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An attorney for Sarah Palin has delivered a letter threatening legal action against an anti-Palin blogger who was the source of a divorce rumor that the attorney for the former Alaska governor called “categorically false.”
Publication of the letter at a Web site that repeated the rumor has uncovered circumstantial evidence that the anti-Palin blogger “Gryphen” is a kindergarten teacher at an Anchorage elementary school.
Saturday, the rumor that Todd and Sarah Palin were divorcing created an online uproar. CNN stringer/anti-Palin blogger Dennis Zaki published a thinly-sourced “news” item asserting that “multiple sources” had confirmed the rumor first published by “Gryphen” at his Immoral Majority blog.
Zaki obtained a copy of a letter from Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein, ordering “Gryphen” to retract the allegations — calling them “complete fabrications, false and defamatory” — or face legal action. The Van Flein letter, published by Zaki with the name of the recipient blacked out, ended with this sentence:
“If you do not have an attorney, please let me know if you want to be served with the summons and complaint at the kindergarten where you assist or at your residence.” (Emphasis added.)
By publishing the letter, Zaki inadvertantly provided valuable information to an anonymous tipster who compiled online research indicating the identity of “Gryphen,” whose Immoral Minority blog received more than 170,000 visits in July. Blogger Dan Riehl received the same information.
The tipster also forwarded examples of the Immoral Minority blog’s attacks on Palin, where “Gryphen” used vulgar obscene language in reference to Mrs. Palin, including the so-called “Trig Truther” suggestion that the governor was not actually the mother of her fifth child:
“Wherever Trig came from he has proved to be a very valuable asset to Sarah Palin indeed. But just where did Trig Palin come from? As of today, as of this minute, and after over a month of searching I cannot tell you. I simply do not know for certain. I do know however where he did not come from. He did not issue forth from Sarah Palin. He may have been conceived inside her house (The jury is still out on that one), but he was not conceived in her uterus. On that one fact I have absolutely no doubt.”
— June 6, 2009
I am currently awaiting confirmation from Alaska sources of the tipster’s circumstantial identification of “Gryphen,” who has been inadvertantly put in career jeopardy by his friend Zaki’s publication of the Van Flein letter.
Media in Alaska will not be able to ignore the news that the state’s most notorious anti-Palin blogger is a kindergarten teacher at public school. Having spent part of my early career as a newspaper reporter covering the education beat, I can predict that “Gryphen” will soon at the center of a maelstrom of controversy.
UPDATE 9:21 p.m.: Dan Riehl, who has even better sources in Alaska than I do, reports that we are now “gold” on the tipster’s identification of “Gryphen” as Jesse Griffin, a part-time teaching assistant at Trailside Elementary School in Anchorage. At his Immoral Minority blog, Griffin now confirms the basics (without using his real name), saying he has “every confidence that I will be vindicated.”
Huffington Post reports on the controversy, and the blogosphere is beginning to fan the flames. Good luck with that vindication, Mr. Griffin. Im sure the taxpayers of Anchorage won’t mind you calling Mrs. Palin all those ugly names — “trailer trash Barbie” being a relatively mild example.
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Aaron| 8.2.09 @ 9:14PM
Maybe the teacher will bring the fat crayons to the court to past time with.
Liberal Reader| 8.2.09 @ 9:23PM
Because Sarah Palin is a public figure, she would have to prove "malicious intent," something that is nearly impossible to do.
All the blogger would have to do is say, "I read it on the internet and passed it along," (which in fact is what he's saying), and the lawsuit would fail.
Don't be fooled by this stuff. I'm not saying anything here to Mrs Palin's lawyers don't know.
I'm not saying he didn't have a malicious intent. But because of the way the law gives wide latitude to citizens to criticize and -- yes -- even verbally attack public figures (free speech and all), it's virtually impossible to prove intent.
Roy Hogue| 8.2.09 @ 9:33PM
Take him to court for all he's worth! There's a limit to what anyone should put up with.
Pingback| 8.2.09 @ 9:39PM
UPDATED: Palin Smear Blogger Exposed? « The Rhetorican links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Michael Lang| 8.2.09 @ 9:47PM
Bankrupting the little bastard through lawyer fees will be poetic justice.
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Palins Threaten Legal Action On Divorce Smear links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Badman| 8.2.09 @ 9:57PM
Actually, with evidence of prior actions that can be admissable in court, Malicious Intent can be proven.
Griffin just signed his own "blogging" death certificate.
Stogie | 8.2.09 @ 10:09PM
AT LAST! Some judicial payback to these hateful smear artists! Sue their ASSES OFF!
By the way, the date in the article of June 6, 2000 appears to be a typo. Did you mean 2008 or 2009?
Truth to Power | 8.2.09 @ 10:17PM
What a pity. Outed by a liberal stooge pretending to be a journalist. Given legal advice by one of our local trolls who is also a liberal stooge. I hope he doesn't get kicked out of his parent's basement as a result of these ethical lapses. It is hard to make it anywhere on a part time teaching assistant's salary. Maybe the Liberal Reader could give some advice on how to placate Mom and Dad.
Smitty| 8.2.09 @ 10:22PM
Hunt these liberal b@stards down and sue the hell out of them. Make them sorry they were ever born.
It's the only way you can deal with fascist liberal scum like Obama and his disgusting Chicago thugs, or the democrat party in general. They're all the same.
Johnno| 8.2.09 @ 10:23PM
Unleash the hounds! Go get 'em, Sarah.
deanbailey| 8.2.09 @ 10:25PM
"the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail,that will to be rightful must be reasonable;that the majority possess their equal rights,which equal law must protect,and to violate would be oppression" Jefferson's first inaugural address,1801.
Pingback| 8.2.09 @ 10:33PM
Guy who reported lies about Palin “divorce” hides behind children « Sister Toldjah links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Bailey| 8.2.09 @ 10:34PM
Sarah, you know how to hunt moose, so I'm sure it won't be hard to hunt down liberal clowns. Liberals are a lot more stupid than moose--meaner, too.
Bronco| 8.2.09 @ 10:37PM
Thomas Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
deanbailey| 8.2.09 @ 10:46PM
"I am willing to die for my country,but I am not willing to kill for it"
Truth to Power| 8.2.09 @ 10:50PM
Then do it already, moron, and leave us alone.
C4P| 8.2.09 @ 11:08PM
Is that Alaskan blogger the big fat girl who wears glasses? Figures--female envy is ugly, much like that Alaskan blogger.
Marie| 8.2.09 @ 11:14PM
All these delusional people with an obsession for Sarah Palin ought to be studied in every psychology department around the world. I truly believe many of them are psychotic. The fact that this Jesse person works with children should have his employment at the school reviewed.
The only thing that this ensures is the success of Sarah Palin. I believe when her book comes out she will top the number one chart in a split second. I for one will buy several copies for my family.
Vanessa| 8.2.09 @ 11:35PM
No, it's that guy who is the part-time kindergarten teacher. Loser lib--a grown man who teaches kindergarten part-time.
I wouldn't want him around my 5 year old child. Yuk!
Missy| 8.2.09 @ 11:37PM
Liberalism is a mental illness, so it shouldn't surprise us that many liberals are mentally ill/unstable. Makes perfect sense to me.
Timothy| 8.2.09 @ 11:39PM
Palin is now a PRIVATE citizen (so is her husband). The bloggers can't hide under the "public figure" BS anymore.
Lock and load Sarah!!!
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The “OUTING” of Sarah Palin Hate Blogger Jesse Griffin? | FullosseousFlap's Dental Bl links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Palin’s Divorce Rumormonger Identified | Caffeinated Thoughts links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
AbleGoodman| 8.2.09 @ 11:46PM
RE: Liberal reader:
You write as if you don't realize that the first and most important unspoken rule in court is: "the judge can do whatever s/he pleases." Sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance!
polar99| 8.2.09 @ 11:47PM
Cannot wait to see these liberal idiots in court! No doubt she'll sue to expose the corrupt media.
AbleGoodman| 8.2.09 @ 11:51PM
RE: Liberal Reader: If you don't believe me, compare the truth of Hepburn v. Griswold 75 U.S. (8 Wallace) 606 (Feb 7, 1870) with the revisionist-history lies of Legal Tender Cases (Knox v. Lee, Parker v. Davis), 79 U.S. (12 Wallace) 457 (1870) and Juilliard v. Greenman, 110 U.S. 421 (1884), and get wannabe-clever little self an education in how courts work! You can read the cases at Justia.com or Findlaw.com.
polar99| 8.2.09 @ 11:57PM
These liberal idiots have absolutely no clue what's about to happen! This can be directly linked to CNN (Dennis Zaki) and other major networks. All about the lying media.
Sister Wolf | 8.3.09 @ 12:11AM
You people are morons. This man is exercising his freedom of speech....the constitutional right that Mrs. Palin is always thanking our troops for defending.
Sister Wolf | 8.3.09 @ 12:12AM
You people are morons. This man is exercising his freedom of speech....the constitutional right that Mrs. Palin is always thanking our troops for defending.
polar99| 8.3.09 @ 12:19AM
Will see Sister Wolf!
blueinredstate| 8.3.09 @ 12:19AM
I just stumbled into a nest of vipers. Thank the gods for freedom of speech, which by the way,is a liberal made right. union made. the south lost.get over it haters.
frank| 8.3.09 @ 12:21AM
It's amazing the standard of proof required to print garbage about a liberal - practically a confession or a denial by that liberal. There simply is NO standard of proof to print garbage about Republicans (or in Sarah's case bless her, a conservative) and usually no repercussion. Dan Rather practically throws an election with garbage everyone now knows to be nonsense, CBS runs with and defends it for quite a while, and the media only deigns to look when the blogosphere proves it a pack of lies. Then, time to move on. Funny how it's still "waterboarding", the misnomer for a smear, but there's no "60 minuting".
Pingback| 8.3.09 @ 12:21AM
UPDATE Sarah Palin getting a Divorce? —– Nope. « Nathancossey's Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Blunto| 8.3.09 @ 12:22AM
Bet Obama/Axelrod/Rahm are behind this sick attack on Sarah. What better way to distract from Obama's many failures as president?
Failure of his stimulus plan to help the economy, his 10+% and rising unemployment, the disastrous ObamaCare in disarray, democrats fighting each other in public, his race baiting behavior at his presser, 45 czars in his shadow government, ACORN investigations, IG scandals---Good Lord--what a mess Obama's presidency is!!
He's a piece of human garbage from the mean streets of Chicago, and this ugliness is the Chicago way.
Obama's a disgrace to the presidency, and has no business being there. He's so far in over his head it's scary. Corrupt b@stard.
polar99| 8.3.09 @ 12:22AM
Good luck blueinredstate!
philly| 8.3.09 @ 12:25AM
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/search/label/pornograghy
Check out Gryphen's opinions on pornography on his Immoral Minority website. Is this someone who should be in charge of Kindergarten children?
Bailey| 8.3.09 @ 12:26AM
Sister Wolf was so pleased with her idiocy, she posted it twice. Thank you, Miss moron.
Pingback| 8.3.09 @ 12:27AM
Palin family threatens legal action on weekend divorce smear | Fire Andrea Mitchell! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
frank| 8.3.09 @ 12:27AM
"Thank the gods for freedom of speech, which by the way,is a liberal made right. union made. the south lost.get over it haters."
