The lost art of diplomacy.
In the days of colonialism, they called Africa the dark continent. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton brought her own version of darkness to her African tour. She was in Congo hosting a town meeting. One of the African questioners -- through a translator -- asked what "Mr. Clinton" thought of China's forays into African investments.
"You want to know what my husband thinks? Bill Clinton is not the Secretary of State. I'll tell you what I think. I won't be channeling for my husband," Hilllary snapped. It was a waspish performance. Her body English needed no translation. She was more than hostile. She was furious.
I've had a good deal of experience in diplomacy. The old joke is that a diplomat is one who can tell you to go to the devil -- and almost make you look forward to the trip. Mrs. Clinton should have sized up the situation, recognized that it may have been a translator error that substituted "Mr." for "Mrs."
Or, the African questioner may have sincerely wanted to know what Bill Clinton thought about a matter involving Asia and Africa -- since the former President has just returned from a highly publicized trip to North Korea. Presumably, the Secretary of State and her experienced husband share their thoughts over coffee and breakfast.
In either case, the question did not merit the cutting, even cruel public putdown. If you want to know why Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton in last year's presidential primaries, you need look no farther than this public display of cruelty. People don't like powerful people who use their power to make others feel small.
J.F.K. was a master of turning aside sharp questions with a twinkle in his eye and a well-timed witticism. When asked what he thought of a resolution by the Republican National Committee that called his economic and foreign policies abject failures, the President smiled and said: "I presume it passed unanimously." The pressroom erupted in laughter. A soft answer turns away wrath.
Hillary may have felt harassed, tired, frustrated. She may have been suffering jet lag. She may even think that Barack Obama is making a hash of her signature issue -- nationalized health care. She may be unhappy over many things. Still, shouldn't a nation's chief diplomat be, well, diplomatic?
Former President Harry Truman once delivered a stinging answer to an impertinent student who asked a barbed question at the Truman Library. Harry could see by the young man's look as he sank back into his seat that he had wounded the student. He later sought the young man out and invited him in for a chat. He smoothed ruffled feathers and, in the process, made a friend and admirer of a bright young student.
It's not too late. Hillary can still recover from this diplomatic insult to the Africans. She could seek out the young African questioner and mend broken fences. She could even invite him and his friends to visit her on her Air Force jet -- and offer them a beer.
rachel| 8.14.09 @ 6:25AM
umm you haven't been paying attention. Hillary was asked what Bill thought and what a basketball player thought but not asked what she thought. I would be pissed, and also since you havent been paying attention Hillary did talk to the student right after the meeting even before they started saying the question was translated wrong(which turns out it might not have been)
Kitty| 8.14.09 @ 6:57AM
Her Royal C's arrogance is now youtube'd for posterity. She needs to be put out to pasture.
Melvin| 8.14.09 @ 7:17AM
Hillary Clinton has the largest inferiority complex on the face of this planet. If she would stop for half a minute being the whiny bitchy feminist who has to prove that she has bigger testicles than Harry Reid (actually would be that hard), she wouldn't probably be half bad.
Wherein she thought that hooking up with Bill would help her out politically, actually in the long run doomed her, because she would always walk in Bill's Shadow because of his charisma and her lack of.
Chuck| 8.14.09 @ 7:25AM
Frankly, I don't give a damn.
Wicked Dickie-Virginia| 8.14.09 @ 7:44AM
I think she's livid with rage over being marginalized by Obama-ayers. Think about it. She gave up her sinecure in the Senate likely thinking she'd make a name for herself at State only to find out she has a minder who likely won't let her off the reservation. When the megalomaniac messiah feels the time is right, he'll "reluctantly" ask for her resignation. Looks to me like it's all over for her unless the dopes in NY take her back as Senileter or Governor. I suppose this is just wishful thinking because we'll likely never be rid of the Clintons until they're six feet under.
Robert Rosencrans| 8.14.09 @ 7:53AM
Before the dark ages of political correctness Hillary Clinton would have been dismissed as a rotten bitch.
I'm not saying she's a rotten bitch because that would be politically incorrect. All I'm saying is that at one time women like Hillary Clinton would have been referred to as rotten bitches.
That's no longer possible thanks to political correctness. Have a nice day.
jack| 8.14.09 @ 8:13AM
why do you think Obama has her in Africa? This is how Democrats rule. They are heartless,they are cruel,all the things they and media accuse Reps of.
drudge ette obama| 8.14.09 @ 8:14AM
Hillary gives women a bad name in politics, just like Nancy Pelosi. But these types of people run in both sexes: power-hungry, ruthless, unconcerned with the individual, and taking no prisoners.
