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Thankful for Obama

All signs are pointing toward a monumental collapse in public support for the president and his party.

The Obama juggernaut is fragmenting upon the jagged outcroppings of American popular resistance. Yes, his health care catastrophe might just pass Congress. Accounting gimmickry, rhetorical appeals to Americans' most decent moral impulses, and $300 million bribes will do that for even the worst legislation. But the signs are all pointing toward a monumental collapse in public support for the president and his party.

Gallup polled Americans on health care reform the weekend the House passed its health care bill. The country was evenly split, with 41 percent saying the bill would make the health care situation better and 40 percent saying worse. But it was the next question that ought to have given Democrats pause. Asked how the bill would affect them personally, 36 percent said it would make their own health care situation worse. Only 26 percent said it would make things better for them.

A Rasmussen Reports poll released Monday found that only 38 percent of Americans support the Democrats' health care reform plan. A solid majority of 56 percent opposed it.

Even worse for Obama, Gallup's latest presidential job approval rating showed the president falling below 50 percent for the first time. Forty-nine percent approved of his performance; forty-four percent disapproved. The graph shows his approval numbers falling steadily since February, his disapproval numbers rising steadily.

A CBS News poll conducted days after the passage of the House health care bill found that Obama's job approval among independents had fallen 21 percentage points since February (a third of that coming in the last month!) and is now at 45 percent. His disapproval rating among independents rose 28 percentage points, from 12 to 40.

The numbers were inevitable. A stridently liberal president, House speaker, and Senate majority leader governing a substantially conservative nation must tread lightly. Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are stomping -- with their fingers plugging their ears to keep out the screams of the opposition that comprises a majority of the country but a minority of Congress.

Mistaking the country's well-earned dissatisfaction with George W. Bush and momentary infatuation with Obama for an ideological realignment of historical proportions, Democrats in Washington dashed giddily forward with an unprecedented spree of deficit spending, economic meddling, entitlement expansion, and controlling regulation. The people they expected to greet them with cheers have recoiled in horror, or at least stopped in cold amazement.

A populace proud of itself for electing its first black president and still brimming with hope (yes, hope) and idealism at his inauguration 11 months ago is now shocked at the pace and breadth of his plans for "change." Deficit spending at a higher rate than FDR or LBJ, middle class tax hikes, an unconstitutional mandate that all Americans buy health insurance. This is not what the good-hearted, middle-of-the-road Americans who elected this president thought they were voting for.

America's government has changed. But America hasn't. Obama (and Pelosi and Reid) have not grasped that. They operate under the delusion that the country is united behind their big-government agenda. They believe this even after an October Gallup poll reported that 40 percent of Americans self-identify as conservatives, 36 percent moderates and only 20 percent liberals.

A left-wing governing majority that ignores the polls, the protests, the tea parties, the taxpayer rallies, and the latest election results is an unexpected gift to the right. This is no Clinton administration. Governing from the middle and playing to the polls are not behaviors we've seen this year. The Obama team doesn't seem to want to hold power indefinitely. It wants to enact its agenda as quickly as possible, under the apparent assumption (usually correct) that massive expansions of government power are never reversed.

But this is an extremely high-risk strategy. It works if the country is truly on your side. If not, the masses will revolt before you've had a chance to enact your full agenda.

Conservatives have the country. Obama has the government. Given Obama's remarkably open and constant disdain for the people he was elected to govern, one can make an educated guess what their reaction will be the first time they have a chance to register their feelings at the ballot box.

For giving them such an unexpectedly early opportunity to correct the mistake they made last fall, the American people -- especially conservatives -- ought to be thankful for this president. He is an unapologetically aggressive liberal. For the right, that's a good thing. It means there will be no blurring of the ideological lines in the next two elections.

Obama's extreme liberalism allows the GOP to return to its core principles without fear of losing the middle. Come 2010, Americans will know (as long as Republicans don't botch it) that they are choosing between the party that wants to remake America in the image of a European welfare state and the one that wants to expand freedom. Thanks to his overreaching, Obama might really have only two years to enact as much of his agenda as he can, not four or eight. This Thanksgiving, that is something for which conservatives ought to be deeply thankful.

About the Author

Andrew Cline is editorial page editor of the New Hampshire Union Leader. His Twitter ID is Drewhampshire.

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Robbins Mitchell| 11.25.09 @ 6:14AM

Well,I'm just thankful that Brokeydoke continues to wet his panties over 'global warming' in spite of it having been exposed as the fraud many of us have long known it to be.....I only hope the boy continues his hysterical micturation as long as possible so it become even more apparent what an intellectual poseur and scientific ignoramus he is.

TennesseeVolunteer| 11.25.09 @ 6:51AM

Huzzah Andrew, the calvary is coming. Everyday, more and more people are becoming 'awake' and seeing this leftist administration for what they are.
It is critical that all of us educate as many of our friends and coworkers that more individual freedom allows them to do 'what they think is right' for themselves and their families.
I have been very disappointed with the Catholic Church the last several years because I felt they were sitting on their hands. By banning Patrick Kennedy publicly from taking Communion, they will ignite a firestorm of debate among Americans Catholics that, in the end, must come down on the side of life to the absolute chagrin from the Left. If the leftist Democrats try to take on the Catholic Church, the Dems will lose millions of votes. If the Dems bend to the Church, they will lose their ideological leftist side of the party. Either way, conservative America wins.

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JAWilson| 11.25.09 @ 7:40AM

I get the premise of the article, but Brack and Axelrod told the country exactly what they were going to do with that dopey "Change You can Believe In" theme. It was the media that should be beaten with the wreckage they have wrought by not once challenging the change theme during the campaign like they would have done to a Republican candidate. Now we are stuck with an completely destructive "Change We can Believe In".

dan| 11.25.09 @ 9:45AM

of course the messiah is doing everything he promised. But thanks to the media the real message was bush is the bad guy who screwed up everything and I am here to rescue you from yourselves. And while you are watching in awe enjoy the cotton candy I am passing around

Redbourn| 11.25.09 @ 4:03PM

You are 100% correct.