Yes, James Madison and the founding fathers were real "liberals". Read a book - there were no Socialists or Marxists among them, only Burkean Liberals which is entirely different. They would be spinning in their graves if they knew what today's liberals are doing. By the way - freedom of speech predates the Civil War and the South consisted of Democrats fighting for slavery against Republican president Abraham Lincoln. But you probably won't learn any of this when you get to high school. Back to Huffington Post - where you're doubtless one of the "smart ones".
greg| 8.3.09 @ 12:29AM
We may start to see the whole anti-Palin blogger, ethics complaint filer, smear, and lie operation unravel.
Jean Devon (Mudflats, and former Team Sarah troll) has been fighting a losing battle to keep the video "Ethicsgate" off the net. She was successful for a few days, but now even YouTube has it back up, and numerous blogs are posting it.
This video documents the close working relationship between the bloggers, ethics complainers, and the Alaska Dem Party.
Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyrP8qQlpU
Once one or more of these idiots are hauled into court, they'll crack like the rotten eggs that they are, and they'll blow the whistle on Axelrod and his cronies.
Linda Biegel (Celtic Diva) is scrambling over this video, trying to cover her fat ass.
Nobama| 8.3.09 @ 12:31AM
blueidiotinredstate--our Right to Freedom of Speech came from GOD. Not from other people.
I just wish I had the right not to have to look at the stupidity of liberal blogs.
Johnno| 8.3.09 @ 12:35AM
Yeah, that big fat girl is Linda Biegel. 'Celtic Diva' makes me want to throw up in my mouth. What a lardo--you just know she's so jealous of the beautiful fox, Sarah.
polar99| 8.3.09 @ 12:36AM
Very good greg -cannot agree more!
deanbailey| 8.3.09 @ 12:42AM
I mis-quoted jefferson in my 10:29 blog.It should read, " the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail,that will to be rightful must be resonable;that the MINORITY possess their equal rights,which equal law must protect,and to violate would be oppression"T.Jefferson 1801
Missy| 8.3.09 @ 12:42AM
I hope this ugliness blows up in the liberals' faces. No one deserves it more.
Blunto| 8.3.09 @ 12:43AM
You're nuts, bailey--and irrelevant. Good Night.
blueinredstate| 8.3.09 @ 12:59AM
Not everyone had freedom of speech before the civil war. some were held in bondage.
democratsarefascists| 8.3.09 @ 1:02AM
Has anyone confirmed the rumor about why this Griffin guy HAD to move to Alaska?
Blue907| 8.3.09 @ 1:39AM
Free speech is just that. R's quit your damn whining. Where were you when people at Palin rallies were yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" whenever Palin talked about Obama? Get passed the partisanship of political banter. Go home, read the constitution, and then think about what free speech means.
Missy| 8.3.09 @ 1:39AM
binredstate, it doesn't matter. Our rights come from GOD--not man. That's why liberals are wrong to deny the right to life (the first right) to babies in the womb and slave owners were wrong to deny freedom to the slaves.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come from God.
Richard Baker| 8.3.09 @ 1:42AM
Sister Wolf:
I suggest that you look up the legal definition of libel and slander in West's. Next time, try to have your ducks in a row before you err in print. Reduces embarrassment, don't you know.
Smitty| 8.3.09 @ 1:42AM
907--stop lying. Your lies were disproven and never happened. You have no right to lie even if you're a liberal. Moron.
Fionnagh| 8.3.09 @ 1:44AM
Sister Wolf - following your comments, there should be no backlash at all when those L.A. posters depicting Obama as the Joker hit every large and small town from coast to coast. And if I put a small-sized poster on my bumper, my vehicle won't get keyed, right? Because, after all, I'd only be exercising my right of free speech.
Why do I feel you would not defend my right to do this as vigorously as you have defended the (moronic) TA?
acmetech| 8.3.09 @ 1:45AM
If the legitimacy of a legal case depended on how mean and nasty the blogger was, conservatives would be going to jail every day. Just look at your own comments. The hate that comes out here is ten times hotter than most liberal blogs.
Whatever makes you feel better, right? Keep it up.
Fionnagh| 8.3.09 @ 1:46AM
Blue907, that's an outright falsehood, putting it politely. The Secret Service DENIED that any such remarks were made. Check your facts before posting, please. It's so very wearisome having to correct (deliberate?) misinformation.
Missy| 8.3.09 @ 1:48AM
Fionnagh, I just googled that poster! Damn, that's a ripper. I want a huge one!!
Fionnagh| 8.3.09 @ 1:52AM
"Just look at your own comments. The hate that comes out here is ten times hotter than most liberal blogs. "
But you read the comments anyway, even though you infer you were bothered by them. Why would you have simply not gone to an ostensibly less offensive liberal web site, instead?
Blueinredstate| 8.3.09 @ 1:52AM
MISSY.Is this the same god that created the earth 6000 yrs. ago?Is this the god who loves you so much that he will burn you in hell forever? I will stick with the god of love,thank you.
Bob Brown| 8.3.09 @ 1:55AM
No one should attack Palin, right or wrong. She is obviously a quitter. She doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell to be nominated President.
Flower Power| 8.3.09 @ 1:57AM
acmetech, typical liberal projection--trying to blame your ugly behavior on us. Nice try, but it won't work.
You fascists started this hatred toward Palin and we're going to finish it, loser.
acmetech| 8.15.10 @ 12:58AM
"My" ugly behavior? I didn't say I was in favor of it, but was just pointing out who wins the hate-spewing contests every time. And thanks for further confirming my point with your name calling. :)
terminal| 8.3.09 @ 1:58AM
Can you say "get the kids to a private school" fast enough? Here is a grown man who labels himself "immoral" and whose website is loaded with profanity and refers to women only as b**** and he encourages violence against little kids. He is not married, and spends his days with little children or, according to his Facebook, hanging out with men at the gym. And the school district trusts him with 6 year olds? Anybody see a problem with Jessee Griffin? To the parents of Trailside Elementary School kids--watch your children around this guy.
Flower Power| 8.3.09 @ 2:00AM
acmetech--nice projection, trying to blame us for you liberals' hideous behavior toward Palin. Won't work, libtard.
You liberals started this ugliness toward Sarah and we're going to finish it.
acmetech| 10.28.09 @ 11:33PM
Hey there,
I got your comment the first time... you're so anxious to call names you just couldn't stop yourself, eh!? Btw actually, conservative ugliness started *way* before Palin and yourself took the baton.
"Projection"?! Ha, no need to dig that deeply in your comments. Your hate's right there in plain sight. You don't even feel self-conscious about it.
Missy| 8.3.09 @ 2:05AM
Yes, blue; I'm sure you're stuck to the god of love--free love. Bet you've been stuck everywhere around town and back, doll.
Hope you're proud that your name and phone number are written on mens' bathroom walls all over your state. Typical liberal; don't have the morals of an alley cat.
Blunto| 8.3.09 @ 2:07AM
This lib blogger is a pervert? I can't say I'm surprised. What the hell is he doing teaching in a public school? Kindergarten, no less! That's disgusting.
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 2:17AM
The only conceivable charge in this case could be libel. (Slander and defamation are different.)
The libel itself -- even if Palin were a private citizen (which she is not) -- would be extremely difficult to prove given the claim.
The claim "I heard a rumor that so and so is a child molester" is almost immune to the charge for anyone. For a public figure, around whom rumors swirl constantly, no judge would find. It wouldn't even make it to court. No way.
Sarah Palin, Republican nominee for Vice President of the United States, with a million dollar PAC for lawyers' fees suing a kindergarten teacher with a blog?
Yeah, right. Dream on.
By the way, 95% of you people are certifiably CRAZY.
That about does it for me.
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 2:19AM
Correction: the libel would I guess be a form of defamation.
Either way, there's just no case here.
Once your family has been on the cover of People Magazine, anyone can pretty much say anything they want about you.
Welcome to America, folks.
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 2:26AM
There are FOUR defenses this guy could use anyway, any one of which would be enough to defeat a claim of libel or defamation:
1. Claiming it as a rumor (innocent dissemination)
2. Public interest (Palin's marriage is news)
3. No actual harm
4. Palin is a public figure, which confers a certain privilege on those criticizing her.
Blunto| 8.3.09 @ 2:31AM
Yeah, but if we can trace this vicious slander campaign to your boss, LibReader/Jeremiah, you liberals are going to be in some very hot water with the American people.
Americans honor fair play and openess--bottom feeders like your boss, David Axelrod and Rahm (it through!) Emanuel will look especially ugly and nasty if they're implicated in this disgusting scandal.
Could really hurt your Obummer, too--and he doesn't need more negatives for his poll ratings right now. Obama's approvals are only in the forties and I bet they would really tank if he's shown to be involved in this Palin smear campaign. Know what I'm sayin' troll boy?
MataHarley | 8.3.09 @ 2:38AM
I do believe the visiting liberals here, with their odd concept of one-way morality, totally miss the point. Palin has now returned your Alinsky tactics en toto. Smear, and let the media and blogworld pick it up from there... truth is merely optional.
Of course the only difference here is the one who did the smearing can no longer hide behind his midnight blog screen. I'll wager he's real busy with his moderation filter right about now...
We conservatives have learned well... let's see how Jesse enjoys some of his own mean spirit returned. I suspect the squealing and whining will commence as quickly as it did for Shannon whatever-her-name-is. Sarah , formerly a "target", is now free to return fire. Now let's see how well those sniping at will do when they have no cover.
Smitty| 8.3.09 @ 2:46AM
Love your handle and your attitude, MataHarley!!
Go get 'em, Sarah!! We've got your back, baby girl.
Clifton B | 8.3.09 @ 3:20AM
"Media in Alaska will not be able to ignore the news that the state's most notorious anti-Palin blogger is a kindergarten teacher at public school. Having spent part of my early career as a newspaper reporter covering the education beat, I can predict that "Gryphen" will soon at the center of a maelstrom of controversy."
You betcha, and here is the ironic thing. Any parents looking to get Gryphen fired, need only follow the blueprint he and his buddies used against Palin.
RRH| 8.3.09 @ 4:29AM
Some commenters here, including "Liberal Reader" seem to disregard a pertinent part of our libel law regarding public figures: Malice.
If the blogger can be shown to have acted "maliciously" towards the Palins -- and I think that would be a slamdunk -- then he is stripped bare of many of the legal protections for his words.
Once malice is established, the standard is then whether he published the rumor knowing of its falsity, or with "reckless disregard" for its truthfulness. Again, the facts would seem to support a finding of at least "reckless disregard".
In other words, when this guy hires and talks to a lawyer, he's going to learn some very scary things.
Art J| 8.3.09 @ 4:54AM
IT seems that many of you...people here are doing exactly what you critisize Gryphen for doing. You have called him a bastard, do you personally know the status of his parents marriage when he was born? You have called him hateful, do you know this to be true or is this conjecture? The point is, we all engage in similar behavior so why is Sarah Palin off limits, apparently President Obama isn't off limit's so why should she be?
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Moanday Morning News « The Confluence links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
RRH| 8.3.09 @ 5:21AM
LOL. I promise I had not looked at this guy's blog before I commented, above at 4:29 AM, that his free speech protections may be limited if he is found to have acted "maliciously", and that a lawyer would be telling him that very soon. I just looked at the guy's blog and under the very first post is this disclaimer:
I am posting this because I find it humorous.
Not because I am malicious.
