The American Spectator : Doomed Beyond All Hope of Redemption

Cincinnatus| 11.7.12 @ 2:42AM

I fear you are correct in your assessment. I have always deferred to the collective genius of the American voter and acknowledged that I have no monopoly on wisdom or the intentions of our Creator. I firmly believe that Gov. Romney ran a very effective campaign. No fault there. The President had no record of success to run on other than Bin Laden and the auto bailout (successful only by his claim). He didn't offer an agenda for the future. He lied about Benghazi. He flopped in the debates. He had nothing to offer for a vote. And yet . . .. It appears the electorate is stuck defending against the infidels on the other "side". Whether this is the result of 2000 and the animus that was seared deep into the collective psyche's of the left, Bush derangement syndrome, or some other perceived slight is not particularly relevant. Worse, it may be that half the country is prepared to abandon markets and veer toward a socialist model. These realities cause me to wonder, for the first time, whether the tipping point. If so, it is unsustainable and will fail, but when?

Alan Brooks | 11.7.12 @ 7:10AM

Doesn't make sense with all the first-rate Republicans, you choose Bushes, Doles, McCains, Romneys.
Is it an Everyman concept? Bushes, Doles, McCains are average, ordinary, as the rest of us?
There are a certain number of Republicans as talented as Goldwater, WFB, as witty as Tom Wolfe; however you want a blatant opportunist such as Romney?

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:26AM

Doesn't matter who we pick. Your side had picked fools, ne-er-do-wells and morons: Carter, Mondale, Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama.

The nominee is merely a symptom - the real disease lies in the American character.

R Martin| 11.7.12 @ 11:58AM

Spot-on. And when the American character is defined by politicians such as Obama and Elizabeth Warren, the disease could be terminal.

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 12:31PM

As long as you continue to view Blacks, Hispanics, women and gays as second class citizens who do not hold fundamental American value (Hint: not defined as white, patriarchal "father knows best") and only want to sponge off of the 53% you will continue to lose elections.

MaryTudor| 11.7.12 @ 12:53PM

As long as other women keep voting like idiots who do not hold fundamental American values, I'm afraid I'll have to keep viewing them as such. You vote like a sponge, act like a sponge, well...duck, quack.

Jimbobogie| 11.7.12 @ 4:09PM

It's comments like this that will guarantee that the current voting blocks stay where they are-and as long as they do, it's going to be extremely difficult to sell true conservative values.

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 6:38PM

It already IS extremely difficult to sell true conservative values...isn't that painfully obvious?

Cincy Jan| 11.8.12 @ 1:23PM

Well said.

Cincy Jan| 11.8.12 @ 1:25PM

Well said, BEWILDERED!

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 6:56PM

I personally hope that NJ Gov Chris Christie is a permanent 'persona non grata' in the GOP. Politics is the dirtiest business in which humans engage. We now know that not only do we reside in the new United Socialist States of America, but a majority of our voting electorate are complete fools as well as sheep.
I had no misgivings about the ultimate outcome, but I did hold out a slim hope that the dismal failure-ridden four years of Obamanation would make a tight race, possibly an upset of the charismatic but criminally incompetent Liar-in-Chief. Not so. Putting any faith in the American electorate is a foolhardy & frustrating waste of time.
So long as the Dimocrap Party owns the mainstream media in this country, I see little hope of turning back the rising liberal tide (tide? - 'more like a 'tsunami!). The age of Obama, unfortunately, is far, far from being over.
Once he’s packed the Supreme Court, & with his hold on the US Senate, it won't matter much that the GOP still has the US House...in fact, I honestly wonder just what will matter...We are facing that fiscal cliff within weeks...but the moral & cultural cliff?...as a people & nation, we have already walked off that precipice, & are now in freefall.
Our Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves.

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 10:49PM

I would like your permission to copy and reprint this post in other forums as an example of how sick comtemporary RWNJs are.

Bewildered| 11.8.12 @ 4:20PM

By all means, Mike (in N.C.)...I appreciate the compliment, and I have no problem whatsoever with you reprinting my post on this topic.

PolishKnight| 11.7.12 @ 1:55PM

Yeah, middle and upper class white women are the most oppressed creatures on Earth. On the Titanic, they sometimes had to carry their luggage filled with valuables while working class men went to their deaths. Fiddle dee dee!

The left's victim entitlement groups are the most hypocritical and unjustified group of grabbers on the planet. In Mexico, if someone is an illegal immigrant, they can simply throw them in jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. But somehow it's "second class" citizen status to expect that someone who comes into a nation illegally actually work for a living and not go on welfare. Perish the thought!

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 2:26PM

Shouldn't there be an asterisk in your idiotic comment? Because YOU view any conservtive black or Hispanic as less than human and a second class citizen. If I say "Condi Rice," you'll say "house negro." If I say "Alan West," You'll say step-n-fetchit. If I say "Clarence Thomas, you'll say "slave." If I say "Thomas Sowell," you'll say "escapee from the liberal plantation."

It is YOUR party who are the racists. You view everyone first and foremost through the prism of their race and/or gender, and believe they should be judged first and foremost on that basis.

We see PEOPLE. You see potential victim groups, Mike.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:34PM

Every warning that was given to us has come to pass. John Adams' missive about Republics needing Good and Honest/God Fearing People if they are to Survive. Benjamin Franklin spoke from a knowledge of Historical References when he replied to that woman on the Street: "A Republic, Madame. If you can keep it." And, of course - Winston Churchill - who dead panned about Democracies: "They are the Worst Form of Government, except for all the others."

We saw Black Panthers back at the Polling Places, unmolested by a Blacks Only Justice Department. We saw the NAACP manning Polling Places. Posters of Obama INSIDE the Polling Places.

We saw Blacks in Illinois, Re-elect a Black Representative (Jesse Jackass Jr) even though he has been Out of Commission for over a Year because he's in a Mental Institution. We have seen Blacks Elect a Black Representative (Alcee Hastings) who previously had been a State Supreme Court Justice in the State of Florida, but was Impeached for TAKING BRIBES. We have seen Blacks in D.C. Re-elect a Black Mayor (Marion Barry) pretty much the next day after he got out of Prison for Smoking Crack with a Whore, is a No tell Motel, while the FBI Filmed the whole thing. And, of course, Blacks sent a Black Representative (Charlie Rangel) back to the House, even though he Refused to pay his Taxes, and was in Posession of 4 Rent Stabilized Apartments, in NYC, that were meant for The Poor, and The Elderly.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:35PM

What we saw last night was a microcosm of what some people mean, when they say: Democracy is not for everybody.

That's what they said about The Arabs. That's what they say about Sub Saharan Africa. That's what I am saying about the Blacks in this Country.

Who is the Group in this Country that is the Worst Off. It's the Blacks. They have an Out of Wedlock Birthrate that is over 80%. Although they are only 12% of the Population, they Committ 56% of all of the Violent Crimes in this Country. There is almost No Black, in this Country, who doesn't have a Family Member, somewhere in the Court System, be it In Prison, On Parole, On Trial, Awaiting Trial, Awaiting Sentencing, On Parole, or in a Halfway House, somewhere.

The #1 Cause of Death for young Black Males 15-26 is HOMICIDE.

Their situation was Bad before Their Great Black Hope put on the Crown. But, during the next 4 Years their problems have Worsened, almost Exponentially.

One of the first things the Black President did, was to Eliminate the Private School Vouchers for the Poor Black Kids in D.C. In exchange for MONEY from the Teachers Unions. His Tsunami of New Regulations on Businesses, along with Healthcare Mandates, and his Oppressive EPA and their Heavy Fines, have brought Hirings to a Dead Halt. What once was 8% Black Unemployment, has become 15%. Black Youth Unemploymentnis over 50%. More Black Males are in Prison than ever before, with no Hope for any kind of Change, when they get out.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:36PM

Nothing has improved for Blacks, and yet they gave ALL OF THEIR VOTES to him, and Martin Luther King Jr. died for Nothing.

They live in the Ghetto because that's where their Black Leaders want them to be. Right there in one place, on their knees, with no hope of a better life. They have been Conditioned to be satisfied with a Minimal Existance. Their Individuality and their Honour have been taken from them. Their Fathers have been replaced by Charlatan Black Politicians, leaving only Baby Daddies, in their wake. When was the last time that you saw a 2 or more Black Kids with the same Mom who both had the same last name?

Girls and women and Girlfriends and Sweethearts have been replaced by B*tches and Hoes. And they all co-mingle in Communities, like Farm Animals in a Fenced in Field.

Everything that could have gotten worse has, under the last 4 Years of Obama. Not a single thing in these people's lives has been improved upon. He got their Votes for one reason and one reason only. And it wasn't the Content of his Character.

Martin Luther King Jr. Was Shot and Killed in 1968. He gave his life, that his fellow Black Anericans could have a Shot at his Dream that we could all come together as Americans, and not as Blacks or Whites.

Last night was just another reminder that he gave up his life for Nothing.

He had the right idea.

Blacks are just not Capable of a Rational Thought Process in making decisions for their futures.

They've been proving that for the last 50 Years.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 2:51PM

TLP...you sound JUST like Malcom X or the Black Panthers of old. Not criticizing but ...think about it.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 5:09PM

As far as those other guys go?

Even a Broken Clock is right, twice a day.

Farrakhan has some Good Ideas.

And, Hitler built the Autoban, Designed the VW Beetle, and had the Trains running on time.

Get the picture?

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 7:49PM

"And, Hitler built the Autoban, Designed the VW Beetle, and had the Trains running on time."
Actually, you are right. But let's be real - Farrakhan is a demagogue and a rabid racist...not to mention psychotic.

Hitler commissioned the trans-national highway system as a public works project in the 1930's - after all, they were in a depression just like us (US). Experts say it's the finest example of road construction in the world...the road beds are so deep, and the curves so well drawn out that it is possible to cruise the Autobahn in relative safety at almost any speed you choose, if your driving skills are up to it. Do you know of any highways in the US that were laid 80 years ago and are in top shape today, without much (if any) maintenance or repair? and also looking like they were laid down last year?...
I don't.
He commissioned the VolksWagen as the "peoples' car" and it was, most surely, ahead of its time...air-cooled, high mileage, low maintenance. But then, this is the land of Mercedes-Benz, too. They know a thing or two about how to build cars that outlast their owners.
The trains did run on time in Nazi Germany... unfortunately, many of then were pulling cattle cars filled to bursting with the victims of the Nazi's perverted social engineering and racial purification lunatic theories.

Police states are well known for great efficiency in certain aspects of public administration...I guess part of that stems from the consequences of being late...

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 1:47AM

Margaret Sanger (Planned Parenthood) gave them the racial purification and social engineering theories. She had the Black Project. They were just more blatant about it. The liberals/socialists have continued the theories using abortion to decimate the black population. More black babies are aborted (majority by PP) than any other race. It amounts to genocide, a specialty of Nazis, Planned Parenthood, communists, socialists, liberals. They call it a woman's right to choose, or women's "health care".......

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:15PM

It's god's intention that GOP lost.

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:13PM

It's time to shut down GOP!

TNcracker | 11.8.12 @ 12:06AM

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you stated, TLP, as usual. I don't come here often, because I dislike having to read the gibberish that the usual trolls write. It would be pleasant for me if posters like you who have reasoned thoughts would ignore the fools.
How nice if we could have just this one day to discuss the election without the trash troll comments. But predictably classless as they are, it was not to be.

WaffenSS| 11.8.12 @ 9:54PM

this reads like ....an Italian!

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:13PM

It's time to shut down GOP!

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 10:55PM

You might want to check some statistics among whites in Red States, Sunshine.

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 10:59PM

You might want to check some statistics on poor whites in Red States, Sunshine.

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:12PM

It's time to shut down GOP!

Katie| 11.8.12 @ 1:37PM

No Republican I know thinks of any of these as second class citizens. However, you have to admit, an awful lot of people from all racial, ethnic and other groups sponge off those of us who pay the taxes. I resent the person in front of me at the market who pays with food stamps and then buys a carton of cigarettes.

Jack in Wi| 11.7.12 @ 8:06AM

Amen Alan: I voted for Romney as the lesser evil but he was still pretty evil. May this be the last we see of the Bushes and Karl Rove. Their boy romney could not get it done. My vote for Romney was the 13th I have cast since for the Republican nominee since I started voting 48 years ago. In all those elections the only one that was any good was Reagan in 1980. Even Reagan in 1984 ran a pablum campaign. If we are going to lose lets at least lose with some principles.

Jack.| 11.7.12 @ 8:41AM

It's God's will that Obama continues to lead our government.

Accept God's will. He always knows what's best.

Anna K. from Emory U.| 11.7.12 @ 8:43AM

Ditto, Jack.

"This is the day the Lord has made,
Rejoice and be glad in it . . ."

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:23AM

He must be really pissed at the U. S.

Al Adab| 11.7.12 @ 10:26AM

He is KJ:
We have been weighed in the balance and found wanting. For our idolotry we have been judged for He judges the nations while He preserves a remnant for Himself.

Von Mises Jr| 11.7.12 @ 11:10AM

I believe that Benghazi was a message. Obama said four years ago "we are the ones we have been waiting for." The socialist have been trying to implement Rousseau's "Noble Savage" Utopia for 250 years.
The belief is that if they could deprogram man from his faulty socialization, that they could design their "Brave New World" subjects. Libya was perfect with 7th century barbarians as a test case. But the Frankenstein monsters sodomized and assassinated our Ambassador.
Remember when Obama said he will "stop the seas from rising and heal the planet." God did. He rose the seas 13'8" in Battery Park 7 days (isn't 7 in the Bible all the time) flooding the MTA and most tunnels. The least our King Canute look-a-like could have done is set up his throne at the Statue of Liberty and command the seas to subside.
So now those that lust after others goods are in the streets with a winter storm starting today. I lived and worked in NYC area all my life. I know what these people are like.
And when they get back to work, if they still have a job, they will be paying about 50% higher in Federal Taxes starting January 1st along with a 2% rise in Social Security taxes.
This is no accident. I wonder if God will mind if I get any satisfaction of hearing them wailing and gnashing their teeth.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 11:24AM

They will NEVER give you that satisfaction, VMJr.

They will blame conservatives and Republicans and libertarians and Tea Party members; consequently, the credulous masses, the products of progressive educations and progressive culture and progressive politics, will advocate for the rounding up all the recalcitrant people who won't "get with the program" and either re-educate us or elminate us.

Then the masses will insist that Uncle Sam print more money to alleviate the higher taxes and the higher prices, and Uncle Sam will accommodate them.

If you're too stupid to realize that the medicine itself is what's killing you, you deserve to die.

And they won't die cursing their own stupidity - they'll go to their graves blaming us.

As for God, I do not believe he's taking an active role in any of this; call me a Deist, if you must, but he's looking down at this mess and quoting Puck in A Midsummer Night's Dream: "Lord what fools these mortals be."

Indeed.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 11:28AM

Cuckoo.
Cuckoo.
Cuckoo.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:31PM

ralph - Thanks for clearing that up for us, we now know what you are.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 2:28PM

Shouldn't you be in a clock somewhere? You might serve some discernable function as one of those wooden trinkets that pops out on the hour.

And you've already got your lines down! And they say liberals are stupid! Don't you listen to 'em, Ralphie boy: You make a fine cuckoo.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 6:09PM

Clarification (since the logical hierarchy of TAS's comment/reply system isn't very deep):

The "cuckoos" are directed at von Mises' comments.

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 12:32PM

No, He is just fine with the U.S.

Ronald54321| 11.7.12 @ 2:14PM

He is.

rhcrest| 11.8.12 @ 3:24PM

Another brain dead Obama supporter

Jack in Wi| 11.7.12 @ 9:58AM

What do the Democrats stand for but abortion, homosexuality, sky high taxes, massive wasteful government, endless wars and bailouts of there pals? This is not God's will but Satan's. In the Satan always loses. Let Obama and the Democrats take the fall for the collapse that is surely coming. At least they can't blame that on us. Run the country into the ground. It is headed there and nothing can stop that run away train.

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 10:02AM

Running low on Prozac?

Riff Raff| 11.7.12 @ 10:48AM

Running high on crack?

Jack in Wi| 11.7.12 @ 12:48PM

What's the matter can't stand the Truth? That's what the Democrats stand for. Collect all those tax dollars from the tattooed ladies and gents and all wefare queens down in the Ghetto. The purse has run dry. Everything comes crashing down in the end. You can't print money forever. Somebody has to pay the bills. It's yours now. The last 5 years are going to look good compared to the future. Bring on the Muslims. They can't be anyworse then the combination of homosexuals, libertines, and loafers who now run the country. In the end this will end up like Chicago at the best and Cuba at the worst.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:37PM

Jack in Wi -- debating with a progressive/liberal is a lost cause. Only dopes like them come out of a voting booth and state they voted for obama because of joblessness and high living costs, then vote for four more years of the same. What they really meant was they don't want the government gravy train to end. Hard work, success, being productive, truth, honesty, integrity, those words don't exist in their vocabulary.

Cuffs| 11.8.12 @ 12:55PM

Obama and all law makers could care less about
destroying this country. They all have their wonderful healthcare and millions of dollars each.
The laws they pass don't effect them. They are
interested in power and more opportunity to
fill their pockets. They don't give a damn, got
it?

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:39AM

" At least they can't blame that on us."
Excuse me Jack in Wi...but that's exactly what they will do and with the media's help, it will stick.

The Tea Party and Republican Congress are the new George Bush. As Obama and his Soviet handlers gets geared up to continue his campaign of punishment against the US, our economy will crumble and the saftey net that we will all need desperately, will collapse as well. Guess who will be the fall guy when there is no money to fund welfare? Well hey, that's been the conservative boogey man for decades. They have finally succeeded in destroying the programs that liberals have stood up for all these years.

Not to worry, the Democrats are here to protect you from the evil conservatives for years to come. We are now or will be enemies of the state.

Immortal 600| 11.7.12 @ 2:02PM

CH,
I agree with this. They are going to blame the Republican led House when the inevitable fall occurs. I suggest now (the R's can't stop it now) that the Republican house members give the Democrats carte blanche. When the economy does collapse who will they blame then?

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 11:36AM

...and you wonder why the GOP lost? Reagan won not by insulting the American people, but appealling to their best qualities and pointing out what amazing things they have and can accomplish. Today's GOP thinks they can get people to vote for them by calling them "deadbeats", "slackers" and "takers". How dumb can they get?

The Big E| 11.7.12 @ 12:02PM

RCV, you're point about Reagan is well taken, but you're point about insulting the voters has one major flaw - the Democrats do the same thing - only to aneven greater degree. Everyone who opposes Obama is a racist! Republicans oppose Obamacare because they want old people to die! Republicans support increased energy production because they want to poison the air and water! I could go on and on, ad nauseum. The message from the left is clear - anyone who disagrees with them on ANYTHING is evil, despicable, hateful, etc.

The Big E| 11.7.12 @ 12:03PM

My grammar sucks today. Obviously, that should have been your, not you're.

Jack in Wi| 11.7.12 @ 1:10PM

The Democrats stand for nothing but abortion, homsexuality sky high taxes, massive waste and fraud, bloated government unions, endless war all over the world, assassination and torture, race baiting, and a war on religion. Romney ran a pablum campaign and insulted no-one, except Ron Paul supporters, and pro-life Christians, who could have been enough to elect him. He ran as someone who would be a better manager of the wars and welfare state. He was a pro-abortion, pro-homsexuality liberal and ran away from every conservative issue. The person I follow said. " My Kingdom is not of this world. " Barack Obama has solved nothing in 4 years and isn't going to do much good in the next 4. You own it now. I voted for Romney but he would have done little that I want done. Romney and Obama were just twins of the Ivy league Wallstreet elite who have ruined the country.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:42PM

No one belittles people more than the liar-in-chief, but because you are a slave to what the progressive/liberal media feeds you, you can' t think for yourself. Your knowledge is based on two minute sound bites fed to you by a biased media. Who and when did any GOP leader call anyone deadbeats, slackers, or takers? You are liar like many on the left. They feed you personal attacks and lies and you lap it up like a dog.

MaryTudor| 11.7.12 @ 12:57PM

At some point, God has to smite the heretics. Note that the east coast is about to get slammed again (and if you think I'd lift a finger or spend a dime on relief, think again. Clearly they're too rich to worry about taxes, so they can take care of themselves.) But the point is to repent. The deviants won so they think they don't HAVE to repent. But see who cries loudest when they need help and the rest of us won't give it any more.

Immortal 600| 11.7.12 @ 2:04PM

Mary, I agree. No relief funds from me. As a matter of fact I've decided to quit donating to charity. Let the libs have the government do it.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:28PM

Its God's punishment for Americans turning their backs on Him and embracing a muslim leader.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 5:46PM

he's christian. come back to reality, please. you're scaring the dog.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:00AM

Not all who claim to be christian are.... He was in an anti-american, black nationalist, ersatz marxist church for 20 years and he has supported Muslims (violently anti-christian) over Christians at every turn. He's not a muslim, just an idiot sympathizer but he is most definitely not christian. He has never professed the one necessary belief to be a christian. He was raised by an atheist anti-american, and mentored by an anti-american card carrying communist and sought out Marxist teachers all through college (his words).
You are about as in touch with reality and truth as BO's Professor Bell or Rev Wright. In fact, I would wager that if you were tried in court for sanity and rationality, there would not be enough evidence to convict you of being rational and sane.

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 7:03PM

I think some of use are gonna need just a little bit more than just your word on that, Jack...

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 7:53PM

I think some of us might need a bit more than just your word on that, Jack...

rhcrest| 11.8.12 @ 3:22PM

Yes i am sure that is what the Jews were thinking when Hitler got elected. It sure was for their best interest to get loaded up into those ovens wasn't it? I consider anyone who supports him my mortal enemy and if there is a civil war i would gladly start picking off leftists.