Many blogs pointed out Obama's communist past and the way in which he had hidden so many things, but the MSM was so excited by a half black man that could articulate, that it hid all of his glaring faults under the carpet.

Some journalists are now admitting the error of their ways, but nowhere near enough.

http://tinyurl.com/nopapertrail

Mike

Don L| 11.25.09 @ 7:50AM

"Mistaking the country's well-earned dissatisfaction...for an ideological realignment of historical proportions...."
I doubt this very much. They have openly shown that they know they are going against the will of the American people to intall their Marxist agenda and they don't care -they don't need a license or approval -they won!

JBobs| 11.25.09 @ 8:20AM

While this article attempts to genererate some hope, let us remember the dangers we are increasingly exposed to by this inept administration. Additionally, based on this government's penchant for disregarding the Constitution, why should we expect that it will not thwart us at the ballot box a la its South American marxist brethren?

daddioandkzj| 11.25.09 @ 4:00PM

JBobs, you have hit the nail on the head. Given this administrations complete lack of morals or ethics, and the still strong desire to avenge what they perceive as Bush's stealing of the 2000 election, this is what I fear will be their goal. Using intimidation tactics (as they did in the last election), manipulating polling data, "losing" ballots, rigging voting machines, bringing illegals, and the dead to vote (early and often), and let's not leave out their friends in ACORN, who will make a reappearance soon. I fear it will all end up in the courts again in 2010 and 2012.

Melvin| 11.25.09 @ 8:21AM

All the above might be very well true. But Ms. Pelosi eluded to the fact that the Democrats can lose the House, Senate and even the Presidency but Health Care, Cap and Trade, and Immigration Reform will be there silently chugging away with ruthless inefficiency waiting for the Democrats return.

jd| 11.25.09 @ 8:47AM

Tennessee Volunteer,

I don't know about the parish you belong to, but as far as the "Catholics" sitting in my church's pews every Sunday I will guarantee over 50% voted for Obama - a LIBERAL, LEFTIST, MARXIST, so I highly doubt that the Democratic party taking on the Catholic Church will amount to anything. Bravo to the bishop in Rhode Island for banning communion to Patrick Kennedy. I'm still waiting for Pelosi to be excommunicated.

SG| 11.25.09 @ 10:36AM

jd,
Which Catholic Church do you attend in Tennessee? Has the priest lost control of his flock?

mikey| 11.25.09 @ 8:57AM

The nation went to bed with what they thought was the catch of the night only to wake up with Maggie May.
I wish I'd never seen your face.
You lured me away from home
just to save you from being alone.
You stole my heart and that's what really hurts.
The morning sun
when it's in your face
really shows your age

Becky| 11.25.09 @ 10:24AM

Concerning Patrick Kennedy, he is just one example of inheriting a religion, not being brought up in it evidently. I don't think any politician is required to go against his beliefs when religion and secular questions cross paths.

There are athietsts and agnostics that are against abortion, making the argument that those who are not Catholic, etc. would be excluded by his decision. (the very liberal actor, Martin Sheen, is a very pro life Catholic, and actively promotes the postition in his life. Nate Hentoff (sp.) argues the pro life position from a secular defense.)

Liberals use religion as a convienence, not conviction. Even Rev. Wright acknowledged Obama's use of the church as being one of political expediency. Like so much about Obama and the liberals, they have created a theory of running things in the face of centuries of experience, and are hell bent that they know better than anyone, anywhere, anytime.

We are watching theory in action on a very large scale, and the flaws in it are not very pretty to witness. It seems either they will win out, or be pushed back. I don't really see a middle ground at this point.

SG| 11.25.09 @ 10:33AM

There are militias in just about every state. When the GIANT(conservatives) finally arises from his nap, we will take back OUR country from these committed communists and throw the "Liar-in-Chief" our of OUR White House. The cafeteria catholics like Pelosi, Kerry, Sebelius and the rest of the fakes need to be publically excommunicated by Rome.They already have their own religion and it is communism. We need to thin out the ranks of liberal catholics across America who have hijacked OUR faith and the liberal priests who confuse faith with idolatry to the progressives in Washington. We need a good ole fashioned uprising, and it may be coming to your neighborhood soon. Be prepared and be ever vigilant.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.25.09 @ 10:45AM

Mr. Cline
In a wry way, I agree with you. I would follow on with the observation: "You ain't seen nuthin' yet!"

Please quit using the term, "liberal" OK?

These bad boys are so far to the left of liberal that my liberal friends are beginning to worry. Many of them have seen their own retirement go up in smoke.
You guys are mistaken about the Dems wanting to remake America into a "European welfare state".
I believe you are downright wrong!

I believe these communists, (pardon the shorthand), are in the midst of an all out assault on the freedoms Americans will fight to the death for...once again.

Read again the all out assault the Bolsheviks launched against Russians in the early 20th century.
We well educated Americans can see the parallels already.
We at TEAM America have already awakened, as has much of America. We believe we have identified at least most of the "canaries in our coal-mine".
So,
It is not a matter of waking up, but manning up and momming up!
See, moms in defense of their children are the most dangerous mammals on earth.....

