All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama bin Laden. But tell that to the CIA and all the other misconceptualizers of the War on Terror.
Seven years after Osama bin Laden's last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more evidence for Elvis's presence among us than for his. Hence there is reason to ask whether the paradigm of Osama bin Laden as terrorism's deus ex machina and of al Qaeda as the prototype of terrorism may be an artifact of our Best and Brightest's imagination, and whether investment in this paradigm has kept our national security establishment from thinking seriously about our troubles' sources. So let us take a fresh look at the fundamentals.
Dead or Alive?
Negative evidence alone compels the conclusion that Osama is long since dead. Since October 2001, when Al Jazeera's Tayseer Alouni interviewed him, no reputable person reports having seen him—not even after multiple-blind journeys through intermediaries. The audio and video tapes alleged to be Osama's never convinced impartial observers. The guy just does not look like Osama. Some videos show him with a Semitic aquiline nose, while others show him with a shorter, broader one. Next to that, differences between colors and styles of beard are small stuff.
Nor does the tapes' Osama sound like Osama. In 2007 Switzerland's Dalle Molle Institute for Artificial Intelligence, which does computer voice recognition for bank security, compared the voices on 15 undisputed recordings of Osama with the voices on 15 subsequent ones attributed to Osama, to which they added two by native Arab speakers who had trained to imitate him and were reading his writings. All of the purported Osama recordings (with one falling into a gray area) differed clearly from one another as well as from the genuine ones. By contrast, the CIA found all the recordings authentic. It is hard to imagine what methodology might support this conclusion.
Also in 2007, Professor Bruce Lawrence, who heads Duke University's religious studies program, argued in a book on Osama's messages that their increasingly secular language is inconsistent with Osama's Wahhabism. Lawrence noted as well that the Osama figure in the December 2001 video, which many have taken as his assumption of responsibility for 9/11, wears golden rings—decidedly un-Wahhabi. He also writes with the wrong hand. Lawrence concluded that the messages are fakes, and not very good ones. The CIA has judged them all good.
Above all, whereas Elvis impersonators at least sing the King's signature song, "You ain't nutin' but a hound dawg," the words on the Osama tapes differ substantively from what the real Osama used to say—especially about the most important matter. On September 16, 2001, on Al Jazeera, Osama said of 9/11: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation." Again, in the October interview with Tayseer Alouni, he limited his connection with 9/11 to ideology: "If they mean, or if you mean, that there is a link as a result of our incitement, then it is true. We incite…" But in the so-called "confession video" that the CIA found in December, the Osama figure acts like the chief conspirator. The fact that the video had been made for no self-evident purpose except perhaps to be found by the Americans should have raised suspicion. Its substance, the celebratory affirmation of a responsibility for 9/11 that Osama had denied, should also have weighed against the video's authenticity. Why would he wait to indict himself until after U.S. forces and allies had secured Afghanistan? But the CIA acted as if it had caught Osama red-handed.
The CIA should also have taken seriously the accounts of Osama's death. On December 26, 2001, Fox News interviewed a Taliban source who claimed that he had attended Osama's funeral, along with some 30 associates. The cause of death, he said, had been pulmonary infection. The New York Times on July 11, 2002, reported the consensus of a story widespread in Pakistan that Osama had succumbed the previous year to his long-standing nephritis. Then, Benazir Bhutto—as well connected as anyone with sources of information on the Afghan-Pakistani border—mentioned casually in a BBC interview that Osama had been murdered by his associates. Murder is as likely as natural death. Osama's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is said to have murdered his own predecessor, Abdullah Azzam, Osama's original mentor. Also, because Osama's capture by the Americans would have endangered everyone with whom he had ever associated, any and all intelligence services who had ever worked with him had an interest in his death.
New Osama, Real Osama
We do not know what happened to Osama. But whatever happened, the original one, the guy who looked and sounded like a spoiled Saudi kid turned ideologue, is no more. The one who exists in the tapes is different: he is the world's terror master, endowed with inexplicable influence. In short, whoever is making the post-November 2001 Osama tapes is pretending to far greater power than Osama ever claimed, much less exercised.
