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Kitty| 6.15.09 @ 7:10AM

The reason Rush is popular is because he's a positive force . It's one of the reasons why people flock by the thousands to see Sarah Palin. The Democrats have always been doom'n'gloom.

Reagan's initial appeal, at least for me, was his positive attitude and his genuine love of country and flag. Compared to the wretched 70s, topped off by that idiot Carter, Reagan was a ray of sunshine who showed us the way out of Carter's malaise.

The GOP lost me when it became infected with RINOs. I am not hardcore or an extreme right-winger or a "party purist"; I am a conservative.

What's worked for the GOP has also worked for the country, and it's not moderates.

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George| 6.15.09 @ 7:37AM

I agree with Kitty's comment "I am not "party purist"; I am a conservative" The majoryity of issues I lean conservative. Obama speaks a positive "world message" while he is critical of the US. This will be his failed message. I did not vote last election for the first time in 26 years. I hope for a leader to emerge w/ a message of real hope in Americans, not gov't, and will not be afraid to say that America is good in the world. Obama sayed "It not about big gov't or small gov't but efficient gov't" Well, I disagree. Bigger gov't is always about power, control and large bureauacray that produce inefficiency. And Remember that Reagan stated that the most frightening words in the English language are: "I am here from the government and I am here to help".

Robert Rosencrans| 6.15.09 @ 7:52AM

Two huge blocks of voters put Obama over the top. Obama won the election by 9 million votes or so. Approximately 12 million Hispanic voters voted for Obama. Approximately 12 million African Americans voted for Obama. I believe that was the first time in American history that two minority groups put a candidate in office. In that sense, he's the Affirmative Action candidate. Will they be enough to put him over the top next time? Elected officials like Obama have a tendency to get the non voters out in the next election. Obama is an economy wrecker and that will become obvious soon. In the next election cycle his minority supporters may not be enough to get him over the top again.

Melvin| 6.15.09 @ 7:58AM

Kitty pretty much has said it all in why the name of the Republican Party is akin to a social disease.
I got fed up and left the Republican Party over Senator John McCain. My father and mother were stalwart Republicans and I was for the longest while until the Republican country club blue bloods wanted revenge for Reagan.
Well, I guess you could say the got their revenge and that revenge destroyed the Republican Party and by all appearances their revenge is also destroying this Country by allowing the fascists to dismantle our system of free enterprise and saddle future generations with debt beyond all reason.
As Kitty eluded to that she isn't hardcore Right Wing, but just a Conservative with simple Conservative values this speaks for the vast majority of Conservatives.
The best thing that can happen to the Republican Party is to let it die an honorable death, and stand aside a let a new Conservative Party to be formed without any of the former Republican Party leaders to participate.
If Senators McCain, Snow, and Collins want to continue to run under the Republican Party banner thats fine to, because there isn't a tinker's damn difference between them and the Democrats anyway, but at least it won't be with Conservatives because we'll have the Conservative Party to run against them and the Democrats.

JP| 6.15.09 @ 8:14AM

The same thing occured in the GOP in 1977. Who ran the GOP back then? Gerald Ford? Nelson Rockefeller? Howard Baker? Barry Goldwater? Bush41?

A few thought Ronald Reagan, but most pundits, GOP insiders, Beltway operators, and media moguls thought the Gipper was too old, too old fashion, and too divisive. They all wanted a polished Ivy League insider with "moderate creds." Bush41 was thier choice. Histroy proved them wrong.

Another similarity to 1977, was President Carter's popularity. His positive poll numbers were even greater than Obama's (about 65%). He also enjoyed a complete lock on Congress. The GOP could only boast of 38 Senators back then. Just like in 2009, most people thought the GOP was a spent force and would go the way of the Whigs.

Mike| 6.15.09 @ 8:21AM

Mr. Lott writes: "Obama has run up record deficits and he wants to spend still more on a "down payment" for larger health care restructuring. " True, but not exactly the entire story. Analysis of the Federal budget over the past decade reveals that the $2 trillion swing from surplus to debt can be accounted for as follows: 37% from lost revenue and increased spending on soical safety net programs during the 2001 and the current economic downturns; 33% from President Bush's tax cuts, Medicare prescription program, the war in Iraq and other spending; 20% from President Obama's continuation of Mr. Bush's programs and policies; 7% from the stimulus package signed by Mr. Bush and continued by Mr. Obama and 3% from spending on health care, education and energy. Time to quit arguing about whether it is Mr. Bush or Mr. Obama who is responsible for our economic mess. The fact is the mess was a glorious bi-partisan effort. Also, much can be attributed to our economic system-the best in the world, but not perfect.

Kitty, you may want to cue up the Meet the Press segment from Sunday when Dick Gregory was interviewing Mike Murphy and Joe Scarbourough. If Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney remain the voice of the GOP we will soon have a one party system, although not the one party system envisioned by Tom DeLay.
Goerge, you may benefit from reading Reiham Salam, Ross Douthat and governor Mitch Daniels who make the point that at a time when increasing numbers of people are looking to the Federal and state governments to help them in this time of economic stress the Reagan message that government is the problem doesn't resonate.

Michael L. Hauschild| 6.15.09 @ 8:59AM

".......at a time when increasing numbers of people are looking to the Federal and state governments to help them in this time of economic stress the Reagan message that government is the problem doesn't resonate."

Unless of course you are the dwindling minority funding that government. Those that will not give and those that will no longer get are about to become one in dissatisfaction with the present "government."
I have to give you credit Mike, that statement was simply the most mioptic ignorant thing I have ever seen in print on TAS. Good Lord, why do you think Reagen was elected in the first place?
Inflation, the leveling factor in taxation, as it was at the end of the Carter administration will be the driving factor in franchising candidates. Many of the "conservatives" are constantly casting about looking for the persona of a "Reagan," no need. All that is required for a "Republican" (whatever) resurgence is already in place, it is "economic stress" and the name this time is not Carter, it is Obama.

