The American Spectator

Liberal Reader| 8.4.09 @ 4:37PM

How horrible!

Comparing a fellow American to a Nazi?

I'm just glad no one on the right does this.

Bob| 8.4.09 @ 4:46PM

They are really pissed that we have slowed their freight train down or possibly even stopped it.

The name calling is getting intense and will get muc worse before it is over.

They will desperately try to marginalize and diminish us so as to attempt to neutralize our message and our efforts. Nationalizes heath care is their holy grail wit h it they will have the power they have always sought.

I think however that what they are seeing is the difference between an all volunteer force and the Rent a Mob Activists literally employed by the left that we have seen in the past.

Nobama| 8.4.09 @ 4:46PM

Marxist works for me, LR/Jeremiah. More appropriate for you Obama people with your 50 Czars and all.

Bailey| 8.4.09 @ 4:49PM

Rent an educated-mob astroturfers like Fascist Liberal Reader/Jeremiah.

Solo| 8.4.09 @ 6:48PM

Well...I, for one, deny Dockstader's premise:
That those who object to the current Health Care plan trotted out by the democrats (what little we can know of it after such a short time) are in denial as to whether or not a problem exists.

There is a problem with our health care "system", if you consider the high cost of same to be part of the "system".

Where the problem comes in is that THERE IS NO DISCUSSION (intelligent or otherwise) being allowed by the democrats. They're attempting to rush this legislation through without ample time for any constructive debate.

The democrat's attitude seems to be "lets do something even if it's wrong". Well...it's that "something" that we would like to discuss and if that "something" has anything to do with government control of our health care system, then we want no parts of it!

If anyone is in denial here it's the democrats! They keep insisting that these citizens attending these Town Hall meetings aren't listening. NO! It's the democrats who are not listening. They have a 60 seat majority in the senate and they don't have to listen, and, obviously, they're not! Yet.

They will listen, though. It may be too late to undue all the damage that they will inflict on the American people with this Obamacare power-grab but a lot of these same democrats will be out of a job come 2010.

If they think that these Town Hall meetings are an "angry Mob", just wait!

"Astro-Turf" doesn't grow. This movement will...wait and see!

Ben Frank| 8.4.09 @ 6:50PM

Interesting how the left has to twist a term like "denier" in this context. It's obviously a sickening tactic to equate political differences to the holocaust in any way, but can't they at least keep the comparison within its logical frame?

A Holocaust denier is someone who is driven by hatred to deny the occurrence of a documented historical event. The leftist constantly use it to refer to disasters that have yet to happen, like someone who "denies" that global warming will destroy the earth or non-government health care will lead to a crisis.

Meanwhile, these same people are surely happy to "deny" the threat from real anti-semitism (which often includes holocaust denial) that comes from the Muslim world.

If we could warp time I'm sure Hitler would be proud to dismiss those who ignored the threat Jews posed to Germany as "deniers."

B. Johnson| 8.4.09 @ 9:15PM

Many people watched Obama swear to defend the Constitution when he swore in as president. But given the federal Constitution's silence about healthcare, the 10th A. automatically reserves government power to regulate and lay taxes for healthcare to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress.

So the major problem with Obamacare is not whether or not the majority thinks that it is a good idea or not. The problem is that it is based on constitutionally nonexistent federal government powers. And this means that Obama and Congress are in contempt of the Constitution that they have hypocritically sworn to defend.

Joel Raupe| 8.4.09 @ 9:36PM

Those of us the Guns of August would marginalize are wasting time looking for anything rational in this hare-brained rant. The best reaction is to muster onward, keeping the heat on the rats determined to shift attention away from their responsibility as representatives of the people. We'll get absolutely nowhere getting angry or becoming passive when faced with the onslaught, designed deliberately to breed outrage. The anger of the People is natural, and the blindness of the VIP's on the Hill unnatural. Know it, believe it, even McCain gets it. All the marbles are at stake.

Kevin| 8.4.09 @ 9:53PM

B. Johnson wrote: the 10th A. automatically reserves government power to regulate and lay taxes for healthcare to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress.

The problem is, NO ONE seems to believe that the federal government has enumerated powers. Either they never knew it, or view it as a quaint anachronism. It is almost never mentioned in the debate - the Republicans seem ashamed to bring it up. Hence, we are reduced to arguing whether this plan or that plan will work, rather than to addressing whether this is any concern of the federal government in the first place!

In my opinion, it is the 50 governers in the US who have to save the republic by pushing a hard RESET on the tenth ammendment. First action, find a way to shield their citizens from paying federal taxes (perhaps collect federal taxes at the state level "in escrow"), and then NEGOTIATE which "services " they desire from the Feds, and how much the state is willing to pay for it!

Bailey| 8.4.09 @ 10:26PM

I think it's the people living in those 50 states who are going to have to save the Republic by keeping our knee firmly implanted in our Governors' backs!

Former Marine| 8.4.09 @ 10:38PM

These people deny that we have a health care problem.

B.S. No one is denying there are problems. It is how these problems are dealt with that is in question so your whole spiel is built on false pretences...

csledbetter| 8.4.09 @ 11:48PM

The Holocaust reference is a red herring. Liberal propagandists do that to divert attention from the flawed assumptions and logic that they use to make their case. Dockstader says, "These people deny that we have a health care problem." I do not deny that we have a health care problem, I just deny that a government-run health care bureaucracy will solve the problem. From the start Dockstader makes false assumptions, and uses emotional arguments rather than logic to come to false conclusions. Without the controversial Holocaust reference, nobody would bother to read him.

Beth| 8.5.09 @ 6:14PM

"They also seek to deny us a *solution*"

A final one, perhaps?

Lisa| 8.5.09 @ 8:25PM

@ B. Johnson:

Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Either the Constitution does not grant the United States any power that it does not expressly mention or the Constitution grants Congress the authority to do what not explicitly prohibited by the first nine amendments. Doesn't say anything about health care.