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Losing It Over Scozzafava
Not a good day for NRCC chairman Rep. Pete Sessions.
National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) lashed out at conservative Republican colleagues during a meeting on Capitol Hill Wednesday when asked why the NRCC chose to back liberal, ACORN supported candidate Dede Scozzafava, in the upcoming special election to succeed Rep. John McHugh in New York’s 23rd Congressional District
Sessions was called out by conservative members of the caucus, and challenged when asked why NRCC resources — cash and personnel — were being used for Scozzafava. “We have a conservative running in this race, and the Republican Party is not with him,” says a conservative House member who attended the meeting. “There are a number of us who are profoundly embarrassed by this race, and while we don’t blame Pete, we do blame the NRCC staff for apparently not doing its job.”
Sessions, according to sources, angrily responded to the criticism, though not directly defending Scozzafava. According to NRCC staff, Scozzafava was viewed as the “most cooperative” candidate of a group put forward by local Republican Party bosses in the 23rd District. “She wasn’t going to be a loose cannon and the money was happy with her,” says one NRCC source, saying that “money” referred to a pool of high-dollar donors with ties to former New York Governor George Pataki. “Ideally, we wanted someone who could self-finance, but we didn’t have anyone like that,” says the NRCC source. “Then we went with someone who would have a natural pool of donors; [Scozzafava] met that criteria.”
Scozzafava’s candidacy is getting so much attention because a conservative Republican, Doug Hoffman, is now challenging her, running as the New York Conservative Party candidate in the race. Hoffman was rejected by the Republican Party of New York, which chose not to contact Conservative Party leader Michael Long for input on the pick. Such input is usually sought, to ensure that the Republican candidate will also be able to run on the Conservative Party line on the ballot.
Hoffman has already been endorsed by the Club for Growth, Gary Bauer, and former Sen. Fred Thompson. According to sources in Washington, a number of conservatives have been pressuring former House Speaker Newt Gingrich to step up and support Hoffman, both financially and with an appearance, but that Gingrich has thus far rejected those requests without an explanation. David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union was said to be calling around to various conservative organizations, encouraging them to support Hoffman and not support the NRCC in further efforts.
In New York, meanwhile, aides close to Hoffman said they were poised to make several announcements in the coming days that “will change the dynamics of the race,” according to one aide. “We have conservatives across the country who really believe we can win this with the right team in place and the right kind of support, and we believe that it’s all coming together.”
Regardless of the outcome of the race, it appears that looking to 2010, Rep. Pete Sessions will be examining the staff of the NRCC and making changes to ensure that a Scozzafava doesn’t happen again.
According to Republican National Committee sources, a poll on the 23rd District race paid for by the NRCC and due to be released on Monday has been withheld due to a poor showing by the Republican candidate. An NRCC denied that the poll was being held back, but was being reviewed for “margin of error issues.”
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Michael L. Hauschild| 10.8.09 @ 7:58AM
"Pete Sessions will be examining the staff of the NRCC and making changes to ensure that a Scozzafava doesn't happen again."
BS
waddyakiddin me| 10.9.09 @ 12:57AM
Yes...yes...yes...as many conservative candidates as possible. No health care reform, no clean air rules , no consumer protection, no regulation of our saintly set upon capitalists, no no no. Good luck with that morons. Abraham Lincoln would be ashamed of what has become of his party.
annecarr| 10.9.09 @ 1:58PM
Conservatives win, plain and simple.
Lincoln would be ashamed of the "moderate" Republicans and how they blow with the wind and don't hold any discernible convictions.
Joellen| 10.8.09 @ 8:32AM
Which is why I WILL NEVER DONATE to the Republican Party again. I CHOOSE where my donations go. Joe Wilson recently received a donation from me. In my note to him though I specifically stated "DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT APOLOGIZE AGAIN, and I will continue to support you in the future. By the way, I am from NJ"! I think the Republican Party STILL DOES NOT GET IT! I will NEVER SUPPORT someone like John McCain or Lynsey Graham. But I will support the Sarah Palin's and Bobby Jindels. I pray that all who read this article do the same and then maybe, the Republican Party will start acting, with true conservative traditional values that we can be proud to support. Until they STOP ACTING LIKE LIB's LITE, BOYCOTT THEM! Once they start acting with strenght and a true desire to bring AMERICA back to its GLORY, IGNORE THEM LIKE THEY IGNORE US! Then instead of us going away - they will have to. It will be hard, like parenting but it is something we must do if this COUNTRY IS TO SURVIVE.
KyMouse| 10.8.09 @ 9:33AM
Joellen, that's why I changed to Independent long ago. I decided that I never wanted my vote taken for granted again, and that I wanted politicians to focus on issues, not red-or-blue.