Jack| 6.15.09 @ 9:45AM

Any positive news or views a good conservative candidate will bring in 2012 will be a major departure from the misery and sadness under Obama.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 9:47AM

For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them
By Dan Balz
Sunday, June 14, 2009

There has been much chatter about who now speaks for the Republican Party, and whether the GOP has a message or an agenda to combat President Obama's popularity. Those questions are important to the party's future, but the most serious problem remains the deeper demographic and political forces at work in the country.

For the past few months, political analysts and demographers have been poring over the results of the 2008 election and comparing them with presidential results from the past two decades. From whatever angle of their approach -- age, race, economic status, geography -- they have come to a remarkably similar conclusion. Almost all indicators are pressing the Republicans into minority status.

Republicans are still capable of winning individual elections, but until they find a way to reverse, or at least minimize, these broader changes in the country, their chances of returning to majority status will be severely reduced.

The American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institution convened a stellar cast on Friday to review what has been learned since November. The panel included Robert Lang of Virginia Tech; Ruy Teixeira of the Center for American Progress; William Frey of the Brookings Institution; Bill Bishop, a Texas writer and author of "The Big Sort"; Scott Keeter of the Pew Research Center; and Ronald Brownstein of Atlantic Media. They presented a wealth of data about what happened in 2008 and offered conclusions that would alarm any Republican hopeful of a quick turnaround in the party's fortunes.

Democrats have won the popular vote in four of the past five elections, though in one case (2000) they did not end up in the White House. In years in which they have also won the electoral vote, Democrats have racked up sizable margins. Obama bested John McCain by 365 to 173, and Bill Clinton's two victories were in the same range. George W. Bush's two electoral-college victories were narrow; he won 271 votes in the disputed election of 2000 and 286 in his 2004 reelection.

What has brought this about? It's not just one thing -- it's everything. Start with the Democrats' success in the suburbs. Lang's formula is that demography and density have combined to help Democrats: They dominate not just the cities but also the urbanized suburbs that contain the largest share of the suburban population in America.

Democratic strength in the counties around Philadelphia, around Detroit and in Northern Virginia have squeezed Republicans dramatically. Increasingly, Republican strength outside the urban areas counts for less. "There's just not enough rural folks and small-city people left in America in the key states that determine the electoral college to offset that difference," Lang said. "You're out of people."

That's one geographical reality. The other, which became acute in 2008, is that outside the South, Republicans are in trouble. McCain won the South in November, but Obama swept the rest of the country by an even bigger margin. The same pattern holds now for House and Senate seats. Republicans may continue to win governorships in Democratic-leaning states, but in congressional and presidential elections the geographic divides are sizable.

Brownstein reeled off a list of statistics that all arrived at the same place: The South now accounts for a greater share of Republican strength than at virtually any time since the party's founding. That base is too narrow, as even Republicans know.

Demographically, the forces at work have chipped away at what was once a GOP-leaning majority in the country. The most important is minorities' rising share of the vote. Whites accounted for 76 percent of the overall electorate last November, down from 85 percent in 1988.

In the last election, there were more than 2 million additional African American voters, about 2 million more Hispanic voters and about a million more Asian American voters. All are groups in which Obama increased the Democratic share of the vote over 2004. Frey estimated that minority voters in nine states made the difference in Obama's victory margin.

Republicans can't reverse the demographic trends; their only solution is to increase their share of the minority vote. Opposing Judge Sonia Sotomayor, Obama's Supreme Court nominee, because of her pride in being a Latina won't help solve that problem.

There was much attention paid to Obama's trouble winning the votes of white working-class voters. The bad news for Republicans is that these voters represent a declining share of the electorate.

Since 1988, that group's proportion of the national electorate has dropped by 15 percentage points. In Pennsylvania, Teixeira reported, it has declined by 25 percentage points. Teixeira reported that Obama actually won the votes of working-class whites ages 25 to 29; at this point, they appear more culturally liberal than their elders.

As the working-class vote shrinks, the college-educated vote increases, and Democrats are gaining a greater share of these voters. Democrats lost white college graduates by 20 percentage points in 1988 but by four points last November. That is another big reason they have gained strength in the suburbs.

Obama's strength among young voters was a staple of coverage throughout his bid for the White House, although as Keeter pointed out, he could have won in November without the votes of anyone younger than 30. But his margin was the biggest in several decades and that alone should worry Republicans.

Obama may appeal to younger voters, but their shift toward the Democrats predates his candidacy. "This really is not Obama," Keeter said. "Young voters were John Kerry's best age group. They were the Democratic candidates' best age group in the 2006 elections, and they were the best age group for other Democratic candidates in 2008."

Younger voters are more diverse demographically than older voters. In 2008, 62 percent were white, compared with 74 percent eight years earlier. Projections show young voters will become increasingly diverse. They are also less religious and more culturally liberal, two indicators of Democratic support.

GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to a changing population. That debate has barely begun.

JP| 6.15.09 @ 9:57AM

Mike,
Funny that you bring up Mitch Daniels. Since 2006, he has slashed state expenditures by over 30%. He turned an $800 million defecit into a $1 billion surplus. (This was at a time when Big Auto and RV was in a melt down). He also forced the state to reform the property taxes (ie he cut property taxes for most counties), which forced the state legislature to prioritize its spending. The spending sprees his predecssors went on (O'Bannion and Kernen) would be stopped in thier tracks when he took over. His detractors said that he was a heartless bean counter, who would underfund city and local programs, allow the poor to go hungry, the uninsured to die, and the school children to go uneducated. The people reelected this heartless monster by a near landslide. The same people who relelected Daniels in Indiana also believed Obama's promises of being a centrist, as well as fiscally conservative. Indiana, for the first time since 1964 voted for a Dem. Your analysis is therefore flawed as your statistics.

