Further to
Philip Klein's post, authorities in the province of Quebec,
Canada, seem to care more about the well-being of skunks and
power lines than the well-being of patients with
life-threatening health concerns.
In a sense Pepe Le Pew gets better healthcare from the goverment
of Quebec, Canada, than Quebec residents receive. Pepe has
professionals airdropping him medicine from helicopters while
human Quebeckers don't even have access to a medical helicopter
system.
Quebec's natural resources ministry uses a helicopter
fleet to drop bait containing rabies vaccine in an effort to keep
its skunks, raccoons, and foxes healthy.
Government-owned Hydro Quebec (or
Hydro-Québec, as it's spelled in la belle province),
Canada's largest electric utility, uses a helicopter
fleet provided by a company called Héli-inter.
After the recent tragic
death of actress Natasha Richardson, who suffered a traumatic
brain injury (epidural hematoma) while skiing at Mont Tremblant
resort, Quebec is reportedly only now thinking
about acquiring medical evacuation helicopters.
Canada's sclerotic, dysfunctional universal healthcare system
stinks.
Blasphemy! Don't you cretinous Americans know that Canada's
healthcare system makes it your moral superior. Thus, you may
lead the world in pioneering medical treatments, development of
pharaceuticals, have the foremost medical teaching institutions,
researchers and research facilities and most metropolitan areas
may have more medical diagnostic equipment than entire provinces
you are still benighted and uncaring social Darwinians.
ruth| 4.10.09 @ 1:52PM
But what about all of those Canadian posters who so vehemently
defended Quebec's healthcare system? They said it was first
rate--what gives? Pepe Le Pew--so funny.
And people aren't important enough, jharp, to deserve the use of
helicopters to travel to emergency medical care facilities?
Please tell me you are joking.
Daphne| 4.10.09 @ 2:35PM
I commented that Natasha Richardson probably would have survived
her head injury if she'd been skiing in the U.S., and I couldn't
believe some of the hysterical replies I received. I guess I hit
a nerve.
Conservative One| 4.10.09 @ 2:45PM
jharp is a skunk. Unfortunately for us, the rabies vaccine
airdrop missed him.
Teleprompter Messiah| 4.10.09 @ 3:22PM
jharp: If you are intellectually honest tell us less evolved
individuals what defects there are in your vision of free
healthcare.
Ahn O'Nymous| 4.10.09 @ 3:27PM
Utterly ridiculous.
jharp: I have a simpler solution for rabid animals. They cost, on
average, about twenty cents a piece and you can get them at any
sporting goods store in boxes of 20 - 500. They come in a variety
of sizes, types, weights, and compositions, but they all get the
job done just as well - and none of them require the use of a
helicopter. The application system can some times cost upwards of
$600US, but they are very easy to maintain and typically last for
generations.
Dropping animal bait laced with rabies medication makes about as
much fiscal sense as putting deer on birth control. You're
shafting people out of tax dollars that could be spent on
something more practical - like, I don't know, medevac
helicopters?
Seriously; who is dumb enough to get near a raccoon, skunk, or
fox without shooting it first anyway? These aren't exactly
petting zoo animals we're talking about, and I would certainly
hope any crazies keeping them as pets would know how to tell
whether or not one of their animals is rabid.
Aaron| 4.10.09 @ 7:01PM
Its the damn Canadians again! At the least they could drop jharp
from the chopper laced with bait.
Bob| 4.11.09 @ 6:27AM
Vadum, you seem to completely miss one of the major points here
-- Natasha Richardson REFUSED treatment. I thought you were a
conservative and believed in individual responsibility. Now you
want to have a nanny state with helicopters sprinkled everywhere?
I also thought, as a conservative, you'd be in favor of
capitalism. I guess not. The companies involved in buying
helicopters use them because they make economic sense for their
bottom lines. How you can compare the purchase of a helicopter
for a company to a publicly available helicopter that isn't used
much is beyond me. First you are against "socialized" medicine,
then you want more "socialized" medicine in the form of a
helicopter.