Tim| 10.8.09 @ 10:11AM
"She wasn't going to be a loose cannon and the money was happy with her," says one NRCC source"
Who are we to argue with THE MONEY?
Rick| 10.14.09 @ 9:54PM
Exactly. "The Money" is the entire problem. We don't have Conservative values any longer. We just have "The Money". "The Money" runs everything. Forget about the Country.....
Bruce | 10.8.09 @ 7:56PM
I'm from NY and I too changed my registration to Independent 2 elections ago. I will NOT vote for Scozzofava - my ballot will be marked for Hoffman. Where I used to vote straight GOP ticket I now pick and choose where my vote goes. The better man - not the party (as long as it's not a Libbie!)
Alan Brooks| 10.8.09 @ 9:48PM
loose cannons say something because when people get riled up then they say something that isn't based on PR.
or as Mike wrote, BS.
e| 10.8.09 @ 10:53AM
Absolutely! As a conservative Arizonan, I never vote for McCain. Just one example - He has no interest in closing the border. As if illegals are not a big enough problem! Ask about the terrorism angle. Last month Sheriff Joe captured 3 Chinese citizens (with Cuban money) and a Mexican smugggler.
Van Sharpley| 10.8.09 @ 11:48AM
My exact thoughts on not sending money to "national republican committees" (both senatorial and congressional).
So, I searched for and found www.senateconservatives.com
Sil in CNY| 10.9.09 @ 8:40AM
I keep getting requests from the GOP to donate...and I send every one back with this written on it: "When the GOP stops putting up candidates like DeDe Scozzafava, I will consider donating to you again"
Rick| 10.14.09 @ 9:56PM
I just wrote Steele and told him the same thing the other day. Scozzafava like candidates = no money from me!
Grant| 10.8.09 @ 10:32PM
That's what I tell them, too!
waddyakiddin me| 10.9.09 @ 1:07AM
That's right lady, cut them off and give your $20.00 to Sarah Palin so she can get herself another $50,000 wardrobe for the next election. As for Jindal I encourage him to use your money to start a charisma transplant. I am sure Joe Wilson could use your money to learn how to read so he could have seen that illegals are specifically excluded from the health care bill. Maybe he will use the money to figure out a new Republican Health Care Bill. The one you have now is not working out well. You know...Don't Get Sick...If you do, die quickly.
Rick| 10.14.09 @ 10:09PM
Wads like you sleigh me. If you believe that illegals are "specfically excluded in the healthcare bill" you are delusional. You can't prove it and if you can, I expect that you will post the language here. Oh, you're a lib, no, you don't deal with facts. I mean I expect you to attack me.. Grayson is so bright that he forgot to be up on current events to see that thousands and thousands of the angry mob are coming to his district next month where they will instantly raise insane gobs of money to defeat him. He meant to say that the Democratic plan was to have us die quickly but apparently forgot which party is which. "The One" said in his address to the nation that there are 30,000,000 uninsured (not sure what happened to the 47 mil except the illegals were removed), Baucus is going to leave 25,000,000 uninsured and you guys are going to push it all against the wishes of all of those insured of which 85% are happy with their coverage. Brilliant plan.
Gary R. Grella| 10.14.09 @ 1:32AM
Exactly right Joellen ! Could you imagine the Democrat Party ever supporting a DINO. It'll NEVER happen. If GOP party leaders were unsalaried, then the party would support principalled candidates. Unfortunately, those party 'leaders' are in it for themselves first. They've made a "business" out of running candidates. They don't care what their candidates believe in as long as they have a chance of winning. They tell their candidates to say whatever is necessary to get republican voters to vote for them. They're using republican voters for they're own selfish, short-sighted, interest. We should all circulate nominating petitions for party position and challange those phoney "leaders". Party leaders can be challanged in Primary Elections. I know, i've done it and won. I am a former member of the Nassau Republican County Committee and i won the position in a Primary election. It's easy, just circulate the petition, get on the ballot and run your campaign. The petition for can be found in the NYS election law hand book ($2.50 from the NYS Board of Elections). The County Committee post is very easy to run for and a great educational experience. It's usually a very small geographic area of only 8 to 10 blocks in subburban areas, smaller areas in cities. It's also great fun to run for this post. The more principalled people get into the County Committees, the more principalled the Party will become. It's really just that that easy. We really CAN take the party back from the 'sell-outs' ! And, it's far easier that you know.
Rosita| 10.8.09 @ 9:10AM
Joellen, you are absolutely right. That is how I feel too. I just donated to Marco Rubio's campaign. These RINOs make me sick to my stomach. McCain should retired and enjoy golfing while they still have money. The Republican Party needs to support Sarah Palin! When are they goingto get that!
Grant| 10.8.09 @ 10:33PM
I tell them exactly the same thing!
