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The Energy Spectator
America’s Oil Revival
Keeping abreast of the new energy reality — how soon before the U.S. becomes an energy exporter?
Last week Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski unveiled the Republicans’ new plan for energy development. She called for a partial opening of the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, the development of offshore oil tracts plus more production from federal lands. Within hours the Natural Resources Defense Council had dismissed the whole thing as “a plan from the past.” And in fact it was little more than a reiteration of the four-year-old cry, “Drill, baby, drill.”
Anyone who thinks this signals another four years of energy stalemate, however, is sadly mistaken. The very next day, energy expert Daniel Yergin was telling a hearing of the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee that, if anything, Washington is completely out of the loop as to what’s happening in energy. “Our thinking has to catch up with reality,” said Yergin, head of the prestigious Cambridge Energy Research Associates. “Everything has been turned upside down.”
Indeed. Only six month ago Mitt Romney was being mocked on front pages across the nation for suggesting North America could achieve energy independence within the next decade. Romney was careful to include Canada and Mexico, but the editorial writers ignored him anyway. Now six months later you could cross out Canada and Mexico. Within a few months, Congress will be undertaking a contentious debate over whether we should become an energy exporter.
Everybody knows about the natural gas boom, of course, brought about by the new fracking technology. Prices have been driven so low that gas wells are now closing down, waiting for the glut to subside. Fracking has so much momentum that even the attempt by Matt Damon to do for fracking what The China Syndrome did for nuclear power slunk out of the theaters in about a week. Sorry, Hollywood, even star power won’t be able to stop this one.
But natural gas is only the beginning. Where indirect drilling and the new fracturing techniques will have an impact is on reviving American oil. Consider this. The Bakken Shale’s “tight oil” formation, opened for development in 2006, has lifted America’s oil output 38 percent over the last five years. That’s the equivalent of the entire output of Nigeria, OPEC’s 7th largest producer. North Dakota is booming as if it were the 1980s. Unemployment is 3.2 percent, lowest in the nation, and Wal-Mart is paying $17 an hour. Things have gotten so good that the New York Times has felt compelled to dispatch reporters to tell us how women are being harassed in oil towns and many roughnecks lack medical insurance. (But the roughnecks do have enough money to offer the women $3,000 a night to tend bar at private parties.)
Now here’s the big news. As far as tight oil is concerned, the Bakken is just square one. The Eagle Ford formation in Texas, which is just getting started, is estimated to have the same amount of reserves (3-4 billion barrels). But another 15.4 billion barrels — 64 percent of all U.S. reserves — lie in the Monterey formation of central California. (Why does California always get the best of everything?) If Golden State politicians allow this oil to be developed, it will be far more significant than the ANWR or the Keystone Pipeline.
All these American resources are open for development precisely because they are not owned by the federal government. That is the saving grace. Except for the 60 percent land west of the Rockies that is owned by the government, America has the best system in the world for developing resources. Private investment and private ownership get things done while governments everywhere are consistently bogged down in bureaucracy, “baksheesh,” red tape, environmental opposition, and every other kind of impediment.
This was emphasized again only last week when BP estimated the tight oil and shale gas resources that have become available around the world through fracking and then projected how much of these new resources are likely to be developed in the next fifteen years:
As you can see, oil and gas resources are fairly evenly distributed around the world except — irony of ironies! — in the Middle East. Too bad. They will have to settle for the conventional varieties. But when it comes to developing these resources there is only one place where it is going to happen — North America, which means the United States and Canada. And notice how estimated North America production in 2030 — 800 million tons of oil equivalent — is still only a drop in the bucket compared to the 50 billion tons of oil equivalent estimated to lie beneath the ground. If the rest of the world ever gets around to adopting these technologies, there will be plenty of oil and gas for everybody.
In the meantime, the willingness to develop energy resources is creating a huge division between the laggards and those willing to forge ahead. Europe, for example, is falling by the wayside. Although the Continent has ample shale gas, most countries (except Poland) have already decided not to use them. The result is the EU is becoming ever more dependent on Russian gas — which is the equivalent of putting your neck in the noose. The Russians are already shaking down Ukraine and Lithuanians have been left shivering this winter as Gazprom enforces its monopoly power. (Lithuania was put in this bind by the European Union in 2009 when it was forced to close its two nuclear reactors, which provided 70 percent of its electricity, as the price of entry.) Meanwhile, Russia and China continue to forge ahead with conventional oil and gas. Russia is planning pipelines across Siberia to reach Asia and China is buying up energy resources from Africa to Alberta (as well as in the U.S. — President Obama is afraid to rock the boat for fear China won’t lend us any more money).
What is even more interesting is the divide that is coming between the Red and Blue States. Those states with Republican governors and legislatures are forging ahead. Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma, of course, have long been the workhorses of the nation but Ohio Governor John Kasich also did a beautiful job of bringing the players together to chart Ohio’s development of its Utica Shale. Now shale gas revenues are not only filling employees’ pockets but spurring a manufacturing renaissance as well. In neighboring Pennsylvania, where Republican Governor Tom Corbett presides over an all-Republican legislature, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports: “Private landowners are reaping billions of dollars in royalties each year from the boom in natural gas drilling, transforming lives and livelihoods.” Pennsylvania royalties are moving north into the vicinity of Alaska.
Right across the border in New York, however, despair prevails. Although upstate farmers are ready to go, the state is in the clutches of New York City’s celebrity culture where Yoko Ono is leading an anti-fracking campaign out of her Central Park West apartment. Governor Andrew Cuomo, of course, is shilly-shallying, eager not to offend anyone famous. Cuomo has punted several times on the issue and will continue to dodge it as long as possible. As far as the oil and gas industry is concerned, who cares? New York’s Marcellus portion would only add to the glut, depressing prices even further. But upstate New York remains in the company of Mississippi and Alabama as the poorest regions in the nation.
