. The government would also be setting the rules for the insurance exchange and if the government plan were to fail, there would be every reason to believe that future lawmakers would use taxpayer dollars to bail it out. A Lewin Group analysis estimated that as originally envisioned, the public plan could attract 131 million people, shifting two-thirds of those enrolled in private plans to government-run health care as businesses dropped their coverage and dumped workers on the government to save money. It also found that as a result of the government’s bargaining power, doctors stood to lose $33 billion in income and hospitals would lose $36 billion — costs that would result in decreased services and shift more costs onto those left with private health coverage.

But over time, the public option was scaled back. In the Senate bill, the government plan could not set reimbursement rates at Medicare levels, and it would not be available to large employers — only to some small employers and individuals without insurance. And states would at least have the theoretical possibility to “opt out.” According to the Congressional Budget Office, total enrollment would only be three million to four million. That doesn’t mean the plan still wasn’t worth opposing — along with the rest of the bill — but simply that it wouldn’t be as damaging as when it was originally conceived.

However, expanding Medicare would go further to advance the original aims of liberals than the watered down version of the public option. By definition, the Medicare option (which would eventually be offered on the exchange to those over 55) would set reimbursement rates at Medicare levels, thus putting the squeeze on doctors and offering lower premiums that would make it more difficult for private insurers to compete. As with the public option, liberals will try to argue that the Medicare expansion will be funded by the premiums it collects, but it will benefit from the taxpayer-funded infastructure that is already in place to support Medicare — not to mention potential subsidies down the road.

As part of the pact, according to the Washington Post, Democrats would impose a new rule that insurers have to pay out 90 percent of the money collected in premiums to fund medical payments.

Proponents of the government plan mockingly question how anybody could be opposed to offering a plan that would offer lower premiums. The problem is that the lower premiums for some impose burdens on others — reduced services, a shortage of primary care physicians, a shift in costs to those with private insurance, and greater risk to taxpayers. While Medicare’s defenders tout the program’s low administrative costs, that comes at a cost, too — massive fraud that, by some estimates, tops $100 billion a year.

The Mayo Clinic, which has been praised by the Obama administration and has supported some aspects of the health care legislation, blasted the Medicare expansion idea as “disastrous.” A post on the blog of its Health Policy Center argued that, “The current Medicare payment system is financially unsustainable. Any plan to expand Medicare, which is the government’s largest public plan, beyond its current scope does not solve the nation’s health care crisis, but compounds it.”

Mayo went on to predict that, “Expanding this system to persons 55 to 64 years old would ultimately hurt patients by accelerating the financial ruin of hospitals and doctors across the country.” The Mayo Clinic alone, it said, lost $840 million last year under the existing Medicare system. 

The CBO has not yet evaluated the current proposal, but according to a recent Kaiser Family Foundation study, there are about 4 million uninsured Americans between the ages of 55 and 64 — so that would probably be the minimum amount of people eligible to buy into the expanded Medicare program. Yet according to Census data, the entire 55 to 64 population is 33 million, so there’s plenty of room for growth if future lawmakers open the exchanges to more people.

For liberals who view a single-payer, or government-run, health care system as ideal (and that list begins with President Obama), the goal of health care legislation was to move the nation as far as they could in that direction, knowing that the best way to achieve their goal over time was by building on the current system with which people are familiar.

“Extending this successful program to those between 55 and 64, a plan I proposed in July, would be the largest expansion of Medicare in 44 years and would perhaps get us on the path to a single payer model,” Rep. Anthony Weiner, a proponent of a government-run health care system, boasted to the New York Daily News. Weiner told the Associated Press that it was “an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me who have been arguing for a single-payer system.”

If Democrats unite behind this “compromise” and the broader legislation becomes law, liberals will have largely succeeded. The legislation already expands Medicaid and S-CHIP by 15 million people and coupled with the Medicare expansion, most newly covered Americans would simply be added to the rolls of existing government-run programs. Millions more would be using government subsidies to purchase government-designed insurance policies on a government-run exchange. And the rest of the system would be subject to so many taxes, penalties, and mandates that it wouldn’t resemble a private market in any meaningful sense of the word.