Lu D| 10.8.09 @ 9:19AM
UI also stopped giving to any Republican Commitee's. I will give to indivduals. There is a good resource for finding the true Conservatives,it is www.americanfuturesfund. com.If a great many Conservative donate a ten dollars or more we can help elect more Conservatives. I have already donated to Hoffman's campaign. We need to show these so called leaders that WE The People will make the choices.
Joellen| 10.8.09 @ 9:22AM
Great Rosita, one more thing - EDUCATE everyone you know. Provide them with FACTS and when they are stuborn, which they are, and ignore the truths, at least you have planted the seeds and through the MERCY OF GOD, some will take root. Also, do not let up on the media. If they are not printing the TRUTH - CALL THEM ON IT! You probably wont get printed satisfaction, but at least they know you and many are on to them. Little by Little we can win this war. Let's not fool ourselves and believe it just started and that it will be easy to turn back. This liberal smackdown has been going on for over HALF A CENTURY. Remember one thing always though: GOD WINS! With that in mind, you can have peace of mind.
George True| 10.8.09 @ 9:36AM
I am in complete agreement with you guys. I get letters and calls all the time from the NRSC and NRCC asking for money and support. I have written them letters telling them I will only support them when they start supporting conservative Republicans. So what do they do? They send me even MORE letters asking for money. Several months ago I wrote a message on one of the solicitation letters from the NRSC: "I will not give you one thin dime until you start dupporting real Republicans like Marco Rubio and STOP supporting Rino's like Charlie Crist". I then sent it to them in their convenient postage paid envelope. I suggest we all start doing that every single time we get one of their solicitations.
Linda| 10.15.09 @ 1:15AM
That's a great idea. I, too, am getting fed up with all the pleas for money from these folks. If we ALL send them back in the return envelopes, I'll be happy to pay the postage, maybe the party will see that we mean business.
Jefferson Palmer| 10.8.09 @ 9:37AM
It looks like the NRCC might have gotten this one wrong, but the idea that you pick candidates you think can win is a pretty sane idea. The Democrats took back the House by running moderate candidates in the south. It seems to have worked rather well. It's fine to demand idealogical purity, but you should know that it's pretty likely that you won't be making policy in Washington. The idea that every Republican should have the same position on every issue is self-defeating, and actually rather creepy.
Nick| 10.8.09 @ 10:14AM
Mr. Palmer,
Wrong.
The democrat party did not run "moderates". They ran phonies who talked the conservative talk and are now trying to walk a tightrope by voting just conservative enough to get re-elected. They did this at a time when conservatives were very angry at the GOP.
This was very smart politcally. But trying to portray this as a victory of moderates over conservatives is just lame spin.
Nick| 10.8.09 @ 10:16AM
Also,
"The idea that every Republican should have the same position on every issue is self-defeating, and actually rather creepy."
Straw man. Nobody is arguing for this. Nice try.
Daisy| 10.8.09 @ 11:34AM
What's really creepy is running candidates who are democrat-lite. Stop it!
Wasn't the debacle of 2008 enough of a wake-up call?
mujalan| 10.8.09 @ 1:48PM
Jefferson,
I believe you are missing the point. Conservatives are not naively asking for candidates who might meet our personal ideological "purity" tests. What we do object to however is being told we should vote for someone just because the Washington GOP cadres have picked them and they happen to have an "R" tacked by their name.
Many of us have also had our fill of being sweet talked by the GOP when it gets close to election time then being jilted after the election.
jim| 10.10.09 @ 11:02PM
True but now the bluedogs are a thorn in the side of pelosi,harry and the joker. The 7-9 bluedog dems are the only thing protecting this country from total socialist collapse. My biggest fear is the libs will wear them down because decent will not be tolerated!
Becky| 10.8.09 @ 9:41AM
I also was called by the NRC and told the young man that I was getting tired of being thrown under the bus. He said he understood and they were working on getting better candidates.
I think the hardest thing in the world for a politician to do is say he was wrong about a policy, position, etc. It seems harder than saying they are sorry they screwed their secretary and made their wives look like fools.
Well, it looks like if Sessions persists down the path he's chosen, he'll have to do business with her over and over again. If she's elected, he doesn't get to complain about her. He seems to think that throwing warm bodies into positions is all that is needed.
Tara Evans| 10.8.09 @ 9:48AM
Why are there no DINOs? I really think this obsession with RINOs is hurting the GOP. A RINO is more likely to be supportive of Republican policies than a Democrat. If you think you can find Tom Delays in New York, Vermont, Connecticut, etc., you've spent too much time in front of your computer ...
vanhalen| 10.8.09 @ 10:02AM
Writing from NY - this is why NY is in the Sh*thole. Because the goddamned Republicans at the Local, State and Federal level keep sending us crappy RINOS and give no support to Conservatives. I will sit out this vote if I do not see a Conservative on the ballot. Voting for a RINO is like voting for a slow-moving Liberal.
