James Jones, President Obama’s National Security Advisor, has
agreed to be the keynote
speaker at the anti-Israel group J Street’s first annual
conference in Washington next week. While the group bills itself
as the “pro Israel” and “pro peace” alternative to the American
Israel Public Affairs Committee, in reality it is a liberal
organization actively campaigning against Israel’s right to
defend itself. As Michael Goldfarb has
noted, other speakers at the conference include Eli Pariser,
the former director of Moveon.org, and Salam Al-Marayati, who was
quoted in the New York Times in the wake of the
Sept. 11 attacks saying Israel should be considered a prime
suspect:
”If we’re going to look at suspects, we should look to the
groups that benefit the most from these kinds of incidents, and
I think we should put the state of Israel on the suspect list
because I think this diverts attention from what’s happening in
the Palestinian territories so that they can go on with their
aggression and occupation and apartheid policies.”
The announcement that Jones will speak comes as a growing number
of Democratic members of Congress have announced they would drop
out of participating in the conference, causing J Street to
blame the Weekly Standard for employing a “classic
‘swift boat’ move” by publishing actual statements made by
participants in the conference.
With each passing day, the outright contempt the Obama
administration has for Israel becomes more apparent.
Goldfarb
has more.
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Tim| 10.16.09 @ 3:46PM
people are policy.
Pete| 10.16.09 @ 3:59PM
I seem to recall the Messiah's pastor having an aversion to Jews...hmmm. Herr Rolfenfuhrer, are you attending?
Red Phillips | 10.16.09 @ 5:02PM
And since this is the United States of America this is suppose to concern us why?
S.L. Toddard| 10.17.09 @ 1:16PM
Unfortunately, there is a significant portion of our population who have an unhealthy, unpatriotic devotion to a foreign state. What's interesting is that the vast majority of them are not new transplants from, or agents of, that foreign state (though if they were, you would hardly notice any change in the tone or content of their positions on the subject), but natural born American citizens, most (though by no means all) with no ethnic or religious ties to that state whatsoever. This makes their passionate attachment to that state even more hard to understand - their attachment is an emotional, narrative-based one as opposed to one of blood or religion. Worst of all, many go so far as to put the welfare of that nation state - Israel - ahead of the welfare of their own country, and those that don't still cannot grasp that the two are separate identities, with separate, sovereign interests.
victor| 10.18.09 @ 9:48PM
Ya, you are so Reich, Herr Toddard, SS Obergruppenfuehrer, what do we need the Jews for anyway. All of that prime real estate that they are taking up in the Middle East rightfully belongs to Hamas and the Palestinian people, right?
You and all of the other Liberalterriers seem to have no use for the Jewish people or Israel.
Why is that?
You and RonPaul and your ilk are against any assistance for the Jewish people. He even voted against a non binding resolution in support of Israel defending herself against her enemies. And why would either of you be against an American President standing with the only democracy in the Middle East?
Thank God that there have been a few American Presidents that stood with Israel. Good Conservative, Patriotic Presidents.
Too bad you don't admire those men.
S.L. Toddard| 10.19.09 @ 9:45AM
"Ya, you are so Reich, Herr Toddard, SS Obergruppenfuehrer, what do we need the Jews for anyway"
Looks like someone's been reading The Book of Sharpton, and learned to play the grievance card. Nice work, Sharptonite.
"All of that prime real estate that they are taking up in the Middle East rightfully belongs to Hamas and the Palestinian people, right?"
Wrong, actually (though not surprisingly).
"You and RonPaul and your ilk are against any assistance for the Jewish people."
Assistance for the Jewish people? I'm not sure what you're talking about. There are Jewish people all over the world. Is someone proposing "assistance" for this far-flung, worldwide group?
"He even voted against a non binding resolution in support of Israel defending herself against her enemies."
Good. What interest does it serve for the United States to pledge such one-sided support? How does that enhance U.S. security?