I am just saying.
frankAgain| 8.3.09 @ 5:21AM
You guys forget - this will be mentioned on Fox news 2x and then forgotten. CNN, MSNBC/Comedy Central/Air America, CBS, etc. won't mention it at all unless a suit is thrown out of court and then it will be a big story. Remember the guy - his dad was a Democrat politician or operative - who hacked into Palin's email account and tried to publish embarrasing stuff about her? No, and when the media ignores this story no one will remember this creep, perv teacher or the Alaskan Witches Coven either.
kevin| 8.3.09 @ 5:25AM
this thread seems to be majorily 'republican'.....palin is just a milf, old news, let's all f*cking forget about her and her normally dysfunctional family......RON PAUL! :)
Willey| 8.3.09 @ 5:41AM
This story will be huge because the Palins are going to pursue the vicious little pervert and see who is funding these lies and false allegations. Maybe we'll be able to net an Axelrod or another stinky democrat bigwig.
Let's see how the libs like it when one their own is trashed in the news. 'Bout time.
Palin for President!| 8.3.09 @ 5:43AM
Because he's being malicious, Art. Maybe you're malicious, too--but I'm not.
CL| 8.3.09 @ 6:33AM
this kind of garbage makes me sick. have people become so hateful, so ugly, that they are unable to function without such anger and vitiole?
if gov. palin is the lightweight that so many believe she is, then why the pathological need to utterly destroy her and her family.
personally, there are many public figures that i just"don't get", yet, i would never, even under a psuedonym, try to destroy their lives. it's beyond my comprehension.
David| 8.3.09 @ 6:35AM
Why everyone is so upset?, who cares if Palin divorces of not. That is her and her husband's business. No one is defined by his/her marriage Divorce its not so bad if the relationship is not working. If divorce is shameful, then half of America's adults that have divorced at least once they should be hiding in shame. This is not liberal or conservative issue , it is a private matter in her family . Folks stay out of it , is no ones business. As to Sarah Palin, politically she is history. She may well have chosen that by herself. Calm down take a deep breath, there are many more important issues on the table. Yes , I am liberal, I don't hunt, and I respect and admire President Obama. I also repect all those who voted agaist him. This is democracy folks , get educated, its not too late.
Sandra | 8.3.09 @ 6:45AM
WOW!..these libs are REALLY afraid of her.
This putz allowed himself to be outed and now there might be a legal action.
One question:...just how does anyone say these things about an innocent child...and get away with it. The libs are spinning themselves into mud...and good...we will be a better country without their vile, putrid hatred.
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Moe Lane » So, about that Palin libel suit… links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
4rc| 8.3.09 @ 7:14AM
These stories wouldn't have legs if it wasn't for the media involvement. They should sue any media who report on it
4rcane| 8.3.09 @ 7:15AM
bit sad, that a kidergarden assistant is so malicious
thebumpkin| 8.3.09 @ 7:18AM
IMHO this guy is an idiot. If my child were under his care I would be screaming for him to be fired. It isn't just about the false info about Sarah. If he enjoys using profanity & has a low opinion of women he should NOT be teaching. I am highly suspicious of anyone that brags about hanging out with men at the gym. Maybe it is all me, but I personally enjoy the women much much more. Face it folks. The liberal media will do their very best to ignore this. Is it any wonder that the liberal rags around the country are going under? The only reason I would have to buy our local liberal rag is if B.J's ran out of toilet paper. I am not sure about the liberal tv media. I do not watch tv at all. Conservatives would do well to withdraw from supporting any liberal media form. We can contact advertisers to let tem know that we d not purchase products that support media that goes against what we believe in. We can't change their personal bias, but we can change a lot of the trashing of conservatives if we stick together & use te vote of the wallet.
GenLowe| 8.3.09 @ 7:22AM
Liberal Reader: You are so wrong. As a journalist who has been sued for libel, here's the deal. Malice destroys all defenses. Jurys hate the media. Jurors will hate a public school teacher who makes up lies, posts them anonymously on the Internet. Remember the teenaged girl who killed herself after a malicious anonymous post. This woman will lose everything she owns if she is so stupid as to go to court. My advice. Get on your knees baby, confess all, out the Alaska liar network. Maybe Sarah will let you keep your house.
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So, about that Palin libel suit… - Moe_Lane’s blog - RedState links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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tommyd| 8.3.09 @ 8:11AM
This moron will be out of a job by end of business today.
Parents will be going ballistic when the see the kind of trash he is blogging and this scum is teaching their children??/
Wake up America, this is what the libs have worked so hard to bring to the classroom.
Nothing but hate and they are passing this on to your kids each and every day.
DISGUSTED| 8.3.09 @ 8:13AM
to dave in ohio -----------
since you are obsessed with sucking,,,,,,,,,,,,
this is for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ConservativeWanderer | 8.3.09 @ 8:19AM
My, my, don't the lefty trolls get excited when their smear tactics backfire?
Richard| 8.3.09 @ 8:22AM
I enjoy reading the comments as much as the article ... (not a US citizen) ... I guess I can be a little more objective on the politics in that I've always liked how Mrs. SP framed her arguements , kinda raw and easy to understand. She's pretty much right wing (for my taste) but in the scheme of things everything works, right! On the divorce thing (with celebrities) I only believe it when Dr. Phil gets involved !!!
dave| 8.3.09 @ 8:24AM
As a Canadian watching this whole Sarah Palin story develope right from the early days after she entered the election, please allow me to comment.
Mrs. Palin has been beat up by low life morons for no other reason than she is a woman. Her family has been dragged through the mud like no other that i can recall. She is a mother and is proud of her family, like any family there may be skeletons in the closet,who cares stick to the facts.If you brain dead bloggers choose to write about Sarah that is one thing but at least be truthful. BUT LEAVE HER CHILDREN ALONE. You people claim to live in the greatest country in the world, start acting like world class citizens.I would love to see the the family history of some of you, who seems to have nothing better to do than point out everyone's faults.I bet if this were a man who had children by five women none of whom he was married to, the whole story would get a mere one line mention.Go getem Sarah and then rest of you please find something more uplifting and wholesome to write about, instead of trash talk.
Just my humble opinion.
Make Do Style | 8.3.09 @ 8:29AM
Gosh how incredible to go this far. Surely it is something to ignore rather than fuel. It is a shame that the very country trying to hold up the premise of democracy wastes time and effort trying to litigate over trivia. Brittney suffers much worse but has the grace to rise above it - if you are in the public eye it goes with the territory. Surely the most Christian thing to do is to turn the other cheek and forgive. The way most of you talk is an affront to the English language and to the idea of humility, intelligence and love for mankind. The blogger who wrote it at worst was being boastful and trying to increase traffic to his site, which is silly and pointless but somewhere in between he may have thought he was telling the truth. Either way fanning and fuelling this story is a mistake and Mrs Palin needs to show fortitude and a stiff upper lip. After all the Queen has had much more to contend with regarding rumours and she has the sense and good grace to take the corgis for a walk and let those who enjoy nothing more than tittle tattle be.
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So, about that Palin libel suit… | Social Debate: Barack and American Politics links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Multiple Sources are Like Magic! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Joe Bee| 8.3.09 @ 9:01AM
Say it ain't so, Joe! Bless her pageantricious soul. I hope the former Governor will continue to keep a vigilant eye on Russia after the divorce.
Jeff Barea | 8.3.09 @ 9:01AM
There's an old expression. Sh*t or get off the toilet.
If this was actionable, it would be getting litigated right now.
Sorry libs/fake cons but Palin has no case.
End of Story.
It's her own fault for getting mixed up with Scientologists and listening to their advice.
matt| 8.3.09 @ 9:11AM
sarah palin is getting just what she deserves. maybe obama should sue the morons from the conservative side over the whole birth certificate scam. you hypocritical archaic neo-conservatives who decrie sarah is not getting a fair shake, should look in the miroor. sara lies every time the tramp opens her mouth. trig is, as we all know, her daughters first child, sad as it may be. who is the father of this child?
Grzmlyk| 8.3.09 @ 9:21AM
Wow - put the word "Palin" into an article and the trolls come out like cockroaches when the lights go out. Hmmmm. Wonder why.
Liberal Reader, your pose as an intellectual reminds me of a toddler who slips his little footsies into his mommy's high heels and attempts to walk around, imagining as best as his as-yet-undeveloped brain can fathom what it must be like to be a real grown-up.
My advice is get back into your own baby shoes. You think you impress people, but all you do is reveal a stunningly callow sensibility that someday perhaps you will recognize (but I doubt it). My only hope is that you become a "beneficiary" of the health care bureaucracy you believe is a gift from god. No need to make a will, either - Big Brother will sort all of that out, in His Great Beneficence.
Shouldn't you be in summer school or mowing lawns or flipping burgers to make some date money right about now?
The libs simply cannot function without someone to hate (but WE'RE the haters, eh?). For eight glorious years, it was Bush and Cheney who got libs' lederhosen in a knot, and now that the Bushies have exited the world stage, the angry, insensate mob has trained its sights on Sarah Palin. And her crime would be . . . . . . .
Guess what morons? The more you fear and loathe her, the more support she gets from people who recognize decency and clarity when they see it. The more you push, the more we will push back.
Count on it. In the meantime, why don't you empty your bank accounts and send the proceeds to your messiah - you know, be as generous with YOUR money as you are with mine.
matt| 8.3.09 @ 9:28AM
the words decency and " bush and cheney" should never be on the same page of any article or comment. the hypocrisy of you crazy conservatives thinking u can shovel as much chit to the people and we will continiuosly drink you tainted kool-aid. those days are over . get over it. you guys are done screwing up our beloved country with your christian beliefs. it is time for the intelintia to rule the country, not the morons from alaska or texas. sara gets what she puts out...oops her daughter is the one that puts out.. sara doesnt. therfore the divorce.
WendyG| 8.3.09 @ 9:29AM
Just as the creep who hacked her email was prosecuted, so will be this creep. Ha!
tonypal| 8.3.09 @ 9:31AM
Matt:
Pull up your pants, say goodbye to mommy and get to work.
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Palin-hating nutjob is…a kindergarten teacher in Anchorage » Cold Fury links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
matt| 8.3.09 @ 9:34AM
tonypal? that the best you got? typical repukes response. brainless and thoughtless. lets go after the boys who got us into an illegal war and outed our undercover operatives. oh wait those are your heroes...er zeroes.
Grnbstrd| 8.3.09 @ 9:35AM
Running for her lawyers every time something comes up makes her look weak and vulnerable, which she is. Celebrities and politicians get smeared all the time, she’s the only one acting like a baby over it (well, her and Fred Savage). Palin is a flake, she got out of the kitchen because she couldn’t take the heat. Middle America needs to find another poster girl.
no_typin_randy| 8.3.09 @ 9:39AM
You write as if you don't realize that the first and most important unspoken rule in court is: "the judge can do whatever s/he pleases." Sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance!
You are indeed correct Mr Ablegoodman.
Republican judges can convict people of crimes they are not guilty of, they can falsify the court records and not suffer the consequences, and they can knowingly and willfully violate people's constitutional Rights, which they do.
I am speaking from experience.
This is the America the Republican Party wants!
Grzmlyk| 8.3.09 @ 9:39AM
Hey Matt: Let me guess. You are a product of our impressive public school system. You exhibit a sterling intellect. No, really.
Think you could spell "cat" if we spotted you the "c" and the "t"?
Besides, why are you up so early? Your welfare check doesn't arrive until this afternoon, does it?
offrope| 8.3.09 @ 9:39AM
Doesn't matter if the lawsuit wins or not - the important thing is to drag these morons through the courts, forcing them to spend their money defending themselves. Kind of like they did to Palin with the 19 lawsuits that were ALL dismissed.
