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His Winter of Discontent
Al Gore braved a midwinter snowstorm yesterday to tell a Senate committee that the world is heating up and the only thing that can save us is "conservation and renewables."
Gore's testimony, of course, was a prelude to the national debate that will soon be taking place over global warming.
"We're firing with real bullets here," commented Senator Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) at one point. "I believe we're going to end up passing something this year. I'm just concerned about what it's going to be."
Good point. I know the instinct among conservatives is to stonewall on global warming and try to prevent anything from being adopted. But the votes aren't there. A much more constructive strategy would be to use the opportunity to revive nuclear power in this country -- something that would benefit us all anyway. "Reviving nuclear power would be the best way possible to re-industrialize this country," says California Republican Congressman Devin Nunes, who is trying to remove some of the barriers to a nuclear revival.
Much more likely, however, is that Congress will couple a limit on carbon emissions to Al Gore's bewitching vision of an America built on wind and solar energy.
Gore began by asserting that wind and solar fuels are "free forever" and therefore ready to do the job. As an example, he cited "concentrated thermal solar" that uses mirrors to focus desert sunlight, turning it into electricity. He cited a recent Scientific American article, saying, "If we took an area of the desert 100 miles on each side, we could provide ourselves with all the electricity we need." He wants to do it in the next ten years.
The Scientific American article, "A Solar Grand Plan," by Ken Zweibel, James Mason and Vasilis Fthenakis, appeared in January 2008. It did not say we needed an area 100 miles on each side, which is 10,000 square miles. The article stated, "To meet the 2050 projection [of electrical demand], 46,000 square miles of land would be needed for photovoltaic and concentrated solar power installations." That's 215 miles on a side. If you're having trouble picturing this, that comes to one-third of New Mexico (121,000 square miles).
But that's just one aspect of the job. Such a facility would produce electricity only while the sun shines. In order to power a grid, you would also need a system of electrical storage, both for nighttime capacity and cloudy days. (New Mexico does have cloudy days.) No such system exists but the authors envision a network of "vacant underground caverns, abandoned mines, aquifers and depleted natural gas wells" all over the country storing "535 billion cubic feet of storage, with air pressurized at 1,100 pounds per square inch." That's about 1/16th of all the natural gas industry's underground storage reservoirs. The air would be released to spin electric turbines when the sun doesn't shine. The authors estimated the infrastructure could be constructed by 2050. Gore is shooting for 2020.
Oh yes, all this will require rebuilding the entire electrical grid to 765 kilovolts because the current 345 kV version can't ferry all this electricity back and forth across the country. That's another $1 trillion job.
After outlining this vision of a "world run on renewable energy," Gore was asked by Senator Corker about nuclear power. Here's how he responded:
"Senator, I'm not against nuclear power, but I've grown skeptical about the degree to which it can expand. Unfortunately, nuclear reactors only come in one size -- extra large. They've very expensive. The nuclear industry now has zero ability to predict how much these things will cost. Wall Street is showing no interest in investing. Therefore, I think it's only going to play a very small part."
Gore has been throwing out this "extra large" line for many years. In March 2007 I wrote an evaluation in the Wall Street Journal but it didn't have much impact. To be brief, nuclear reactors can be built to any size you desire. The reactor aboard the Cassini Space Probe generated less than one kilowatt. Research reactors usually produce 1-5 megawatt (1 MW = 1,000 kilowatts) and Navy reactors generate 20-50 MW. When Duquesne Light and Power "beached" one of Admiral Hyman Rickover's 70-MW submarine reactors at Shippingport, Pennsylvania, in 1957, it became the nation's first commercial plant. The reason we build the 1,500-MW behemoths of today is that that's the cheapest way to produce electricity. The bigger the reactor, the less heat is lost. Coal plants are built to the same dimensions.
