At a town hall meeting in the White House last week, a woman told President Obama about her 105-year-old mother Hazel Homer who had a pacemaker implanted five years ago after first being denied the procedure because she was "too old." When the heart specialist was shown how vibrant and active this Centenarian was, that decision was reversed, and the woman is still alive today because she received her pacemaker, something that never would have happened under the kind of government-run healthcare President Obama envisions for America.
The daughter had a very simple question for the president: Under whatever new healthcare system he and the Congress might devise, will there be room in it for the kinds of medical decisions that saved her mother's life -- idiosyncratic decisions based on a person's "spirit" and vitality rather than decisions made by rote and formula, which in this case would have determined her mother was "too old" to treat?
Sensing a trap that would put him in a political bind, the president tap-danced around for a few minutes and then blurted out something about sometimes people will just have to forego a medical procedure and take a pain pill instead -- all for the "greater good," one presumes.
You can imagine the fun talk radio had with that one. But I have watched the video, and I have watched President Obama, and frankly I do not believe had he been in the room when that woman's mother's case was decided that he would have objected. In other words, had the president -- the man, not the politician, not the bureaucrat -- been placed in the role that a doctor should be in -- which is precisely to act as a man, not a bureaucrat, and make these kinds of idiosyncratic decisions if the situation demands it -- he too would probably have thrown all the rules of thumb, rote procedures and comparative cost effectiveness criteria out the window and given her the pacemaker.
But that is the problem with bureaucratic medicine, that's what happens when the hospital morphs into the DMV, which is precisely what the president is trying to foist on the American public in the name of cost control and equal access to equal care for all. Once the government takes over medicine and hands it over to the bureaucrats to run, there is no humanity, only bureaucrats. There is no room for "gut decisions" based on experience and informed intuition, no latitude for evaluations that cannot be fit neatly into a formula or an algorithm and justified by checking off boxes on a form. When bureaucrats practice medicine, they are no more compassionate than an IRS agent or a DMV drone.
The human notions of spirit and vitality are the very antithesis of bureaucratic thinking. For the bureaucrat there are only statistical aggregates, speculative averages and abstract projections. And, oh yes, there are budgets, which means one size must fit all. And ultimately, that means there will be rationing, delay, denial and deterioration of care.
There is a segment of voters that so dislikes Barack Obama they fight every political battle with him on personal terms, as if he -- the man -- is the issue rather than the policies he promotes. These voters will constantly be frustrated in their inability to carry the day against him, and they will lose the fight against government-run healthcare unless they change strategies.
There simply are not enough Obama haters to defeat his policies. In order to protect American citizens against such crazy policies as government-run, bureaucratic medicine, it will be necessary to raise the level of discourse, not out of a fastidious sense of fair play, but out of strategic necessity. In order to defeat Obama's crazy policies, the battle must be elevated above the likable, popular man. That means it is necessary to inform and convince people that while Obama the man might be a great and likable guy, his ideas and policies are misguided, ill conceived and dangerous, especially for older people.
As the 105-year-old mother of the president's questioner demonstrates, it's not venal politicians who do the most harm but politicians of good intentions, good men who have too many bad ideas and too much power to force them on everyone else who put us all in jeopardy. Good men with good intentions possessing too much power and too little knowledge about the way the world works, that is how "policy" becomes just another word for "atrocity." That is how government-run healthcare could kill grandma. That is why Americans of good sense and good will demand to Opt Out of ObamaCare.
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Big J| 6.29.09 @ 6:57AM
"...good men with good intentions..."? Sorry, but looking around Washington, I just don't see that. Do you think Barack Obama is a good man with good intentions?
Tell you what I think. I think he is a vengeful, anti-American socialist that was raised without a father, family values and character. He intends to return "wealth" to it's "rightful owners": the poor have been put upon by the wealthy for far too long in Obama's eyes, and he means set things right.
A good man with good intentions? Where did you get that one? I just don't see it.