Bewildered| 11.8.12 @ 3:50PM

Well, Let's hope it doesn't come to that... Dimocraps control the military and outnumber the GOP by quite a bit...Ozero has been talking for four years about a 'domestic police militia' that would be directed by (who else?) the federalies...or Obamanables, as I like to call them.
Might doesn't always make right...an' the 'good guys' would not win that one, just like we didn't win the election battle a couple of days ago...

rhcrest| 11.8.12 @ 3:25PM

Yes i am sure that was what the Jews were thinking when Hitler got elected. It sure was for their best interest to be put into those ovens- wasn't it?

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:43AM

I don't understand why all the long faces today. The race was a razor thin one that was close. A damaged "moment" prez almost beaten by a damaged caricature candidate. The only learning was that his tack to the middle nearly did it, not a neurotic pandering to the adolescents on the extreme fringe.

The senate was the real prize to be seized and the GOP blew it - again.

The post-mortem should not be how the party could have dressed up the parade of hacks and clowns on the presidential ticket any better than it did, but how the baggers once again infiltrated slamdunk primaries like Indiana and Missouri.

The war has to start now - inside the base.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:44PM

In what way was Romney a damaged caricature candidate?

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:14PM

George Jetson hair and "severely" conservative narrative.

Ward Cleaver in the age of Modern Family.

Cognitive dissonance in action,

Bewildered| 11.8.12 @ 4:16PM

Part 1 - I don't think it matters much to anyone whether Ozero won by 1% or 10%...he won. Status Quo.

Tuesday night, he sounded the clarion call to "work together" but where have we have heard that song before? And, more to the point, what's his excuse for not having done that over the last four years???
He has no intention of being bipartisan...He's not running for anything, and so now the gloves come off and pretenses are no longer necessary. If he can't get what he wants from Congress, he'll circumvent them entirely with executive edicts, and nobody in the House has the balls to challenge him, or call for impeachment for his continual and predictable abuse of power.

His open displays of anger in the campaign reflected his outrage at being challenged and questioned. He really does believe he is some sort of 'god,' or at the very least, that he should be treated as one.

Bewildered| 11.8.12 @ 4:17PM

Part 2 -
For those who regarded him as 'dangerous' in his first term (an' I can be counted in that group), he can now give full vent to his megalomania. He is now far more dangerous, because he has far less to lose... ...
His legacy?... If he succeeds in breaking both the economic back an' moral spirit of America, enrolling a solid majority of Americans (an' others) in our burgeoning (an' soon to be bankrupt) entitlement system, mortgaging our present and future to godless communist China -
THAT is the legacy he is seeking...an' he really doesn't care what we think...anyone who has ever believed anything he has said publicly should consider that they have been lied to...
The Liar-in-Chief has secured four more years, and he controls the press, the military. , the HSA, IRS, and DOJ. Who stands to oppose him now?
FOX News will become the underground free press, as he has always hated them for opposing an' exposing him - " How dare they?..."
Notice the parallels with other nations that have succumbed to totalitarianism? As a student of modern history, I certainly do...

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 8:59AM

I hate to break it to you, but the next Republican nominee we will see: Jeb Bush. Bank on it.

C. Vernon Crisler | 11.7.12 @ 9:33AM

All I can say Parker is g-ddamn the Republican Party if they serve up another moderate presidential candidate (Jeb Bush, fatso Christie, et al.)

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 9:45AM

I am with you... But I am telling everyone who thinks that salvation of our republic will come from the RNC is whistling 'dixie.' The R's had all three branches not all that long ago and what did they do to roll back government? Just the opposite.

fmm| 11.7.12 @ 10:19AM

The way to win is to use the dems strategy which has been to mislead voters on who they are for decades. If you listen to Obamas words, you would think he was running from a center right position, while actually being an extreme leftist on all issues. GOP candidates need to present themselves as left of center even if they are right of center or true conservatives. Then after elected, vote and lead as true conservatives.

SUBVET| 11.7.12 @ 7:51PM

Parker can't you hear the fiddle playing....?

They CONTROL us no matter who wins......we try to figure it out.....and the beat goes on.

The end justifies the means when the fabian's push their agenda.

Lucifer is at work...............

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 9:14PM

I don't hear a single note being played. What I do hear is, as the saying goes, "Malarkey." Personally, I don't pay much attention to the propaganda or the shills for either of the parties. As for Me and My house, we shall serve the Lord! And I am not interested in much more than that. My duty is to Love the Lord with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength. And to Love My neighbor as I love Myself. I can only hope to be a vessel of mercy by the power of God the Holy Spirit and through Him I am able to beseech His forgiveness for My trespasses as I forgive those who trespass against Me. If I am able to do that and teach my children the narrow path of righteousness I shall have lived a full life .

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:43AM

Can't we just separate already? A house divided against itself cannot stand so let's face reality and go our separate ways. It doesn't have to be painful but it may be necessary. Am I overreacting here?

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 11:37AM

Just try it and the results will be the same as last time.

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 12:34PM

Serve up a Bachmann or a Santorum and see what happens. Think you got beat this time? You will have your ass handed to you in spades.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 3:42PM

Bahmann barely got elected in her own district last night. Alan West got the boot in his. And Pennsylvanians already sent Santorum packing.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 3:43PM

Obvioucly s/b "Bachmann"

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 7:07PM

I know sometimes political memories are pretty short and fleeting...but I have a feeling it'll be more than four (or eight) years before the GOP will turn to the rotund little foul-mouthed RINO from New Jersey for anything...He didn't cost us the election, but he pissed off a lot of Republicans with his touchy-feely photo op with Ozero.

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 10:01AM

Obama will be credited with steering our nation through the Bush Depression, unemployment now a 7.9% and annual deficits now at $1.3 will be history by the end of Obama’s Presidency, and the Republicans will run Bush’s brother, brilliant.

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 10:18AM

I'm with you, vtwin. I sincerely believe Obama is going to lead this country back into prosperity.

But if he wiped out the national debt, increased employment, made our health care better than ever, the bitter reactioneries on this site would still condemn him.

They hate him with such verocity. Why? I do not know.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:44AM

He hated us first Pony and still does. The feeling's mutual.

Stephie| 11.7.12 @ 11:39AM

Indeed CrackerHound, indeed.

Anti-Statist| 11.7.12 @ 10:48AM

You and vtwin are both idiots. Obama thanks you for your vote.

Tell me, how does his welfare statism and crony capitalism lead to prosperity? Has it ever, anywhere, at any time in history?

Jack in Wi| 11.7.12 @ 10:56AM

Europe has been run on the Obama model for many decades. How is that working out? They don't even have much defense spending or war spending. They were put in the toilet by high taxes, social programs, and waste. There isn't one country over there that isn't bankrupt in it's social spending. Low birthrates and high taxes and spending have put them there.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 5:47PM

You decry crony capitalism, yet you voted for Romney? hahahahahahaha...

GobBluthe| 11.7.12 @ 11:34AM

Here is a problem with your theory of Obama leading us to prosperity. By Nov 2016, we will be entering year 8 of the economic expansion. The expansion will as long as the Jan 83-July 90 expansion and second only to the Mar 91-Mar 01 expansion. A recession between now and 2016, it very very likely. Who knows maybe, people will still be blaming Bush, but Obama will certainly have two recessions on his watch.

Gerald| 11.7.12 @ 12:41PM

You are truly an ass with the mind of a child.

I'm going to love watching you suffer. I don't despise Obama he is what he is, I despise people like you who are dumb enough to re-elect him.

Re-read what you just wrote and explain to everyone how will he lead us back to prosperity?

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 7:13PM

Gerald, you really should keep your insults and foul comments directed at the subject matter, NOT at the writer of a comment with which you disagree...This is an open forum, and everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion...at least for the time being.
As soon as "ObamaNation, the Sequel" gets underway, all bets are off on how long popular parts of the US Constitution will remain in force.

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 1:56PM

Pony Express: Actually what your comment shows is that you are quite typical of those on the left and the only thing on which we agree is the very last sentence of your post: "I do not know", and that, my friend, is the problem and why Obama was re-elected.

Those on the left make no distinction between the way they vote, based on hatred and bigotry, and the way the right votes.

If Obama..

"....wiped out the national debt, increased employment, made our health care better than ever, " you are absolutely wrong in claiming that "...the bitter reactioneries on this site would still condemn him."

In a nutshell, that is why "the bitter reactioneries" on this site are so bitter and disagree so strongly with those on the left. You make a statement which you claim to be fact based on no evidence whatsoever, and then proceed to call them "bitter", or bigoted, or hateful and vote against their candidates based on that hateful and bigoted narrative that you make up in your head.

You are wrong. We don't care about his party or the color of his skin. We do care that he has NOT wiped out the national debt, increased employment, etc. etc.

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 3:06PM

Aaron, most Americans recognize Franklin D Roosevelt as the president who led us out of the Great Depression of the 1930s and through the worst global conflict in history. Americans also rank Roosevelt alongside Jefferson and Lincoln as an architect of positive change in our country. Do you agree with this view of Franklin D Roosevelt?

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 5:12PM

vtwin...First...I would appreciate a link supporting your position that "most Americans......".

Thanks.

Bewildered| 11.7.12 @ 7:26PM

I don't agree with that view of FDR.
Delano is one our ten most highly-regarded presidents, but he had no idea how to resolve the depression when he took office in 1933. His administration dithered & experimented with many failed schemes & scenarios before any positive (however weak) results finally developed.
FDR initiated many public works projects to create jobs, but none of that was permanent economic expansion. Most economic historians are in agreement that the 'Great Depression' lasted many years longer in the USA than it needed to, because no one really had any idea how to effectively & successfully combat it.
Our gearing up manufacturing to support Great Britain & other European allies against Hitler & Mussolini kick started a genuine recovery. When Japan destroyed almost the entire US fleet at Pearl Harbor, the USA jumped into WWII and we were working 24/7 at full capacity to win that war for the Allies - the "good guys." Our economy expanded at a phenomenal pace. Give lots of credit to WWII for our ultimate recovery from the depression...

Nightwinger| 11.9.12 @ 11:04AM

Don't forget.....WWII in America also brought wage/price controls and....rationing. It has been said that today's private pension plans derived from employers attempting to get around wage controls by offering deferred income to attract workers.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:15AM

FDR was a socialist. Clueless as to the great depression. Gov spending lengthened the depression, as most economists agree (not the theoretical ones-they are always wrong). Only uneducated and liberals and takers think FDR made positive change. He denigrated the Constitution and Dec of Ind, was a racist, and scornful of the citizenry. He was a rich, entitled, arrogant socialist. He expanded government and started the US on the road to socialism. He did not handle the war well at all and created the conditions of the cold war.
Most Americans think he was a great Pres because the textbooks were written by bad or socialist or revisionist historians and students were propagandized with that view through public education. Are you not aware that Lincoln is being characterized in many school districts as a homosexual, Arab, bastard, and mentally ill?

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:15AM

FDR was a socialist. Clueless as to the great depression. Gov spending lengthened the depression, as most economists agree (not the theoretical ones-they are always wrong). Only uneducated and liberals and takers think FDR made positive change. He denigrated the Constitution and Dec of Ind, was a racist, and scornful of the citizenry. He was a rich, entitled, arrogant socialist. He expanded government and started the US on the road to socialism. He did not handle the war well at all and created the conditions of the cold war.
Most Americans think he was a great Pres because the textbooks were written by bad or socialist or revisionist historians and students were propagandized with that view through public education. Are you not aware that Lincoln is being characterized in many school districts as a homosexual, Arab, bastard, and mentally ill?

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 6:36PM

"Those on the left make no distinction between the way they vote, based on hatred and bigotry, and the way the right votes."

Wow.

We're in Topsy-Turvy Land.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:36PM

Hey brainiac: Verocity is not a word. Perhaps you mean "ferocity?"

You don't know? Well, let's see: look back to the George Bush administration. Remember how you went out of your mind with rage at the mention of his name? Do you recall how so many of you were openly advocating his assassination? How you frothed at the mouth at every single thing he did - some of which are the very same things Obama does (keeping wiretaps, for example) that you LOVE now.

Remember it now? Is the picture coming into focus for you, sport?

Well, take that hatred for Bush that you felt. And now multiply it by 16 trillion, which happens to be our debt now and that won't even begin to describe what I feel for our piece of shit in chief.

fmm| 11.7.12 @ 10:21AM

You are correct. Deficits will approach 2 trillion per year and unemployment will be 13%.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:48PM

It's called: REVENGE against everything good, that this Country has always stood for.

Get your Bible, and read your Revelation.

It's all right there, in Black and White.

Israel will be Abandoned. The Middle East will be thrown in to Nuclear War, and the Muslims will Strike Out against Europe.

The Muslim will continue to Decimate our Armed Forces, unless, and until, someone in The Secret Service gets his Head out of his Ass, and puts an end to The Domestic Enemy standing right in front of them.

It's just that simple.

Praetorians, OBEY YOUR OATH!

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 3:10PM

Muslims mentioned in Revelation?

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 3:44PM

You are a despicable ass TLP.

C. Vernon Crisler | 11.7.12 @ 6:30PM

RCV, I agree with you about TLP. No matter how much someone may despise Obama, calls for his assassination are immoral and criminal.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 10:41PM

Thanks, Vernon. You have always proven yourself a good and decent American patriot. I admire you.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:24PM

Yes he is despicable, in other posts he was also inaccurate, worse liar than BO, bigoted, racist, profane, ungrammatical. Unfortunately, my comments to that effect got that profanity and ignorance directed towards me in defense of him. Glad to see several people recognizing his lack of character besides me.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 5:49PM

So, you're advocating killing our president? I think the secret service is going to be standing right in front of you fairly soon. You need help.

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:16PM

It's god's intention that GOP lost.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:20PM

How do you know? Maybe the GOP is the current Job. God didn't smite Job. Satan did, and proved that Job was righteous.
Maybe God allowed Satan to deceive half the voters into electing an empty headed aspiring King/dictator to prove the righteousness of the opposition.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:14PM

Your perception that Blacks hispanics, women and gays are 2nd class citizens in the eyes of conservatives is evidence of your constant looking in the mirror. The truth: 47% of US is on some welfare, does not pay taxes or contribute to the economy is self evident public info, as is the unfortunate fact that most welfare recipients are black. BO is/trained/functions as Marxist (read his book look at his history) also surrounds himself with similarly trained people (Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod). I am a woman, hispanic/black not gay. I am conservative and do not view anyone as 2nd class citizens, nor does conservative I know. Dems I know w/o exception, by insisting that women, gays, blacks and hispanics need "special" rights, special protections, entitlements, insure that 2nd class status and entitlement mentality. By insisting that abortion is health care and women should be encouraged to get abortions has resulted in not just a lack of morality, but a degradation of women and virtual genocide of blacks (a project started by Sanger /Planned Parenthood deliberately designed to reduce-eliminate the black pop). Stop looking in the mirror, learn the values which resulted in the Dec of Ind and its practical implementation the Constitution. Those are American values, not the irrationality, Marxist, immoral values you define as white patriarchal. The 2nd most discriminated against and minority group is the white american middleaged male. First is the conservative woman.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:19PM

It's scary that you believe that. Genuinely frightening. But today, also HILARIOUS! You lost! American won! Whee!

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:21AM

The 1/2 of the nation that didn't vote for BO lost. It is scary that people like you think reason and truth and fact are frightening. You are a typical product of public school education (which is the result of gov spending and poorly educated teachers and unions and gov propaganda and liberal confusion)

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 6:39PM

fmm:

I predict that YOUR predictions about the deficit and unemployment will be exactly as accurate as the predictions of Tyrrell & Co. here about Obama v. Romney.

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 9:25PM

And right on cue, the first name out of Republican shill extraordinaire, Sean Hannity, today mentions Jeb Bush as the only Republican hope for 2016 during his interview with Ann Coulter. The 'other' shill for RNC nominee's including Chris Christie. This is ridiculous. And a third party will never get elected as long as Americans continue to support Public Education.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:22AM

I agree that public education is bad. I refer to it as Public enemy #1.

scotchieguy| 11.7.12 @ 10:49AM

The candidate was not flawed, the message we have been told was. We are NOT a center-right nation like Gallop said we were. A center-right nation would not elect a fraud like Obama twice.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 5:55PM

You're right about one thing. We're a center left nation. Welcome to the 21st century.

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 9:27PM

We are not a "center-left" nation. We are a nation of third-world socialist immigrants who are convinced this is the land of free money and monthly giveaways. Bribes for votes. Nothing less.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:28PM

Nope. But that's adorable, grampa.

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 11:24PM

Love the intelligent response. When the well is dry, where will you get your daily drink?

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:22AM

I just turn on the tap. Are you sending this message from the 19th century?

Just in case, you may not have heard: Obama won! It's a great day for progress and reason, and those Americans who value both.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:27AM

Reason and Progress won? Nope to use your poor vocabulary. Unions won, socialism won, marxism won, gov control won, confusion won, immorality won, scoundrels won, liars won, irresponsibility won, Malthusian eugenics won.
The Land of the Founding Fathers and Lincoln and liberty is moribund.

Stan Redmond| 11.7.12 @ 6:47PM

we don't get a chance to chose our candidates. Two, maybe three states chose for the rest of us with the rediculous primary system. If Romney had spent as much time destroying Obama as he did Newt, Perry, Bachman, Cain, he would be president today.

Alan Brooks | 11.7.12 @ 7:48PM

Look at how Vic Davis Hanson got it wrong:

"...The problem with diagnosis (3) is that there were plenty of good minority kingpins in the party –Condoleezza Rice, Marco Rubio, and an entire new generation of Hispanic and Asian governors and senators."

Condi Rice is a heavyweight?

And what of hispanics? ypu really think they are for adequately controlling the border with Mexico ?

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:06PM

As Condi being a heavyweight, compared to our present Secretary of State? Not just yes, but hell yes.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:28AM

On a positive note for "44," Bush will remain in the headlines for the next four years as the wellspring of everything that goes wrong.

Or maybe it doesn't matter what will happen anymore - the press will either not cover the disasters or spin them as good news. Americans are now utterly detached from reality.

We deserve what we are about to get - and we're going to get it, all right.

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 8:14AM

Straight out of the Alinsky play book. Blame the other guy.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:25AM

Grz, be interesting to see how the press tries to ignore what's going to happen in the Middle East in the next few weeks, and you're correct, they will do their damnest to ignore it and, when they can no longer do so, they will find a way to blame anyone but Obamarx.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 10:21AM

They'll have no trouble whatsoever. They'll just keep doing what they're doing - I mean, if Pravda could ignore Stalin's famine and the killing of 100 million people, the Middle East will be child's play for the American propaganda machine; unlike the press in the Soviet Union, the American press supports tyranny.

And even when things get ugly here in America - and they will - they'll simply blame the Tea Party and advocate a liquidation program for Republicans, conservatives, libertarians and other enemies of The State - either you get your mind right or you go away.

Also, Obama the Beneficent will probably outlaw, by decree, talk radio, Fox News and stations like this, and then, well, you know the Democrat mantra:

See no evil, hear no evil, speak evil ONLY of Republicans.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:46AM

I guess Vladamir doesn't have to wait any longer. Obama now has the "flexibility".

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:50PM

obama owns the press -- the killing has and will continue here and in the Middle East. obama will release the blind muslim dog that planned the bombing of the World Trade Center and the muslim dog that killed 14 Americans at Ft.Hood will remain free. obama hates America and its people, yet these progressive fools keep kissing his boots. obama has one goal -- POWER. He will be praised by the world for destroying America that is how history record his legacy.

Stan Redmond| 11.7.12 @ 6:48PM

I don't think we will hear so much of Bush as we will "Republican obstructionism in the house"

C Smith | 11.7.12 @ 9:17AM

Gentlemen, America died last night! All that remains in coming months is for the
death rattle to fade into silence.

Houdini| 11.7.12 @ 10:32AM

Apparently free shit trumps freedom.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:48AM

Always has Houdini. Freedom is actually pretty easy to take away and democracy replaced with tyranny. The founding fathers knew this day would come. Freedom goes against human nature.

scotchieguy| 11.7.12 @ 10:51AM

America has always been the exception to the rule of the world that tyranny reigns supreme. Are you ready to join the rest of the world?

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 11:12AM

I agreed with you scotchie that America was the exception to the rule.....until last night. We WERE exceptional. No I'm not ready to give up my freedoms, the Constitution or American Exceptionalism. But the only thing I can think of right now is that we ride this thing all the way to the bottom and rebuild afterwards. Don't forget, Hillary's coming in 2016. This won't be over for a long time.

I'll probably never see another Republican president in my lifetime and I'm only 48 y.o.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 11:12AM

Or I should say conservative president. I don't give a damn about the party.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:51PM

"Freedom is always one Generation Away, from being lost."

Ronald Reagan.

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 3:16PM

After eight years of George W Bush you might be right!

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:30PM

vtwin, as usual you are an idiot and have forgotten the last 4 years. After eight years of Obama, freedom will be like a patient held in a medical coma for eight years, then smothered.

Seek| 11.7.12 @ 11:53AM

That's pretty much how the blacks see things. Free stuff, damn the consequences.

Pelleas| 11.7.12 @ 3:02PM

Damn YOU...!

FUCKING RACIST..!

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 5:15PM

Damn YOU...!

FUCKING HOMO..!

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 5:53PM

There are more whites on food stamps than blacks by a factor of almost two to one. A lot of them voted for Romney. Odd when reality doesn't match up with your own personal bias, huh?

AmericanWilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:26PM

No, the number of white food stamp recipients is roughly equal to that of blacks. The problem lies in the fact that blacks make up only 12% of the population.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:24AM

Wrong. Not even close to roughly equal. Two to one. But thanks for playing "See if you can remake reality to suit your political agenda!" Sorry it didn't work out this election. Maybe next time.

Obama!

Seek| 11.12.12 @ 3:18PM

Proportionately, black use of food stamps is far higher than that of whites. Proportions are everything in revealing tendencies.

