The American Spectator

Louis Jenkins| 11.20.09 @ 8:46AM

This morning I awoke with a very dismal feeling and notion that the Senate Health Bill will pass the senate by some hook or crook. Tonight, for those who still do, we should pray for Devine intervention, a rogue lightning strike, or something.

"Government has been moving into people's lives for a very long time -- but never quite like this."

It is inevitable that this rag of legislation will pass. Did King George listen to the colonies as they protested his and Parliament's burdensome directives? No! He only began to respond when open rebellion swept the colonies, and the response was with a heavy hand. Most of our duly elected representation will continue their head long rush over the edge. McKinnon, a few of them may be listening to common sense citizens in fly over wasteland/country and the true conservative segment of the senate will vote NAY, but it won't be enough. You see, leaders like Harry Reid know how to play the game fairly or with other means. He and his swill lapping cohorts will not lend an ear to opinions or options different than their own. It's simply not in them. Once this Health Care Reform Bill is passed, and reconciled by the House and Senate, it will tip the scale towards a socialist nation. The candle flame of freedom that our forefathers lit will be blown out, and darkness will be with us forever.

Blair McGuinness| 12.5.09 @ 6:25PM

You may have forgotten "and signed by the President"...maybe not.... I have a question for you.... What are you willing to do to prevent this country from falling into darkness forever? OK, two questions.... Do you think these current politicians will cease their actions trying to turn our capitalist country into a socialistic country voluntarily?

bluecollarbytes| 11.20.09 @ 9:03AM

Manon McKinnon: "The big question of what are we doing to our country seems missing as we discuss how we are going to do it."

What a great, to-the-point, observation.

Conservatives in the form of tea-party types are still the main public opposition to ObamaWorld. I hear some Republicans testing the waters of genuine opposition.

Nurse Diesel | 11.20.09 @ 9:41AM

Katie, Oprah and Baba are going to be twisting themselves into pretzels defending The One on this one. Especially telling (though no one will confront her about it) is, how does Miss "I Brought Sarah Down" Couric feel about rationed tests for colon cancer?

Change 2.0| 11.20.09 @ 9:59AM

I hope every women's studies professor and clueless young Obamababe are happy with that "change." And who knew Pelosi was such a self-loathing female?

Yosemeti Sam| 11.20.09 @ 10:15AM

Recalling a National Geographic magazine, years past, featuring a Jewish exhibition of glass-encased 'shoes' - memorializing the symbolic
trace fate of Holocaust victims.

Why not a memorial site of glass-encased pink and blue booties - showcasing the carnage of
unrealized human potential - viewed incidental
by the liberal-minded as debris on the alter of
'choice'.

Sue| 11.22.09 @ 5:01PM

Yosemite Sam: I remember that picture well. I used it when a high school teacher informed his class that the "holocaust" never happened.

Furious, I pulled out the Nat. Geo. article and demanded my son tell me "just whose shoes are these?" Along with the gold-filled teeth, wedding bands, etc.

These liberal nutjobs are getting to be in such large numbers that it will take each and every one of us to stand up 24 hours a day, 365 days a year for the next couple of decades.

I, for one, do not believe Americans will do it.

Al Adab| 11.20.09 @ 10:52AM

The holocaust has nothing on the numbers sacrified to the Idol choice. Millions cry out and their voices are stilled forever. Future generations (if ny survive) will look askanse and ponder how any civilized people could have pursued such policy. The obliteration of generations is our great crime. Surely God judges the nations and His justice cannot be long delayed.

Rmm| 11.20.09 @ 11:25AM

Mamma taught me never trust anyone who tells you you can get something for nothing. In other words, never fall for the hype that liberal Dems spew about Bigger government means Better government.
This is the shell game that the Left has been playing all of my days.
At this critical point in time they have never been this close to achieving their nirvana.
I will not go quietly into the darkness.
I will not be a part of a make believe democracy that rules with an iron fist.
I would rather be six feet under.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.20.09 @ 12:34PM

Mr. McKinnon
Thank you.
Louis,
Timing is everything in these waters.