The real Osama bin Laden, like the real al Qaeda over which he presided, was never as important as reports from Arab (especially Saudi) intelligence services led the CIA to believe. Osama's (late) role in Afghanistan's anti-Soviet resistance was to bring in a little money. Arab fighters in general, and particularly the few Osama brought, fought rarely and badly. In war, one Afghan is worth many Arabs. In 1990 Osama told Saudi regent Abdullah that his mujahideen could stop Saddam's invasion of the kingdom. When Abdullah waved him away in favor of a half-million U.S. troops, Osama turned dissident, enough to have to move to Sudan, where he stayed until 1996 hatching sterile anti-Saudi plots until forced to move his forlorn band to Afghanistan.
There is a good reason why neither Osama nor al Qaeda appeared on U.S. intelligence screens until 1998. They had done nothing noteworthy. Since the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa, however, and especially after director of Central Intelligence George Tenet imputed responsibility for 9/11 to Osama "game, set, and match," the CIA described him as terrorism's prime mover. It refused to countenance the possibility that Osama's associates might have been using him and his organization as a flag of convenience. As U.S. forces were taking over Afghanistan in 2001, the CIA was telling Time and Newsweek that it expected to find the high-tech headquarters from which Osama controlled terrorist activities in 50 countries. None existed. In November 2008, without factual basis and contrary to reason, the CIA continued to describe him and his organization as "the most clear and present danger to the United States." It did not try to explain how this could be while, it said, Osama is "largely isolated from the day to day operations of the organization he nominally heads." What organization?
Axiom and Opposite
Why such a focus on an organization that was never large, most of whose known associates have long since been killed or captured, and whose assets the CIA does not even try to catalogue? The CIA's official explanation, that al Qaeda has "metastasized" by spreading its expertise, is an empty metaphor. But pursuant to it, the U.S. government accepted the self-designation as "al Qaeda" of persons fighting for Sunni-Baathist interests in Iraq, and has pinned the label gratuitously on sundry high-profile terrorists while acknowledging that their connection to Osama and Co. may be emotional at most. But why such gymnastics in the face of Osama's incontrovertible irrelevance? Because focusing on Osama and al Qaeda affirms a CIA axiom dating from the Cold War, an axiom challenged during the Reagan years but that has been U.S. policy since 1993, namely: terrorism is the work of "rogue individuals and groups" that operate despite state authority. According to this axiom, the likes of Osama run rings around the intelligence services of Arab states—just like the Cold War terrorists who came through Eastern Europe to bomb in Germany and Italy and to shoot Pope John Paul II supposedly acted despite Bulgarian intelligence, despite East Germany's Stasi, despite the KGB. This axiom is dear to many in the U.S. government because it leads logically to working with the countries whence terrorists come rather than to treating them as enemies.
But what if terrorism were (as Thomas Friedman put it) "what states want to happen or let happen"? What if, in the real world, infiltrators from intelligence services—the professionals—use the amateur terrorists rather than the other way around? What is the logical consequence of noting the fact that the terrorist groups that make a difference on planet Earth—such as Hamas and Hezbollah, the PLO, Colombia's FARC—are extensions of, respectively, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, and Venezuela? It is the negation of the U.S. government's favorite axiom. It means that when George W. Bush spoke, and when Barack Obama speaks, of America being "at war" against "extremism" or "extremists" they are either being stupid or acting stupid to avoid dealing with the nasty fact that many governments wage indirect warfare.
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Osama bin Elvis « Therearenosunglasses’s Weblog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
ncatty| 3.13.09 @ 11:50AM
9/11 was a failure of intelligence, and no one was fired. Like the author suggests, we the public must pay attention and apply common sense.
S.L. Toddard| 3.13.09 @ 11:54AM
JEREMIAH AND BOB: FYI - I haven't been posting here in over a month, since maybe Feb 2nd. There is a troll here who adopts other people's names and posts as them. I never called Bob "blow-bob" or whatever. I saw you also got into some scraps with him, Jeremiah. None of it was me. I don't use terms like "lib" or whatever else this clown said.
Imagine doing that - being that pathetic? Logging on and pretending to be someone else you only know through the internet? It's sad and the sort of thing one would expect of a stalker.
Anyway, none of the posts under my name - S.L. Toddard - have actually been me since the first couple days of February. It's been that same, sad, lonely troll.
S.L. Toddard| 3.13.09 @ 12:04PM
Besides, as I have difficulties adjusting to the real world, I don't think "lib" has any meaning. We are all brothers anyway, except the dumb idiots who voted for The One. Only a sad, lonely troll could vote for America's suicide.