Just like Governor Cuomo, President Obama will avoid taking a stand on the Keystone Pipeline as long as humanly possible. The latest postponement is until June and will undoubtedly stretch far beyond that — maybe into the next administration. But once again, it doesn’t matter much. The only losers will be those Texas refineries that were built to process the heavy Alberta tar sands. Much of that oil was slated for export as refined products anyway. Killing Keystone won’t have much impact on domestic supplies. In fact, President Obama will probably argue that the bounty from tight oil and shale gas now makes Keystone unnecessary — while claiming credit for the fracking boom himself.
The epic confrontation, however, will come when California has to decide whether to open the Monterey Shale. Will the Golden State go the way of Europe and forsake resource development? Will it go on chasing windmills and solar butterflies while sliding toward insolvency? And if California, New York, Illinois, and the other enterprise-averse states do slide into insolvency, will the prospering red states be obliged to bail them out?
Stay tuned. It’s going to be interesting.
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Appleby| 2.8.13 @ 6:55AM
You cannot keep Americans from doing what they are bound to do, just as you cannot make them do what they are bound not to do. Zero doesn't have the American mindset and he will be left behind in the dust of history as the man who, when it started raining soup, was outside with a sieve and a fork.
Jack in Wi| 2.8.13 @ 8:00AM
Appleby good comments. Obama and those people in the Middle East who want us there forever bailing them out want us dependent on foreign oil. Russia is showing the world the way to get the Middle East off our back. They have increased their production to be number one in the world. We can thank Dr Thomas Gold, among others, for showing us the way to get to these vast energy resourses. Lets drill drill drill and tell the Arabs to pound sand. Let the Midle East be the problem of the people who need the oil, Japan, China, India, and Europe.
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 9:24AM
I hate to ask but how does Israel and a nuclear Iran fit into your equation? ...You know, those two wildcards the Arab World just love play against the U.S.
With all due respect, your views on foreign policy are naive to the extreme, as though some 14 year old is whispering in your ear.
Otherwise, I agree 100% with your comment!
Jack in Wi| 2.8.13 @ 2:08PM
We have no business proping up Israel or attacking a peaceful Iran. We should trade with anyone who has the cash. Israel can get off welfare and support itself or it can go out of business. China, India, Japan and Europe need the oil. Let them worry about it. The whole Middle East isn't worth one drop of American blood.
Doctor Right| 2.8.13 @ 2:48PM
Jack, what are your thoughts on Chuck Hagel?
Drunken Sailor| 2.8.13 @ 3:21PM
Has a picture of Hagel in his wallet.
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 3:22PM
Hagel, like Ray Lewis, will be very aggressive with the knife. The budget knife.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 3:46PM
Don't you mean: The Trophy?
The Super Bowl Trophy?
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 4:04PM
Sorry T, I meant the "Super Bowl Trophy" :-)
The "Super Bowl Trophy".
As in Jack in Wi is not the sharpest Super Bowl Trophy in the drawer.
Jack in Wi| 2.8.13 @ 3:49PM
Hagel should of stuck to his original comments and run for president in 2008 or in 2012 either as a Republican or independent. I would of voted for him. He was at that time a real pro-life conservative. Now he is working for a murderer, like Obama and has backtracked to all the Zionist senators. Phooey on him.
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 4:21PM
Hagel should have stuck, you would have voted, not of.
Tina B| 2.9.13 @ 12:08PM
Thanks, Moe. I've been wanting to do that for a long time.
GobBluthe| 2.9.13 @ 6:11PM
We're not propping up Israel you moron. Aid to Israel is equal to less than 2% of their GDP. Cut it fine. Then the anti-Semites like Jack will have to watch as Israel prospers even without aid.
West Houston| 2.8.13 @ 2:10PM
Gold didn't find shale, it has always been known as the source of hydrocarbons. It is impermeable and won't give up its fuel unless naturally fractured by faulting or flexing. You can thank George Mitchell for developing the technology to get at these resources by horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing.
Jack in Wi| 2.8.13 @ 3:52PM
Gold found out how widespread hydrocarbons were in the world. The Russians used a lot of his ideas in deep drilling exploration. I said he was one among others, not the only one.
Bob K| 2.9.13 @ 10:43AM
Pardon my cynicism here but exporting our oil and making big profits from it is the easy part. Waiting for those profits to trickle down to average Americans, as always, is the fly in the ointment. The electorate will still be fed the same bull***t and told to be happy because it will "stimulate the economy."
REFINING THE OIL HERE IN THE USA SO IT CAN BE USED RIGHT NOW by the nation is what will be the big problem. We would see almost instant stimulation from that but don't look for it to happen for a while, if at all.
Mr. Tucker's novel about China taking over America will probably prove to be true before this will come to pass.
We need new refineries for that and friendlier EPA regulations so no matter what happens with the pipelines and the fracking the costs of gasoline and diesel fuel will not be going down nor will the prices of the products they transport to the populace. The same goes for the prices of electricity and heating oil.
There is a "Dream Act" for immigrants and a "Dream" here of great profits to be made by the Oil Industry but the nightmare for the rest of America remains about how it will pay for the immigrant's dream.
Alan| 2.8.13 @ 7:58AM
You just wonder what this country could be without the utopian marxist anchor arounds its feet.
Alan| 2.8.13 @ 7:59AM
California? Lost cause.
Bob K| 2.8.13 @ 4:22PM
I expect so.
The Monterrey Shale beds surround and in some places sit on top of the San Andreas Fault. That will scare the crap out of Californians.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 8:05AM
The National Resource Defense Council labeled the idea of actually using Alaska for what we bought it for (It's Natural Resources) "A Plan from the Past". They have a better idea. They want us to use Wind Power, Solar, Steam and the Waterwheel. The Electric Generating Gerbil Running Wheel was another idea, but the Gay Community put a stop to that, for obvious reasons.
Really?
Why AREN'T we Drilling? Is it really about the Environment? Cause, we've been Drilling since the first Oil Well was put up in Penzoilvania. Right?
"It's too Dangerous."
The Stupid Brits have been Drilling in the North Atlantic for as long as I can remember. I think they've had like, 1 Problem.