Last year, when I was expressing your mindset above, I was way too far ahead of the curve with most Americans.
Even here at AmSpec, many of the writers were only expressing "concern". Some of you... "mild concerns".
The media continues to utilize that word describing Americans or Tea party patriots.

Well, sir, I am so far beyond "concern" I can't even see it in my rearview mirror, but not about the health-care issue.
The healthcare mess is only one symptom of the cancer in our capitols, National and at the State level in many States.
(One interjection, here), The old saw about Americans voting with their feet is happening right out in front my my own home, every single day. We live two blocks from a major north south freeway on the north side of Houston.
You guys would not believe the numbers of "U-Haul" trailers behind tiny crammed automobiles, still heading south. We witnessed the same thing in the 1970s, but not like this.
These little cars have the whole families in them.
...a wholesale migration.

OK, back to the timing issue. I will just skim over the top here, as I am sure everyone here can fill in the blanks. First, we gotta’ wait and see just what our congress finally does on all these power-grab bills.
In healthcare/insurance, If passed…then I can picture a literal nationwide sit-down strike among doctors, hospitals, and insurance company personnel. Many…many successful doctors are right now preparing to opting out through retirement or “sabbaticals”. Hospitals with a religious underpinning are considering the same options, or perhaps going to “skeleton staff” variations.
See, the way the bills are structured the “bite” may not begin to throb for several years, other than the “tax” bite”. Repeal…or at least refusing to fund the monster by a new congress could shut it down.
Bottom thought here. I am convinced the American people will rise up and send these jerks into a disgraced retirement…and perhaps without their pensions.
They have destroyed many of ours. …Good for the gander.

pugsley| 11.20.09 @ 1:07PM

Ken-are they headed north or south? I remember in the 70's all the mid westerners coming into OK looking for work in the oil fields. They would see our trucks and come running over wanting to know how to get to the Anadarko Basin. Read in some mid west newspaper about work as floor hands. Didn't have a clue what a floor hand did but they didnt care, just wanted to get there. Had their whole family piled into a 10-15 year old car with a few belongings on top. Dustbowlish for sure and made you proud you had your own job. Saw lots of folks living out of cars with small children sleeping in the dead of winter in the back of station wagons. I guess the old saying that which does not kill us makes us stronger.

Louis Jenkins| 11.20.09 @ 4:42PM

Dear Old Texican:

This am I felt dark and morose, even after a second cup of Joe. Usually I like the mornings, as it holds the promise of what can be. No excuse sir, just a bad feeling along with an L-5 disc that keeps barking at me. Haven't thrown in the towel yet. And I remember your posts from last year. Yes, the nation must continue this infant form rally for the political fight ahead.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.20.09 @ 1:21PM

...Makes us stronger...but maybe leaves THEM just as stupid as they were back home. Yech!

Yes...they are headed HERE!

We had something like 5% unemployment here before the exodous from where-ever. We are now at 7.5% or so....already.
I have had hundreds of them ask me where they could sign up for a union card here. HEH HEH HEH!
Stupid seems to follow stupids.

pugsley| 11.20.09 @ 1:33PM

Ken-well if they can't get the union card maybe they can get the gov bennies. We will probably wind up paying for it in the end anyway. As the ebb and flow of jobs slosh around the country these types always move on to greener pastures. I remember when the oil field crashed in the 80's all the midwesterners suddenly vanished back where they came from, seems their home country had jobs opening up so back they went. This time around I kind of wonder though, the apprehension out there seems palpable in the people, kind of like waiting on the other shoe to drop. With this bunch we have in DC it could be anytime now.

ken (Old Texican)| 11.20.09 @ 2:45PM

Pugsley
When 'the other shoe" drops, millions of us will put our foot down,....and we are the producers.
http://judgeroy.wordpress.com

John OB| 11.20.09 @ 3:45PM

To those Senate Democrats on the health care fence: I do not see the American people surrendering their liberty to that 2000 page bureaucratic tyranny which sits before you today. When the story of this ruinous piece of legislation is written, will your name appear as one of it's egregious facilitators--on the wrong side of history?
This legislation has been referred to as the Moby Dick of the Democrat Party. That is quite prophetic, because, if you do lash on , you, and other Democrats like you, will be carried out to sea and out of politics for good.

dumanddummer| 11.20.09 @ 6:19PM

john ob,
and dead also i hope.