St. Thor| 6.29.09 @ 7:41AM
I am sure Hitler and Saddam Hussein started out as "good men with good intentions".
Melvin| 6.29.09 @ 8:04AM
This is exactly what happens when man puts himself into the position to play God.
Like many have said all along that President Barrack Obama is one of the most callous bastards they have ever seen... And I believe they're right.
Are we going to sit and take this quietly while this Leftist Socialist gains the power to act like a Roman Caesar with thumbs up you live or thumbs down you die?
Eric Damon| 6.29.09 @ 8:32AM
The thing the author does not understand, or simply chooses to gloss over, is that this is very personal and it will be discussed and fought at a personal level. A politician, especially a president, forms his policy positions from deeply held PERSONAL beliefs...not from dry working papers. A belief in nearly unconditional engagement with our enemies; taking over private businesses; standing mute in the face of massive protests for freedom in Iran; attempting to destroy the domestic energy sector in pursuit of 'green strategies'; and the push to make the government the masters of our healthcare sector are all comiing from his personal beliefs. These beliefs have been shaped, nutured, and developed over years and give us a horrifying glimpse into the mind of the person who sits on the Oval Office. And giving him the benefit of the doubt on these issues is very hard for most of us because we have seen him do nothing to EARN that benefit of the doubt.
hoads| 6.29.09 @ 8:41AM
I think you narrowed the crux of the problem with Obamacare. Obamacare provisions will put the nail in the coffin of individualized patient care. Patients will become a statistic and their care will be rendered based upon a government mandated algorithm financed by a global healthcare budget. Healthcare becomes all about "the system" and not about you.
Robert Rosencrans| 6.29.09 @ 9:14AM
On several occasions when Obama has presented with a seemingly difficult question his off the cuff answers indicate a lack of depth. This would appear to indicate that he should keep repeating the same answer that he gave on abortion, "That's above my pay grade."
Becky| 6.29.09 @ 9:34AM
Obama cares about every aspect of our lives. He assumes he knows better what kind of health care we can have and how much, what kind of car to drive, how high or cool to set our home thermostats, how much money is ok to earn, etc.
He is the avenue for utopian dreams to be implemented (along with a willing Congress). His success will be the end of American ideals, that is individualism will in fact be dead. While many think that his favoritism of union workers is kind to union workers, think again. They are stuck in collective lives already, that is why they are so easy for a utopian to control.
I think there will be a lot of black market care, resulting in further crack downs, etc. as Hayek noted, all socialism ideas end up in less and less freedom, implemented by men not afraid to act in public contrary to internal beliefs.
I am personally most mad at my freinds and family that thought they were really cool in voting for an unknown entity, and not taking time to evaluate him.
ccc| 6.29.09 @ 10:37AM
What's the difference between 105 year old being denied a pace maker because of a beuracratic rule and 105 yr old being denied a pace maker cause she doesn't have tens of thousands of dollars lying around for surgery? Not much as far as she is concerned.
Health care is already rationed according to wealth, that's the nature of market economies. The market is not utopian but it does tend towards efficiency. And like everything else in this country if you have enough money you can get whatever service you want, but almost no one has enough money.
Old Texican| 6.29.09 @ 11:22AM
ccc
May I differ?
That elderly lady no doubt is covered by Medicare.
TODAY, if your doctor says 'go'...Medicare pays, (80%)
If your doctor says..."no go"...you can get another doctor...to say "go".
Today, a doctor's prescription...IS SACROSANCT!
I guarantee you, once the govt. gets a near monopoly, that will change. Why? "Because I Won"
Harold| 6.29.09 @ 11:28AM
President Obama demonstrates that he is driven by an ideology--an ideology that appeared with major impact during the French Revolution. Obama does NOT believe in the principles of the American Revoluton which focused on the rights of the individual and protecting property. Obama DOES believe in the power of the state to exercise supreme authority over the individual. This is what Robespierre believed. The individual had no value because the supreme value rested in the state controlled by wise men who knew what was best. The French Revoution led directly to Napoleon who became a dictator with a powerful impact on the world. Obama is an economic illiterate with fantasies of borrowing money to finance his grandiose plans. He is taking the same path that led to the downfall of General Motors, incurring tremendous debt because of his belief in his infallable powers. This man is going to ruin our country.