Obama's defecits since Jan 2009 will equal the 8 years of defecits of Bush. Obama has spent (and borrowed) the equivalent of $2 trillion in his first 5 months.

Ryan| 6.15.09 @ 10:05AM

The % of African Americans who voted for Obama were not significantly higher than the % that voted for Kerry - there were just more of them.

Also, all the Republicans could offer was an old, fat, white guy. Take away one of those and we may have won the thing - on top of getting a real conservative to run.

Anthony| 6.15.09 @ 10:57AM

This poll once again proves the absolute worthlessness of polling. What we have is the general population responding to the most recent MSM news and reacting accordingly. Polls have usually proven one thing; most of the American population is utterly pliant, ignorant and misinformed.
No suprise about Rush or Gov. Palin; only the outspoken brave take the lead, the rest of the GOP Washington establishment, in the words of former V.P. Henry Wallace, "ain't worth a bucket of warm spit".

Grzmlyk| 6.15.09 @ 11:29AM

The GOP is indeed worthless, and Rush and Sarah Palin are positive conservative voices. But I fear they are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

The problem isn't to be solved just by scuttling the GOP - however richly it deserves scuttling. Whatever replaces it will very quickly look very much like the GOP, headed by a feckless and flaccid nonentity like Michael Steele.

The problem is first with demographics (most young voters, and there are thousands coming online every day) lean liberal - I don't think this is going to change. Young people bought Obama's BS hook, line and sinker. It's cool to be compassionate and it's cool to hate conservatives. Look at how desperately celebs like Jeanine Garofalo try to maintain their relevance by hewing to the culture's approved hate list.

Second, and more depressing - the government has gotten so big and its inertial forces so daunting that conservatives have essentially lost the argument about government being the problem. Republicans have ceded this ground time and time again - going back at least to Nixon (in the modern era). He started the EPA and enacted price controls, after all.

It is this surrender of the playing field that has destroyed conservatism - because the media and pop culture, not to mention the Washington Ruling Class's ethos all agree that government exists to solve people's problems large and small. Bush was no better than a run-of-the-mill liberal in this regard. So, thanks to the monolithic media, we look "mean" if we dare to suggest that various victim groups don't deserve special consideration. Look at the hue and cry over Sotomayor - there is no question that she is, at a minimum, clouded by racial prejudice - yet the media and pop culture refuse to acknowledge the elephant (pardon the expression) in the room. The result is people like Newt Gingrich wind up backpeddling, chastened for speaking what is an obvious truth and ceding the "compassion" argument utterly.

Once you cede the argument that government is the answer to everyone's problems, conservatives lose their mojo entirely - they're relegated to arguing for a little less government control, slightly fewer constraints on capitalism, while all the time remaining planted firmly on liberal ground, which is the assumption that the Federal Government exists to solve people's problems.

So conservatives are forever consigned to the role of ankle biters nipping at the heels of the Leviathan. The concepts of individual liberty and responsibility are as dead as the American auto industry.

That's why it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. And look at the Republicans the party has run for President lately. McCain is an out-and-out gimlet-eyed liberal, Romney ceded the health care issue (no doubt with more "go along to get along to follow), Huckabee is a trojan horse of liberal philosophy, Giuliani is a social liberal and on and on and on.

That's why it's not over just for the GOP in this country. It's over for conservatism, and not until the Monster collapses under its own weight will there be enough oxygen to support conservative values.

AngeloZ| 6.15.09 @ 12:13PM

I am somwhat surprised to see Rush's name up front as a GOP Leader. I think that Kitty is right, Rush is the only positive force out there. More important, however is that while people like General Powel feel that conservatism is perhaps extinct, and the party ought to become Democrat light are proven wrong by this survey.

Louis Jenkins| 6.15.09 @ 12:37PM

The GOP appears to be in deep hibernation. In January 2008 friends predicted that McCain would be the Republican nominee. I gnashed my teeth, ranted and raved, and pretty much behaved like a mad man. While they predicted whom, I predicted, should they be correct, that the writing was on the wall. The GOP finds itself in need of an enema or no less than a colon cleansing if it is to return to sound Conservative health. Unfortunately, men in a smoke filled room may have already decided who will represent the GOP in 2012. If the GOP tries to combat Obama with a moderate candidate/platform then there will be more weeping and wailing, at least on my part. Where’s the difference? It has no contrast in the political world.

James Nayzeum| 6.15.09 @ 1:23PM

I generally agree with Mr Jenkins and Grzymlk.
Conservatives, and likely Libertarians, are gonna be in the wilderness for awhile.
I am a BIG BELIEVER in the Pendulum theory. The Pendulum will have to swing really hard LEFT and infllict massive pain on taxpayers 1st, then as they get tapped out (The Golden geese die a thousand deaths) then...the recipients of tax and spend giveaways will wonder where it all went..
Only then, will there be a demand to return to fiscal restraint, and responsibility, to lower taxes, lower regulation, less Government intervention and meddling..Only when we reach the point where those being taxed have nothing left to give to the recipients, will this be over...and we will then have a shift back to the right..I really hope I am wrong but this is why someone, somehwere, came up with the word CYCLE, and it's derivative: CYCICAL... We have "cycled" back to tax,spend, redistribute by Big Government...
Don't worry.. The Younguns will tire of the Utopian vision and soon find out that there is no "free lunch" and you have to pay for it, or receive a lot less of "it".. but that could take a longgggggggggggggg...time.