Make up your mind. Are you a conservative or a lib?
Lorraine| 4.11.09 @ 1:32PM
Vadum:
How dare you insult a healthcare system that is freely available
to all. She refused treatment!
Quebec,(along with the rest of the provinces)are only trying to
maintain its natural resources that are so greatly being reaped
by the US.
Canada is okay as long as you're taking our water, hydro and
natural gas.
ps.leave the skunks alone they don't carry guns!
Joe| 4.11.09 @ 8:14PM
hahaha, you have JHarp commenting here. The worst troll you'll
ever meet in your lifetime. patterico banned him last year.
Bill Bailey| 4.11.09 @ 10:10PM
jharp wastes everybody's time here. He uses specious
hairsplitting arguments, the kind you see every day at Media
Matters. I get the feeling he's bipolar but won't take his
medication.
Whether Richardson refused treatment or not (really, she
initially refused treatment and then an hour later changed her
mind as pain set in, and then it still took the Canadians 3 or
more hours to get her to a proper facility) they didn't have the
services in place to save her life.
Don't be distracted by all the dumb red herrings that jharp and
obnoxious Bob throw out.
Bill Bailey| 4.11.09 @ 10:12PM
Is this jharp's myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/37897713
Angel| 4.11.09 @ 10:38PM
Bob, Natasha had a head injury; she wasn't in her right mind.
"Real" professionals would have understood that and administered
proper medical care to her. I'm shocked by the poor medical
attention she received: The Canadians were clueless. She died for
nothing.
MT| 4.11.09 @ 10:42PM
Bob and jharp both have serious head injuries. They repeat
themselves over and over and over and over and ..... Ad Nauseam.
Mutty| 4.11.09 @ 11:19PM
OMG, Bill--is jharp the turd on the right flippin' the bird at
the camera? What an Ahole loser. His friends look like losers,
too.
Bob| 4.12.09 @ 10:31AM
Angel, so what do you recommend? Do you recommend that at all
remote resorts in the U.S. that we have helicopters and
neurosurgeons? According to Gupta on CNN, by the time she changed
her mind, it was too late anyway -- even to be flown out.
I'm one of those fiscal conservatives who believe in individual
responsibility. I don't want someone making decisions for me even
if I have a bump on the head. How you can be a conservative and
believe otherwise is just beyond me.
The emergency medical treatment was available in Canada -- but
Canada is a relatively sparsely populated country and you cannot
expect everyone to be everywhere.
The problem here is that many of you WANT to find something wrong
with Canada's health care system so you adjust your view for that
result. Saying Natasha Richardson died because she refused
treatment is not inconsistent with that point of view. Stop
letting your arguments be hijacked by ideology -- use logic and
reason.
Angel| 4.12.09 @ 5:06PM
No broad generalities--just some common-sense medical care.
Natasha's case wasn't rocket science--the Canadians screwed up
big time. I'm sorry she died for nothing; I just don't want their
crappy health care system down here.
Angel| 4.12.09 @ 5:08PM
Too bad you defend mediocrity; I don't. Your fancy education
hasn't served you well. You've settled, I won't.
Frosty| 4.12.09 @ 5:10PM
You're not a fiscal conservative; you're a liberal whore. You let
your slavish obedience to fascist liberalism get in the way of
reason. Loser.
Bill Bailey| 4.12.09 @ 10:13PM
Dear jharp of Longmont, Colorado
(http://www.myspace.com/37897713): Do your masters pay you by the
word or the comment? I'd like to know so we can approach the
rightist puppet masters who run the world and ask them to pay us
to troll your favorite lefty sites.
Jim| 4.12.09 @ 11:14PM
As a liberal jharp no doubt has sex with animals and thus is
concerned about contracting rabies.
