The American Spectator

Robbins Mitchell| 10.20.10 @ 6:28AM

Well, of course Whoopsy and Joyless were merely grandstanding when they walked off stage....but,hey..if they want to act as stooges for 3rd world midieval barbarism and bow down to a meteorite in the desert by sticking their baggy menopausal asses in the air and wear a hijab (actually a full burka would be an improvement in both cases),then I say go for it...at least that way they would be intellectually honest about who and what they are for once

butterfly53| 10.20.10 @ 8:14AM

Do those 2 liberal women not realize they would be one of the first to be buried up to their necks and stoned to death by those radical islamists/muslims that they walked off the stage for?

Eric Cartman| 10.20.10 @ 9:25AM

Now THAT would get better ratings than the grumpy geriatrics of the View ever got. Wait, maybe that's their plan. Let's hope so.

DG in GA| 10.20.10 @ 10:06AM

Even I would watch THAT episode, and I absolutely HATE "The Spew!!!"

Eric Cartman| 10.20.10 @ 1:56PM

Ever see Hotel Hell? It's a riot! But to the point: Seeing Behar and Whoopie buried up to their necks and their skulls being ripped apart by jagged stones while they squirm around? Priceless. I mean, WHO wouldn't want to see that?

voted against carter| 10.20.10 @ 4:09PM

Sign me up! I would STAND IN in line for THIS! How soon are they planning the show? Sweeps week?

MacDaddy| 10.20.10 @ 4:09PM

Not cool, Cartman. Not cool at all. We need to be at a higher level, man. If you can't keep to the facts and avoid spewing such nonsense as this, just keep your hands off the keyboard, dude. We are trying to have a serious discussion here, and you betray your ignorance by coming out with this nonsense. Get some help, dude.

Rev. Jesse Jackson| 10.21.10 @ 12:03AM

MacDaddy,
I believe Eric is trying to make the point that when we are ruled by Muslims one day, there will be some consolation (not much, but a little) seeing the Liberals and homos and Hollywood trash getting stoned by the very Muslims that they helped put in power. Appeasement is feeding the crocodile in hopes that he'll eat you last. No, Hollywood whores, the Taliban will kill you first for whoring around, committing adultery, posing in the nude, and for being queer. Maybe you're the one who needs help, MacDaddy. Get some help, Dude.

wallyintouch| 10.20.10 @ 9:55PM

Actually it was Motel Hell.

Alan Brooks| 10.20.10 @ 9:44PM

If Muslims killed us on 9-11, then did Germans kill tens of millions in the '40s?
Or was it National Socialists who were culpable?

IMKessel| 10.20.10 @ 10:24PM

Germans!

Gran Torino| 10.21.10 @ 12:08AM

Alan Brooks,
Stop with the PC and hair-splitting. They were Muslims. Was Bill O'Reilly saying that ALL Muslims are devils? Obviously not. Guess what? The Muslims don't need your help. Quit trying to appease them. Quit being a pussy.

Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 12:17AM

"IMKessel| 10.20.10 @ 10:24PM
Germans!"

Torino says enough with PC and hairsplitting. Is it hairsplitting to write that atrocities such as William Calley's in 'Nam were not American atrocities?
In fact, the Mai Lai massacre wasn't even Calley's; those way under his command were doing the raping, torturing, killing.

But it all depends whose ox is gored (no pun intended).

LarryK| 10.21.10 @ 12:30PM

You have to say "The Germans" because every german knew that "something" was going on at the death camps. Trains passed our town loaded with hundreds of "undesirables" and they came back through empty. A 24x7 operation. Where were they taking them? Disneyworld?

What a joke some people are!

Tomas| 10.21.10 @ 3:58PM

Nice try, Alan.

We were attacked by Al-Queda on 9/11. Are all Muslims in Al-Queda? No. Are all in Al-Queda Muslims? Yes.

Likewise, the world was attacked in the 1940s by National Socialists. Were all Germans National Socialists? No. Were all National Socialists Germans? Yes.

You should stop using tautology is a form of argument structure, Alan. It makes you look stupid.

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Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 11:51PM

"Were all National Socialists Germans?"

No, there were many National Socialists in various European nations.

Don L| 10.20.10 @ 6:45AM

Bill is just a victim of what has become very clear about 2010 America. It's not our (fore)father's country anymore. We are living under the combined weight of a secular/leftist/elitist force that I believe can best be expressed by paraphrasing Ike. It's the Dem/ GOP/media complex and it (all of it) is controlling and killing America. The last thing any part of it wants, or will allow, is the (teaparty) citizens to actually take control of their nation.

Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 12:40AM

"It's not our (fore)father's country anymore."

And foremothers, too. Betsy Ross and Dolley Madison count as progenitors, too. More & more I see what a remarkable shortage of fairness and compassion your kind display. You might be Rightists but you are not real Christians.

GavInTucson| 10.21.10 @ 2:02AM

I like to use the term "The Founders" myself, perhaps partially for the reasons you mentioned. But mainly because most of the "Fore Fathers" were married. And virtually anyone that's married knows that your better-halves do influence your thinking.

Lawler Nicoteri| 10.20.10 @ 6:58AM

Word to Whoopi and the Other Hag:

It wasn't the Amish who took down the Twin Towers you blithering idiots.

Texas Mom 2012| 10.20.10 @ 12:12PM

Thank you! LOL

Oldefarte| 10.20.10 @ 3:04PM

Shhhhhh, they might realize their ability to act ''''''STUPIDLY''''''!!!!!!!!

Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 12:47AM

Not to mention your ability to act unchristianly.
I'm ashamed of you and your sort of people-
you have little sense of proportion, of justice itself.
You don't have to like Islam; it is permissible to destroy all terrorists and bomb other nations in doing so. However you are coldblooded; heartless.

I am not your enemy, nevertheless I do not trust you, and am ashamed to be American if you truly represent America. Why am I obliged to represent a reptile, a wolf in Christian's clothing, such as you?

JF| 10.21.10 @ 1:26PM

Who is asking you to "represent" anyone but yourself? And if you ever read anything Jesus said, you might note that he suffered fools lightly as well. He didn't have a lot of good to say about lawyers, either. BTW, I'm Jewish, but I am at least somewhat informed as to the rest of the world, unlike you.

Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 11:56PM

"Who is asking you to 'represent' anyone but yourself?"

The GOP pushes its party-line very hard, what with Reagan's 11th Commandment-- the Commandment that gave us the Bushes.
As for being Jewish, why should I care about your own Jewishness? we are total strangers and shall remain so.