"And why would either of you be against an American President standing with the only democracy in the Middle East?"
Because it is of no concern to the United States. Because doing so does not enhance U.S. security or further U.S. interests. Because doing so damages our national security by further inflaming the hatred against us in the Middle East, where we need oil. Because entangling alliances are anathema to our Republic.
"Thank God that there have been a few American Presidents that stood with Israel. Good Conservative, Patriotic Presidents.
Too bad you don't admire those men."
Fealty to a foreign nation is not "patriotism", unless you mean patriotic to that alien state.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:08PM
Toddard says (among other things)~
"Unfortunately, there is a significant portion of our population who have an unhealthy, unpatriotic devotion to a foreign state."
You lie when you state this, and I protest most vehemently! In this context you are referring to me, amongst others, who have a healthy, and most Patriotic devotion to Israel. They are an ally of the United States of America, they are our friends, and it is in our interest to stand up for them, and at the very least back them up as a Nation, a free democracy, to defend itself. You want to live in a Liberal fantasy where you think we can avoid the reality which is the real world with all of its evils. I believe that you are deceitful and trying to deceive others with your manner of speaking.
S.L. Toddard| 10.19.09 @ 9:37AM
"In this context you are referring to me, amongst others"
Indeed, I am. You are unpatriotic. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Our one-sided support of Israel damages our national security, yet you wish to continue that policy because you put the interests of a foreign state before your own. It's okay to be a traitor, Marge, but don't be dishonest about it.
Margie| 10.19.09 @ 1:10PM
Everyone sees you for what you are, Toddard. A liar and enemy of freedom. You are so arrogant that yu actually believe you can say someone is a traitor and unpatriotic, and because you say it it's true. You are so typical of the disgusting Left Wing in this country. Anyone who befriends you takes part in your sin.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:13PM
How about because Israel is our friend, and the only other free country in the middle east and it is in our best interest to stand up for her. Oh, and because this is the real world. But don't worry because Obama is really on your side, not Israel's.
S.L. Toddard| 10.19.09 @ 9:38AM
"How about because Israel is our friend"
Nations don't have "friends," Marge. Nations aren't grade-school kids playing at recess. Nations have interests, and ours are damaged by our one-sided support of this foreign state that commands your first loyalty.
Margie| 10.19.09 @ 1:12PM
Keep lying, Toddard, you are a disgrace!
in_awe| 10.16.09 @ 10:05PM
Understandable since it is obvious that terrorists and jihadists have been underrepresented in the American lobbyist corps. Just playing catch up - gotta find a seat at the table for them.
Hmmm. Wonder if Bill Clinton has shared any ideas with Obama about collecting campaign contributions from foreign sources...
Bill Clinton| 10.16.09 @ 10:08PM
I never told Rabin to keep building settlements.
bubba the pervert| 10.19.09 @ 8:07PM
You're not bubba, I am!
You can tell by what you wrote.
I would have said it like this, "I never had sexual relations with that man, Mr. Rabin.I never told Rabin to keep building settlements, not a single time - never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work raping, stalking and harassing as many women as I can."
megaphonies galore| 10.16.09 @ 11:25PM
Its easy to see where your bread is buttered, why dont you relocate to tel aviv where your loyalty lies and leave american policy to people who put american interests FIRST. I can see the megaphoney zionist apologists are out in force on your editorial pages to, don't you enjoy preaching to your racist choir? The only thing that is underrepresented in america is AMERICANS. I think AIPAC needs to file as a foreign lobbyists that they are so they can be eradicated like the cancer they are.
tina| 10.17.09 @ 8:22AM
You have a clear understanding of the realities, I wish more people did. Thank you for writing this.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:01PM
But you are quite foolish when you say this: "why dont you relocate to tel aviv where your loyalty lies and leave american policy to people who put american interests FIRST." Standing up for and helping Israel, an ally of the United States of America IS in the interest of the United States! You have a lot to learn if you really believe that as a country we ought to live in a cacoon within ourselves only. In the real world there are enemies, and there are friends. Friends back each other and help each other out when in need, and it serves to protect each other's freedom.