GeneCar| 6.15.09 @ 1:29PM

The idea that a rise in the share of recent immigrants such as Hispanics will favour the Democrats needs some qualification. For a long time the Democratic Party had a lock on European immigrants, such as the strongly Catholic Irish, Italians and Poles. That was broken when the Democrats embaced McGovernite radicalism, particularly on 'social issues'. Thus was born the 'Reagan Democrats'. Recent ballots on same-sex marraige have shown just how socially conservative Hispanics are. Barrack Obama and his supporters are at the extrme end of the pro-abortion spectrum. Yet no less than five recent polls have shown that the US leans more to the pro-live side of the spectrum. Lucretia proclaims the rise of the
'Palin Democrats'.

JP| 6.15.09 @ 1:54PM

Grzmyk,
In the past young people could afford to lean liberal -since 1983 jobs were essientially plentifull. Most people under 40 do not remember the 1981-1983 recession.

However, it is a totaly different ball game. Today's liberalsim (or progressivism) is not blue collar or "working class". It is prepatrated by upper middle class and the wealthy. Obama is attractive to the comfortable, well-off, white upper crust. However, if you are a recent college grad and cannot find a job, or just got receventl laid-off, his type of charisma wears thin.

The GOP needs to re-emphasize basic libertarian-conservative idea and policies, while keeping the heat on the Dems and Obama. Already the glitter and stardust are wearing off of the Obama administration -and he has only been in office 6 months.

Mike| 6.15.09 @ 2:01PM

Michael,
You write, "Unless of course you are the dwindling minority funding that government. Those that will not give and those that will no longer get are about to become one in dissatisfaction with the present "government." The dwindling number of people paying federal taxes is disturbing. At issue is why so many. Are they shiftless? Have their previous well paying jobs been outsourced? Are they unable to earn enough in the service economy to even make end meet, let alone pay taxes? I believe most people who aren't paying federal taxes would love to have a job that pays enough to put them into a taxable catagory. Also, I don't disagree with your understanding of why Mr. Reagan was elected. Even the current president agrees with you. All I am saying is some conservative thinkers are reassessing the utility of Reagan's anti-government message and his economic policies.

JP, all I am saying is that Mitch Daniels chooses not to reference Ronald Reagan in his campaigning. There is an article about the Reagan mystique in the Sunday Times

Grzmlyk| 6.15.09 @ 3:25PM

JP:

I hope you are right. I actually think conservatism would have a chance if it weren't for the stranglehold the media has on both balkanized "victim groups" and especially young people. (But the government is already so metastasized in terms of dictating the cultural ethos, even that hope is very faint).

Above all else, youth really want to be accepted, so they all adhere to principles that in their hearts they don't necessarily live by or even comprehend. I deal with people in their 20s who spout white-hot hatred of Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney, and I'll bet they don't even know why - but they do know who it's cool to hate.

Paradoxically, I just heard that a Gallup poll (maybe it was a different org) said that something like 40% of Americans think of themselves as conservatives; that may be true, but then why does the media (with the exception of Fox News, the Washington Times, NY Post and a few others) continue to preach unrelenting, wall-to-wall "diversity," "tolerance," "social justice" and other euphemisms for Marxism? Even though the MSM's audience is dwindling, there is plenty of other liberal propaganda out there - look at TV/Hollywood! It's depressing!

I mean, Rupert Murdoch, owner of Newscorp (parent company of Fox News and NY Post, among others) has just appointed a frickin' DIVERSITY officer. If that isn't ceding the playing field to liberals' definition of what the playing field ought to look like, I don't know what is.

But believe me, I pray you are right! And I do agree that once it's not other people's money but your own that the government is going after, it's different. But I'm very pessimistic, because first it's just, gee, isn't the government compassionate and unsullied by selfish capitalism, which makes us all feel so good about ourselves, and then it's bald-faced coercion.

Obama's a thug and I fear that even after the halo dims, the iron fist beneath the velvet glove will continue to cow people such that totalitarianism is our ultimate fate.

Scott| 6.15.09 @ 4:57PM

The management of the GOP is a good part of the issue. They aren't fielding good candidates. Most are "good Ol' boys" who are RHINOs, corrupt, or just plain terrible.

Add to that the MSM media, the liberal indoctrination of all levels of learning, Democratic "slave voters" on the dole, voter fraud, and its a recipe for the malaise we face today.

Siegfried X| 6.15.09 @ 5:02PM

I agree with the comments about McCain, the RINOs, and the need for conservatism. However another solution instead of leaving the party is to have a "party within the party". Only give money and votes to real conservatives. Don't give any money directly to the Republican Party or the campaign committees because most of it will be given to RINOs. If a RINO is running, then vote for a third party conservative instead (Constitution or Libertarian parties).

Unfortunately the rules are rigged so that we don't get a choice very often. All the incumbents stick together and discourage challengers. McCain's nomination was rigged, with rules favoring the liberals. The problem will only be solved when some insiders rebel against the system to force fair primaries within the party.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 5:39PM

It is sad to know that the most disgusting faction of the conservative movement is in control of the Republican Party.

I can understand why many don't support the Powell types, but it doesn't makes sense to align yourselves with the most hateful/ radical factions of your Party.

It is sort of like if the WTO protesters controlled the Democratic Party, & they don't.

The Republican party reminds me of when the Al Sharpton & the Jessie Jackson types were playing out within the Democratic Party, because many of us supported them when they were forcing sensible people to distance themselves from that Party.

It wasn't until the Democrats in the MSM stop giving them face time when things started getting better for them. The Democratic Party hasn't changed much, they just dropped the dead weight.