Robert Rosencrans: I take exception to your characterization of Hillary as a "rotten bitch" I think that prior to political correctness, she (and Pelosi) would be additionally described as "putrid and rotten, offensive to flies and maggots, alike.
As I remember it, to work for the foreign service, you had to pass a written test and an interview which measured your personality and ability to respond under pressure. Hillary is entirely too political and nasty to be Secretary of State. She hasn't an ounce of grace or elegance. So unlike Condi Rice.
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Dave| 8.14.09 @ 8:48AM
The only thing missing in her meltdown was the final lamp toss to the kid's mellon.
"OUCH"
Wankel| 8.14.09 @ 9:07AM
Bill wasn't channeling anyway. Laying pipe maybe, but channeling? No.
Kevin| 8.14.09 @ 9:34AM
Many people in the current administration have caught a wave and risen far above their actual capabilities. In some ways, one feels sorry for them.
True diplomacy looks very, very difficult to do, and probably requires a lot of inborn traits, along with decades of experience. Why would Ms. Clinton, who has been a lawyer, house-wife (first lady), and then senator have any capabilities in this area?
We need to put the grown ups back in charge.
Marc Jeric| 8.14.09 @ 9:45AM
Secretary of State? No - she is a master trader in the cattle futures. She also wanted to give children the power to sue their parents in courts of law, starting at age of 6. You know - "She has no right to send me to bed at 9 o'clock"!
Tim| 8.14.09 @ 10:52AM
Whatever deal she cut with Obama, she's realizing she got the worst of it. The only way she can get headlines these days is by flipping out. It's got to hurt.
stephanie| 8.14.09 @ 10:59AM
I think she was pissed because Bill was in Vegas celebrating his 63rd and she wasn't invited!
Do you think she gets it now that the messiah has put her in a place of no consequence. A place where she doesn't have much in the way of responsibility and a place where she can't do hurt him too badly politically? Yes indeed, as my daughter of 30 yrs, who is a conservative, said last night, "that's what you get when you ride on the coattails of your husband and not on your own accomplishments" Well said girl.
JimJam| 8.14.09 @ 11:41AM
Hillary has got to be one of the dumbest women on the planet. She lets her womanizing husband thoroughly embarrass her on a worldwide stage, takes the hit for failing to reform health care, gives up a cushy job as NY senator to be Obama's lackey doing nothing of importance and then gets upstaged again by Bill by allowing him to take credit for "freeing" the journalists from North Korea. There's lots more but Jeez, Hillary, take a hint.
JMR| 8.14.09 @ 12:15PM
Just what this country needs in these perilous times, when the entire world is on the verge of Armageddon. On to the stage of world politics struts Hillary, dressed in her pants suit, with her abrasive, militant feminist demeanor and her "I'm in charge here, so shut the fuck up" presentation. The bitch radiates the very image that has served to make the US the most resented country in the world. I now know how the citizens of the final days of Ancient Rome felt when they saw their empire being brought to ruin by politicians. Enjoy each day of life as you now know it; Obama and his cohorts are busily undoing what it took since 1776 to create.
Paul| 8.14.09 @ 12:29PM
The language and tone of many of these comments are undignified and disgraceful; not at all what one would expect of the typical American Spectator reader.
Michael| 8.14.09 @ 12:40PM
I'm guessing that New York senate seat she left is now looking better and better to her.
Dan Deeny| 8.14.09 @ 1:12PM
Very interesting article and comments. I think our Secretary of State was uncomfortable visiting the Congo. Look at her background: wealthy Chicago suburb, Ivy League, New York Senator, etc... . I'll bet Arkansas was tough going for her! The Congo would be even tougher. Her personality doesn't fit her job.
Solo| 8.14.09 @ 1:17PM
Well, well, well....
It appears that the "Lady Macbeth Of Little Rock" has bared her fangs yet again! LOL!
When is America going to finally come to terms with the fact that Hillary is a narcissistic, frustrated despot who is insane with and for power?
No wait.....they did! That's why we had a half-witted communist "community organizer" as the democrat nominee.
Daniel| 8.14.09 @ 2:46PM
Do you guys even know what Hillary is doing in Africa? She's trying to stop the campaign of rape that has infected many countries in the area. To have someone come to one of her events and ask about her husband's opinion is to show disrespect to our Secretary of State. That's right, I said "our". Even if you voted for McCain, the realities of the present should have you standing up for our Chief Diplomat, not participating in childish mud-slinging. As Secretary of State, her opinion matters much more than Bill's, especially to Africa.