As the wheels begin coming off their attack on us, they are going to pull out all the stops.
Whew!

dd| 11.25.09 @ 7:37PM

Here is the most incisive comment I've seen in a long while!The Americans have no idea what "communism" really means,the delusional voters believe this is "just another party" and if we don't like their performance we will vote them out next time.What a falacy!We ,who lived through communism and escaped alive,know exactly what this take over looks like.It is identical to the take-overs in all the eastern European countries after the war.These are precisely the same steps the communists took and then governed un-oppossed for the next 50 some years.The same delusions prevailed amongst the population about being "just another political party".Do you want examples of what a communist regim means?Things the regular folk can relate to,things like :
you owned your apartment of 3 bedrooms,the government issues a law saying every person is only entitled to occupy 25 square feet.So,you and your wife cannot be living in this entire apartment,you both are only alowed to have one bedroom and common use of facilities.The other two bedrooms,in your own private home,are going to be assigned by the state to two other families in need.These people are going to pay you rent in the amount legislated by the government,a pittyfull may be $50 per month (in equivalent).If you do not obey,you will go to jail and your apartment will become state property.If American people do not believe this will happen here,better aswk some people who lived through it!This was just one little example,these are the kind of things you people should be educated about before voting agin in 2010 and 2012.Otherwise we are all doomed...

enjay| 11.26.09 @ 9:27AM

Ken the Texican is right on the mark.
Those who really want to know need to read.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/20.....oudon.html

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Rmm| 11.25.09 @ 11:05AM

'The Obama team doesn't seem to want to hold power indefinitely.'
You hit the bulls eye, Mr. Cline. The rapidity of this cram down agenda speaks volumes. The change agents were thinking they would catch us with our guards down. Pelosi especially, was going to blow healthcare past everyone in the most deceitful way possible.
I can only hope and pray that this power grab blows up in their faces, thus setting back the progressives mad dash for years to come.

Lee Moody| 11.25.09 @ 8:26PM

Why do you think the banks are being shut down? Just like General Motors, guess who will take over the banks ?
All of you well intentioned voters who believed that there would be tax reductions for ninety five % of americans. Did you know that Pres. Obama had never managed even a taco stand, let alone a business ? I think that he is a left wing ex-professor who fails to grasp real life success. Let's make change in 2010 and kick out his enablers ; Pelosi and reid and any one helps them in power,

Northern Rebel| 11.25.09 @ 11:05AM

Right again, as usual, Old Tex!

Happy Thanksgiving, a great AMERICAN holiday, my fellow patriot!

Al Adab| 11.25.09 @ 11:24AM

Rebel, Ken:
And to you both, Happy Thanksgiving. Pray for the freedom of America.

Appleby| 11.25.09 @ 11:06AM

The one thing for which I am thankful is that this epic fail will put an end, finally and completely, to The Sixties.

Rocco| 11.25.09 @ 11:50AM

Appleby: Agreed. I pray for it and couldn't be happier if it did finally put an end to it once and for all.

S.L. Toddard| 11.25.09 @ 11:31AM

"Obama's extreme liberalism allows the GOP to return to its core principles without fear of losing the middle. Come 2010, Americans will know (as long as Republicans don't botch it) that they are choosing between the party that wants to remake America in the image of a European welfare state and the one that wants to expand freedom."

Unfortunately for Americans, to the GOP "expanding freedom" entails the expansion of our leviathan welfare/warfare state, not only domestically but into every corner of the globe.

Al Adab| 11.25.09 @ 11:36AM

Sorry Toddard:

Al Adab| 11.25.09 @ 11:41AM

oops, slipped

Toddard: Sometimes you hit it on the head, but you missed with this one. How the GOP may define "expanding freedom" is one thing (although I doubt growing leviathan is it) nonetheless, the Conservative Movement does not seek to do so nor (neocons/Wilsonians aside) does it seek to impose nation building anywhere. While it carries an interventionist strain it does so against enemies not to reconstruct failed states.

Curtis Rasmussen| 11.25.09 @ 11:49AM

S.L.ick Toadturd is synonymous with concern troll. He does not give a rat's ass about the conservative movement, but he will pretend to be one to come to this website to stir up dissent.

Hey troll, people see right through you. Stop huffing the jenkem collected from your Grandma's leaking sewer pipes, the stench is beginning to cross into your posts.

Margie| 11.27.09 @ 12:01PM

"He does not give a rat's ass about the conservative movement, but he will pretend to be one to come to this website to stir up dissent."
~Indeed.

Gerrymander| 11.25.09 @ 11:40AM

"Deficit spending at a higher rate than FDR or LBJ...." HUH??

Substitute "Reagan" and "Bush, Jr.".

Dave H| 11.25.09 @ 3:36PM

You can substitute ANY president -- Obama's deficit spending is at a higher rate. That's the point!

Alan Brooks| 11.25.09 @ 11:42AM

Todd, even though we come from different directions, we are at the same location. These deluded fools will give us a Jeb Bush come January of 2017-- they would if they could.
Let's hope they are just being contrary, pulling every string they can, and are not really as out of touch as they seem. Let's hope they merely want us to send the GOP donations, and do not actually think there is any longer anything being conserved. In politics it certainly might be better to be tricky than dopey.

Todd, these people DESERVE Obama.

JimE| 11.26.09 @ 5:20PM

Sorry moron but it is not conservative who will push for Jeb Bush but idiots like you who will. Jeb Bush will be you need straw man for all of obama's failures.

hunter| 11.25.09 @ 11:45AM

Oprah has read the tea leaves already, shes bailing. The great O that donated millions under the table, the one that opened the door for this great one to pull a boner on the American people like the author of a supposedly real life story pulled one over on her. Then she could get even make excuses for and do damage control. This Obomba con job has her looking like a complete idiot, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Hell she didn't even go to the big advertised state dinner at the WH. But that is what Obomba does he don't throw'em under the bus anymore, he makes them fall on the sword. The sword being a large curved Arabian sword. This indesive ego manaic can't even decide as to whether to send more troops our General requests, and when he maybe has, it will be a week before he will grace us with his blessed answer. What a .......! I belive this artificial, immitation, counterfeit poor excuse for a president will be impeached within a year. Even Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe couldn't do any worse.

roadmaster| 11.26.09 @ 9:46AM

Dream on!!! Impeachment would require a whole bunch of dhimmicrats to get on board, and no chair of any congressional committee would dream of "going rogue." The Obama/Reid/Pelosi thugs would eat their lunch.