Angel| 4.13.09 @ 1:24AM
No doubt. LOL
Ahn O'Nymous| 4.13.09 @ 9:52AM
Bob: I think you are missing a vital point here. Disregarding
Natasha's choice to refuse treatment, and our own fiscal
conservatism, in a state like Canada, where nationalized health
care is the norm, which makes more sense? To spend tax monies on
using helicopters to drop medicated bait for rodents, or to have
"a rapid transit system that gives them the best chance to not
only survive, but to survive with a quality of life."
(http://spectator.org/blog/2009/04/10/quebecs-not-so-urgent-care).
Which is more important: A human life, or the well-being of
rodents?
Teleprompter Messiah| 4.10.09 @ 1:49PM
Blasphemy! Don't you cretinous Americans know that Canada's healthcare system makes it your moral superior. Thus, you may lead the world in pioneering medical treatments, development of pharaceuticals, have the foremost medical teaching institutions, researchers and research facilities and most metropolitan areas may have more medical diagnostic equipment than entire provinces you are still benighted and uncaring social Darwinians.
ruth| 4.10.09 @ 1:52PM
But what about all of those Canadian posters who so vehemently defended Quebec's healthcare system? They said it was first rate--what gives? Pepe Le Pew--so funny.
Matthew Vadum| 4.10.09 @ 2:24PM
And people aren't important enough, jharp, to deserve the use of helicopters to travel to emergency medical care facilities?
Please tell me you are joking.
Daphne| 4.10.09 @ 2:35PM
I commented that Natasha Richardson probably would have survived her head injury if she'd been skiing in the U.S., and I couldn't believe some of the hysterical replies I received. I guess I hit a nerve.
Conservative One| 4.10.09 @ 2:45PM
jharp is a skunk. Unfortunately for us, the rabies vaccine airdrop missed him.
Teleprompter Messiah| 4.10.09 @ 3:22PM
jharp: If you are intellectually honest tell us less evolved individuals what defects there are in your vision of free healthcare.
Ahn O'Nymous| 4.10.09 @ 3:27PM
Utterly ridiculous.
jharp: I have a simpler solution for rabid animals. They cost, on average, about twenty cents a piece and you can get them at any sporting goods store in boxes of 20 - 500. They come in a variety of sizes, types, weights, and compositions, but they all get the job done just as well - and none of them require the use of a helicopter. The application system can some times cost upwards of $600US, but they are very easy to maintain and typically last for generations.
Dropping animal bait laced with rabies medication makes about as much fiscal sense as putting deer on birth control. You're shafting people out of tax dollars that could be spent on something more practical - like, I don't know, medevac helicopters?
Seriously; who is dumb enough to get near a raccoon, skunk, or fox without shooting it first anyway? These aren't exactly petting zoo animals we're talking about, and I would certainly hope any crazies keeping them as pets would know how to tell whether or not one of their animals is rabid.
Aaron| 4.10.09 @ 7:01PM
Its the damn Canadians again! At the least they could drop jharp from the chopper laced with bait.
Bob| 4.11.09 @ 6:27AM
Vadum, you seem to completely miss one of the major points here -- Natasha Richardson REFUSED treatment. I thought you were a conservative and believed in individual responsibility. Now you want to have a nanny state with helicopters sprinkled everywhere?
I also thought, as a conservative, you'd be in favor of capitalism. I guess not. The companies involved in buying helicopters use them because they make economic sense for their bottom lines. How you can compare the purchase of a helicopter for a company to a publicly available helicopter that isn't used much is beyond me. First you are against "socialized" medicine, then you want more "socialized" medicine in the form of a helicopter.
Make up your mind. Are you a conservative or a lib?
Lorraine| 4.11.09 @ 1:32PM
Vadum:
How dare you insult a healthcare system that is freely available to all. She refused treatment!
Quebec,(along with the rest of the provinces)are only trying to maintain its natural resources that are so greatly being reaped by the US.