We've had Rigs in the Gulf for what? 40 Years? In that time, how many Hurricanes have roared through those Waters without Spilling a Drop a that Black Gold? (And, no, that's not a Porno) (Is it?) (Ask Jack's Sister in Law)
Nebraska's Punk@ss Governor has given the O.K. for the XL Pipeline to go through. (If I was the Canadians, I woulda told him where to go, and run the pipe so that it never set foot in the Corn Holer State) Yet, President Collapse the Economy still says No.
As Flucked Up as California is, they could Erase their Defecits with the Money they'd recieve in Royalties from the Oil and Natural Gas that's off their Coast.
Upstate New York would be Boomtown Central, if Cuomo the Younger would think MORE about his Subjects, and LESS about his Political Ambitions.
Pecos Pete| 2.8.13 @ 8:30AM
Mr. Tim: Thank you. Excellent comment.
What if all states produced oil/gas like North Dakota and had a 3.2% unemployment rate? We would all be enjoying 50 year old whiskey, Brazilian beef, and there would be a world wide shortage of arugula. The leftist/progressive/marxist/communist/democrat world would be exploded.
John F. Kennedy: "A rising tide lifts all boats."
Alan| 2.8.13 @ 8:33AM
We'll see how long it takes for the infection known as the national government to spread to ND and kill the whole boom off. Can't have that going on.
Al Adab| 2.8.13 @ 8:36AM
Indeed Pete and JFK was correct.
What we have to ask in the policy realm is why we export X number of tankers every day and import Y number every day as well. Should not domestic production serve the national demand before the surplus becomes export product? Energy costs and product costs would fall. Gasoline would return to rational prices. For national security issues the US military would not be hostage to our ability to import in order to keep the ships, tanks and aircraft operating. Ask the Japanese how well reliance on oil imports serves a military.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 8:50AM
Well, ya know, Al. If we had people that had anything between their legs, we woulda used National Security a long time ago.
I understand that the Technology wasn't there, back in the 70's and what have you. But, it's there, now.
The only problem is that President Revenge is still on the Throne. And he won't rest, until all of John of Patmos' writings are Fullfilled.
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 9:49AM
We need new refineries too. Lots and lots of 'em.
pogybait| 2.8.13 @ 10:20AM
Some of our best engineers and corporations in the U.S. that design and develop refineries have been in India and China building rather large facilities for the past few years, while we are in the process of closing down ours.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 3:48PM
That's called: Moving Forward.
Al Adab| 2.8.13 @ 11:05AM
That to Bob is part of the equation. Also, the navy has a pretty fair track record of running nuclear power plants. Another ten refineries and about 25 nuke plants would go a long way toward the energy independence the powers that be keep talking about. Of course it doesn't fit their agenda because it does not involve "alternative" energy.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 12:08PM
CONTEST at this Story, below.
7-08| 2.8.13 @ 12:40PM
What is this contest? I have not posted here for some time and I do not have a clue as to the rules.
markenoff| 2.8.13 @ 1:14PM
It is TLP's way of drawing attention to himself.
Al Adab| 2.8.13 @ 1:18PM
Not sure there are any rules and the point somewhat escapes me, but sometimes it is rather fun.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 3:49PM
That's exactly what it is.
I admit it.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 3:49PM
Vagina boob.
Tina B| 2.9.13 @ 12:19PM
Like Robin and his band of merry men, and women, Timmy has summoned an analogy contest out of the ether, nothing magic, unless you count creativity and humor as magic, but out of which emerges a great camaraderie among the contestants. To be brought to ultimate fruition in a keg party this summer at Ricky Martin's house, in, oh, I forget the state, or we haven't been told yet. Or in I'll never be told and be left pining, along with , when my party dress and tiara go back to the attic once again.
Tina B| 2.9.13 @ 12:20PM
That was supposed to read, Along with Hardcard, who may not be given the party address either. Gulp.
TLP| 2.9.13 @ 3:31PM
If Hardcard's not there?
Neither am I.
Stkman| 2.8.13 @ 3:10PM
We have a large over capacity of oil refining capabilities in this country now. The United States is using less oil today than it was ten years ago. The growing markets are in Asia and that is where the new refineries are being built. It is cheaper to bring the raw product to a refinery in Asia than to bring it to North America, refine it and ship it out to Asia. Also, most Asian countries could care less what the EPA has to say. You can lease an island for 100yrs for a dollar as long as you build there and hire the locals.
markenoff| 2.8.13 @ 9:56AM
What we are in position to export now is natural gas, not crude oil or any of its derivatives. We will be a net exporter of natural gas but a net importer of oil until the same boom we've seen in natural gas prodution is applied to the oil formation mentioned above.
ebonystone| 2.8.13 @ 2:42PM
We are also currently exporting coal -- just ask Norfolk Southern and CSX, who maintain large coal loading docks at Norfolk and Newport News. We could export a lot more, if the eco-nuts were stopped. A couple of years ago, a plan was approved for major exports to China: the coal would come from the Powder River Basin to a new load facility on the lower Columbia
River. The EPA had already given its approval, but then the eco-nuts filed a new suit complaining that the EPA had considered only the impact of the new loading facility, and not the "global" environmental impact: i.e. the pollution from the trains bringing the coal from Wyoming to Oregon, and the pollution from the ships carrying the coal to China. Our ridiculous courts agreed and halted the project for "further studies". At which point the Chinese said "forget it" and went for Canadian coal instead. Jobs, incomes, and tax revenues all lost.
Stkman| 2.8.13 @ 3:13PM
@markenoff,
Currently the United States is the largest exportor of gasoline and nearly all other refined oil products. Lets be wise with all our resources though. We are largest consumer of energy in the world. Today's corporations would sell all of it right now if they could and leave nothing for our kids. We've had a useless energy department for 35 years. It's time we developed a real plan that meets our needs, goals and leaves something for future generations of Americans.
markenoff| 2.9.13 @ 3:18PM
But those refined products are made from imported crude. We still import over half the crude oil we use.