Ret. Marine| 10.20.10 @ 7:09AM

These two heifers are so far up their own arses they'll never understand what most of us understood regarding this event, it's called religious intolerance. You can't fix stupid and these two are no exception.

Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 12:51AM

I don't agree; criticizing Whoopi for her "rape-rape" related remarks concerning Polanski was much more on- target.
John Caldera (Independence Institute, Golden) is correct:
"never underestimate a Republican's ability to shoot himself in the foot."

And Caldera is no "lib'ral"

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 10.20.10 @ 7:14AM

The View is TV trash, hosted by TV trash types. The intellectual capacity on the show couldn't be measured because there isn't any.

It's a show designed for female moochers who want to sit around all day and fantasize about their "equality."

Red Bubba| 10.20.10 @ 8:46AM

Well said BHO. It is a very important show.

LarryK| 10.20.10 @ 9:07AM

How dare you denigrate those pillars of intellectual superiority on The View.

After all it is "The(ir) View".

Bwhaaaa!

scotchieguy| 10.20.10 @ 8:30PM

Quite literally the most inane show since Gilligan's Island, OK, maybe since Springer. Not only are these bimbos really leftist, and stupid, they are also beyond obnoxious, and really pretty cruel. The left is filled w/ people like that--condescending, snide, sarcastic, and cruel. And wrong as always. No wonder they air the show on weekdays in the morning.

Alan Brooks| 10.21.10 @ 1:00AM

No one is seriously (save for FIST (the old ANSWER Commie-front org) saying you can't bomb countries, killing many civilians to get at terrorists. There are no substantial protests apart from the Web (because a protester doesn't get his head clubbed on the web).
But you have little Christian compassion.

What kind of people are you?

GavInTucson| 10.21.10 @ 2:31AM

A show designed for female moochers?

You're painting with an awfully broad brush, as you seem to imply that all women that stay at home aren't "working." I hope you don't think that women who aren't out there engaging in mindless corporatism aren't working.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 10.21.10 @ 5:40AM

To: GavInTucson: I only implied that to people who believe it deep down inside but don't have the nerve to say it. Like you for instance.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 10.21.10 @ 5:40AM

To: GavInTucson: I only implied that to people who believe it deep down inside but don't have the nerve to say it. Like you for instance.

JF| 10.21.10 @ 1:29PM

Any woman who is wasting her time and brain cells watching The View isn't working. Nor should she - she would be a liability anywhere she was planted.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 10.20.10 @ 7:14AM

The View is TV trash, hosted by TV trash types. The intellectual capacity on the show couldn't be measured because there isn't any.

It's a show designed for female moochers who want to sit around all day and fantasize about their "equality."

Red Bubba| 10.20.10 @ 8:47AM

...because many of the viewers vote twice.

Texas Mom 2012| 10.20.10 @ 12:16PM

They succeeded in changing the subject. Orginally the discussion was about whether the GZ mosque should be be built there and they successfully changed the conversation to whether we have to add terrorist every time we mention that all the 911 guys were muslims... Sigh...

EricTheRedVM| 10.20.10 @ 7:18AM

The only thing more ludicrous than the dangerously braindead Whoops and Joyless walking off the stage was the dangerously braindead audience that was cheering them on. G0d help us all.

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Louis Jenkins| 10.20.10 @ 8:04AM

"How much politics we want involved in September 11th? I don't want any. "

Bless my soul! They don't want any politics involved. I agree. There should not be any politics. We should ascend beyond, and declare war (Bush already has) on the whole kit known as Islam. The level of war that we have been playing is of a lower level, and not what we are capable of. So let the old bizzy lizzies walk off the stage. Who really gives a care?

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.20.10 @ 8:08AM

Aaron,
Well spoken, Sir.

On November 3rd or 4th we shall see if we have an awakened citizenry.

If we do not, I fear for our children's future.
They will probably face three Satanic religions in every classroom and on every playground and video game.
1. Islam
2. Earth worship (Greens)
3. Social Justice

davelnaf| 10.20.10 @ 8:29AM

Liberalism’s ever evolving need to find and report alleged abuses done to people of color by white people was at the heart of Behar and Goldberg’s reaction to O’Reilly’s statement. The issue with these two, like the political religion they worship, was a matter of who was making the charge. If another Muslim had come on the View and said Muslims killed Americans on 9/11 their reaction would have been much more muted, if not nonexistent. As it was their reaction was another fine example of liberalism’s slow and steady progress toward total meltdown.

Curly Smith| 10.20.10 @ 8:32AM

Goldberg and Behar are stereotypical liberals. They explained walking of the set as "sometimes you have to stand up to a bully". Yeah, they stood up and ran away. The GZM is the more of the same. Behar and her ilk know that it will be seen by the "radicals" as a monument to their murder of 3,000 Americans and that it will be a rallying cry to murder more Americans. But the "radicals" haven't given permission to oppose the GZM so Goldberg and Behar must run away. It's a long standing practice that liberals will only "speak truth to power" when power permits them to speak. They "boldly" stood up to Bush because they knew that Bush wouldn't respond. Where are they now that Barry and his Thugs are running the show? Oh, right, they've bravely walked off the set and left the cowardly unenlightened bigoted fools to do the heavy lifting.

pigletrios| 10.20.10 @ 1:59PM

They are both a pair of morons!

David W| 10.20.10 @ 8:34AM

A request to Mr. Goldstein and any other author at The Am Spectator. Many may have missed what Ms. Goldberg said during the brouhaha - "What about Timothy McVeigh?" In other words, Mr. McVeigh was the "Christian" version of the 9/11 suicide bombers. Now I know that thinking is insane, yet I have heard this on several occassions. Can someone write an article that outlines the reasoning behind McVeigh's attack and how Christianity had nothing to do with it? Then, when some nut like Whoopi brings that up again, we can call them a lying moron and give them the exact reasons why (after all, there is nothing a liberal hates more than real facts that are supported by real facts).

DCSKIHOG| 10.20.10 @ 9:58AM

Comparing Timothy McVeigh , mastermind of the Oklahoma "man made disaster", with his tepid endorsement of Catholicism, to Islamic terrorists is not only highly offensive, but its also a wildly flawed comparison. Even if you set aside the evidence and consider McVeigh Christian, he did not blow up the federal building because Christianity preaches and condones murder. Christ did not promise heaven to his apostles if they died while battling infidels. Nor are there existing Christian sects actively seeking to overthrow every world government run by secular laws, offering a choice of either execution or conversion to every citizen of those governments. Contrast this with militant Islamic groups like Al Quaeda who maim, murder, and make war not in spite of their religion, but expressly because of their religion. The final goal of their Jihad is the destruction of every world government that does not embrace Muslim Shaira law and the choice of conversion to Islam or death.