I am listening to Sean Hannity's show right now & I have been saying to myself that this guy is disgusting for the past 2 hrs & been saying that about the talk radio repugs for over 15yrs..

The sadest thing of them all is that those jerks haven't produced anything for you. At least the Jackson & Sharpton types were affective in their prime; the talk radio jerks just make you feel good... straight emotion.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 6:19PM

Paradoxically, I just heard that a Gallup poll (maybe it was a different org) said that something like 40% of Americans think of themselves as conservatives; that may be true, but then why does the media (with the exception of Fox News, the Washington Times, NY Post and a few others) continue to preach unrelenting, wall-to-wall "diversity," "tolerance," "social justice" and other euphemisms for Marxism? Even though the MSM's audience is dwindling, there is plenty of other liberal propaganda out there - look at TV/Hollywood! It's depressing!

***************

This is the main reason why I love the constitution so much, because it allows me to peacefully co-exist around your kind. Our constitution in my mind is more respectful to others than most of your religions.

... "Our constitution is the true example of diversity & tolerance, so you should hate that too."

Thank God for our liberal founding fathers.

Define diversity:

1: the condition of being diverse : variety ; especially : the inclusion of diverse people (as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization.

Define tolerance:

2a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own b: the act of allowing something.

By websters dictionary

Good Republicans ought to be ashaimed of themselves.

P.S. I still wonder what God (god) do you worship.

Old Texican| 6.15.09 @ 6:32PM

Hey Marcell
"...I know who you are and I'm coming to get you...boom! good night, and enjoy hell."

Hmmmmm....
That is what Marcelllooser has been telling we contitutionalists isn't it? Well, he will wind up in Obama's blue shirts if he has any testicleees (sic) at all.
Kiss my hiney!
Rush and Hannity, for all their possible mistakes, are on OUR side.
You know, Marcell, you just need to learn how to hammer a nail, drill a screw, or fire a rivet and hang steel in the sky.
If you cannot build something...then you truly don't have a place here. Truly you do not.
Go get a gubmint job!
(Heh.)

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 6:37PM

Old Texican, I am willing to die for my / our country, & that liberal constitution that we claim we love, so you aint said nothing.

Lion, tigers & bears... " SO WHAT!! "

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 6:42PM

Martin Luther King, Jr.'s last speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FiCxZKuv8

Old Texican| 6.15.09 @ 6:57PM

No you ain't!
You are a hiding little squirrel...but I know who you are.
You are not willing to die for anything but your mommy's basement.
You have never earned any respect in the real world and you have never built anything except candy castles in the air...
I shall continue to diss you until you express some honesty about REAL LIFE things.

(Oh...PS: when you were a tinkle in your illigitimate father's eye...dumbshitttt...I was MARCHING with Dr. King.
Got the stitches!

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 7:17PM

Hush Grand pa... I mean Old Texican.

=)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tGioDgUY7w

Richard Baker| 6.15.09 @ 7:55PM

Since the Republicans ditched the ideas of Goldwater and Reagan, they should prepare for their "Whig" party to vanish into the ether. You know though, the end of the Whigs gave us Lincoln. Will history repeat itself? Hope so.

7th Gen Texan| 6.15.09 @ 8:06PM

Old Texican,

I concur, they are on the short end of the stick, the anti-gunners want to start a fight, they are bringin uh knife to a gun fight.

Marcell,

You know so much about the founding father? Who said this? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure.

Yup, that sounds pretty liberal. what will really blow your mind is that this country isn't a democracy, never was, it is a representative republic. The federal government isn't suppose to control the states nor the people, it is simply suppose to take it's orders from the people through the states, from the people.

Here is another for you, the right to choose and the seperation of church and state, what do they both have in common? neither of them can be found in the constitution. before you make an ass of yourself you better go carefully read the document and think about it. the constitution is neither liberal nor conservative, it just is; it was written by very conservative men though. Before you try to give me a lesson on the constitution, try reading it then read the writing of the foun ding father (DON'T MISTAKE THE WRITING ABOUT THE FOUNDERS WITH THOSE OF THE FOUNDERS) they were very clear about what their purposes were in there individual writing and it adds great understanding to the document.

Marvin Powers| 6.15.09 @ 8:23PM

Our system will collapse, sooner now, rather than later. If the rest of the world could come up with a way to trade without the yankee dollar tomorrow, our system would collapse tomorrow. The world is only going to take our worthless dollar for so long. With our industry gone to China and elsewhere, with our refusal to drill our own gas and oil and to build nuclear plants like the rest of the world, and our freedoms and liberties taken away by internationalists in our own country, we are very close to being the newest "banana republic" on the world scene. Ultimately, this is what most of the world wants. Then Israel must gird it's loins, 'cuz they're in for some excitement. Grace and Peace Ya'll.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 8:30PM

I like this quote by Jefferson better, because it tells what the Repugs have done to the Republican Party.

“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”

Dennis| 6.15.09 @ 8:32PM

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Alan Brooks| 6.15.09 @ 8:38PM

since his photo heads this piece:
Dubya was strong, honest-- but suffered from entire lack of focus.
Like his father, a good person but lousy president.

ds80| 6.15.09 @ 8:43PM

When the dollar collapses and the hyperinflation starts (Marcell, Mike, ...) we'll have Obama to thank. It's HIS mess completely, because it's been HIS administration's policy actions: quadrupling of the deficit in a short 5 months.

BTW Marcell, save your breath: why would a conservative listen to "advice" from a liberal? For example, that average, political general, Colin Powell -?

Or you?

