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John| 1.15.09 @ 1:28PM
LEFT? How about drifting into completely inert? Incoherent, perhaps? Maybe a combination of the two... Inert incoherence.... a new phrase with a new definition...
I have never given Conservatives and Republicans (Of which I am a Conservative Republican) much credit for too much political acumen. It takes too much loyalty and comity within the ranks to achieve the sort of long term purposeful movement in a particular socio-political direction. Conservatives love talking a big game and rarely stick around long enough to be effective. They generally leave out of disgust or boredom or both before gaining the power to move things in their direction.
This leaves the "MeToo's" and "Scrap Eaters" at the table. Those who are the leftovers are serving their betters.... I suppose.
Now Lindsey the Lackey Graham, and his nasal docking port John McCain have signed on for the table scraps.
Back when McCain took a pass on actually campaigning against The One, I figured that this would happen. It just took far less time than I ever thought.
It is sad to see and is made worse because the Right is in a food fight over who is smarter or purer or both or neither. It is going to be a long few years. There is little hope for better on the horizon.
Hillary Clinton isn't a even a reasonable choice to be .... Oh, forget it! It is pointless. The clones are winning.
sheesh...
-John
Sean| 1.15.09 @ 1:41PM
What do you expect? Most of the elected Republicans are NOT conservatives.
Bob| 1.15.09 @ 1:58PM
With all due respect, Quin doesn't know what he talking about since he values ideology over reason. While I don't think Hillary is the best choice for State, the guys who confirmed her know her better than any of us and they have nothing but good things to say about her. Words like "smart", "hard worker", "works across the isle", etc., are what we hear. When ideology blinds you to the whole truth, you can no longer be trusted for your opinion.
What is sad about the current crop of Republicans is that they lack any leadership and cajones. They won't tell the truth because their social conservative base doesn't want to hear the truth and they won't come forward with new ideas because they don't want to be criticized by ideological publications and pundits.
That's why they are rolling over for Obama. Down in the deep recesses of their gray matter they know he's basically right and reaching across the isle.
ruth| 1.15.09 @ 3:10PM
Bob, I know for sure now that you're a dummy, regardless of your purported Ivy League education, (can anyone say affirmative action?). Your defense of Hillary Clinton is abhorrent considering the fact that she is tainted by numerous scandals, many that have been explored in TAS. Whitewater, Cattle Futures, abuse of FBI files (What does she have on Obama?), Travelgate, secret meetings of her (Socialized) Healthcare Task Force, Dubai Ports deal, ad nauseum. Just two of the big whoppers she's told in public: That she was named for Sir Edmund Hillary, who was just a beekeeper when she was born, and her most famous fib: dodging sniper fire with Chelsea in Bosnia. The woman is a corucopia of lies, deception and alleged criminal activity, which is particularly fitting since she is also from Chicago, the city that has given us Blago and Obama.
Bob| 1.15.09 @ 3:31PM
Ruthie... If you follow the ideologues in the opposite party to the Presidency, you can come up with the same sort of list. Reagan -- Iran/Contra, Bush -- WMD, torture, signing statements, unauthorized surveillance, etc. I am NOT defending Hillary as I would have liked to see someone different in that spot, but you don't get a 16-1 committee vote without having some redeeming qualities. She was never convicted of any of your accusations. What about Cheney's secret meetings with Halliburton and the oil industry? Regarding Dubai, there were a number of free market Republicans who thought that was fine. She paid dearly for the sniper fire exaggeration. All of these things were researched and were not deemed illegal.
So Ruth, you and Quin seem to be the dummies here. What surprises me, looking at a distance, is the great respect she receives on both sides of the isle. I don't quite understand it, but these are the guys that deal with her on a daily basis. The only one who didn't vote for her has a problem with prostitutes. You must believe he's a good guy....
ruth| 1.15.09 @ 3:51PM
Bob, think. This isn't rocket science. It's the purloined FBI files.
Bob| 1.15.09 @ 4:36PM
Ruthie, here's a good summary of Filegate so you can talk on a factual basis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_FBI_files_controversy
Again, you and Quin are factually challenged...
jrw| 1.15.09 @ 4:39PM
Isles are places where lonely and irrelevant conservative wingnuts will have to exile themselves to. Aisles are passages across which politicians can metaphorically reach.
Bob| 1.15.09 @ 4:48PM
jrw -- quite right... my apologies...
ruth| 1.15.09 @ 5:05PM
Both Bob and jrw should apologize for their acceptance and approval of the deep democrat corruption now in power.
Bob| 1.16.09 @ 8:15AM
Ruthie, both elected Democrats AND Republicans are to blame. And by the way, Obama is not President yet. It is interesting to note that during Bush's term, unemployment rose from 4.2% to 7.2% and the deficit rose from a $200 million surplus to a $1.2 trillion deficit. In the last 8 years, Republicans controlled all of government for 6 of those years. It is certainly dumb to just blame the Democrats for the situation we're in. In fact, we Republicans who believe in failed supply side economics and put unaccomplished, unknowledgeable people in the White House have a lot of blame to go around. It is time to change our party, put the smart people in charge, be more pragmatic, look at real facts and stop dumbing down the party to appeal to social conservatives.
ruth| 1.16.09 @ 3:06PM
Bobi, you belong with the liberals, they don't care about corruption either. Like you, they wear it as a badge of honor; as in no honor among thieves.
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