Texas Mom 2012 | 10.20.10 @ 12:21PM

And his focus (evil) was focused on the Feds not all Americans. Still twisted and evil but not focused on all Americans like binLaden. His result did kill children as well but this was not done for the cause of Jesus or in the quest of forcibly converting everyone to his religious beliefs...

George S| 10.20.10 @ 11:07AM

The first thing a prosecutor does is create a narrative explaining the reason for the crime, or the motive. Once that is established, the next step is the opportunity, i.e., the disproving of any alibi, and then the means to commit the crime. Given those three elements, it becomes easy for a jury to process the circumstantial evidence instead of dismissing it as coincidental or accepting a frame up "why me?"defense.

So, what was McVeigh's motive? To avenge the Waco debacle, which culminated from his hatred of the federal government. Did he have the opportunity? Yes, he was caught fleeing the scene a short time later and there was a time line established of his renting the rental vehicle, picking it up and being seen in it -- all adding up to the opportunity. Did he have the means to put together the materials and have the requisite knowledge to implement the explosive? Well, this is where is gets sketchy because there was a strong suspicion that he had outside help. The cynic might say we didn't want to dig into that for fear of who, in addition, may turn up. It does sort of explain the record time between conviction and execution.

However, nowhere in the evidence against him, particularly motive-wise, was religion extremism entertained. If it was, you would have been hearing about it constantly. Instead, Clinton was happy to ascribe the motive to Rush Limbaugh and the conservative "hate" radio. Where were the outraged editorials against Christian militia being in cahoots with McVeigh? Where in the trial transcripts is it noted? The prosecution needed all the evidence they could against him because the defense was making some headway into challenging the eyewitness time line, the motives of McVeigh's friends who claimed he showed them the bomb materials and the discovery that the FBI lab was less than meticulous with the evidence (fortunately, the judge limited the defense in exploring that avenue). That's probably why the prosecution strategy (brilliant, IMO) was to intersperse technical testimony with the survivor's horror stories at the time of the attack. If there was religious extremism involved, the testimony would have been introduced. With extreme prejudice. It wasn't. Therefore the View gals are just making childlike sing-song retorts.

RacerJim| 10.20.10 @ 12:13PM

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WAKE UP| 10.21.10 @ 12:10AM

It's really simple: one or two McVeighs in a democracy are NOTHING compared to a theocratic polity where it's REQUIRED of everybody that they must hate others, and use violence.

John Macgregor| 10.20.10 @ 8:38AM

What I remember so well (because of its impact) was reporters going to Iraq before the military conflict, showing footage of the building coming down and people jumping from 100 stories to imminent death, and then asking Muslims if Osama was a good muslim.....they thought for a minute and invariably answered: yes. That is the story.

JQPublic| 10.20.10 @ 8:49AM

When I would complain that someone wronged me, my mother always told me to consider the source. Considering the source of this episode, the actions are just want we would expect. The poor, sad, pitiful and pitiable souls searching for attention even if they have to show how foolish they are to get it.

C. S. P. Schofield| 10.20.10 @ 9:39AM

The Political Left desperately wants to keep people from making a cold comparison between Islamic barbarism and western civilization. This is because on some level that are aware that if people get used to making comparative judgments about cultures then Multiculturalism is D*E*A*D. Since Multiculturalism is the foundation of their anti-colonial, warm and fuzzy Statist idiocy, its death would be a BAD THING. If you insist on really examining the culture of, say, the Peoples' Republic of China, the attitude of the Left toward the Communist State there becomes morally reprehensible instead of morally superior, and that would be JUST DREADFUL.

This need to keep from examining their positions from the past is driving the Left into positions that are more and more surreal, like pretending that radical Islam is less of a threat than the people who are outraged by it.

Stephanie| 10.20.10 @ 10:37AM

I believe the powers that be in Germany have just said that "multiculturalism" is a failure.
Are we behind the times, or what? Is Barry not reading the news?

RCV| 10.20.10 @ 12:39PM

I think he's probably not looking to Germany for guidance on how to deal with national minorities.

Fionnagh| 10.20.10 @ 3:41PM

Unfortunately, sooner than later, Muslims will not be a national "minority."

GavInTucson| 10.21.10 @ 2:44AM

Or, as Obama would say, "All those typical white people."

GavInTucson| 10.21.10 @ 2:48AM

Sorry, couldn't resist. Parts of Obama's grandmother have yet been scraped from the bus under which he threw her.

Anthony| 10.20.10 @ 10:12AM

There's plenty of blame to go around with this abysmal demonstration of modern day civility and intellectual discourse.
Behar and Goldberg are representative of the mindless left that wander the earth with their small heads full of platitudes. In their world there is no room for discourse, but then again, "The View" is not a program dedicated to intellectual thought. It is a catty, intellectually vacant, gossip show, a shining example of modern day elitist leftist feminism. Maureen Dowd would fit in perfectly.
O'Reilly, for his part, tried to be civil, however, he was not well armed with facts to make his point. While he did say that Muslims have the right to build the mosque, he failed to point out how many mosques already exist in NYC, and that the issue was one of sensitivity to those 3,000 who died at the WTC. Location, location, location; that's the point here, not the straw dog leftist argument of the right to worship. He might also have made the point that the imam's intentions are less than honorable and discussed his radical past.
That said, no minds would have been changed, nor would any thoughtful discussion have ensued. The show is as substancial as cotton candy.
At least Walters had the decency and the presence to admonish the twin idiot sisters and the fools in the audience as to what common basic civility demands.
All in all, it was a disgusting demonstration of how low we have devolved as a culture and society.
The Roman's, to their credit, never pretended that the "games" be anything other than base entertainment. The lefties on "The View" haven't seen the memo.

Texas Mom 2012| 10.20.10 @ 12:26PM

I have heard O'Reilly make your points many times on his program. The two cowards who walked out managed to successfully Change the dialogue from discussion about the GZMosque to a discussion about 'politically correct' speech. The PC police won because no real discussion was allowed about the GZMosque... Arghhhh

GavInTucson| 10.21.10 @ 3:18AM

A minor point of contention regarding Leftists; the only time you'll hear them defend the right to worship is when it doesn't involve Christianity.

If a child brings a Qur'an (sp) into a school, it isn't a problem. But bring a Holy Bible into a school and they'll scream "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE," confiscate the bible, and possibly expel the student. The parents might even get a note from the ACLU.