Nevertheless, many people are starting to build small reactors. The Russians are putting 60 MW reactors on barges and floating them into the Arctic to power Siberian villages. Hyperion, Inc., a California company, just introduced an 80 MW reactor the size of a gazebo that can power a city of 50,000. At a time when Gore & Co. want to cover entire states with windmill farms and solar collectors, nuclear has become "small but beautiful."
But the biggest shocker came when Gore explained that reprocessing of nuclear fuel -- the technology being employed by the French -- actually worsens the so-called problem of "nuclear waste." As reported here last May, reprocessing has been a huge success in France. The French now store all the their high-level waste from 30 years of producing 75 percent of their electricity beneath the floor of one large room at Le Havre. On this side of the Atlantic, however, the rumor has taken hold that the French are only increasing the problem. "Reprocessing of nuclear waste actually expands the amount of high-level waste," Gore told the committee yesterday. "I know this sounds counterintuitive. I only learned this recently."
Counterintuitive indeed. When challenged by Senator Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.), Gore said he couldn't remember where he heard it but his staff quickly came up with the name of Allison Macfarlane, at George Mason University.
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drudge ette obama| 1.29.09 @ 6:48AM
So Gore just read about reprocessing? I thought Gore was a journalist for a week or two before he tried divinty school? He reveals that he doesn't fully educate himself, like actually acquainting himself with all aspects of his position. Why hasn't Gore visited French nuclear power facilities? Why is he just reading? Why are we forced to think about Gore every year or so? Can't he just go away, maybe to a windfarm?
Fabulous article.
Rocco| 1.29.09 @ 6:55AM
Why this hack politico, part of a generation that NOW places so much importance on "experts," an idiot who is not even a scientist, has so much supposed influence on this issue is beyond me. An increasing number of climatologists, who are intellectually honest (finally), have debunked this whole global warming thing as a media-created hoax. Climate change there may be, due to normal solar and terrestial cycles. We cannot even create rain, much less change our climate. This is just another leftist scheme to destroy our republic and tax us producers into penury. I am damned sick and tired of these Chicken Little s**theads going about preaching the end of civilization as we know it. Drudge Ette, you are right, why can't this guy just go away, disappear???? Where's the outrage? Where is the revolt against this crap?
temple| 1.29.09 @ 6:57AM
Isn't Gore a windfarm all by himself? How many cities could keep the office lights on all night thanks to his oratorical wheezing alone?
drudge ette obama| 1.29.09 @ 7:20AM
TEMPLE, I am ashamed that I didn't carry the windfarm/Gore connection to the level that you did. Very funny. Congrats.
ROCCO: Do not despair. There is outrage against false science and those who propel themselves using it. The hard part has been getting the media outlets to disseminate the debate. I am hearing more and more about the disagreement on whether there is global warming as Gore defines it. That means things are starting to sink in. Keep your indignation stoked, expressed and energized.
Michigan-Matt| 1.29.09 @ 7:21AM
Is it just me or does that picture make AlBore look like he just snorted a line of cocaine from DC to Nashville?
Fat old pols need to stay home. Just ask TipONeill or TeddieK or DennyHastert.
Just say No.
Deborah| 1.29.09 @ 7:28AM
Wow. Just looking at him yesterday made me think, "geez, this guy is crazy." His eyes, his chicken-looking face, his self-assured ignorance--and then I thought, "thank God he wasn't our president." Then I remembered who is, and I shuddered. Eight years later we have Al Gore, Environmental Expert, telling us what to do and making sure his carbon offsets business gets off the ground.
daddio| 1.29.09 @ 7:56AM
Once again folks, this is not about conserving energy, it's about CONTROLLING energy, and thus controlling YOU. The fact that these folks continue to ignore 30+ years of success proves that point. They are working very hard to do everything wrong so that their ideology remains intact. It's all about the plan, man.
jvenier| 1.29.09 @ 8:33AM
I do not understand why this guy hasnt been thrown out of the political arena. It would take most of the solar panel farm (1.3 the size of NM to heat his NON energy efficient multi thousand square foot home) This guy is a total idiot, he spouts crap from his ingorant pie hole on things he know nothing about, why would he be allowed to represent Washington views?