Canada is okay as long as you're taking our water, hydro and natural gas.
ps.leave the skunks alone they don't carry guns!
Joe| 4.11.09 @ 8:14PM
hahaha, you have JHarp commenting here. The worst troll you'll ever meet in your lifetime. patterico banned him last year.
Bill Bailey| 4.11.09 @ 10:10PM
jharp wastes everybody's time here. He uses specious hairsplitting arguments, the kind you see every day at Media Matters. I get the feeling he's bipolar but won't take his medication.
Whether Richardson refused treatment or not (really, she initially refused treatment and then an hour later changed her mind as pain set in, and then it still took the Canadians 3 or more hours to get her to a proper facility) they didn't have the services in place to save her life.
Don't be distracted by all the dumb red herrings that jharp and obnoxious Bob throw out.
Bill Bailey| 4.11.09 @ 10:12PM
Is this jharp's myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/37897713
Angel| 4.11.09 @ 10:38PM
Bob, Natasha had a head injury; she wasn't in her right mind. "Real" professionals would have understood that and administered proper medical care to her. I'm shocked by the poor medical attention she received: The Canadians were clueless. She died for nothing.
MT| 4.11.09 @ 10:42PM
Bob and jharp both have serious head injuries. They repeat themselves over and over and over and over and ..... Ad Nauseam.
Mutty| 4.11.09 @ 11:19PM
OMG, Bill--is jharp the turd on the right flippin' the bird at the camera? What an Ahole loser. His friends look like losers, too.
Bob| 4.12.09 @ 10:31AM
Angel, so what do you recommend? Do you recommend that at all remote resorts in the U.S. that we have helicopters and neurosurgeons? According to Gupta on CNN, by the time she changed her mind, it was too late anyway -- even to be flown out.
I'm one of those fiscal conservatives who believe in individual responsibility. I don't want someone making decisions for me even if I have a bump on the head. How you can be a conservative and believe otherwise is just beyond me.
The emergency medical treatment was available in Canada -- but Canada is a relatively sparsely populated country and you cannot expect everyone to be everywhere.
The problem here is that many of you WANT to find something wrong with Canada's health care system so you adjust your view for that result. Saying Natasha Richardson died because she refused treatment is not inconsistent with that point of view. Stop letting your arguments be hijacked by ideology -- use logic and reason.
Angel| 4.12.09 @ 5:06PM
No broad generalities--just some common-sense medical care. Natasha's case wasn't rocket science--the Canadians screwed up big time. I'm sorry she died for nothing; I just don't want their crappy health care system down here.
Angel| 4.12.09 @ 5:08PM
Too bad you defend mediocrity; I don't. Your fancy education hasn't served you well. You've settled, I won't.
Frosty| 4.12.09 @ 5:10PM
You're not a fiscal conservative; you're a liberal whore. You let your slavish obedience to fascist liberalism get in the way of reason. Loser.
Bill Bailey| 4.12.09 @ 10:13PM
Dear jharp of Longmont, Colorado
(http://www.myspace.com/37897713): Do your masters pay you by the word or the comment? I'd like to know so we can approach the rightist puppet masters who run the world and ask them to pay us to troll your favorite lefty sites.
Jim| 4.12.09 @ 11:14PM
As a liberal jharp no doubt has sex with animals and thus is concerned about contracting rabies.
Angel| 4.13.09 @ 1:24AM
No doubt. LOL
Ahn O'Nymous| 4.13.09 @ 9:52AM
Bob: I think you are missing a vital point here. Disregarding Natasha's choice to refuse treatment, and our own fiscal conservatism, in a state like Canada, where nationalized health care is the norm, which makes more sense? To spend tax monies on using helicopters to drop medicated bait for rodents, or to have "a rapid transit system that gives them the best chance to not only survive, but to survive with a quality of life." (http://spectator.org/blog/2009/04/10/quebecs-not-so-urgent-care). Which is more important: A human life, or the well-being of rodents?