A sportswriter for the Washington Posthas turned out to be one more liberal who loves to judge
others by race. This morning this was apparent in a
Michael Wilbon column on Rush Limbaugh.
Let's leave aside that when it comes to putting up examples
of Rush's supposed racism, Wilbon says "I don't listen to his
show" and "I'm not going to try and give specific examples of
things he has said over the years; I screwed up already doing
that, repeating a quote attributed to Limbaugh (about slavery)
that he has told me he simply did not say and does not reflect
his feelings. I take him at his word."
So we have established, according to Mr. Wilbon himself,
that he doesn't listen to Rush, and has "screwed up" attributing
racial remarks to him that Rush never said. A promising
start.
Alas, not for long.
Wilbon than instantly goes off the track by referring to
President Obama not as the president of the United States, which,
the last time I checked, he was. No, he said this;
"But Limbaugh has long history of the same insults and race
baiting, to the point of declaring he hoped the president of the
United States, a black man, fails."
So. That's it. Those of us who view Barack Obama as (a) the
President of the United States, and (b) a thorough-going
left-winger whose policies are off-the-charts damaging to the
country….. are race baiting? So when blacks wanted Nixon to fail
they were race baiting? Got it. When they hated Hoover they were
race baiting? When they voted for Jimmy Carter, who got to the
White House after getting elected governor by courting every
thorough-going white racist vermin in the state of Georgia, they
were…what?
Apparently Mr. Wilbon is an enthusiastic supporter of
Justice Clarence Thomas but just forgot to write a column
trashing all those liberals who went after Thomas because of his
race. Oops.
The hard fact and deeply unattractive fact seems to be that
the race-baiter here is Mr. Wilbon. He is incapable of viewing
the President, by his own admission, as The President. But
as such, Barack Obama is the same in every way as the other 43
from Washington through Bush. Except to Wilbon. No, Wilbon's
focus is on race. The President isn't president in Wilbon's eyes,
he's the black manwho is president. And the rest of us who want to treat this
president the same way we treated all the others (on a scale,
that covers everything from fainting in a swoon to hurling
buckets of invective, the usual approach of Americans to their
chief executives) are told that we have to judge Mr. Obama
differently because of his skin color.
Mr. Wilbon is put forth to Postreaders as a professional. A journalist. A sportswriter. He
is also a black man. So what? Is that how Mr. Wilbon wants to be
judged? As "Michael Wilbon, black sportswriter." rather than
"Michael Wilbon, sportswriter"??
His approach to Rush Limbaugh in the end has nothing to do
with Rush, who is, as those of us who do listen to his show are
well familiar, a believer in a colorblind society. He makes fun
of -- quite deservedly -- those like Wilbon who pretend to this
when in fact they insist on judging people by skin color, by
race.
Mr. Wilbon clearly lives his life on what some refer to as
the liberal intellectual plantation.
It's time...way past time in American life...for Wilbon and
others to cut the chains and walk off. And the next time they see
the President of the United States...understand that he is that.
Just that. And only that.
I'd like to see that gassbag Wilbon debate Stephen A. Smith on
the subject...high comedy.
Oldefarte| 10.16.09 @ 11:18AM
Wilbon is a typical liberal that believes in SAY/DO AS I 'SAY',
NOT AS I 'DO'----in other words, he's a HYPOCRITE!!!!
Liberal Reader| 10.16.09 @ 11:30AM
Mr Lord,
Wilbon's column is not very well argued, and I hear your side of
this story.
Conservatives would have every right to fear that ANY criticism
of Obama would be viewed as "racism": such an environment would
be extremely toxic and bad for this country.
And there ARE fools who don't like Rush, generating foolish
criticisms of him.
However, Rush's critics don't entirely exonerate him. You know
that's not how it works.
Let's remember, too: the NFL made a BUSINESS decision.
No one is infringing on Limbaugh's rights. It wasn't an act of
Congress that made this decision; it was a group of BUSINESS MEN
concerned about their bottom line.
At least Limbaugh can be grateful he's not a sick person being
deleted from a health insurance company's roles for business
reasons.
Sick of it| 10.16.09 @ 12:25PM
The NFL made the decision based on the lies generated against
Limbaugh.
JP| 10.16.09 @ 1:15PM
"Let's remember, too: the NFL made a BUSINESS decision."
Actually, the NFL made no decision. It was the group of investors
headed by Mr. Checkits that dropped Rush. And it probably wasn't
a business decision. Rumors abound that none other than George
Soros wants to replace Rush. If this is indeed the case, Limbaugh
has a very good case for Libel.
Rush has no intentions of following the litigation route; he is
already a very wealthy man. But if he wanted to litigate for the
sport of it, he could tie the entire deal up in court for years,
and possibly extract millions in lost revenues from a whole host
of racebaiters.
