Sen. Tom Harkin has conceded that the proposed expansion of
Medicare and "triggered" public option would have to be dropped
to get a health care bill passed in the Senate, TPM
reports, as he tried to sell liberals on the value of the
provisions in the rest of the bill:
"There's enough good in this bill that even without those two,
we gotta move," he said. "All the insurance reforms, all the
stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there,
the workforce development issues that we have in there, the
reimbursement based on quality not on quantity -- there's good
stuff in this bill. It's a giant step forward, changing the
paradigm of health care in America."
The Democrats are currently in a caucus meeting discussing ways
to get to 60 votes. The big question is whether liberals such as
Sens. Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Roland Burris and Russ
Feingold will go along with the changes. To many ideological
liberals, absent a government plan, legislation would merely be
pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into a for-profit health
care system that they see as fundamentally broken.
And that doesn't even take into account the House progressives,
whose leader already
came out against the Senate compromise that included the
Medicare expansion and "triggered" public option.
As always conservative media is late to the party. They're
Tweeting now that loud applause is coming out of the Democrat
Party meeting room. Every conservative blog I read is MIA MIA MIA
MIA. (MISSING IN ACTION). This is why we lose. I don't know where
everyone is, but either stick to blogging and actually keep up
with the pulse, or be a public speaker somewhere. You guys fail
at doing both. Where's Michelle Malkin, Hot Air, Powerline,
American Thinker (Their day ends at 2 PM I swear). The
Conservative Media is slow and loses time and time again. Many
start the weekend on Friday.
Yeah, at Noon it looked like Obamacare was dead. Time to do a
little Christmas Shopping. Well, a handshake between Reid and
Lieberman takes 2 seconds, and it sounds like it just happened.
Paul| 12.14.09 @ 7:37PM
While I don't share Kyle's vitriolic attitude towards the
"conservative media", I do share his view that there is little
doubt that the Democrats, after struggling mightily and absurdly
to reach an "historic" compromise amongst themselves, will
produce and pass a bill enshrining into law a huge power grab by
the federal government over the US healthcare system. It is
exactly the wrong direction for the country.
The Republicans must be faulted for failing to articulate and
promote successfully an alternative vision comprising equal tax
treatment for individual plans as a means of encouraging
portability, reduction or elimination of mandated coverage,
encouragement of high-deductible plans (so-called "catastrophic
coverage", which is what I have), interstate insurance
competition and , of course, government-provided coverage for
people in need, howsoever one wishes to define it.
Elimination of the private healthcare insurance market for all
but the wealthiest in America, as is surely coming, will result
in higher taxes, increased medical costs, less choice, and lower
quality for the vast majority of Americans.
And, by the way, will harm US competitiveness in the global
marketplace.
Thanks Paul, I need a lecture from the smart ones to calm down
now and then. Yeah, my post was so vitriolic, almost as bad as
the left wing media who in less than 24 hours had a petition
going around to try and get Lieberman's wife fired from her job.
Of course, I wouldn't agree with doing the same to my adversary,
but you gotta admit; the libs fight like dogs.
Meanwhile, we conservatives will just keep promoting our books
and having freedom concerts, go on week long golf outings every
quarter, and wonder why the message gets lost. There is a lot of
media out there and a lot of worthless conservative noise. You
can count me among them if you want, but I vow to remain vigilant
for freedom. Evil doesn't take a vacation or set their watch by
going to dinner.
Remember, Conservative media guys who have made it, gather up the
cash and it don't really matter if their principles don't win the
day, because they got the cash. No worries. Be moderate, Palin is
unqualified, massage Democrat legislation, everything is alright,
the silver spoon is still in the mouth.
Paul| 12.14.09 @ 10:33PM
Roger that, Kyle. Just wish I had a book, golf outings and/or a
silver spoon! Maybe in my next life.
JC| 12.14.09 @ 11:11PM
One official said participants at the meeting broke into applause
when Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, who switched parties
earlier in the year, said he had made his move to become the 60th
vote for health care.
Kyle Smith| 12.14.09 @ 7:16PM
As always conservative media is late to the party. They're Tweeting now that loud applause is coming out of the Democrat Party meeting room. Every conservative blog I read is MIA MIA MIA MIA. (MISSING IN ACTION). This is why we lose. I don't know where everyone is, but either stick to blogging and actually keep up with the pulse, or be a public speaker somewhere. You guys fail at doing both. Where's Michelle Malkin, Hot Air, Powerline, American Thinker (Their day ends at 2 PM I swear). The Conservative Media is slow and loses time and time again. Many start the weekend on Friday.
Yeah, at Noon it looked like Obamacare was dead. Time to do a little Christmas Shopping. Well, a handshake between Reid and Lieberman takes 2 seconds, and it sounds like it just happened.
Paul| 12.14.09 @ 7:37PM
While I don't share Kyle's vitriolic attitude towards the "conservative media", I do share his view that there is little doubt that the Democrats, after struggling mightily and absurdly to reach an "historic" compromise amongst themselves, will produce and pass a bill enshrining into law a huge power grab by the federal government over the US healthcare system. It is exactly the wrong direction for the country.
The Republicans must be faulted for failing to articulate and promote successfully an alternative vision comprising equal tax treatment for individual plans as a means of encouraging portability, reduction or elimination of mandated coverage, encouragement of high-deductible plans (so-called "catastrophic coverage", which is what I have), interstate insurance competition and , of course, government-provided coverage for people in need, howsoever one wishes to define it.
Elimination of the private healthcare insurance market for all but the wealthiest in America, as is surely coming, will result in higher taxes, increased medical costs, less choice, and lower quality for the vast majority of Americans.
And, by the way, will harm US competitiveness in the global marketplace.
Kyle Smith| 12.14.09 @ 7:50PM
Thanks Paul, I need a lecture from the smart ones to calm down now and then. Yeah, my post was so vitriolic, almost as bad as the left wing media who in less than 24 hours had a petition going around to try and get Lieberman's wife fired from her job. Of course, I wouldn't agree with doing the same to my adversary, but you gotta admit; the libs fight like dogs.
Meanwhile, we conservatives will just keep promoting our books and having freedom concerts, go on week long golf outings every quarter, and wonder why the message gets lost. There is a lot of media out there and a lot of worthless conservative noise. You can count me among them if you want, but I vow to remain vigilant for freedom. Evil doesn't take a vacation or set their watch by going to dinner.
Remember, Conservative media guys who have made it, gather up the cash and it don't really matter if their principles don't win the day, because they got the cash. No worries. Be moderate, Palin is unqualified, massage Democrat legislation, everything is alright, the silver spoon is still in the mouth.
Paul| 12.14.09 @ 10:33PM
Roger that, Kyle. Just wish I had a book, golf outings and/or a silver spoon! Maybe in my next life.
JC| 12.14.09 @ 11:11PM
One official said participants at the meeting broke into applause when Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, who switched parties earlier in the year, said he had made his move to become the 60th vote for health care.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....nsion.html
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