Jeremiah| 3.13.09 @ 12:08PM
No problem, Toddard. The guy was so smart, there was no way we could get fooled. Don't go cold turkey on Lexomil.
Bob| 3.13.09 @ 12:12PM
Actually, the guy sounded funny and a terrific sense of humor. Toddard, cut him some slack because I think his posts were far superior to yours. Just my modest opinion based on a successful career in a Fortune 500 corporation.
S.L. Toddard| 3.13.09 @ 12:25PM
^^ that's what I'm talking about. All three of us, this time. It's almost disturbing to think about how lonely and envious someone has to be to sit holed-up in their public housing, scarfing down hot-pockets and whatnot while envying *people you only know from posts*. Seriously how pathetic do you think someone has to be - how miserable - to do something like that? It's moving, in a sad way.
Jim Burrows| 3.13.09 @ 2:56PM
The drawing on the cover is no just extremely unrealistic, but impossible to visualize, for anyone in the political spectrum, as well. I/m talking about the well informed in the lives of both Presley and bin Laden.
Most notably, it lack imagination, a sine qua non for avant garde journalism. First, of all, and while the presumably 52 year old Obama is perfectly dressed to spend a day at the beach, in hiding, may I remind you all, his turban alone would have given him away. As the most wanted man in recent memory, he of all people would have thought it essential not to wear it. (LOL)
The Rock King, on the other hand (presumably at age 42,), is not just wearing a jumpsuit, in the sun, of all places, but is actually seen as truly enjoying bin Laden's company.
The latter would have been unthinkable, as Colin Powell, who met Presley while they both served in the US Army in Germany, could certainly attest.
Finally, the only thing that ties Presley to bin Laden is his ability not to "pass away" in the eyes of his followers. That 95 % of them know Presley is dead, and the remaining 5% hope he isn't, is neither here nor there.
The unvarnished truth is that the iconic image they keep, in their heads, of the Rock King is certainly not reminiscent of that which is despicted on the drawing.
So, again, the artist failes to deliver on that account, also. To draw an older, yet fitter Presley, at 70, lying on the beach, even if only a few feet away from a turban-less bin Laden, would have been much more challenging....
Cali Girl| 3.13.09 @ 3:54PM
That troll was brilliant, hilarious, too. I miss him, and I want to apologize to him. Hope I get the chance someday.
Alan Brooks| 3.13.09 @ 9:46PM
the troll knew his business, which is why NR has no public blog.
he had me saying in reference to Jews something about shellfish, for a second almost thought it was me who wrote it, but you'd have to drink alot of budweiser to write a comment like that.
Elvis? hard to respect someone who dated his wife Priscilla when she was 14. this isn't NAMBLA site, or NANGLA
America is not Waco, Salt Lake City, or Afghanistan.
yes, i know Elvis was in Germany at the time-- but still.
cute lil' troll| 3.13.09 @ 10:10PM
Alan, you did write it. Sorry.
Alan Brooks| 3.13.09 @ 11:43PM
nope, cutie,
we here at AS don't sniff glue like you do.
French Cutie| 3.13.09 @ 11:49PM
Never touched the stuff, babe. It's pink champagne for me! Bubbly, bubbly, bubbly.
Alan Brooks| 3.14.09 @ 12:15AM
you're crazier than Daphne and me put together.
Cutie Pie| 3.14.09 @ 12:46AM
Crazy like a fox. Foxy Lady.
geenee| 3.14.09 @ 1:09AM
The drawing of Elvis Presley on the cover is truly a lack of respect toward his memory.
Dolly| 3.14.09 @ 1:15AM
But I remember Elvis looked just like that--and real sweaty, too! Still could sing, though.
geenee| 3.14.09 @ 10:36AM
But your do not you know the inhuman conditions in which lived. How he was beaten until in front of fans that did not do anything by helping him. First you should ascertain and later writes what do you want. . With regard to Elvis Presley all are God for to judge without know what about him if they hit him? , If he was fed with rotten food and they remained with exquisite meat? ... The drawing of Elvis Presley on the cover is truly a lack of respect toward his memory. In which level of life he was submitted to live for to be so ill as so that nobody gave him the importance more than the apparent physical aspect and then compare. Alone schizophrenic can do these drawings or to say to see "these ghosts of a never existing reality but dreamed" Alone schizophrenic they can do these drawings or to say to see ghosts of a never existing reality but dreamed, that pursues that obsesses.