Mike| 11.24.09 @ 1:41AM
Very interesting discussion, i think there are great arguments for both sides. We're always hungry for more truth, i guess in the end the important thing is to respect each other. Great food for though to read all this, can't wait to see how this ends. Mike at pasta recipes.
Conservative opposed to Palin| 8.3.09 @ 9:42AM
You Palin freaks need to grow up. Any time someone says something bad against poor little Sarah they should be killed. She is a public figure. No way a libel suit will stick against the blogger.
And furthermore, Palin is a dimwit that will lead our party into ruin. A total intellectual lightweight.
Jim B | 8.3.09 @ 9:42AM
A note to all the Leftists posting here that claims that you are repeating a rumor, or "I heard" such and such, or any variations thereof are NOT defenses against a defamation/libel claim.
There's a thing called "the reasonable reliance upon facts" which each and every one who repeats these lies has failed to reach.
In order to be able to repeat third-party statements you must be able to reasonably rely on the information they provided which usually involves at least some level of due diligence on their part, i.e., calling Palin's people to ask if they can confirm or deny, checking out the facts of the story, etc.
For all you armchair lawyers, you should go search your Kos diaries and other online writings for similar formulations, because YOU TOO can be held liable for what you're writing on the internet if you're just repeating someone else's scurrilous lies.
Here's one legal sites answer regarding repeating rumors:
" The repetition of slander is usually just as "actionable" as the origination. Libel does have a few solid innocent dissemination defenses, e.g. no sane court is going to rule that the newspaper delivery kid is guilty of libel. Generally, if you repeat or publish a defamatory statement, it's up to you to show the court why you're not guilty of defamation."
OUCH. That's gonna sting. Now better scrub your diaries, blogs and comments of all the lies you've been telling before someone reads them and decides that bankrupting YOU is fair political sport the way you thought going after Palin was.
Now run along....
Jim B | 8.3.09 @ 9:47AM
jygjgjgj -
Evidently you don't have the first understanding about what constitutes "free speech" or the proper interpretation of the First Amendment.
The only thing statements like yours show is how embarrassingly bad our public schools are.
Grzmlyk| 8.3.09 @ 9:49AM
Hey "conservative. . . "
It's "intellectuals" like Woodrow Wilson who delivered the corrosive effects of progressivism to the US (how'd that "League of Nations" work out?).
It's "intellectuals" like FDR who brought us the failed New Deal and Social Security.
It's "intellectuals" like Jimmy Carter who gave away the Panama Canal, presided over a "misery index" and humiliated an entire country before a group of fundamentalist Muslim students - for which we are still paying a very dear price.
To paraphrase WFB, I'd rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the crooked bunch we have in government right now in the White House, Congress and all of the Cabinets - oh, and the, what, 35 (and counting) czars. No doubt you think Obama is an "intellectual."
ENOUGH INTELLECTUALS!
The fact that Sarah Palin is not an intellectual is a
good thing, and in any case I'm willing to bet her IQ is higher than yours.
gerry| 8.3.09 @ 9:54AM
Well, appearantly now in the United States of America, verbal protest against a Political figure is a crime. Why don't we beat the teacher and throw the teach in prison like IRAN is doing.
America is the land where if you hate a politician, you can say so, make jokes, and throw insults and not be arrested. Imagine if NIXON arrested everyone who made insults about him, Imagine in Jimmy Carter arrested everyone who made insults about him. Imagine if those insults were not free to be heard. The Rules Restraining Our Freedom Today will be the Rules Restraining Your Freedom Tomorrow.
ds80| 8.3.09 @ 9:58AM
It's very telling how the Liberals start squealing when the tactics and tools they routinely use are turned on them. To wit: blogs, Twitter, the legal system. Poor babies.
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paul| 8.3.09 @ 10:13AM
now what about all the afro americans, poles, chinese, spanish and so on that have been slandered and continue being slandered in this country should not they as well sue the Good old USA for traumatising them, as I have been since setting foot on this land and being beat up in school on the 1st day becasuse I was not anglo saxon, irish, or whatever they would prefer. I say to all poles in this country to join up with the blacks and take on the stupid nonsense establishment for all the crap they have inflicted and continue to inflict on us. There is no equality for us as we are viewed as subspecies. Screw palin who cares, right the wrongs of this society by exposing them and Palin is who she is and compared to being racially or ethnically slandered saying her marriage is breaking up is like desert compared to what so many of us have to go through. Polish jokes are open territory on the good old usa TV channels and there is nothing that can be done seemingly. but anglo saxons cant put up with it because of their weak disposition, they can dish it out but cant take it little girls they are. And I mean american anglos especially and others as well can be thrown into the mix. I was never beat up by a black person but on many occasions beat up by white, latin, irish americans, and even slandered many times by jewish americans who I did nothing wrong to. I am baffeled by this behaviour of people that are brought up in a nonsensical fashion. Obviously they must get this from their parents who are not well educated or just are mean people. What else could it be. Mrs. Palin can complain but she should complain about this more as she should be concerned about the public not herself, after all she claims to be a public servant first, no?
swizzle| 8.3.09 @ 10:18AM
it's clear palins trying to stifle his freedom of speech. as if being a quitter isn't bad enough. everyone notice how she's doing the exact same thing she was crying abour earlier, going on personal attacks. stupid republicans.
marybel| 8.3.09 @ 10:23AM
Most 0f this malignment of Palin is a distraction. ..to keep us all busy swatting flies, trying to prove negatives, in order to deflect real concerns about Obama's unreleased school records...like his coursework, his grades, his leftist associations, particularly during college and beyond.
A self-proclaimed socialist friend claimed that these records were easily accessed, but she was bamboozedly incorrect. Was she ever!
This is an Alinsky strategy if there ever was one!
Are you kidding me?| 8.3.09 @ 10:28AM
Why is anyone still talking about Sarah Palin? She is an embarrasment to the Republican party and to the United States of America. As she once again proved in her resignation speech, she cannot articulate a coherent thought on television (even in her own pre-written speech). She is not fit to be president of the United States. Or Vice President. Or even to complete a four year term as governor of a state which has a poplation less than that of Fresno California (Fresno County is currently around 900,000. Alaska is around 650,000). The President of the United States should represent the best and brightest from our Nation, irrespective of ideology. When that is lost, so will be our nation.
Anonymous Coward| 8.3.09 @ 10:48AM
I'll take you all more seriously when you attack lies originated by lying Republicans (e.g. Obama's birth records) as seriously as those from your political enemies. Which isn't likely to happen very soon.
Bill| 8.3.09 @ 10:53AM
Lib Wacko Reader, it may be true that Gov. Palin was a public figure, but Gryphen will still have to bankrupt himself defending the charges. Scorched earth policy FTW.
Britt| 8.3.09 @ 11:08AM
I am a left leaning independent voter. I used to be right leaning, but the likes of Rush & Coulter, et al, changed that. Plus, I am not a particular fan of Sarah Palin. All that being said, the innuendo that this Kindergarten teacher has issued from the lower regions of his bowels just infuriates me. It's the same effluent that Rush & Coulter make a specialty doing, except, suprise, it's coming from the other sorry side. Where is a reasonable person going to find a safe harbor? Where, where?! It's nauseating and ironic that a Kindergarten teacher has learned how to contribute to the political process from his students. Does anyone on the extreme ever stop to think how they demote their own credibility and the integrety of their politics with this kind of nonsense?
Cali| 8.3.09 @ 11:10AM
It amazes me that people who pretend to have a brain stand behind that idiot Palin. McCain handed over the presidential race to Obama when he stuck Palin next to him. They are all a bunch of idiots and I'm more than happy to see people stand up and say so. Obama included. Liberal, conservative, whatever. Think for yourself and admit that Palin has no business in a position of power at a state level much less a national level. There again, neither does Obama. Some of you would rather follow the herd than think for yourself. That is why our country is going to hell in a handbasket. Lord help us all.
Newsflash, you don't have to worship Palin just because you disagree with or dislike Obama. They're both idiots and it is ok to say it outloud. This latest case of Palin histrionics is yet another example of why she could never cut it in a position of power. She needs to go home and take care of her family. After a while no one will even remember who she is. One can hope anyway.
MAGIC| 8.3.09 @ 11:16AM
So what if the Palins splitting up . Who cares ? I know I careless what this bunch of people does or don't do . They are the ones has to pay the price for everything they do . If the Palin couple is divorcing they are not the first nor be the last ones to ever divorce . How can an marriage survive after Sarah Palin she was in the campaign with McCain everything was done and said whether truth or lies ? One I feel sorry for is Mr . Palin . Way I see it him an married man whom suppose to be head of the house he the one wearing the dress of the house having no authority what so ever . Nonsense comes to an end some time another . Time will tell truth if an divorce is going to be or not to be.If divorce takes place Mr Palin certainly an great catch for an real honest sweet , loving caring God fearing female whom loves to be real woman . I certainly pitty the man that tries to sweep Sarah in his life as wife or girl friend . He certainly end up tossing her back into the ocean for the next shark that doesn't think twice . Sarah Palin defintley needs rexam her character , attitude , and her mistakes she has made and make real serious changes for the better using the real King James version of the Bible for what it truly says not way she wants it to say to do as she pleases .
The Guy| 8.3.09 @ 11:16AM
P.S.-matt, not everyone from Texas is a Right Wing moron. I am a proud Texas Democrat and completely support this blogger's right to blog. I'm sure if these people really wanted to waste more time and taxpayer money, they could find something worse on a blog somewhere out there to criticize, and subsequently sue over....idiots...they're just blogs people, last I checked, we're still allowed to say whatever the heck we want, as long as it's stated as an opinion or has a source cited...
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offrope| 8.3.09 @ 11:41AM
I guess we'll see what this idiot's lawyer told him when he puts up a retraction, apology, and admission to being a liar.
Ushivon| 8.3.09 @ 11:43AM
I am horrified at the sheer nastiness of the anti Palin camp. Even in the UK, the articles have been seemingly about her impersonator Fey. Wake up journalists because we know we could do a lot better than the crap you are coming out with. I wanted to take out a subscription to a paper but because of the lousy journalism, I have not done so. You do not deserve a job with your lousy reporting that ignores all of the real issues If this is what the consumer gets, The public deserve new papers!
Joan of ARK| 8.3.09 @ 11:52AM
Freedom of Speech is just that. The freedom to speak out and not be stiffled. But, it was not intended as a tool to be malicious, filthy & immoral.
Sarah Palin is a beautiful, intelligent, wonderful person, mother, wife and grandmother. Anyone in America should be proud to have her represent them. So few in office anymore have any morals,
know what the people want, or how to represent us. Sarah knows and is down to earth and has common knowledge of what is needed.
What we have in office now is a greedy, controlling bunch and we need to vote all of them out of office and clean house. Replace with clean, God loving & caring people such as Palin, Huckabee, etc. The people are sick of what is going on. Only a STUPID person would pass a bill and not even read it! And, saying "WE WON" is so like a kindergartener. Wake up and do your jobs and stay out of places where you do not belong. This party is busy trying to get rid of God. Why? The truth would come out, that our planet will still be in tact when the Lord returns (doing away with Gore's Green Plan). That we will always have the poor. (Obama can not equalize us, those who work eat and those who do not will do without unless they work)
Life is full of cycles so the market goes up and comes down and corrects itself as President Bush stated, he was in favor of the market taking care of itself, then Paulson and the Democrats tried to prove something needed to be done immediately.