Bill Pearce| 6.29.09 @ 11:47AM
Speaking of the local DMV, I was denied a Drivers License on the weird condition I applied for a routine renewal of the license a month before the 60 grace period. Apparently so many people were applying for a Drivers License at or after the renewal deadline, the clerk could not imagine anyone would apply early. It was simpler to deny service then having to think that issuing a license early was a lawful act .
Consider the governmental instinct to deny service when any thing deviates from the norm is applied to health care. If you do not get sick on governmental proscribed timetable, you will be out of luck. After all your death will be a benefit to the governmental clerks as they no longer have to process your paperwork. Your death will be the governmental gain. Consider when you die the government gets one half of your wealth, no longer has to provide any services, and gets to keep any monies put into the governmental systems. Your health care will soon be in the hands of a group that has a financial reason to see you dead. Also the governmental clerks have no downside in putting you in your grave. They will be following a lawful order. You will be maimed or dead.
Best of luck under Obama care, you will need it.
JP| 6.29.09 @ 12:32PM
During the ABC Informercial last week, a neurologist asked President Obama if he and the other lawmakers would be covered with the exact same policies as the everyone else. He stuttered and equivicated, and eventually changed the subject. The obvious answer is : No. They and thier families will be enjoy the finest health care in the world, as illustrated by the remarkable recovery of Senator Kennedy.
This debate must be framed along those lines. What entitles elected officials the exemption from the laws that they write?
Michael Tomlinson| 6.29.09 @ 1:00PM
Mr. Hunter is too kind in accessing the personality of Barack Obama. His cold hearted response to "take a pain pill" is 100% Barack Obama. The man is a ruthless ideologue whose policies are rooted in his narcissism and neo-fascist ideology. Of course, he and his family should be treated better than the rest of us peons he despises. That’s typical liberal Democrat “compassion.”
While too many conservatives have thrown up their hands in surrender to Obama's cult of personality the fact is we need to not only attack his policies, but his integrity, honesty and compassion – tear down the “superstar” and reveal the cold-blooded demagogue that now occupies the White House. Until conservatives have the guts to take on the man he will win the debate and votes (illustrated by the victory of his energy tax in the House). Obama is no giant he’s a self-absorbed, arrogant and pretentious snob ready for a fall if we've got the strength to kick his feet out from under him (Note: John McCain’s greatest success was when he attacked Obama’s finely crafted “President of the World” image).
We need to quit cowering in his presence and remember politics is civil war without the bloodshed and start fighting the man, the myth and the legend. Fail to do this and no matter how destructive he is to the country he’ll be reelected in 2012, because just enough Americans are mesmerized by star power to vote for “national suicide.”
mmw| 6.29.09 @ 1:23PM
I don't recall ASKING for Washington to meddle with health care! Talk about audacity! Anyone out there want government health care? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone out there want Government Motors? Anyone? Anyone?
pgc| 6.29.09 @ 2:44PM
Does anyone find it odd that Obama's health care plan has ".. no room for "gut decisions" based on experience and informed intuition, no latitude for evaluations that cannot be fit neatly into a formula or an algorithm and justified by checking off boxes on a form. " yet chooses Supreme Court justices that use precisely that criteria to interpret the law?