Good luck on your continued treasure hunt for further evidence of "racism."

KyMouse| 11.8.12 @ 7:56AM

dmizzo, the question should be, what percentage of whites, and what percentage of blacks, are "on food stamps." Let us know what you find out.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:54PM

Yep -- More than 50% of Americans would rather be spoon fed and owned by the government than work to better themselves. Socialism embraces failure and dependency, discourages success and personal wealth. The USA will be the next EU.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:00PM

Or maybe more than 50% of Americans believe in equal rights for gays and lesbians. Maybe they believe going back to Clinton era top marginal tax rates doesn't equate to economic ragnarok. Maybe they believe in women's reproductive rights and equal pay. Maybe they think we should pull back from endless war and focus our efforts on rebuilding our infrastructure here at home. Maybe they think religion doesn't belong in government. Maybe they believe that global warming is real and a real threat to our economy and prosperity. Maybe they think scientists should decide what scientific theories are taught to our children, not religious zealots. Maybe they believe that American can build a better future together, not somehow scramble back into the gold-hued cocoon of fondly remember memories of a time that never was.

Maybe this election was about more than just one issue for a lot of people. If your party wants to be a part of the process moving forward, it might be good to start accepting that.

Nightwinger| 11.9.12 @ 11:20AM

Tersely cogent.

AmericanWilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:28PM

We will not be so lucky as the Europeans. I work with the Dutch. Their culture has a protestant work ethic that allows them to do reasonably well, even under socialism. The 50% does not have this work ethic. Our crash will be much harder and the whole world will suffer.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:02AM

Nope. Keep crying though. You still lost.

KyMouse| 11.8.12 @ 7:44AM

America lost, too, dmizzo. You lost, too. You just won't let yourself see it yet.

Cincy Jan| 11.8.12 @ 1:46PM

I agree, Willy. The Dutch and the Germans are exceptionally hard workers. Once upon a time, Americans were exceptionally smart workers. But this is no longer the case. Today, Americans assume a facility with tech gadgets indicates intelligence. We're no longer smart workers or hard workers. Maybe a little adversity will do us good. Forge us into tougher people, better able to stand on our own two feet.

Stan Redmond| 11.7.12 @ 6:51PM

Ain't that the truth. I will not be expanding my business here. Luckily I manufacture products with a worldwide customer base, not big, but world wide. I'm not wealthy enough to retire and like what I do. But I have bills to pay so I'll still keep part of my business owner. As for any employees I planned to add after this election, too bad. Since I don't get an obamaphone, obamabucks, obamacare, any of that free crap, I have to pay my own bills.

Von Mises Jr| 11.7.12 @ 11:17AM

We were sodomized before the suffocation. Perp knows how that feels.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:25AM

You lost an election. If that reminds you of being f*cked in the ass, I think you're doing it wrong.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 5:51PM

American survived last night, despite efforts to send it back to the stone age. I could not be happier to see lunatics and fanatics like you going through the five stages of grief. It shows me we're absolutely heading in the right direction - a direction that doesn't include you in the policitial process at all.

Stan Redmond| 11.7.12 @ 6:54PM

Does it not both you that more Americans now see massive government control over every aspect of life better than individual liberty? Do you, in your deepest of hearts, really believe the massive federal government controlling everything is a good thing?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 7:05PM

I don't believe that. Thankfully, that isn't what's happening. It bears as much connection to reality as Fox News' predictions for this election. None.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:39PM

How deluded can you be? You are in a coma if you think we have any freedom from government control. I a senior, cannot make my own health care or medical choices-I have to wait for Medicare to decide what I can and cannot get and pay for the privilege. That is just one example. I have felt the incremental loss of freedom all my life. I want to be free of government control, free from the FDA, USDA, HHS,unions,IRS, regulations,bureaucrats deciding every aspect of my life......ad nauseum (that is the way is tas spelled when I learned Latin, not taught anymore)

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:44PM

You want to be free of the government, but you want your medicare. You definitely need more pills if you think those two statements make sense when taken together. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and stop depending on the government to provide for you, grampa. Get a job and buy your own healthcare. I'm tired of takers like you expecting the rest of us to pay your way.

Also, you lost! America won! Hooray!

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 2:38AM

You proved you cannot read or understand. I DO NOT WANT Medicare. I do not depend on the government, I do not want Medicare telling me what I can get treated for. I am not allowed to refuse Medicare. I cannot, by the rules buy my own medical insurance. I paid my taxes, my SS, my medicare for more than 40 years. I made good money so I paid a lot. I don't like takers. You are really stupid because you say you are tired of takers but that is exactly opposite of what your hero BO and you have said I should do, pay the way for 47% of the pop on some form of welfare and who don't pay taxes. You criticized me and Romney for objecting to the takers. You said you earned 700k and would gladly pay extra taxes because you put your country first.
You are the contradictory, illogical, unreasonable idiot. Your statements don't go together, you miserable, contradictory, illogical, unreasonable, miseducated, bloviating idiot.

AmericanWilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:29PM

Oh golly, and it seems like only yesterday Obama was talking about his commitment to "all Americans". You mean it wasn't true? You mean you are just a party shill who doesn't really believe in democracy? Color me surprised.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:03AM

Are the voices telling you the things you're responding to? The affordable care act couldn't have come at a better time. We'll get you all the pills you so desperately need.

Aristocat| 11.7.12 @ 8:42PM

Everyone who voted Democrat yesterday is an accessory to murder of babies in the womb.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:11PM

Nope.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:49PM

Not an answer. Ultimately I believe abortion is murder. At the very least, it has nothing to do with womens "rights" or women's health. And I speak as a woman. This idea came from Sanger, a Malthusian eugenicist who started Planned Parenthood and wanted to limit/eliminate blacks, immigrants, and poor and any she deemed undesirable by this fiction of woman's health and rights. Her ideas and plans were used wholesale by the Nazis. You need an education. Your "discourse" used very loosely is lacking any substance

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:58PM

Nope.

AmericanWilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:31PM

Remember, they call it "reproductive rights". Even they cannot call it by its name. They have to use a life-affirming term to describe it because the thought of it makes them squirm.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:26AM

Nope! But keep going. You're THIS close to convincing nobody.

Obama won! Yay!

Seek| 11.12.12 @ 3:20PM

People like you make it hard for conservatives to win. Do you actually think that if all abortion were outlawed, it would end? Prohibition, for example, was supposed to end demon alcohol, once and for all. Well...did it?

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:17PM

It's god's intention that GOP lost.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:51PM

Drop it. You have no line to God nor belief. Constant repetition of stupidity does not constitute discourse or contribute anything of substance.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 11:01PM

He has as much a right to put words in god's mouth as the GOP does. Obama won. God's will. If only you'd prayed harder!

C. Vernon Crisler | 11.7.12 @ 9:44AM

Well, people kept voting FDR into office even though his policies did nothing to get us out of the Depression. Then as now we have a largely ignorant electorate who know nothing about our founding principles much less about economics.

I've been reading a biography of Mises, and he was one of the lone defenders of freedom during the days of post-WW1 Germany & Austria, where practically everyone else was guilty of Progressive, short-sited attitudes. This is the same situtation we are in today. The lesson we should derive from Mises is to keep on fighting for truth and not bow to political pressures or popular prejudices.

Need I remind anyone that Washington was in the field for many years and his army suffered greatly at Valley Forge. And yet in the end he prevailed. We are in our Valley Forge period, and some will drop out of the army for one reason or another -- the sunshine patriots -- but true patriots will fight on, as they always have, and as they always will.

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 10:07AM

Germany and Austria, you might want to bone up on American history.

C. Vernon Crisler | 11.7.12 @ 12:11PM

vtwin, you might want to bone up on intelligence.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:53PM

You vtwin need to "bone up" on American history. You clearly lack both education and intelligence.

TNcracker | 11.8.12 @ 12:26AM

And class.

Chef Schnauzer| 11.7.12 @ 10:22AM

Thank you for this suggestion that we are in the 'Valley Forge' period - that helps with hope. As sands through the hour glass.... This electoral swing hard left may have a proportional swing opposite. I do shake my head that the sexually deviant sodomites (2 - 4% of pop) can hold sway over so much of the society. So the nation chooses Dr.s murdering the individual choosing suicide, Dr.s murdering infants in the womb, and sodomite 'marriage' (yuk). The consequences could be painful. The government/union schools continue to teach to the lowest common belch and fart. Pray for the Lord's intervention and Grace.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:51AM

or His judgement....that's what I think is coming and quick.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:02PM

I'm not in valley forge. I'm at the victory party. I'm sure we've got some extra food - we can put together a plate for you if you're hungry? Need a scarf?

James Baker| 11.7.12 @ 7:22PM

Do not need it, I have skills and weapons for when that time comes.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 7:42PM

There are also stores and stuff. Might want to check those out.

A. C. Santore| 11.7.12 @ 10:40AM

No totalitarian government [I won't say "Marxist/Communist government" because that would exclude Hitler and Mussolini and others throughout History] has ever imposed itself on a country with a strong economy, strong civil rights [like a constitutional form of government], and a strong culture.

Clower and Piven described with brilliant clarity that to destroy an economy [meaning a strong capitalist system], one must first overload the system. This government is halfway there. "There's more I have to do" becomes clearer in this light.

Obama has several times clearly indicated that the U.S. Constitution gets in the way of his program. Once he slipped and actually said that he would prefer to just take government over and do it all himself. It's clear to me that that is his aim, not least for the reason that that was said off-teleprompter.

All of the attacks on our culture and religion - and they are myriad and also crystal clear - are working well. I don't have to list them.

"...a well-regulated militia is necessary to national security...." The Founding Fathers understood first-hand what that means. And it did not mean a "standing army."

As History has shown us, survival of a nation must be earned.

CrackerHound| 11.7.12 @ 10:55AM

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."
-- Saul Alinsky

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:04PM

Whew. It's a good thing we have a representative democracy, not a totalitarian government. Those sound bad. You know, just because people voted for someone you don't agree with doesn't mean the system is broken. It just means you lost an election. Don't be so sad, little guy.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 10:58PM

Actually, in this case it does mean the system is broken. And you are wrong we are not a representative democracy, we are a republic, at least we were intended that way. BO's power hunger has bypassed that and the checks on his power in many ways, especially his use of EO to legislate contrary to the Constitution.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 11:00PM

You're precious. His power hunger? "Many ways?" Sounds scary. The sky really is a different color in there, isn't it?

You lost. Oh, how you lost. The country is changing and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it. Must be scary for you.

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 6:24AM

What does it mean?
The BORG have taken over. There is no individuality. The BORG queen (Michelle) will determine every aspect of your life. Why not the BORG King - because it is mental midget who is the front man to get Satan's foot in the door.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:47AM

The borg are infesting the right, unless you haven't noticed.

When you see losing women, youth, hispanics and other demographically growing sectors as somehow due to the subterfuge of the Chicago boys, and not the staleness of the GOP, you need a pill.

This election was gettable and it was handed over, willingly.

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 8:50AM

Just wait until you see what happens to your withholding after Jan 1. Then come back and run your mouth.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 9:24AM

What, 3% to pay for things you and I voted for for decades?

Gladly.

My father taught me to take responsibility for my actions, and living in a country with a social safety net and complex programs is a reality that cannot be ignored.

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 11:02AM

If you voted for them - then you can pay for them.

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 11:11AM

Wait till you get you January wake up call. It is going to be a lot more than 3%. Do you have almost 250K for every person in you house in free assets? If you honestly think that this Administration is NOT going to come after every penny in your pocket then you have been smoking the cheap stuff.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:01AM

Right - all the Republicans had to do was regurgitate Democrat talking points.

In other words, a one party government.

Well, that's what America wants, I'll grant you that. There's no market for conservatisim in this country anymore; the only way the GOP has been able to win at all since Reagan has been by being Democrat Lite - or, in Bush's immortal phrasing (which no doubt came from the brain of Karl Rove), "Compassionate Conservatism." In other words, liberalism.

Oh well. Once liberal policies destroy every last vestige of America, conservatives will STILL be blamed.

Might as well stop grousing and get in line for my piece of the government pie. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

I'm sensing injustice over here!

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 9:27AM

Don't suggest there is no appetite for "conservatism" any longer. Not the conservatism that NEVER existed, but a conservatism that matches revenues to expenses and links outcomes to future spending is very much alive. Investment should be the mantra of the party.

Indiana and Missouri were lost either due to over-estimating one's impact or just sheer hubristic stupidity. I think the latter, but smarter Poli sci peeps can debate it for years.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 10:23AM

Right - in other words, conservatism that is liberalism.

Thanks for the lesson in liberal semantics. George Orwell would give you an "A" in bullshit, but an "F" in civics.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:06PM

Right. The party of religious zealotry, determined to tell everyone how to live their lives, is now afraid of someone stealing a page from their book. You don't have to worry. I don't care what ridiculous made-up deity you worship... if it keeps your party from being relevant, I'll buy you a few bibles myself.

Cincy Jan| 11.8.12 @ 1:52PM

dmizzo, do you spend all day taking pot shots at conservatives??? Do you not have a life? Gratuitous insults to us and denigration of God do little but demonstrate what a small person you are. Not impressive.

C.B.| 11.7.12 @ 6:30AM

I am still in shock. I am no fan of Bill O'Reilly, but he nailed it last night. He said we are no longer a nation that can roll up its sleeves and get the job done, we are a nation of "gimme something" mindless twits who don't understand that this great nation is eroding under their eyes. I pray that God will protect this country....

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 7:07AM

Apparently, the pendulum hasn't swung far enough. I wonder what it'll take.

JimH| 11.7.12 @ 7:52AM

I’m not a fan of Bill either, but he was spot on last night.
I know that despair is a sin, but we set out on this road when we ceased being a republic and became a democracy. Historically no democracy has survived the plebs realization that they could vote for themselves their neighbors wealth.

Albertus Magnus| 11.7.12 @ 8:29AM

There is an old adage that says "democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner." In a more practical setting, democracy means that a lot of people get to vote on how WE spend MY money. This election was decided by people who TAKE from others, who live off the hard work of other people, who are paid the dole to be poor, stay poor, and vote democrat. Democrat voters are bred as 'voting stock' by democrat politicians using taxpayer money in multi-generational poverty promotion programs. Corruption is the order of the day. Government is no longer for sale, it has been bought using taxpayer money. Freedom died today, to thunderous applause. Caesar has crossed the Rubicon.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.7.12 @ 9:15AM

Eventually, the wolves run out of sheep, and then the choice becomes much more contentious.

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 11:12AM

The seriousness of the national debt just doesn't occur to them.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:53PM

And then, everybody dies.

MaryTudor| 11.7.12 @ 1:03PM

Yes, but remember what happened to Caeser. We just have to be smarter than Brutus and Cassius--dead martyrs are useful, which is why killing a figurehead never works. (Look at JFK, a mediocre president who was made into a saint.) (So don't even bother call, Secret Service. I'm not that stupid.) Shattered idols, on the other hand, are very, very useful. It's time for the takers to find out what suffering really feels like (and it would serve them right if those with the financial resources moved to the Caymans or the Channel Islands and left them to rot. We'll see how long it takes for the desperate to turn on each other.)

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 8:13AM

I saw that - it is obvious from the results that Mr. O'Reilly was spot on - even if he is an arrogant butt hole.

Gerald| 11.7.12 @ 8:39AM

God has abandoned this country as this election has just confirmed. The party that booed God and cheers the murder of our babies has just been re-elected. God has left us to our own demise.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 8:47AM

Gerald could not agree more.

gene| 11.7.12 @ 9:32AM

God did not abandon this country.
WE ABANDONED Him.
In forty years we have murdered 50 million babies and then we ask Him to Bless us?

Stephie| 11.7.12 @ 11:49AM

This is all a part of God's plan and we have to trust in him. I hate what's happened but what can we do? I'm heart sick and haven't stopped weeping since I got up this morning.
All of this for, what?!

Seek| 11.7.12 @ 11:52AM

God doesn't win elections. People do. And we just didn't have enough of them on our side.

Billmon | 11.9.12 @ 9:17PM

God favors the heavy battalions -- Napoleon

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 12:23PM

No one is quite sure of the author but it certainly applies:

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

I agree that God NEVER removes himself from his people - the people turn a blind eye to HIS truth.

The flame of freedom has not gone out - Barack I - Emperior of the North American Union has just put a bucket over it.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:08PM

How is the party that laughed at the "rise of the oceans" doing? Oh, not so good?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:08PM

Wrong. We rolled up our sleeves and we got the job done: we reelected Obama. You keep praying to God. I'll put my faith in progress, science, reason and equality.

Appleby| 11.7.12 @ 6:30AM

I expect we will be at war by Christmas.

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 7:08AM

I expect you're right.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:49AM

With eachother inside the bagger battalion? Yes, absolutely.

With another country? Zero chance, if there ever was one other than in the conjurings of simpler minds.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:29AM

Do you seriously believe, now that Obamarx has been re-elected, that Israel is not going to bomb the hell out of Iran and we're not going to get involved? The only question will be on whose side we're on.

TerryJ2| 11.7.12 @ 10:42AM

@KennesawJack,
You may be right, however, I don't think Obamarx will get involved, I'm scared that Israel may consider going WMD's as a first strike. The lid will come fast if they do. Can't blame them.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 10:58AM

Then they get what they deserve for their hubris. We would be wise to begin severing ties with Likud and the Russian expats.

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 9:36AM

At war? You would like that, wouldn't you?

potkas7| 11.7.12 @ 6:31AM

For years I have wished that the citizens of this country would pick a clear direction and follow it. Last night they did, and it is not my preferred path.

We are today standing in the shadow of 1914, 1917, 1936 - take your pick - and the Clock of Destiny is counting down.

Alan| 11.7.12 @ 7:09AM

Where we are at is 1859.

potkas7| 11.7.12 @ 7:59AM

I won't disagree with that, but the problem is not just confined to our shores, its world-wide.

Albertus Magnus| 11.7.12 @ 8:31AM

My estimate is we are in 49BC.

potkas7| 11.7.12 @ 9:50AM

I might say 163 B.C - the period of the Gracchi Brothers. Their election to the Tribunate signaled the beginning of the slide into oblivion of the Roman Republic. Julius just added the full stop.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.7.12 @ 9:17AM

Maybe those Mayans were on to something with that calendar.

TerryJ2| 11.7.12 @ 10:45AM

If true, then we don't have to worry about this electoral outcome for very long.

TLP| 11.7.12 @ 2:55PM

Exactly.

John786| 11.7.12 @ 6:36AM

It obvious to those not navel gazing that the GOP has moved to the extremes. It can not hope to cobble a coalition at the extremes sufficient to win an election. The centrist republicans must now make a clear break from the extremist who will have us believe that Obama is a Muslim,climate change is not real, real rape etc. The endless demonisation of people especially Muslims has got you nowhere. a healthy democracy needs a good constructive opposition. Unfortunately the GOP is adrift in this department. The less educated you are the more likely you are to vote GOP bests sums up the current problem.

GobBluthe| 11.7.12 @ 7:12AM

Romney was the most moderate GOP candidate since 1976. The USA will now become a corrupt incompetent one party state. Minorities will simply not got for a GOP candidate regardless of how liberal they are. The GOP dies t have an ideology problem as much as it has a demographic problem.

Jack in Wi| 11.7.12 @ 8:13AM

He was no moderate on foreign policy. He was a died in wool warmonger until he moderated his position to a small degree in the lsst debate. there was litttle beween Romney and Obama on foreign policy but Romney seemed the more extreme and it cost him big time with young people, women and independents. If he got more of the Arab Christian and Muslim vote in this country he might have at least won the popular vote. As long as the Neoconservatives run Republican foreign policy their is little chance the Party will ever get out of the hole.

irish19| 11.7.12 @ 8:28AM

Well, at least you can console yourself with the knowledge that Israel may be destroyed, you anti-Semitic bastard.

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 8:51AM

Israel will not be destroyed. Getting the vapors over Jack will not change that fact. God fought for Israel and will again. Read Ezekial chapters 38 & 39.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:52AM

Zero chance. Zero.

Israel has a bigger problem with the caricature artist Bibi getting into bed with the Russian.

Watch closely, he may lose ground, and Obama "owes" him one. I would welcome it as Israelis need a break.

gene| 11.7.12 @ 9:38AM

Military educators do not study the 1967 War to learn any military tactics. Why? Because Israel won for no logical reason and the Military studies tactics and not miracles. There is great trouble ahead, but the Jews are still God's chosen people. They are back in their land in fulfillment of Biblical prophecies. They are even speaking Hebrew which is alive and not dead in fulfillment of Biblical prophecies. All who go against Israel will be crushed. And if we are on the wrong side, we will join them.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 8:49AM

Well just wait until O ushers in Shariah law.

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 9:37AM

Silly boy.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:19PM

Please link to one place in this country that has tried to implement shariah law. I can link to DOZENS where lunatics like you have tried to force christian doctrine on this country. News flash: not everyone who looks like you believes like you. This country is diverse. It is not a christian nation. And thank God for that.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:11PM

Thank who?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 8:34PM

Thank you. If your party's policies weren't so backwards and bigoted, they might have been able to do more damage to this great country. Luckily, a majority of Americans stepped up and said no.

Has to hurt, huh Jackie?

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 9:33AM

Extremism cost the Republicans the Indiana Senate seat of Richard Lugar, one of the great Senators of either party, in a state Romney carried.

Stephie| 11.7.12 @ 11:52AM

Romney was extreme? Are you fucking kidding me? Who the hell do you consider a moderate? obama?

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 2:26PM

Yes, Obama is a moderate.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 7:00PM

Yes. Obama is a moderate.

Duh.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 11:07PM

The less educated will always vote for liberal Dems. And yes, even maybe esp, harvard grads are less educated.

Seek| 11.12.12 @ 3:25PM

Oh, really? Since when are rednecks among the better educated? As for blacks, they vote as a tribe, a race, not as "liberals." White liberals pander to blacks, but blacks don't vote on principle, save for one: blackness.