Bob | 10.16.09 @ 11:32PM
Correction: With each passing day, the outright contempt rational people throughout the world have for Israel becomes more apparent.
Tom| 10.17.09 @ 12:40AM
What is happening today isn't anti-Semitism , it is simply a realization that Israel is acting above the laws of humanity under the guise of a victim.
Not many are buying that anymore.
Print all the stories you wish.
More importantly , Palestinian People are Semites and therefore Israel is an Anti-Semitic government.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 9:53PM
You are so wrong. Why do you believe such a thing? Israel wants to live in peace, and it is terrorists who won't let them be. They defend themselves and you say it is Israel who is wrong? Why are you against the only country in the middle east that is actually a democracy? It is a shame that you think the way you do.
Morticia| 10.17.09 @ 1:02AM
Be careful, megaphonies galore, when JFK insisted that they (the name was the american zionist org. at the time) register as the foreign agents that they are, he paid for it with his life. Of course, he did also try to put a stop to their enslavement of Americans with executive order 11110. Oh, yeah, he also insisted that they stop their nuclear proliferation activities..... and some silly media believing sheep let themselves be fooled into believing "the mafia" must have done it!! The controlled opposition is not so easy to control since the advent of the "internets".
Amazing that a mag has the nerve to call itself AMERICAN Spectator when it is obviously an "israel" first propaganda tool.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:35PM
Morticia herself is an obvious propagandist tool. Axelrod Astroturfer bowling for dollars perhaps?
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 11:08PM
*correction: s/b Trolling for Dollars.
Morticia| 10.20.09 @ 2:25PM
Is there a way I can get paid for replying to "israeli" propaganda? Please, tell me how, because I could sure use the money and I spend an awful lot of time researching, reading and replying in regards the issue of baby-murdering "israel".
Anyone? How do I apply for this job Margie is referring to?
Morticia| 10.20.09 @ 2:07PM
Um, Margie..... I know the truth hurts, here's some more truth, for you, who would try to propagandize the Bible.....
Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9
Maybe you could start a blog for dueling bible verses.
You should be very careful as to how you interpret that Bible, for it can be interpreted, legitimately, as the TRUE Jews being present day Palestinians, the INDIGENOUS people of Palestine. Do you know what indigenous means????? Do you think killing the descendants of Jesus will get you into heaven?
Andrea| 10.17.09 @ 1:11AM
Well, american spectator has really shown it's true colors now.
Pathetic.
J street is not anti-israel--it is pro-peace.
Wait--is philip klein admitting that israel is incompatible with peace?
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:19PM
And I suppose you think Obama is the Messiah too, don't you?
ChiTown Patriot| 10.17.09 @ 1:14AM
Wow, it's great to see these comments. It make me have hope that people are finally waking up to the Zionist fifth column in America. "American" Spectator should rename itself to Israeli Spectator.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:37PM
And what magazine do you subscribe to? "Kill the Jews?"
DIMONA GOT KENNEDY MURDERED| 10.17.09 @ 2:52AM
when you take a good hard look at these documents, you will come to realize the reason the CIA murdered John F. Kennedy under George H.W. Bush's tutelage and guidance on November 22, 1963, had more to do with Kennedy trying to rope in Israel's NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM at DIMONA than it had to do with Kennedy penning E.O. 11110, to more or less SHUT DOWN THE FED, and take their worthless paper off the street and put U.S. currency in it's place.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/i.....index.html
Morticia| 10.20.09 @ 2:15PM
I used to believe that the nuclear question was what got JFK killed. I still believe it had a part in his murder.
However, after studying the question of the INSISTENCE, by JFK and RFK, for the zionist lobby to register as the foreign agents that they were and are, it is clear that "israel" considered JFK to be an existential threat to their existence, in fact, he was declared such by the "leaders",m for this reason, above all others.
