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Might As Well Have Said It

An interpretation of Churchill -- Geoffrey Norman replies. Honest Abe wasn't so bad. Government generosity. Plus more.

NEWSFLASH: POLITICIANS DISSEMBLE
Re: Richard M. Langworth's letter (under "A Red Herring") in Reader Mail's Misquoting an Ally:

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a neo anything. Funny how a little prefix has become so loaded, isn't it. But that is another question.

I'm sorry that I didn't know the entire story of that Churchill quote. If I had, I would have added the fact that Churchill confirmed giving the interview but denied the quote. But Mr. Churchill was a political man -- arguably the finest specimen of the breed we have ever seen, but still a political man. And political men are not beyond denying that they have said things which they, indeed, did say. Especially when there is a good reason behind the denial. Churchill had such reason. Namely, he didn't want to come off as sourly ungrateful about the U.S. role in the first World War with Hitler showing every sign he was eager for a rematch; one for which Mr. Churchill's country was woefully unprepared, as he'd been urgently telling anyone who would listen. He no doubt figured he'd need American's help in round two and didn't need so sound like he regretted our assistance in the first one.

So I'd say it's even money that Churchill did make the remarks as the man who published them swore, under oath, he did.

Anyway, I got the quote from a book of military history -- J.F.C. Fuller's Decisive Battles of the Western World -- and if Mr. Churchill did not say it, I apologize to him and to Spectator readers none of whom, I'm sure, doubt that the sentiments in that quote were at one time widely shared in Europe can be logically and historically defended to this day.
-- Geoffrey Norman 

HEAR, HEAR
Re: Geoffrey Norman's Ninety-Two Years and Counting:

As an Englishman, I accept most of Mr. Norman's assertions. I think that in Europe in particular, and less so in Britain, the crucial past and present role of the U.S. is under-acknowledged.

On the other hand the wartime leadership of the U.S. spoiled everything. Roosevelt thought he could ''deal with'' (his words) Stalin, and sacrificed Eastern Europe through his ignorance. He took the side of Stalin against Churchill, who had a far more realistic view of just what Stalin represented -- yet he is still held in adulation, for some reason.

I often think that the over-respectful attitude, and in Obama's case hagiography, stems from the Germanic constituent of 19th and 20th century immigration into the U.S.

Meanwhile let us all unite under a common anti-terrorist and pro-freedom view of the World. There is a lot wrong with Britain, just as there is with the USA. It is fruitless and counter-productive to continually have a negative view of each other, whatever the history.

I myself recognize that my future freedom is intimately bound to the U.S. championship of freedom throughout the World.

Let us all think like that and struggle against terrorism and mock liberalism, the two real enemies of the present.
-- Michael
Birmingham, England

OVERRULED
Re: Jay D. Homnick's The Importance of Justice:

Ginsburg is an embarrassment to our entire justice system. Even with the likes of leaky Leahy on the judiciary committee, I seriously doubt Ginsburg would have been confirmed if she had told the truth during her confirmation hearings: she believes foreign law should influence American legal decisions.

Ginsburg should be impeached and thrown off of the bench. America deserves better.
-- Garry Greenwood
Gearhart, Oregon

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Letter to the Editor View all comments (16) | Leave a comment

Appleby| 4.14.09 @ 6:50AM

Living for today at the expense of tomorrow -- or sacrificing the single and childless for Goodies to buy votes For The Children?

I, being single and childless, would be much happier keeping the 46% of my income snatched up For The Children -- and allowing those whose children these are to do the same.

And please do not give me the specious promise that you will sell your children into wage slavery to hand over their income to me -- because your children will grow up to be a drain on society just as you are yourself. They have your example to follow.

Rocco| 4.14.09 @ 6:55AM

To Michael from Birmingham,

Amen, sir!!

Stuart Koehl| 4.14.09 @ 7:25AM

"Anyway, I got the quote from a book of military history -- J.F.C. Fuller's Decisive Battles of the Western World "

Be very wary when using "quotes" from the work of Boney Fuller. Brilliant military theorist though he was, the man was also highly erratic and prone to flights of fantasy. He was never much of a friend to Churchill, flirted with fascism in the 30s, and was also something of a cultist. His books are not the most objective pieces of military history, and "Decisive Battles" is fraught with all sorts of errors, both factual and interpretive.

cuban pete| 4.14.09 @ 8:59AM

Mike Dooley-Well done. Thank You

William| 4.14.09 @ 10:42AM

Mike Dooley - the Union and Lincoln bear the mark of Cain forever.

Alan Brooks| 4.14.09 @ 11:03PM

arguably?
Churchill WAS the greatest specimen.

"are you the greatest man in the world?" a child asked.
Churchill: "I am, now bugger off!"

Paul Nelson| 4.15.09 @ 8:50PM

Mike Dooley--Abraham Lincoln could not have rationally believed that 1) slavery had to be contained in the states where it was practiced and simultaniously 2) that the only way to contain slavery was to preserve the Union. If the slave states had been cast from the Union in 1861, then there would have clearly been no chance of the expansion of slavery. If Lincoln actually said what Mike Dooley says he said, then Lincoln was either irrational or a liar, or perhaps both.

Barky K. Nine| 4.17.09 @ 2:43AM

"Justice" Ginsburg...Another reason she should
be impeached is that she has ruled 100% for the
ACLU in all their cases before the SCOTUS after
having been their general Counsel for years...
a clear breach of judicial ethics.

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