Jeffrey Lord| 10.16.09 @ 3:24PM
LR...
If someone made up a bunch of phony "LR Quotes"...and as a result
you lost out on something you wanted to do, an opportunity
resulting from someone who came to you..that's important, they
came to you...and than the whole thing blows up and you are made
to look like a...let's pick racist out of the blue...because of
these made up quotes, I suspect you, LR, would not be happy. As a
matter of fact, if you found out who exactly made up the
quotes...and who was circulating them in the American media and
refused to retract and apologize...I even bet you, LR, would have
one thought: Sue.
And LR, my sparring partner, you would be right to think that
thought.
The fact here is that Rush is being punished for being a
conservative. That's it. (Maybe a little jealousy, too. After
all, all these commentators nipping at his ankles aren't making
money like Rush, doubtless cause for resentment.)
Liberal Reader| 10.16.09 @ 5:13PM
Mr Lord,
Limbaugh's free to sue, of course. It sounds to me like there was
ONE quote circulating -- something about slavery -- that Limbaugh
did not say.
This is not the basis of my claim that Limbaugh engages in race
baiting.
Saying a black quarter back is being touted by the media ONLY
because he's black is a kind of -- mild -- race baiting.
The central activity of race baiting is always to propound the
notion that the REAL victims of oppression or racism are powerful
white males.
And here we have the results: the chortling millionaire from the
radio is the TRUE victim of the racists in the Obama
administration who cojoled the racists in the investment
community to reject his bid to buy a football team!
The truth is that the NFL -- like any business -- just doesn't
want controversey. They don't want people talking about Rush
Limbaugh on Sunday afternoons; they want them watching football
(and the sponsors' commercials).
Sounds like well-oiled capitalism at work to me.
Coco32| 10.16.09 @ 11:37AM
I do not believe you read the same article by Mr. Wilbon as I
did. He was not, AT ALL, judging Mr. Limbaugh by his color, but
by the statments that he has made on his radio show. You do not
have to listen to every show to know what Mr. Limbaugh has said.
ALL of America heard his comments about Donovan McNabb. He has a
history of making incendiary comments about race - especially
blacks. In fact, at the end of Mr. Wilbon's article, he says that
he wonders what would have happend had Mr. Limbaugh become part
owner of the team - would his views and ideas of black have been
changed? You must admit that Mr. Limbaugh has made insensitive
and downright racists comments about blacks. The current
president is a black man, so it would seem that one could induce
that his views include our current president. Thus, one could
also deduce that part of the reason Mr. Limbaugh wants the
current President to fail is because of his race.
We are all entitled to our opinions, however, the opinions in
this article are not at all based in fact.
tonypal| 10.16.09 @ 12:23PM
With respect to Donovan McNabb, you really need to want to hear
racism in order to believe that was a racial attack on McNabb. It
was an attack on the political correctness of the liberal sports
media. Plain and simple.
As for his wish that Obama fails, it has nothing to do with his
race. It has to do with his politics and the fact that Limbaugh,
like any sensible American, does not want the implementation of
Obama's radical, socialist agenda.
The problem is that there are people out there, liberal blacks
and liberal whites alike, who claim to want all people to be
treated the same but don't truly believe it. For example, Rush
and other prominent conservatives hammered Bill Clinton endlessly
over his policies, many of which were similar to Obama's. Correct
me if I'm wrong, but Clinton's a white guy. Now he goes after a
black president, as people have gone after all presidents
throughout time and we are to believe it's racism.
So what's it gonna be? Do we hold Obama to the same standard as
others, or does he get special treatment?
Liberal Reader| 10.16.09 @ 11:39AM
Limbaugh has without question engaged in race baiting. ONLY the
most conservative fans of Limbaugh would deny this.
However, Wilbon's point seems too close to arguing that criticism
of the president is racism. That I cannot agree with.
Calling Obama a "racist" is pretty hateful, race-bating stuff,
and Limbaugh is an expert user of the dog whistle.
tonypal| 10.16.09 @ 12:25PM
You know, I've heard many people use this term "race baiting" and
have seen you employ it quite a bit recently. So I'm curious;
would you please explain what you mean by race baiting.
JP| 10.16.09 @ 1:17PM
"Limbaugh has without question engaged in race baiting. ONLY the
most conservative fans of Limbaugh would deny this. "
Prove it. Supply exact quotes -and by quotes not second had
sources from blogs or news articles. Supply quotes from public
transcripts.
Lauria Grant| 10.17.09 @ 5:44PM
Can you name one example where Mr Limbaugh has engaged in race
baiting. But be careful, you have to establish your case
unequivocally. You can't use Limbaugh's calling Mr Obama a racist
as an example if he (Limbaugh) gives valid reasons for making the
statement. Therefore, my friend, you have to consider the premise
(Obama is a racist) and the reasons before you can establish your
case.