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 6.29.09 @ 2:53PM
Mr. Hunter, I rarely consider an American Spectator columnist to be totally mistaken. But you are. obumassiah has already demonstrated exactly what his response would have been had “he been in the room when that woman's mother's case was decided”. He would have decided to let her die. Consider these following points: 1) The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution states that all persons born in our nation are U.S. citizens. 2) When given the opportunity to vote to save infants who were born alive in spite of the efforts of their mothers and criminal physicians to kill them, he voted to deny these children life-saving care. 3) The very name of the bill which he opposed was called “The Born Alive Infant Protection Act” which concedes the point that these children have in fact been born and are, therefore, full citizens of this country and entitled to every legal and constitutional protection. 4) In defense of his position he blubbed some nonsense about their lives being inconvenient. 5) As a so-called Constitutional law professor, surely he knew each of these babies were every bit the citizen he claims himself to be. I cannot belabor this point enough. He voted to kill U.S. citizens. He favors exempting himself, his family, members of con-gress and their families, even the un-yons from his healthcare plan, because he knows that his ambitions if realized will grant him and his czars licenses to kill those of us they deem inconvenient.
Marcell| 6.29.09 @ 3:01PM
There simply are not enough Obama haters to defeat his policies. In order to protect American citizens against such crazy policies as government-run, bureaucratic medicine, it will be necessary to raise the level of discourse, not out of a fastidious sense of fair play, but out of strategic necessity.
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Interesting article
Mainly because it points out the flaw in today's conservatism; it has always been clear to me that today's version of Conservatism is intellectually bankrupt concerning the issues that most people want our politicians to solve.
I know that statement may bend some of you out of shape, but the Republican alternative to the Democratic Party's health care plan makes it easy for moderate & independents to support the Democrats plan.
It is as if all conservatives seem to be good at is despising the opposition.
The sad thing is that when other Republicans point out the flaws in many of the Limbaugh type's rhetoric, they are then shouted out & forced to shut up & follow their, the Limbaugh types, mindless leads.
All of it reminds me of what has been wrong with the Oakland Raiders for years; Al Davis (Rush Limbaugh) has far too many yes men who blindly follow his lead, even if it is off a cliff.
The Republicans are in full control of the health care debate, yet they have a weak alternative to the Democrats plan.
I also don't believe the conservatives have the intellectual moxie to counter the Dems. It is as if they need to lose more elections in order to get the desperately needed people in the right places to help guide their political party out of the wilderness.
Right now, all the Limbaugh types have to do is couch their arguments in ways that makes it seems as if those who disagree with their tactics are trying to give them some version of Powell's moderate views & their base will accept the continuance of their clueless wondering.
Connie Boyd| 6.29.09 @ 3:08PM
I linked to this article from this headline in Real Clear Politics: "Leave Medical Decisions to Doctors." I thought it was about reproductive rights for women. Never mind.
WPS| 6.29.09 @ 3:23PM
Our problem in all of this is that we have let the states lose any control over what we do in this country. States rights have gone away. Whit that we can not vote out the people we disagree with in the HOUSE and the Senet. We have given all our rights away in the last 80 years.
Bill in NC| 6.29.09 @ 3:49PM
The private insurance companies are raping the working class. We need a government program like Medicare to keep the honest. Don't worry folks, you can keep your Blue Cross, where housewives in Iowa decide to deny your cancer treatments because they're too expensive.
Old Texican| 6.29.09 @ 4:01PM
Marcell
I never quite used my scroll button on you.
(Now I shall.)
Dumbbunny, this ain't "win baby win." (meaningless sports contests.)
Your ilk simply do not understand the dimensions of the debate quite yet.
Let me 'splain it to you!
Idiots like you are driving us toward Civil War!
(PS: "conservative" noun, verb, adverb, adjective versions, OK?)
DEFINITION: "conserve the best; but study new alternatives that might work better. Implement when indicated."
"Sir, you simply do not understand the end result of your words. The end result might very well be the deaths of millions of Americans.
Those of us who make a living ...serving our fellow men...are going to be forced to fight you who do not make a living...serving your fellow men.
WHY?
Limbaugh expresses what WE think!
IF>>>IF>>> the jerks silence Rush...the Civil War will commence.