Alan Brooks| 11.25.09 @ 11:55AM

I'll keep saying it: why don't you admit economic conservatism is dead, and from now on concentrate on family issues, and building a skool sistem that is deplorable but not horrendous.

Monica | 11.25.09 @ 11:55AM

Rasmusen should ask "Does anyone (outside of a few blocks of San Francisco's richest, prissiest neighborhoods) actually like that woman, Nancy Pelosi?"

Gary Granville| 11.25.09 @ 11:56AM

Whats disturbing is that the medical insurance plan may pass, republicans then back in power (2010-2012) but the medical insurance plan still in place. Maybe not a conspiracy between parties but end result still the same, i.e. bigger govenment. Seems like a game of cat and mouse with the American public taking the brunt. I just don't trust either party.

shoey| 11.25.09 @ 3:53PM

bingo!
give the man a cigar

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.25.09 @ 12:11PM

Gary,
Fine. Either man up...or emmigrate to Greenland.

Al Adab| 11.25.09 @ 12:22PM

With global warming we just might be able to farm in Greenland again as did the vikings circe 900AD. Might be worth the trip, heh?

Richard Baker| 11.25.09 @ 12:26PM

Since the Kenyan and his lot exhibit their contempt for the country on a daily basis, a collapse is going to happen and not a moment too soon. As an example, the Kenyan's refusal to show respect and honor for the Flag by placing his hand over his heart. We've all seen the pictures and, Hell, he'll keep doing it so the image will remain fresh in our minds. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

JimP| 11.25.09 @ 12:41PM

Point of order and no offense intended:

The "calvary" is coming? Meaning we are about to get crucified by Obama? Or did TN Vol mean cavalry(C-A-V-A-L-R-Y) as in horse mounted soldiers?

Bydand76| 11.25.09 @ 2:46PM

Cavalry:
Bradley Fighting Vehicles and 30 mike mike Bushmasters!

Whooo hooo ! Good Times!

I think TN Volunteer meant "cavalry" in regards to horse mounted soldiers but Armored Cav is so much cooler! IMHO of course.

Either way is kind of scary though when you think about it. Crucifiction or Bushmasters.

JimP| 11.25.09 @ 4:57PM

Bydand76: Armored Cav IS cool. Personally, the Air Cav (1st Cavalry Div/Airmobile) is my favorite though. That's my VN era bias coming through.

One thing for sure, we are being 'crucified' by Obama's policies. Hopefully the conservatives will stage a great comeback in 2010 and we will be 'reborn' into a new Reagan economic era.

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Richard Baker| 11.25.09 @ 12:51PM

JimP:
Used to be a schoolteacher and those two words confused my kids, as well.

Derek Leaberry| 11.25.09 @ 12:54PM

I wish it could be said, in the author's words, that "conservatives have the nation, Obama has the government." Obama may have become increasingly unpopular due to the stress and responsibility of governing, but it is self-delusional to think we have a true conservative majority in America. Does anyone really think that Americans will support the massive budget cuts that the country needs and conservatives would wish for? Is there anything more than a small minority of Americans in favor of continued American military action in the Middle East? Is America a culturally conservative country or is it a very permissive nation? Conservatives are the counterculture, not the liberals. Obama may be inploding but don't expect conservative ideas to become popular all of a sudden.

Jim Hlavac| 11.25.09 @ 1:23PM

So called Conservatives like the two Bushes, and Arnold and Giuliani, and Gringrich and on and on, and all those RINOs and DIABLOs and whatever else they are called merely want to pull the levers of power for their own benefit -- Republicans did not dismantle one thing that the Dems ever did. And thus they are merely driving the ship of state into the iceberg at different speeds. Vote them all out.

RAMIII| 11.25.09 @ 1:25PM

I've said it before and I will say it again. These people in power do NOT fear the "conservative" voters. They used ACORN to cheat their way into power and will continue to act with impunity. They are following the adage "Get in by the rules (although bending them) -- then change the rules".
Either way the precedent has been set. I tremble for our great country, because we are beset with the types of leaders we deserve (in this case corrupt). Such are the consequences when a nation forgets God.
When the laws of a nation are not based upon God's laws then they are based upon "Might Makes Right" pure and simple.
Unfortunately the "Right" and "Left" in this country both seek to manipulate the system to achieve their own end and thus obliterate the Constitution of the USA.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.25.09 @ 1:30PM

Derek, dear.
You are asking 5th grader questions in an adult conversation.
For instance:
No, virtually nobody wants "continued military operations in the middle east.
Sigh!
But, given a choice we would trather them be in the middle east than right down the block from your mommie's basement...and so would you. Trust us who have been on the sharp end.

mtb| 11.25.09 @ 1:32PM

I didn't vote for Obama. I could see he was a wolf in sheep's clothing from the beginning. That being said, I think the "hope and change" that got him elected was the hope for an improved economy, increase in jobs, and a higher standard of living for all Americans. Instead, his idea of redistribution is to make everyone poorer, then it will be fair. I don't know about that. Haitians are pretty much equal (poor), but I don't think they're very happy. I know I wouldn't want to live like that. The best thing that can happen is to stop the health and climate bills from passing, put conservatives in charge of the House and/or Senate, and then boot Obama out of office in 2012. I'd prefer a conservative Republican, but even a moderate Democrat (if there is such a thing) would be better than the current Alinskyite resident.

Richard Baker| 11.25.09 @ 1:36PM

Derek:
Since the Moslems take a long view of history, until we kill these folks by the tens or hundreds of thousands, we will be engaged. I agree with Ken above. One could only imagine your screams for help if we had to fight these jokers here in our country. Maybe a Soldier or Marine will come to your aid, if they can. Why not fight these bastards on their ground instead of ours? Sounds as if you don't exactly think things out. Sad to hear it.