So, while the nuclear issue was certainly a strong motivation for murder, I now believe that it was the foreign agent issue that was the stronger motivation.
And the abolishment of the FED was surely another factor, although probably not the strongest.
So, we now know that "israel" had at least three very potent motivators to do murder and murder was done. In your face, high noon, give a message murder.
Mark Strand| 10.17.09 @ 3:52AM
Are you for real with this worthless crap?
You call this journalism? Objective?
Your spin is not working anymore Mr. Klien. From what I know of J Street it's pro-Israel but not Likud, not settlements, not stealing land from your neighbors.
If all those things are what Israel is about, then Israel has no legitimacy and should be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Your blog is a joke.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:48PM
"...then Israel has no legitimacy and should be relegated to the dustbin of history."
~I don't think so. God has plans. Be careful what you wish for.
"And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem." Zech. 12:9
"And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth." Zech. 14:12.
~God loves Israel, so who am I to be against it. And who is anyone? Why fight against His will, when you can't possibly win?
Rrose| 10.17.09 @ 4:18AM
It is very encouraging to read the comments on this obvious piece of Zionist propaganda. For a more balanced report on Jones' upcoming speaking engagement see: http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....onfab.html
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:52PM
LOL! Politico. The bastion of Leftist propagandga! Go there to be lied to if you wish. Or go there to help blast at their lies point blank.
petr vojta| 10.17.09 @ 4:50AM
Exposing Israels "unique" crimes against humanity should be seen as steps to preserve World peace.
Humanity cant afford to let this "satanic regime" continue in its form.....from the moment this "state" was created, only M.East countries live in pernament state of preparednes of war and experinced many. Zionism leads to injustice and wars. This atheistic, colonial ideology is TRUTH danger to humanity. Petr Czech
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:53PM
Spoken like a true Jew hater. And liar to boot.
so| 10.17.09 @ 5:09AM
Finally American Jews - J Street speaking up for peace. Thank you.
megaphonies galore| 10.17.09 @ 7:04AM
good to see that REAL rational comments are winning out versus your zionist spoon fed propaganda! klein your days are numbered, you and the rest of the misplaced loyalty scumbags should go back to israel where you belong before the inevitable reckoning when people realize that all our wars right now (afghanistan, iraq, upcoming iran) are for an "ally" the endlessly spies on us, siphons off our "money" only to buy off our politicians and send the money right back into their coffers, while our infrastructure crumbles and the zionist leech sucks the remaining marrow out of the american skeleton.
Mark| 10.17.09 @ 7:32AM
IF, Israel wanted peace, it would FLOOD Concentration Camp GAZA with food and healthy economic activity. Did America launch massive assaults and shoot Black American Women and Children dead in the streets or use Jet Fighters and launch Artillery and Missiles into CIVILIAN areas? NO! Israel does so because Israel wants Ethnic Cleansing, NOT peace. Where is Israel's Recognition of the PALESTINIAN'S RIGHT to EXIST!? Israel demands the Palestinians "repudiate" this and that ...Does Israel REPUDIATE the TORAH???? Israel was White RACIST, APARTHEID, South Africa's ONLY ally, trading weapons, torture techniques, NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY, with them. Today Israel continues Racist APARTHEID with it's wall. Israel enforces laws that are straight out of Nazi Germany such as Palestinians must have different colored ID cards and license plates, JUST like the yellow stars the Jews WAIL about having to wear. Palestinians have to use separate roads, WORSE than Black and Whites Only drinking faucets.
Israel and South Africa were virtually twinned as military allies for Pretoria helped supply Israel militarily in the immediacy of its 1973 setback and Israel came to support apartheid South Africa at the height of sanctions with weaponry and technology – from naval ships and the conversion of supersonic fighter planes to assistance in building six nuclear bombs and the creation of a thriving arms industry. Israel resembles apartheid South Africa at its zenith – even surpassing its brutality, house demolitions, removal of communities, targeted assassinations, massacres, imprisonment and torture of its opponents and the aggression against neighbouring states.