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Health Care, Public Option

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Philip Klein is The American Spectator’s Washington correspondent. You can follow him on Twitter at: http://twitter.com/Philipaklein

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Oldefarte| 12.9.09 @ 12:56PM

Let me try and" 'SPLAIN IT TO YA". Healthcare is just another of their desired MEANS of governmental takeover of our lives. If government takes over control of healthcare from private [industry] insurers, medical services will deteriate into a European or Russian [long waiting times/lines; inferior medical service] situation. Adding millions of medical CUSTOMERS/PATIENTS to a system without correspondingly substantially increasing the number of medical providers will naturally result in MEDICAL SERVICES RATIONING. Additionally, governmental control of healthcare will result in MEDICAL PRICE FIXING which will result in medical providers leaving the profession due to the reduced/inadequate income coming from their longterm educational expense needs, which is what liberals want. The profit/money that now is earned by the private insurance industry will instead [under government control of healthcare] go to Uncle Sam's coffers, and which will then be available for governmental funding of more and more WELFARE. It's all called WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION, folks!!!!!!!!!!!

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.9.09 @ 1:02PM

Mr. Klein,
again, at the risk of sounding like a groupie, thank you sir for laying it out.

We must stop the whole deal! Fortunately, the chicken.......s in the Demo party want to sneak it in over a period of years.
We can elect a congress to de-fund the whole thing if we've got the guts.

One thing that does frighten me more...yes medical care is some 20% of our economy....
But!
Energy availability may be 80% of our economic wellbeing.
I must admit, Monday was a dipiriting day for me. Copenhagen's dictators, combined with our wannabe dictator, are going to try to de-"sovereignize" the shining city on the hill.

If that occurs, sir, our whole government goes in the toilet. The American people will replace it, with God only knows how much actual bloodshed.

Please, help us find another route.
Best regards

Melvin| 12.9.09 @ 3:26PM

Fellas, as I have said before, "Laws or edicts or only as good as the peoples willingness to follow them."
If those of us who are in the majority by the way tell King Zero, and is fascist followers to bugger off, then what are they going to do about it? Send us to the FEMA Camps maybe, take more money away from us, or diversity sensitivity training?

K Miller| 12.10.09 @ 6:15PM

Yes, that's exactly what they're going to do, send us all to one of Bill Ayer's camps for re-education, or get the Chinese or the Russians to "disappear" us.
And they will probably start by checking the comments on this web site first!!!

Think I'm joking ???

missbosslady| 12.10.09 @ 8:37PM

Abso-friggin-lutley correct Melvin!

I fully intend to be an "Objector" to any health reform bill that this gaggle of sychophantic, self-serving losers pass into law. These beings in DC are of the lowest form, living to serve faceless masters while stuffing their pockets with the sweat of the American citizenry. I can think of no use for the majority of these societal leaches, which likely explains their foray into politics. Of course, that is the sad reality-we have elected these lowlifes, we willingly gave them the keys to the kingdom.

But, I digress.

Personally, I intend to go all "Rand" on these clowns and remove myself from the system. I will become the "All Cash Kid"-no accounts, no papertrail, no trace.

I'll sell the buisness (sorry employees you'll have to find some other entrepeneur), sell the house (lived in it long enough to still have equity despite the downturn), payoff what little debt I have and become completely liquid.

Catch me if you can, of course you'll have to find me first-it's a big country.

legal jobs | 3.4.10 @ 12:30AM

My question is, how come countries like Canada, Australia and England can conduct socialized healthcare so effectively while, for some reason, this is a nearly impossible task for the U.S.?

I for one just want to see people who really can't afford healthcare get it, or at least make sure that these people's children have it.

Cheers,

Chris from Legal Jobs Centre

home insurance | 3.20.10 @ 3:02AM

i totally agree with the view that the actual scene is worse then it appears, but the veil of publicly available data undermines the actual precipice that the economy is actually in,
regards
zenden from home insurance

jeff| 12.9.09 @ 3:31PM

The GOP leadership will create a bigger monster by trying to "improve" the bills, rather than killing them outright. The default position of every senator is Let's Make a Deal. gag.

Ross| 11.5.11 @ 1:28PM

I second that opinion. No matter what the purpose of a bill is, that is the stand most senators take. GoldFutures

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Rmm| 12.9.09 @ 8:27PM

Wow, we don't have to work until our mid-60's any longer if this package becomes law. If a dead rat landed on Obozo's desk he would give that a thought.
Medicare already has one foot in the grave, and these fools want to add 30 million to the rolls.
Brilliant!
The $45 billion that Bank of America is returning from Tarp is not going back to the taxpayers, the Feds have other ideas. In the short amount of time these Libs have controlled the game, corruption, dismissal and giving the public the kiss-off have ruled the day.
I'm going to stop paying attention.