Someone quoted William Shakespeare :
"...But man proud man
dressed in a little brief autorithy
most ignorant of what he´s most assured
(his glassy essence) like an angy ape
plays such phantastic tricks before high heaven as makes the angels weep who,
with our spleens, would all themselves laugh mortal..."
Why not draw about osama bin michael jackson or osama bin beatles or osama bin tom jones or osama bin britney spears?
geegee| 3.14.09 @ 10:45AM
"The only good use for that magazine is to start a fire in your fireplace." Marty Lacker member of memphis mafia for elvisinfonet.
I agree with the comments of Marty Lacker on the above news article: "The American Spectator is a staunch rightwing magazine in the US and I think it's disgusting that they use Elvis, an American Icon, in this manner on the cover of their rag publication. The only good use for that magazine is to start a fire in your fireplace."
trurl| 3.14.09 @ 11:18AM
Sounds like someone needs to settle back with a hot, relaxing cup of Get Over It.
CH| 3.14.09 @ 11:45AM
Elvisophile. He's at rest, geenee; God bless him. Elvis had a great sense of humor, too bad you don't. Bug off liberal whiner.
truly| 3.14.09 @ 11:57AM
Angelo M. Codevilla, trul, ch, and others are uneducated moron and the biggest loser ever to waist your time to find a way to have a fun over dead man. Why no obama bin TRUL cover or obama bin CH cover?
Get a FREAKING LIFE YOU PIECE OF WAISTED SPERM.
ch2| 3.14.09 @ 12:17PM
Is true: Marty Lacker comments on the above news article: "The American Spectator is a staunch rightwing magazine in the US and I think it's disgusting that they use Elvis, an American Icon, in this manner on the cover of their rag publication. The only good use for that magazine is to start a fire in your fireplace." elvisinfonet
Angelo M. Codevilla, trul, ch, and others are uneducated moron and the biggest losers ever to waist your time to find a way to made mockery over a dead man. Why no obama bin TRUL cover or obama bin CH cover?
Elvis had a great sense of humor but never for made stupids mockery over others.
someone needs to settle back with a hot, relaxing cup of Get behind the jail for For slander, exploitation and cruelty toward the memory of Elvis Presley and that is the author of the drawing and of the article, but ask him to spectator and to the author of the monstrous drawing to if they dare to carry out a cover sheet where they apply that same sense of humor with lisa marie loockwood well fat and we are going to see The Daily Mail effect. If they do grossnesses to Elvis Presley are geniuses but care and they apply itself to you ch and trurl or to lisa marie
For ch and trurl: While the dogs bark is sign that we go for good road".
Get a FREAKING LIFE YOU PIECE OF WAISTED SPERM.
CH| 3.14.09 @ 12:28PM
Nice spelling, libturd truly. You're just another disaster puked out by our Publik Skool Systim. No wonder Obummer got elected. Moron.
ch2| 3.14.09 @ 12:34PM
That the sketcher and Angelo M. Codevilla do a cover version and article with osama bin ch I want to see your happy sense of humor. Your coward you can defend you, Elvis Presley does not be able.
ch2| 3.14.09 @ 12:44PM
I would love to see you ch as a littly porky pig cartoon in two legs and is not bad idea. And after reading the previous post you are not so amused that they do to you that infamy as they did it to the marvelous one Elvis Presley who cannot be defended. At least you have snout that is a null help for you
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Osama bin Elvis « Depravity links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
ch2/Crazy Daphne| 3.14.09 @ 4:49PM
I am the hateful socialist witch who is now strapping on a bomb-vest. Pray that it works this time. I am incompetent.
trurl| 3.14.09 @ 5:32PM
Well, you sure told me. I think. It's hard to tell.
CH| 3.14.09 @ 10:20PM
No one is crazier than the crazy witch, Daphne.
Thomas| 3.15.09 @ 12:39PM
Well, this thread has drifted out into the twilight zone.
gene| 3.15.09 @ 4:50PM
Yes thomas, trul and ch you are in the twilight zone and Elvis Presley is with GOD and will always be sent as an example and stone in which many will trip of the envy. :P
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Instapundit » Blog Archive » OSAMA BIN ELVIS? links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
S.L. Toddard| 3.15.09 @ 9:38PM
Gene, somebody should slap you. Moron.