It's kind of perverse, really. If Sharia Law were imposed on the United States tomorrow, the liberals would be the first to fall under the sword, as radical Muslims view them as godless, nonreligious infidels. Christians would get a temporary pass, but only briefly.

Padoux| 10.20.10 @ 10:30AM

Behar is fluff, an airhead, a gossip monger, whose opinion is worthless. O' Reilly would do well to avoid her program.

Stephanie| 10.20.10 @ 10:40AM

I've never understood why he goes on that show. A glutton for punishment perhaps? The way he on his own show gives obama a pass, quite frequently in fact, makes me wonder.

canuckistani| 10.20.10 @ 12:04PM

He goes on because he is a clown like the rest of them.
Why do we even begin to appraise the apparent pluses and minuses of anyone on TV? They get paid a lot of cash to pander to their targets. That's all.
They all do it, and none of us has any clue whether or not they actually believe the crap coming out of their mouths.
The bottle blondes on FNC, and Gretchen Carlson's particular abandonment of reason to stay on the morning show with those two idiots is enough evidence for me the money is the only driver for these people, perhaps malignant narcissism a close second.
Roman's knew bread and circuses were the only salves to restless natives, and we are the new natives being pandered to.

caitlin| 10.20.10 @ 11:47AM

It's all for the money like any publicity stunts are. Earlier, Don L. wrote: "It's the Dem/GOP media complex and it (all of it) is controlling and killing America."
Too right. If Fox News and conversly any left wing news source were to be truly fair and balanced there wouldn't be any reason for viewers to watch one show over the other. The media, all of it, plays us all against each other by preying on our different ways of looking at the world.

canuckistani| 10.20.10 @ 12:13PM

Bang on, Caitlin.
The real human interest story of the Chilean miners was fascinating to watch. BBC, AP and even CNN played it pretty straight, delving only partially into collateral irrelevant issues like political posturing and "mistresses". Rick Sanchez would have been frothing at the mouth....
FNC fell over themselves on the ludicrous points and even tried to make a point that American "capitalist" know-how contributed to the rescue, and no mention whether this American-knowhow contributed to the collapse in the first place.
It was unseemly and actually creepy to know we could find a way to spin a decent story like that.
Are we that insecure to not appreciate a good story if it doesn't occur in a red state without embellishing it?

Mike Giles| 10.20.10 @ 2:54PM

FNC fell over themselves on the ludicrous points and even tried to make a point that American "capitalist" know-how contributed to the rescue, and no mention whether this American-knowhow contributed to the collapse in the first place.

The mine is owned by the Chilean Government, so no American Capitalism had nothing to do with the disaster. However the equipment, invented and produced by American Capitalism had much to do with the miners rescue.

Mike Giles| 10.20.10 @ 2:57PM

The above should read : "So no, American Capitalism......".

Nancy in NC| 10.20.10 @ 5:36PM

Don't sound so sad that you can't blame the mine disaster on the USA.

Perusha| 10.20.10 @ 12:03PM

Democrats---the Vanguard of Islam

There are just so many distinctions without a difference, these days, that it’s hard to know where to focus. Also, since we awaken every day to a new reality---think of it as the Absolute Radiant Transcendental Reality changing like when one presses the refresh icon on a web page---which is indeed what re-incarnation is smoothly about, the thought hopper must be totally in the NOW.

That necessarily means that previously learned facts tend to be crowded out. Just as the overweening expansion of mob power = government crowds out individuals in the economic marketplace, RIGHT NOW we are suffering the loss of remembrance of BASIC things past.

I, personally, was just reminded of this, by Andrew McCarthy of NRO, as he expounded on a 1954 piece of writing by the inestimable Bernard Lewis, and what Robert Spencer, as well, has written concerning the essence of Islam.

This is currently oh-so-painfully existentially pertinent, given the brouhaha Bill O’Reilly caused when he, from his position as top media dog, excoriated Islam on the TV show, The View.

Islam is STILL defined by its own core tenets as a mostly this-worldly political movement, merely USING all the religious trappings about virgins, et al, which is Absolutely bent on totally taking over the world!

Islam is totalitarianism!

What is the dominant event, right NOW? The American election.

And, since attention on all the thousands of individual races is so prevalent, the “eyes” of us all are being sucked into the vacuum “cleaner” that eschews concerns of Islam.

We all love to celebrate the “win” in The Wizard of Oz, to wit pulling the curtain back to expose the wicked witch of the North. However, the most amazing “race” of humans is at once distracted by a “real” witch story in Delaware AND the ongoing string pulling by the TRUE witches who are STILL behind the curtain!

Yes, when even a “wise” man like Charles Krauthammer remains in the dark about Islam, all one can do is understand the many millions of other fooled people, up and down the power chain. This ABSOLUTELY bodes suicidally ill for humanity.

What will it take for a solid majority of non-Muslims to wake up? Also, isn't the only humane conclusion a present day Muslim can come to, if and when THEY truly understand their "religion's" core beliefs, is to leave that "religion"?

Talk about an inescapable either-or!

Actually, here is a most un-politically correct question---

Ask all “Krauthammer” types if they think all people who are Muslims, in their bottom line heart of hearts, would most wish that ALL humans were also Muslim? Of course THEY DO!

NOW---the true Muslim believers ARE the extremists, and they are the vanguard of that religion, whose ONLY goal is to TAKEOVER the whole world.

From any individual Muslim’s point of view---say an Obama, who thinks the call to Muslim prayer is the sweetest sound---isn’t it obvious? They want you to “enjoy” their own BLISS!

Think of then as Jesus freaks on steroids, armed---soon with nukes?---with modern weapons.

Are you scared, yet?

canuckistani| 10.20.10 @ 12:42PM

No, I'm not.
I'm more afraid of what you and your band of freaks would contemplate to limit this so called menace. Legal remedies or simple torch-bearing lynch mobs?
Don't you get it? Europe is dead, and the influx of Muslims is just the logical end to their pitiful hegemony that started with the 1914 bullet. Euro wombs are barren, the eastern bloc is a wasteland and Muslims are simply moving in.
But here's the thing, we have nothing to fear, if we remain true to our beliefs about reason, competition and a pride in our purposely secular constitution.
If you notice that there has been zero innovation out of the muslim world, and the mental imprisonment of half of their population are competitive advantages for the US. The economic state of these countries is dismal, and the purging of royal families will occur just as it did in Europe over the last 100 years. Some will choose fascist solutions, others will reach out for more reasoned solutions.
Our opposition to Islam should be based on one question: why do we deal with them? Oil and the Pal-Israel thing. Eliminate one or both of these facts over the next 30 years and we regain our focus. Until then, freedom and rule of law will have to carry the day. Bombing 1.5B people is probably unworkable.

caitlin| 10.20.10 @ 12:59PM

I'm not afraid, either. I believe in the people, all of us, that make our country what it is. The Tea Party, the GOP , the Dems, the RINOs, the CINOs, the progressives, and all the rest may disagree and call names, but ( and this may come as a surprise to some of you), we all love America and will nothing tear it down. That sounds simplistic, I know, but it's the bottom line.

dw| 10.20.10 @ 1:55PM

You are either stridently Naive or denser than a rock or a combination of both.