Eden| 11.25.09 @ 4:06PM

You are assuming that the left will not find a way to take everyone's guns first. They expect people to cower in their houses and call the cops, thereby fulfilling the ideal of the well-bred, enlightened citizen who would never presume to actually stand up for himself. I notice that few elites send their children into such dangerous jobs as cops or soldiers. Let someone else's kids do it. They will be quite happy to kowtow to anyone so long as they are not required to do anything difficult, or dangerous, or that puts their own lifestyle in danger. Gotta love those California towns who ban military recruiters and ROTC. We have already seen the left bend logic into knots so that when a Muslim (or anyone else) manages to attack us on our soil, it's somehow our fault. Fight back? Horrors!

Margie| 11.25.09 @ 1:50PM

Say what you will, but there are people in this country and in the Republican Party who are not going to give up fighting for what's right. While everyone else is complaining and throwing stones, we'll be doing our best to see that conservatives are nominated in the Party. All you mockers and complainers will not have helped. Is it God's will to give up? Or does He command us to take up our swords and "Thrust them through?" (Ps. 18:38), And to be "Terrible as an army with banners?" (Song of Sol. 6:10).
Please don't lump us all in with the "Right" who are just the same as the Left.
God bless.

Tony in Central PA| 11.25.09 @ 2:06PM

I absolutely have to disagree with the author's claim that the country hasn't changed. There are many negatives about this current President, from his nefarious associates to his Marxist leanings to his lack of meaningful experience. Twenty years ago, any of these would have tripped the common sense circuits of the American people in enough measure to disqualify his Presidential aspirations long before he even became the Demiocratic nominee. We now have a shortage of common sense that prevents this from happening.
Many people are only experiencing buyer's remorse because they are dimly beginning to understand the implications of all the campaign lies they didn't care about at the time. They are waking up to what a President such as Obama means in terms of their individual fortunes.

America now faces the unappealing prospect of having a national lesson in the failures of socialism. For those of us who already had this lesson, its up to us to lead America out of the darkness.

JAY963| 11.25.09 @ 2:27PM

Gallup seriously understates opposition to health care reform. They poll all people not likely voters. They over represent Democrats in their samples. High support for health care reform is narrowly focused in a small number of districts. In 80% of the Congressional districts in the country opposition to health care reform and to the Obama agenda is overwhelming.

Jeff Perren| 11.25.09 @ 2:42PM

"as long as Republicans don't botch it"

A big if, I'm sorry to say, if we're to go by the public statements to date of the Congressional leaders. McConnell, Boehner, and others are extremely wishy-washy, complaining mostly about costs and rarely about the infringement of basic freedoms. That's an argument they always, rightly or wrongly, lose.

We need not so much another Reagan (who had his good points) but another Madison.

Ron| 11.25.09 @ 2:53PM

I wake up every day feeling like I am under attack. It's like a new terrorist attack every single day under this administration. The sheer magnitude and scope of the destruction they are inflicting upon us is mind-numbing. These people aren't just incompetent, they are dangerous. Their ideology is much closer to Stalin than Reagan. I honestly don't know if we can survive until the next election cycle.

Derek Leaberry| 11.25.09 @ 3:07PM

The war in Iraq, a nation 10,000 miles from America, was the chief cause of the Republican electoral debacle in 2006 and was part of the reason for the 2008 thrashing, the other being the meltdown on Wall Street. Who runs Iraq is not worth election disaster for the Republican Party.

One of National Review's founders, James Burnham, said it best- "the only vital interest the United States has in the Middle East is under the ground- its oil." And he was right. By the way, the late Mr. Burnham was awarded the Presidential Medal of Honor by President Roanld Reagan in 1983.

pugsley| 11.25.09 @ 3:20PM

Never interrupt when your opponent is about to shoot himself in the foot. The right needs to go about their business with powder kept dry. Time soon enough to move forward but for now these rat bastads are doing an enviable job of finishing off what little prospects they had left. After the collapse of the rat agenda the right needs to show a very common sense approach to government that everyone can understand from the get go. Get as many people on board from the start and get after it. With that said, everyone have a happy Thanksgiving.

Ray| 11.25.09 @ 3:26PM

Still, BO can do a lot of irreversible damage in two years. If the federal bureaucracy gets even a small amount larger, the liberal constituency will be too big to ever beat in an election.
Also, when "conservatives" did "run" Washington, they increased entitlements, not decreased them. Why will they do anything different the next time around?
Ignoring the Constitutional limits on government is our doom, and both the Republican and Democrat parties do this.

David Mills| 11.25.09 @ 3:36PM

So you're admitting he'll win the next one?

"It means there will be no blurring of the ideological lines in the next two elections. "

Michael Barnes| 11.25.09 @ 4:04PM

I really like the urging of the Senate Dems to "Go Nuclear" by that idiot Grayson.

Yeah, and 2013 will see Repubs at 51%+ House, 51%+ Senate plus the President -- Grayson I hope you're alive to see that CHANGE....

sestamibi| 11.25.09 @ 4:46PM

Sorry, I don't buy it. I think the public knew exactly what it was voting for last year, and that the nation is nowhere near as conservative as we would like to believe.

However, the Left is not content simply with holding the majority opinion. What they want is that theirs be the ONLY opinion permissible of expression. In the future look for resistance, possibly of violent nature.

cooperscopy| 11.25.09 @ 5:30PM

The public thought it was getting a post racial and post partisan president, Boy did they get it wrong...

http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

valwayne| 11.25.09 @ 5:58PM

10.2% UNEMPLOYMENT, Massive massive corrupt spending and debt, Gold hitting all time highes as the dollar collapses, hundreds of millions spent to give murdering foreign terrorists OJ like Circus trials and a world state. We haven't seen such a disaster since Jimmy Carter, and Jimmy Obama has done it in just 11 months. We could have had Hillary or McCain, we chose Obama? What a huge mistake!

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.25.09 @ 6:49PM

Folks,
The lines are drawn.

CHOOSE...THIS DAY...WHOM YOU WILL SERVE!
Whiners...bug off!
Communists..."bang" you're dead!
Greenies...grow up!
Climate rip-off oil salesmen...you lose!
Cranks...LMAO at you!
Christians and G_d fearing Jews...we win or the Messiah comes...we win!