This is why I am pro Palin. To quote a paragraph I saw about Palin:
Sarah Palin isn't perfect, just as most humans, but to her credit, she's never driven a tank, never driven an Oldsmobile off a bridge, never killed a fetus, never denied her blue collar lifestyle, and never been arrested,
She has been the senior Alaska state executive, she is an accomplished mother, she savaged the oil companies with diplomacy, and she has been a royal pain in the ass to liberals. She can go a long ways with the right help from both professionals and we members of the proletariat.
And I add that Palin supports:
God
Guns
American Oil
Strong Defense
Less Government
Less Taxes
Less Abortion
When is the last time NY Republicans sent us anyone with that record?
Nick| 10.8.09 @ 10:21AM
Vanhalen,
Bravo, bravo!
Especially the list of things Mrs. Palin hasn't done.
Daisy| 10.8.09 @ 11:43AM
Van Halen (great name!), I agree with everything you said but I'm not so sure Sarah has never driven a tank. She sure as heck would look better than Dukakis if she had. Ha ha!
George True| 10.8.09 @ 10:13AM
Jefferson & Tara: Here is the problem as I see it. A Republican running as a Democrat-lite candidate is a losing proposition. I think if the 2008 election showed us anything, it showed us that if the voter's choice is a Democrat and a RINO (Democrat-lite), the Dem will usually win. I have seen numerous situations where the NRSC and NRCC supported the RINO allegedly because he or she was "more electable" only to see them lose. In the meantime, a conservative Republican who was polling very well with the voters was totally ignored and even cut off at the knees in terms of Republican party funding.
Nobody is saying that Republican candidates must all have exactly the same views, that is pass an ideological purity test. (Interestingly, the Dems DO insist on that for their candidates.) But being a Republican implies that you agree with basic, fundamental, core, time-tested Republican principles. Principles such as: Smaller not bigger government, allowing free markets to function without government meddling and without government creating perverse incentives that corrupt the free market, a belief that the Constitution is to be adhered to rather than abrogated. If someone doesn't believe in these core principles, then why even call themselves a Republican?
Why try to out-Democrat the Democrats? Let's just be who and what we are and let the chips fall where they may. In other words, let's run some REAL Republican candidates and give the voters an actual choice. The RNC, NRSC, and NRCC are so hopelessly behind the curve. They don't realize yet that REAL (non-Rino) candidates are what the voters are looking for. Their conventional wisdom about which candicate is "electable" simply doesn't work anymore.
There is an old saying in politics: "When the leaders will not lead, then the people must lead the leaders." That means that we must take the Republican leadership by the hand and if necessary drag them kicking and screaming into the new reality. And the new reality is that RINO's are now a losing proposition at the voting booth.
mujalan| 10.8.09 @ 2:07PM
George,
Very well put. I have thought about how the MSM suckered the GOP powers that be into nominating McCain in 08. We swooned and bought the candidate who was going to get the votes for us. It is entirely possible that McCain lost more votes than he gained. So much for reaching across the isle!
Joellen| 10.8.09 @ 10:15AM
I promise no more responses, however I cant let Jefferson & Tara go unchallenged. I am NOT asking for a CLONE of me. I am DEMANDING an ELECTED LEADER to ACT like a Leader, one that I and many put into office with the ideas and principals they CAMPAIGNED on. One of you stated there are no DINO's. Well that is because there is no need for them. We call them RINO's. So, please for those of YOU who STILL INSIST CONSERVATIVES COMPRIMISE their INTEGRITY - I SAY HELL NO! That is EXACTLY WHY WE ARE IN THE MESS WE ARE IN! GEORGE WASHINGTON NEVER COMPRIMISED, NEITHER DID ANY OF OUR BELOVED FOUNDING FATHERS. In fact, THEY SACRIFICED FOR THIS COUNTRY! So get this through your head Jefferson, YOU CAN BE WISHY WASHY - I REFUSE TO GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT! And judging by the march I recently went to in DC, where over ONE MILLION PATRIOTS participated - I believe they WONT EITHER.
Dixie Pixie| 10.8.09 @ 10:39AM
The RNCC support of Dede Scozzafava is part of the Republican strategy to win back the Northeastern voters. The strategy is simple, ditch conservative policy positions and personal as the “bubba” voters are a affront to the refined sensibilities of the Washington / New York Elite and the Northeastern voter. The Republican Party leadership is betting the conservatives will have nowhere else to go and stay with the Republican Party if only to get the few rhetorical bones tossed their way.