John786| 11.7.12 @ 6:38AM

Oh can I give a cheer to Nate Silver. Mr Prediction.

jothepro| 11.7.12 @ 7:16AM

You John are a dickhead. A pompous dickhead...

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 8:52AM

Silver simply got lucky. There was no evidence to call anything in this election.

vtwin| 11.7.12 @ 9:37AM

Mathematics.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 11:42AM

Keep telling yourself that, Quartermaster. That's why the election results hit you in the face without you expecting it. Just keep ignoring reality.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:20PM

What's the weather like in Unreality? We're having some storms here.

Hardcard| 11.7.12 @ 6:46AM

This country is finished ,a disgrace FU 786

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:21PM

No, this country is just getting started. It's people like you who are finished - the world is passing you by.

Alej| 11.7.12 @ 6:49AM

Secession.

NOW.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:20AM

Come on. It'll never happen.

We'll go to the guillotines like placid little lambs.

In fact, we already have.

TerryJ2| 11.7.12 @ 10:56AM

So true, any fighting will be between who is last in line, hoping the the guy pulling the lever will be to tired to whack us today.

Mriordon| 11.7.12 @ 7:45AM

You took my post.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:53AM

Buh bye.

The country is 2/3 consumption. Grow up.

No biz EVER hired a person without a market or demand connected to it.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 11:43AM

Go for it, Alej. I'd love to see you try ... and be tried.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:22PM

And what will the Southern states do when the federal government isn't there to give them their handouts? You know, the overwhelmingly Confederate states that take in WAY more per year in Federal aid than they pay in tax. Your state, most likely. It's going to be hard to fight your new civil war when it's the blue states who you expect to foot your bill.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 7:02PM

Fine and dandy, Alej.

Secede your ass on out of here.

And DO let the door hit your ass on the way out.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 6:54AM

Look at the Mr. and Mrs. faces on their victory podium when their win was annouced. Where is the look of joy? These are not the faces of 2 people who know they won without cheating. In this first link, she has her head down as if in shame and he's looks like he's wearing a smirk in both photos. These are photos from the NYT and MSN.

Scroll through a few of the slides on the MSN site. Look at the joy on the faces of the democrats in the crowd who are not aware of the voter fraud. THAT is the look of real joy; not the first couple's pictures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11......html?_r=0

http://www.msn.com/?ocid=iehp

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:25PM

Nope. You lost, but American won.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 7:07PM

You know, BackToBasics, there's a difference between being a "mentalist" and a "mental case."

Talk about the Escher "angels/devils phenomenon" on steroids.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 9:33PM

Just quit the liberal name calling! I do not care if liberals don't like what I say. My observations are based on common sense. The election was stolen and he knows it!

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:36PM

Nope. You're just starting to realize there is a very large and very vocal majority in this country that doesn't agree with your brand of nonsense. And I am loving every second of it. Keep posting! Please!

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 9:56PM

I have been aware of demographic changes brought about by poor policies and have been outspoken against the destructive policies of things like illegal immigration way before it was popular on the Republican side.

I see the danger as I understand the evil that human nature is capable of without good constraints and good laws. You and most other liberals do not see the danger.

So, of course I will keep posting since I know it does some good on our side. I know it falls on deafs ears with liberals; that's nothing new.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:00PM

Um, what laws have changed? What freedoms have we lost? You've been crying out against minorities existing and voting? Oh, I get it. This is all just you compensating for fear of a black man. I'll let you work that stuff out in private then... Kind of embarrassing you're doing it here.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 11:11PM

There's the liberal accusations again. That's all you are capable of. I wanted Herman Cain to get the nomination and defended him here more often than most. See my post below in this thread at 9:09 AM about him long before you wrote your latest accusation at 10:00 PM.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 11:18PM

The pizza man as our president? That's even funnier!!! You're a riot, Basics. Keep 'em coming.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 11:17PM

BO is NOT a "black man". He is a 1/2 white man. The other part is in question. He was raised white by a communist sympathizer grandfather, whose best friend, a black card carrying communist, trained him in Marxism and communism for over 10 years. His mother was anti-american. I don't fear a black man, I fear a confused, arrogant, power hungry lying, ignorant, immoral, poorly educated, marxist, incompetent setting the tone for the country.
You are embarrassing, misstating and spinning everything......

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 11:19PM

You truly are 32 flavors of nuts. I'm enjoying every second! Keep the crazy train chugging along, Hands!

So MAD the president won! SO MAD! And yet there's literally not a single thing you can do, except direct your fury at the internets. Hahahahahahahahahahaha...

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 11:53PM

Liberals are at their core deeply envious people. What they are envious of when comparing themselves to others makes them very insecure and they try to cover their insecurity by lashing out at others. Obam does this too. It is why you vote for him. It is a destructive path and the entire country is going to reap a lot of hardship, economic chaos and destruction because of liberal ideas that have been implemented to try to "get rid of perceived and actual inequities." Yet I think liberals like destruction because it is the only way they can actually and literally in many cases "level" the playing field and all your comments are proving my point.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:05AM

I guarantee I'm richer than you, younger than you, smarter than you, taller than you, and I still voted Democrat. The world is changing, gramps. Ask whoever helped you get on the internet to vet your posts from now on, so you don't embarrass yourself.

BackToBasics| 11.8.12 @ 10:05AM

Your claims are unfounded as we do not know each other, so why write them in an attempt at a put-down? You only show immaturity and arrogance in doing so. If you claim you are smarter than I am then the burden is on you to prove it by defending liberal policies instead of mudslinging and name calling. Again, your insults of me and other conservatives prove that my post above regarding liberals having much envy and insecurity is correct. Insults and mudslinging will not convince anyone here of your high level of intelligence. Discussions about liberal policy effectiveness verus conservative policies and political arguments will show all of us how smart you really are. Even if we disagree we can respect someone who is intellectually honest and recognize his gifts. Otherwise you've got nothing.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 3:02AM

Prove you are rich, that you earned it through working, not inherited it or scammed it.
Young I'll believe, because you have little or no education, typical of public schools and your arrogance comes from the stupidity of the young.
Taller I don't buy. For some reason you think tall means something special so you assert it, wealth and youth like racists used to say "free white and 21" to justify and support their alleged superiority.
You are a liar. You have so little knowledge or intelligence and self esteem you resort to ad hominems, irrelevancies and falsities to justify your pathetic position and poor opinions. Your gloating is misplaced and you are a (em)bareass(ment) to yourself and everything you purport to be a spokesperson for.
Apparently, you are just an idiot troll, so we should stop feeding you by trying to get you to respond relevantly and cogently to our well expressed opinions.

Nightwinger| 11.9.12 @ 11:33AM

Obama's mother was a PhD in Anthropology and fluent in FIVE languages. In fact, she WORKED FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT as a translator for the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta.

It's sad she didn't live to see her son become President.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 3:07AM

Who told you that? BO? When did she get all that education? When she got pregnant at 16? While she was in Indonesia married to Soetero? When she was 15 and posing nude for Frank Marshall Davis a card carrying communist and her daddy's best friend (and later her son's 10 year mentor)?

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 10:39PM

The NYT already removed their picture from this link. They already realized it wasn't a flattering picture of the first couple!

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:46PM

Quick, reverse the election! Oh, wait, you mean what BackToBasics says doesn't matter to anyone anywhere? Okay, carry on as before.

BackToBasics| 11.8.12 @ 12:53AM

The liberal commenter mentions in an above post as not wanting a "pizza man" for president when he mocked Herman Cain. So much for liberal egalitarianism!

Cain did software and electrical engineering development for years with the Navy. He later was a successful business executive when he ran Pizza Hut. He is also an excellent public speaker, better and a happier than Obam. He has a healing touch. Herman Cain is a good man. It would have been great to see him as the Republican candidate. As I mentioned below, I think he would have won against Obam. I have mentioned in the past when he was in the primaries that, win or lose, he would have been a great and uplifting role model for any young person but I think especially so for young people of color to be able to look up to!

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:08AM

Yet his pizza still sucks. He would've been just as terrible a president. Luckily we live in a world where that would never happen, no matter how many times the GOP wants to trot out their idiot circus. Young people of color have plenty of intelligent, accomplished, reasonable people to look up to. They don't need an intellectually stunted pizza slinger who thinks restricting every bill to 2 pages isn't a laugh line.

Btw, not sure if you heard: Obama and America won! You lost! Hooray!

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.12 @ 6:57AM

Muhamned 786,
I'm not going to belittle Muslims...but if one of you has a gun in youre hand, I will shoot quicker and with a head-shot, ending the conversation.
See,
I am sick and tired of arguing with certifiable maniacs. I'm going to give you a gift now to sorta round out my answer. www.americaalonesaidno.com
you can download it free :

John786| 11.7.12 @ 7:19AM

Ken,
Great to hear from you. See, its not all bad, you're still commenting. Your spleen still holding up and rapture is again delayed. I hate that word: Schadenfreude. The American people have chosen wisely: wisdom in crowds, Ken. Peace.

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 8:54AM

If you wish to believe idiocy is wisdom, who am I to disuade from your idiocy? This election was a Turkey voting for Thanksgiving or a hog for Country Ham.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:26PM

I agree with you, but it's hard when their panic is so damn entertaining. "IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! WE RE-ELECTED SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T DESTROY THE COUNTRY LAST TIME. AHHHHHHHH!"

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.12 @ 7:22AM

www.texassaidno.com

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 8:55AM

Ken (Old Texican),

I just clicked on your site, and the cover on your book scared the B-Jesus out of me. That cover is scary. SCARY! Have you ever thought that you may be a little paranoid?

TerryJ2| 11.7.12 @ 11:10AM

The cover does grab your attention, paranoid? no.
I served in the Marine Corps in the middle east, although long before 9/11. I can tell you first hand how gruesome some of the religion of peace can be, not all but most.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:28PM

And it's only outpaced by how gruesome some of religion can be. See the last few thousand years of every religion on the face of the earth.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 11:29PM

Again, you are ignorant. "Some" does not equal "every". There is no comparison. Islam was started and spread by violence-over 500 years of war (jihad), subjecting millions to death or conversion, including over 3000 of US citizens at the beginning of our republic. Don't even try to bring up the crusades as "gruesome" or the Inquisition. There is no comparison in scope or nature to the violence of the total history of Islam nor its totalitarianism. Central to its theology is death to all who are not Muslim. NO other religion, especially not Judaism or Christianity, is so monolithic or violent or totalitarian as is Islam.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:10AM

You need to read a book. More people have been murdered in the name of Christianity than any other religion on the planet. It's not even close.

Also, Obama won! You lost! Go pray about it!

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 3:27AM

You are clueless about religion and history and Christianity. That is a certifiable untruth, except if you are saying that Hitler killed in the name of christianity. "In the name of" does not mean the perpetrators were Christians in any sense of the word. Hitler did claim christianity falsely. However, again, violence and murder is not only NOT a central tenet of Christianity, it is expressly a sin.
I have studied world religions, and read about 5 books a week for the last 50 years. Islam was spread by violence and murder and forced conversion. Christianity was never spread by violence by Christians. Violence and murder was done against them and martyrdom impressed and spread the Word of God, as did missionaries. Christianity spread for over 500 years, peacefully, before the psychotic pedophile Mohammed declared jihad against Christians and Jews. Millions were murdered by Muslims, including 2000 plus american sailors in the early 1800's. (where do you think the "shores of Tripoli" line came from ?)

sane person| 11.7.12 @ 7:05AM

Funny, I noted on this site that Nate Silver had given extremely good odds of an Obama victory (over 90%) and predicted 306 EC votes and the people on this site responded that Silver was flawed.

Well, if anything, he understated the win f Obama gets Fl, which looks likely.

What do you say now?

John786| 11.7.12 @ 7:26AM

I think it gets worse. Come 2016 we have Hilary. Who the hell can beat her. No one. The republicans best hope now lies in 2024! Ouch! That should be sufficient time in the wilderness for the GOP crackpots to go extinct.

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 8:50AM

Nate Silver is the man.

He political analyses are dead accurate.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:55AM

Truth hurts, and this young man has validated his algorithms for all the world to see. NYT better pay up or else he'll be picked up by the Red Sox.....

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 8:58AM

I'm looking forward to Hillary's presidency. She and Bill will make a super-powerful team. What brains! It will be a time of prosperity for the nation.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 11:33PM

you want the US to be subservient to the UN? That is HilBill's plan. Or are you not paying attention to what has been going on with the UN and their ban on small arms that she is trying to get the US to sign on to? Not to mention BO's proclaimed intention to subject our government to the UN?

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 7:10AM

Can we finally agree that the Republican Party is less than zero - that it can't fight its way out of a wet paper bag - that it doesn't deserve one more minute of our time nor one more dollar of our money - that the lesser of evils is a bogus argument?

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 8:56AM

No, it needs a complete purge of any elements that spend a nanosecond on anything other than security and demand creation.

Joellen| 11.7.12 @ 7:15AM

The author brings up Aikin and Murdock, AGAIN, but doesnt bring up Menedez (NJ) who was accussed of using prostitutes and not paying them, but wins anyway. Or Jackson Jr., who is dealing with mental health problems and under investigation for allege criminal activity, but he wins his election. Or a Warran, who lies about her heritage, her law license is questionable, yet she beats a moderate sitting Rep. Allen West, who is a HERO loses to a punk, and yet we are to believe that it's the conservatives who have to "change" its stripes. Here's the real difference between the two parties Mr. McCain, the dem's protect their own and the Rep's eat their own and you and the others who continued to beat up on Aikin and Mourdock instead of acknowledging that they have good values, that they stood for America, well blame yourselves for their defeat. I know I blame you! If anything, why dont you learn from your mistakes.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 8:52AM

Agreed Joellen. No matter how bad the Dems behave they always get a pass.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 9:16AM

They don't cling to the KJV like it was an appendage.

Hypocrites were and are Jesus' targets, and the GOP has them writ large. The dems already are the mayors of Gommorah. Americans, even the dastardly atheists can smell a rat when baggers and equivocators like Willard enter the room.

The charlatan Graham will have a lasting nail in his coffin choosing to bring Mormons into the fold just to soothe his ancient hatred for all things ebony.
For me, his disrobing his true nature just before death will be the lasting reward of this cycle. His idiot son can spend the next several years putting the genie back in the bottle.

Tom Kyba| 11.7.12 @ 10:20AM

Thank you for proving my point.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:29PM

Possibly because the republicans behave so much worse.

Tom Kyba| 11.7.12 @ 10:19AM

You've hit the nail on the head. The U.S. is now fully dominated by liberal culture and its purveyors in the MSM and entertainment industries. Despite inroads by conservative radio and sites like these, the MSM still rules the airwaves. John786 and the troll brigade are obviously feeling their oats now, but their smirking explanations demonstrate that they have no real clue either as to the reasons for yesterday's results. Picture Katie Couric's demeanor when interviewing Sarah Palin compared to Michelle Obama and extrapolate outward. The Dems can parade out endless tax cheaters and scam artists and not a peep from our watchdogs, but one rinky-dink macaca comment and guess where the attention goes. Despite smarmy attempts by the troll legions to downplay this, they know it as well. Since the Chrissie Matthews' of the world are going to be even more emboldened now, I see no way to counter this effect. Good luck America, you are now a social democracy. Get ready for at least 4 more years of misgovernance which will continue to be blamed on others. We may all now bow to China, the new single superpower.

John786| 11.7.12 @ 4:05PM

Tiny Tim,
You should have walked this election. You were fighting a man with both his hands & legs tied behind his back:That's how p*** poor the economy was. You were destroyed- annihilated by the electoral college. But instead of undergoing serious introspection you blame everybody else. You have painted yourselves into a tight lonely corner. America has moved on. Its time you grew a brain and ditched the tea party bullshit. And joined the real world were we all work together to solve common problems. But no you just continue on your merry path demonising people & an addiction to war mongering. America is screing out for an effective right of centre party. The GOP as it currently stands is not fit for purpose. Tea party armegedon cometh.

Ralph Novy| 11.10.12 @ 2:36AM

John:

Agree with SOME of what you've written, but certainly not that "America is screaming out for an effective right-of-centre party."

Some Americans are, yes, but I think most Americans are yearning for a considerably more "left of center" administration with regard to a number of issues -- the "drug war" and limiting domestic warrantless surveillance, for example.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:18AM

Turn those frowns upside down, folks!

Emmett Tyrrell declared the death of liberalism, like, MONTHS ago.

So the re-election of Obama is really Americans turning their backs on the welfare state, entitlement programs and cultural narcissism, and a return to the rugged individualism that made this country great.

Right, Emmett? No doubt you were thrilled with last night's results because, somehow, in your world, Obama's victory proves your hypothesis. I can't WAIT to see you spin THIS.

I'm guessing your book, titled, I believe, "The Death of Liberalism," is now on remainder shelves everywhere.

As is America itself.

Nice work, Emmett and all you blowhards who have refused to see the extent of the rot in this country so that you can pick up lucre playing to the home-field crowd and preaching to the choir with your hallelujah choruses going on and on and on about how the American spirit lives and how this is really a conservative country.

You idiots living in your establishment cocoons are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Look on the bright side: had Romney won, he wouldn't have done a hell of a lot to change the trajectory of this country.

Al Adab| 11.7.12 @ 8:37AM

Liberalism has become tyranny and a failing economy with high unemployment, high taxes and massive debt the new norm. We no longer believe the future will be better and we have sold our birthright of freedom for a bowl of government pottage. As dependents on the charity (albeit forced) of others for our well being we have become the slaves of our masters. The government gives and takes away, blessed be the name of the government. Ave Ceasar!

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 9:20AM

Maybe we will spend a little time working on the true nature of the economy - demand.
Government is smaller in nearly every sector. Taxes are also lower.

HC keeps on taking a larger share of our GDP, and we are not getting any younger as a population. Yet the GOP continues to pander to angry white men and blue hairs. Both diminishing consumers.

Dumb.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:27AM

That's right, demand side economics! Let's hear it for BULLSHIT!

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:49AM

Come on, Canadian fool:

Tell me why we don't just raise minimum wage to $100 an hour, and mandate that every salaried employee make a minimum of $100,000 a year.

Wouldn't that make demand go through the roof? According to your benighted economic theory, woudn't that make demand go through the roof?

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:05AM

Yes it would versus any modern supply side evidence. RR used the magic bullet one time. The GOP has to conjure up another, and it ain't supply-side. There's only one side left that has a chance.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:25PM

"Taxes are also lower"? Yeah DA, thanks to Reagan and W, but that will all be ending 1/1/13 thanks to Barry [oh and also remember what the SCOTUS called his Welfarecare]!!!!!!

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:26AM

But we do believe the future will be better, Al Adab - hence endless quantitative easing! There's no debt problem that printing more money can't solve!

Don't you know that government is a bottomless pit of ever burgeoning largess?

I mean, let's make minimum wage $100 an hour! That'll solve poverty! Let's make a law that no price can be higher than any buyer wants to pay! Let's make a law that every American has a right to every single thing they want! Who cares? It's only money, and, hello, we can PRINT that!

I LOVE liberalism! It's SO LIBERATING! I'm gonna go out and buy a Mercedes with monopoly money! It's my RIGHT, dammit!

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:28AM

And, per the economically ignorant Canadian fool above, if I DEMAND a Mercedes, voila! One ought to be produced for me out of thin air! Yeah, baby!

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:10AM

Ok Grz, what's your plan? Supply-side redux in 2002 failed - and failed badly. RR had one arrow in the quiver, and it worked, but just to a point before deficit spending and a market bubble burst the momentum in time for Slick Willie to slither in.
What's in your bag o' tricks this time?

If you examine the last 100 years of supply side stimulus, each ended with a market meltdown and a parting of the income disparity curve. If you examine middle-class supporting regimes, you had modest extended growth and a plateauing of income disparity curves - aka health of the nation.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 12:08PM

My plan? FREE MARKETS.

So you advocate rasing minimum wage to $100 an hour and minimum salaries to $100,000, right? That would increase demand, wouldn't it?

Earth to moron: You can have all the demand for goods that people can imagine - but until somebody makes that crap, you aren't going to have it. And you have to have CAPITAL to invest in order to build the factors of production.

After all, there was demand in the Soviet Union for bread but there was no bread. Why? The USSR was possessed of the largest single arable tract of land on earth. And yet there was no bread.

There was no bread because of price controls - if a maker of a product has no capital, and he's subject to price controls, he has to spend more money making his product than the price will yield. Ipso facto, he'll stop making the product.

No doubt you sell your labor at a loss, right? You work for free. Or are you living 100% the Candian government?

It isn't supply side economics that have destroyed us, it's that nobody will stop the metastasizing of government; now even minor cuts to the INCREASES of government spending are considered draconian "slashing" of the Gravy Train. A gravy train that borrows $188 million an hour, every hour, every day of the year. Think that's going to go down in the next 4 years?

But why am I wasting my breath? You know nothing of what you are talking about. You are a zealot, and faith means more than reality to you.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:30PM

I don't think you know what the word "tyranny" means. Please look it up.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:30PM

Here's a hint: it doesn't mean people voting for the other guy.

steponbugs| 11.7.12 @ 7:22AM

You've perfectly summarized my mood this morning. Can't wait for the food riots to begin next summer...

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:32AM

But the food riots will be portrayed by the press as evil Tea Party machinations.

No, Americans will, for the most part, stand byand applaud gleefully the collapse of this country; if they become victims of the Lord-of-the-Flies mentality that will inevitably descend, they'll always have Rachel Maddow and Jon Stewart and Bill Maher on hand to tell them that we just need to liquidate more conservatives and THEN we'll have utopia. "Who you gonna believe? The liberal chattering classes or your lying eyes?"

Alan| 11.7.12 @ 7:54AM

Your dead on with this post.

JilliBrown| 11.7.12 @ 9:01AM

What planet do you live on?

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:35AM

Earth.