SCPOret| 2.12.13 @ 5:53PM
get your facts straight - In his memoir Counselor: A Life At The Edge Of History, Kennedy's speechwriter Ted Sorensen reveals that the phrase was not one of his or the president’s own fashioning. It was in his first year working for Kennedy (during JFK’s tenure in the Senate), when Mr. Sorensen was trying to tackle economic problems in New England, that he happened upon the phrase. He writes that he noticed that “the regional chamber of commerce, the New England Council, had a thoughtful slogan: ‘A rising tide lifts all the boats.’” From then on, JFK would borrow the slogan often. Sorensen highlights this as an example of quotes mistakenly attributed to President Kennedy
7-08| 2.8.13 @ 6:59PM
There are hydro electric plants over a century old. The east slope Rockies have enough hydro electric potential (renewable, clean, and cheap) to power the world forever. Transmission line are the only drawback - not because they are logistically possible but because the environmentalists/lawyers would turn the project into "glacial power (slow).
N8tivTxn| 2.8.13 @ 8:31AM
The Congressional debate over whether to export the products of this boom, or not will be worth the price of admission.
Watching our "wise" political representatives writhe, like a snake who's head has just been chopped off, will be somewhat entertaining. I'm sure Madison Ave is working on the PR campaigns, as I write.
Interesting that "the movie", which I refuse to name, seems to be destined to become nothing more than a cult indoctrination film viewed in the basements of the intellectually vapid.
Oh Joy! EPA is slated to roll out a their new agenda within days. Does the regime dare to try to quell this boom, via regs? How can socialist leaning CA shun development with a straight face, given their economic predicament?
Capitalism works, every time it fights free of the restraints imposed government.
JimH| 2.8.13 @ 8:40AM
At some point we will become a net exporter. We will sell oil and gas to China who will pay us with all the increasingly valueless dollars we have been giving them. There will then be people in this country complaining about how the domestic price of gas is kept high because of the exports.
N8tivTxn| 2.8.13 @ 10:39AM
Bingo! But, the public outcry will be deafening, and the regime will enjoy fanning the flames of "consumerism".
Just like the under-informed (collectivist advocating self-described conservatives) who endlessly rail against exporting U.S. agricultural products. Like it or not, we now operate in the world economy, not the North American isolation, of the past.
We pay a lower percentage of our income for necessities of life than any population of the world, yet we're always searching for the next industrial villain to despise, usually because their good business practices are paying off beyond expectation.
I sometimes advise them to invest in related stock, so that they too may participate in the rewards of our productivity. I have yet to find one of them who thinks their product or service should be manipulated so as to give the American consumer a cheaper price. Where is the logic?
MarkJeff| 2.8.13 @ 10:09AM
Oh fear not. We will allow Washington to tax the crap out of any new recovery from here.
pogybait| 2.8.13 @ 10:36AM
In California, wise Democrat leaders proposed heavy fines on the petroleum companies should their obscene earnings rise any higher. If they took it once step further; even after closing all refineries and with the federal government confiscating all of Big Oil’s profits, logic dictates that gas prices would then drop to mere pennies a gallon. Let's face it, most private companies are only out to make a profit and unfortunately they have been for years. Yet, with aggressive taxation and bold new regulations enacted by progressive democrat leaders, we can insure that no oil company ever makes more than the government thinks they deserve.
Arnie| 2.8.13 @ 10:35AM
HA! I read this today, thought you guys might like it. ROFL
http://www.politico.com/story/.....87293.html
One high-profile Republican strategist, who refused to be named in order to avoid inflaming the very segments of the party he wants to silence, said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to “marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots — there’s a lot of underbrush that has to be cleaned out.”
Arnie| 2.8.13 @ 10:38AM
So God made a banker.
God said, “I need someone to build homes in the swamps and deserts using shoddy materials and other people’s money, and then use these homes as collateral for a Ponzi scheme he can sell to pensioners in California and Michigan and Sweden. I need someone who will then foreclose on those homes, kick out the occupants, and switch off the air conditioning and the plumbing, and watch the houses turn back into dirt. And then pay himself another bonus.”
God said, “I need someone to lend money to people with bad credit at 30% interest in order to get his stock price up, and then, just before the loans turn bad, cash out his stock and walk away. And who, when asked later, will, with a tearful eye, say the government made him do it.”
Arnie| 2.8.13 @ 10:39AM
And on the eighth day God looked down on his planned paradise and said, “I need someone who can flip this for a quick buck.”
So God made a banker.
God said, “I need someone who doesn’t grow anything or make anything but who will borrow money from the public at 0% interest and then lend it back to the public at 2% or 5% or 10% and pay himself a bonus for doing so.”
So God made a banker.
God said, “I need someone who will take money from the people who work and save, and use that money to create a dotcom bubble and a housing bubble and a stock bubble and an oil bubble and a commodities bubble and a bond bubble and another stock bubble, and then sell it to people in Poughkeepsie and Spokane and Bakersfield, and pay himself another bonus.”
So God made a banker.
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 3:18PM
And one of the DemocRAT commandments turned up as the Community Reinvestment Act, forcing the banks to make loans to people who could not pay for them. His Lewinskiness Slick Willy Clinton then bade all of the EEEEvil bakers,"You will get creative and finance these cockamamee loans so that we politicians shall look good." Look good they did, until one of those Texas cowboys came along and tried to thwart the outrageous creative financing and ol' Dubya wound up getting blamed for the whole @*#&$"{! mess.
Arnie| 2.8.13 @ 10:39AM
God said, “And I need somebody who will tell everyone else to stand on their own two feet, but who will then run to the government for a bailout as soon as he gets into trouble — and who will then use that bailout money to help elect a Congress that will look the other way. And then pay himself another bonus.”
So God made a banker.
JD| 2.8.13 @ 12:03PM
Since when did government workers start calling themselves "bankers"?
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 12:06PM
Not bad.
For the Adults on this site, go back to little Arnies' Clever Posit, and replace Banker with Democrat Politician.
Or, you can put their names in the blank. Ray Nagin, Charlie Rangel, Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, John Corzine.......the List is Endless.