The problem with discourse in this country is that logic has a
hard time prevailing.
Cpm| 10.16.09 @ 11:58AM
Nice projection, guys, that's some fantasy world you liberals
live in.
Vanilla64| 10.16.09 @ 12:24PM
Coco32:
Sir, I hate to disagree with you, but, please. Do you know the
quote Limbaugh had about Donovan McNabb. Really? Here it is.
"I think the media is very desirous that a black quarterback do
well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks
doing well. I think there is a little hope invested in McNabb and
he gets a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he
really didn't deserve."
Now, Coco32, I don't know about you, but when I read that, I see
a man commenting on the media here in the U.S. more so than a man
commenting on the talents of McNabb.
The challenges we face on race today are exacerbated because we
cannot discuss them in any context without being accused of
racism. It has become a sad state of affairs.
If you would like to discuss some facts which would get me
accused of racism, we could start with the toxic culture in black
America, leading to tragic percentages of broken homes, high
school dropouts, incarceration rates, out of wedlock births, on
and on. Of course, we can't discuss any of this 'cause then I'd
be racist.
Flee| 10.16.09 @ 4:01PM
You hit the nail on the head. Rush was pointing out the hypocracy
of the sports media wanting McNabb to succeed more so than other
QBs based on his race. Wilbon is a part of that sports media that
supported the charade. McNabb simple wanted to succeed as a QB
and I don't think he was ever overtly campaigned for special
treatment (he was a #2 overall choice after all). Success was to
be expected from him and his brethren in the media pushed for him
to be allowed a long time to get there. A number of other QBs
from the same period have come and gone from the scene and McNabb
is still there. Did he get and deserve kid-glove treatment? I
don't think he deserved it but his supporters in the media
certainly wanted him to get his fair share of chances. Rush was
simply pointing it out and it hit too close to home with the
media and they had him forced out.
Interested Conservative| 10.16.09 @ 1:41PM
"Benign neglect"
Andrew B| 10.16.09 @ 3:03PM
OK, just so I am clear on this, a question of our liberal
friends. I want President Obama's healthcare initiative to fail.
I likewise wanted President Clinton's healthcare initiative to
fail. If one is a racist for wishing failure on one, what is the
explanation for wishing failure on the other?
steponbugs| 10.16.09 @ 3:50PM
Andrew, come on, of course you're a racist...our first black
president WAS William Jefferson Clinton, remember...?
MikeN| 10.16.09 @ 7:24PM
Vanilla, that's not what Rush said at all. Where did you get that
quote from?
It's a little sad that Michael Wilbon and Jason Whitlock took the
positions that they did. They generally go against the race
hustling line.
Whitlock left ESPN, and said that Scoop Jackson(the ESPN
columnist) 'bojangles.'
Bill Simmons was a voice of reason when the Donovan McNabb
comments first came out, actually understanding what Rush said,
and debunking that instead of the straw man in liberals' mind. He
pointed out that Steve McNair hasn't been getting media hype. Now
Simmons acts like Rush's comments were a big deal.
Craig| 10.16.09 @ 8:51PM
Limbaugh hasn't even entered the NFL and already he's caused a
big race riot between Democrats and Republicans which is exactly
why he shouldn't be involved in Football. Given his racist
remarks in the past, as a mixed person who is half Black, I am
extremely uncomfortable with him in the game. The only person who
won't acknowledge Limbaugh's racism, are racists and likely
republicans. End of story! Keep the man out of football. I am not
interested in a race war because he's making anti-Black slurs and
giving the game 1940s era feel. Football has no place for racism.
Done!
C-DOG| 10.17.09 @ 1:21AM
Craig, if you had any idea how many countless hours like minded
liberal hacks have spent combing over every syllable rush has
uttered (we’re talking 3 hrs a day, 5 days a week for over twenty
yrs ) and they haven’t found ANYTHING. I guarantee, if they did,
you would have seen it on the front page, lead story, in BOLD
TYPE on your favorite liberal rag! But you didn’t, did you? You
can’t beat Rush intellectually so have to keep spreading the
racist lies, kind of pathetic.
Paul| 10.17.09 @ 2:13PM
It seems to me that all the negative vibes this blowhard (Rush
Hudson Limbaugh A.KA. Jeff Christie) has been spewing over these
many years has come back to blow back on his face (A classic
“Blow Back”). He always tries to give off the airs that he can
have anything he wants but as we all witness those with more
money and more influence tossed him aside like sack of potatoes
and the ultimate insult was that it was done in public (money
don’t buy you everything butterball).