What solar system do you hail from, and what rabbit hole to I go through to get there?

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 9:44AM

Never mind. I know what solar system you're from: LIBERALVILLE, where up is down, good is bad, ignorance is wisdom, hate is love and all of Obama's broken promises - you DO remember those, don't you? - are George Bush's fault. No, you live on a planet where Obama is a good and decent man. I live in something called REALITY.

Tell us, JilliBrown, which government programs are propping up your lifestyle? And list them alphabetically, please.

Or are you a liberal cheerleader because you're a young product of our sterling education system that teaches that JilliBrown's greed for other people's money is "compassion," but an entrepreneur's desire to keep the fruits of his own labor is "greed?"

What is YOUR fair share, JillBrown? Huh?

MaryTudor| 11.7.12 @ 1:11PM

I'm guessing Jill is like Julie from the flash video--using government because she can't find a husband and doesn't want to work for a living.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 1:43PM

Noe thing is for sure - she isn't paying her fair share, and as a newly-minted liberal, I'm going to make damn sure that every one of these rich bastards who voted for Obama - and I define rich as anyone making more than $50k - pays their fair share. EVERY ONE of them.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 1:43PM

That should have read, "One thing is for sure."

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:32PM

I voted for Obama. I also made over $700,000 last year. I'm willing to pay more in tax because I put my country first. So what were you saying about fair share again?

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 3:07AM

I am a senior. BO stole my retirement with his illegal bailout of GM, his voiding of all nonunion jobs and pensions and his illegal voiding of the senior bondholders which in all bankruptcies except this one that he illegally engineered, have priority.
Congrats on your income. You are "willing" to pay more? But only if you are made to, right? You could donate to the deficit if you really think paying more "put(s) your country first"
You if you earned it, should get to keep it or shove it down the black hole of the BO deficit if you choose. No one should be forced to pay more taxes in the name of "fairness". It is not fair, nor even constitutional to tax wages, only profits. But if wages are taxed , then everybody should pay the same %, excepting basic living expenses which should give no income tax to the 47% who now pay no taxes because their incomes are less than $10,000 per household member.
We need reform not bogus claims of fairness and class warfare. It isn't fair that 1% pays more in total than the other 99%. It wasn't fair that I had to hire 5 incompetent and/or drunk union guys before I could hire one to get the job done and pay $40 in benefits (nontaxable)each hr the bums sat around drunk on the job?
So what were you saying about fair share again?

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 3:44AM

Oh my gosh, he STOLE your retirement? Did you tell the police? How is he still walking around free? Why, that would only make sense if your claim had no basis in reality and was merely the delusional ravings of a syphilitic mind. I thought conservatives were supposed to be self-reliant. Maybe you haven't earned your retirement? Maybe you should spend less time making wild accusations and complaining about how the world owes you things You're sounding like one of those bums on the dole. Have a little self-respect, granny. You're embarrassing the grand kids.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 3:38AM

I am self reliant. I earned and saved. Ad homimen comments are not a valid or relevant response. Again, BO illegally wiped out the bondholders in the GM bankruptcy. If you knew anything you would know that. You would know he wiped out the pensions of all non union workers in the GM enterprise. He eliminated all non union jobs over 40k of them. I had a lot of my retirement funds in GM senior bonds. Supposed to be safe, but BO made wiping out bondholders in favor of union pensions a requirement of the bankruptcy, in violation of bankruptcy rules.
You are an illogical idiot.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.12 @ 7:42AM

Heh, Obama might NEED his 200,000 brownshirts.
Last night a( Texas) friend of mine just threw up his hands:
"So who do I shoot exclaimed first" he exclaimed

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 8:39AM

Same old garbage from the tinfoil hat Texas Ranger.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:33PM

Himself. Do us all a favor.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 7:43AM

America Won! The Middle Class Won! The Constitution Won! Gay Rights Won! BIG MONEY lost! You can't buy an election, and that's good news for America.
For all those who are sad, I have to say Romney gave a classy concession speech. As the last political thing he does, it's a good way to end after a loss to President Barack Obama.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 7:50AM

Now they'll raise the limit on your EBT card! Woo hoo!

Joellen| 11.7.12 @ 8:03AM

The unborn, infirm & elderly lost; the American taxpayer lost, the mom&pop; small businessess lost; our Military lost; non union workers lost; the family unit lost; the Catholic Church & in the near future all christian/judeo institiutions lose; America is lost for now.

JilliBrown| 11.7.12 @ 9:00AM

Oh my god...this post is hilarious!!!! Oh the melodrama...well done!

James Baker| 11.7.12 @ 9:36AM

Really? I had several friends in the military who sent me messages last night wishing they would not wake up in the morning when the news the president had been reelected was released.

Joellen| 11.7.12 @ 9:52AM

Well you got that partially right Jilli - we are well done - for now. As for you finding this hilarious - well you cant fix stupid!

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:36PM

You can, actually. It's called education. It comes from books that aren't Bibles.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 11:43PM

I have yet to find a textbook that is accurate. Education sucks bilgewater and has ever since Dewey (communist) changed its nature and put government in charge. It has been downhill ever since and the more the feds interfere and the unions keep bad teachers in play and refuse merit pay and limit teachers, the worse education has become. You are a prime example of the poverty of the educational system of the last century.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:11AM

You're against education? ahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahajahahahaha. Yeah, the GOP is really setting themselves up for the future. You are so precious I could pinch your cheeks.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 3:49AM

Again you miss the point. Not against education, just against governmental propaganda, inaccurate textbooks and marxists "educators". Touch me and you die, you ignorant, condescending fool. You prime example of the failure of public school education.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:35PM

I sincerely hope you're right about the Catholic church and christian institutions losing. Nothing would help this country more than the complete removal of religion from government. Worship whoever you want in private. Stop trying to tell others they have to believe the same iron age nonsense you do. Religious extremism is going to destroy this country, and only education, science and reason can save us. I sincerely hope "your America" is lost. It sounds like a terrible place to live for those who dare to hold different beliefs.

handsoff| 11.7.12 @ 11:55PM

It was the only place for people of different beliefs before the stupidity of believing the ever changing science cult made it impossible for diversity.
You need an education in the founding of this country. Read Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison who insisted that religion and morals and religious education were necessary for the citizens to maintain a free society. In God We Trust. We hold these truths to be self evident....We are endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights.... There are numerous references to God in our Constitution and the writings in support of it. Congress opens with prayer, it is on our currency In God we trust. That is not religion and does not need to be removed from government. The only religious extremism in this country is Islam and will destroy this country if we let it.
You are trying to tell everyone they have to believe your version of religion (science, stepford education, and your false version of reason). You are extreme. The Founding Fathers wanted religion, freedom of, for all, not freedom FROM religion.
You are the one who believes "iron age" nonsense.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:14AM

If you think science is a religion, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. You shouldn't converse with people. You are a joke, except the proper response is to cry, not laugh. That is literally the dumbest thing you could say, and sadder still, you're too ignorant and backwards to even understand how unhinged from reality you are. You should go take your book of iron age fables and dig yourself under a nice, warm rock. You believe in Santa. It's tough to have an adult conversation with someone who believes as a child does. Grow up and get with the real world.

Also, OBAMA WON! GOD'S WILL! WOO!

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 3:35AM

You shouldn't converse with people. You are ignorant, inaccurate. I actually have an education which included what passes for science. And yes, many so-called scientists hold to their "science" more fervently, more religiously and with less understanding than what you would classify as religion. You believe in science. That is your religion. You attack others religion because you do not believe in anything but science. You are illogical. Again, you assume too much and make a donkey's rear end out of yourself. Since you obviously don't believe in God (except the god of science), how can you claim BO's "win" is God's will?

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 3:50AM

Like I said, you have literally no idea what you're talking about. Science is reality. Religion is fantasy. It's a story made up by hucksters to control weak-minded fools like you and steal your money. You built your life around the tooth fairy. Pretty pathetic. But if believing another world awaits helps you feel better about your sad life here, god with "god."

Keep calling science a religion though. It's a handy way for thinking people to separate the morons from those who might actually contribute something to the advancement of mankind. Hard to contribute when you can't tell fantasy from reality.

Oh, speaking of reality: Obama won! God's will! He told me!

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 3:55AM

Science is reality? Which scientific philosophy are you talking about? String theory? Big Bang? The everchanging science of evolution? Physics, biology, botany, microbiology, quantum mechanics, wave theory among the myriad, everchanging theories? Or are you talking Marxism, communism, socialism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Christianity?
What advancement of mankind are you referring to? What atheist contributed anything to the advancement of mankind? Which "scientist"? How do you define science?
Where are morals in all this? Are morals fantasy? Did not the Dec of Ind and the Constitution establish rights endowed by the Creator? Is not our national motto In God we Trust? How is God a fantasy and not reality?
How is science not a religion, if it is the explanation for our existence and the basis upon which we rely for guidance? Do you have a moral code? What is it and where did it come from and why is your belief system reality and those who believe in God of Christianity living in fantasy?
You are intellectually and philosophically ignorant. You contribute nothing to mankind because you have not a clue what anything means.

Nightwinger| 11.9.12 @ 11:58AM

You are quite wrong. There is not one word about "god" in the Constitution....not ONE.
It is a ferociously SECULAR document, probably by intention.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 4:08AM

The constitution is the practical implementation of the principles of the Dec of Independence. God and Creator and religion are common threads in the founding documents, writings and intentions. Madison, the author of the Constitution, and the 1st amendment , wrote about the individual human person and his relationship to God. Religious belief and devotion are not anthropological curiosities or historical relics, but are basic to the human experience-naturalto us in the exercise of our most human faculties, those of the mind. Madison speaks of religious conscience as an "unalienable right".
"It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to him. This duty is precendent, both in order of time and in degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society."

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 8:13AM

Purpie
Congratulations.

Now what will Obama do to reduce the deficit, reduce unemployemnt in the general population to 5%, and reduce the unemployment among blacks from 15%?

What will he do about Iran?

Will he finally tell the truth about BenghaziGate?

Louis Jenkins| 11.7.12 @ 8:31AM

CJW:

You left out Fast and Furious.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 9:52AM

Ditto to you too. Why don't you love America?

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 9:59AM

Louis
A dead border agent and four dead Americans in Libya, all attributed to Obama, are not as importatn as the promise of free contraceptives, and looking presidential with Christie.
As for the "auto bailout," more UAW members will lose their jobs at GM. Ford is the only well run UAW automaker. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and the rest are all non union, and not part of the so called bailout. It was a bribe to the UAW members in Ohio, and it worked.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 10:08AM

These people as well as the dumbed down youth deserve to be unemployed for voting for obama.

irish19| 11.7.12 @ 8:34AM

Nothing
Nothing
No

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 9:51AM

Thank you ... oh I will bask in the glow for quite a while.

Now as for what will he do - why don't you ask Rush, Sean and Billo-the-Clown what to do - that's who you really follow isn't it?
They are not good for the country, just for ginning up their own ratings and you fall for their crap - it's written all over your reply. Sadly, YOU are not for America. And it's killing the Republican Party - but keep it up.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 10:02AM

Purpie

You need to follow Obama and reach across the aisle. It appears you are unable to answer the question, so I will ask again.

Now, Sean and Rush are not the president.

O is the president. Tell us what he will do?

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 3:04PM

Try it yourself first ... maybe you'll get the proper reaction.
Sean and Rush aren't reaching anywhere except in your pocket to their bank, fool.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 3:37PM

Purpie, I am trying to be nice to you and not call you the Village Idiot, now one last time:

What will Obama do to reduce unemployment from 8%, reduce black unemployment from 15%, reduce the deficit, and balance the budget? Just tell us the plan.

Warrior| 11.7.12 @ 8:39PM

Keep cooking the numbers. It's worked for 4 years already.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:19PM

"oh I will bask in the glow for quite a while" ? What is it about those that are SO BLIND THEY CANNOT SEE? [ie those in Hiroshima looking up in the sky at the B-29s approaching overhead]?????????

Ryan| 11.7.12 @ 8:27AM

Big Money lost? What do you mean by Big Money? Because I think they won no matter who would have been President...

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:37PM

This is true, sadly.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 8:56AM

WOHOO wait until we go bankrupt.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:38PM

Unemployment is down. Stock market is up. We're doing fine, actually, but thanks for rooting for the destruction of your own country. Big of you.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:18PM

47 million on food stamps, 23 million out of wok. Yep, we're doing just fine, actually. You voted for Obamarx? Thanks for rooting for the destruction of your own country. Big of you.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 8:31PM

You lost, Jack. Lost big. Ahahahahahaha. I hope you're still gnashing those teeth as the economy continues to improve. Keep thinking you're a good American as you root against your own country. Democrats will be busy cleaning up your boys' mess, as per usual.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 12:11AM

stock market is way down, unemployment (the real numbers) is way out of line. BO cost me my retirement funds with his (illegal) use of TARP money to bailout GM, screwing the bond holders (another illegal act) wiping out 40k jobs (Delphi nonunion) the pension funds of 20k (also non union) Only the unions won. They kept their jobs at taxpayer and bondholder expense and their pensions and their $100/hr benefits.
Bully for you if you made 700k. You should get to keep it. If you want to give it to BO, that is your business. BO has cost me most of my retirement. AND, I had to pay TAXES probably higher than you will.
BO has not been good to or for seniors, middle class. By the way, he made 10mill on that stupid book he didn't even write. What taxes did he pay on royalties? There are tax breaks on royalties. Bet he took advantage of the breaks. Does he deserve a lifetime of his Presidential salary when he is out? Plus a lifetime of SS guards? He is the ultimate welfare recipient. He has been given everything without working for it all his life, even his Chicago house, funded by Rezko questionable character and income at best.
Our country's credit is shot, we have printed so much money it is worthless, the Chinese practical own us, we are on the verge of bankruptcy and BO hasn't a clue. We are bankrupt and only sleight of hand has covered it up. You are a useful idiot.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:16AM

Nope. But write another essay that no one will read. I'm sure that'll somehow turn back time and make it so Obama didn't win.

What a wonderful day in America. The sun is shining. The birds are singing. And conservatives are crying as their relevance in the American political system floats merrily away.

SO MAD! WORDS AND WORDS! IF I KEEP TYPING, WE HAVEN'T LOST! WORDS!!!!!

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 1:52AM

Nope. BO barely won. Doesn't change the truth. He acted illegally in the GM bailout, he saved the unions and destroyed the pensions and jobs of 10's of 1000's. He destroyed the bondholders illegally. Obviously, you can't handle the truth and you cannot reply coherently. I recant-You are not a useful idiot. You are an ignorant idiot.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 2:55AM

Landslide, baby. God's will! The only thing that makes it sweeter is knowing you'll go to bed grinding your dentures in useless fury for the next four years. Obama won, as God intended. As Jesus intended. Thanks for praying for our country - it worked!

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 3:46AM

Not a landslide. Again you are inaccurate. You are a sore winner. God would never intend such a thing. He has allowed it. You are a blaspheming fool.
PS you again assume too much. I don't have dentures, and don't engage in useless fury. so continue to gloat and lie and spin and revel in your self aggrandizement. You reveal your ignorance, selfishness, narcissicism and illogic with every post.
It is sad but almost funny how irrelevant you are. Twist alone, you ignorant twit.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 3:54AM

Landslide. Wasn't even close. Big win for the good guys, big loss for you. And I'm not twisting alone. I'm twisting with the majority of Americans. Deny it all you want, but you lost, sucker, and you lost big. Clasp those hands and grip those beads and pray to high heaven. No one is listening, granny. Eventually, everyone will look at people like you the same way they look at people who worship Zeus. Nutjobs with too much free time and too little brains to do anything of use.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 4:12AM

What do you do with your little brain that is useful to anyone but your self?

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 8:56AM

And black is white, good is evil, and idiocy is wisdom.

All that you listed lost and lost big time. Lawlessness will continue to grow and people like you will be among the first consumed by it.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 9:53AM

This attitude is why you lost.

Tom Kyba| 11.7.12 @ 10:23AM

You were asked a simple question, which as always you decline to answer.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:41PM

So losing an election turns your world upsidedown? You might want to take a few deep breaths. This is our political system. It works, and thank God.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 12:13AM

Blasphemy you don't believe in God as you have stated in previous posts.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:17AM

God's will. He wanted Obama to win. Choose him. Have you thanked God for that today yet? I'll do it for you. Me and the big guy are pretty tight.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 10:07AM

I guess your brain stopped functioning at birth?
EVIL won -- America lost

This election was won by the demoRATS buying lowlifes like you with food stamps and welfare checks. Money stolen from productive Americans.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:42PM

More rural whites receive foodstamps than urban blacks. Sad when your personal bias doesn't match up with reality, huh?

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 1:46AM

Not factual nor a fair or valid comment. Rural vs urban? Overall, more whites are on food stamps because more of them recently became unemployed or underemployed. But for welfare in general, that dishonor belongs to blacks first.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 2:58AM

Look, I didn't mean to insult you. I know times are tough. There's no shame in taking a handout when you're down. I'm sure things will turn around for you. Obama's working on it. Until then, feel free to have some of the money I pay in taxes to buy your pills. We won't call it "redistribution," because I know you're so proud.

Obama won! It's a great day in America! One day closer to racist f*cks like you dying off and leaving this country to the real Americans. People like me.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 3:26AM

You are the racist and a vulgar, profane and inaccurate one at that. BO stole my retirement funds with his illegal bailout of GM. You assume too much. I don't collect food stamps nor do I take any drugs, esp not FDA approved poisons. I consider it a dishonor and racist to keep anyone on welfare. I wasn't being racist pointing out the facts, you were against whites. Profanity just proves your ignorance and intellectual poverty. I pay a lot of taxes and I resent it going down the dark hole of entitlements that I cannot refuse for myself. Real Americans are those that value the principles stated in the Dec of Ind and the Constitution, that are self reliant and don't demand that others pay for them.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 4:00AM

Medicine is bad! You're a racist if you don't care what color people's skin is! I collect medicare, but I hate entitlements!

You can't be a real person. No one is this mixed up. You need to have the kids check you for senility again. You're not making sense and I think I smell pee.

But your misplace rage is so cute. I could read your angry, racist, confused missives forever. Too bad you're clearly of such an advanced age, you won't be able to share your special brand of comedy with the world much longer. Or your stupidity.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 4:26AM

I don't "collect" medicare. I am eligible for it, don't want it. Resent being forced to pay for something I don't want and won't use. You can't understand what you read or you deliberately misunderstand. I won't take drugs. FDA approved drugs kill 300k per year. That is bad. Medical mistakes kill another 300k. We are a drugged nation. Probably how you got to be so stupid. It is not racist to state facts. I don't care what race a person is, I am a mongrel mix with some of everything and have hispanic surname. I do care how people act and think. You are full of ad hominems but no substance, knowledge, morals or character or relevance. You contradict yourself in every post and I have read your stupidities before under several different handles.
You are unfit for human discourse and too lacking in civility or knowledge to be relevant. You are evidence for devolution of the race, proof that evolution is false.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 3:15AM

Soros and unions arn't big money? They bought a lot of elections, including BO's
I'm middle class and I lost a lot because of BO.
The Constitution lost because BO has violated it many times. Gays should not have more rights than do any Americans. BO bought his first election and may have bought this one also.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 7:45AM

Obama now has to do something about the 16 Trillion deficit, the 8% unemployment nationwide and 15% for blacks, and Iran. He can no longer blame Bush.

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 8:02AM

Apparently, the national debt and the consequences of Obamacare are still abstract concepts to most people. All of that will come home to roost... soon. The press will have a real challenge spinning all of that.

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 8:07AM

Sure he can. If he can sit in the situation room with members of his administration and watch his own ambassador die and be re-elected, what's left?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:42PM

Good thing that didn't happen. Sounds bad.

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 11:18PM

I'd have guessed that you just watch left wing news and thus were not informed about what happened in Benghazi and the White House, but you're here so that's out, what's your excuse?

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 11:18PM

I'd have guessed that you just watch left wing news and thus were not informed about what happened in Benghazi and the White House, but you're here so that's out, what's your excuse?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 11:22PM

I read from a variety of news sources, then I think. It's that second step you gotta watch out for. Tricky.

Aaron Investigates | 11.9.12 @ 6:20AM

well..you really have two problems...

1. If he wasn't in the situation room...why not? It was in the middle of the work day...he was in town....it was a "situation".

2. I don't see a whole lot of links being offered, and I'm a bit new on the site, but...here goes...

http://www.examiner.com/articl.....ources-say

Read it and weep....and I mean that literally, as Joey would say....

irish19| 11.7.12 @ 11:53AM

He will blame the House. The media will blame the House. And there will be more executive orders. There will not be a budget or anything resembling a plan. Anyone asking why will be branded an enemy of the state and arrested for hate speech.

kingratt82| 11.7.12 @ 7:49AM

Well, McCain brings up a very good question in his last paragraph: If the last four years of gross incompetence and ineptitude, of failed economic policies and fearmongering, 'my way or the highway' politics, haven't cured American of its illness, there may not be much hope left.

JilliBrown| 11.7.12 @ 8:57AM

Hmm...it couldn't be that the majority of the country doesn't agree with that opinion - that obama's first term wasn't "four years of gross incompetence and ineptitude, of failed economic policies and fearmongering, 'my way or the highway' politics," Did that thought ever occur to you? Perhaps that's it's mr. mccains misguided opinion and the intransigence of the republican party that is the illness? Halleluiah! We've been cured!!

Ron M.| 11.7.12 @ 7:52AM

What this proves to me is I wasted 20 years of my life in service to a now dead (in my eyes) country. I deeply and profoundly regret ever beliving in the America I though was and in fact never was and never will be. The United States is dead and so are what ever it may once had ment.

JilliBrown| 11.7.12 @ 8:52AM

Oh poor, poor Ron...you get the prize for the most laughable melodramatic hooey. Well done...stay away from sharp objects...