Well, it was done immediately and look at the mess we are in! A WISE man takes his time and analyzes what needs to be done......
Sarah B.| 8.3.09 @ 11:54AM
"We've got your back, baby girl." .....Smitty....are you serious...."baby girl" do you realized how demeaning that statement is to a grown woman who has worked hard for her success? I definately DO NOT support her, but that is just down right demeaning to all women! By the way, everyone hates/loves her because she has presented herself as POLARIZING!...that is something she did. She choose to present herself in an extreme view, and this is the result....you reap what you sow.
Ann_IA| 8.3.09 @ 11:56AM
My exclusive internet sources informed me over the weekend that Jesse Griffin is a closet pedophile, and uses his job at the Elementary School to plan his next attack on little girls. I can't, of course, reveal my sources, yaknow, cuz I'm kinda like a , yaknow, journalist and stuff. But I'm sure it's accurate to the best of my knowledge. I'm not being malicious, just telling what I know,,,,yaknow.
no_typin_randy| 8.3.09 @ 12:10PM
it is time for the intelintia to rule the country, not the morons from alaska or texas.
mutt - thanks for showing all your INTELINTIA
CathyK| 8.3.09 @ 12:14PM
Poor Sarah. Why can't she and the rest of her loyal supporters figure this out. She responds to every crank remark, she wants to fight over every rude remark ever made. She could take a lesson from Hillary. She needs to get above responding to enquirer like media coverage because each time she does she is only shooting herself in the foot. By actually addressing every low-blow media remark she merely validates this very low-level of media coverage, it makes news. She will never be able to get ahead if she cannot ride these things out. And seeing Democrats under every bush - they don't need to do anything to get her bad press, she does it all by herself. Conspiracy theories about O'Bama and Axelrod are just that, theories. Think about it, liberals have no need to mudwrestle with Palin as she is always ready to climb in the ring with any two-bit blogger that has made some snotty remark. If she keeps laying down with pigs she is always going to come up muddied. She and all of her supporters should just let it go. No response is no news and she will eventually be left alone. Or maybe she could go and do something positive like start a school for the poor Inuits. If there were something positive to say I am sure someone would.
Ann_IA| 8.3.09 @ 12:22PM
"She could take a lesson from Hillary"
HAHA...you mean like going on national tv and telling the world what whores Broderick and Flowers were? or do you mean like hiding billing records and FBI files and obstructing a Federal investigation for over a year? Which one of those "getting above it" did you prefer? Or did you mean the Hillary that has now rolled over for Obama and let herself become null and void?
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Will Wallace| 8.3.09 @ 12:34PM
Sounds like "Gryphen" needs a good ol' down home Alaska butt kickin'.
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pj| 8.3.09 @ 12:58PM
This article explains a lot about what is wrong with our country. Since when do KINDEGARTEN teachers need assistants? These two union losers think it's cool to trash people using bs and prevarication behind the anonymity of the internet.
Then there are the inherent unfair ability of malicious people to abuse the court system to exact monetary revenge on their victims.
LOSER PAYS AND LOSING ATTORNEY PAYS VICTOR'S ATTORNEY FEES. Problem fixed.
This is true for Mrs Palin and the jerk who sued her out of office.
steve in tulsa| 8.3.09 @ 1:08PM
It is hilarious how the left desperately tried to justify the slander and lies coming from themselves. It is not freedom of speech to make up malicious lies about people. You can talk all you want about policy but when you start making up stuff, like this kindergarten teacher, every week you make up a new lie to spread against an innocent person, well that is against the law.
It is completely within her rights to take all you bottom feeders to court for spreading false malicious rumors. She couldn't do it while she was in office so she left her office. You pinheads still don't get it but you will: now she can go after each and every one of you slanderers. This is just the first one. And you can bet she will have him in court. I have a feeling his plea for for legal fund help will not be welcome anywhere.
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 1:25PM
God has only given anyone born one right, the right to die. Anything else is made up by man. The King James Bible was written FOR King James and contains many errors as well as continual justification for the Divine Right of royalty and nobles to rule over everyone else. Anyone relying on it for a guide to life is a traitor to America and our founding fathers. Go live in a monarchy. I thought we got over having God in our system but I still hear politicians say I was elected with the help of God. Any politician giving thanks to God for his position should be disbarred from our politics. How about thanking those who voted for you. As for those of you that think this should be a "Christian" country, maybe you should study the history of your beliefs. There's already fine examples of cleric run contries, Iran and Saudi Arabia come to mind. If you think that Christians would be any less despotic or authoritarian - guess again. Germany was a fine Christian nation. The Pope as well as leaders in other Christian Sects were fine little Nazis when young. If you read how Hitler got to power it was through the conservatives not the liberals. Their media used the same tactics Fox is now using. Rush's wish that all current recovery plans fail and send our country into depression is treason of the highest degree and I include all those who agree with him. Your candidate didn't win so you want our country plunged into a depression? That's not spite, its insanity.
Our war hero threw it all away when he stood up and declared "I know how to win a war". To me being shot down while bombing civilians isn't a skill needed to "win" a war. And just what war did he have anything to do with did we ever win? Just the complete opposite. Pairing himself with a gleefully ignorant former beauty pagent loser and sports caster was a very stupid thing to do.
With that said, I think this assistant teacher should be investigated. Not for this silly rumor but his other posted remarks about women and children. I understand jobs are hard to come by but an assistant at 49?
BTW, Social Security is working just fine with an approval rating of over 90% of those of us on it. We paid into it and those of us unfortunate to become old or disabled couldn't get by without it. It's insurance run by the gov and doing fine even if the Republicans have looted it in the past to balance their books.
I'm an Infantry Marine Sgt with an honorable discharge who later became disabled due to an inherited condition and worked well into my late 30s. If you'd like to insult me come on over and do it in person or prove yourself a coward or nutjob.
no_typin_randy| 8.3.09 @ 1:32PM
NorCal - would you mind if we came over to thank you instead?
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 1:40PM
Please bring some beer, I can't afford any. No Bud products please - something American owned.
no_typin_randy| 8.3.09 @ 1:51PM
While I can barely afford the beer, due to my IT job being shipped over to India and points elsewhere, I can't afford the trip from north texas, so I will just have to sincerely say thank you for your service to this great country, and hope that should things change, I would like to enjoy some cold brew. Best of luck my friend!
Jane Galt| 8.3.09 @ 2:07PM
The standard for defending defamation of a public figure is showing knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth. If he said, point blank, the Palins are divorcing and cannot back show that he made some effort to ascertain whether it was true, he could be found liable. Rumors are not defamatory if they are clearly identified as rumors. That is not my understanding of what happened here.
LogicalUS| 8.3.09 @ 2:13PM
"The President of the United States should represent the best and brightest from our Nation"
Spoken from idiots who thought the the best and brightest had been hanging out at ACORN workshops in the the slums of Chicago for the past 15 years!!! Excuse us, but as evidenced by the disaster which is Barack Obama, America doesn't need your advice on electing anymore leaders.
It would be a little easier for Americans to not laugh their arses off at you idiots taking pot shots at this lady, if you idiots had NOT voted for Joe Biden, a well-documented and widely known horse's ass of the first order.
So spare us your idiocy while America decides who is going to be the one who cleans up for your juvenile experiment in promoting the village idiot to the Presidency.
SClanding| 8.3.09 @ 2:14PM
"The President of the United States should represent the best and brightest from our Nation"
Spoken from idiots who thought the the best and brightest had been hanging out at ACORN workshops in the the slums of Chicago for the past 15 years!!! Excuse us, but as evidenced by the disaster which is Barack Obama, America doesn't need your advice on electing anymore leaders.
It would be a little easier for Americans to not laugh their arses off at you idiots taking pot shots at this lady, if you idiots had NOT voted for Joe Biden, a well-documented and widely known horse's ass of the first order.
So spare us your idiocy while America decides who is going to be the one who cleans up for your juvenile experiment in promoting the village idiot to the Presidency.
jane| 8.3.09 @ 2:16PM
Actually Jane Galt - the blogger said "I know this is true." Sounds like that was an affirmation that it was more than just a nasty rumor
the problem child| 8.3.09 @ 2:43PM
Not sure why you all think you are such geniuses for "outing" someone who has never tried very hard to hide in the first place. C'mon, his blog is posted on his myspace page.
Pingback | 8.3.09 @ 3:00PM
GREAT work Stacy- nice bro
Grace| 8.3.09 @ 3:09PM
If I were a Liberal (and believe me I'm not and thank God that I'm not) I would be so embarrassed by the behaviour towards Palin. I am not a supporter of hers but honestly you people need to grow up and get over it.
Palin for President 2012| 8.3.09 @ 3:51PM
I've never seen such ugliness toward a politician in my life. What did Sarah do to deserve such hatred from liberals? The answer is nothing--Liberals hate Sarah Palin because they fear her.
And well they should.
Jana | 8.3.09 @ 4:24PM
I would just like to know why these folks, such as this blogger, hates Sarah Palin so much. If she fights back against such nonsense it is because a) she has the right to defend herself and her family b) she has a young family who might be disturbed over these types of rumors c) it is a falsehood, lie, fabrication and equals defamation of charector that she would do any of the following; cheat on her husband, declare a child born is her own if it were not, be divorcing her husband and moving to Montana and taking her kids from the family network she has here in AK. None of that is true about her. How do I know? Cuz I live here in Anchorage, I work for the State and have access to public records just as every private citizen does. Just google "court view, anchorage, ak" and fill in the fields with proper information. Oh and the DNC was about to paruse at length Palin's medical records. Don't some of you idiots realize that they would have disclosed the little factor of no chart notes, birth certificate information, etc on little Trig. Even birth records are recorded up here in Alaska. Don't you think vital statistics could verify the baby's birth mother? Or was there some big Right Wing conspiracy to cover it all up BEFORE she was tapped for VP in '08. C'mon people...think, will ya. Just try it. You might like it. We love you, Sarah Palin and Family...just remember that. You go, Girl!
charden105| 8.3.09 @ 4:49PM
SHAME__SHAME __SHAME
I would bet this a Dem or a left wing crap head that wishes he could be hooked up with someone as pretty as Sarah.I bet YOU look like a HORN TOAD. Get a life JERK.
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 4:56PM
What is the big deal?
A rumor that the Palin's are divorcing? Who cares?
Why is this some kind of "vicious attack"?
Glenn Beck called Obama a "racist" this week. Republican aids were circulating emails comparing Michelle Obama to an ape.
The prevelance of fools in the world is one of God's enduring mysteries.
Why are you all so shocked?
Palin was the Republican party's nominee for Vice President. She's a national celebrity and will soon be earning millions for a book ghost written by someone else.
Why do you people feel sorry for her?
I feel sorry for you. And really, I'm not joking.
greg| 8.3.09 @ 5:33PM
This story must have been posted at the Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, and Huffington Post, that would explain the influx of the Palin Derangement Syndrome support group.
This isn't about a solitary blogger, this is about unraveling the entire anti-Palin smear and lie machine set up by the 0bama campaign.
Watch "ethicsgate." The video shows the working relationship between the anit-Palin bloggers, the "ethics" complaint filers, and the AK Democrat Party. It also establishes a link between the AK Dem Party and the 0bama administration.