Sell Gold Coins | 11.27.10 @ 10:19AM

I would say Medicare has both foots in grave. Well corruption and not owning up responsibility are two major things pushing the Medicare to the grave. God save the world.

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Ret. Marine| 12.10.09 @ 5:24AM

Yeah, let's just make this a bit more confusing so as to not pay any attention anymore to these self rightous pimps calling themselves our Representatives. Hey buddy, can you spare a real leader for the serfs

Stewart| 3.1.10 @ 11:16AM

There are so many issues that we are all facing together. Our children are not being raised like they used to be, parents now need more child behavior help with issues such as oppositional defiant disorder than ever before.

Melvin| 12.10.09 @ 8:00AM

I'll revive my faith in government again, when Global Warming Scientists teach a Baboon to be Senate Majority Leader.

Old Guy| 12.10.09 @ 9:30AM

I thought that already happened!!

Ned| 12.10.09 @ 3:31PM

Oh, no. That's a monkey. The baboon is over in the House. You can tell the difference between them by the bright red... well, look at them going away...

Stuart McGill| 3.21.10 @ 1:06PM

I guess we should keep our faith in God, rather than the government. That is the only hope left in the current economic situation.

Stuart McGill| 3.21.10 @ 1:09PM

I guess we should keep our faith in God
, rather than the government. That is the only hope left in the current economic situation.

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Northern Rebel| 12.10.09 @ 8:56AM

The communists in our government learned from Russia's communists: incrementalization. (did I just make that word up?)

They will never stop, and they will take any little sign of socialist victory they can get.

If the world is completely destroyed and rendered into shambles, two life forms will survive:
liberals and cockroaches!

Oh wait, that's only one life form! sorry!

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JP| 12.10.09 @ 2:13PM

The short term political problem this sets up will be a massive tax increase on both individuals and businesses. At least in the orginal bill, the benefits of BacusCare woudn't kick-in until 2014 and would be phased over 5 years. Yes, people would begin paying immediatly; however, there would be no hug pay-out up front. This new version adds new recipients (anywhere from 3 to 15 million immediatly). On top of that is a very large expansion of Medicaid. Both programs in the new versions would be running in the red within 12-24 months. Defecits would sky rocket unless a massive new tax or surcharge is implemented. And that creates an entire host of new problems for Obama and his party. A new recession would most certainly result, and unemployment would most certainly go beyond the 12% range.

Do these guys really want to destroy thier party?

tj| 12.10.09 @ 3:27PM

Do these guys really want to destroy thier party?
Oh yes they do!!! VOTE EM ALL OUT 2010/2012.

Peter| 12.10.09 @ 4:29PM

One way or another the Dems are going to have a public option, and probably a strong one that will drive the private insurance industry with its 500,000 employees out of business a lot quicker than some might expect. That's because whatever version the Senate passes, and something will pass, the House and Senate bills will have to be reconciled in committee, when the public option will be overtly reinserted. Once reconcilation is completed a simple majority is all that is required for passage of the bill. Game, Set and Point.

John R. Salverda| 12.10.09 @ 4:34PM

Healthcare and Insurance are two completely different things. Healthcare is what you may need if you get sick or injured, insurance is not needed by anyone it its merely some kind of a payment scheme. People who buy health insurance are greedily hoping to receive their healthcare cheaper than, and at the expense of, those who remain uninsured. People would not have purchased insurance unless they thought that they were getting some kind of a deal. So don't tell me that the uninsured are the freeloaders, as a matter of truth, those who are greedily hoping to receive their healthcare cheaper, are the actual freeloaders. Laws, that the insurance lobby have bribed into existence, force the uninsured who get sick to use the very expensive emergency rooms that are controlled (exempt from anti-trust laws) by those same insurance companies. That way, those poor uninsured sick people, even though they receive no insurance, will be billed for a whole slue of insurance related services that they did not receive! That's right, the uninsured get billed for the healthcare that they receive, and for a lot more besides, which they didn't receive. We uninsured people are not freeloaders you insured guys, expecting to get cheaper healthcare at our expense, are the real freeloaders. I can't afford to get care because you guys make care cost too much. You frivolously use healthcare for a runny nose and "who cares" how much it costs because you're covered, but you could care less how your actions are affecting others. I won't be showing up at a emergency room unless there is an actual emergency, and even then I'll have to pay the "who cares" pricing demanded by your insurance company! Why should I have to pay for the salary of the medical coder, the claims adjuster, the insurance training of receptionists, etc. Now, obviously not everyone who buys health insurance is a greedy freeloader, many are simply fooled into it. They foolishly accept "insurance" instead of cash for compensation at their place of work. Of course, and by evil design, if you "opt" out you don't get the cash. (there are equal pay laws, but the "Insurance lobby" has bribed a loophole into these laws regardless of all the victims of this discrimination.) So, which are you, greedy or foolish?