George| 3.15.09 @ 9:59PM
Osama bin Laden is a splat on a cave wall.
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Search for bin Laden Narrows Down to Chitral, Pakistan links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
LTC John| 3.16.09 @ 8:02AM
The Afghans I worked with in 2004-2005 were rather startled when I asked them about OBL - they all told me "he's been dead for a long time now..."
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Genrewonk » Weekend at Osama’s links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Ed | 3.16.09 @ 9:19AM
Osama been billionaire, ego maniac, can't seem to scrape together a few shekels to buy a Handycam? He must be taking a dirt nap.
Michael Murphy| 3.16.09 @ 10:24AM
Name one television personality or video hog like OBL who chose to move to radio. He is long, long, gone. I expect the cia et al keep him "alive" to have the balance of OBL's "organization" consider them hapless.
frommartinlacker| 3.16.09 @ 12:25PM
Marty Lacker's strong feedback to The American Spectator:
Further to our news item on Sat 14 March, Marty Lacker has provided EIN with his letter to The American Spectator about its cover article, Osama bin Elvis:
I have just seen the cover of your latest issue where you compare Osama Bin Laden with Elvis and your drawing of Elvis looking like a clown.
You have a self proclaimed reputation of being a Patriotic American publication primarily because you mainly represent the narrow minded rightwing and this is the way you treat an Amarican Icon like Elvis?
I'm not some Elvis fanatic, I am someone who was with and close to him for twenty years and I and others take your the cover on your rightwing rag as an insult to Elvis' memory and legacy.
I would not be surprised by learning your illustrator and editors had a good laugh when doing that cover, thinking how amusing and clever you are. I hate to break it to you but you all are the clowns and you should all be ashamed of yourself as well as apologize in your next issue to Elvis, his family, friends and fans.
Thank you,
Marty Lacker
Memphis,Tn.
gene| 3.16.09 @ 12:40PM
moron S.L. Toddard moron I will break your nose. But what nose? you are a vomit that is eaten by the dog like american spectator :P I hope that you coward and moron S.L. Toddard you could try to give a slap in the face of Martin Lacker of Memphis Maphia try to do it, S. L. "vomit" Toddard try to give a slap in the face of Martin Lacker.
L. "vomit" Toddard I challenge to you to try to give a slap in the face to Martin Lacker.
gene| 3.16.09 @ 12:40PM
L. "vomit" Toddard I challenge to you to try to give a slap in the face to Martin Lacker.
frommartinlackermemphismaphia| 3.16.09 @ 12:41PM
Marty Lacker's strong feedback to The American Spectator:
Further to our news item on Sat 14 March, Marty Lacker has provided EIN with his letter to The American Spectator about its cover article, Osama bin Elvis:
I have just seen the cover of your latest issue where you compare Osama Bin Laden with Elvis and your drawing of Elvis looking like a clown.
You have a self proclaimed reputation of being a Patriotic American publication primarily because you mainly represent the narrow minded rightwing and this is the way you treat an Amarican Icon like Elvis?
I'm not some Elvis fanatic, I am someone who was with and close to him for twenty years and I and others take your the cover on your rightwing rag as an insult to Elvis' memory and legacy.
I would not be surprised by learning your illustrator and editors had a good laugh when doing that cover, thinking how amusing and clever you are. I hate to break it to you but you all are the clowns and you should all be ashamed of yourself as well as apologize in your next issue to Elvis, his family, friends and fans.
Thank you,
Marty Lacker
Memphis,Tn.
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The International House of Bacon » Blog Archive » Monday Links links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
gene| 3.16.09 @ 4:02PM
Nutcases alert!!!!!! I have to put my bomb vest on and go to my rubber room. I am nuts!
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Osama bin Elvis - Pakistan Defence Forum links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Roy| 3.16.09 @ 10:53PM
These comments must set some kind of record for trolling irrelevance.
As far as the actual thesis, it's interesting because it argues that KSM did plan 9/11, but not under direction from Bin Laden. While it's possible that this is true and the CIA doesn't know it, after having waterboarded KSM for a while like we know they did you would imagine they know everything he knows..