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Anthony| 1.29.09 @ 10:08AM
Typical Gore lunacy and deliberate misdirection, especially on nuclear power. How does a superpower run a $14 B economy on wind and solar? And gee Algore, is it any wonder that Wall St. is showing no interesting in investing in nuclear, when you and your radical environmental nut job allies have insured that the regulatory process makes the creation and investment in these projects so risky that no rational executive would see this as a reasonable investment? Yet Algore's comment to congress went unchallenged without a hint of irony. Algore and his ilk have made investing in nuclear so, pardon the pun, toxic, by insuring that the process can be derailed at any time, especially at the tail end, after hundreds of millions had been invested. What rational executive would take such a risk? Of course, the operative word here is rational, which is in short supply in Washington. To further insure the radical agenda, Algore & friends have insured that the smart money will stay away from nuclear, clean coal and oil, by granting legal status to any enviornmental group to challenge the process until it dies a costly death. It's a rigged game that makes Vegas look like a charity. America has been conned by these "counterintuitive" radicals, and we are just beginning to see how Obama & friends want to transform America into a weak and meek European socialist state, with the media and the plebes begging for more!! Perhaps in 2 years Americans will finally wake up from their stupor. Maybe sooner, if the firewood runs low.
Doctor Right| 1.29.09 @ 10:46AM
Al Gore is probably one of the best living examples of the "Peter Principle" in action. In fact, Gore probably rose to the level of his own incompetence many years ago as a Journalist in Tennessee. Unfortunately, propped up by myth and the willing accomplices in the media, he's considered, by too many, to be a bold genius.
What a joke! This clown is a classic n'er-do-well. An average student at St. Alban's in D.C., he gets into Harvard because of his father's connections, where he spends most of his undergraduate years smoking dope with roommate Tommy Lee Jones. Then Little Lord Fauntleroy saunters into Vietnam with a bodyguard(!), and spends 5 months "in-country as a journalist.
Then, after his pseudo-tour in 'Nam, he fails out of both Divinity school AND Law school, before becoming a full-time journalist (of course!!). When that got too boring, he decided that the US Congress was a great place for a classic under-achiever. On the strength of his father's name (his father the segregationist, no less), he gets elected to Congress and then the Senate. Then, since Clinton needed more votes in the South in '92, he picks Gore as his Veep.
I truly believe this man become mentally and emotionally unhinged after losing in 2000 to George W. Bush. Now, despite his pathetic academic background, he's hailed as a brilliant man of science, a modern day Paul Revere bringing a message of impending doom, if only those poor slobs in fly-over country would listen!!!
Amazing...Only in America.
Dustoff| 1.29.09 @ 10:49AM
It's snows for the second time in recorded history in Dubi.
Hey Al, pull your head out.
mfalatko| 1.29.09 @ 10:55AM
It is actually scary to think of how intellectually challenged our leaders are. Given both Mr. Gore's and Mr. Kerry's comments Americans should be screaning for a competency test that has to be passed before someone can run for high office. These guys hold the purse strings and make the decisions that may ultimately be the demise of the greatest country ever to grace the planet. Although, what may be even sadder and scarier is what is obviously the even lower level of knowledge, or total lack thereof, in the people who go to the polls and vote for these guys.
David Govett| 1.29.09 @ 12:20PM
Under the drifts of anecdotal snow burying me, I shall warm myself with my faith in the HolyGore, the font of purest truth.
JJ JR| 1.29.09 @ 12:49PM
Y'all,
Is not Gore the BIGGEST horses' ass you have ever seen in the public square (Biden comes close, and we have years to evaluate him)?
Actually, Gore mispoke. That patch of land the size of a 1/3 of New Mexico can only generate enough electric power to maintain his Tennessee mansion's electric power usage.