Actually, we could make a Game of it, as the Pickins are Pretty Slim this Friday.
Let's see who can come up with the best Replacements for BANKER.
Everything else, stays the same.
Thanks, Arnie.
You saved my two index fingers a lot of Typing.
Al Adab| 2.8.13 @ 2:36PM
So this is the contest today. Well in reference to the better thread concerning whiskey/whisky try Ogden Nash
"Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker."
7-08| 2.8.13 @ 3:00PM
"Give me your true love."
Candy
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.8.13 @ 3:16PM
...and Satan said:"Who needs a banker? I create quasi-government agencies that will produce nothing, but encourage bad investment behavior at a massive scale"...
...and we got Fannie Mae...
...and then Satan said "I need a place to park Democratic politicians in between bouts of government service, where they can rake in untold millions in unearned bonuses while failing, screwing up the investment world, after they served in the Justice Department, threatening to sue banks that wouldn't lend to people who were poor credit risks..."
...and Satan got Freddie Mac...
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.8.13 @ 3:19PM
...and then Satan said "I need someone who is ruthless and sociopathic to short sell world currencies. Someone who is so devoid of character and conscience that he would turn on his own people, and help the Nazis count the pilfered loot as they herded his fellow Jew off the the rail cars to the extermination camps..."
and Satan got George Soros...
then Satan got replaced....
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 3:57PM
This is why Albert is a 10 Time Winner, and a Man among Boys.
Albert wins Purp's Butt Plug, that Arnie keeps in his Mouth, when Purp is finished with it.
Congratulations, my friend.
THAT'S The Contest, 7-08.
Tina B| 2.9.13 @ 1:43PM
Oh yeah? Albert, Albert, always Albert.
Just kidding, love you ACJ!
The call of our times requires us to learn that the idea of the individual is a myth, to rediscover our hearts, and to understand that the essential nature of the universe is interdependence.
Patrick Braukmann, Vancouver, Canada, truth seeker and one of the 57
And then God said, "I need someone with stones like my David who took his 5 smooth stones and was able to slay Goliath. I need someone to go to the National Prayer Breakfast and tell that buffoon in charge of America what's what. A man after my own heart, like King David. Not a perfect man, but a powerful dynamic one who doesn't take himself too seriously, and can laugh, and make people laugh with him. Someone who is winsome and speaks with my Spirit and my Power, and who uses my Word as I send it forth to water all the earth. Who will speak it before Presidents and power brokers, and who will serve me with his time, his talents and his treasure.
And God created Dr. Ben Carson.
And God saw that it was good.
Tina B| 2.9.13 @ 1:48PM
Oopsie, part of that was some research on public education and a list of some 57 "visionaries" who are overseeing some of the "spiritual guidance" of our children through curriculum changes happening as we speak.
Start my banker replacement contest entry with
"and then God said. . ."
(As if you didn't already know that.)
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 4:24PM
Yo Al, are youse saying Slick Willy is Satan?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.8.13 @ 10:03PM
No, Moe, merely that he admires Satan (and wants to get some tips on his success with the chicks).
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 8:25PM
So Al, at what point does obama replace Soros?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.8.13 @ 8:51PM
Soros never replaces Obama; Soros placed Obama.
The next thing to look for is Soros' purchase of the Clintons from Riady.
Warrior| 2.8.13 @ 9:15PM
I was looking for clips from my favorite show and look what I found:
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-con.....wilson.jpg
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.8.13 @ 10:02PM
No link to Link is what I think
but what you link is why I drink
mike 3/505| 2.9.13 @ 4:14PM
Did someone say, "drink?"
Warrior| 2.9.13 @ 4:31PM
ACJ is becoming the Dr. Seuss of the TLP contest world.
Bob Grant| 2.9.13 @ 6:14PM
Without AJC there would be no TBAGN.
Bob Grant| 2.9.13 @ 6:13PM
3/505, you're the Dean Martin of this Rat Pack.
Warrior| 2.9.13 @ 10:20PM
And Bob Grant is Richard Gere's gerbil.
Bob Grant| 2.10.13 @ 9:59AM
Warrior,
That was a low blow.
John Navratil| 2.9.13 @ 6:39PM
Has everyone read Noah S. "Soggy" Sweat's 1952 speech on liquor? Mississippi was taxing black market booze and Sweat delivered this gorgeous testimony to political fence sitting.
"My friends, I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey:
If when you say whiskey you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it." ....
John Navratil| 2.9.13 @ 6:40PM
...."But, if when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.
This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise."
TLP| 2.10.13 @ 3:34PM
Tits.
Bob Grant| 2.10.13 @ 4:31PM
TLP,
Methinks you have a slight case of Tourettes.
Louis Jenkins| 2.8.13 @ 11:47AM
Mr. Tucker:
You and I are both in getting long in the tooth. The difference is I don't have drool or spittle running out of the corner of my mouth. It sounds great. In fact, me and an Obama fan had this discussion around a campfire about three weeks ago. He concurred. But you, nor he, are counting the Obama factor, which will include every last tree hugger in the nation, nor the amount of land owned in the west by our US Fed. government, nor the lack of refineries, nor the fact that grain is grown for fuel. So we have a raw product that will remain exactly as it is-Raw. Obama, in order to keep grain prices up, and the price of wind inflated as well, will command that we seek enviromental friendlier ways of producing a milli-watt of power, and the American consumer can keep on dreaming of energy on demand. It just ain't going to happen.
Louis Jenkins| 2.8.13 @ 11:51AM
And remember. Obama said "I have no problem with gas being $10.00 a gallon (or whatever). I'm upset because it has increased too fast."
Remember this too: Gas was $1.83 a gallon when Obama came into office. It has now doubbled and the economists are predicting $4.00 by warm weather.
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 3:22PM
Our Barry was referring to gasoline at $4.00 per gallon. Another caveat in the energy discussion is EPA, bound and determined to have us all riding bicycles instead of scooters.