When this is all exposed to the public at large, just not the blogosphere, it will be bigger than Watergate. Undoubtedly, there will be money laundering, falsification of records, lies, coverup, and all leading directly to the DNC, Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod, and 0bama himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyrP8qQlpU
jrdelta| 8.3.09 @ 6:09PM
NorCal :
Pretty big talk from a man who neglected to include his address.
Basil Plumley| 8.3.09 @ 6:16PM
Liberal Reader
You said--The prevelance of fools in the world is one of God's enduring mysteries.
Well, that explains your presence. It also does not explain the viciousness and falseness of the attack on Palin.
If we are forced to suffer fools like you gladly, could you at least stay on point and use proper grammar. You are quite embarrassing. If you are the best the Left has to offer, I see much better days ahead.
Perhaps, you read Jane Galt| 8.3.09 @ 2:07PM
We have gone from---
Liberal Reader| 8.2.09 @ 9:23PM
Because Sarah Palin is a public figure, she would have to prove "malicious intent," something that is nearly impossible to do.
All the blogger would have to do is say, "I read it on the internet and passed it along," (which in fact is what he's saying), and the lawsuit would fail.
Don't be fooled by this stuff. I'm not saying anything here to Mrs Palin's lawyers don't know.
I'm not saying he didn't have a malicious intent. But because of the way the law gives wide latitude to citizens to criticize and -- yes -- even verbally attack public figures (free speech and all), it's virtually impossible to prove intent.
to-----
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 4:56PM
What is the big deal?
A rumor that the Palin's are divorcing? Who cares?
Why is this some kind of "vicious attack"?
Glenn Beck called Obama a "racist" this week. Republican aids were circulating emails comparing Michelle Obama to an ape.
The prevelance of fools in the world is one of God's enduring mysteries.
Why are you all so shocked?
Palin was the Republican party's nominee for Vice President. She's a national celebrity and will soon be earning millions for a book ghost written by someone else.
Why do you people feel sorry for her?
I feel sorry for you. And really, I'm not joking.
ConservativeWanderer | 8.3.09 @ 6:28PM
I'd like to thank all the lefty trolls (and their sock puppets) for proving my point from 8:19 am this morning.
To quote an old TV show, "I love it when a plan comes together."
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 7:30PM
Plumley --
What's your point?
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 8:14PM
jrdelta - you're a violent sucker. Didn't you see the bait?
Why does everything right OR left always become some kind of conspiracy? 911 was the government, Trig is not Palin's child, Obama is a secret Muslim, etc nausium. Now I'm to believe that the President would somehow become involved in some rumor started by a kindergarten teaching assistant in Alaska itself? Money laundering? Palin blogs are the funnest game around. Could we just get on with repairing our country by working together? Anyone here not satisfied with the certificate of birth please hold your breath until they produce the long form PLEASE hold your breath.
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 8:19PM
jrdelta
I'd also like to thank you for you're intelligent dialog on the current topic - very showing.
jrdelta| 8.3.09 @ 8:26PM
Still don't see an address there, ace. Lot of bluster, but nothing behindit.
Smitty| 8.3.09 @ 8:52PM
LR/Jeremiah, sometimes your posts are intelligent and well written; sometimes they are poorly written, ramble and have misspellings like 'prevalence' and Republican 'aids'. It's almost like more than one troll writes under the handle, LibReader: Smart Jeremiah and dumb Jeremiah.
You astroturfers work in shifts now? Day, swing and graveyard? You're probably set up in the White House basement with Axelrod administering punishment to those trolls not vicious enough to suit his and Rahm's tastes.
What an azzclown you are. Whatever Obama & Co. are paying you, it's too much.
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 8:54PM
And I still see no content on the current topic, only a sublime threat of violence. Yes we all see you, now run along and play, we grownups are talking.
Caroline| 8.3.09 @ 9:04PM
Interesting that CathyK uses Hillary, the woman who stole 900 FBI files containing the personal information of her political foes, as a role model for Sarah Palin. Hillary Clinton and restraint have nothing in common.
So much idiocy.
jrdelta| 8.3.09 @ 9:11PM
That's the best you can do, ace? Marine sergeants are obviously not what they used to be. But that's fine -- I won't ask, and you don't tell. Capiche?
Liberal Reader| 8.3.09 @ 9:13PM
Smitty
"Prevalence" isn't the correct spelling? Guess I'll have to look that one up in my dictionary.
I do make plenty of typos. No question about it.
As for your theory that I'm being paid:
I can never tell when you guys are kidding about that. I mean, you're not crazy enough to believe I'm actually being paid to post on this website. So it must be a joke. Honestly, I just don't get it.
Sometimes your posts are well-written too, Smit, but you might want to pay attention to what they call syntactic parallelism.
You write: "Sometimes your posts are intelligent and well written, sometimes they are poorly written, ramble and have misspellings ...."
See how those units don't begin alike syntactically? Hear how the pieces of the sentence sort of jangle around and jostle one another?
Try it this way:
Sometimes your posts are intelligent and well-written. However, sometimes they ramble or include distracting errors, like misspellings."
Or
"Sometimes your posts are well-written, but often they ramble on too long and include distracting errors."
Now two active verbs ("ramble" and "include") get done what needs to be done in a vivid and clear way, and I've eliminated the tepid and awkward construction that used "are."
Charley Varrick| 8.3.09 @ 9:26PM
Please don't misunderstand me but after seeing his picture he is a gay man. I will bet anything that this is true. Dig far enough and you'll see I'm correct, not that there's anything wrong with that. But if true, his teaching and being around young children leaves me with a lot of unease. I'm not saying he's pedophile or even has those tendencies but I am a firm believer that gay men or women shouldn't be teaching elementary children. High school is different, I would have no problem with that. Because he might be gay, there is where the hatred for Palin comes in. Please save my post and when I'm right let me know. Thanks.
Charley Varrick| 8.3.09 @ 9:32PM
Liberal Reader, if Beck said this then attack him not Palin. My opinion about you doesn't matter but you're a troll from either Daily Kos or Move On. They are well versed in sending their minions or what I like to call liberals, zombies, out to police the internet especially conservative sites. You're no different. And I beg to differ about your claim that Republican aides were circulating emails comparing Michelle obama to an ape, that's a liberals trick I like to call "smoke and mirrors." obama also is a big "smoke and mirrors" type of leader and is quite skilled. What's your opinion of these obama/joker posters popping up in LA? Do you think it's a right wing conspiracy or a conspiracy started by the zombie left to try and paint conservatives as mean and hateful?
Charley Varrick| 8.3.09 @ 9:33PM
Liberal Reader, if Beck said this then attack him not Palin. My opinion about you doesn't matter but you're a troll from either Daily Kos or Move On. They are well versed in sending their minions or what I like to call liberals, zombies, out to police the internet especially conservative sites. You're no different. And I beg to differ about your claim that Republican aides were circulating emails comparing Michelle obama to an ape, that's a liberals trick I like to call "smoke and mirrors." obama also is a big "smoke and mirrors" type of leader and is quite skilled. What's your opinion of these obama/joker posters popping up in LA? Do you think it's a right wing conspiracy or a conspiracy started by the zombie left to try and paint conservatives as mean and hateful?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/01/obama-joker-poster-popping-los-angeles
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 9:38PM
I'm sorry I went fishing for idiots everyone. You can really tell a lot about someone if the first thing they do when frustrated is infer that you're gay. I'm out of here after this. Maybe our hormone challenged visitor will go as well.
No really; anyone here could be being paid to post for any number causes. That's one conspiracy I can believe in. Probably some nondiscript office, not the WH basement. CIA, Big Business and many other interest groups could have people blogging for them.
At least we can all have our opinions and most of us can do it with some decorum. Sorry for any errors in my grammer - did better with numbers and forms. Buy American!
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 9:44PM
Remarks about inferring someone was gay directed at jrdelta. Didn't know discusion had turned that direction while typing.
I'm out of here.
Julia Hickox| 8.3.09 @ 9:51PM
You go girl! It`s time for the bashing to stop. You stand for what this country is or once was. What ever you do I`m with ya 100%.
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 10:03PM
LR; you gave yourself away by admitting to having typos and a knowledge of grammer. You must be working for someone. Hmmm, well educated - got to be our current WH staff. Any job openings? Can I work from home? Just send me a general script and a list of blogs. I can keep a secret, I had Top Secret Secret clearance. Just hack this site for my email address and get a hold of me. I'll be waiting.
Charley Varrick| 8.3.09 @ 10:15PM
NorCal doesn't understand very well. It's quite evident that gay groups don't like Sarah Palin for a number of reasons, the main one her being a Christian woman. Some Christians just can't accept homosexuality and today are crucified for having opinions based on what they feel the bible tells them. Personally I could care less about who is gay. Jobs, the constitution and illegal immigration matter to me. But getting back to how unhinged Mr. Griffin is the topic of interest here. Have you or anyone read some of his evil comments? Quite sad. I have come to believe that liberals today are much like zombies. Do a bit of research on zombies and you'll find a liberal. Mr. Griffin is no different. There is a reason he is attacking Mrs. Palin so much and I happen to believe it's due to a personal situation of his. When someone attacks another there is a motive or a reason. Perhaps it's because of Mrs. Palin's aversion to homosexuality. That is my opinion to which I am entitled to have.
Smitty| 8.3.09 @ 10:16PM
Hooray! Smart Jeremiah must be working swing shift tonight. See how clever smartypants, Jeremiah is? Head and shoulders over the dumb Jeremiah! Tell Azzelrod to give you a bonus, Smart LR/Jeremiah!
Dumb Jeremiah would have fallen for my 'prevalent' trick because dumb Jeremiah misspelled it in the beginning.
You silly trolls, nothing better to do than earn pennies from Soros to betray your fellow Americans. Some brain, no heart, all whore.
Marcel| 8.3.09 @ 10:28PM
Charley, how do you know Sarah Palin has an aversion to Christians? I've never heard Sarah say anything like that. I try to base my opinions on facts.
Obviously, Griffin is unstable and should not be near young children. There's something wrong with him.
I think this sorry episode is less about Sarah and more about Griffin's hateful aversion to all Christians.
Marcel| 8.3.09 @ 10:30PM
Correction: Charley, how do you know Sarah Palin has an aversion to homosexuality?
Marcel| 8.3.09 @ 10:32PM
Sarah may not approve of homosexuality but she isn't a gay basher. Griffin is just a hater.
Nobama| 8.3.09 @ 10:37PM
I love those Joker posters of Obama! Absolutely brilliant! I want one. C'mon, Obama's a big boy, he can take it. Don't be so thin-skinned.
Besides, Obama is a democrat/liberal/socialist/marxist, right, Jeremiah/LR? Be loud, be proud!
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 10:56PM
Once again; my remarks about gay comments were addressed to the blogger jrdelta that came here in responce to a bait I left at the end of a comment and only is here to issue thinly vieled threats of physical violence not actual content. Of course you can have your opinion. That's why I was a Marine. And thinking that someone "looks" gay is not hateful or anything, just a personal observation. I can imagine gays don't like her and she probably dosen't like them. Read my first post and you'll see that while I don't think highly of Palin, this guy should be investigsted for his other posted remarks. This is some silly rumor that anyone desiring public office should be able to shrug off, not sue over. Wasn't she the one complaining about needless lawsuits?
I spilt coffee on myself - who knew it would be hot.
The drycleaners lost my pants - I want $1,000,000. (the last was filed by a lawyer)
How about "with the healthcare bill we can give Obama his Waterloo". Yes, lets vote out of spite, not the needs of the people who elected us!