Now of course he blames everyone else (Michael J. Fox, Perez
Hilton, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Sonia
Sotomayor, Hillary Clinton, Olympia Snowe, ESPN, NFL, the media,
basically people of color, the handicapped, women and gays) when
of course all you have to do is listen to his show and plainly
hear his daily prejudices filled sermons. So NFL, I salute you
decision, job well done. And to the whaling cry baby perched on
his self made pedestal, quit your whining it was your own fault.
Don’t we all feel better?
Chris| 10.17.09 @ 2:28PM
Paul you are living in your own personal reality that has nothing
to do with true reality. Someday we will have some justice...
Chris| 10.17.09 @ 2:26PM
Its the obliviousness of people like Wilbon who will ensure that
racism will live on for some time to come. He can't fathom
color-blindness, how could he work toward it? Sad...
Paul| 10.17.09 @ 3:26PM
He is reaping what he has sowed. Karma, "plain and simple" (like
his followers).
ELK| 10.17.09 @ 7:08PM
This is a terrific intellectual debate.
Liberals say Rush is known to be a race baiter.
Conservatives say: Prove it.
Liberals say Rush is well known for his racist statements.
Conservatives say: where are they?
Liberals say we don't listen to Rush so we can't find them, but
we know he is racist because we just know.
There are instances where liberals have actually listened to
Rush, and they changed their opinion. Rush calls this "The
Raspberry Effect", for the column in 1993 where William Raspberry
apologized to Rush after actually listening to his program.
For intellectual honesty, are there any liberals willing to
actually listen to Rush and conduct The Raspberry Experiment?
Montana| 10.18.09 @ 8:53PM
Rush Limbaugh: Transcript of radio broadcast from Oct. 14,
2008
By Keith Vance
TRANSCRIPT OF RUSH LIMBAUGH ON HIS RADIO SHOW FROM OCT. 14, 2008
Editor’s note: This is a verbatim transcript of Limbaugh
explaining how ACORN, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and Jeremiah
Wright are all involved in a radical leftwing conspiracy to teach
black kids to hate America.
From the time of my birth 57 years ago to today, this country has
grown and expanded, prosperity has opened its doors for more and
more people around the world, not just people born in this
country.
We know the stories of asians immigrating and running rings
around people born in this country academically in California. We
know all about the immigration, legal and illegal, to get into
the country. We know that the standard of living has risen. We
know that technological advancement is going along at light
speed.
And yet, during this period of time, whether it be the last 57
years, or the last 20 years, it seems that the majority of the
black population has remained angry, frustrated and behind –
they’ve been left behind. They’re acting like they’ve been left
behind, and of course we’ve heard that this is because of racism,
natural systemic institutional racism in America. We’re unfair.
That this country is just horrible and rotten.
Do you ever ask yourself how it is that people not even born here
can come here and in a few short years begin prospering in
school, they’re own business, and yet people who are born in this
country somehow have been raised to hate it – to still think
they’re back in the days of slavery.
I actually think, after studying all this ACORN stuff, and
reading what Stanley Kurtz has written about this, I actually
believe that what has taken place here, in addition to liberal
Democrat legislation – such as the great society and the war on
poverty, which a lot of people would now acknowledge really
busted up the black family by the government taking the place of
a husband and father – he’s free to roam around and bear no
responsibility. The mother remained the mother, she got the
financial assistance from this legislation from the federal
government. The federal government became the father. The father
didn’t have to hang around in order for the kids to be OK –
depending on how you define OK.
And as you study more and more of this ACORN stuff you find that
it has been part of an entire movement that has been going for
two maybe three decades right under our noses. We thought that it
was just liberal welfare policies and all that that kept blacks
from progressing while other minorities grew and prospered but
no. It is these wackos from Bill Ayers to Jeremiah Wright to
other anti-american afro-centric black liberation theologists,
working with ACORN, and Barack Obama is smack dab in the middle
of it. They have been training young black kids to hate hate hate
this country. And they trained their parents before that to hate
hate hate this country. It was a movement. It was a Bill Ayers
anti-capitalist anti-american educational movement. ACORN is how
it was implemented right under our noses.
They’re doing far more folks than just cheating when it comes to
elections and registration. They’re in deep in this mortgage
crisis. ACORN and Obama, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, the
Democrat Party have their fingerprints the sub-prime mortgage
crisis. The whole concept of affordable housing was people who
can’t afford a mortgage are going to get one, because America is
unfair.
It has been a movement. It has been a religion. And Obama and
Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers were all up to their big ears
in it.
ELK| 10.18.09 @ 9:55PM
I DO NOT TRUST POSTS LIKE THIS.
PLEASE GIVE WEB CITATIONS AS TO THE SOURCE!
Paul| 10.23.09 @ 1:45PM
Was the $20K fine enough? Maybe when Taitz becomes a real lawyer
she will appreciate what just happened. I wonder if she is a mail
order bride, just like her law degree? She is perfect reporter
material for “Fake News”, where unfounded rumors and innuendo
reign supreme , unlike a our US courts of law, where you need to
present documented facts, not half baked lies (prepare for more
failures). When flies get too close to the lights they get
burned, Taitz just got burned, thing is, like a fly she will
continue, no end in sight. Poor little Birthers they are haters
not debaters.