Montana Gal| 11.25.09 @ 8:25PM

I'm pretty independent coming from the Blue Sky state. I don't sign on to either side's arguments automatically. So are you conservatives trying to beat me up or are you trying to persuade me? Just curious, cause I mostly read a bunch of bashers.

Margie| 11.29.09 @ 2:00PM

Montana Gal,
If you're still around... "Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things."
~Winston Churchill.

Jeff| 11.25.09 @ 8:28PM

What you haven't grasped is that Obama won by a landslide and is president along with an overwhelming majority in Congress. Republicans have been kicked to the curb. Stop whining and deal with it. You lost, you are out of power.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.26.09 @ 1:13PM

Jeff
Practice bending over. Then you shall gain your reward!
Heh!

Tony in Central PA| 11.25.09 @ 9:07PM

Like I say to any Obama supporter about his Presidency ; we will still have the same problems, in fact they'll probably be much worse, but people won't seem to care about them as much.

East Texas Rancher| 11.25.09 @ 10:25PM

Folks, wake up. There will be no more elections. The trap was set. The snare found its prey. We are caught tight and bound. We are debtors. Now, there will a real or imagined event of catastrophic nature and martial law will replace everything, including, and most importantly, elections. There won't be any in 2010. The reckoning has arrived.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.26.09 @ 1:16PM

Rancher, neighbor,

...Could very well be. Are you ready?
Keep a close eye on the canaries in the coal mine.

cmblake6| 11.29.09 @ 2:48PM

Why do you think this media circus in New York? To set the "emergency", to declare martial law, to freeze the elections.

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Yosemeti Sam| 11.25.09 @ 11:55PM

" Thankful for Obama ...."

And for the revelatory examples of craftily training school children to sing praises to that
resident in the White House - BHO.

Mmm, mmm, mmm.

Mmm!

In light of this messing with kids minds, how go the PTA meetings across the nation - in reaction;
within thousands of schools; what's up with that?

Consider the animal kingdom where mothers
in general 'protect' their young with ferocity!

Should humankind mothers 'protect' and be
any less ferocious in parentage to withstand the BHOs' apparatchiks targeting their kids?

Richard Baker| 11.26.09 @ 12:45AM

52% does not equal a landslide. Suggest that some read about Reagan as an example of a landslide. Curious math at work here.

Captainchaos| 11.26.09 @ 3:10AM

Obama is a lightning rod for Pavlovians. Just what, significantly, has Obama done, or attempted to do, or would like to do, that is so very out of keeping with what Bush did? Just about squat. Yet, it is claimed that Obama is a 'Communist', a 'socialist', a 'Marxist', a 'dictator in waiting'. A surreal and sad commentary on the mental quality of the American electorate that they are bought as easily as by the candidate or office holder in question having an (R) or a (D) in front of his name on the television screen.

Wasn't it this very publication, btw, that recently labeled Pat Buchanan a "crank"? It is not that Buchanan goes too far, it is that he hardly goes far enough.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.26.09 @ 1:18PM

Captain = crank crank crank crank crank.
(no ignition)

Margie| 11.27.09 @ 9:45PM

Yes, and a rather cryptic crank at that.
Cryptic: "having or seeming to have a hidden or ambiguous meaning : mysterious b : marked by an often perplexing brevity."

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higgins1990| 11.26.09 @ 5:51AM

The Dems need to lose 41 seats in 2010 so that Republicans control the House and can stop this nonsense. 41. That's the number. This is obtainable.

41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41. 41.

TTSSYF| 11.26.09 @ 7:30AM

Next year's elections are make or break for me as far as my predictions for this country are concerned. If, after everything we've seen over the past year, the people of this country vote for more of the same, I will give up on it entirely.

I don't think it's an overstatement to say that we're at the most precarious place we've ever been in. Pre-stimulus, about 37% of the electorate paid no income taxes; after Obowma's non-stimulating stimulus, that number is at about 47%. If it gets any higher, the taxpaying citizens will forever be at the mercy of the freeloaders. Americans need to snap out of their state of denial and realize that we've got to cut back on borrowing and spending on entitlements or else we are going to suffer a complete financial collapse. Although, as one blogger recently put it, that might be a good thing if it means the U.S. federal government collapses and the individual states are allowed to govern themselves as many of former Soviet states have done.

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Rod| 11.26.09 @ 8:01AM

As the article states, Rasmussen shows support down to 38 percent (56 percent opposed) from 45-52 right after the House vote. The strongest support for Obama care had come from young folks. In a dramatic reversal the young are now the strongest opponents in some key states. Support/Oppose Obama care, for Arkansas, North Dakota and Maine is as follows:
Age - Support / Oppose
Under 30 - 25/65
30-49 - 28/60
50-64 - 41/50
Over 65 - 32/55
Democrats should worry about the public learning about this most dangerous legislation ever to be considered.

patpacer| 11.26.09 @ 8:19AM

Corruption and illegal’s destroy Luzerne County Pa.
Here in Luzerne County we have a large population of disabled veterans & elderly which depend on the pitiful yearly COLA increase. The property tax reassessment county wide during this recession recently raised mortgages & rent at least $100 a month. Pa. lost the price cap on electricity, minimum $35 dollars a month increase only if you do not have any electric heat. Sewer & water both another hefty increase following the 2009 increase of $80 dollars, soon another minimum of $40 dollars a month. Millions have been stolen here, a few hundred thousand here, five hundred thousand there, embezzlement, and missing sewer authority funds. The only ones doing fine here are the Clans of high school drop out illegal border jumpers, nine to 12 adults in one house all still working 16 hours a day. It is costing me a $137 more a month just from the tax reassessment to view the Clan living in the rental property next door. Even though the FBI busted our Court house all the low income older homeowners must pay again, and pay so much more just to keep their family home. Many of us have nothing left but our blood, and those of us who use VA healthcare can not even sell our blood because no one in their right mind would want to buy it. As a house bound Catholic disabled veteran with a Clan of illegal border jumper’s right next door I ask why just a few million Veterans are made to live in H E LL while our government helps 23 million illegal border jumper swine.