To Deborah: actually, the picture looks like he's about to put his head down on the table to snort a line (given the position of his finger about to close the other nostril)
Stan Redmond| 1.29.09 @ 12:53PM
John Kerry needs to wipe his chin. WHY Gore is against nuclear power? BECAUSE HIS GLOBAL MANAGEMENT INVESTMENT GROUP WON'T MAKE MONEY FROM CHEAP CLEAN ABUNDANT NUCLEAR POWER!!! Nuclear power is the death of Gore's money making scheme. Gore should be required to disclose his financial stake anytime he opens his big mouth to influence policy.
THE TRICK| 1.29.09 @ 12:56PM
Al Gore, he is a fraud, this man makes more money from his fellow branch of the Black Nobility, than he could have made as PRESIDENT.
Al Gore, whole take is to one make money and fool the vonorable Americans, who most have no clue on the basic idea of the planet on which they live and produce food which thet rely for survival.
THE CAKE IS A LIE| 1.29.09 @ 1:32PM
Mr. Gore needs to get his facts straight. How about a US company that has a solution, a nuclear reactor like a battery. http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/about_tech.html
Use it for 5 years and recycle and recharge it.
These can be placed NOW!
No upgrades required for the grid.
Safe, and lower cost of ownership than a photovoltaic array the size of 1/3 of New Mexico.
1 hail storm doesnt break it.
Would be interested in getting a "Green" neighborhood coalition together to build a neighborhood of 2000 homes all powered by one of these devices. I am betting It would make the cost of their energy lower than the solar power.
This solar and wind energy is always sold like a toll booth. Hey were only charging until we re-coup the costs.. Unfortunately the costs never go away and the toll gets more expensive.
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Anthony| 1.29.09 @ 2:28PM
Algore dropped out of law school and flunked out of divinity school, which begs the question, why do we listen to a moron that God told to go take a hike?
Nick| 1.29.09 @ 2:35PM
I didn't see the hearing, just a soundbite last night.
Was senator Inhofe there?
Didn't any Republican ask questions like:
Where did you get your degrees in climatology and physics Mr. Gore?
What's the carbon footprint of your private jet, mansion, SUV's, yacht, food supply?
What is the ideal global temperature, if there is one?
How cold will it be here in 2 weeks?
Trotter| 1.29.09 @ 3:24PM
This is one more great article that exposes what a bloviating loon that Al Gore truly is. In a sane society, or at least one with an objective media, Al Gore would have long ago been laughed out of public sight. Sadly, as we now live in liberal-land, Gore is foisted up as some kind of brilliant soothsayer ready to save mankind.
God help us all.
Robbins Mitchell| 1.29.09 @ 4:33PM
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Cool Headed| 1.29.09 @ 5:19PM
Ever make a pact with a devil? Those who have sat by idly while Mr. Gore deals his prosaic of outlandish global warming hysteria, in hopes his rhetoric would drive up fossil-fuel costs (most notably coal-generated energy) and thus revive a nuclear renaissance here or anywhere else will find quickly they have chosen not to oppose the very worst of all evils. He will crush such naive aspirations with equally fabricated, and much more vivid imagery of mushroom clouds, children wearing gas masks, elderly suffering from leaking radiation.
Business runs on cheap and plentiful energy, and prosperity requires the same. Too many fawn over Mr. Gore and his ilk when they should demand accountability for his frauds. Martin Luther King nailed it when he bemoaned the "silence of friends" moreso than slings and arrows of opponents.
DaveS| 1.29.09 @ 6:25PM
I am a nuke power professional, and I would like my eventual obituary and eulogy refer to my personal patriotic contribution to the death of Al Gore's hare-brained schemes of energy/environment improvement.
Jake McKinnon| 1.29.09 @ 6:50PM
Anthropogenic global warming Big Lie predicted hot air, all I hear from crazy algore gives me chills with his ideas of controlling energy thereby controlling the entire economy and every facet of your life.
Ex-Donkey| 1.29.09 @ 6:57PM
This is hilarious! Even the usual Lefty Loon posters won't show up here to defend "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" Al!