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 8:59AM

@JiulliBrown - only a moonbat would see mourning as melodramatic hooey. It demonstrates, beyond question, the level of your intellect.

Ron M.| 11.7.12 @ 9:14AM

Better than my first thoughts, apply the lessons learned in the sand box and leave a few unpleasant gifts for people like you.

Joellen| 11.7.12 @ 10:59AM

Jilli you should be on your hands and knees thanking Ron M. for his sacrifice and service to America. No instead you are on your hands and knees praising all that represents evil. And that is why America is in the state it is.

Ron M. I do thank you for your service and it was not in vain. Every generation MUST fight to preserve freedom & liberty; so the torch has been passed on. GOD bless you and our Military.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 11:33AM

Fine, Ron.

Please leave.

You won't be missed.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 11:46AM

Shut up and start paying your fair share, Ralph.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 12:35PM

Not really. Thank you for your service and cheer up. Democracy is like this.
Do you think just maybe, it's YOU, your attitude and positions, and not America that is wrong? She is stronger the more diverse she becomes. The Economy is coming back and you can be calm.

Grzmlyk| 11.7.12 @ 1:21PM

You are just a pisspot full of liberal bromides today, aren't you?

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:13PM

"The economy is coming back"? Blessed are the DUMB for they will perish [with the rest of us]!!!!

Cincy Jan| 11.8.12 @ 2:09PM

Ron, I want to thank you for your past service and tell you that I understand your sentiments. One of my reactions to the the election was that, thank God, I hadn't lost a child in service to a country I no longer recognize. That would make the death doubly painful.

sockmonkey| 11.7.12 @ 7:55AM

Hey! Look on the bright side. In 4 years we'll be able to say I told you so...

Louis Jenkins| 11.7.12 @ 8:32AM

If there is a "in four years."

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 9:55AM

Don't you ever stop fearmongering? It doesn't work.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:11PM

"fearmongering"? Try TRUTH, but it will occur in two years, not four!!!!

Samana88| 11.7.12 @ 8:01AM

He won't blame Bush. He'll blame the Republican House. The campaign begins 20 January. The Democrats will take back the House, keep the Senate, and we will essentially be a single party country - think CA or IL on a national scale. This cannot be turned back.

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 8:04AM

Republicans are suicidal, so it's been a one-party country for a long time.

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 10:06AM

Right! 2008 was a long time ago.

HBealeJr| 11.7.12 @ 9:08AM

Good point. IL is a one party state. We are broke. As a nation we have become Chicago and are on our way to becoming Detroit.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 9:54AM

Embrace it, live it, love it ... it will be easier if you don't fight it.
(I don't really believe what you say, but there you have it)

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 10:12AM

Enjoy being enslaved by the black liar and murderer. The wealth and intelligence will be drained from this nation as the productive Americans flee obama's socialist nightmare leaving behind the unproductive creature like you.

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 11:21AM

The first four years were a warm up. Now, that he's a lame duck, he's going to let loose hell on us. Can Sharia Law be far behind?

Also, we will soon have a transgender Supreme Court freak show. Can't wait for that.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 12:36PM

So this attitude helps you and America - HOW?

Mike W| 11.7.12 @ 8:02AM

Christ Christie - "gelatinous" is a good description but I also like land whale. I dont know what Republicans have ever seen in that disgusting mass of crying blubber.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 8:17AM

Christie is a clown. Some liked him because he yelled at teachers and other union members. He will probably switch to the Dem party.

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 8:04AM

Mr. McCain, I am afraid I have nothing to alleviate your dread or your horror. The point is this, there is no finger pointing to do..pogo comes to mind in that we have met the enemy and it is us...as in that portion of the populace which now, by virtue of being the majority, are the (dare I say it) the "true" Americans. I am actually glad to read what you have written, as I have expressed similar feelings elsewhere.

The mistake that conservatives have been making is that liberals are just misguided conservatives who are "just like us" and only need to be shown the light and all will be right.

These people are voting for who they want to win. Nothing a true conservative candidate can do will change that undeniable fact. This may be the end, or we may have one more chance, but thinking that we can appeal to some inner core of goodness or intelligence which does not exist is a strategy doomed from the very start.

Feel better?? .....

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 9:59AM

Why don't you try an be true conservatives? Not right-wing wack-a-doodles on the fringe?
Do you think just maybe, it's YOU, your attitude and positions, and not America that is wrong?

Aaron Investigates | 11.7.12 @ 2:05PM

If you are directing your comment to me, I am a true conservative.

No, I do not think that maybe it's me because, unlike those on the left, if I did I would change my position to reflect that new information..'

As to the snarky comment by Mr. Novy, perhaps you missed the insight after all. Many conservatives are still searching for some hidden reason that their candidate lost. As you suggest, the answer is really quite simple, it's not the candidate, it's that we have a fundamental difference of opinion..facts and figures will not, and have not, change the way liberals vote.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 11:37AM

"These people are voting for who they want to win."

Wow. I never thought of that.

Thanks for the insight, Einstein.

Mars the Avenger| 11.7.12 @ 8:12AM

This is NOT a good morning for our country and Constitution…. It appears that God has chosen to show justice rather than mercy on our country.. and who could blame Him. A society taken up with a culture of death, as Pope John Paul II used to say. A decadent lazy society which engages in infanticide and is well on its way to euthanasia with Obamacare, hooked on bread and circuses, like American Idol, so that we took our most important duty in much the same way, and reelected a buffoon reminiscent of the WWE-type president in the film Idiocracy. H.L. Mencken had an interesting theory now being put into practice - "Democracy is the theory that holds that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Welcome to Chavez-lândia…… Obamacare is now in for sure, and our energy will get more and more expensive. More unemployment, more debasing of our currency. We can’t count on the Republicans in Congress to do anything. They didn’t do anything to fight this in the last four years, so why would anyone think they would act out of character. If Boehner is reelected Speaker of the House, look to Congressional Republicans being rolled for another two years and for our illustrious speaker to bend over and grab his ankles at Dear Leader’s behest.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 12:12PM

Why don't you try an be true conservatives? Not right-wing wack-a-doodles on the fringe?
Do you think just maybe, it's YOU, your attitude and positions, and not America that is wrong?

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:08PM

There will be no more "America" in two years!!!!!

mfeder| 11.7.12 @ 8:12AM

Do not forget that the greatest legacy from this election will be the supreme court justices Obama leaves behind by the end of his term. Doomed indeed.

Mars the Avenger| 11.7.12 @ 8:12AM

Romney realized my worst fears as a Republican candidate by doing a “play it safe” campaign. Obama was probably more vulnerable than Jimmy Carter – a thoroughly target rich environment for even any candidate for student council president of any high school. The election was the Republicans’ to lose, and they lost….. since 1996 they seemed to have developed a knack for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.

We needed a Gingrich-type candidate who would have gone for Obama’s jugular. Granted, Romney is a good and decent man, but in today’s political environment, as Vince Lombardi used to say, nice guys finish last. Just as true in politics as it was in football…..

The quote from the Roman satirist Juvenal says it all about our country as it did for Rome in his time: "Iam pridem, ex quo suffragia nulli vendimus, effudit curas; nam qui dabat olim imperium, fasces, legiones, omnia, nunc se continet atque duas tantum res anxius optat, panem et circenses." (“Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, we the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions - everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses.”) -- Roman Satirist, Iunius Decimus Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Satire 10, 77-81.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 9:09AM

I think Herman Cain would have won, but the Republican establishment made sure he was out also to the delight of Obam and the democrats.

Mars the Avenger| 11.7.12 @ 8:13AM

Ben Franklin was also prophetic in a way.

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

We got the government we deserve….. I am thoroughly disappointed, and disgusted with the way the Republican Party handled this campaign. Just reaffirms why I left the Republican Party and reregistered as an independent over 10 years ago – I will hold my nose and vote Republican, but financially support the most conservative, Constitutionalist candidates.

oldeham| 11.7.12 @ 8:18AM

Spot on - and has the BORG King rules with Executive Orders watch some states go back to nullification. The Constitution crisis is just beginning.

MelvinNC| 11.7.12 @ 8:20AM

American society is ruptured. Some support secession, sedition or a combo of both. Some say that these ideas are absurd and they cannot happen here in this Country.
But I beg to differ. As a Nation we are as divided if not more than we were prior to the war between the States.
We are already divided into regions by our government and the media, with it's Red and Blue States maps. So I guess one could say we already have begun to mentality prepare ourselves.
So shouldn't Conservatives secede from this Union? Why should Conservatives continually have to be forced to do and pay for things that go against the Conservative philosophy?
I'm just sick and damn tired of having to pay for Wall Street and Welfare Queens, and no matter how many bailouts I help pay for, or support the free cell phone program, I'm still called a Sonuvabitch, by both of those sides. My philosophy now is, Fuck both of em. The Wall Streeters can go screw themselves along with the welfare bitches.

JilliBrown| 11.7.12 @ 8:47AM

Put your big girl panties on and grow up Melvin.

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 9:01AM

He is a grown up. Your childishness prevents from recognizing when an adult is speaking.

MelvinNC| 11.7.12 @ 9:08AM

Grow up, you tell me to grow up. I go to work at 5:00 A.M. and get off at 4:00 dog ass tired. I go to our local fish market and see welfare queens using their welfare cards purchasing Alaskan King Crab, Prawns and bags of Louisiana Cray Fish.
I have to buy the cheapest fish that I can afford for my family, because my take home pay is getting less because of higher taxes.
Myself, and my children and their children will have to pay for the bankrupt energy companies like Solyndra and the others that went bankrupt. We bailed out GM and now Jeep is moving it's manufacturing to China, and you have the unmitigated gall to tell me to put my big girl panties on and grow up
I hope one day I have the pleasure to see your sorry ass in the gutter begging for food because everything went to complete shit.
I've been around the world over two and a half times, found one war, raised three children with the same woman for over thirty years. So get off my back bitch, your the one that needs to grow up. Shut the fuck up and go back to watching Jersey Shore. While the rest of us have to go back to work.

Minuteman78| 11.7.12 @ 9:27AM

You tell her, Melvin. But this McCain is right - it's over, the United States is over, when you have anywhere close to 50% of the electorate in the 'gimme gimme' mode, it's game over. The moochers won.

G.S. Patton| 11.7.12 @ 8:34AM

I saw this on another site ...... worth reposting: This quote came from the Czech Republic.
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Anthony| 11.7.12 @ 10:26AM

So true G.S. America lost last night, not Romney. We are a nation whose majority are indeed depraved dimwits, hucksters, and leeches.
A civilized attempt was made yesterday to rectify this imbalance, what now happens under an unleashed Obozo will be too terrible to contemplate.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 8:42AM

Now that reality has brought them back to earth, the TAS crowd is back to doing what it does best: running down the United States of America and its citizens. And you wonder why the people of this country reject your message?

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 9:03AM

The truth often hurts RCV. Simply stating the facts as they are does not run down anyone. People like you are fools and utterly depraved.

G.S. Patton| 11.7.12 @ 9:15AM

I find it interesting, citizens of old Soviet bloc countries are dumbfounded, at our betrayal of what made this country great. It wasn't free health care, or the nanny state as Margret Thatcher exclaimed. It was absolutes. It was freedom; freedom to fail, and freedom to succeed. Why do they know this ? Because they have lived under the alternative. You haven't. YET. Nothing is free. A concept, many people are going to learn over the next few years in hard reality.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 10:05AM

Critticizing the presidetn and the government, according to Hillary, is patriotic, remember?

Congratulations.

Now, tell us what Obama will do to reduce unemployment, especially among blacks, balance the budget, reduce the deficit, and deal with Iran. Purpie is unable to answer.

Von Mises Jr| 11.7.12 @ 11:21AM

I know. I know. Is the contest on yet, TLP?

All the blacks and unemployed will be re-defined as working under the welfare edict. You can blog, clean your neighbor's kitchen or take an hour of job training each week and PRESTO.....YOUR NOT UNEMPLOYED ANYMORE.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 11:48AM

Bingo.

Sadly.

Anthony| 11.7.12 @ 2:33PM

RCV, Interesting how today you and Purp now identify yourselves as the real patriots for America and its citizens. Why your love of country is positively amazing. You guys are kidding right?Who is the author of this bizarre talking point, Axelrod?
In Orwellian terms, the transformation of America to a socialistic state would indeed make your hearts go pitter-patter.
The only message that was rejected last night was the one that speaks to individual responsibility, self reliance, and real patriotism and love of country, something both you and Purp know nothing about, but will soon find out.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 3:10PM

Anthony
You just do not understand.

It is patriotic when Dems call Bush a liar, war criminal, idiot, stupid, and they call Gen Petraus a betrayer, call the military war criminals (Sen Turbin and Sen Jean Kerry). Hillar instructed us that it is patriotic to criticize the government and president.

It is not patriotic, but treasonous, for a Republcian to criticize O, or question the Leader.

I hope that clarifies it for you so you do not have to attend a re-education program.

Anthony| 11.7.12 @ 4:47PM

When they come for me, they better bring along a few body bags, one for me, and several for those unfortunate members of Obozo's civilian army who will join me in our next journey.

RCV| 11.9.12 @ 2:28PM

Believe me, Anthony, no one is coming for you.

JilliBrown| 11.7.12 @ 8:46AM

""The list of fools who have brought this disaster upon us certainly also will include New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the gelatinous clown who (a) hogged up a prime time spot at the Republican convention to sing his own praises; (b) embraced Obama as the hero of Hurricane Sandy; and (c) then refused to appear at campaign events in support of Romney's presidential campaign. Good luck with the remainder of your political future, governor. It is unlikely Republicans shall soon forget your perfidious betrayal."

Something tells me that you (and the bulk of the commenters are) incapable of doing the introspection necessary to recognize the real nature of the problem and the cause of the loss(es). I think a 12 year old could present a more cogent and realistic evaluation of why romney and republicans have lost...and will continue to lose. Keep taking cues and direction from talk radio windbags and blowhards like mr. mccain here, and losing national elections will become the norm for the gop.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 9:00AM

The country will go down and you with it.

Tom Kyba| 11.7.12 @ 10:28AM

The point is that he/she/it will blame someone else, as always.

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 9:05AM

The GOP establishment is quite good at losing elections. Or hadn't you noticed Jilli? The GOP is slowly being reabsorbed by the Party their mother, the Whigs, left many years ago. The problem is the original Dems were fairly conservative, while the Dimocrats today is a party of fools. Bigger fools than the GOP establishment.

As jade says, the country is going to go down. People like yourself will be among the first consumed by the fall.

Louis Jenkins| 11.7.12 @ 8:48AM

The end. It's hard when brought about by friends that are called Republicans. Romney could have gone for the jugular, but didn't on more than one occassion. We think we can reconstruct and go for it again in four years, but America has crossed over the line. Small business, people with any amount of money, individualists, conservatives, we're on the way out. We're a dying breed. By the end of another four years 65% will not be paying taxes. The center will be farther to the left. More diplomats will be dead, and Israel will be a ghost town. Even this website will be shut down. Arms-the UN treaty will rule and we will be in prison for owning one. Gays and Muslims will be the new norm, and heterosexuality will be the new weird. A true American family will be a thing of the past. It is not good. The light on the hill-America-has been snuffed out. We have seen what expecting the American political process to do for us has brought. Good luck to my fellow posters here.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:22AM

Oh grow up.

The gerrymandered house will be GOP for decades. Maybe they will grow a pair and shut down the g for a couple of months.

I have four excellent clients looking for capital to invest in business infrastructure and product development. From 2007 to 2010, only vampires like Bain were available - at 15-20% !$@#!. Only now, in the last several months has capital become available. That did not happen in a vacuum.
In a mixed economy, the G is the backstop, and in the US it has been a backstop countless times with success.

The stimulus partially worked and the QE2 and 3 is starting to pan out. Housing has also had a 5% uplift meaning the underwriting of capital will begin anew.

My business is positioned well, finally, after years in the abyss after the Bush/GOP mischief nearly scorched the economy Japan-style.

I am now a believer in correcting past sins, and using the G as the hammer. Hopefully BHO will have the balls to start a parade of perp walks.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 11:53AM

Hear, hear, canuckstani.

Louis Jenkins| 11.7.12 @ 12:52PM

Great. Now what country to you live in?

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:24PM

Right here with you, amigo.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 10:16PM

Well "amigo", enjoy that "country" for the next two years of its existence!!!!!!!!!

Have you considered| 11.7.12 @ 8:53AM

The WSJ indicated that there was a D+6 turnout.
D 38 / R 32 / I 30

In contrast, the 2010 turnout was D35/R35/I30

The Republicans lost the Tea Party support by not fulfilling the Pledge, and the debt ceiling debacle has now come back to bite. I honestly believe this is the issue that took the wind out of the TEA Party's sails.

This time, gender turnout Women 54 / Men 46

Women voted D 55%
Men voted R 52%

Whether you like it or not, Roe is established law.

There are MILLIONS of women who have had abortions, and these women, although potentially inclined to vote for fiscal restraint, will NEVER support SoCons and the Republican party. I personally know several who fall into this category, and the repulsion is personal and visceral.

I also know several gay folks, that once again may be inclined to vote for fiscal restraint, but will NEVER support the Republicans and SoCons.

You can wish it weren't so, and you can disagree all you want, but it will not change this fact.

I think it is this simple.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 9:02AM

And America will deserve what it gets.

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 9:07AM

Roe v Wade is not law. Judges don't pass law, they are too aplly it. the decision was created from whole cloth and both sides have admitted to that.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 11:59AM

Roe v. Wade isn't law, eh?

Created from whole cloth -- i.e., from out of thin air -- and both sides admit it?

Tell that to even Scalia or Thomas and see what kind of response you get. You won't be pleased.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 2:10AM

The case was about voiding the law congress passed preventing taxpayer funds being used for abortions. The judges went beyond that and claimed a right to privacy that is bogus. It is not law. It is precedent and only applies to cases brought about abortion, though in various lower court cases, it has sometimes been cited to support a right to privacy on other matters.
It is a case that is cited as extreme judicial activism. Some praise and condone judicial activism, as many condemn it. Both sides admit that it is judicial activism. Dred Scot was judicial activism and is no longer cited as precedent and has gone down in history as a dark period of extremely bad decisions. Even the young woman used by the ACLU to prosecute the case says she wishes it would never have happened and regrets the decision. It can be overturned. It should be overturned. It won't because of those liberal, unqualified appointments by BO and because it is unlikely any case will be brought before the court that would give rise to overturning. SCOTUS can only hear what is appealed to them after lengthy lower court hearings and rulings. But even Obamacare, unless I missed something, cannot require taxpayer funded abortions. Congress can pass laws restricting or outlawing abortion and then someone will have to take them to court to overturn the law.

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 12:17PM

Roe v. Wade is part of U.S. common law.

Common law is often referred to as "judge-made law." Yes, judges indeed DO make law. They do it every day.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 2:18AM

Common law is not judge made law. Judicial activism is the name for rulings that go beyond the case at hand. Judicial decisions are precedent, not law and not common law. Common law is what has been commonly accepted for many years, and sometimes cited by lawyers and/or judges in their decisions, not laws passed by governing bodies. It may be that judicial decisions are written into laws passed by governing bodies, but this was not the case with Roe vs Wade "right to privacy" decision, nor with taxpayer funded abortions.
The vast body of our law came from English common law.

Ralph Novy| 11.10.12 @ 2:58AM

Where'd you get your law degree, handsoff?

DeVry?

You're just dead wrong. Your arguments hold no water. Almost any first-year law student would recognize that.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 4:33AM

Where did you get your degree?
And what argument did I make that does not hold water?
I relayed a law professor's comments on Roe v Wade and common law from my first year law class, which I aced. Not Harvard law school, it is a joke.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 4:52AM

Perhaps this legalese will help you. I simplified it in my first comment, which was accurate. You were only peripherally and in a very limited fashion correct, which I did acknowledge in my comment but you could not recognize.
Also, from Black's law dictionary, part of the definition of common law (it is very extensive, which I simplified in my first comment)
What is COMMON LAW? definition of COMMON LAW (Black's Law Dictionary) 5. As concerns its force and authority in the United States, the phrase designates that portion of the common law of England (including such acts of parliament as were applicable) which had been adopted and was in force here at the time of the Revolution. This, so far as it has not since been expressly abrogated, is recognized as an organic part of the jurisprudence of most of the United States. Browning v. Browning, 3 N. M. 371, 9 Pac. 677; Guardians of Poor v. Greene, 5 Bin. (Pa.) 557; U. S. v. New Bedford Bridge, 27 Fed. Cas. 107. 6. In a wider sense than any of the foregoing, the “common law” may designate all that part of the positive law, juristic theory, and ancient custom of any state or nation which is of general and universal application, thus marking off special or local rules or customs.

handsoff| 11.10.12 @ 4:54AM

In addition, another definition
"Common-law courts base their decisions on prior judicial pronouncements rather than on legislative enactments. Where a statute governs the dispute, judicial interpretation of that statute determines how the law applies. Common-law judges rely on their predecessors' decisions of actual controversies, rather than on abstract codes or texts, to guide them in applying the law. Common-law judges find the grounds for their decisions in law reports, which contain decisions of past controversies. Under the doctrine of Stare Decisis, common-law judges are obliged to adhere to previously decided cases, or precedents, where the facts are substantially the same. A court's decision is binding authority for similar cases decided by the same court or by lower courts within the same jurisdiction. The decision is not binding on courts of higher rank within that jurisdiction or in other jurisdictions, but it may be considered as persuasive authority.

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 8:55AM

Intrade was right.

Kingofthenet| 11.7.12 @ 9:01AM

Message to Bibi Netanyahu, ALWAYS bet on Black...

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:06PM

Or instead bet on Red [ie Russia or China] or maybe Green [ie Muslim Brotherhood]??????

merlin| 11.7.12 @ 9:01AM

Have you read "The Harbinger"?

"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 9:05AM

God has turned his back on America for now.