Jefferson Palmer| 10.8.09 @ 11:04AM
I can't really say I disagree with anything George True writes. My only point is that there will be regional differences in GOP candidates, and there probably should be. With respect to this candidate, the divide seems too great. As Mr. True says, there does have to be a core GOP philosophy. I wouldn't argue that. I think Joellen is likely to remain disappointed and disheartened, as compromise is pretty much the name of the game in politics, but I certainly respect her spirit.
somnolence| 10.8.09 @ 11:43AM
Steele, do you continue to wonder why I keep tearing up your correspondence without even reading it? Damn, I wish I had a party to vote for.
rt| 10.8.09 @ 11:59AM
Call the NRCC office at 202-479-7000. I called them and gave them an earful.....keep the pressure on and tell them how stupid they are for supporting Scozzakava...burn up those lines!
Sheila| 10.8.09 @ 1:00PM
I long ago stopped sending money to the NRCC and any other national "Republican" organization; I have sent individual contributions to Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio, Joe Wilson and a few others. I will actively support and vote for any conservative who runs against either of my Texas senators, Kay Bailout Hutchison or John Corynyn - I cannot bring myself to vote for a Democrat, but I will never vote for either of these senators again.
Obviously, however, they're still getting plenty of money from somewhere. There are still lots of Republicans who just keep sending the checks, and listening to people like Michael Medved saying that all we need is someone with an R after his name to get better government; what a shame all those wild-eyed conservatives are giving the party such a bad name. I must concur with Selwyn Duke - Obama and his cohorts are a symptom of the problem - and the problem is America and its people and culture. We are not what we once were; our values and society are corrupt and our people are being replaced. We are a dying culture and country, and you all just keep spouting words and making phone calls and planning your big revenge in 2010. The joke is still on all of you.
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Margie| 10.8.09 @ 3:38PM
OK I guess I'm too commonsensical for some, but how is it that you can think that by not voting Republican will help things? You know that by not voting at all you are giving your votes to the Left. How is that better? If you say you think it will send a message, yes it says you are angry, but giving up. I don't see how that helps. For example, Mark Levin recently showed how outraged he was at Glenn Beck because Glenn said Obama would be better as President than McCain. If you stop voting Republican you are giving up and allowing your vote to go to a Democrat Socialist. Third Parties do not work and we will have Obama's second administration of evil takeover if you all it by not voting Republican. It's just a fact.
Michael L. Hauschild| 10.8.09 @ 5:00PM
Really? It seems to me that Glenn Beck has done more to turn the country in the right (correct) and right (conservative) direction than any Republican in the Senate, the House and the RNC combined. If you keep doing the same wrong thing over and over you certainly cannot expect any different results. Just what part of"staying the course" is working out for you, Margie?
Margie| 10.8.09 @ 5:13PM
Mr. Hauschild,
Just what part of not voting or promoting a 3rd party is working out for you? Is that what you suggest? How many Bill Clintons and Obama Admins. do you want?
Also~ I happen to like Glenn Beck, but was making a point. Third parties don't work.
Michael L. Hauschild| 10.8.09 @ 7:10PM
Margie,
I have never "not voted" and I have never "voted for a third party." I did not want a "Bill Clinton" and certainly did not want an "Obama Administration." All my years of contributions, all my years of grassroots participation and all the candidates put forward by the obviously dysfunctional RNC of late have simply gone for naught. It was not the democrats that perpetrated this debacle, it was the republicans.
I apologize for the rhetorical start to our conversation, as we certainly are on the same side.
Here, with no levity, is specifically what I want.
1. Sarah Palin at the head of any ticket, preferably one without the (R).
2. Flat Tax
3. Smaller Government
4. More personal freedom
5. Welfare, medicare, and medicade with compassion but the welfare containing an "end clause" and benefits once drawn will be "paid back" incrementally.
6. Term Limits to include the clause that "once served to term" the only participation in government could be "party" oriented and without compensation or pay.
That will do for starters, Sarah Palin should, no matter what party second, third or fourth will probably be the one to deliver.
Margie| 10.8.09 @ 7:58PM
Mr. H.,
I must say that sometimes I feel like that young man you told me about!
Thanks for the kind apology. I still don't see how a 3rd party is going to win. Do you really think that even if Sarah Palin runs on another ticket she would win? I hope she runs as a Republican for this reason. I am in agreement with Rush on this one. (That 3rd parties don't work). It splits the votes and causes us to lose. I see no other way. I'm not willing to be a Libertarian either. From what I've heard they are like Liberals. No rule of law, and anything goes. So, I say Sarah Palin with the (R). I agree with your list other than that, but on #4 .. if you are talking about the legalization of drugs and other Libertarian desires, forget it. I'm a conservative Republican but I haven't lost my mind. Yet.
Michael L. Hauschild| 10.8.09 @ 11:06PM
Wow, you sure have some strange ideas about Libertarians. I guess I must not be that kind of Libertarian. Here is an example: I do not want to legalize drugs for instance, but if someone wants to kill themselves smoking more power to them.