Alan Brooks| 6.15.09 @ 8:52PM

frankly, it's a very great relief Dubya is retired. At least Obama is a real Democrat-- far better than a confused RINO.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 9:00PM

Yup, that sounds pretty liberal. what will really blow your mind is that this country isn't a democracy, never was, it is a representative republic. The federal government isn't suppose to control the states nor the people, it is simply suppose to take it's orders from the people through the states, from the people.

Here is another for you, the right to choose and the seperation of church and state, what do they both have in common? neither of them can be found in the constitution. before you make an ass of yourself you better go carefully read the document and think about it. the constitution is neither liberal nor conservative, it just is; it was written by very conservative men though. Before you try to give me a lesson on the constitution, try reading it then read the writing of the foun ding father (DON'T MISTAKE THE WRITING ABOUT THE FOUNDERS WITH THOSE OF THE FOUNDERS) they were very clear about what their purposes were in there individual writing and it adds great understanding to the d

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You have a point when you say the constitution is neither liberal nor conservative. I understand that that it is part of human nature to separate ourselves into factions & claim some sort of superiority over others, even our founders did that, but they did create a document that even shines more today than it did when it was conceived.

1776 July 4. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

I don't care to talk about the constitution with you constitutional hypocrites, because your outdated ideas died with the bigots that gave us the greatest document on the planet earth, IMHO.

The great thing about our founding fathers is that they loved freedom for themselves so much that they created a document that eventually lived up to its purpose for the descendents of their slaves & etc.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 9:12PM

America needs people who will do what is right, regardless of the risks.

*********

Dennis prove you point & tell Old Texican to knockoff the threats; it's against the rules of this website. I would have been reported & banned if I did that.

"Now let's see what happens."

The goofy looking white liberal students have more guts than many of you.

7th Gen Texan| 6.15.09 @ 9:20PM

That pretty much made my point Marcell, you cannot take thw part you like and throw the rest away, part without the whole is equal to none at all. Marcell your an idiot, when the only way you can think of to defend your point of view is to play the race card and run back to your talking points, there is no longer intelligent discoarse to be had. Saul Alinski was a bastard and you are one of his bastard children.

De nnis| 6.15.09 @ 9:59PM

The future of America hinges upon one thing: we either stop the Obama agenda quickly, or we lose America. It is that simple. He is following the pattern of Hitler, of Stalin, of Castro. He is following the tactics laid out in the book he taught to ACORN members, Rules for Radicals. He is following in the teaching of his natural father, a Kenyan Communist, and his mother, a communist sympathizer, as well as the teachings ingrained into him by Indonesian Muslims. He is doing as his mentor in Hawaii, Frank Marshall Davis, a militant communist, taught him, as his 20-year pal and mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright taught him. In short, Obama is everything anti-thetical to the historical culture, beliefs, and freedoms of America. He is anti-free market, anti-Constitutional freedoms, anti-American. If you study the man - his background, his words (carefully chosen but still full of information about him to anyone who can read beneath the surface), and his actions, you will see a man who hates all that America is and who wants to "change" it. He WILL destroy America, unless we stop him. It is his goal. He has already set us up for a totally ruined economy, one which will make it easier for him to gain total control over it. he has already expressed his desire to remove our freedom to choose our own health care providers, to own weapons, to speak out against him, to have free elections, and so on. He is anti-Israel, which is the epitome of being anti-America, because Israel is our one great ally in the region. He is anti-America to the core. America elected as our leader the one most dangerous man alive today, a man who wants to and will destroy all that we hold dear, unless the cowardly Republicans stand up, risk their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor, to stop him.

Havoc| 6.15.09 @ 11:32PM

President Bush never spoke for the party while he was in office, why would he speak for it now? He was, simply, a disaster for the nation and the party, both.

Marcell| 6.15.09 @ 11:41PM

7th Gen Texan| 6.15.09 @ 9:20PM

That pretty much made my point Marcell, you cannot take thw part you like and throw the rest away, part without the whole is equal to none at all. Marcell your an idiot, when the only way you can think of to defend your point of view is to play the race card and run back to your talking points, there is no longer intelligent discoarse to be had. Saul Alinski was a bastard and you are one of his bastard children.

^^^^^

(The comp bar is set on low)

7th Gen Texan

I am not going to ignore the racism just to have a simple conversation at this site. I don't even like talking race, but the bigots force it out of me.

When I talk about issues with most conservatives the issues quickly turn into a race conversation, because they seem to want to live up to their hate for PC... or some thing, but I still manage to stay focus a make my points about other issues. In a typical environment (Reality), I wouldn't have to delve into the petty bickering with the bigots, because their friends would ask them to show some respect.

Here is my tribute to Old Texican( Grand Pa)

=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOvnSzQetRY&feature=related

The satire is to flip my anger onto you, so you can lose your cool, not me. You conservatives don't realize that I want the racist bigots to spew their hate, because it forces others to distance themselves from that person or your Party. That is why your Party is getting smaller & looking more like Dixie.

..."Heck," I learned it from Rush Limbaugh. All the Republican attacks are just me mimmicking the right-wingers, some times white wingers, & I am doing it better than they are too. =)

Republicans don't seem to realize that all these years of spending my time hanging around conservatives like I do puts me at an advantage, & the teleprompter loves it; I just want to get paid more, & it will come in due time, from one Party or the other.

The advantage it gives me is it teaches me how to handle the toughest conservatives in the U.S., I have heard all of your issues, I know today's conservatism backwards & forwards (Taxes & everything). & "I know how to consistently win a debate in their hostel environments."

The point I am trying to make is that we are feeding off your stubborn personalities, because they are not mainstream. That is why Obama nominated a Latino woman for the Supreme Court.

Quote:

" Marcell, you just need to learn how to hammer a nail, drill a screw, or fire a rivet and hang steel in the sky."