Kingofthenet| 11.7.12 @ 9:36AM

Sour Grapes ALWAYS make the BEST Whine...

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 10:03AM

Not sour grapes, it is the truth. People like you have embraced EVIL and you will pay for it. You re-elected a non-leader that watched four Americans die and did nothing. You re-elected a non-leader who has divided the nation with his hatred and class warfare rhetoric. You have re-elected EVIL.

Chef Schnauzer| 11.7.12 @ 10:31AM

You are correct, djn1313. I feel myself compelled to discard diplomatic language and 'Jack Webb' it - the fact Ma'am, just the facts. The sexually deviant sodomites (2 - 4% of pop) hold sway over so much of the society. So the nation chooses Dr.s murdering the individual choosing suicide, Dr.s murdering infants in the womb, and sodomite 'marriage' (yuk). The government / union schools continue to teach to the lowest common belch and fart. Pray for the Lord's intervention and Grace.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 12:04PM

You DID pray for the Lord's intervention and Grace.

He gave you Obama.

Now either accept his decision or don't. But don't pretend He didn't make it.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 12:41PM

Yes, He gave us obama as a punishment for the majority of Americans who turned their backs on Him. We prayed that Americans would accept His message, we cannot control what those people do we can only control what we do.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 12:44PM

We can control what we ourselves do, we cannot control others. As long as Americans continue to ignore His message why should He intervene? Sad, isn't it, how far our nation's people have fallen from good and embraced EVIL.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 10:13PM

"We went to war on a lie"? Tell that to the relatives of the 3000 of 9/11/01 [some of whom lept to their deaths and hit the concrete at 100 MPH]!!!!!!!!!!

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:30AM

We went to war on a lie, killed THOUSANDS of american troops, injured, permanently, tens of thousands more and spent $1T on the credit card.

The compassionate conservative was re-elected, and this site applauded America's wisdom and fortitude.

Look in the mirror.

Benghazi will be investigated soberly and people will lose their jobs as a result. Petraeus and Clinton will be on the firing line.

The attack happened in a nacent new country that had been our blood enemy for over forty years, that not even RR could correct. This was an error, but on the scale of presidential mistakes, this is a 1 compared to w's parade of 10's that noone on here had the guts to call out.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 12:06PM

Yes. All this shouting and wailing about half a dozen lives lost on Obama's watch, but nary a peep about the tens of thousands lost on Bush's.

If that ain't rank hypocrisy ....

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 12:52PM

What tens of thousands under Bush? More lives have been lost under obama's reign. What about all the lives lost because of Fast and Furious? What about all the lives lost in Libya, Egypt, Jordan, and Syria because obama is funding and arming the muslim brotherhood terrorists? What about the Ft.Hood mslim murderer obama refuses to execute for killing 14 Americans on our soil? Do you liberals ever stop with the LIES? I guess you are no diffrent than the liar-in-chief you re-elected?

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:28PM

No, like Goebbels, you had one giant lie that was so imbued on your yellow underbelly that even today, with sobriety, you cannot even begin to contemplate the crime.

Ralph Novy| 11.12.12 @ 3:18AM

Do the research and math, djn. Yes, tens of thousands -- in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'd accuse you of being a liar, but that would probably be too charitable. You're just a gullible moron who's ignorant of facts readily available to anyone with half a brain, a computer and an internet connection -- and gets his "facts" from Fox News.

I mean, to even TRY to claim that tens of thousands of "innocent" lives WEREN'T lost in the Iraqi wars/embargo is stunningly ignorant.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 12:30AM

How many were lost in Vietnam? a lot more like 50k+ and that was a JFK/LBJ war. (Dems don't you know)
re cc spending-under BO, more was spent and the deficit increased more than all previous Pres combined. How to spin THAT?

Ralph Novy| 11.12.12 @ 3:21AM

1. Your "50k+" figure shows your racism. That only accounts for AMERICAN dead.

2. Obama did NOT increase the national deficit more than all previous presidents combined. LOOK IT UP! And particularly look up how much G.W. Bush ran up the deficit in that kind of comparison.

HBealeJr| 11.7.12 @ 9:02AM

Your writings caught my mood exactly. This was more than an election. It was the Gettysburg of the American cultural war. We lost. We have become a nation content to have government do for us, give to us. And in the process we have become a nation more than willing to allow class warfare to thrive.
Romney did not fail. How does a party let alone a single man achieve victory when they have to take on both the democrat party and the mainstream media? It cannot be done. The tipping point has been reached. Get ready. Revenge is coming.

Simon Templar| 11.7.12 @ 9:10AM

Apparently, you are one of the few that get it. God speed to you my patriot brother....

JP| 11.7.12 @ 9:23AM

I agree. Mitt was not my first choice. But, the last 6 weeks he really impressed me. I may not have agreed with him on everything; but, he showed me that he could do the job. GOP turnout for him exceeded even 2004 (which was a record).

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 9:59AM

Based on the lower turnout I think a lot of Americans did not come out and vote for Romney because the media portrayed his Mormon faith as evil, yet many Americans had no problem voting to re-elect a president of islamic faith, the same people trying to kill us. Our nation is truly lost.

Vic| 11.7.12 @ 12:35PM

I have said this before and say this again "Mormons are bad but Muslims are worse". I voted for the mormonic moron but was not fascinated by the choice presented me. Hope the GOP never repeats this mistake again!

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:35AM

He pivoted to the center. I'm glad he impressed you, because he should have done that one second after the 1441 delegate was selected.

Jade12| 11.7.12 @ 9:06AM

Have your fun now libbes you have no idea what suffering is coming. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Seek| 11.7.12 @ 11:48AM

This is the sort of comment that will push us back even further. If you're planning on terrorism and assassinations, I would recommend residence somewhere else.

It's time for conservatives to get to work with constructive arguments. There are ways of winning without descending to our lower halves.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 12:11PM

You are a voice in the wilderness here, Seek.

I probably wouldn't agree with many of the positions you take and proposals you make, but I'd respect that you're willing to engage in rational discourse about them.

Good luck to you.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:22PM

Seek: As I recall it was the progressive/marxist/communists that threatened violence and were calling for the murder of Romney if he won? How convenient you commies paint only one side of the story.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:31PM

Only O'Keefe-esque trolls were calling for that. Watching Faux News focus on that one Black Panther clown in Philly is all the propaganda I needed to have a good laugh ahead of the final count.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:57PM

Yeah, talk about FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS huh???????

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 4:01PM

PS: Speaking of a "clown", how about that Attorney General who declined to prosecute and who facilitated the Marc Rich amnesty for HillBilly????????

Simon Templar| 11.7.12 @ 9:06AM

People will make you out as being too extreme and pessimistic. I thank you for your brutal honesty, it is a sliver of hope that you are, as a conservative columnist, at least willing to face some realities.
I have been attempting in my very small way on this blog to wake up conservatives that this is much more than just winning elections.
If we do not face the larger realities of a corrupt media, education system, and entertainment conglomerate, this will continue. If we can not learn how to fight their narratives, their election fraud and intimidation, their indoctrination and control of all medias and education institutions, this will never end.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:34PM

Simon, Willard won the majority of seniors - the demo that eats up the most of our entitlement programs that they did not contribute enough to over their working lives.

How do you describe that corruption of logic?

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:55PM

Ever heard of Medicaid and how much do its recipients "contribute"?????????????

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 2:36AM

I contributed more than enough. I would happily take back my money plus interest in present value rather than collect SS or Medicare. I would like to not get Medicare at least. But guess what? I can't without giving up my SS which I paid for. Thanks to Clinton and his adding a stupid statement to the POMS (which according to SCOTUS is a regulation Not having the force of law) which forces me to be stuck with Medicare in order to get my money back that I paid in, unwillingly. I know many seniors that hate Medicare and voted for Mitt.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 9:07AM

Liberal CNN has a poll the night before the election that was weighted + 11 for democrats and yet Romney was till ahead by 1%.

Yet on election day, with Republicans voting like their lives depended on it, and with so many reports of long lines as also in my precinct, Romney does not even get as many votes as McCain got in 2008?

The math and the stories of extra long lines do not add up.

There were many early-vote many stories in at least 7 battleground states where voters would vote for Romney on electronic machines and the vote would come up Obama. The democrats in charge of their polling places were complicit in election fraud for Obam.

Drudge's totals do not include Florida but here's what is posted without those 8 million votes:

2012 Totals:

O - 54,773,837
R - 53,716,689

Here are the Totals in 2008:

O - 69,498,215
Mc - 59,948,240

Add in about 4 million each in Florida and Obam is down by over 10 million and Romney has less votes than Mc Cain did!

Quartermaster| 11.7.12 @ 9:09AM

Yeppers. McNasty outperformed Mittens. NO surprise to me either. I've been predicting sicne last winter that Mittens would not win. he simply is not different enough from Obama to matter. Even George Soros said so.

James Baker| 11.7.12 @ 9:43AM

And in Colorado we had Admendment 64 to legalize weed, so all sorts of people came out to vote just for that admendment. I think that tipped Colorado over the edge. Not even going into the large amounts of provisional votes I saw yesterday.

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 10:24AM

We have now turned Colorado into a haven for every pot head who wants to get high without exposure to state law enforcement (the feds may have something to say, though), expanded the pot dispensaries into, essentially, smoke shops, and changed the law enforcement approach from hindering small-time pot transactions to investigating widespread drug robberies, either of individual users or of pot dispensaries and their farms.

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:34AM

So what? Tax it.

The entire south had hillbillies making hooch for centuries. Nobody complained on here.

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 12:14PM

Yeah, I don't live in Appalachia.

And taxing it doesn't address the criminal issue.

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 12:16PM

And on the "no complaining" issue, the Department of the Treasury, the Office of the Attorney General, and local law enforcement did plenty of complaining, with the approval of the voters of both the state concerned and the nation.

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 12:18PM

Oh, and I forget BATF.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:48PM

"making hooch"? Are you also referring to the Al Capones of Chicago and the Joe Kennedys of Boston who bought/sold that "hooch" DA??????

Miles Glorious| 11.7.12 @ 9:09AM

The triumph of the willfully indolent.

Pony Express| 11.7.12 @ 9:09AM

Voters a continent apart made history Tuesday on two divisive social issues, with Maine becoming the first state to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote and Washington state becoming the first to legalize recreational use of marijuana.

"The Times they are a changing . . ." Remember the old Bob Dylan song.

Yeah, they're changing, so get over it.

Simon Templar| 11.7.12 @ 9:17AM

This comment of yours is why I am no longer a liberal. You won. That is not enough, apparently. Now, you demand that those who disagree with you get over it. Keep pushing. You will get the civil war you are agitating for and you will be surprised as to its outcome.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 11:50AM

I don't think so, Simon. You misread the electorate, and you clearly misread the intent of the American people to preserve the Union against would-be traitors like yourself.

Anthony| 11.7.12 @ 2:41PM

Ohh looks like RCV has applied for a job with Obozo's citizen army and hopes to be in charge of one of the internment camps for conservatives.
Do you folks see a pattern today to RCV's and vtwin's posts? Yep, we conservatives are now traitors and un-American, hence need to be dispatched.
Come get us RCV, we'll be waiting......

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 3:13PM

Gee, I thought RCV was talking about the treasonous Obama ads where they Obamadolts said they would burn the ?????? down if Romney "ousted" Obama.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.7.12 @ 3:56PM

Yes, apparently threatening to c*#k punch the other party's nominee is an example of civil discourse.

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 3:51PM

You are free to voice any opinion you want. You are free to run candidates who can try to convince the American people of the wisdom of your views. You tried that and lost. Try again next time.

But you pick up arms against this country and you will feel the full force of the law. Facts are facts.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 12:20PM

I'll just bet you never once railed against Newt Gingrich for his several "get over it" exhortations.

And Pony Express wasn't "demanding" anything. That "keep pushing" thing is very telling. Tells me you're a thin-skinned twerp who can dish it out but can't take it. A playground bully.

Grow up.

JP| 11.7.12 @ 9:20AM

Yes, when you are on a 1 way road to Hell why not go for broke?

norma| 11.7.12 @ 9:13AM

I think you capture the feelings of most of us in the other America, the one being lost in the stampede of immigrants, legal and illegal, in the entitlement morass that is now going to engulf us, in the total collapse of societal norms and values. That this charlatan and liar is now riding higher than ever astounds me -- and that military voters in Virginia gave Obama half their vote is even more so. I agree with you. The best is over. The future is here. And they guy isn't even American.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:18PM

Yes, there is no future for this nation.

JP| 11.7.12 @ 9:18AM

"What is left to hope for? That the American people will soon regret their choice? That another four years of economic stagnation and escalating debt will cure them of their insane appetite for charismatic liberals? If four years of endless failure have not rid them of this madness, the disease may well be terminal."

In the back of my mind, I gave up on the GOP even before last night's defeat. I personally do not care a wit what Boehnner now does, as we all know he will eventually back whatever Reid and Obama give him. Perhaps if the GOP elect a new House Speaker I might change my mind. Good luck with that.

The one person who did impress me was Mitt. I thought he did about as good a job as anyone could have done under the circumstances. His organization did exceed 2004 turn-out; but, Axelrod and company scoured the streets and back allies from Wisconsin to Denver to Florida. So be it. Essientially historic debt, falling incomes, chronic unemployment, and an economy on life support mean little to 51% of Americans. And it wasn't just the welfare queens, 35 year old grad students, and hyper-sexual feminists who put Obama back in office; from Wall St bankers, to software engineers; from media consultants to white collar middle managers - the so-called credentialed class. They all voted for Obama. Both the uneducated and the over-educated went for The One. Everyone in the middle went for Mitt. It was a bridge too far.

Dave Williams| 11.7.12 @ 9:34AM

If libbies want to be stupid and go off a cliff, fine, but I resent like hell being dragged along with them. RIP, America.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 12:21PM

Bye, bye.

DO let the door his your ass on the way out.

Ralph Novy| 11.7.12 @ 12:22PM

... hit ...

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:37PM

No, you'd rather have a hissy fit and get all Randian in your disdain for shared programs. You'd probably be just like her and die under SS and MC using your spouses' name.

Frauds are always exposed, eventually.

Parker| 11.7.12 @ 9:38AM

There are three facts that the American people refuse to acknowledge in their never ending quest for a legitimate Constitutional republican form of government. To wit:
1. The Public Education System-K thru graduate- is an utter disaster and feeds the beast. It is nothing but a means to indoctrinating children and adults, into a collectivist world view. It needs utterly demolished, defunded and abandoned as a model for 'educating' the nations future. Public Education is the brain-child of Socialists John Dewey and Horace Mann.
2. The Public Sector Unions are nothing but a cabal of corruption which leaches off the private sector for all government expansion and is used as a giant campaign funding device for electioneering at the expense of political enemies. Even law enforcement is corrupted by them. These unions need to be outlawed. Public employees (totally depend on entitlement programs) are not entitled to earn more than those who pay their way.
3. The major media outlets (another public servant) are nothing more than political propagandists. Does anyone (other than a partisan hack) truly believe the media was unbiased or anything but dishonest in the reporting on anything related to the performance of this Administration? National, foreign, or economic policy?

Until Americans have the intestinal and spiritual fortitude to admit and confront these enemies, we will continue to get the exact same thing from the people and our government.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 2:27AM

I wish I could disagree with you, but I can't. Even what might be hyperbole seems too accurate for me to quibble.
Now I'm even more depressed.

squalis| 11.7.12 @ 9:41AM

$16,000,000,000,000 debt and counting.

14-15 % true unemployment.

Crony capitalism at its worst.

Weakest post-recession economic recovery on record.

Foreign policy miscues, with more to come.

Health care run by know nothing Fed bureaucrats.

Weakened military.

Higher taxes, and fewer paying them.

Social Security time bomb.

Lying, obsequious press.

YEA! WE'RE SAVED! OBAMA WON!

Signed,
Le Roi de Coeur

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 11:37AM

Time to pay up for the markers we ran up under successive GOP regimes.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:15PM

Don't scream too loud when he shoves his taxes [via a broom handle] up your anus to "pay up"!!!!!

canuckistani| 11.7.12 @ 3:38PM

Fine. If that is what is needed to pay the check, then bring it.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 10:08PM

What was that Forrest G. said??????

RAM| 11.7.12 @ 9:46AM

1. The underlying problem is not this or that action or statement during the campaign; it's the corruption of the electorate starting in the schools dominated by leftists and reinforced by the leftist media. Without an effective plan to recapture the schools, who will be open to a pro-Constitutional argument? We have conservatives now because some pulled free of this big magnet or managed to get some other form of education. Options along those lines are steadily decreasing as schools intensify the propaganda in their curricula and their rules shutting out challenges to it.

2. I don't attribute any diabolical motives to Christie. He needed Federal aid for his state pronto and thought flattery would work on Obama. However, he should have understood that Obama and crew can't manage anything properly except our enslavement.

3. We now see how Justice Roberts did us no great favor in finding a way to keep Obamacare alive as a campaign issue. The problem is that the real costs and dangers of Obamacare have not yet come home to roost, so the Republicans' invoking them in this year's campaign was ineffective. Not to mention that his job is Chief Justice, not pundit extraordinaire.

squalis| 11.7.12 @ 9:55AM

If there was any cleverness to Obamacare, it was the design that the real impact would not be felt until after the 2012 elections.

For the last 3-4 years I've been thinking wait until Nov. 2012. I'm now wondering if it's worth the effort thinking "wait until Nov. 2016."

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 9:53AM

What about religious beliefs, and how they guide and influence people’s actions?

There is theism and atheism. America is still portrayed as a more religious country than old Europe, especially in terms of going to church.

I think one useful generality is that Democrats tend to be atheists and Republicans theists.

Beyond the conventional wisdom, consider this---

“Atheism is traditionally associated with the philosophy of materialism, rather than spiritualism. And the realistic or atheistic view tends to be the foundation for all kinds of political, social and technological movements, since its orientation is towards the investigation and manipulation of material Nature. Atheism is realism and materialism. It is about the acquisition of knowledge about Nature and the exploitation of that knowledge to command (or gain power over) Nature. And it is this scheme of knowledge and power (expressed as political and technological means of all kinds) that is the basis of the mythology and quasi-religion of atheism. The atheistic (or non-theistic) view of life is ego-based, organized relative to Nature as an elemental or perceived process, and committed to knowledge and power as the means of salvation (or material fulfillment of egoity).” Page 81, “Nirvanasara”, Da Free John 1982

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 9:54AM

It's ALWAYS all about---me, or Narcissus.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 9:55AM

The changing demographics of unproductive creatures and the dumbed down youth in this nation chose EVIL over what is good. They chose to re-elect a man who watched four Americans die and did nothing, a man who is the most divisive non-leader this nation ever had, and a man who hates everything and everyone that lives in this nation. America has become a nation of unproductive, immoral, and clueless sheep.

America RIP - born 7/4/2012 died 11/6/2012

Kingofthenet| 11.7.12 @ 10:11AM

Alright, Here is a simple fact Americans LOVE winners and lucky people, and President Obama IS a winner, and ALWAYS has been. Here is a guy from modest beginnings, somehow gets to the top of the class in the BEST Colleges in the world, becomes Senator, than President before 50. He manages to get done practically Universal Healthcare, something that eluded LBJ, Clinton and a host of other 'lessor' Presidents, THIS is a person EVERY smart person in the World would want to be able to count as a friend and 'pal' around with. Sure the insecure and racists will make excuses for their OWN shortcomings, say he really isn't that bright or lucky, but the facts speak for themselves he REALLY is!

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:17PM

Too bad obama never made his school records public or what foreign person/government funded his education. obama is a LOSER, never did accomplish anything in his life. He is a dumb puppet propped up by America's enemies and the unproductive fools dependent on government handouts.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:05PM

History will be the judge of his success or failure [not people like yourself]!!!!

Anthony| 11.7.12 @ 10:17AM

Romney did not lose this election. The American people did. Fifty years of non stop leftist hegomony, 24/7, put the final nail in America's coffin.
We are now a nation controled by the takers. We are now an idiocracy run by the four pillars of corruption; the Marxist D party, the media, academia, and Hollywood.
When the money runs out from the minority of us who are the makers, it will be Armegeddon time.

Seek| 11.7.12 @ 11:42AM

The problem isn't Hollywood. I see at least one movie a week and no detect some massive Comintern behind the scripts.

I do see a much more obvious problem to which too few fellow conservatives can admit: blacks, Hispanics and Asians. In other words, nonwhites. They are the muscle of the Democrats. And with the proportion of whites shrinking with each passing election cycle, vdare's Peter Brimelow has been proven quite right: We are electing a new people. Our immigration policy is dooming us.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:52PM

"The problem isn't Hollywood. I see at least one movie a week and no detect some massive Comintern behind the scripts"? This proves my previous point!!!!!!!!!

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 10:18AM

Then there's this---

“Whenever theism or religion becomes the base for political or social order, it (the ego) inevitable becomes the base for knowledge and power in the material world. And theistic regimes have historically been equally as aggressive in the manipulation and suppression of humanity as have atheistic regimes. Theism is, at its base, egoic and fitted to worldly concerns. Therefore, when it achieves worldly power, it simply adopts the same general materialistic means that are adopted by atheism.

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 10:18AM

to continue--

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the principle theistic religions (in terms of worldly power and numbers), and they are all based on similar idealistic conceptions of God and creature and salvation, but each of these cults has also historically sought and achieved the general power to command the social order. And, in the process, each of these cults became a political State, controlling the forms of knowledge and power. As a result, over time these religions developed more and more of a secular, materialistic, and worldly character. Each of the three cults claims absolute, independent, and exclusive religious and worldly authority, and the historical conflict among these three (and between their claims and the equally absolutist and absurd claims of other and atheistic or non-religious systems, such as communism, democratic capitalism, and technological scientism) has now become the basis for idealistic State politics and political conflicts all over the world. And the seemingly more important or esoteric matters of spiritual wisdom, mystical knowledge, and the magical power of sainthood or Adeptship are as much in doubt and disrepute in the common religious circles of theism as they are in scientific and atheistic circles.” Pages 82-83 “Nirvanasara”, Da Free John, 1982

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 10:27AM

"Da Free John?" No doubt a highly distinguised theologian.