By the time we get around to 2012 you and I could run and get elected as long as we didn't have an (R) of (D) after our name, it is Sarah Palin's choice all the good old boys will show up when the time comes.
Margie| 10.8.09 @ 11:41PM
I've heard them on the radio and I always listen to hear their views. I haven't yet heard one that doesn't want to legalize drugs, sodomy, prostitution, keep abortion legal, etc. Do they actually have a platform? I don't know but doesn't sound good to me. Smoking is legal so not sure why you're mentioning that. Unless you're talking about about the laws they want to make. Conservative Repubs don't want to get in the way of smokers either. If the Dems think smoking is wrong why don't they make it illegal? Of course they wouldn't because they wouldn't get their taxes and lawsuit money.
You have an interesting take on Sarah Palin running in whichever Party. But if she does this, the Repubs will run Romney, and once again the O will win. We need to be united behind a single candidate and in the Republican Party because it is the home for conservative ideas. Betcha Sarah runs as a Repub. Betcha betcha.
Michael L. Hauschild| 10.9.09 @ 6:14AM
If Romney is "put forward" by the RNC neither he (or the RNC) will get any money and even Romney is smart enough not to throw another forty million dollars down the rat hole.
Remember now, I am a libertarian, I am not going to ask you to change, you won't (and neither will I). But you appear curious so, lets look at your list, drugs - the worst drug in the world, alcohol, the result prohibition/repeal of prohibition, years of strie and suffering, nothing has changed. Sodomy (eww-I had a colonoscophy earlier this year) realistically I can't see anyway even the most zealous of enforcers is going to do anything about it. As far as I am concerned that "don't ask, don't tell" needs an asterisk (don't want to know). This type of behavior falls clearly in my definition of "consenting adults." Prostitution, legalizing it will have EXACTLY the same effect as making it illegal, no effect at all. It is called the world's oldest profession for a reason and if you think I am going to lose sleep over something that has been occurring as long as there have been men and women lacking the social prerequisites to secure a mate, forget it.
Abortion, another no win nightmare for me. It is horrible, and it will get worse as the shift from a medical procedure to a medicinal prescription increases. The fact that there are women that seek this procedure and are willing to terminate life in that manner will go on unabated. No law or anything I can do will prevent it from happening. What will happen is that it will not become as "visible." If they can sneak hundreds of tons of cocain and heroine into the country, I am sure the millions of abortions will continue since that many "abortion pills" would fit in the average pickup truck.
I live not to far from one of the few late term abortion clinics in the nation. I drove by it once while I was in that city on business, no protesters, virtually never makes the news, and it looks like any other building in the area. Seems hard to believe but that non-descript structure is the focus of a nation tearing itself apart. The bad news of course is with the tough economic times coming, the destruction of the nuclear family and the switch from medical procedure abortions to pharmaceutical termination, no matter how much anyone believes in their convictions the practice as it has been performed for thousands of years will become even more prevalent.
To sum this up Margie, I am old enough and experienced enough to know how to pick my battles. I probly am more of a pragmatist than a Libertarian but what little fight I have in me is going to be spent trying to keep the political system from killing our freedom and democracy,
I'll do that, you certainly can pick your own priorities but if we do not focus on what is truly contemporary all will be lost. That is my calling and I will work out the details with my maker when the time comes.
Margie| 10.9.09 @ 1:37PM
Mr. Hauschild,
There are men on this site that I look to, to see what they have to say, and you're definitely one of them. When a Military man or woman (whether past or present serving) speaks, I listen. When I read the posts of the Military men sometimes I'm in awe. If only every American could feel the way the way you all do about our country.
In reading your post it does remind me of how Libertarians look at the laws. Am I right in thinking you'd rather that the things you mentioned had no laws against them? See, that's why I couldn't be a Libertarian. I think abortion should be illegal, along with drugs, prostitution, sodomy, etc. I hear you, about being more of a pragmatist than a Libertarian. That's why I asked if they had a platform because I'm pretty sure they are basically for complete lawlessness. That's what having no laws would mean. And that would not be freedom. I sure don't have the experience you do in this life as far as understanding politics, and am always open to reason so if there was another way I thought possible, other than to stick to backing conservatives in the Republican Party, I'd do it. When you say focus on what is truly contemporary, are you saying for example what the Left says "Keep abortion legal and easy?" Because I say we need to return to our conservative roots, and take our Party (Republican) back.
Michael L. Hauschild| 10.9.09 @ 9:49PM
It always surprises me when you readily jump to conclusions about what I actually say and what some group of "Libertarians" says. Contemporary in this instance means focusing on current events that are truly and immediately destroying our country. All those issues you asked me about I qualified, I see the point of all you say and the stances you take. I am also amazed that you anger at me occasionally because I admit those abhorrent behaviors are beyond my control. If you knew me in person you would find nothing more that an old retired educator whose life's work of late has been taking care of his elderly parents (now one parent, lost my father in January) I do not drink, smoke, and my social life is somewhat truncated by the fact that it is difficult to obtain female companionship when you declare that you still live with your mother. It is very likely you would have absolutely no problem with me being the babysitter for your offspring other than the fact that I would have them shooting guns and riding motorcycles. I can give you eleven testimonials from my own third generation that Libertarians make great grandfathers.