A lawyer, dentist, realtor and black belt, wow I must say a JACK
of all trades master of none.
The NFL decides who becomes an owner not the other way around.
All this blowhard (Rush Hudson Limbaugh A.KA. Jeff Christie) has
to offer is his money and his opinions, (which in my opinion are
on the fringes of racism, one mans opinion). There are many more
groups biding for the Rams, not just his group. Lets face it
there are more men with money (Marshall Faulk) that will gladly
fill the slot and the Rams will win or lose depending on how well
they work as a team and not on whether or not Rush is an owner.
As for Vick, well he is a player (he has talent not like you,
Rush or I, unless you are a NFL player?) and he served his time
and the NFL decided we live in the land of second chances, so why
not (I personally don’t like it but, oh well). Life has never
been fair (NEWS FLASH!)
Now as to the “Free Speech” argument, I guess many of you like
myself heard Rush on Thursday “Almost in tears”, priceless. But
the last couple of days he now is in his normal ranting and will
continue until someone surpasses him, “Free Speech” continues, so
what is being stifled, it simply is not true, of course, you may
not have a radio, so you might want to get one.
PS – I am sure someone is working to put the tapes together maybe
all you subscribers can help, since you are all about getting to
the truth?
PPS- Beauty Pageant Judge - Now I understand why he lost the
weight, to find a new wife, creepy.
Bob Mebane| 10.25.09 @ 6:24PM
Wilbon gets more annoying every year, he not only doesnt know
what he is talking about he also has a chip on his shoulder about
race. I dont know who nauseates me more, him or Colman McCarthy.
Pete| 10.16.09 @ 11:12AM
I'd like to see that gassbag Wilbon debate Stephen A. Smith on the subject...high comedy.
Oldefarte| 10.16.09 @ 11:18AM
Wilbon is a typical liberal that believes in SAY/DO AS I 'SAY', NOT AS I 'DO'----in other words, he's a HYPOCRITE!!!!
Liberal Reader| 10.16.09 @ 11:30AM
Mr Lord,
Wilbon's column is not very well argued, and I hear your side of this story.
Conservatives would have every right to fear that ANY criticism of Obama would be viewed as "racism": such an environment would be extremely toxic and bad for this country.
And there ARE fools who don't like Rush, generating foolish criticisms of him.
However, Rush's critics don't entirely exonerate him. You know that's not how it works.
Let's remember, too: the NFL made a BUSINESS decision.
No one is infringing on Limbaugh's rights. It wasn't an act of Congress that made this decision; it was a group of BUSINESS MEN concerned about their bottom line.
At least Limbaugh can be grateful he's not a sick person being deleted from a health insurance company's roles for business reasons.
Sick of it| 10.16.09 @ 12:25PM
The NFL made the decision based on the lies generated against Limbaugh.
JP| 10.16.09 @ 1:15PM
"Let's remember, too: the NFL made a BUSINESS decision."
Actually, the NFL made no decision. It was the group of investors headed by Mr. Checkits that dropped Rush. And it probably wasn't a business decision. Rumors abound that none other than George Soros wants to replace Rush. If this is indeed the case, Limbaugh has a very good case for Libel.
Rush has no intentions of following the litigation route; he is already a very wealthy man. But if he wanted to litigate for the sport of it, he could tie the entire deal up in court for years, and possibly extract millions in lost revenues from a whole host of racebaiters.
Jeffrey Lord| 10.16.09 @ 3:24PM
LR...
If someone made up a bunch of phony "LR Quotes"...and as a result you lost out on something you wanted to do, an opportunity resulting from someone who came to you..that's important, they came to you...and than the whole thing blows up and you are made to look like a...let's pick racist out of the blue...because of these made up quotes, I suspect you, LR, would not be happy. As a matter of fact, if you found out who exactly made up the quotes...and who was circulating them in the American media and refused to retract and apologize...I even bet you, LR, would have one thought: Sue.
And LR, my sparring partner, you would be right to think that thought.
The fact here is that Rush is being punished for being a conservative. That's it. (Maybe a little jealousy, too. After all, all these commentators nipping at his ankles aren't making money like Rush, doubtless cause for resentment.)
Liberal Reader| 10.16.09 @ 5:13PM
Mr Lord,
Limbaugh's free to sue, of course. It sounds to me like there was ONE quote circulating -- something about slavery -- that Limbaugh did not say.
This is not the basis of my claim that Limbaugh engages in race baiting.
Saying a black quarter back is being touted by the media ONLY because he's black is a kind of -- mild -- race baiting.