Some 40 million Americans now drop in on Rush every day.
You want to dismiss their...(my), heart-felt convictions?
(Do so at your own risk, there in your momma's basement notwithstanding.)
We will win... because in the final analysis you people are cowards.
So...I will dismiss your posts henceforward.
Pat| 6.29.09 @ 4:02PM
Obama is currently, not the future, managing CEO of socialized medicine, except we call it Medicare. So, what the government is doing is saving Medicare by immersing it in a new, vastly expanded form of socialized medicine.
There are a number of reasons for coming to Medicare's aid - being broke is the primary one. Forecasters note Medicare's costs will rise at 5 times the rate of increase compared to the Social Security system's monthly stipends - so Medicare is the 800 pound gorilla and budget killer in the room, not the modest monthly stipends from the SS system.
Notice how Obama emphasizes "efficiency" and "cost containment" when he does his commercials for Obamacare? And computerizing all medical records isn't just for saving lives or to prevent the issuance of prescriptions that may be harmful. It's actually to better manage health care costs in anticipation of an enormously expanded federal program and something the private insurance companies would envy and love to have.
Medicare presently sits on a vast pile of IOU's from the Treasury, the result of the Treasury collecting Medicare payroll taxes and spending the money on current federal expenses. In a word, Medicare is welfare plain and simple. But the fiction that oldsters "have it coming" because they paid into the system their entire working lives persists. The money they paid for health care is long gone but the empty "promise" lives on. And you don't mess around with the irrational desires of tens of millions of retired people. Nor do you try the patience of 70 million Boomers entering retirement over the next 20 years.
Demographics will prevent the government from saving Medicare under the current form of payroll taxation - so a new form of funding must be devised. National Health Care is the answer and Medicare will be folded into a larger system with all the bureaucracy and cost containment guidelines an army of federal workers can dream up.
And, no, the federal health care plans of Congress, the Supreme Court justices and the President won't be subject to "cost containment" - rulers, whether the result of the divine right of kings or the popular vote of the "people", never apply the same restrictions to themselves.
Pingback| 6.29.09 @ 4:12PM
To the Arrogant Bastard in the Oval Office: Go Screw Yourself « Elephant4Life links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
elephant4life| 6.29.09 @ 4:32PM
"Harold| 6.29.09 @ 11:28AM.....This is what Robespierre believed." Anybody remember what happened to Robespierre, and also that the so-called reign of terror essentially ended at the same time? Well, if that's what the government of the United States eventually decides to do, I won't cry, but he would surely go kicking and screaming the whole way.
"Gill O’Teen 6.29.09 @ 2:53PM
obumassiah has already demonstrated exactly what his response would have been had 'he been in the room when that woman's mother's case was decided'. He would have decided to let her die. "
I agree. The same way he thinks it's okay to let babies die who are born alive. The same way he evaluates every person in the United States in terms of their value as 1) a likely voter 2) a potential slave to the state 3) a burden to the state.
ObysMal is nothing more than a "cold-hearted snake. Look into his eyes".
Marcell| 6.29.09 @ 4:38PM
Hi Old Texican
Boy do I enjoy reading your spewed nonsense in my direction.
I know you believe in small government & preserving the conservative ideals that has created America’s worse recession in years. Yet, while your kind is claiming that Obama's agenda is detrimental to our society, your alternatives are worse than his.
... Oh, I forgot that you don't believe that the federal government should be in the business of solving problems, while both parties use the federal government just for that purpose.
Yesterday, I was explaining to a friend why I thought it was important to have a strong & vibrant the importance Republican Party to counter the Democrats; I am from California & clearly see why we shouldn't have one Party or ideology ruling the masses.
Noooo, I am not trying to silence the Rush types, they are an important part of the equation, but I do realize the intellectual bankruptcy in telling people what they want to hear, even if it is wrong; I also understand how the spin pays like it weighs.