P S - Don't think for one minute that just because we have a black dude as our new president that it is illegal or racist too deport them all. And do not tell me it is a hate crime to hate watching so much of our Country, and the old neighborhoods we still reside and pay taxes in be destroyed!

Jim O'Brien| 11.26.09 @ 9:24AM

And now it's Obama's policy, as commander-in-chief, to accuse Navy seals of assault on a terrorist whom they captured. This fits with his decision to try Gitmo terrorists who planned 9/11 in a civilian court in NYC. Obama is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Americans should stop volunteering for military service until Obama resigns, or is voted out. Just say no.

Margie| 11.27.09 @ 12:09PM

Well, Obama did say in his autobiography that he would stand with the Muslims.
Yet Alan Brooks is preaching to us how he will be voting for him. But of course we are the "losers".

martha| 11.26.09 @ 10:09AM

In my opinion, not giving McChrystal the troops he's been asking for to win in Afghanistan is also giving aid and comfort to the enemy as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not treason?
Is not Treason an impeachable offense?
Jus' askin'

Rhonda| 11.26.09 @ 10:27AM

I do not like Obama and it is not because he is supposed to be black either. He has slammed our nation and said we are not a christian country. I beg to differ our history books say different. What is he going to do have all the history books destroyed and rewritten? Then we have the health care issue. That in its self is communism !! I am tiered of what he is doing and how he disgraces our country. I do believe a lot of others are starting to feel the same way. There is nothing to ashamed of if you voted for him because he did come up with some pretty good lies and I do believe that we all wanted to believe they where true rather we voted for him or not. I just pray that God has mercy on us. When you think about it Revelation's is being fulfilled!!

JIM WHITTAKER, Hemet, CA| 11.26.09 @ 10:35AM

"We shall commence to construct the Soviet
Socialist State!" -- Valdimir Lenin, 1917

"Do not fire unless fired upon! But if they mean
to have a war, let it begin here!" -- American
Militia Commander, Lexington Green, 1775

tenn slim| 11.26.09 @ 12:02PM

Opine
Conservatives have the country. Obama has the government... If this be true, then the Left has indeed lost the momentum, the edge and the ability to impose without discourse thier agendas.
If, the polls are correct, then the Left HAS to resort to the ALinsky/Mao/SunTzu tactic of CRISIS. Expect this as soon as HC passes. HC is the Tent Pole Legislation. Without that control, without that fiscal control, the rest is all mirrors.
A CRISIS, imposed on the USA Electorate as a diversion will allow the imposition of the WEB of REGULATIONS necessary to get the secondary lines of control in place. HC, Plus a CRISIS, plus on the table ready to implement regs, will put the ball will into the LEFT endzone. We are STILL at risk. Watch your six.
Semper FI
end

bluecollarbytes| 11.26.09 @ 12:18PM

This is a gift to the Right. I hope it's not squandered by professional Republicans who reject solid conservative principles in favor of simply riding Obama's failures.

Is the public stupid, or preoccupied with life...surviving, raising families, etc? Obama was seen as the leftist organizer he is by some going back several years. Except for the absence of a 'hoped for' mitigation in practice- of his far-left views, there should be no surprise how it's turning out. Obama's continual unbroken association with the most radical of special self-interests throughout his life showed us what he thought of our nation, our people, and our history. Obama is tied at the hip with the March, not the policies. If he ever managed to enact every policy-desire that he's mentioned, one imagines him coming up with the next round of marching orders. I think folks are waking up to the fact this conflict is not about this or that failed Obama initiative but whether we want to continue living in the America we've known (even if Obama never, sadly, knew us at all) or whether we will continue lying down before the Obama/Democrat steamroller.

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Ken (Old Texican)| 11.26.09 @ 1:24PM

Bluecollar guy,
A hundred million of us aren't laying down unless dead.
Sir...timing timing timing.
God bless

Captainchaos| 11.26.09 @ 2:04PM

Rhonda,

"I do not like Obama and it is not because he is supposed to be black either. He has slammed our nation and said we are not a christian country."

It is not for nothing that Obama is touted as ushering in a new epoch in which the sins of the past will now be atoned for. Let us face it, as columnist Joe Sobran observed, the living and moving patterns of White liberals are indistinguishable from members of the Ku Klux Klan - White liberals would not have voted for a militant and "scary" Black man. Their need to pull the lever for him is rooted in their strong psychological need to cement their own status and moral superiority; and, consistent with that, as Niall Ferguson observed, Obama's presidency is viewed as an exercise in the relegitimization of the American system. As I said, the appeal and unappeal of Obama is mostly psychological, not rooted in the very real structural flaws in the system that are beginning to show in a way that would have court historians and economists like Ferguson even broaching the legitimacy of the system at all.

Of course, Rhonda, you say, as all the trained do, that 'it is not about race'. I realize you have much emotion, and even a visceral awareness that not saying to the contrary is in your self-interest at this time. But, are you telling me that you would want to live, for your children to live, in Haiti, or Zimbabwe, or even inner-city Detroit? Of course you would not, you are sane, however much that has been pathologized in our people today.

"Then we have the health care issue. That in its self is communism !!"

Hardly Rhonda, hardly. Get a grip. Do you even know just what horrors Bolshevism actually enacted in this life?

bluecollarbytes,

"Is the public stupid, or preoccupied with life...surviving, raising families, etc?"

Yes bytes, they are. And that is Life's function, if not its purpose. The problem is that the system does not serve the propagation of the life of the people who come out in really blind and instinctive support for the likes of Palin - I mean of course European-derived people. All the discontent that you, and all the decent of people sense is not really to do with this or that headline, but with the instinctive awareness that our people are being, everywhere, dispossessed.