Again: I posted about gay remarks in responce to jrdelta not you. I was busy redoing my next post so I didn't look like a grammerless redneck. People like LR set the bar high. For me quadratic equations were easier than sentance structure.
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Hate For Sarah Palin, Starts In Kindergarten, With Teachers. « AConservativeEdge links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Nobama| 8.3.09 @ 11:19PM
LR/Jeremiah doesn't have a bar: It's just another Axelrod astroturfing troll who has sold its soul for 30 pieces of silver. (That means you're a Judas, Dumb Jeremiah).
NorCal| 8.3.09 @ 11:35PM
You'll have to excuse me, I live in the middle of nowhere and am somewhat new to blogging, is astroturfing a word now? And please enlighten me. Troll I get. And even if he might be as you say I admire his use of American English. School was always rough for me because I'd be taking advanced math but be in the English class for the stupid people. I don't care if someone disagrees with me - just say it so I can understand and keep on subject. Or at least one subject away as you've done.
Smitty| 8.3.09 @ 11:55PM
LR/Jeremiah; in your hot shame you missed my point. Your spelling errors didn't catch my eye as much as the obvious discrepancies between/among the writers (In style and ability) posting under your moniker.
I think Basil discerned the differences, too.
Some of you are smart and some of you are not so smart...know what I mean?
Basil Plumley| 8.4.09 @ 12:02AM
Not bad for an uneducated old guy, eh?
At least that is what my fans like Bob think.
Like I said early on, I have a difficult time suffering liberal fools gladly. Especially, the RINO fools.
Liberal Reader| 8.4.09 @ 12:19AM
Smitty
I don't follow your point. Because someone posts using my name it means I'm in league with them? That we both are being paid by the White House to trick you into attacking Sarah Palin? What's the theory here?
But never mind.
It's true. Earlier yesterday I played around with how this blogger fellow might defend himself.
However, it then occurred to me that what he'd said wasn't particularly defamatory, particularly because it's so obviously not true.
If a person spreads a rumor that you are fooling around on your wife, it's defamatory (unless it's true, in which case, the issue is more complicated).
But just to say, "I heard a rumor that the Palins are divorcing" is not particularly defamatory. 50% of marriages end in divorce.
So my later post, which I admit was more casual in tone, was simply asking for someone to explain to me the cause of all the excitement.
You have people's heads spinning round; they're spitting up pea soup and singing in backwards Latin over this issue.
People need to toughen up a little.
Liberal Reader| 8.4.09 @ 12:34AM
Just think objectively about this situation.
Sarah Palin, less than a year ago, came within 5 or 6 percentage points of being one of the most powerful people in the world.
She was governor of a state. She's got a legal defense fund with a million dollars in it; she's got teams of lawyers.
(Do any of YOU have teams of lawyers?)
She's talking about suing a kindergarten teacher with a blog.
Here's what I think:
I don't think the real concern here is with Palin's family. Her family's fine.
I think many of you feel pressure on your marriages; I think many of you may feel as though your families are under attack. It's just beginning to sink in we're living through hard times, like our parents and grandparents. It's not 1988 anymore.
Jobs, doctors, education, the overall health of our communities -- these things feel threatened, and it causes anxiety and anger.
I suggest that working together as communities to fix these things -- in a large philosophical sense -- is the right idea. I don't believe it's every man for himself. I think it would be best if we worked together to make life for normal, everyday people simpler and more secure. We have fantastic, unbelievable wealth in this country. But people in our middle class, though they work more hours than any other middle class people in the industrial world, are not getting ahead: they're falling behind. My father supported our family on one salary: that's virtually impossible today because real compensation for work is lower now than it was 30 years ago. That's not good. People are working for the economy, rather than the other way around.
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 12:41AM
LR
Dude; they are convinced you are more than one person working for the "Man". I say you have fun with it. Or fess up. If so I'd really like "in". I want to earn enough to pay taxes again. Could I have a satelite conection for traveling? Or could I deduct the cost of it?
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 1:37AM
My father worked 6 days a week in the American Moters plant to pay for everything and a vacation. His tax burden was unbelievable compared to the wealthy. After a couple changes in ownership he was forced into retirement at a much reduced amount. Our downtown was totally decimated with the arrival of K-Mart and WalMart. All small family farms have been swallowed into large farming companies or housing for a population we all agreed was to large back in the 60s, backed by math and science. Snap-On and Jockey moved overseas. My home town is without any industry or hope. I can't stand to go back any more it's so sad. We've been on a crash and burn course for awhile.
Can we all pull together or do we bicker and take offence at every minor slight while the bus goes over the cliff?
MataHarley| 8.4.09 @ 2:38AM
Liberal Reader sez: It's just beginning to sink in we're living through hard times, like our parents and grandparents. It's not 1988 anymore.
__________
Well now, that explains it all if your grandparents' heyday was the 80s.
Let me try to enlighten you on a few things, young one. Van Klein's letter was not merely about the latest divorce libel, but Jesse Griffin's history of libel. And if you, or anyone else thinks it was a mometary slip by an otherwise nice guy, I suggest you spend less time with cyber lip service on this thread, and go thru his blog archives on many subjects to get a better handle on the personality.
A few more things.
1: 1st Amendment rights do not give you carte blanche to slander (verbal) nor libel (written). And our system allows for legal recourse. All is as the Founders and Framers intended.
2: Part of that legal recourse is to serve summons to appear when a civil suit is filed. This is done anywhere a petitionee may be... including his place of work. However only the most naive believe a summons service representative walks in and cuffs a poor slob in front of kindergarten kids. It's this simple.. they walk in, ask him to confirm his ID, and give him a package of papers. Won't that traumatize young minds for decades to come...
3: Don't count on Sarah suing this chump because it would be chump change at best. Can you say blood from a turnip? She's got plenty of bills to pay already. She will, however, run him thru his paces to humble his less than class act... as she rightfully should.
5: Lastly, you really need to read more. Sarah has not taken any cash from the legal defense fund, and it was not begat by Sarah. She was asked by the founder/trustee, Kristan Cole, if she would allow it to be the official fund. This is done to protect those who want to donate. Without an official fund set up... as Hillary, John Kerry, Ted Stevens and countless other politicans have... well meaning donors get scammed by low lifes who solicit their cash under false pretenses, and abscond with it.
If you'd like to learn more about the Trials and Tribulations /Ethics complaints of Sarah in depth - from the first three starting withTroopergate to the later sundry bogus ethics complaints - I suggest you wanter over to Flopping Aces and read both the Troopergate series, and the Alinsky Perfected series on the ethics charges. You just might learn something.
http://www.floppingaces.net/category/politics/sarah-palin-politics/trials-and-tribulations/
http://www.floppingaces.net/category/politics/sarah-palin-politics/troopergate/
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MataHarley | 8.4.09 @ 2:44AM
One more thing, Liberal Reader. I'm quite sure that Thomas Van Klein does not suffer from a multiple personality syndrome, therefore it's quite unlikely he can be considered a "team of lawyers". You must be mixing Sarah up with the Big Zero in the Oval Office, who has employed "teams" his entire political life... starting with the systematic legal elimination of his primary competition for his first IL Senate run.
Nobama| 8.4.09 @ 3:06AM
Jeremiah knows all about the Big Zero--he's one of his biggest butt-boys. Under-appreciated, though, 'lil Jeremiah works for peanuts.
Jeremiah wants to grow up and be one of Zero's 50 Czars. Czars, you say? Like Russia of old? Of course, there's that COMMIE CONNECTION again.
Comrade Jeremiah's got the swing shift blues.
Smitty| 8.4.09 @ 3:12AM
Jeremiah, don't try and go all Rodney King on us, moron. Trust me, commie--we'll NEVER get along. You and your fellow thug democrats are anathema to everything I hold sacred.
I stand for the individual, you stand for the collective--never the two shall meet.
Dang, you're dense.
PhillpMarlowe | 8.4.09 @ 7:27AM
Still no word on whether or not that whole “OMG Sarah and Todd are getting divorced” thing is any more true than the whole “OMG Palin is resigning because she’s under federal investigation” thing. Will these sorts of rumors fall into the same bucket as “Dick Cheney resigning as VP due to Libby/war crimes/etc. and will be replaced by Condi Rice,” or will they eventually be proven as factual as “John Edwards enjoyed boning dippy videographer while wife had cancer”? Time will tell! But in the meantime, here is a delightful letter from ex-governor Palin’s lawyer, offering to frighten a room full of little children because a blogger was spreading rumors about Sarah Palin’s marriage.
His employer would have cause to fire him if he was found to using the school's computer.
PhillipMarlowe | 8.4.09 @ 7:28AM
The link did not go thru:
http://wonkette.com/410254/palin-lawyer-will-take-complaint-straight-to-some-bloggers-kindergarten-classroom-if-necessary
Mo| 8.4.09 @ 9:48AM
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 1:37AM
My father worked 6 days a week in the American Moters plant to pay for everything and a vacation. His tax burden was unbelievable compared to the wealthy. After a couple changes in ownership he was forced into retirement at a much reduced amount. Our downtown was totally decimated with the arrival of K-Mart and WalMart. All small family farms have been swallowed into large farming companies or housing for a population we all agreed was to large back in the 60s, backed by math and science. Snap-On and Jockey moved overseas. My home town is without any industry or hope. I can't stand to go back any more it's so sad. We've been on a crash and burn course for awhile.
Can we all pull together or do we bicker and take offence at every minor slight while the bus goes over the cliff?
TO NOR CAL:
NorCal, go f uc k yourself. I WANT to push you and people like YOU over the f uc king cliff. Go whine to your daddy, he and his ilk let people like those in Wash and Sac get into power, and THEY (and you) deserve to die falling over the cliff. Yo' daddy is old and slow and useless and YOU are a whiny ass b itch. You are both useless morons.
Liberal Reader| 8.4.09 @ 10:17AM
When the slave speaks the speech of the master, he's still the slave.
Charley Varrick| 8.4.09 @ 10:44AM
NorCal I don't need a team of lawyers and you probably don't because you and I aren't out attacking other people like Griffin is doing to Palin. That's why she needs a team of lawyers. Her character is under attack and it's not fair so at some point you have to say enough is enough. Mindless zombie liberals get their walking orders from Move On and Daily Kos to constantly smear others. It would be nice to turn the tables on those sites and start attacking them or hacking into their sites. Sometimes you can't reason with people like this gay American, Griffin. So you have to fight back with fire like Palin is doing. I say let her alone. She's not holding any elected office at all now. So what's the purpose of continuing to attack her? I sure hope her lawyers litigate this Griffin to the ends of the earth. Eventually the donations will stop for him and he'll be in hot water. I say it's time to start attacking the Joker in office, obama. I love those posters showing up all over the place of him. I'm thinking of getting some myself and go out and plastering all around where I live.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/03/obama-joker-poster-starts-outrage-bush-joker-poster-not-so-much
Liberal Reader| 8.4.09 @ 11:57AM
Nobama --
Yeah, those Czars had everything in common with the communists.
Your acumen is impressive.
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 12:38PM
Way to go MO. I'm truly impressed. You don't like what I said and now you wish a veteran dead and attack the character of an old man in his 80s living with half a digestive tract. You'd be slow too. AND he has no voice here. Your hate and loathing are the finest example of the "NO" party. People say the new health care wants old people dead but I see it's really you and yours. Unfortunately for all the people posting intelligent comments and well phrased arguements you have now made them part of a group of rabid haters - again. It seems to happen every political blog. Those of you that put up with this foulness from your own side are equally guilty in your silence. And speaking of class; she goes fromVP candidate to someone wanting to confront some idiot in front of young children. This is warped and unbecoming of anyone wishing higher office.