Perusha| 10.20.10 @ 2:05PM

Who you calling a freak, my friend?

As far as your analysis of Europe goes, we’re pretty much in synch. I think Mark Steyn nailed it all in his book, “America Alone”.

However, unless and until a solid majority of Americans come to finally realize that the religion of Islam is self-defined (in its own seminal words) in TOTAL opposition to all people who aren’t die hard Muslims, what we will inevitably have is a mishmash of muddy thinking that makes stupid statements about killing all 1.5 billion adherents to that religion.

Also, despite the fact that Islam is indeed a barren basket case that couldn’t even begin to make a car, say, the world economic system is inextricably connected, for better or worse. So, since we don’t want another Depression, isolationism is NOT an option, either.

Look, here’s the thing. There are two classes of people who fully know the truth about Islam.

The leaders of the “extremists”, represented in the highest position by Osama bin Laden, get it, in nihilistic spades. Islam DOES desire, in a life AND death mode of action, to be a total worldwide monopoly---a totalitarian regime. That’s the unvarnished TRUTH!

And then, there are the non-Muslims, those who know THIS.

Now, I’d guess that, what, 5-10% of non-Muslims are in the latter group. Am I overestimating this percentage---probably.

Here’s the spit kicker: likely a large majority of humans who practice the Muslim “faith”---well brainwashed all---are just go along to get along types, like most “followers” of ALL religions. Whatever human situation one is born into, each one soon enough learns that it’s a survival issue, to find out how to belong to the dominant GROUP that exists.

Thus, essentially, IMHO the vast, VAST majority of Muslims AND non-Muslims are simply IGNORANT of the basic truth about Islam.

Now, starting from this understanding, we can all argue about what to DO to remedy the apparent surge in population growth by Muslims, most ominously led by the true believers leading them to trying to take over the whole world.

Of course, with Western Civilization more and more resembling a cornered rat, with Islamic terror coming at it from more and more angles---warfare AND lawfare, AND?—what else, besides playing whack-a-mole against the worst INDIVIDUALS, say with predator attacks, must it do?

We must ALL become radicals!

“Radical” means “root”. So, it behooves all awake non-Muslims to return to the roots of the current appearance of Shiva, the Destroyer---modern Islam, which is rooted TOTALLY in what Mohamed truly based his startup one-and-only true religion on.

There is truly only ONE answer to the question of how to “reform” Islam, so that it is as benign as a well-dressed Mormon going door to door to try to nonviolently TRY to make converts.

A majority of MUSLIMS must be educated about their basic tenets, AND repudiate them!

Just think---the most honest thing we can NOW say is that famous converts to Islam, like a Cassius Clay – Mohamed Ali or a Lew Alcinder – Kareem Abdul Jabaar, are NOT real Muslims! If they were, they’d be joining bin Laden, or at least financially supporting the cause and/or trying to get converts!

So, “convert or die”, as an admonition, verily faces EVERY fooled Muslim, as well as non-Muslims, in the view of the true adherents of Islam, what we now pejoratively label as “extremists”.

The “Time for Truth” has arrived, a la William Simon, wrt Islam!

jack| 10.20.10 @ 12:31PM

The only way to beat them is wage war on them as we did on Japan. We must do this and then those we are attacking will stop the terrorists. Thats the way it works. Why is one US soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq when we could raze them overnight?
The middle east mind does not work like ours. They hate those who appease or try to make deals,it is a sign of weakness to them and they hate us for it. The more we appease the more the hatred grows. They do not respect strength as much as the use of strenght. This madness will not end till we level at least one country. If we dont have the guts or will to do something this horrible,the terrorists win.
There is ample documentation that Timothy V spent time in Philipines with AlAquaeda,see 1000 years for Revenge. Remember the first day of OKC,there were many reports of a middle eastern looking man? Clinton and his gang of appeasers wanted this stopped at our border.

Ark Ashamed of Bill| 10.20.10 @ 12:49PM

How can we possibly have an intelligent discussion of 9/11 without discussing Hillary crony Jamie Gorelick’s so-called wall of separation between intelligence and law enforcement at FBI headquarters that kept the FBI from seeking a search warrant for the contents of Zacarias Moussaoui’s personal computer as discussed in Chapter 1 of Richard Gid Powers, “Broken: The Troubled Past and Uncertain Future of the FBI” (New York: Free Press, 2004), among other places?

Gorelick’s “wall” was the natural result of the masochistic hypertolerance espoused by the contemporary American Left, including the women mentioned here by Mr. Goldstein. It’s obvious that the Left doesn’t want to have a full discussion of 9/11 because al Qaeda’s success was largely made possible by its worldview and policies.

9/11 is best seen as a bipartisan failure of Big Government to fulfill its obligation to protect the American people. George W. Bush should have abolished Gorelick’s wall as one of his first official acts.

dnha14| 10.20.10 @ 1:14PM

I hate to act close minded, because I really am not, but when Alicia Menendez shows up on O'Reilly I change the channel. I just can't listen to her tripe. At lease Fox can really claim to be fair and balanced when they have guests such as Ms. Menendez offering differing, if not irrational, points of view.

Allison| 10.20.10 @ 1:16PM

To anyone who has seen the whole segment, did you hear the audience applause both sides? There should be an IQ test before admittance for speculation OR a seat at that sad donkey table.

vtwin| 10.20.10 @ 1:20PM

Mc Veigh did it to protest Bush's stealing the election. I do not approve what he did but I can understand it. Can you teabaggers?

skip| 10.20.10 @ 4:20PM

I have to give you credit. You have consistently, without deviation, shown yourself to be an asswipe with every post.

vtwin| 10.20.10 @ 1:25PM

Ok,I've just been told the bombing was in '95. so my theory proves momentarily unfounded. Doesn't matter, Mc Veigh did it because he was a christian nut, a teabagger before his time.

dw| 10.20.10 @ 1:58PM

Your last two post says all anyone need say about you...facts stand in the way of your blathering.