Israel has been PRETENDING to care about African Americans, so they can STEAL the taxdollars that SHOULD have been repairing schools and infrastructure and providing police protection in the Cities. Year after year TENS of BILLIONS of Black Tax dollars buy more APARTHEID-suppression for the NATIVE PEOPLE of PALESTINE instead of improving life for the Black People who earned those dollars.
The World should insist Israel live by the standards Israel demands of others. If Israel wants to be recognized, Israel must recognize the EQUALITY and HUMANITY of ALL People. Quit calling NON-Jews SHISKA, GOYIM, GENTILE. If Israel wants Hamas to 'repudiate' their charter, Israel must REPUDIATE their manual of hate, the TORAH, which openly proclaims that all 'gentiles' should be 'Hewers of wood, and bearers of water' ........ for Israel. Israel must recognize the Native People's RIGHT to a Palestinian state.
Anti-GENTILISM is the source of "antisemitism". HUMANITY did not invent "antisemitism" and then wait thousands of years for judaism to appear, just so everybody could "hate" it for absolutely no reason. Jacob invented judaism, Moses (another "gem" of humanity) codified anti-GENTILISM in his "torah". Then judaism practiced anti-GENTILISM, their hatred of ALL NON-jews, and the only SANE reaction of any NON-jew is self defense, which the "Tribe" calls antisemitism.
Vic Pittman| 10.17.09 @ 11:28AM
What a load of propaganda..AMERICAN SPECTATOR ?? The Israel First, America Last Magazine would be more appropriate. Got news for you Zionist racists at AS ......we are not as stupid as you would like to think. Move to Israel...get out of our country.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:55PM
"get out of our country." ~You first. I think I'll stay. I love this country, and Israel is our friend, not our enemy.
Morticia| 10.20.09 @ 2:00PM
"israel" a friend to the US?
ahem.
Just ask the SURVIVORS of the USS Liberty about that.
S.L. Toddard| 10.17.09 @ 1:03PM
The great Daniel Larison says:
Philip Klein complained that National Security Advisor Jim Jones (Gen., U.S. Army-Ret.) was going to speak at an “anti-Israel conference.” I thought that sounded odd, so I read on and found that he will be addressing J Street. J Street, Klein informs us, is “a liberal organization actively campaigning against Israel’s right to defend itself.” The second part of this is absolutely false, and it is one of the most tired tropes in the book. The first part is less debatable, since it is largely true that the place where you are most likely to find anything like a remotely sane view of Israel-Palestine, among other Near Eastern matters, is among American liberals and progressives. If J Street is overwhelmingly liberal, this is a result of how ideologically committed most Americans have become to dead-end, counterproductive and harmful policies that work against the long-term interests of Israel. These policies also work against U.S. interests in the region and the world to the extent that our government is tied to the enabling of the policies. I don’t think these policies are the source of most of our troubles in the Near East, and I don’t think those troubles would end even if these policies were changed for the better, but the perception and reality that our government tacitly permits them are aggravating factors that make things harder for the U.S. around the region than they need to be.
There is one reliable thing about the label “anti-Israel” when it is used to refer to other Americans in debate: the people being so described are almost guaranteed to believe that Israel has a right to defend itself, a right to exist and, more often than not, a right to constitute itself as an officially Jewish state. In other words, they accept all of the basic assumptions that every “pro-Israel” person accepts. For what it’s worth, I don’t really disagree with any of those propositions, either, but that won’t keep me from being labeled “anti-Israel.” What makes J Street “anti-Israel” in Klein’s view is that they believe that the Israeli government cannot simply do whatever it pleases to its neighbors and to the people under its occupation benevolent protection, and they might even suggest that continuing to violate every agreement Israel has ever made on settlements is not necessarily ideal. If one is ideologically driven to define support for Israel in such a self-defeating way, anything outside those exceedingly narrow boundaries has to be counted as “anti-Israel.”