The central activity of race baiting is always to propound the notion that the REAL victims of oppression or racism are powerful white males.
And here we have the results: the chortling millionaire from the radio is the TRUE victim of the racists in the Obama administration who cojoled the racists in the investment community to reject his bid to buy a football team!
The truth is that the NFL -- like any business -- just doesn't want controversey. They don't want people talking about Rush Limbaugh on Sunday afternoons; they want them watching football (and the sponsors' commercials).
Sounds like well-oiled capitalism at work to me.
Coco32| 10.16.09 @ 11:37AM
I do not believe you read the same article by Mr. Wilbon as I did. He was not, AT ALL, judging Mr. Limbaugh by his color, but by the statments that he has made on his radio show. You do not have to listen to every show to know what Mr. Limbaugh has said. ALL of America heard his comments about Donovan McNabb. He has a history of making incendiary comments about race - especially blacks. In fact, at the end of Mr. Wilbon's article, he says that he wonders what would have happend had Mr. Limbaugh become part owner of the team - would his views and ideas of black have been changed? You must admit that Mr. Limbaugh has made insensitive and downright racists comments about blacks. The current president is a black man, so it would seem that one could induce that his views include our current president. Thus, one could also deduce that part of the reason Mr. Limbaugh wants the current President to fail is because of his race.
We are all entitled to our opinions, however, the opinions in this article are not at all based in fact.
tonypal| 10.16.09 @ 12:23PM
With respect to Donovan McNabb, you really need to want to hear racism in order to believe that was a racial attack on McNabb. It was an attack on the political correctness of the liberal sports media. Plain and simple.
As for his wish that Obama fails, it has nothing to do with his race. It has to do with his politics and the fact that Limbaugh, like any sensible American, does not want the implementation of Obama's radical, socialist agenda.
The problem is that there are people out there, liberal blacks and liberal whites alike, who claim to want all people to be treated the same but don't truly believe it. For example, Rush and other prominent conservatives hammered Bill Clinton endlessly over his policies, many of which were similar to Obama's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Clinton's a white guy. Now he goes after a black president, as people have gone after all presidents throughout time and we are to believe it's racism.
So what's it gonna be? Do we hold Obama to the same standard as others, or does he get special treatment?
Liberal Reader| 10.16.09 @ 11:39AM
Limbaugh has without question engaged in race baiting. ONLY the most conservative fans of Limbaugh would deny this.
However, Wilbon's point seems too close to arguing that criticism of the president is racism. That I cannot agree with.
Calling Obama a "racist" is pretty hateful, race-bating stuff, and Limbaugh is an expert user of the dog whistle.
tonypal| 10.16.09 @ 12:25PM
You know, I've heard many people use this term "race baiting" and have seen you employ it quite a bit recently. So I'm curious; would you please explain what you mean by race baiting.
JP| 10.16.09 @ 1:17PM
"Limbaugh has without question engaged in race baiting. ONLY the most conservative fans of Limbaugh would deny this. "
Prove it. Supply exact quotes -and by quotes not second had sources from blogs or news articles. Supply quotes from public transcripts.
Lauria Grant| 10.17.09 @ 5:44PM
Can you name one example where Mr Limbaugh has engaged in race baiting. But be careful, you have to establish your case unequivocally. You can't use Limbaugh's calling Mr Obama a racist as an example if he (Limbaugh) gives valid reasons for making the statement. Therefore, my friend, you have to consider the premise (Obama is a racist) and the reasons before you can establish your case.
The problem with discourse in this country is that logic has a hard time prevailing.
Cpm| 10.16.09 @ 11:58AM
Nice projection, guys, that's some fantasy world you liberals live in.
Vanilla64| 10.16.09 @ 12:24PM
Coco32:
Sir, I hate to disagree with you, but, please. Do you know the quote Limbaugh had about Donovan McNabb. Really? Here it is.
"I think the media is very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there is a little hope invested in McNabb and he gets a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve."
Now, Coco32, I don't know about you, but when I read that, I see a man commenting on the media here in the U.S. more so than a man commenting on the talents of McNabb.
The challenges we face on race today are exacerbated because we cannot discuss them in any context without being accused of racism. It has become a sad state of affairs.
If you would like to discuss some facts which would get me accused of racism, we could start with the toxic culture in black America, leading to tragic percentages of broken homes, high school dropouts, incarceration rates, out of wedlock births, on and on. Of course, we can't discuss any of this 'cause then I'd be racist.