exhaustedMD| 12.10.09 @ 8:44PM

You know, the longer this crap goes on, the more I realize that we are represented by the people who put this idiots in office. After all, George Carlin was right on the mark: selfish, ignorant citizens elect selfish, ignorant leaders. As a physician, I know the system is flawed and needs to change. But, to put it in the hands of callous, indifferent, clueless, and greedy bastards that say the most and do the least, you have to see that whatever comes out of Washington as of these days will just f--- up this country! Oh yeah, people who have no backround or experience in health care matters are going to improve health care. Tell you what, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and all the other Democratic idiots, and by the way, you equally lame and selfish Republicans who are just using the issue to claim interest in the country's needs when you did jack s--- the six years you and Bush had a majority, I saw a nice area of mud and filth near the West reflecting Pool in front of the Capital the two times I came to DC with my protest sign. Why don't all of you who know so well how to "fix" health care, go down to that site and sit in that mud area for a few hours. Then, when you are soaked and filthy, you might know a bit how I feel. Except your plans have me sitting in a pile of crap! At least you do not smell so bad. I just hope those doctors who feel like me will really consider doing what is right, and that is leaving the field if this legislation passes. Then I guess the politicians can man the clinics and offices and give people care. Let's see: more people with "insurance", less doctors providing it, and who is going to fill the void? What is the color of the sky in your world, politicians? Crap Brown!!!

Linda| 12.11.09 @ 2:49PM

are you really a doctor or one of the corporate hired trolls who infest the internet to promote the "corporate view". Your posting references no facts and does not equate with the style or intelligence of someone who could make it thru medical school.

exhaustedMD| 12.11.09 @ 7:16PM

I don't know, are you a bitch projecting your own disingenuous agenda onto me to minimize my comments? Sorry I don't speak in physician language to validate your needs. I just work in the trenches for many years and am tired of the disgusting rhetoric of the assholes you helped elect to screw up this country. What references am I supposed to post to satisfy your pathetic agenda? I bet you are one of the hired hands from the Obama regime trying to downplay the truth of the coming garbage this legislation will dump on America. PS: I made it through medical school, my specialty residency, am board certified and recertified, and now have come to the painful conclusion idiots like you supporting this cause will force me to look for a new career. At least I am glad I won't have to treat you in 3 to 4 years. Not that you are treatable, from a psychologically point of view. Sorry to other readers to have to read this hostile retort, but idiots like Linda need to be put in his/her place. To all but Linda, have a nice holiday.

Yosemeti Sam| 12.11.09 @ 1:25AM

A Kodak moment of three windbags -
Pol Lie-berman and two brothers grim 'caucusing' sidekicks.

Missing is a weathervane in front of them -
to reflect the multi-directions of 'spin' spun.

What feigning of purpose to find common ground
while vivisecting Medicare; acceptable 'collateral' deaths from 500 billion 'cuts'?

Christian-Judeo faiths, on display?

Or - a perverse blueprint for breeding salivating bureaucratic ghouls to serve the alter of actuarial tables?

Get this anathema done before Christmas is
the exhortation. Time is of the essence.

No sweat - if you're not of Christian-Judeo
conscience. If you cater to the Spirit of the
Dark Side.

These super dumb mortals - democrats - are
selling their souls; and for what existentialist glory?

Marc Jeric| 12.11.09 @ 2:08AM

Our Democrats really take us for stupid. Nationalization of health care would be obtained in stages:
1) put 55+ in; then
2) add 45+ in; then
3) add 35+ in; and finally
4) put everybody in the Medicare.
As for the illegal aliens - Abu Hussein says they will not be covered; but then he intends to give them amnesty and then they will be covered.
They really think we are all stupid!