JohnTee| 2.9.13 @ 12:33AM
I have to agree with Mr. Jenkins. Obama, his environmental looney lobby, and likely his masters don't want the US to become an exporter. It throws their timetable way off. It could well be a life-ring for the bankrupt US and disrupt the economies of Russia and the oil shieks. Obama's record of negative results is tribute to his remarkable achievements. I expect to see more broken glass and hand grenades thrown in the way of independence with regulation, lawsuits and finally punitive taxation to stop progress. Excise taxes, excess profits taxes, infrastructure taxes, you name it. They don't want the US up off the mat and will be willing to fight for it. It was reported last week that while he withholds Federal permits for drilling, he is allowing some of the assets to be sold for capital to the Chinese. We may end up buying our gas from the Chinese.
Kingofthenet| 2.8.13 @ 11:54AM
Never, EVER will the USA become a net 'exporter' and besides 'Energy independence is a joke anyway, better to let Alaskan Oil go to foreign Markets and import to East Coast refineries, it's more efficient that way, because oil is Fungible, I learned that from Grizzly Sarah, don't you know!
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 4:13PM
You saying this, only makes it more certain, that we WILL be a Net Exporter.
JD| 2.8.13 @ 12:04PM
The one thing this article mentioned that's most certain to happen is that Obama will take credit for the economic benefits of fracking.
Jack London| 2.8.13 @ 12:48PM
Not Obama but federal investments in research have been critical to its development.
markenoff| 2.8.13 @ 1:15PM
Prove it.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 4:10PM
I'm assuming that you're not holding your breath.
JD| 2.8.13 @ 1:17PM
BAHAHAHA! Oh, Jack, you are too much!
You cling to your claim that the federal government does all the good in this world with such tenacity!
I found it. Your source. It's a huffpo article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....07178.html
I'll spare you the usual disclaimer about how you Lefties refuse to read anything from Fox News and dismiss it as lies, but then demand that we honor "facts" that come only from the most left-wing sources. Or maybe I won't :)
All the "federal investment" that even Huffpo, with its willingless to stretch the truth, could come up with was:
1. $137 million in federal spending on "gas research" (over three decades)
2. $10 billion in tax credits for "drillers" from 1980-2002.
It also cites the totals of all "energy" tax credits in 2010, as if that's relevant.
Talk about stretching the truth! Even if a reasonable fraction of this generic "research" spending actually went to fracking (a questionable claim), it's still a small fraction of what was spent on Solyndra alone, and a drop in the bucket compared to the overall expenditures required to make fracking a reality. And the tax credits? It's obvious that only the tiniest percentage of them, at best, could be connected to fracking.
JD| 2.8.13 @ 1:18PM
And that's without even bothering to call out the Leftist dishonesty regarding tax code manipulations. While it is true that taxing something less than the taxes on alternatives equates to a subsidy, the mere existence of nominal "tax credits" does not mean that something faces low taxes - not if its rates are otherwise high. Taking credit for creating something just because the industry receives generic "tax credits" is highly dubious.
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 4:08PM
President No Growth already tried to take Credit for Fracking.
He's always using the Private Property Fracking in his "Numbers", when he tells the Jackasses from London that: "We're Drilling more than we ever had".
What a POS.
Him, and Jackass.
gene| 2.8.13 @ 1:07PM
Energy Suggestion? Methane catchers for all Homo Sapiens, Esquian Creatures, Bovine, Porcine, etc.. ALL that produce Methane Gas. Instead of Homo Sapiens going to rest areas to download feces and urine, they will also visit when their Methane Collector is full. They can download, collect credits on a Methane Debit card, contribute to a "greener earth", reduce their carbon footy-print, and even make some cash while saving the planet. People with excessive gas problems would actually be making more money and helping the energy problem. Of course, we would have to fine and/or arrest the Scofflaws who would just pass their Methane off into the atmosphere. Shameful, but true. We can have methane detectors on the street, in restrooms. ESPECIALLY in crowded elevators , subways, and trains to stop these polluters. Yes indeedy. There are patents to be claimed and money to be made here. Someone call Al Gore NOW!! 0:-D
Drunken Sailor| 2.8.13 @ 1:54PM
Just what we need. Another Democrat cause up our ass trying to make a buck.
gene| 2.8.13 @ 1:59PM
The big problem is not that my posting is obvious sarcasm. But that there are Liberal Weinies out there that would actually try and carry out this kind of absurd craziness.
Drunken Sailor| 2.8.13 @ 3:24PM
Exactly right!!
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 4:14PM
Shouldn't you be at the Whiskey Story?
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 4:37PM
He got lost. He's at the Whisky Story.
Drunken Sailor| 2.8.13 @ 5:00PM
This aint it? Must have taken a wrong turn out of the bathroom. Thought that barmaid was uglier than I remembered.
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 3:29PM
Come on Gene, I have been working on a methane reclamation system for years now and you are the first one here who has gone into detail. Not every human being produces methane and it also depends on what you ingest. Legumes, vegetation (broccoli and cabbage are two good ones), and my buttermilk no-plotch pancakes do the trick for me. A few pints of homebrew at the weekend sends my methane production into overdrive. How does one determine if his internal oven cooks up methane, you might ask. If your stools float, you are a global warming threat.
gene| 2.8.13 @ 5:27PM
Then I am a global warming threat.
And my methane is going out, out into the atmosphere.
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 5:54PM
Better to be released into the wide open than kept in the close inside. Phart well, my liegeman.
Pecos Pete| 2.8.13 @ 7:21PM
Pinto Beans, the perfect methane producer!
Who Knows?| 2.8.13 @ 2:55PM
There’s already ample “energy”, above ground, in America, especially, and growing daily, in all developed countries.
Fat is energy, and nowadays even the Chinese population is getting obese.
Besides, surely all the fat people have packed colons, and suffer from a regular excess of farts = natural gas.
We must find a way to “frack” this!
The humor of our energy situation surely hasn’t been mined, and as for appreciated?
Fuggedaboudit!