Betty| 8.14.09 @ 3:15PM
She should have never left the Senate....
Ed| 8.14.09 @ 3:17PM
She channels for the dead (Eleanor Roosevelt). Why not for the living?
Robert Rosencrans| 8.14.09 @ 3:47PM
Apparently all is not well in Clintonville. Watch the video as Bill gets shrill like Hill. I have to ask, which one is the bigger B?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0809/WJC_responds_to_heckler_on_gay_rights.html
August 14, 2009
Categories: Bill Clinton
WJC responds to heckler on gay rights
It was vintage Bill Clinton last night in Pittsburgh, where the former president stopped his address to Netroots Nation to respond to a heckler raising questions about two controversial gay rights issues Clinton backed in the '90s: Don't Ask, Don't Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).
Angrily pointing his finger at the heckler, Clinton attributed blame for the gays in the military policy to a lack of congressional will and a news media that "raised all kinds of delament [sic?]."
As for DOMA, Clinton said at the time he supported letting states and religious institutions decide on gay marriage.
"We were attempting at the time, in a very reactionary Congress, to head off an attempt to end a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage to the states," Clinton said, adding that he "didn't like signing DOMA."
My colleague Charlie Mahtesian is in Steel City and notes in his story that, on health care, the former president seemed to echo the message his adviser Paul Begala sent through a Washington Post op-ed this week.
“I want us to be mindful we may need to take less than a full loaf," Clinton told the crowd.
Solo| 8.14.09 @ 4:24PM
Daniel Wrote:
"Do you guys even know what Hillary is doing in Africa? She's trying to stop the campaign of rape that has infected many countries in the area."
BUUUUWAAAHAHAHA!
OMG! She was there to talk about rape, huh? LOL!
No wonder they were asking her what her husband thought!
Sue | 8.14.09 @ 5:58PM
Please watch your language. Sometimes junior and senior high schoolers frequent these pages. I think we can make our points without using dirty words. As a matter of fact, there is so much material in so many areas that it is quite easily done.
Sue| 8.14.09 @ 6:01PM
I think that Ms. Clinton didn't read the job description and really fell for that belief that most presidents succeed from the Secretary of State position. Of course, that was 18th century history.
She should have finished off Obama when she had the chance and she should have done her caucuses differently.
I bet she's not much of a chess player either.
jr| 8.14.09 @ 6:04PM
Please calm down. She is doing her best to over-shadow Biden with foot-in-mouth. Lately she has gained a little on Stupid Does. I like her better in the orange pantsuit. It is a close fit to a prison jumpsuit.
Pinkie Brown| 8.14.09 @ 6:07PM
And now she couldn't get elected dog catcher in New York. Obama becoming president and removing her from the senate proves that every cloud has a silver lining.
John II| 8.14.09 @ 6:45PM
I agree with Pinkie (and some others who seem to have made a similar point). Professor Obama is a lightweight lefty ignoramus who hates his own country--but he DID destroy the Clinton machine, a service which will be taken by future historians as objectively patriotic.
Robert Rosencrans| 8.14.09 @ 7:08PM
If high school kids are reading these pages it would be good for their minds as opposed to the PC crap they are ladled with each and every day.
Robert Rosencrans| 8.14.09 @ 7:08PM
If high school kids are reading these pages it would be good for their minds as opposed to the PC crap they are ladled with each and every day.
Dave Lincoln| 8.15.09 @ 12:18AM
Apparently, Sue, only Japanese and Chinese high school kids are reading this web page, and, boy do they sound pissed! So, R. Rosecrans is off the hook, right? (I really liked your comment, Robert.)
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G. A. Kevis| 8.15.09 @ 2:30AM
Poor, poor Hillary.
The agony of defeat for the White House
manifestly evidently frustrates this woman - no end.
What exactly is she now - second, third, fourth,
... banana - in the Democrat party hierarchy scheme of things ? Is that what's always on her
begrudged mind - affecting temperament?
Oh - the humiliation.
SOS.
Dave Lincoln| 8.15.09 @ 7:44AM
To paraphrase Les Nesman imitating Ed Murrow(?):
Oh, the humanity, or lack thereof!
Robert Rosencrans| 8.15.09 @ 9:12AM
It's really quite tragic that civility has become a lost art amongst politicians. Lay it to Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals or many other political tomes, but the fact remains that the politics of division and secular humanism have brainwashed many into becoming part of the mob, and leadership be damned.
It wouldn't have mattered a bit if Hillary Clinton had simply informed the student she didn't have the information available but she would check and get back to the young impressionable mind. You see, children are important to liberals except when their probing minds ask questions. Then the probing minds become pests.