Flee| 10.16.09 @ 4:01PM
You hit the nail on the head. Rush was pointing out the hypocracy of the sports media wanting McNabb to succeed more so than other QBs based on his race. Wilbon is a part of that sports media that supported the charade. McNabb simple wanted to succeed as a QB and I don't think he was ever overtly campaigned for special treatment (he was a #2 overall choice after all). Success was to be expected from him and his brethren in the media pushed for him to be allowed a long time to get there. A number of other QBs from the same period have come and gone from the scene and McNabb is still there. Did he get and deserve kid-glove treatment? I don't think he deserved it but his supporters in the media certainly wanted him to get his fair share of chances. Rush was simply pointing it out and it hit too close to home with the media and they had him forced out.
Interested Conservative| 10.16.09 @ 1:41PM
"Benign neglect"
Andrew B| 10.16.09 @ 3:03PM
OK, just so I am clear on this, a question of our liberal friends. I want President Obama's healthcare initiative to fail. I likewise wanted President Clinton's healthcare initiative to fail. If one is a racist for wishing failure on one, what is the explanation for wishing failure on the other?
steponbugs| 10.16.09 @ 3:50PM
Andrew, come on, of course you're a racist...our first black president WAS William Jefferson Clinton, remember...?
MikeN| 10.16.09 @ 7:24PM
Vanilla, that's not what Rush said at all. Where did you get that quote from?
It's a little sad that Michael Wilbon and Jason Whitlock took the positions that they did. They generally go against the race hustling line.
Whitlock left ESPN, and said that Scoop Jackson(the ESPN columnist) 'bojangles.'
Bill Simmons was a voice of reason when the Donovan McNabb comments first came out, actually understanding what Rush said, and debunking that instead of the straw man in liberals' mind. He pointed out that Steve McNair hasn't been getting media hype. Now Simmons acts like Rush's comments were a big deal.
Craig| 10.16.09 @ 8:51PM
Limbaugh hasn't even entered the NFL and already he's caused a big race riot between Democrats and Republicans which is exactly why he shouldn't be involved in Football. Given his racist remarks in the past, as a mixed person who is half Black, I am extremely uncomfortable with him in the game. The only person who won't acknowledge Limbaugh's racism, are racists and likely republicans. End of story! Keep the man out of football. I am not interested in a race war because he's making anti-Black slurs and giving the game 1940s era feel. Football has no place for racism. Done!
C-DOG| 10.17.09 @ 1:21AM
Craig, if you had any idea how many countless hours like minded liberal hacks have spent combing over every syllable rush has uttered (we’re talking 3 hrs a day, 5 days a week for over twenty yrs ) and they haven’t found ANYTHING. I guarantee, if they did, you would have seen it on the front page, lead story, in BOLD TYPE on your favorite liberal rag! But you didn’t, did you? You can’t beat Rush intellectually so have to keep spreading the racist lies, kind of pathetic.
Paul| 10.17.09 @ 2:13PM
It seems to me that all the negative vibes this blowhard (Rush Hudson Limbaugh A.KA. Jeff Christie) has been spewing over these many years has come back to blow back on his face (A classic “Blow Back”). He always tries to give off the airs that he can have anything he wants but as we all witness those with more money and more influence tossed him aside like sack of potatoes and the ultimate insult was that it was done in public (money don’t buy you everything butterball).
Now of course he blames everyone else (Michael J. Fox, Perez Hilton, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Sonia Sotomayor, Hillary Clinton, Olympia Snowe, ESPN, NFL, the media, basically people of color, the handicapped, women and gays) when of course all you have to do is listen to his show and plainly hear his daily prejudices filled sermons. So NFL, I salute you decision, job well done. And to the whaling cry baby perched on his self made pedestal, quit your whining it was your own fault. Don’t we all feel better?
Chris| 10.17.09 @ 2:28PM
Paul you are living in your own personal reality that has nothing to do with true reality. Someday we will have some justice...
Chris| 10.17.09 @ 2:26PM
Its the obliviousness of people like Wilbon who will ensure that racism will live on for some time to come. He can't fathom color-blindness, how could he work toward it? Sad...
Paul| 10.17.09 @ 3:26PM
He is reaping what he has sowed. Karma, "plain and simple" (like his followers).
ELK| 10.17.09 @ 7:08PM
This is a terrific intellectual debate.
Liberals say Rush is known to be a race baiter.
Conservatives say: Prove it.
Liberals say Rush is well known for his racist statements.
Conservatives say: where are they?
Liberals say we don't listen to Rush so we can't find them, but we know he is racist because we just know.
There are instances where liberals have actually listened to Rush, and they changed their opinion. Rush calls this "The Raspberry Effect", for the column in 1993 where William Raspberry apologized to Rush after actually listening to his program.
For intellectual honesty, are there any liberals willing to actually listen to Rush and conduct The Raspberry Experiment?
Montana| 10.18.09 @ 8:53PM
Rush Limbaugh: Transcript of radio broadcast from Oct. 14, 2008
By Keith Vance
TRANSCRIPT OF RUSH LIMBAUGH ON HIS RADIO SHOW FROM OCT. 14, 2008
Editor’s note: This is a verbatim transcript of Limbaugh explaining how ACORN, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright are all involved in a radical leftwing conspiracy to teach black kids to hate America.