I bike and walk a lot. It is always such a hoot, for me, to see the tubbies driving these huge boxes of metal. And, then, there are the wised-up ones, who try to stop the weight gaining madness, and join a gym where they can walk on machines that---use energy!
Sitting quietly, spring comes, and grass grows.
And, don’t forget all the “energy” that is wasted with all the idle talk going on, from DC pols spouting nonsense, to average fatsos with cell phones glued to their ears---anything to avoid bodily action.
But, by all means, we’d better not eliminate the illegals who work the fields, using actual physical energy, to bring food to our table.
What a revoltin’ situation!
cicero| 2.8.13 @ 3:20PM
The really hilarious thing about this whole issue is that oil should really be a cause celebre for the tree huggers. Before oil, everyone had to burn wood just to last through the winter. There went the forests. Then, they discovered that you could burn coal for heat, but it wasn't much as far a light was concerned. But that was solved when people found that they could burn whale oil - after they killedd the whales. There went the forests; there went the whales; there came the smog.
And then God allowedd us to discover oil in 1859. Saved the forests; saved the whales; produced much less pollutants than dirty old coal. But then, the do gooders had notheing to occupuy their time and talents with. So they decided that oil was a culprit.
Now they want to do away with oil. They don't like coal even a little bit; nuclear is too dangerous to deal with - after all it will explode and cause mushroom clouds in every neighborhood, Oh, what to do? The obvious nswer is to simply burn all of the food that would otherwise be used to feed the people. Our great, liberal thinkers don't have to worry. They can always go to the restaurant and order a salad.
Drunken Sailor| 2.8.13 @ 3:26PM
I really wish the left would make up my mind. First they tell me to stop killing poor animals and become a vegetarian. Then they start putting my veggies in my fuel tank. What the hell are we supposed to eat?
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 3:32PM
Seaweed.
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 3:47PM
Recycled human waste!
After all, their plans to "fundamentally transform" this country is another way of telling America to Eat S*%t!!!!
TLP| 2.8.13 @ 4:16PM
We already have Recycled Human Waste.
It's called: Liberalism.
Louis Jenkins| 2.8.13 @ 4:27PM
With all the talk about eating human waste, when you go to the seafood counter at your local grocery store, be very cautious. Some of the farm raised (whatever) is from China. What do you think they feed the whatever?
Drunken Sailor| 2.8.13 @ 5:01PM
Brown Trout?
Moe Blotz| 2.8.13 @ 5:55PM
Or lump fish.
Bob Grant| 2.8.13 @ 7:47PM
Dump fish?
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.9.13 @ 3:53PM
Maybe when we become the biggest oil and natural gas producer and exporter then we can take our boot off the neck of the rest of the world. That would be a step in the right direction.
Bob Grant| 2.9.13 @ 6:18PM
DimWitry,
No offense but your naivete is second only to Jackin Wi.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.9.13 @ 9:53PM
I am completely for utilizing our oil and natural gas resources. I have absolutely no problem with it. I don't want us dependent upon the Arabs, or Chavez or anyone else for oil for that matter. I also don't want our current dependency on oil or natural gas ever to be a reason to start a war in, bomb or invade the former Soviet Republics of Central Asia because I have family there and I would never want such a tragedy as has happened in places like Iraq, Libya and Syria to befall them.
Bob K| 2.10.13 @ 9:47AM
I agree that we should utilize our own oil and natural gas resources first before we export them, but I don't think that it is possible. We lack the refining capacity to do it and our environmental regulations have made it nearly impossible to become "energy independent" even in the long run. Even now in PA, in the heart of the Marcellus Shale gas region, pipelines are being built into New Jersey in anticipation of shipping the gas to Europe.
Meanwhile British Petroleum just completed a huge wind farm of more than 80 windmills in NE PA with the capacity to power 40,000 homes per the local paper. Instead of using that power locally it is being sold to the suburbs of Washington DC to supplement the power needs of our nations growing bureaucracy and the headquarters of the many crony capitalist corporations located there.
This is largely coming to pass because of Democratic party policies but there are also powerful factions in the Republican party who also cooperate in these ventures. The Democrats are open about it. The Republicans are running a con job on the electorate!
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.10.13 @ 12:44PM
New refineries would equal new jobs. The town I live in would be dead without the Shell and Tesoro refineries here.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 1:59PM
You live in Martinez Calif?
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.10.13 @ 3:02PM
Yes sir, home of Joe DiMaggio and the Martini.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 3:29PM
Ah the wonderful fragrance of the refineries mixed in with those from ACME landfill and the IT Haz Waste facility.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.10.13 @ 6:04PM
I'm over by the VA hospital, we don't get the fragrances as bad as other parts of Martinez. I like Martinez. I'd rather be back in San Francisco in the avenues like when I was a kid, but if you're going to get stuck in the suburbs you could do a lot worse than Martinez.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 7:27PM
My roots are Potrero Hill, top of the hill above the Anchor Brewery. Grew up in Daly City. Lived at 34th and Taravel for a coupla years commuted north to Novato, then south to Sunnyvale when changed jobs, then landed another job in Oakland. Was able to do the L car and BART for that one. ACME LF was one of my jobsites when I worked at the Novato job.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.11.13 @ 11:48AM
When I was a kid we lived on 22nd and Noriega in the Sunset. I still love the Avenues. From time to time I'll still get breakfast at the Tennessee Grill on Taravel before going to work. I used to enjoy a pint now and then at Shannon Arms as well. I'm still a Sunset kid at heart. I miss the Avenues, I don't care how foggy it gets it still feels like home.
BL in AK| 2.12.13 @ 4:57AM
I used to enjoy a Saturday breakfast at Tennessee Grill as well and a proper pour of Guinness at Shannon Arms on occasion. Yeah, the fog always reminds of Daly City no matter where I am.
cheerz
BL
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.12.13 @ 7:42PM
Cheers
When I think of Daly City I think of West Lake Joe's.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 4:05PM
and the home of the father of the environmental movement, John Muir
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.10.13 @ 6:05PM
I never see anyone visiting his home. I'm sure they get field trips now and then. I've never even visited John Muir's home even though I drive by it everyday.