Hillary is a byproduct of political nihilism which is found in just about every liberal mantra. They are mantras because when challenged they do not stand up to the facts.
Just like Senator Boxer, who snapped call me Senator not Ma'am, Hillary couldn't stand to have one of her core beliefs challenged. That core belief is that her femininity can not be questioned, even by the politically naive. It's all about the politics of collectivism, which breeds racism and discrimination with every turn.
The incident pinpoints the fact that Hillary, like many liberal females, is lost in the liberal jungle of euphemisms, double standards and outright hubris.
This is becoming a common occurrence in public. Public officials in touch with themselves, and the public who they represent be damned.
Just add an "er" to the end of a noun, as in birthers or shouters and you personalize an attack. The problem with liberals, and Hillary is the living embodiment of liberal mantras, is that they don't care. When you really care, you care about other people.
When push comes to shove, she really doesn't give a damn.
Clintidote| 8.15.09 @ 12:42PM
@ Daniel 8.14.09 @ 2:46PM:
She's there to stop rape? She couldn't even stop her own husband from being a rapist!
This old bitch and her rapist husband need to go, along with the doofus president, before they do more damage to our country.
Murder for money Judas 2009| 8.15.09 @ 2:40PM
jack| 8.14.09 @ 8:13AM
why do you think Obama has her in Africa? This is how Democrats rule. They are heartless,they are cruel,all the things they and media accuse Reps of.
________________________________All servants of Satan, do the same, if America want to militarise Africa to get Africans to kill each other, you have to spend time in each country to wind each other up. As long as Blacks keep killing each other and America and Europe rape the country and kill the people it's a good day for the opressor. It's the oldest trick in the book. Who said Racism was dead it has never been more alive. It's amazing what Judas would do for 30 bits of silver? The story has been told over and over again in so many different ways.
The Murder of 4 Presidents, and Martin Luther King Malcom X, Gandi, and the story of christ. Obama would sel out his own mother for money, as do all Satanist, who follow the Jewish agenda.
Bankrupt social security| 8.15.09 @ 3:05PM
The Social Security Fraud
by Sheldon Richman, September 2001
Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill upset some people recently simply by telling the truth. He had the temerity to say that the Social Security Trust Fund has no tangible assets. It’s empty.
Such candor is not rewarded in Washington, D.C., the balderdash capital of the world. One of those who got upset was Rep. Charles Rangel, ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. Of course the Trust Fund has tangible assets, Rangel said. It’s full of government bonds. What could be more tangible than that?
Rangel was either showing his penchant for demagoguery or his ignorance. Tough call.
O’Neill is right. The Trust Fund is a figment of our collective imagination. There’s no “there” there. It doesn’t exist.
Every cent that the American people pay in FICA payroll taxes is immediately spent. Anything left over after the current retirees are paid off goes into the general treasury where it is used, first, to make up any operating shortfall, and then to pay the government’s creditors. The Social Security Trust Fund is credited for that money in the form of nonnegotiable bonds that purportedly earn interest.
What if there was no trust fund at all? When FICA revenues fell short of retiree benefits, as they will in about 15 years, the government would have four options: cut benefits, cut other spending, raise taxes, or borrow.
But under the current system, when revenues fall short the government will still have to cut benefits, cut other spending, raise taxes, or borrow.
In other words, there’s no difference between having the trust fund and not having it.
It’s worse than a fiction. It’s a lie. Rangel may believe Social Security holds tangible assets, but no one else who has taken a close look could possibly think that. From the start, Social Security propagandists, led by Franklin Roosevelt, have tried to make the American people believe the system was like any private-sector pension program. They called taxes — i.e., forced exactions under threat of imprisonment — “contributions” and conjured up the phony-baloney trust fund. They wanted us to think that the money we “contribute” is put away for us individually, somehow invested so that when we retire we can draw a return on our money.
Nonsense! There can’t be a return: our money is consumed and gone forever. All the politicians really promise is that when we retire they will tax someone else and give that money to us.
I guess you could say that Social Security really does hold tangible assets: the taxpayers. But that sounds more like a hostage-taking or slavery than a pension program.
They also made Americans believe that employers contributed to the system. What a crock! It only appears that workers “contribute” about 6 percent of their wages, matched by a like amount from their employers. In reality there is no way that employers can make a contribution. Anything they pay is simply another form of compensation to their workers. If there were no Social Security, that cash would go directly to employees. The employer contribution is another illusion in a thoroughly dishonest system.