Fred| 10.20.10 @ 2:39PM

C'm0n. This was writ ironical, right?

Bob S| 10.20.10 @ 2:43PM

v-knucklehead: Buzz off, troll.

Animator Girl| 10.21.10 @ 1:16PM

LOL. You're hilarious.

Typical lib:

1) Make unfounded claim that fits preferred narrative.
2) Get corrected.
3) Claim facts don't matter, narrative paramount.

Profit!

Allison| 10.20.10 @ 1:38PM

A bombing does not a tea-bagger make. Protesting and exercising freedom of speech without acts of terrorism connotes tea-bagging, not McVeigh's behavior.

Nechama| 10.20.10 @ 1:46PM

The real tragedy is that even after 9/11 our leaders & media negiligently refuse to educate themselves about islam. When hassan shot up Fort Hood, some reporters, bewildered, wondered "why?" I screamed at my TV, "because he's muslim!" As long as we remain in blissful ignorance, we are literally in mortal danger.

Mike Giles| 10.20.10 @ 3:16PM

It's not that they don't know, it's that they don't want to know. Admitting that they know would require them to do or say something, and the left when it isn't cheering the IslamoNuts on, is deathly afraid of them. They gotten use to cheers of attacking targets that can't or won't strike back. Burning down a compound full of women and children is more their speed. Not saying something that might cause some Muslim to put a knife in you. And think how many on the left are public personas. Movie stars, newscasters, musicians, public intellectuals; people whose faces are known from one side of the planet to the other. They're scared, pure and simple.

Fionnagh| 10.20.10 @ 3:47PM

Mr. Giles, your post nailed it. First and last lines in particular.

Jeremiah| 10.20.10 @ 1:51PM

Once more, the troll vtwin displayed his abyssal ignorance of even the most known facts in American history. OKC bombing was in 1995 and President Bush was elected in 2000. At least the "teabaggers" try not to look like dumb liberal bikers, they tend to think before they write.

John W. Holmes| 10.20.10 @ 1:51PM

I resent the insults to Joy and Whoopi. I dated them both, although not at the same time, and will say that they are very, very fine ladies, cultured, refined, intelligent, educated, and were willing to commit any and every filthy and indecent act ever conceived. And that was just in conversation.

LieDetector| 10.20.10 @ 4:15PM

The reason they espouse their idiotic drivel is likely due to the unlikelihood any real man would ever want to have sex with them. And it was comical to note the clothes they each wore came from 'Tents R Us'. Who was fooled by those billowing monstrosities they wore?

vtwin| 10.20.10 @ 1:55PM

wow! are you THE John Holmes? The famous porn star? I had most of your movies but they are on VHS tapes. I remember Butt Garage, a good flick.

Joy| 10.20.10 @ 1:59PM

"...all I know, is that I know NOTHING"
Is what I should have said on our dates John.

John W. Holmes| 10.20.10 @ 2:04PM

Joy, those were some hot hard heaving nights we had together, tussling till dawn in that slimy roach motel. It was clear then that you knew less than nothing, were, in fact, brain dead, but it's what got me so hot, what I so loved about you, sweet cheeks.

dw| 10.20.10 @ 2:10PM

When the idiot Alicia Menendez says religion should not be considered in the rememberance of 911 she, as all good liberals do, ignores the fact that it is the radical muslim who makes ignoring the religious element impossible. They have mutated their religion to justify the murder of countless innocents, including those of 911.
We are at war with the extremist members of a religion. Deny that fact at our peril.

Joy| 10.20.10 @ 2:11PM

I just wish we didn't share the same genitalia Mr. Holmes...alright, I'm off to run for mayor of NobodyLikedMeinHighSchoolandITalkAboutitAlltheTimeville

Joe Schmuckatelli| 10.20.10 @ 3:07PM

To paraphrase the Whoopster; the 9-11 attackers weren't "Muslim" Muslims.

And she is not a "retarded" retard.

Oldefarte| 10.20.10 @ 3:09PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czl8fPJSxg0

Oldefarte| 10.20.10 @ 3:10PM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=czl8fPJSxg0

Harry| 10.20.10 @ 3:47PM

We (the western 'civilized' world) have labeled Muslims as extremists or radicals. There is only one 'true to the faith' Muslim and they are the ones that killed 3000 Americans on 9-11. Bin Laden is not an extreme Muslim, he is the epitome of a Muslim. These other so-called self professing peace loving (really?) Muslims are the deceived ones. And I don't recall any of the hi-jackers professing the name of Jesus Christ when they rammed those jets into our fellow Americans. O'Reilly is dead on...Muslims killed Americans on 9-11...period!

Pat| 10.20.10 @ 4:55PM

When us Conservatives send a paladin like O’Reilly to battle our enemies on a talk show, it’s important to realize the vast cultural gulf which separates us well-adjusted conservative types from those other folks. A recently published book helps explain the opposing viewpoints within this vast chasm and also describes telltale physical reactions often observed to affect Liberals during heated debates – the book is titled: “Conservatives Are from Mars, Liberals Are from New York” by I. B. Teabagger and the chapter on 9/11 is quite enlightening when it comes to understanding Whoopi, Joy and their stern, but lovable, stepmother, Maureen Dowd.

Liberals see the destruction of the Twin Towers as the result of natural phenomena, as if they were brought down by a tornado, earthquake or stray meteor strike. If you attempt to connect real people, basically Muslim terrorists, with their destruction you create an “atmosphere” containing the toxic elements “hatefulness”, “divisiveness” and “intolerance”. Since many liberals have a weak immune system, probably genetic in origin, hatefulness brings on sneezing, itching, red eyes and a stuffy nose.

Divisiveness will cause their eyes to involuntarily cross while their faces take on the familiar pinched look of someone with a severe constipation which has lasted two or more weeks and continues despite their frequent consumption of various laxatives; including, but not limited to, prunes (organic, free range prunes only).

But their most violent physical reaction will come through merely the tiniest whiff of “intolerance”. Symptoms include an increase in vocal volume, an uncontrollable clenching and unclenching of the anus, some minor flatulence, involuntary jerking of the hands, crossing and uncrossing of legs and a moderate protuberance of the eyeballs and widening of the nostrils, one, or at times, both.

Since these can also be perfectly normal physical reactions for most Liberals, the one telltale symptom is intermittent drooling, spitting or a slight nasal discharge, usually green in color but shading toward mauve. Such allergic reactions can be severe at times, occasionally bordering on life threatening. Is it any wonder that Whoopi and Joy were forced to walk off the set?