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TAKEbackMEDICINE.org » Blog Archive » Buying into Medicare: Reid versus Madoff links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…most part spot on; mainly because they have been on the correct side of the doctor-patient relationship. As an example, a sensible review and take on the pending legislation Phillip Klein in American Spectator has a nice little article. In there is a great quote from one of Obama’s much ballyhooed medical organizations of choice, the Mayo Clinic. Check out their reaction on their Health Policy blog…

Linda: Pharmacist| 12.11.09 @ 2:36PM

May I suggest you read the views of Physicians instead of corporate owned stooges and their lackies who fund this rightwing corporate rag.
NEJM Doctors on Coverage — Physicians’ Views on a New Public Insurance Option and Medicare Expansion. Salomeh Keyhani
http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1790g
A HUGE majority of physicians support a government plan: public option and or single payer. Sorry to let the facts get in the way.

Linda Pharmacist| 12.11.09 @ 2:41PM

My Comment above. The source is the New England Journal of Medicine NEJM and the above link is to their site with an article with a real poll (not a corporate engineered /doctored fake poll) showing that a huge majority of physicians support a public option or single payer. Corporations pollute the airways with their owned media and its self serving lies but the people have learned not to believe the lies. Death panels......and other GIBBERISH no longer work.

Anonymous| 12.11.09 @ 5:51PM

Healthcare reform's slogan: Screwin' Old People for Crappy Care, Invest Your Freedom Today!

ExhaustedMD| 12.11.09 @ 7:23PM

After replying to the above commenter who obnoxiously attacked me, I just want to reinterate my concerns that this coming legislation will only harm this country. There will be no free health care, no decrease in the increasing intrusions into physician decisions on day to day care needs for patients, and believe me when I say this, politicians do not care whether Americans get better care. Just answer me this, you staleworts of the Democratic process: why did special interests get first dibs to the White House and Congress? Because they are politicians, and their own pockets come first. I don't care what party these idiots belong to, Democrats or Republicans, the process is beyond tainted. So, to all you choir boys and girls, your songs suck! Any doctor who stays in place with the legislation as is, you will get the care you deserve. And that will be less. Again, happy holidays, America, for not paying attention to the coming storm. I hope you all get flattened for your ignorance and lack of foresight.

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journeyhome | 12.14.09 @ 10:45AM

If we get a compromise reform Bill through this Congress that extends coverage to millions of people, ends the pre-existing conditions exclusions, adds full insurance portability, makes it illegal for insurers to drop patients or raise their rates just because they get sick, repeals the anti-trust exemption, allows for national programs and gets the same prices congressmen and women get - as well as setting up exchanges to increase competition, then we will really have done something important.

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Vince | 3.1.10 @ 1:35PM

Public healthcare .. is not the answer to this! Cheaper healthcare is, rein in the massive health care expenses, and you have a solution. The US Government, despite having the power to issue bonds and print money does not mean that public spending go unbound and out of control. As already pointed out, the US has a huge deficit, and the interest payments on that deficit are crippling alone. The combined interest payments would almost sum up to the GDP of 10-12 poor African countries. Out-source health care to India, where its not only cheap but very high quality. That is an idea that will work, lower costs, and improve the ranking of the general administration in the public's eyes.

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the compromise appears inevitable now that the bill is in the state it is! however the public option is also open if one takes into account the lability of the whole issue, however the whole healthcare issue has been the cynosure of all policy updates and needs to be the modicum of the governments reach to the people in a friendly manner and the governments future also hinges here:)
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whole sale patches | 3.2.10 @ 11:59AM

Instead of another bill why don't they just allow competition across state lines? Why do we need to spend a trillion dollars to save money? Lets get some biker patches made up that says "no public option".

BarryMartin| 3.2.10 @ 4:38PM

Whether or not there is a public option at all, I still feel some change needs to be made immediately. The new health care system does not need to be perfect, it just needs to try to be something better than now. The system will evolve over time to become what we want it to be. Although I have benefited from Obama college grants, I still feel he is being too bipartisan. The democrats need to step foot and take over this issue already.

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A very detailed study should be made about the existing Medicare program and how it can be improved! How to reach a balance is the hard part. Health should be the top priority

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Healthcare | 3.7.10 @ 6:25PM

Unfortunately todays healthcare reform's slogan is this: Go away the Olds!

Jada T. | 3.9.10 @ 5:44PM

The ones who should benefit the most from this are the children & the senior citizens. Medicare should seriously undergo reforms & focus on those with urgent needs!

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rancho| 3.14.10 @ 9:53AM

Well GOP leadership will create a bigger monster by trying to "improve" the bills, rather than killing them outright. The default position of every senator is Let's Make a Deal ... hahahaha

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Rosa C. | 4.5.10 @ 6:44PM

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