From the time of my birth 57 years ago to today, this country has grown and expanded, prosperity has opened its doors for more and more people around the world, not just people born in this country.
We know the stories of asians immigrating and running rings around people born in this country academically in California. We know all about the immigration, legal and illegal, to get into the country. We know that the standard of living has risen. We know that technological advancement is going along at light speed.
And yet, during this period of time, whether it be the last 57 years, or the last 20 years, it seems that the majority of the black population has remained angry, frustrated and behind – they’ve been left behind. They’re acting like they’ve been left behind, and of course we’ve heard that this is because of racism, natural systemic institutional racism in America. We’re unfair. That this country is just horrible and rotten.
Do you ever ask yourself how it is that people not even born here can come here and in a few short years begin prospering in school, they’re own business, and yet people who are born in this country somehow have been raised to hate it – to still think they’re back in the days of slavery.
I actually think, after studying all this ACORN stuff, and reading what Stanley Kurtz has written about this, I actually believe that what has taken place here, in addition to liberal Democrat legislation – such as the great society and the war on poverty, which a lot of people would now acknowledge really busted up the black family by the government taking the place of a husband and father – he’s free to roam around and bear no responsibility. The mother remained the mother, she got the financial assistance from this legislation from the federal government. The federal government became the father. The father didn’t have to hang around in order for the kids to be OK – depending on how you define OK.
And as you study more and more of this ACORN stuff you find that it has been part of an entire movement that has been going for two maybe three decades right under our noses. We thought that it was just liberal welfare policies and all that that kept blacks from progressing while other minorities grew and prospered but no. It is these wackos from Bill Ayers to Jeremiah Wright to other anti-american afro-centric black liberation theologists, working with ACORN, and Barack Obama is smack dab in the middle of it. They have been training young black kids to hate hate hate this country. And they trained their parents before that to hate hate hate this country. It was a movement. It was a Bill Ayers anti-capitalist anti-american educational movement. ACORN is how it was implemented right under our noses.
They’re doing far more folks than just cheating when it comes to elections and registration. They’re in deep in this mortgage crisis. ACORN and Obama, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, the Democrat Party have their fingerprints the sub-prime mortgage crisis. The whole concept of affordable housing was people who can’t afford a mortgage are going to get one, because America is unfair.
It has been a movement. It has been a religion. And Obama and Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers were all up to their big ears in it.
ELK| 10.18.09 @ 9:55PM
I DO NOT TRUST POSTS LIKE THIS.
PLEASE GIVE WEB CITATIONS AS TO THE SOURCE!
Paul| 10.23.09 @ 1:45PM
Was the $20K fine enough? Maybe when Taitz becomes a real lawyer she will appreciate what just happened. I wonder if she is a mail order bride, just like her law degree? She is perfect reporter material for “Fake News”, where unfounded rumors and innuendo reign supreme , unlike a our US courts of law, where you need to present documented facts, not half baked lies (prepare for more failures). When flies get too close to the lights they get burned, Taitz just got burned, thing is, like a fly she will continue, no end in sight. Poor little Birthers they are haters not debaters.
A lawyer, dentist, realtor and black belt, wow I must say a JACK of all trades master of none.
The NFL decides who becomes an owner not the other way around.
All this blowhard (Rush Hudson Limbaugh A.KA. Jeff Christie) has to offer is his money and his opinions, (which in my opinion are on the fringes of racism, one mans opinion). There are many more groups biding for the Rams, not just his group. Lets face it there are more men with money (Marshall Faulk) that will gladly fill the slot and the Rams will win or lose depending on how well they work as a team and not on whether or not Rush is an owner.
As for Vick, well he is a player (he has talent not like you, Rush or I, unless you are a NFL player?) and he served his time and the NFL decided we live in the land of second chances, so why not (I personally don’t like it but, oh well). Life has never been fair (NEWS FLASH!)
Now as to the “Free Speech” argument, I guess many of you like myself heard Rush on Thursday “Almost in tears”, priceless. But the last couple of days he now is in his normal ranting and will continue until someone surpasses him, “Free Speech” continues, so what is being stifled, it simply is not true, of course, you may not have a radio, so you might want to get one.
http://www.chasingevil.org/200.....words.html
PS – I am sure someone is working to put the tapes together maybe all you subscribers can help, since you are all about getting to the truth?
PPS- Beauty Pageant Judge - Now I understand why he lost the weight, to find a new wife, creepy.
Bob Mebane| 10.25.09 @ 6:24PM
Wilbon gets more annoying every year, he not only doesnt know what he is talking about he also has a chip on his shoulder about race. I dont know who nauseates me more, him or Colman McCarthy.