Dan| 1.29.09 @ 6:59PM
Mr Gore says he's concerned that nuclear power can't scale up enough to supply the nation's power. Today, 19% of US electricity is nuclear generated. That means we need just 5 times as many as we have now to completely eliminate the coal and gas burners. Whereas solar and wind put together generate less than 1%, on days when the wind blows. He thinks this is easier to scale up?
He also complains that nukes are enormous and that's bad. Then, instead of multiple nukes in each state, he wants all power to be generated centrally in the desert and shipped to the rest of the country. Huh?
Also, France is not the only country reprocessing wastes. Britain, Russia, and Japan do it not only for themselves, but also for many other countries they sell fuel to. There are 30 new large nukes being built around the world today; none are in the U.S. The rest of the world is not so stupid as Mr Gore wants us to be.
drudge ette obama| 1.29.09 @ 8:15PM
So, at the end of the day, the best minds have spoken. Thank you.
Stan| 1.29.09 @ 10:08PM
I am really glad to see all these great comments. Its good to know that there are many out there that know that this whole thing is a hoax perpetuated by Al Gore. I have been saying this for years to whoever would listen to me. The whole notion of CO2 being a pollutant is just utter non-sense, it would really be funny if so many people didn't buy into it. I think the good Lord is just showing us his sense of humor by having it be so cold when ol' Al is up there on the hill trying to sell his lie. God is laughing and so am I.
Leroi| 1.30.09 @ 12:40AM
"Al Gore is probably one of the best living examples of the "Peter Principle" in action." per Doctor Right
There was an article many years ago, in which whatsisname addressed the question: what if a person is moved upwards from a position of incompetence to a position of greater incompetence? It could not be a promotion, since that is a move upward from a position of competence to one of incompetence.
"Percussive sublimation" was the hierarchological term applied. Percussive, because once a person is found to be incompetence, they must be moved out quickly, upwards - else the previous move be thought a mistake. Sublimation because it is made to appear a promotion, and is preferably into a dead end job with a nice title, but where the person can do little harm - such as a vice presidentship.
Statistical Al Gore Rhythm| 1.30.09 @ 5:39PM
You may have noticed that, over the course of 8 years, GW Bush looks to have aged 25 years. I can't help but think that this extreme aging comes from bearing the burden of the many lies he told and lives that were lost because of it.
Al Gore is the next to embody this trend. There is little doubt at this point that he is (unsuccessfully) trying to perpetuate the biggest hoax ever, and nearly every word crossing his lips is a lie. And not surprisingly, many posts make note of how his appearance is becoming ever more freakish. While aging is a natural thing, the painful and contorted facial expressions are quite unnatural. Eyes that go from squinty to buggy, frenetic movements that go beyond just animated speaking, and the clear effort it takes to maintain eye contact when spewing a whopper, it's all textbook Bush mannerisms, and any expert will tell you, the unmistakable mark of a liar lying.
Sadly for Gore this self torture will be all for naught. While he will always be remembered for not being capable of stringing a full sentence together coherently, history will absolve Bush to some extent. But Gore has put himself in an inescapable situation, forced to bear the torture of his lies, even while his believers bail on him at an ever growing rate. Yes, since he has no other value to mankind, he is now forced to continue the charade until the collective lie-squinting, and head sweating, fully consumes the last bit of life in him. Adding insult to injury, as Gore suffers his self imposed death sentence, he only strentghens the resolve of folks like us here, who at some point will finally get our act together and wrestle back control of our government and our own self determinism. And wouldn't that be the ultimate irony for a scumbag like Gore. To have his self sabotaging lies, not only fail to serve his purposes, but actually start a historical revolt against lies and liars like him.
If we all didn't need a minute to take in Gore in all his freakish glory, it probably would have already happened.
Statistical Al Gore Rhythm| 1.30.09 @ 10:36PM
Please disregard my ranting, I am insane. I know that president Bush is a brave and good man who did all he could to save lives. Hugely successful, too! The man is a saint and I actually adore him. Please ignore my utter stupidity. I LOVE GEORGE W. BUSH!! I THANK GOD FOR GEORGE W. BUSH!!