P.S. I'm glad to see my old friend from Takimag, S.L. Toddard, is here.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.27.09 @ 7:55PM

Hello Chaos,
' Love your "handle".
It pretty much describes your bomb-thrower aproach to the conversation.
OK
I will bite (just once)
Whip on us "life's purpose" or even "A" life purpose worthy of our lives.
We are all ears.

TonyRaskoon| 11.26.09 @ 6:38PM

I believe the ramparts are now positioned at the polling places in 2010. Seriously...we could be faced with a dozen purple-shirted SEIU thugs menacing those of the wrong stripe at key polling places. I see intimidation and fraud in the elections of 2010 as the only tools of the Left that would allow them to remain in power. I have no doubt the Left will use them early and often. Agree with tennslim...watch your six.

Paul| 11.28.09 @ 12:42AM

Friends,

Let's not re-write history or fantasize too much about what really happened in the 2008 presidential election:

1. Due to the public's overwhelmingly negative views of GW Bush and the Republican party, the overarching theme of the 2008 presidential election was "change" . People across the political spectrum were fed up with Bush and the GOP. This is the single most important factor in the Democrat's victory in 2008.

2. In the general election, traditional democratic constituencies voted for Obama enthusiastically (and would have done for Hillary Clinton as well, if she had been the nominee). No surprise there.

3. African Americans (quite understandably, as an expression of racial/ethnic pride) and students voted in record numbers for Obama. These two groups spelled the difference in several key swing states; they are unlikely to do so again in the same proportions in future elections. As evidenced by the recent gubernatorial elections in VA and NJ, the turnout of these two key Democratic support groups is not easily transferable to non-Obama democrats.

4. Many independents, and moderates of both parties, voted against the Bush legacy, the appalling Republican leadership, and/or McCain, or all three, rather than for Obama.

5. Plenty of Republicans and conservatives who do not fit into the categories above stayed home or voted dutifully but made minimial efforts to Get Out The Vote in support of the GOP ticket.

All of these problems can be addressed successfully by conservatives and the GOP in 2010 and 2012, and the current adminstration and Congress are making that task easier by the day.

Mandarin Chinese Online| 11.28.09 @ 4:34AM

What they say doesn't matter to me.
it really make me down

Jack| 11.28.09 @ 6:06AM

Democrats got what it takes to take what you got

Ken(Old Texican)| 11.28.09 @ 8:08AM

Paul
Pretty darned accurate in my mind, except throw in a media that refused to vet Obama, and who ripped Sarah to shreds.
Toss in the "gentleman Jim" campaign by McCain and a feckless congress, both Democrat and Republican.

Nicholas Wind| 11.28.09 @ 3:10PM

I have faith in you Amerians to kick this marixist creep and his creepy gang out of office.
We did it here in Canada.

Christopher Ward| 11.28.09 @ 3:43PM

It certainly is encouraging to see the the errors this administration is ignorantly making. But is it so ignorant? There should be major alarms going off right now. The one thing all of us need to recognize and be suspect of is that the left knows exactly what they are doing. Even if they are defeated immediately, they have accomplished every central Progressive objective they have been fighting for over the last hundred years. THIS is their game plan. And once these devices are put into place THEY will not have to be in control in order for this county to look like and be everything they want it to be... And history has given us plenty of names to call such a place.

Richard Baker| 11.29.09 @ 10:51AM

Christopher Ward:
Remember, if you will, that the Kenyan spoke of "transforming" this country. His Communist/National Socialist proclivities have been known for a long time. I remember last year during the campaign being told by my starstruck friends that he only wants the best for America. Let's see, his friends include a Weatherman bomber/terrorist, an America-hating Minister of the Gospel (?) who lives in a $1.5 million home, various Marxist/Leninist/Maoist professors and academic colleagues, and membership in student groups in his mysterious college days who advocated these same ideas and befriended him. I was called mean, a black hater (he's as black as Tiger Woods), and (horror) a Conservative! All this calumny because I knew our enemy. So be it.

Osamas Pajamas| 11.29.09 @ 11:19PM

If the Republican leadership has more than half a brain among the lot of them, they will announce right now that if they win the majority in the next election, they will repeal and cancel the healthcare hijacking bill of the Democrats and enact their own market-based plan. Give the people some hope for change!

electronic| 11.30.09 @ 4:10AM

First of all, I wouldn't trust ANY bill punched out by the idiots in congress today.

Ted R.| 11.30.09 @ 10:27AM

Don't you Cons see that crying about the deficit now, after your boy Bush doubled the national debt, is a bit hypocritical? ...If the health reform works as planned, over the next ten years we will have saved money that would have been wasted with a Business As Usual Approach. If it works, would you still be against it? Or do you really believe we have the best health-care system around, that it can't be improved? ...I look at this message board, and I see you guys whip yourself up into a frenzy. You've convinced yourselves that Obama is headed over the cliff; you've convinced yourselves that the country wants to be pulled even further to the right than Bush was. The elections are a year away and you're already declaring victory. You know, every great president requires his chorus of naysayers - people who say it couldn't be done, people whose views are destined for the as heap of history. Thanks to the American Spectator, for providing this voice as a foil for President Barack Hussein Obama.

Richard Baker| 11.30.09 @ 7:18PM

Ted R.:
The Conservatives WERE raising Holy Hell about Bush spending the money that he did. The problem was that no reasonable argument dissuaded the Democrats and RINOs from working together to fund the bailouts. We are now $12+ trillion in debt because we Conservatives were portrayed as tightwads and skinflints and ignored in the rush to DO Something! Personally, I'd have let the banks and weak sister auto companies go into Chapter 11 and re-organize. The demand for the product remains regardless of what the name on the door is. Deadwood would have been removed and new faces would take over. Instead, we propped up poorly managed firms because they were too big to fail! Absolute nonsense. But the Conservatives fought this crap tooth and nail.

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