KyMouse| 6.29.09 @ 5:08PM
My only experience with government medicine was during my time in the Army Reserve. Although I have a lot of respect for medical personnel in the military (I was in a medical detachment and a helicopter ambulance unit), there was one incident that I'll pass along for a little comic relief.
My unit needed to receive a pair of injections one day (for what, I don't recall), one in each arm. We were told to line up and file between two guys -- one administered one kind of vaccine, and the other guy, the other vaccine.
One of the men in my unit was going to have to do a lot of writing the next day, and so he asked if he could have the one designated for the right arm injected into his left arm instead (he believed the right-arm vaccine would make his muscles sorer).
He talked with the two guys for some time, but they looked at him as if he were nuts. "Can't you just trade shots?" he asked. "I'll make a note so that if there is a bad reaction, the medics will know which arm got which vaccine."
Finally, they settled on a solution: The guys wouldn't exchange syringes, but they did let him turn around and face the people in line behind him when they "shot" him. That way, he got each vaccine in the arm he preferred, and they didn't have to change their routine.
Well, it struck me as funny back then. Really.
craeh| 6.29.09 @ 5:32PM
Thank you Marcell for being able to articulate so clearly my thoughts and opinions, especially to those very vocal conservatives who can present no argument or discussion without name-calling.
JimBeam| 6.29.09 @ 7:22PM
Yet another conservative commentator who fails to recognize that we already have bureaucratic medicine.
Are the people who run and manage our health plans and health insurance not bureaucrats? Do they not make the same decisions to extend or deny coverage based on formulas?
Every other developed nation in the world has some sort of socialized health plan. Some involve government delivery of services, others are single payer, and others rely on a subsidized market. If Republicans were smart, they would propose adopting a system that relies on market principles to increase choice and keep costs down. Instead, they choose to stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well while the rest of us know that we are only an illness away from losing everything.
Tina| 6.29.09 @ 8:07PM
The author is right. This is very scary. It should be scary for the baby boomers as well as they grow older. What if medical care is not available for them because they are too old to matter?
jasontl| 6.29.09 @ 8:09PM
The sad thing is that Obama's campaign ran ad after ad in Florida to scare the seniors that McCain would mess with their social security and medicare. Talk about deception.
TJK| 6.29.09 @ 8:41PM
Deception, lies, obfuscation... that's what this administration has proven so adept at. But really, those who voted for Obama will tell you this is exactly what they were hoping for. Why? Because his voting base has been brain-washed to believe that our system is fundamentally flawed and that capitalism is evil. Case in point- the Chhicago Tribune ran a story last week that Obama claimed he was "95% cured" of smoking. To which I posted a simple comment that that is the same percentage our taxes will be by this time next year. You would be surprised how many Obama-ites responded to my posting saying that I was obviously rich and they were entitled to take my money (along those lines). I was stunned, but then realized that this sums up the attitude of his backers- why earn when you can take, why strive when you can get hand-outs? I head a conversation the other day at a party, one neighbor was trying to compare their mortgage to their neighbor's. Couple A was upset that Couple B's mortgage payment was less than theirs, and how unfair that was. No consideration for whether couple B might have saved more money for their downpayment, maybe they searched for a better rate, no, it was just unfair that they should be paying more than couple B. This is the mentality we are fighting against, and I am afraid this war will be unwinnable. Did anyone hear today when Pelosi said she will NOT post for public view the final version of the House's health care reform bill? So Obama promises that bills will be posted for 5 days, yet Pelosi says, "Not in my house"? I guess we know who is truly running the country.
Marcell| 6.29.09 @ 8:42PM
The Dems government ran health care rhetoric is sort of the same hog wash we heard from Bu$h when they tried to take social security & invest it on the stock market.
Basso| 6.29.09 @ 8:46PM
There is an assumption made by the patient's daughter, the author and many people writing here that many if not most doctors would not have behaved the same as the treating doctor. The daughter did not state that Medicare denied coverage. What was done was good medicine, cost effective medicine and even if it was initially rejected, it could be reversed on appeal. Everyone assumes that what the author assumed private insurance companies would not reject the claim. This case was a straw man.