"If you cannot build something...then you truly don't have a place here. Truly you do not. Go get a gubmint job! (Heh.)"

Thus explain why the liberals control all the major media outlets, & why you people spend most of your time complaining about how much you hate them.

Like I said: white college students have more guts than most of you, because they would tell the white bigots to shut up.

P.S. Now I see why they created diversity training.

JWA Video: Cultural Diversity in the WorkPlace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bChZfFG5RqA

( Conter-conservativism)

LMAO!!

Marcell | 6.15.09 @ 11:53PM

Dennis| 6.15.09 @ 9:59PM

The future of America hinges upon one thing: we either stop the Obama agenda quickly, or we lose America. It is that simple. He is following the pattern of Hitler, of Stalin, of Castro. He is following the tactics laid out in the book he taught to ACORN members, Rules for Radicals. He is following in the teaching of his natural father, a Kenyan Communist, and his mother, a communist sympathizer, as well as the teachings ingrained into him by Indonesian Muslims. He is doing as his mentor in Hawaii, Frank Marshall Davis, a militant communist, taught him, as his 20-year pal and mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright taught him. In short, Obama is everything anti-thetical to the historical culture, beliefs, and freedoms of America. He is anti-free market, anti-Constitutional freedoms, anti-American.

**********

Nothing but hate = conservatism.

=)

Grzmlyk| 6.16.09 @ 12:04AM

Pretty funny. I just read Marcell's comments - or skimmed through the pablum.

Really, it boils down to this: Marcell - are dishonest or just stupid?

Marcell| 6.16.09 @ 12:05AM

Thank you, Dennis & Grand Pa:

Sarah Palin Draws In The Looney Crowd At Her Rallies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuD7Sdax00s

Why shouldn't I use these tactics, when they are working?

Marcell| 6.16.09 @ 12:20AM

Pablum

The youngsters love pablum, " They call it entertainment."

The reality is the satire is working for Democrats like it use to in the 90's for conservatives.

Daisy| 6.16.09 @ 12:46AM

The same Gallup Poll stated that 40% of the respondents considered themselves CONSERVATIVE and only 20% LIBERAL.

That's fantastic news! If 40% of Americans still think of themselves as Conservatives after what we've been through the last few years, I think it's a reason to party!! We just need a strong leader--we've already got the great ideas, unlike Democrats.

Besides, after Moron in Chief and his pet clown Biden get done with us in four years, Americans are going to beg for smart, patriotic, principled and Conservative governance with emphasis on free markets.

Hang tough, people--we can get rid of these liberal morons, we just have to work together.

Angel| 6.16.09 @ 1:19AM

Grzmlyk, the answer is both.

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G.A. Kevis| 6.16.09 @ 5:00AM

How did BHO progress - politically, racially?

No sudden moves, he says in auto-bio.

Well, shucks, us crackers may be stumped.

Should GOP also then not make sudden moves?

Richard Baker| 6.16.09 @ 7:29AM

7th Gen Texan:
What amazes me is that these liberals love to quote Jefferson and forget that he was a Revolutionary against tyranny and that he put our system, which works, in play. These folks also use various pesthole countries such as Mexico, China, France, and England as societal role models and I ask just what is it that these countries do that we should emulate? Other than the French use of nuclear energy, what then?

gzmlyk| 6.16.09 @ 8:33AM

Angel:

I never cease to be amazed at how many liberals ignore history, ignore human nature, ignore "the facts on the ground," and continue to spin a fantasy world out of the cotton candy of moral vanity.

And, of course, they always just happen to be exempt from the standards they apply so rigorously to others. The most dogmatic of "pocket socialists" never fails to try for the biggest paycheck for him- or herself. Funny how THAT never seems to qualify as crass, selfish capitalism.

Actually, there are only 3 kinds of liberals: beneficiaries of the system, fools and knaves. I suppose you can be forgiven - somewhat - if you're under 25. You're expected to be a fool at that age. Maybe that's Marcell's excuse.

But the professional class? People like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the Big O? Utterly corrupt felons. Obama doesn't even really try to hide it, and the more reality-challenged fools like Marcell kiss his hindquarters, the bolder Obama gets.

Not that the last four months of Chicago-style patronage, payola and perfidy aren't already replete with examples, but Obama just fired inspector general Gerald Walpin, who put the heat on the corruption at Americorps perpetrated by Kevin Johnson, a paid-in-full member of Obama's thugocracy.

Not a word in the sycophantic media, of course ("hey, love the emperor's new clothes!"); Walpin didn't serve at the pleasure of the president, as the seven U.S. attorneys properly fired by Bush did (and whined about TO THIS DAY by cynical, dishonest liberals). This position was designed to be institutionally insulated from the viscissitudes of rough-and-tumble politics. But Obama fired him anyway because Obama did what gangstas do.

But no, according to this moron Marcell and that James creep from the other thread, it's conservatives who are the viper's nest of all things negative.

I wonder if, under "occupation" on his government forms, Marcell scribbles the words "useful idiot" with his crayon.

I do hope he and his ilk enjoy the world their foolishness helped to create.

Marcell| 6.16.09 @ 11:29AM

I never cease to be amazed at how many liberals ignore history, ignore human nature, ignore "the facts on the ground," and continue to spin a fantasy world out of the cotton candy of moral vanity.

******************

Great morning, gzmlyk

These are your phony realities.

Did you people ever find Barack Obama's birth certificate for him?

Joe the Plumber made sense.

Palin refused that bridge to nowhere.

Yeah, Bu$h was a conservative back in 2000 & 2004.

Water boarding has always been legal.

Conservatives can win by being Xenophobes.