Enough of that, the point is that I have no control over behavior that has been occurring for eons and I have no ability to create or enforcing laws when it is impossible to even locate the perpetrators. Our way of life, our country, and the very preservation of democracy in the world is at stake and squabbling over something we cannot deter or effect will mean nothing if we lose that war. We all have our battles to fight, I am going to focus on the fight to get our country back. My battle will be won or lost in the next two elections cycles, your campaign, I fear, will be never ending and the best you could ever hope for will be some midpoint on a sliding scale.
Margie| 10.9.09 @ 11:26PM
Sorry~ was trying to figure out what you stood for re: Libertarian. My questions were going to that, not trying to or meaning to do anything else.
If I did any of the things you say I did, I'm truly sorry, and also if I have caused you to feel badly.
I don't have any campaign, am more realistic than you think as well. For example I don't think that wrong behaviors will ever cease. That is until Christ returns and then as it says in Scripture~ "The government shall be upon His shoulder." Isa. 9:6-7. I know the world will keep getting worse until that time. So I have no delusions.
Until then, like you, I will continue to back true conservatives however I can.
Gary R. Grella| 10.14.09 @ 1:09AM
REALLY ! ! ! Beck is right. When GOP prostitutes (aka 'party leaders' ) support leftist candidates, only the left wins. Simple as that. Anyone who believes in RINOs, is a Trojan Horse. Watch out for them.
Daisy| 10.8.09 @ 11:08PM
Margie, we voted for a RINO in 2008 and we got Obama any way. I don't want a third party but I'm sick of voting for RINOs and getting screwed over. Run CONSERVATIVES, please!
Margie| 10.8.09 @ 11:56PM
Me too, I am sick of the RINO'S. We have to make sure we vote for conservatives in the primaries. Now here's something I didn't know about and that my husband told me recently. Did you know that there are approx. 10 states that have what is called "open primaries?" This means that Dems can vote for Repubs in our primaries? This is why McCain won. This is something we need to change at the legislative level. Another reason he lost is because of apathy. My husband read that approx. 6 mill. stayed home. At least we would have had a Republican admin. if we voted for him. The Libs and Lefties try to say there's no diff. bet. Dems & Repubs. But we know there are huge differences. It's easier to complain about the RINO'S, but if we give the enemy an advantage we concede defeat.
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KansasGirl| 10.8.09 @ 4:53PM
Good news. We are driving the RINOS' out of our party.
james| 10.8.09 @ 4:57PM
I'm sure McCain endorses this loser.
Sorry to say this, but I hope she loses. Unless Hoffman can win it, she needs to go down and the whole NRCC along with her.
jr| 10.8.09 @ 5:16PM
Hey Sessions can you persuade Specter to run in that district. He would be a good one for you. Flip flop flip flop.
bob| 10.8.09 @ 8:56PM
vote them all out and we can have a fresh start, the ones we agree with have nothing to worry about. The panderers and money grubbers have to go.
Joey| 10.8.09 @ 9:21PM
In Illinois the Republican establishment and national party are telling us that Congressman Mark Kirk must be our Senate nominee. Kirk voted for Cap & Trade, voted against the surge, is in favor of partial birth abortion, gets 100% ratings from NARAL and Planned Parenthood and gets an F from the NRA. He is not with us on ANYTHING. Yet Republican 'leaders' worked to clear the field for him. Fortunately, a guy named Pat Hughes has started to gain some ground to challenge him, but is way behond on money.
I will NEVER, EVER, EVER again give money to the Republican Party. They try to force liberals down our throat with fix-is-in tactics and demand we vote for their guy because he is better than a Democrat. No! If you can't start giving us people who support Reagan-like principles then you deserve what you got in '06 and '08. I will not vote for a liberal Republican again. Period. And if Republican 'leaders' don't get it they will soon be leaders without followers.
Terry| 10.8.09 @ 10:33PM
Until the NRCC cleans up it's act there is no sense in any of us tossing money their way. Scozzafava is just left of the Democrat in this race and always has been. There have been very public debat on her switching parties before the NRCC backed her. I'm done with them until they clean house.
Joey| 10.8.09 @ 11:44PM
Same thing with NRSC. NARAL endorsed Kirk over his Democrat opponent last time. Why do these leaders keep trying to give us RINOs? Want to know why not to vote for a RINO even when he or she is the least bad alternative? Because unless we stop giving these clowns our votes in generals and our party leaders our money the 'leaders' will keep giving us RINOs. If they want to be liberals, go be Democrats. But I'm only voting for conservatives - and I'm only giving money to conservatives and conservative organizations - and that has not been the institutional Republican Party for a while, now.