There are legitimate reasons to be concerned that Obama's overly simplistic "science knows" approach needs to be reviewed by a responsible insurance reviewer who was a former physician.
A government sponsored program can be done responsibly without capitulating to health care abusers, such as most radiologists. The answer lies in making doctors responsible for what they do. Radiologist as are most physicians are held to a level of responsibility that is unrealistic and self defeating from the general publics standpoint.
Marcell| 6.29.09 @ 8:53PM
TJK| 6.29.09 @ 8:41PM
Deception, lies, obfuscation... that's what this administration has proven so adept at. But really, those who voted for Obama will tell you this is exactly what they were hoping for. Why? Because his voting base has been brain-washed to believe that our system is fundamentally flawed and that capitalism is evil.
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I am still proud of the fact that I voted for Obama.
You have to get past the dough dough heads rhetoric / false info, because it is mindless & it makes you look the same when you say Democrats hate capitalism; most of the Democratic Party's politicians are invested heavily in the business market.
The one thing I have always believed is that the conservatives are extremely intelligent when it comes to their private businesses, but they are clueless when it comes to politics.
Jack in Oregon| 6.29.09 @ 10:35PM
Obamacare has 9 of the 10 attributes of a "soft tyranny" found at www.StreamingLiberty.com
In particular to this article:
Attribute 6: "Government action is arbitrary and at the descretion of "czars" and planning boards"
Gene44| 6.30.09 @ 4:22AM
It appears from his comment that Obama has no thought for anyone but his own family. He dodged the questions about his coverage and the coverage for all the lawmakers who should be the leaders in taking this new national health plan, but, if they opt out, then why should we pay for it.
TJK| 6.30.09 @ 7:48AM
Nice try, Marcell, but I can judge for myself, and these are observations of Obama-ites that I encounter on a daily basis. They have no desire other than a push toward socialism, which is NOT capitalism. And the people they elect to office are going right along with them, so please, save your anti-conservative rantings for someone who doesn't know better.
Richard Baker| 6.30.09 @ 8:05AM
The bureaucrat IS the man.
Rapnsum| 6.30.09 @ 9:46AM
I know one thing- Obama care will include big bucks to Planned Parenthood. Obama and every African American should watch a new film called Maafa21 it will scare you as far away from Planned Parenthood as you can run. Check out a small clip here:www.maafa21.com
Sue| 6.30.09 @ 2:44PM
Oh, my. Obama a "great and likable guy?" "His policies are ill-conceived, misguided and dangerous." So what's to like about the man? He can "shoot hoops," attends church with the Reverend Wright ilk; perhaps by denying Washington, D.C. inner-city black children, vouchers for private schools would make him even more likable; or maybe the fact that he believes a woman has the "right" to kill her baby's soul right up until birth?
I don't know about you, Mr. Hunter, but he is not a person that I would like, or even admire. Get real! There is a certain segment of this society that has been so brow-beaten into race consciousness that to say ANYTHING against him would be racist in their minds. Furthermore, they would call you a racist if you even criticized the man. Once they come to their senses, they will realize that even they wouldn't want to play cards or shoot hoops or have a beer with the man, or even drink expensive wine and down some kind of goat cheese. Many a Hollywood star has fallen once the curtains were lowered and his star would have fallen a lot faster if the media were doing their jobs instead of "fawning" all over him as though they were asking "do you think he likes me?" "Oh, I wonder if it's like or like, like."
Likable? No, I think he may have an engaging smile, but it ends there. How about the "middle finger to Hillary" ploy? Or other such childish, unbecoming leadership traits - the most recent - at a press conference where he derisively dismisses John McCain's concerns about Iran and mocks McCain and laughs arrogantly about it with the questioner! That didn't make him likable in my book. It made him small and classless.