& Black conservatives...Why I'm A Conservative Republican
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acQluy7nymw

The Repug talk show host are positive thinkers.

If it weren't for the liberal press McCain would have won.

Most conservatives are not bigots, so they don't need diversity training.

The constitution is not a living document, but it can be amended.

"It is not the truth that matters, it is what you can get people to believe." by Rush Limbaugh

I like the last quote the most, because that was all the reality we got from Ru$h, Bush & Cheney.

P.S. Here is some fantasy for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8wzWOtRbmI

Angel| 6.16.09 @ 1:53PM

Marcel Marceau Mime, stick this 'fantasy' in your pipe and smoke it--9.4% -and skyrocketing- unemployment. That's a deal breaker, dude.

Double digit unemployment could be a death knell for your Obamasssiah. Better start looking for a real job, troll.

Bush joker in the pack| 6.16.09 @ 5:03PM

The US dollar is not Russia’s basic reserve currency anymore. The euro-based share of reserve assets of Russia’s Central Bank increased to the level of 47.5 percent as of January 1, 2009 and exceeded the investments in dollar assets, which made up 41.5 percent, The Vedomosti newspaper wrote.

The reality of America, and he fall from grace was written long before Obama was ever heard of.

George Bush, and Dick Cheney, and Rumsfeld signed her death certificate.

While Americans fantasized on the American dream, the wealth of a nation was stolen. And the American debt was growing faster than her GDP.

And America is now paying 5 Billion per day to service the interest, 35 Billion per week in interest payments alone.

The Romance with the Republican Party is as dead as the American economy. The American debt is unsustainable.

When a country spends more on wars than the growth in the ecomomy, eventually it's killed of.

As for the Swine flu, people buying Tamiflu globally will promote a bounce in the economy and make Bush and Rumsfeld a nice sized loot.

billyboy| 6.16.09 @ 5:14PM

Looks like Marcell had a hard night but he got up at noon and went to work?

Matthias Garrigan| 6.16.09 @ 6:04PM

Will all due respect to John McCain there aren't any Republican heroes out there who will go b___s-to-the-wall for conservative ideas. They all talk about the finer points of tuning the economy or bring up Democratic ineptness as a reason to vote for them. The idea of conservatism to me is this: Make BANKABLE progress. Keep it, don't question it.

Conservatives can be liberals but, at least today, what passes for 'Liberals' cannot possibly be Conservatives. The very term 'Liberal' is misused. Where is the center? Conservatism is not a party, it's common sense. Keep what you have and add to it. The more you have the more you can help others. What greater pleasure in the universe could there be than helping someone else?

I was delighted to see and hear Sarah Palin speaking about American Conservative values. I felt that this Washington 'virgin' would actually drive most of the so-called liberals to hara-kiri. Ever hopeful.

I just would like to see a Republican get up there and say 'Hey, Americans - Wake Up! Your future is at stake. Our manufacturing base, the ability of the average American farmer to earn a living ist Kaput!' When are we going to concern ourselves with 'Us'? What about our children? Big business may have all the answers as far as keeping our retirement stock portfolios gaining but what about our land, resources, and the ability to sustain ourselves? Do we, as African and European (alphabetic collation) Americans have the right to claim and protect our property and resources (including the job market resource) for ourselves? Is this truly isolationist? If it is isolationist then I guess you can write this response off to another nut case. African Americans should be convincing Thomas Sowell or Alan Keyes to represent them in the elections, not a troop of Bozo's.

I envy the French. They do nothing and muddle through. They probably don't have long to live but I tell you this, those Frenchmen know how to live. I want to ENJOY my life, not pursue unrelenting strife at the polls. I would rather not be pulled into imaginary arguments like guys and lesbians being married. If that issue is a voting point then we have truly lost our focus.

What we should be doing is cultivating the relationships between ourselves and our hemispherical neighbors in South America. We should create an organization that OWNS this hemisphere along with our South American brothers. A powerful country is good, a powerful hemisphere is better! Think of the trade opportunities! Big business may not be impressed but friends are better than money in the bank.

I think it's time to bring the cold, hard, beautiful truth home to America - that strong individuals make thoughtful, reliable, sober citizens, and that every effort, bill, law, and appointment should reflect the values with which we mustered the strength and discipline to reach the point where we could make Presidents out of idiots and still persevere. We used to beworth something, now we're a laughing stock. To hell with the rules. If Justices turn out to be fruits then junk them. Who's going to stop us?

Stand your ground American patriots. Be brave. Don't walk away from the 'liberals', give them a piece of your mind. After all, in the absence of information, anyone who's talking will be believed. Get on it!!!

God bless us all. ... and good luck.

Matt

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Ed Laskie| 6.18.09 @ 6:22AM

McCain would have been just a little better than Obama and still had a Democratic Congress. If McCain was elected then the Republicans would really be blamed for the financial mess coming. The truth is government is the problem as Reagan said. There just was no big difference in choice given. Especially when Obama lied on what he was going to do, made McCain look like the liberal he is. Perhaps this is the coming of the age of the Libertarian party. 1.5 trillion in new regulations will kill free enterprise. It takes a lawyer to run a small business now days. God Help US!!!

Marcell| 6.18.09 @ 6:43AM

I know that I am winning the debate when the people like Aman start doing what he or she is doing, what he is doing is alltoo typical in the places where I normally hang out.

Sassy| 6.18.09 @ 10:54PM

What debate, Idiot? We don't give a sh!t what you think. lol

Richard Baker| 6.18.09 @ 11:25PM

Marcell:
When the time comes to defend Liberty and Freedom against Tyranny, will you still be engaged in sterile discussion? Do read Mr. Jefferson on Tyranny and the Liberty Tree. Enlightening.

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