Big Elk| 10.20.10 @ 7:37PM

Whoopy sure is getting FAT! She looks like an elephant, no, make that a hippo! As for Joy, she always was a fatso, that's why she dresses in mumus. It is clear that the fat has clogged their brains.

Tony in Central PA| 10.20.10 @ 7:47PM

The Left in America has again demonstrated that when a culture abandons its faith purportedly in favor of reason it ends up with neither.

chris haynes| 10.20.10 @ 10:37PM

Shouldnt we remember August 14 2001 too?

What happened on that day? 5000 innocent Americans were killed.

In abortion clinics. And the day after. And the day after. And the day after.

And lets not hide who's responsible.

Gulianni. 400,000 killed in New York City while he was mayor. 5 times Hiroshima. Thanks Rudy.

Liberman. 30,000,000 killed while he was senator. Biggest holocaust in history. Thanks Joe. Condolleza Rice. Powell. the Clintons. Even our ally, TonyBlair.

And what have our military officers done to try to protect our people? Zilch.

But remember 9-11. 3000 killed, by some Moslems.

Bill| 10.21.10 @ 9:36AM

The 30,000,000 killed when Lieberman was at the helm may be the coldest-blooded holocaust in history (though I doubt it; for me, the brass ring goes to Stalin for the Terror Famine of 1934), but it's not the biggest one. The biggest one is the 38,000,000 killed by Mao during the Great Leap Forward, 1959-1963.

Animator Girl| 10.21.10 @ 1:21PM

Just noticed something in your post - it's a bit of a stretch and undeniably petty, but interesting nonetheless:

New MSNBC slogan: Lean Forward

Because "Leap Forward" was taken, and has an unsavory history.

Freudian slip, MSNBC?

WAKE UP| 10.21.10 @ 12:04AM

Okay, that's the wake up call for Whoopi and Joy done. Now, who's next?

Heywood| 10.21.10 @ 12:53AM

So they invite someone on their show--to interview and hear his opinions--and then they walk out on him when they don't agree?? Who's being a bully here in this instance? At least Barbara Walters had enough class, grace and experience to point out how wrong her 2 nefarious co-hosts were. I'd be surprised if they get too many more guests after that! lol

Yosemeti Sam| 10.21.10 @ 2:20AM

" ... All of which brings me back to Menendez. After stating that September 11 should be "a day of remembrance and resolve for America," she went on to observe:

Furthermore, it concerns me when religion is used as a wedge issue between people and that's why we need to be careful here because when religion is used to drive people apart; that's an abuse of religion...."

Wedge issue?

Um, listen up Ingenue:

It. Is. As. Simple. As. The First Commandment versus the 1st Amendment!

Sonny| 10.21.10 @ 2:53AM

I Loved it.!!!
Bill O'Reilly, told them to their faces, on their own show, to these 2 Obama Ultra Liberal Feminist Socialist Marxist Nazi's, joy behar and whoopi goldberg, the Unmentionable Truth, that the American People / America, was viciously, and without provocation, attacked on American Soil, on 911 of 2001, in which they murdered over 3000 American lives on that day, by Arab Islamic Muslims. Terrorists, in the name of Islam, which is why the Majority of the American People, oppose the 911 Islamic Muslim. Ground Zero Cordoba Victory Mosque, to be built on the very site, where they committed their heinous, vicious, and vile Act of Aggression / War, against America.
Those 2 Liberal Socialist Marxist Feminist Nazi's, showed everyone in America, by storming off their own show, in a sudden childish temper tantrum rant of immaturity, why they are such immature, juvenile, and ideologically indoctrinated morons, which cannot stand someone contradicting, repudiating, and refuting, their support for the Arab Islamic Muslims, Radical Extremists of the world, with Facts, Truths, and Reality.
I loved it.!!!
And further more, But these 2 Anti-American Socialist Marxist Feminist Liberal Facist Nazi's, joy behar and whoopi goldberg, could care less about what's right, they only care about their far leftwing Radical "View" or Opinion, which is dictated to them by their far leftwing Liberal indoctrinated Ideology, and so they will not, and cannot, tolerate the "Truth", and or any opposing View / Opinion, other than their own, otherwise, the show would be called, "The Views".
These 2 radical, lunatic, deranged, delusional, and demented, Feminist Liberal Nazi's, are exactly what's wrong with Hollywood and the Liberal Media in America today.!!

Bill| 10.21.10 @ 9:15AM

As a younger man, I used to wonder how the brilliant leaders of the Western democracies could have fooled themselves into thinking they could get along with Nazis and fascists in the 1930s.

After living the past decade since 9/11, I now understand much better how powerful the fools of the West can be when they put their minds to self-delusion.

Timothy McVeigh didn't bomb the federal building in Oklahoma City as an act of Christian extremism (even if he had, how does such conduct damn all Christianity, any more than 9/11 condemns all of Islam?); he bombed it as an act of anti-government extremism.

Julie| 10.21.10 @ 12:49PM

Just stop watching "The View" and they will go away. Tell your family and friends.

Margie| 10.21.10 @ 1:04PM

Yes, I did see that film on TV many years ago. It was the most disgusting film I have ever seen. I watched it because I always liked the actor that was in it, BUT I am sorry I even looked at it. Those two women are so liberal, both Love the president, they can't see the forest for the trees.

duck| 10.21.10 @ 2:52PM

If one sets back and analyzes the Muslims. They are using the same methods as the liberals have been using for years and the liberals are falling for it. In many ways it would be amusing if it wasn't so ominous

anon| 10.21.10 @ 3:19PM

This article is utter bigoted tripe; this publication should be ashamed of itself for advocating this type of myopic trash.