John II| 2.9.13 @ 4:22PM
Interesting. I waited for more than a whole day to let the comments on Tucker's piece accumulate, and now that there are more than a hundred, I've counted fewer than ten from trolls--all of them lamer than usual, from fewer distinct trolls than usual, and generally off-point anyhow.
There is a pattern here. The more concrete the main post, the less frequent and far less concrete the troll responses.
When I retire next year, I intend to write an academic novel in the tradition of Stringfellow Barr, Kingsley Amis, David Lodge, and a few others, ridiculing the personal foibles underlying the imbecility of the Left. Apart from 45 years of memories, I'll have the troll-droppings of TAS Online for material.
Whoa. That's a LOT of material.
RCV| 2.9.13 @ 8:27PM
And it happened on Obama's watch, which you guys would never acknowledge.
JD| 2.9.13 @ 10:10PM
And that makes TWO despicable leftists trying to give Obama credit. Go read my response to Jack above for a few inconvenient truths.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.10.13 @ 7:52AM
...and isn't it funny that this is the thing that Obama doesn't claim is Bush's fault...
John II| 2.10.13 @ 11:45AM
More precisely, it is happening despite the Professor's preposterous "watch." That was the point of the piece, Roberto.
Solyndra, the whitewashing of Fort Hood, Benghazi, Operation Fast and Furious, minuscule economic growth, permanently high unemployment, federal mandates against religious liberty, and a pervasive debasement of public discourse make up a very short list of what HAS happened "on Obama's watch."
Confucius say: "The small man worries about men not knowing him; the gentleman worries about incapability and ignorance." Thank you so much.
And now back to "Charlie Chan at the Opera" (1936), in which the Oriental Sleuth (Warner Oland) investigates an amnesiac (Boris Karloff) whom he correctly suspects of murder.
RCV| 2.10.13 @ 1:38PM
That's how things always appear thru your distorted lens, Professor: if anything bad happens anywhere in the world, it's Obama's fault. But when oil production flourishes right here in our country under his administration, it's somehow "despite" his policies. Ah, how partisanship can befoul even fine minds like yours, my friend.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 2:04PM
Fracking has been around a long time. But the foresight to utilize it with horizontal drilling came about way before Obamao was in office. So typical, blame the bad stuff, take credit for the good stuff. Sounds like all of my bosses over the years.
John II| 2.10.13 @ 3:47PM
Actually, out of ordinary decency, I kept my list very short--sparing Professor Obama and his crazed acolytes the full force of my indignant rhetoric. And every one of the few items I listed is indisputably traceable to the antics of the worst president in American history, bar none. Yes, even worse than Assistant Professor Carter and Associate Professor Bubba.
And stop calling me "Professor." That's hitting below the belt!
Back now to "Charlie Chan at the Olympics" (1937), in which the Oriental Sleuth travels to Berlin to recover a top-secret aircraft guidance system before it falls into the hands of the Nazi renegade: two years before WWII started and four years before Germany declared war on the US and 24 years before Barack Hussein Obama entered the universe through the back door. I am recapitulating the devolvement of American popular culture to its present tattered estate.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 12:07AM
I love North Dakota. The people are nice, Fargo and Grand Forks are delightful, and I am seriously considering retiring there.
I have a great job here in MN, but MN is NOT a good place to retire. Taxes too high; ND is much better, and in Fargo you can pop across the state line and shop in Moorhead for things that are cheaper in MN.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 5:07AM
Think Fantasy Island:
Boss (TLP) The Train, the train.
So Satan made Warren Buffett.
Satan said, “I need someone who will take the oil from the Alberta and Bakkan fields, and use trains to transport the oil by the most inefficient manner possible to create a fortune for BNR stockholders and keep the XL pipeline from being built to keep his buddy BHO in cohoots with the greenies.
It is time we vet the former gov of ND, now senior senator John Hoeven. He was a banker before he lead ND to being one of the top states to produce crude and get unemployment less than 3%. We ought to grass-root him up through the primaries ourselves, we don't need no stinkin' establishment Rs on the cover of Time magazine (Rubio). Just sayin'
cheerz
BL
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 1:50PM
Sorry about that (hat tip Max "Get Smart")dyslexia always works on me, XL vs Keystone.
Tina B| 2.10.13 @ 7:44AM
For you, BL in AK, lest it get lost above, I will repost in it's proper form:
And then God said, "I need someone with stones like my David who took his 5 smooth stones and was able to slay Goliath. I need someone to go to the National Prayer Breakfast and tell that buffoon in charge of America what's what. A man after my own heart, like King David. Not a perfect man, but a powerful dynamic one who doesn't take himself too seriously, and can laugh, and make people laugh with him. Someone who is winsome and speaks with my Spirit and my Power, and who uses my Word as I send it forth to water all the earth. Who will speak it before Presidents and power brokers, and who will serve me with his time, his talents and his treasure.
And God created Dr. Ben Carson.
Bob Grant| 2.10.13 @ 10:05AM
A thing of beauty, that speech he gave at the prayer breakfast. Not just the speech but how uncomfortable it made obama.
Tina B| 2.10.13 @ 2:38PM
And to watch it up close and personal, O's discomfort so close to Dr Ben's composure and grace.
God bless, Bob.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 3:33PM
Thank you Tina B! I just watched Dr. Carson's speech. It was good to see Obamugabe squirm when Dr. Carson mentioned what lawyers get taught in school, "to win by hook or by crook.."
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 1:57PM
Thanks Tina B, I did notice it earlier. BTW, Mr Hoeven was a former banker. Not sure I want to hat tip arnie for that one though. I guess our friends our digging out from the wrath of Nemo. Maybe Dr. Carson and Mr Hoeven should be invited to the party at Ricky's so we can write The Analogists Conservative Manifesto.
God Bless.
Tina B| 2.10.13 @ 2:36PM
God bless you. And have a powerful week.
BL in AK| 2.10.13 @ 3:38PM
Thank you Tina B. And a powerful week to you!