Brian| 10.9.09 @ 2:48AM
I have an idea, lets just call the democrats "honorary republicans" and then repubs will win every time, in evey race. How's that for a big tent.
Joe| 10.9.09 @ 10:58AM
It is readily apparent that the Republican party lacks clear defined leadership. People need to remember that the parties are mere voluntary associations that have grown to a critical mass over the last 150 years. Americans of all stripes need to come out of the woodwork and start running for office. It is time to put the career politicians out of business and to prevent the grooming of moderate candidates who are not really concerned about the people. All policy should start with emphasis on human dignity. Something that is long forgotten on both sides of the aisle. Doug Hoffman would have my vote if I lived in NY(23).
don geller| 10.9.09 @ 12:04PM
Ha, ha, ha, the Republicans are done. Get rid of your guns and religion and maybe your party will begin to dominate again. This is a new generation and the Republican conservative values have no place in the new world order. Ha, ha, ha. I'm feeling all giggly and I have that warm and fuzzy feeling inside.
Oh and one more thing, I hope Sarah Palin runs for President. She's another example of why the Republicans are LOSERS! Ha, ha, ha, oh I can't stop laughing.
Gary R. Grella| 10.14.09 @ 1:47AM
You've got it all wrong bub. The reason the GOP is losing is because republican voters are no longer buying phoney candidates. You leftists are winning by default. We, on the other hand, need to rid ourselves of our own party 'leaders' who give us RINOs to vote for. When principalled republicans re-take the GOP, the GOP will be winning again and we'll restore constitutionalism to the country. In the mean time, i hope to see President Biden be seated, at least he's a US citizen.
Gary R. Grella| 10.14.09 @ 2:08AM
One more thing Don. When Reagan won, only 20% of American voters identified themselves as Republicans. Reagan cut heavily into the Democrats. In fact, more Democrats voted for Reagan than did Repubicans even with all republicans voting for Reagan. He was principalled and that's why he won. We can do it again. All we have to do is rid ourselves of our own party leaders. Business before pleasure.
annecarr| 10.9.09 @ 2:13PM
One of the posters at Redstate.com is trying to get as many conservatives as possible to take positions as precinct captains or committeemen. The precinct captains are the lowest level elected party official (though most don't ever have to run since there are generally no opponents so it's a de facto volunteer position) and vote for county leadership. Half of the PCs in the country are unstaffed so conservatives need to get in there and volunteer to start making an impact on local, eventually national, party leadership.
Gary R. Grella| 10.14.09 @ 2:02AM
Anne, you're absolutely right ! Principalled republicans should all circulate nomonating petitions to get on the ballot and run for the post of Committeeman/woman. It's easy, fun and educational. In NYS you can get the Election Law handbook from the NYS Board of Elections for only $2.50 or you can go on line and download the form, print it out and circulate it to republican voters and get on the ballot. It's called 'forcing' a Primary. I've done it, it was easy, fun and most importantly, educational, you learn the election law. And, the County Committee post is elected from an Election District which is an itty bitty teeny weeny gographical area. If your county committee post is occupied by two members then you can run with a partner and you get to vote for your self and your co-candidate, that's four legal votes for two of you. Just do it. And have fun while you're at it. Start with the "political callander" of the NYS Board of Elections. It gives you all the dates in which the campaign is run.
Bo| 10.9.09 @ 3:29PM
I get a kick out of comments like this:
"Abraham Lincoln would be ashamed of what has become of his party. "
That theocratic war monger Abe Lincoln was truly a modern day progressive socialist in disguise!
Marting Luther King| 10.10.09 @ 6:06AM
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American wants none of you| 10.10.09 @ 6:08AM
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Terry| 10.14.09 @ 8:01PM
"a conservative House member who attended the meeting"
Who? Why didn't they name the Congressman? And, can we find out, I feel like supporting his campaign!
Sue| 10.15.09 @ 9:40PM
I am not sure how they can say that they wanted but did not have a self-financed candidate. The nomination selection was essentially between two candidates (among a sea of irrelevant ones) - Dede and Matt Doheny. Matt Doheny WAS a self-financed candidate. Unfortunately people in the district held his success in business against him and selected Dede instead, citing that it was owed to her since she was previously passed over for the state senate nomination. The NRCC is totally lying. The had a good, viable and electable candidate in the hands and they passed. Hoffman would not have even been running if Doheny had been nominated and he would have destroyed Owens. Instead Dede is almost a sure-fire loser. This should have been a slam dunk election. The people who chose to put Dede on the ticket made a grave error and we will all pay for it.
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