PS| 10.21.10 @ 4:27PM

it's funny, all these posts and I don't see anyone discussing WHY they attack us (terrorists).
How many of you actually believe it is because they hate our "freedoms"? I would emplore all of you to think outside the box a bit. This has been discussed much but ignored by Neo-Cons and Liberal Dem warhawks...read "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson, and see this article: http://caivn.org/article/2010/.....-terrorism
Use some common sense, they hate us because we have been occupying their lands, stealing their resources and killing them with our military. Until Neo-Cons and Dirty Libs can openly discuss these issues we will never move forward. The old convention has given way, we are wasting all of our resources in the middle east while a very small group of radicalized Muslims are laughing at us.( go here to see a great explanation of this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....64598.html )Anyone who doesn't think that the US was at least complacent in letting the twin towers be attacked is in a fantasy land. The 9-11 commission report doesn't even hold up to high school physics. And what about WTC7? Until we can openly discuss these issues the Terrorists have won. We need to either declare these wars or shut them down. I would personally like to see most of our military bases around the world shut down or put the funding on the backs of the countries that might want to pay for protection from our military. Spend those dollars and resources here, secure the border, get rid of evil,evil minimum wage laws that help illegal aliens and that force low skilled US workers onto the government dole. We need some god damn Freedom from our own intrusive Government that keeps us at each others throat by promoting a false left/right paradigm. Repubs and Dems are most all made of the same self-serving (and special-interest-serving)sludge. Until we embrace Constitutionally sized Limited Government we are doomed. Until we say NO MORE to the bullies in DC then the greatest experiment of free trade and free society will be but a flash in the pan of history.

hh| 10.21.10 @ 5:10PM

Muslims did 9-11? Good grief! All of them?

The worst part is that a handful were involved along with Israel's MOSSAD and the US CIA. Anyone believing 19 men from a cave in Afghanistan breeched every security wall on that fateful day has got sand for brains.

The facts are out there. Do a little research. Start with Israel and 9-11. And quit watching The View AND Bill O'Reilly. They both spew nothing but corporatist nonsense (both left and right wing fascists).

Nathan561| 10.21.10 @ 6:33PM

......AND I won't be subscribing to this magazine. You guys are all hate mongers and conspiracy hacks. Minus a few that care enough to study history outside "Hannity's AMerIcA".

Daniel565| 10.21.10 @ 6:49PM

Occupying their lands...how about helping Muslims in Yugoslavia. Does that count? Quwait? Supporting Muslims who fought against the Soviets?

Why does that not give us any brownie points? Oh no, because we were allies it is actuay our fault they attacked us. Because 'we created them'. Right.

Say, how about Russia which is actuay occupying and exterminating Muslims in Czechnia? How come they get a pass?

Because it's one sided, that's why. The left and the radical Muslims are on the same side. That's why their arguments are the same (hint). Sure the US ain't perfect, of course 'realism' wasn't the most moral course of action. But the reason why radical Islam is directing all this anger at us is because they smell blood. They sense they can win this thing, whereas the Czechnians are on their own. Why?

Because of the left, that's why. Radical Islam figures the left is their ticket to victory. Russia doesn't have a left, it doesn't suffer from political correctness. Even though it is much weaker, they know the response will be harsher.

It's not occupation or our freedoms. It's the left. They represent our mortal weakness.

weber e320| 10.24.10 @ 11:24AM

After living the past decade since 9/11, I now understand much better how powerful the fools of the West can be when they put their minds to self-delusion.

Tony Ryals| 11.4.10 @ 5:47PM

Paradoxically it was Geert Wilders himself who requested that Queen
Beatrix reward the suspect Dutch passenger Jasper Schuringa who was
conveniently aboard the Christmas flight 253 to Detroit and who
tackled the Nigerian ‘crotch bomber’ with a medal of some sort
although he prefers cash.One could actually come to believe based upon
the facts that both Geert Wilders and Queen Beatrice protect and give
aid and comfort to the very Israeli ’security’ company that allowed
9/11 to happen in the first place and led to the deaths of almost
3,000 in New York WTC on 9/11/01 and according to some,over 1,000,000
dead in Iraq and Afghanistan as a result of trying to pen all the
blame on Muslims in
Iraq and Afghanistan.
Both Geert Wilders as well as Queen Beatrix appear to have blood on their hands.

ICTS International at Schiphol,etc.,is run by Israeli government
connected money launderer(and mass murder suspect), Menachem
Atzmon,(convicted in Israel in the 1990’s for taking money from
Israeli government account and giving it to Netanyahu’s Likud Party)
who headquarters ICTS in the Netherlands but they bought Huntleigh
airport rent-a-cops with its Logan Airport Boston security contract by
incorporating in Senator and now U.S.Vice President (and
‘Catholic-Zionist’)Joe Biden’s state of Delaware and using the shares
to defraud investors,launder money and of course ‘accidentally’ allow
Menachem Atzmon to board their flights into the WTC in the first place
!And even though Menachem Atzmon was convicted of fraud in Israel he
runs your airport ’security’ in the Netherlands thanks to Queen
Beatrix,Geert Wilders and other corrupt Dutch politicians who protect
them !
Is the Netherlands really a country ? I think it’s either an Israeli
or Rothschild corporation.The Israeli ICTS International that controls
Schiphol Airport also ‘guarded’ Logan Airport,Boston as well as Newark
on 9/11 and also allowed Richard Reid ‘the shoe bomber’ to board an
American flight from DeGualle Airport shortly after that,(even though
they had allowed him to fly to Israel supposedly to visit Hamas prior
to
9/11/01)and more recently allowed the Islamic Nigerian ‘crotch
bomber’,(whose father is an Israeli arms dealer),to fly aboard flight
253 from Schiphol Airport to Detroit with his ‘crotch bomb’ on
Christmas 2009.Someone should call the police.

Passengers help foil attack on US-bound plane
26 Dec 2009 … A spokeswoman for police at the Schiphol airport in
Amsterdam declined comment about the … Jasper Schuringa subdued
alleged terrorist Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab on Northwest Airlines 253
… Queen Beatrix – still impeccable after 30 years ….. Geert
Wilders’ Indonesian roots define his politics, …
cempaka-belanda.blogspot.com/…/passengers-help-foil-attack-on-us-bound.html

http://indymedia.us/en/2010/09/43248.shtml

WTC,9/11,ICTS International,NY Mosque:Netherlands Geert Wilders,Barack
Obama Declare 9/11 Official April Fools Day

What do Mansoor Ijaz,Barack Obama,Geert Wilders,NY Mayor Michael Bloomberg,
Asra Nomani,Judea Pearl all have in common besides opening their big
mouths again this
time re the construction pro or con of a ‘9/11 Mosque’ ? They all know
that the two planes
that hit Rudy Giuliani’s WTC and now Mayor Bloomberg’s ‘ground zer0′
on 9/11/01 were
under the ’security’ of ICTS International-Huntleigh owned(through
stock fraud) by felon Menachem
Atzmon and his fellow Shin Beit Israeli crime family.They allowed
Richard Reid the shoe bomber who
Daniel Pearl was investigating at the time of his beheading in
Pakistan to board an American Airlines
flight to the U.S.from DeGualle Airport France even though they knew
who he was having facilitated his
trip to Israel on El Al from Schiphol Airport Amsterdam pre 9/11!