This is what I find so irritating about these labels: they are used deliberately to avoid discussing the merits of the respective policy views, because there is clearly a fear among hawks that their policy preferences cannot withstand scrutiny and have to be pushed through debate with this sort of browbeating. Klein could reasonably argue that he thinks J Street’s recommendations are misguided, wrong and bad for the U.S. and Israel, and I assume he thinks this, but he isn’t satisfied unless he has completely delegitimized and insultewd his opposition by saying that they are “anti-Israel” as such.
On the other side, J Street et al. make plain that they regard the recommendations of Israel hawks to be disastrous, but to the best of my knowledge they refrain from accusing their opponents of being “anti-Israel.” They do challenge the idea that hawks have some monopoly on real support for Israel, and they point out how damaging to Israeli security their preferred policies have proved to be, but even when they do this they take for granted that hawks believe themselves to be working in the best interests of America and Israel. The issue, of course, is whether they actually are working in the best interests of both countries, but even if they are mistaken their positions cannot be written off as inherently “anti-Israel.” Likewise, those who advance aggressive and hawkish policies for the U.S. are not therefore “anti-American” despite the very real damage their policies have done to the United States. They are in error, but they are not opposed to the existence and security of their country. Of course, it seems to be in the nature of being a hawk that the same respect must never be extended to the other side.
*****
More here:
http://www.amconmag.com/lariso.....nd-anti-2/
yasser arafart| 10.17.09 @ 10:16PM
A lot of Jew-Haters posting here on the Spectator site.
J-Street is a brand new Soros-bankrolled anti-Israel group.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 11:06PM
I call them the *Axelrod Astro-turfers trolling for dollars.
*Credit where credit is due; originally coined by Daisy.
Intellektual| 10.18.09 @ 1:11AM
Justice always wins out in the end. So enjoy your finely-tuned propaganda machine while you still can Israelis, it's the only thing propping you up in the minds of many ill-informed Americans. This is the beginning of the end.
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 10:57PM
Really? Haven't you read the word of God?
""And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem." Zech. 12:9
"And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth." Zech. 14:12.
~God loves Israel, so who am I to be against it. And who is anyone? Why fight against His will, when you can't possibly win?
Sam Bolivar| 10.18.09 @ 5:02AM
I welcome ANY Zionist to discuss with me why you support the Apartheid - practicing, brutal, racist rogue state AKA "Israel". Is it merely because you feel obligated to do so? Is it some feeling of wishing to enact revenge on people you consider your enemies?? If so, you are mistaken, because your obligations as a fellow member of the human race are more important than some sense of mis-directed loyalty to some parochial faith system. Any belief system with even an semblance of humanity in it would roundly condemn what "Israel" (and the U.S.) are doing to the Palestinians. And any alleged nation state which is as disliked & despised around the world as Israel is will not likely survive for very long. Unless the good Israelis out there (and there are surely many) make their leaders change, and we good Americans force our leaders to change, the TRUE 'Axis of Evil' (from Washington, D.C. - London - Tel Aviv) will get sucked into its own moral and financial black hole ... which would, at least as things are proceeding now, be for the betterment of mankind.
Comments are welcome. I will respond in a respectful manner, irregardless of the tone of your correspondence (excepting threats, of course). I will try to check out this site again, but the surest way of getting a response is contacting me at the email address below. Thank you.
Please remember the words of "Mahatma" (Great Soul) Gandhi:
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS."
For peace and justice,
Sam Bolivar
StrivingForJustice@yahoo.com
Margie| 10.18.09 @ 11:00PM
I like what God (Thee Great Soul Himself) says about Israel: "And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem." Zech. 12:9
"And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth." Zech. 14:12.
~God loves Israel, so who am I to be against it. And who is anyone? Why fight against His will, when you can't possibly win?
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