Peter Weggeman| 1.31.09 @ 10:28AM
The Obama (and Gore) Contradictions can be stated in one sentance: Use crushing national debt to turn the U.S.A. into a vibrant western Europe style welfare state while weaning the country from fossil and nuclear fuels without having alternatives in place. This will blow up in their face!
Marc Jeric| 1.31.09 @ 4:23PM
This is supposed to be the age of science, information, technology - in reality it is the age of ignorance, scientific hoax, and of bloviating gasbags such as Kerry, Kennedy, Biden, and Gore. After the globaloney cooling scam of the 1970's we got the globaloney warming hoax of the 1990's. And now, after 11 years of substantial cooling we have "climate change" flimflam - well, whatever works! As long as it brings us the benefits of socialism, nationalization, 100% unionism, and perpetual power by our intellectual elite. I am reminded of the middle ages when the enlightened were trying to invent perpetuum mobile, how to transform lead into gold, and to find the immortality stone - so it is today all that talk of solar and wind power.
Wake Up People| 2.1.09 @ 11:55AM
Conservatives like yourselves wouldn't know a good idea if it stared you right in the face. Get off your idealogical pedestal and think about more than just yourselves. I have a 3KW solar installation on my roof. All for the cost of a midsize car, ~$18K.
My monthly electric bill used to be any where from $120-$180.00/month. It's now 170$/year. My utility costs are locked in for 30 years.
But whatever, the rapture's coming for all you believers anyway, so f**k the planet,...right??
Paul Milenkovic| 2.3.09 @ 12:16AM
Wake Up People:
You paid 18K for a 3KW solar array. I assume that is 3KW peak and at 6 dollars/peak watt you got a great price, not just accounting for the cost of solar cells but the price of the inverter, grid intertie, installation. I am also assuming you are grid connected because the $6/peak watt does not sound like it includes a full storage battery setup (and backup generator) for off-grid use.
If you are in a sunny place, that 3 KW peak solar panel generates 18 kWHr/day or about 540 kWHr/month. If you are saving about $150/month, does that mean you are billed 30 cents/kWHr? If your local electric rates are about three times the national average, that goes a long way to explaining why your solar panel has a 10-year payback, but it may go a long way of explaining why your state government is going broke because all of the businesses are leaving.
With respect to getting off an idealogical pedestal and thinking about more than just oneself, am I, again, to assume that you are grid connected with some "net metering" arrangement mandated by your government on the power company? You are back-spinning your power meter during the average 6 hours when your panel is at peak power output and then turning around and drawing net power for the remaining 18 hours of the day.
Do you know how much natural-gas fired or oil-fired carbon-emitting backup power your scheme requires? Optimistic models place each kilowatt of solar or wind-generated power to be backed up with two kilowatts of fossil-fuel power: the European experience where Germany is big on solar panels and Denmark is big on wind places this at 10 kilowatts of fossil-fuel power for each kilowatt of renewable power.
You see, just because you are not billed for all of the backup power that has to accompany the generation of solar or wind power doesn't mean it isn't there -- it may just be out of sight and out of mind on account of a hidden government subsidy in the form of the power company being forced to accept what you do.
By the way, the church under which I profess belief regards the Rapture as a heresy, and our leader is this German guy who is telling Americans not to be using so much oil and other natural resources.
Johnno| 6.8.09 @ 9:12PM
Now that CO2 has been declared a pollutant by the IPCC. Does that mean that we now have to strive to eliminate it from the atmosphere? What is an ideal level, zero?
So, I guess that plants will continue to grow and produce the food that mankind needs!
Politicians have my utmost scorn; for the lack of adherance to proper inquiry and for the running of their political agendas. They disgust me!
I suspect that if Al Gorey was a trader in Australia, he would be in jail for misleading and deceptive conduct.
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