It is true that the system “worked” for a long time. That is, retirees for many years collected more in benefits than they ever paid in while working. That’s because the postwar baby boom supplied many more workers than there were retirees and politicians strove to buy votes from senior citizens by taxing workers ever more and raising benefits ever higher. But that party is about to end. Before long there will be about two workers for each retiree. Something will have to give. Will the working generation put up with dramatically higher payroll or income taxes to support the retired boomers? Or will they demand that other government spending be cut? As the government consumes more and more scarce resources, how will Americans respond to the resulting slower economic growth or even stagnation?
These vexing questions are what FDR and his New Deal bequeathed to us. Maybe that new monument on the Washington Mall should have been dedicated to Charles Ponzi.
Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation in Fairfax, Va., author of Tethered Citizens: Time to Repeal the Welfare State, and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine.
whyyeseyec| 8.15.09 @ 3:27PM
Shrillary`s dark side is the only side she has........
Counterfiet Jews NT times | 8.15.09 @ 4:21PM
New York Times Reveals that European-Descended Jews are Counterfeits and have no Blood line to Abraham
The fact that most of those who call themselves Jews are not Jews and have no claim to the lands of Palestine because they have no genetic relation to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can no longer be suppressed. The October 29, 1996 N.Y. Times, in an article entitled, "Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews," states:
"Arching over these questions is the central mystery of just where the Jews of Eastern Europe came from. Many historians believe that there were not nearly enough Jews in Western Europe to account for the huge population that later flourished in Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and nearby areas.
"By reconstructing the Yiddish mother tongue, linguists hope to plot the migration of the Jews and their language with a precision never possible before.
"It has even been suggested, on the basis of linguistic evidence, that the Jews of Eastern Europe were not predominantly part of the diaspora from the Middle East, but were members of another ethnic group that adopted Judaism.
"...One linguist has recently argued that Yiddish began as a Slavic language that was 'relexified,' with most of its vocabulary replaced with German words.
"...Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that during the Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western Europe. These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by the 17th century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.
"...Some scholars believe the roots of Yiddish, and even the Ashkenazic people themselves, lie much farther east. In his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe, Arthur Koestler made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that they were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse to Judaism in medieval times.
"More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews': A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers), by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist.
"Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a Slavic language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going even further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted Slavs and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the Diaspora."
(Emphasis supplied).
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TheBible is also a counterfeit| 8.15.09 @ 4:24PM
New York Times Reveals that European-Descended Jews are Counterfeits and have no Blood line to Abraham
The fact that most of those who call themselves Jews are not Jews and have no claim to the lands of Palestine because they have no genetic relation to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can no longer be suppressed. The October 29, 1996 N.Y. Times, in an article entitled, "Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews," states:
"Arching over these questions is the central mystery of just where the Jews of Eastern Europe came from. Many historians believe that there were not nearly enough Jews in Western Europe to account for the huge population that later flourished in Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and nearby areas.
"By reconstructing the Yiddish mother tongue, linguists hope to plot the migration of the Jews and their language with a precision never possible before.
"It has even been suggested, on the basis of linguistic evidence, that the Jews of Eastern Europe were not predominantly part of the diaspora from the Middle East, but were members of another ethnic group that adopted Judaism.
"...One linguist has recently argued that Yiddish began as a Slavic language that was 'relexified,' with most of its vocabulary replaced with German words.
"...Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that during the Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western Europe. These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by the 17th century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.
"...Some scholars believe the roots of Yiddish, and even the Ashkenazic people themselves, lie much farther east. In his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe, Arthur Koestler made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that they were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse to Judaism in medieval times.
"More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews': A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers), by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist.
"Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a Slavic language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going even further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted Slavs and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the Diaspora."
(Emphasis supplied).
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Kevin Riley O'Keeffe| 8.16.09 @ 8:49AM
Hillary Clinton has always been a horrible, miserable human being. Did anyone seriously think that would change, merely by making her Secretary of State?
Serge from NZ| 8.16.09 @ 4:57PM
To Paul: "not at all what one would expect of the typical American Spectator reader"
Enjoy singular, not typical; what's the point in uniformal comments?
Chris| 8.17.09 @ 8:26AM
Hillary had just spent two days listening to horror stories from Congolese women, how most Congolese women have been raped numerous times, how rape is a right of passage and considered the spoils of war. How women in that country are treated worse than livestock. Most Congolese men, no doubt, regard Hillary similarly. I don't blame her for being irked when asked what her husband thinks. And the fact that the idiot translator got it wrong is beside the point. She WAS asked what her husband thinks.
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Maybe she's TRYING to suck at it; Then she can step down and start Hillary 2012!!!
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