Gerald Stephens| 11.20.09 @ 6:59PM

TIMES LIKE THESE...

I try to imagine what went through General Washington's thoughts while retreating before the English onslaught. But there came the moment at Trenton, New Jersey. He and the citizen soldiers with him seized on that moment and the rest is almost history.

Almost, because then more hard work lay ahead. Yet again the citizens prevailed. They created a lynch pin to secure the essence of the new nation, a Constitution. A document like no other ever created by man.

It is the most powerful and perfect antidote for the contemporary maladies of irresponsible and illegal federal government actions.

The citizen army, just as revolutionary soldiers gathered to the battle, is assembling. It marches as the Tea Party, Right to Work, Pro-life, Pro 2nd Amendment, Birthers, and on and on.

We are further strengthened by a class of political leadership dedicated to the 'meaning of the Constitution as intended by those who wrote it' and Constitutional lawyer scholars prepared to wage war against those believing otherwise.

We the people will prevail. Reach out TODAY. Find a brigade to march with. If you have a political representative who shares your beliefs, support them.

I recently discovered a group which has taken on the name, mantle and purpose of organizing against tyranny as did the Colonials. The historic name, Committees of Safety. Its latter day founder, Walter Reddy. I know he would be delighted to speak with you: wbr1952@gmail.com

"It ain't over til the fat lady sings".

Gerald Stephens
Hartford, CT

Tenn Slim| 11.22.09 @ 8:50AM

Opine
NE Arkansas and Western Tn folks simply will igonre the requirements if passed. We have a decent system of HC via Clinics, and University HC systems, that work. Docs, Nurses and staffers will continue to function, and indeed, there will be "retirements". We will survive.
Freedom here is as close to our hearts as the cotton fields our folks worked for years.
Liberty is not a word, it is the Cold Dead Hand of the NRA and our past heritage. We will prevail
Semper Fi
end

Richard Baker| 11.22.09 @ 10:31AM

In the History books and journals of the future, this contemptuous treatment of the American citizenry will be considered on par with the Intolerable and Stamp Acts which were precursors to the Revolution against King George and will be signposts on the way to the next Revolution. Arrogance and contempt for the citizenry will be found to be the common thread for both events. To all you liberals, "You ain't seen bad, but it's coming."

Kevin Gutzman| 11.22.09 @ 12:55PM

It's funny to see George Bush and Karl Rove commenting on the allure of limited government and economic freedom. Wasn't it they who gave us No Child Left Behind, the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit, and the Bush-Bernanke Bailout Bill?

How dumb do we look?

Sue| 11.22.09 @ 5:06PM

It's how politics works. In the case of a "republic" it's not been working very well since FDR for sure. Notice how since the Medicare Presp. drug issue was taken "off the table" the Dems came up with "universal health care?"

We probably would be better served with a parlimentary style government where we can "vote" the party out BEFORE it does the damage.

The "parties" are the problem. The issue is "power-sharing" between the two of them and I think we should stop the "power-sharing" and every two years vote out "whoever" and if no challenger to vote on, the people should be allowed to "leave the seat vacant."

I would like to see "Mr. Vacancy" win at least 90% of the seats - no quorum, no business conducted.

Pipe dreams, I know.

Sue| 11.22.09 @ 5:00PM

Yosemite Sam: I remember that picture well. I used it when a high school teacher informed his class that the "holocaust" never happened.

Furious, I pulled out the Nat. Geo. article and demanded my son tell me "just whose shoes are these?" Along with the gold-filled teeth, wedding bands, etc.

These liberal nutjobs are getting to be in such large numbers that it will take each and every one of us to stand up 24 hours a day, 365 days a year for the next couple of decades.

I, for one, do not believe Americans will do it.

Tony in Central PA| 11.23.09 @ 9:02PM

Again we see the exposition of the liberal idea that the nation should be steered by cultural / governmental elite. The irony is that this top - down idea of governace isn't even democratic.
Great picture of Madame Pelosi - -" I'm ready for my close -up ".

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