There are now many reasons to fire the guy and he'll regret blogging the rumor when the media starts the circus but this should never make it to court.
I also agree that the woman and more importantly her family should be left alone.
I do find it disturbing that all this excitement involves some rumor when so many comments from y'all involve cursing and wishing another commentor dead. How do any of you justify this?
Don't you see how bad this makes you ALL look? How about reining in your loonies?
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 12:52PM
The joker posters are a rare form of high political satire and cudos to the artist. Such pointed comments are much more welcome than rants about terrorists and Kenyans or wishing others dead. The Bush posters are just some lame copy from a subpar artist.
I'd like to see more art like that but your haters classify artists and preformers a liberals so don't get your hopes up.
Basil Plumley| 8.4.09 @ 12:54PM
Liberal Reader
You win!!
In all the time I have spent here, I have never read anyone's opinion that lacked as many facts or as much common sense as you. Much of what you post is insulting to my intelligence. As a reward, you should get the new handle of Big Dummy or Liberal Dummy or Obtuse Liberal.
I suppose in due time I am sure you will post under all three.
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 1:21PM
I'm not 100% sure on this but wasn't the whole Czar thing started with Reagan with the Drug Czar? maybe that's the war McCain was taking about. Oh yea, we're losing that one too.
Michael Gray| 8.4.09 @ 2:30PM
There's one thing that Sarah Palin and her lawyer won't be saying much about and that is Jesse Gryphen suggesting that Trig is not Sarah's son. Sarah probably doesn't want to go there. However, now that it's clear that Sarah and her lawyer want to play hardball, there's little doubt that Jesse Griffin and his fellow bloggers are going to do Sarah on that issue. Sarah Palin fights back but so do her enemies!
Finally, this story may break in the MSM!
Michael Gray| 8.4.09 @ 2:33PM
There's one thing that Sarah Palin and her lawyer won't be saying much about and that is Jesse Gryphen suggesting that Trig is not Sarah's son. Sarah probably doesn't want to go there. However, now that it's clear that Sarah and her lawyer want to play hardball, there's little doubt that Jesse Griffin and his fellow bloggers are going to do Sarah on that issue. Sarah Palin fights back but so do her enemies!
Finally, this story may break in the MSM!
Smitty| 8.4.09 @ 3:07PM
Must be the Dumb Jeremiah working the day shift.
Russian Czars exercised nearly total control over the Russian people and so did Stalin, Khrushchev, etc. None of them was elected, just like Obama's Czars.
Of course, we all know that the Communists were much worse--Stalin slaughtered millions of his own people and brutally subjugated Eastern Europe.
Communism is a cancer, and we have to root it out of our own country. Czar is just another word for tyrant, Jeremiah; and Obama has installed a shadow government with his 50 UNELECTED Czars.
Smitty| 8.4.09 @ 3:11PM
One Czar is no big deal--50 Czars are dangerous! Who are these Czars and why does Obama need so many?
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 3:35PM
50 does sound like to many and a cushy reward for any faithful cronie. These special positions have been made up as each president faced a crisis, real or imaginary. They've been added by both parties. Just evidence of how inefficient and unflexable existing agencies are. I also think that legislation should passed without any riders or other attachments. That's left over from horse and buggy days. If something can't pass on it's own merit then it shouldn't be made into a law. If you can't keep up with it all let some who can do it. I also feel that if for some reason you can't stay awake during sessions you should retire.
Bailey| 8.4.09 @ 3:57PM
"When the slave speaks the speech of the master, he's still the slave." Words of a true Marxist who fancies himself the master. Your stupid sentiments went over like a lead balloon.
Too bad for you, Jeremiah/LibReader, that we're not Russian peasants.
Bailey| 8.4.09 @ 4:00PM
One or two Czars maybe, but NO Republican President EVER appointed 50 Czars--no equivocation here.
It's outrageous and Obama's dangerous.
Flag Waver| 8.4.09 @ 4:04PM
Mo is a liberal troll--we are not responsible for his rants.
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 4:10PM
Just read something from Rueters ' There are upwards of 20 of these high offices' How did less than 20 become 50. Statements like that are why Beck's status has gone from jounalist to entertainer. How do expect to be believed if you exagerate things so much. Not that any of these positions would be needed if various agencies or the houses did their jobs instead of bickering, grandstanding and ingnoring the voters wishes.
Please no more made up numbers. It just reminds me so much of irrational fear mongering.
sharmajee | 8.4.09 @ 4:13PM
Consider this interesting chronology.
Palin decides to do something with her life, characteristically choses Independence Day to announce it. The pundits go into tailspin, the Left goes batshit crazy.
Birthers movement takes shape and gains strength, the Hawaii government decides to reiterate that the COLB is legit, valid and well-founded. Plus, the Senate Demorcats pass resolution to record officially that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Nevertheless, the BC matter rages on, Birthers, Orly Taitz and Lou Dobbs get press coverage everywhere you look - even on Mattews, and Williams - and voila, suddenly a Palin divorce rumor springs up. On the weekend before BO's birthday.
Who ever said the universe was random!
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 4:34PM
Just read an Time article from 1973 about Nixon replacing the Energy Czar for the NEW Federal Energy Department. If the Dept was new, then Nixon had to appoint someone didn't he?
Can y'all stop making things up?
sharmajee | 8.4.09 @ 4:40PM
All this nonsense of naming or hiring of czars has gone too long, speciallyl now that there is so many of them. It was charming < a href="http://hokusai09.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/ubercrat/"> and interesting when they were few and far between. Presidents and journalists should make czars rare, true and meaningful, now that the Wall has come down, lol.
Smitty| 8.4.09 @ 5:24PM
Let's try that again.
More lies from idiotic lib trolls trying to cover for their dear leader.
The truth: "Obama's Czars draw criticism from both sides of the political Aisle." Some accounts show that only 6 months into his presidency, Obama already has three dozen (36) Czars managing everything from the Guantanamo shut down to the crisis in Darfur.
Even Robert Byrd, D, WV (No Conservative, he) objects to Obama's Czars, "The accumulation of power by White House staff can threaten the Constitutional system of checks and balances."
The evidence is everywhere that Obama has appointed Czars in numbers nearing 50. Only a lying liberal troll propagandist would try to deny these facts or say Republican Presidents did the same.
These Czars are unelected and are not accountable to the American people. Obama is running a shadow government and must be stopped!
Smitty| 8.4.09 @ 5:30PM
"Obama has more Czars than Imperial Russia," Eric Cantor.
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 5:58PM
You do understand that :
A: the title of czar just means that you've been made in charge of some agency or commitee. It's a word coined by the press. Nobody has a sign on their desk or door saying Drug Czar, Car Czar, Mideast Czar etc. Made up, imaginary, catchy turn of a phrase, what ever.
B: ALL prsidents since at least Nixon have had the press use the term Czar to descibe some appointments. You've got to appoint someone when new departments are made. In some cases it would be neglectfull to do so.
C: If you count every official in charge of something as a Czar, then you have hundreds of them including Czar Biden of hanging out and doing little but keeping my foot out of my mouth.
D: I was agreeing with on principle that maybe there WERE too many uncheckable appointments possible by ANY president. Our government is getting to big with little oversite and it didn't happen in just a few months.
You don't pretend that all Republican Presidents have been perfect and I won't pretend that all Democrat Presidents were perfect. I did vote for Reagan his second term for the pay raise he promised we military personel (is that buying votes or what?) and because he was making headway with the Russians and reducing the chances of global conflict. I vote for the man with a plan not someone who says the other side has the wrong plan but offers none of their own.
Smitty| 8.4.09 @ 6:39PM
First you deny the existence of many of the Czars, and when that's shot down you try to explain them away. Biden was elected--he's not a Czar--that's my point.
Admit it, you're a liberal Kool Aid drinking Obamabot without a mind of your own. No prob--your numbers are legion; that's how the azzclown got elected.
It's our job, as thinking, self-sufficient citizens who can't be bought off, to make sure the Marxist Obummer fails. We're workin' on it!
NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 7:50PM
I deny that there is even one government position or office that has the word Czar in it's formal title. It's a word made up by the press. They are all the head of some department or such.
Tell me the truth: do you really think there's a door some where that says Office of the CAR CZAR?
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NorCal| 8.4.09 @ 9:30PM
WTF that pingback makes it look like someone here was crass enough to say such a thing, like her or not, thats over the line.
I think no one really cared enough to advise her on what to read up on. Just yanked out into the spotlight suddenly. Couple that with the wardrobe that the GOP gave her and it was a PR disaster. The only persons she could probably trust was her makeup and hair people. She needs a speech writer she can trust and issue clear denials. In this case all she would need to do is repeat some of his public postings and she'd come away look savy while this jerk would get fired and forever ridiculed. No need for court. She should hire PR people not lawyers. If you really care about her counsel her to stop the flare ups. When hunting wolves from a chopper you don't just start shooting up the countryside. Take aim and calmly take the shot.
Not that I'd vote for her but she needs a different approach to rumors.
Bailey| 8.4.09 @ 10:41PM
Obama promised the MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY--he lied. A shadow government is not transparent. Czar is just a word--why are they there, what is their job and to whom do they answer?
Why fixate on Palin? She's not even in office. Obama is the real threat, yet you don't even bother to question his actions. Kool Aid drinker.
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NorCal| 8.5.09 @ 1:34PM
Why fixate on Palin? She's not even in office. Obama is the real threat, yet you don't even bother to question his actions. Kool Aid drinker.
Maybe because this is a blog about Palin. If you want to discuss a "shadow" government find the paranoia blog.
I love how anyone with another opinion is all of a sudden drinking the coolaid, part of some plot, is gay, or called something else derogatory. I also like how anyone coming in and bashing someone is also part of some plot to make the right look bad. Guess what: you are all doing a fine job of looking like narrow minded idiots that can't accept scientific fact, the will of the majority, suffer from paranoia, and you are the worst losers ever. Is this what you teach your kids? I can't drive so lets wreck the train? I can't form a comment so I'll swear, blame it on others and start calling people names? You are sad indeed and that's why people like me are becoming more and more outspoken against you all. Have your little hate fest. Just keep in mind that we of the majority aren't all pacifists when you open your mouth in public.
Georgio| 8.5.09 @ 6:38PM
Stop your threats you hateful little liberal freak. Let's see who the majority really is in this country. Certainly not the leeches like you.
Foolish bloodsucking whiner, ObamaCare will kill you because you're a useless feeder.
Go back under your slimy rock, loser.
acmetech| 10.28.09 @ 11:36PM
Gawd, I *love* all this free, openly hateful speech here! Keep showing your true colors!!
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PALIN GOT THE LAST LAUGH!| 8.6.09 @ 2:44PM
ROTFLMAO!! Loser libs, you just got your perverted asses kicked! There is JUSTICE! Go SARAH 2012!!
acmetech| 10.28.09 @ 11:45PM
What happened... something memorable? I guess not.
Anyway, you mean LAST CACKLE, don't you? Keep the upper case yelling, of course.
I saw the following bumper sticker in upper case too. Was it yours?
NO MORE DEATH PANELS!
-- PALIN-SCHIAVO 2012! --
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