If he keeps up exposing his true personality traits, the Country won't be able to stomach him for long.
Richard Baker| 6.30.09 @ 4:34PM
Only Americans will trumpet their impending loss of Liberty and Freedom as a great benefit from the government. Marcell, craeh, et al seem to think that this loss of Liberty will, obviously, not affect them. What was it Lenin called such folks? Hmmmm?
faux pas city| 7.2.09 @ 12:56AM
Remember Katrina? Remember the victims smashing store windows, stealing TVs and $500 tennis shoes? Remember the Cash Cards? Remember the frugal use of them? Tattoos, dope, lap dances. Louis Vuitton handbags. . .
Obama's got his Cash Card and the mentality to match - spending it just as wisely. Has his own Secretary of the Treasury, tax cheat Timothy Geithner, to keep the printing presses rolling to send out another wave of $timulus checks to the living and the dead. When the natives get restless, send 'em $250. That will quiet them down, while he continues pillaging with Crap & Trade and Health Care.
Just remember, He was the People's Choice!
Bruce Hagwood| 7.3.09 @ 10:49PM
"Likeable"? Please, give me a break. Obama is a self serving, self absorbed immature fatherless brat that wants his way at all costs. He fancies himself the king of the world and will stop at nothing less.
Governemnt Motor Corp...... I have owned a GM auto for over 25 years, and I will never own another. I can't decide if its because I paid 50G for a suburban and before it was paid off the electric windows stopped working and had various other problems. Or if it is because during their"New" GM commercials there was a statue of a giant iron fist emblazoned across the screen. Why don't we just erect a statue of Stalin....I mean Obama behind it?
As for Obama-care, I can't even begin to imagine our health care in the hands of those who abuse it most. Health insurance is and should be like any other insurance: There when you need it for major problems...not preventive maintenance.
I worked hard for my education and worked hard for what I have accomplished, without any help from those who seemingly have more than I....Why would any reasonable, thinking person feel that we have to "catch up" those behind us....That is not how America was founded. The government should only have to take care of those who physically can not take care of themselves. If someone is too trifling, sorry, lazy and stupid to take care of themselves, then it certainly is not my responsibiliy to take care of them. Only the lazy, trifling and stupid could ever want a government to provide for their needs anyway. The government should be there to assist the people in maintaining law and order, not dictating lifestyles, building cars, telling me what light bulb to use or dictating health care.
I do agree however, that instead of a constant barrage of complaints, we need to have better plans to present in opposition to the socialist plans or the socialists, communists...democrats will continue to sweep their bills through.
Yes we needed change, and I feel that "W" was somewhat of a blabbering idiot, however, he is a patriot and proud to be an American. I never questioned my safety with dub....with Obamustaffa, I question everything.
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Single payer would take health care cost of the P/L of those businesses that offer health coverage. No to taxing health premiums. Why mandates? Why would a health care program be coercive? How could anyone mandate that my 83 yr old mom do anything?
With his czars and mandates Obama has shown that he has a dictotorial streak. Consequently I don't trust his policies.
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We all talk about this cruel, narcissistic man and how it appears he is raping and slaughtering our American way of life, but what can we do to stop him?
The tea parties are great and are slowly gaining momentum.
There is a great blogger, libbyliberal, who talked about the stages of grief and how Americans are sad that the person we voted for on the platform of change and hope has died or never really existed.
He or she talked about entering the stage past denial, of depression and deep sadness. He talked about wearing a black armband to signify the death of American freedom and hope.
My fear is that if we don't stand up we are dooming ourselves, children and grandchildren to a nation moving toward fascism.
I think we should start a movement.
I will wear a black armband to symbolize how I feel and to honor all the victims of the Holocaust.
If you go back in history you will see that in almost all aspects Obama is very similar to Hitler.
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I already have bureaucrats making those decisions; they're called insurance company clerical workers, whose decisions can override those of my doctors. What's the difference?
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