Jeremiah| 3.17.09 @ 12:43AM
He sure looked like crap after the CIA got done with him. Poor fat, hairy bastard. LOL
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Osama bin Elvis | Tea Break links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
phylis| 3.17.09 @ 12:42PM
The news rag needs t burn to the ground. Maybe those stupid editors needs to have the tables turned on them
gine| 3.17.09 @ 12:43PM
Oh dam you are so right Phylis and I could kill them, what an awful thing to do and say, Marty Lacker is not and I repeat NOT my favorite at all but have to give him my thumbs up for this one... I hope they burn in hell
regyna| 3.17.09 @ 12:45PM
AMEN to that Gine
phylis/gine/regyna| 3.17.09 @ 1:55PM
We are fine examples of the moronic left. Not working, and living on welfare give us plenty to spew our stupid lies.
phylis/gine/regyna2| 3.17.09 @ 8:04PM
Elvis Presley always will be the king the others are losers and ... I hope they burn in hell
phylis/gine/regyna2| 3.17.09 @ 8:09PM
WANKERS :) ELVIS ALWAYS THE KING
_________________
"Growing old is mandatory...........growing up is optional "
mrthebrber | 3.17.09 @ 8:10PM
I agree
WANKERS :) ELVIS ALWAYS THE KING
_________________
"Growing old is mandatory...........growing up is optional "
STD/gine/regyna| 3.17.09 @ 10:27PM
Being stupid is lethal.
dArKsiDe| 3.19.09 @ 4:37PM
come on CH, dont hate on the prez, like it or not hes in charge for the next 4 years.
yes the person was a f*cktard, but bash the right people here.
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Osama bin Elvis « Les dessous de l’information mondiale-Downside World News links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
EffTerrorism| 3.26.09 @ 2:22AM
There is a well written article that brings up a lot of interesting points about the security of our country. Yet, all people can talk about is the Elvis cartoon .... Ladies and gents, I give you the definition of douchebags.
km21| 3.26.09 @ 3:14AM
-In a 2002 interview with Al Jazeera journalist Yosri Fouda, Mohammed admitted his involvement, along with Ramzi Binalshibh, in the "Holy Tuesday operation".[30] Mohammed was arrested on March 1, 2003 in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.[31] Mohammed ultimately ended up at Guantanamo Bay. - (www.wiki.org)
Yet, they are still unable to find the tall guy on dialysis
Nordic| 3.29.09 @ 5:16PM
"We know that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) planned and carried out 9/11." The article was highly perspicuous until that sentence; then, suddenly, the rest is pure naivety. Strange - and sad.
anon| 3.30.09 @ 10:47AM
Shut up DARKSIDE you piece of Itchy hyena of the envy. While you speak of Elvis presley means that is more important than you piece of drugged hendrix
AKP| 4.23.09 @ 11:00AM
Quite Interesting, sounds like an orwellian perpetual war is at hand?
Димитри| 4.23.09 @ 4:53PM
тимати
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Questions simples links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Osama bin Elvis.. « PrairiePopulistsAndProgressives.net links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Random Links XXXV « Random Musings of a Deranged Mind links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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ReOpen911 - News » Oussama ben Elvis links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Obama and Osama « Obama Information links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Osama Bin Laden – Dead Man Talking? « From the Pulpit ….. links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Schnarr| 8.1.09 @ 4:54AM
I found a few of weak conclusions. Simply because the video tapes were faked doesn't mean he's dead. If I was the #1 wanted terrorist on the planet, I don't think I'd risk that kind of exposure either. Having the videos to convince people he is alive while not actually appearing in them may seem cowardly, but he's a terrorist... What else would you expect? And on the planning side, I would count him out, didn't he put a lot of the financing behind the attacks? I guess any conclusion on Osama's current status is based on inadequate evidence and hearsay.
Adam| 8.2.09 @ 12:06PM
With all due respect to the author, his knowledge on Bin Laden and Islam, despite his credentials, is limited. An example is the "wearing a gold ring" statement, saying it goes against his Wahabbi beliefs. While it IS wrong for Muslim men to wear gold (and silk), Bin Laden has a long history of wearing the supposed "gold" ring. These pictures are all from before 9/11: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3742/411271fh7.jpg , http://yfrog.com/77bin20ladenj, & http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6458/image71d29ded334347c48ac88433d033c9a9xc8.jpg. Simple research of this fact, from looking at authentic photographs and old video tapes would have prevented this long standing misconception. I'd go on, but in all honestly, if you let this kind of stuff through in your "Osama is Dead" thesis, how can I take the rest of it seriously?
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Osama bin Laden: Tot oder lebendig? « Mohart's Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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