What does "egoic" mean?

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 10:32AM

You really don't know what egoic means?

Do you know the word, "ego"?

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 12:19PM

Yeah, I even know "egoistic," "egotistic," and other words that use "ego" as their root.

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 10:41AM

Here's an analogy for you--

There is the accomplished player, say Michael Jordan, and there is the critic, who hasn't played basketball for years.

Da Free John is a God Realizer, and theologians are mere critics.

In short, there are doers and talkers about doing.

Who CARES what the latter SAY?

Bill8472| 11.7.12 @ 12:20PM

A God Realizer, wow.

I take it all back.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 8:15PM

You have little or no education and/or no understanding of philosophy if you think De Free is important or knows what he is talking about. He, and you are historical and religious ignoramuses.

AliL| 11.7.12 @ 10:33AM

I could not agree more. It's all over now. Obamacare alone guarantees that. There's no going back. For the first time in my life, instead of crying about not having children, I'm on my knees thanking God I can't have them.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 12:38PM

Yes, these people have voted for their own misery and suffering obama's socialist policies will bring. Obama has one goal - POWER, he has no concern or compassion for those that stand in his way. He is EVIL, a marxist thru and thru.

scotchieguy| 11.7.12 @ 10:42AM

Mr. McCain.

Thanks for the comforting words. I thought you hit it out of the park with your trashing of that fatso fraud from NJ, but you outdid yourself with the last paragraph saying, "if four years of endless failure have not rid them (the electorate) of this madness, the disease may well be terminal."

Yes, how true. We are living in truly sick times where the inmates are finally and permanently in charge. I fear it is going to go downhill in a hurry now.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 11:10AM

There is something really funny going one. Is it really possible that LESS Republicans voted for Romney this election than voted for the uninspiring McCain in 2008. Is this possible?

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 11:52AM

... ah, here comes the "voter fraud" refrain.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:45PM

No, but it is instead the DUMBARS AMERICANS REFRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

RCV| 11.7.12 @ 3:53PM

Sorry you had a bad night last evening, Oldfarte.

Kingofthenet| 11.7.12 @ 11:10AM

I don't usually listen to the Conservative windbags on TV and Radio, but I will be today, I think Rush and Hannity will be eating well...Crow served Ice Cold!

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:03PM

No one can top the crap fed to you by the progressive/ marxists at MSNBC, NBC, or CNN.

Right_is_Wrong| 11.7.12 @ 2:05PM

Two words, dimwit: Nate Silver. The facts do not have a party affiliation. And hate-spewing, hallucinatory, ignoramuses do not recognize the truth of facts. If the shoe fits, eat it. Get some learnin' or get a life.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:13PM

No AH....but we'll all be eating excrement out of garbage cans within two years!!!!!!!

MelvinNC| 11.7.12 @ 11:16AM

Obama didn't even wait 24 hours. Heres the byline from Bloomberg, "Obama May Levy Carbon Tax to Cut the U.S. Deficit, HSBC Says
By Mathew Carr - Nov 7, 2012 5:31 AM GMT-0500"

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 11:26AM

I'm sure the GOP establishment is perfectly content right now. The loser they chose lost. Maybe the Ron Paul contingent will be treated a little better at the 2016 Republican convention. Naaaahh...

Vic| 11.7.12 @ 11:48AM

The GOP establishment told us to go for this pro-abortion at heart, arrogant, so called business guy who can't crunch numbers as our only chance to unseat Obozo. Choosing this turncoat, believes in nothing, mormonic moron over the upright Santorum and charismatic though flawed Gingrich was the biggest mistake. I hope we had followed our gut. What worse could have happened except for losing. At least we would have been true to our principles. And let me stick my neck out and say this loud "They would have won handily"!

Gary B| 11.7.12 @ 1:38PM

As evidence, look at conservative winners around the states. Conservatism wins every time it's tried. The Republican Party ought to try it sometime.

Who Knows?| 11.7.12 @ 11:31AM

It feels like 1996, to me, all over again. Even worse, actually.

At least when Dole was the GOP choice to try to unseat Slick Willie, we all knew early on he didn’t have a chance.

Even then, however, those of us in the know about Clinton, led by the coverage of American Spectator Magazine, had to ultimately realize it was all about the foolish people who voted for him, and their masters, the MSM. Yes, dumbing down has been an ongoing project for the left, forever.

In 2012, though, with a tsunami of polling to buttress our interest, many of us on the right went from thinking Romney had a chance, to believing he could, and then that he WOULD, win. So, with the “legal” election AGAIN of The One, all that’s left for us “legal” losers is to suffer, both for ourselves, and for the country.

If 2008 was a disaster, as Thomas Sowell called the election of Obama, well---what about disaster to the disastrous power?

Strike when the iron is hot!

That’ll be Obama’s “fire in the belly” attitude, for the next LONG four years.

We’ll soon enough see more flexibility than we ever thought possible.

Obama unchained!

Seek| 11.7.12 @ 11:38AM

Gelatinous? I love it. As far as a future is concerned, New Jersey Governor Chris Krispy Kreme is toast.

Vic| 11.7.12 @ 11:58AM

Dont blame fatty for this. The mormonic moron is the one to blame. Goofball couldn't motivate evangilicals to come out in full force. Hell, he couldn't even crunch numbers better than the guy who never so much knew what a private sector job looks like

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 11:40AM

Medicare will become worthless, as Welfarecare and Medicaid will completely replace it with all of the government funding of the former being [wealth] transferred to the latter. The government's defecit/debt will triple etc [the USA already is in worse financial shape than Greece, Italy etc], the Chinese will stop buying our debt and sell some of what they now own The interest rates in this country will skyrocket from this and Bernanke's printing press of dollars to fund Obama's welfare. The US military will become futuristically non-existent as military people will refuse to re-enlist [already the military brass is disgusted over the Benghazi situation]. The extremely financially-wealthy individuals of this country will either physically leave this nation or export their wealth to financial safe-havens to avoid the upcoming increases in taxiation. This country is now officially being controlled by Hollywood [Harvey Weinstein, Stephen Spielberg etc], the labor unions [RichardTrumpka etc], and especially the public unions which control each/every local, state and the national government's employees [especially public school teachers]. Public education will continue to indoctrinate and propagandize your children and grandchildren with liberalism and radical rules [ie Cloward & Piven, the priority of the Muslim religion and Sharia Law, etc].

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 11:41AM

Your government will continue its war on Christian religion, mandating homosexual marriage, abortions and the like. Hollywood will continue to crank out subliminal messaging within its movies and TV programs so as to further brainwash you and your children/grandchildren as to their agendas. The United States of America has at the most maybe two more years of existence left before it becomes the next Cuba or Mexico. Again, congratualations to the radicals/liberals here as you and yours are now permanently in charge of this country's future direction to Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seek| 11.7.12 @ 11:45AM

A bit paranoid, aren't we?

The real issue, by far, is immigration policy and pandering to nonwhites. We have been importing people to our country who are natural Democrats. And then we pretend they can be our friends if only we "reached out" to them.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 12:45PM

Who are you still trying to scare?

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 2:48PM

FO, AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 2:51PM

PS: I've had a belly full of AHs like you for most of my 66 years on this earth, and don't need or want your BS today or ever again. You and your cretins WON THE GD ELECTIONS SO TAKE YOU ILLBEGOTTEN VICTORY AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DONE SHINE!!!!!!!!

JoeyG| 11.7.12 @ 11:48AM

You said what so many of us feel today. I'm sick today and I fear that our nation will never recover from this mess. The "coalition of the ignorant" may eventually realize that they've set us on a course of destruction -- or maybe they won't. Anyone ignorant enough to vote for Obama after all that he's done is truly beyond hope. I always try to accept reality but this reality is far too painful for me to imagine. I feel in my heart that we're witnessing the end of our greatness. Maybe it was destined all along. I'm just sad.

MarshallH| 11.7.12 @ 11:51AM

Can't help but to think of Chicken Little when reading this article..still promoting fear and being scary in defeat..searching for scapegoats in defeat..Its really simple, republicans just can't or don't want to face it . This great country doesn't agree with what TODAY's republican party. Blame it on your parties inability to change with times. This was the last attempt by to regain power by an out of touch party that doesn't share the views of a majority of America. I for one couldn't be happier.

squalis| 11.7.12 @ 1:01PM

And what is that majority view? I will tell you; I am entitled to the proceeds of your effort.

Rush had it right today, essentially saying the majority, faced with a choice of voting for Santa Claus or being personally responsible, chose Santa Claus.

MarshallH| 11.7.12 @ 1:24PM

Thank You.Your following of words of Rush Limbaugh proves my point. Talking points such as "personally responsible", "wanting handouts" is so far from the truth, but the republican party is so stuck on their ways that they don't see that its their rhetoric of hate and inaccurate views that is pushing people away from their "cause." All which is fine by me. I'll give the Republicans one thing though. You guys have done an excellent job of self destruction

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:13PM

It is the truth, but progressive/liberals just don't get it. We have had 50 years of your so-called "great society" BS, diversity BS, affirmative action, and other social BS. What has this accomplished - NOTHING. Generation after generation of the same families live off welfare and food stamps.

Conservatives have worked hard to take care of themselves, if you call success, intelligence, and wealth self-destructon, so be it. Better than being a slave of big government. What will you do when obama drives those that produce out of the country?

MarshallH| 11.7.12 @ 2:44PM

Oh we get it. Reelected President Obama and took some seats in the Senate while we were at it too. Where did I say "great society?" You prove my point that republicans are out of touch if diversity is BS. Nothing accomplished? More minorities than ever are receiving higher education or becoming skilled in trades to make a decent living. Generation after generation on welfare and food stamps?If I stated I wonder what demographic has the most people on welfare and food stamps that you write of, that wouldn't be fair. That just shows your mindset of who the people who voted for President Obama are which is unfortunate .Party of "success, intelligence, and wealth" doesn't even deserve a response. That is truly a delusional comment. "Those that produce" really did a mass exit out of the country the last for years. But to answer your question I'm just going to continue to do what i have always did. Work hard and do good on others and I will be fine.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:03PM

Your command of the English language proves my points above!!!!!!!!!

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:13PM

What Rush had today was too many oxy. We voted for a leader with a plan for our future. We voted for progress and scientific reason. We voted against you, and I couldn't be happier.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:26PM

Would you mind, terribly, sharing the details of that plan with the rest of us?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 8:35PM

Keep watching. Unlike Romney, it's not an academic affair. You'll actually get to see it in action!

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 4:03AM

Expanding Debt is not progress. Printing money is not progress. Expanding government and regulations is not progress. Wind and solar at the expense of energy independence is not scientific or reasonable. Calling BO a leader with a plan is the definition of oxymoron. You couldn't be happier? you just proved you are a fool.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 1:24PM

As one who believes in our system and who believes in our democratic republic, I will abide by the will of the people, but I don't understand what you are so happy about.

The debt is 16 trillion dollars, the annual deficit is well in exess of a trillion dollars, unemployment has been higher than or roughly equal to eight percent for four years, the economy is barely growing, Medicare and Social Security are going bankrupt, and President Obama has not submitted a plan to fix any of this.

Really and seriously, what are you happy about?

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 2:17PM

Paul, you don't seriously expect a reasoned answer to your question, do you?

MarshallH| 11.7.12 @ 3:07PM

I'm happy that the country reelected a president that share views and concerns of many Americans. Do I agree with everything he stands for? Absolutely not, but I believe his intentions and ideas for America are good and better than his former opponent. The economy is improving. Is it great? No. What is wrong with having an economy that is rebounding given the condition it was in due to spending, tax cuts, outsourcing, etc. Why would one think that through a recession here and economic meltdowns in Europe, that things would turn around over night? I'm not one to put all the blame on former President Bush for state of economy.He definitely did his part, but President Obama made decisions I didn't agree with also. However, he did what he believed was best to get the country back on right track. Stock market is up and unemployment is decreasing. Things are going in the right direction and the country reelected a President who I feel is making tough decisions regardless of how popular they are to lead us towards continued improvement. That's why I'm happy.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 3:13PM

The stock market is up only because the fed is printing money at the rate of 20 billion a month. The economy is not improving. Growth has decreased every year Obama has been in office. Unemployment has improved somewhat, but if you can tell me how Obama has done so, I'd be glad to know.

You did not comment on the debt or the impending collapse of Medicare and Social Security.

MarshallH| 11.7.12 @ 4:00PM

Can't even have decent conversation with people without inaccurate facts being thrown out. The "growth rate has decreased every year Obama has been in office?" The US hasn't had a negative growth rate since the second quarter of 2009. Which happened to be during the recession. No need to lie and make such a false statement. Every quarter since then it has grown so you are completely wrong. I attribute unemployment to conditions in our country improving, not just the President. However, he played a major role in improving the county. As far as Medicare he has already proposed cost cutting measures derived from bipartisan groups to reduce deficit as well as cost cutting outlined in new health care law. And for S.S he has proposed steps to account for annual benefit increases and inflation which will help the programs continue to function.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 5:22PM

I did not say that the growth rate is negative, I said that the growth rate has decreased. In the fourth quarter of 2011 the GDP grew at 4.1%. After that, it was 2 % in the first quarter of 2012, 1.3% in the second quarter, and 2% in the third quarter, a figure which will probably be revised downward. Following the recession, which Obama inherited, growth has exceeded 4% twice, and has not exceeded 3% in any other quarter. And, as mentioned, the last two quarters have been pathetic. Growth for the entire administration has been pathetic.

Your comments regarding social security and Medicare are simply not based in any reality. I have no idea what you might be talking about.

MarshallH| 11.8.12 @ 9:50AM

The growth rate is not always going to exceed the previous years growth even in the best economic conditions. That's just common since. Each year is not going to be better than the previous year. In the three years prior to the recession, growth rate went from 3% to 2% to 1%. Its not always going to be the best of times. Period. Economy has steadily improved under President Obama and will continue. My comments on Medicare and S.S are a reality. Its documented. National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform which was formed by the President, released proposals which dealt with issues on spending, tax cuts, Medicare, Social Security as well as other issues. Research doesn't hurt.

Pelleas| 11.7.12 @ 12:07PM

What a bunch of friggin CRY-BABIES...!!

WE WON...!!

YOU LOST...!!

..GET OVER IT....!!!

HA HAHA HA HA..!!!

: )

Gerald| 11.7.12 @ 12:43PM

What until you see what your prize is your asshole.

I love when ignorant people celebrate their own demise. HAHAHAHAHA

wrongheifer| 11.7.12 @ 12:55PM

Thank you Gerald...They've made their bed...now they must lie in it...with Obama.

Pelleas| 11.7.12 @ 3:05PM

I'd rather be in bed with Obama--ANYDAY..

..THEN WITH ANY REPUG ELEPHANT..

Stilton A. Cheese| 11.7.12 @ 1:01PM

Got a Republican Governor and State Legislature in North Carolina for the first time since around 1880 so there is a decided Zippity-Do-Dah in *my* daily walk.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:15PM

And they're welcome to run North Carolina into the ground. The federal government will be here to help when you need it.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 4:27AM

The Fed gov is dependent on tax dollars. Taking fed "help" is like taking a bucket of water out of one end of a swimming pool and dumping it in the other end. It accomplishes nothing, no growth, no profit, just spillage and time =loss. You are the typical product of public education, ignorance.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:34PM

bend over obama has a chocolate surprise for you

Pelleas| 11.7.12 @ 3:07PM

I LOVE chocolate--and I LOVE surprises...

YOU, on the OTHER HAND, are a scumbag RACIST

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 3:18PM

I'll bet you do.

Pelleas| 11.7.12 @ 3:38PM

Sure do--- so does your wife, I hear....

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:11PM

"GET OVER IT" ? That is just the problem AH.......that will not be possible [and you'll never contemplate why until its too late]!!!!!

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 12:28PM

" The cretins and dimwits have become an effective governing majority, and the question for conservatives at this point is perhaps not, "What does it mean?" but rather, "Why should we bother ourselves resisting it any longer?"

With this attitude about at least one half of your fellow citizens, you will no doubt continue to lose.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 12:35PM

People that are cradle to grave welfare bums or illegal immigrants should have no right to vote. When you don't contribute to the system, of course you will support a bum like obama that promises you welfare checks, free health care, food stamps, free phones, free everything. It is easy to vote to spend other people's money when you contribute nothing. Our present voting system is broken.

Mike in N.C.| 11.7.12 @ 12:45PM

As long as enough people in the GOP continue to hold your distorted view of the United States, the GOP will continue to lose.

Purp| 11.7.12 @ 12:51PM

Exactly, those who will not learn, will suffer.
And, they call others "stupid"?

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 12:56PM

You are stupid. obama has one goal - POWER, all of you that voted for him are just worthless pieces of dirt to step on to gain that power. You cannot see EVIL and its right before your eyes. Did you ever read or listen to his speeches before he became president, obviously you did not. That makes you clueless and stupid.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 10:06PM

It is said that TO THE VICTOR BELONG THE SPOILS.......so enjoy your "spoils" as you're THELMA&LOUISE;'ING off of the cliff in the next two years, okay?????

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:00PM

Your progressive/socialist view of the United States is the distorted one. When more than half of a nation is unproductive and dependent on handouts (TAKERS) and only a few are hardworking and productive (GIVERS) the system FAILS. Have you not noticed what is happening to the socialist EU countries? Obviously, you have not.

Ermengrabby| 11.7.12 @ 12:52PM

About sums up how I am feeling today. Good luck, America. We are going to need it.

wrongheifer| 11.7.12 @ 12:53PM

I cannot stop weeping for the sheer ignorance of the facts...or for the lack of truth...The suffering will begin in earnest now.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 1:11PM

One thing I know for sure obama is not the president for myself or millions of true Americans. He is only the leader of those unproductive and enslaved fools kissing his feet so he tosses them a few crumbs so they don't have to work for a living. He considers himself an elitist, the 1%, and he uses these fools that voted for him for one reason -- POWER.

DandyLion| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM

Hilarious!

Simon Templar| 11.7.12 @ 1:18PM

To the RCV and other useful trolling liberal idiots.

I never claimed Romney would win and let Tyrrell have it when he claimed it would happen in a landslide and the rest of the hooey that he has been shoveling. I predicted this loss over 7 months ago...screamed about the disunity in the GOP primary and their inability to control their message and well as image, saw their blatant attempts to make damn sure a conservative would not win, and warned them that playing safe and not dealing with the media would ensure loss.
My issue has always been about this ridiculous polling and predictions and media manipulation and potential fraud on both sides. Nothing made sense. I said two days ago all I want to know is the truth. How can 50 years of fundamentals touted both by democrats and repubs no longer be correct? How can internal polls say one thing and the overall say something quite different?

Simon Templar| 11.7.12 @ 1:19PM

I care less about these elections then I do about the war you have been effectively waging in misleading and dumbing down the electorate. These elections are only symptoms of that effort.
Yes, you filthy commies will not be satisfied until you create a world where no one can have a different view or opinion without your permission. You won, so have a tiny bit of class and do not expect others to get over with it and shut up. Try developing some original liberal talking points and rhetoric other than repeating conservative ones back at them. Preserve the union, that was rich.
I am saying this for the record and not so much in giving you the time of day, let alone taking you seriously.

DRed| 11.7.12 @ 1:38PM

What do you think would dumb a person down more, Simon? Reading Nate Silver, who created a rigorous mathematical model to predict the election, spent months explaining how his model worked and what it predicted, or watching Dick Morris lie his fat face off on Fox News about the upcoming Romney landslide victory? Why aren't you angrier about being so badly served by your media? They wasted hours of your time lying and distracting you with issues the vast majority of the country don't care about. Shouldn't that bother you a little bit?

John II| 11.7.12 @ 2:07PM

They didn't waste a minute of my time, DReddie, because I never pay attention to polls and prognosticators. Myself, I'm bothered a bit more than a little bit by something deeper.

Here's Edmund Burke reflecting on the French Revolution, template of the modern Left:

"Political power is not a license to rebuild society according to some abstract, untested scheme; it is a trust to be held by those who are mindful of both the value of what they have inherited and of their duties to their inheritors."

The Professor's take on political power, of course, is the licentious sort, as symbolically represented by the tasteless Denham ad. He has no concept of, no interest in the other take. Among his countless lies in office so far, the supreme whopper was "I am not an ideologue."

There is no more accurate poll possible than a general election, and yesterday we learned that America is now divided almost evenly between the productive doers and the amoral takers.

To use the buzzword-of-the-hour favored by the puppetmasters of the takers, America is now in an unsustainable bind, controlled by the passions of the mob. Romney's 47% remark last May, it turns out, was an understatement. The figure is closer to 51%.

DRed| 11.7.12 @ 2:18PM

I suppose it doesn't surprise me to hear that you pay no attention to polling, professor, because it doesn't seem you have any interest in empirical evidence. There's nothing in Obama's political career that would show him to be the radical leftist ideologue he is your fantasy world.

John II| 11.7.12 @ 6:27PM

"There's nothing in Obama's political career that would show him to be the radical leftist ideologue he is [in] your fantasy world."

What an odd remark to sputter. But I offer it as a piece of empirical evidence that the real contempt for empirical evidence is yours, DReddie, and that (here comes the psychology again) you're projecting.

The cartloads of empirical evidence stuffed in the several books exposing your fraudulent hero reduce your statement to an absurdity of a magnitude that blots out the merely fantastic. Fantasy, after all, is a purposeful form of literature.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 7:44PM

Comrade Dred
You are either unaware of do not care of the empirical evidence that O is a radical lefitst ideaogue. His mentors are Rev Wright, an anti semitic,anti american loon, and Billy Ayers, a terrorist who should be in jail, and Marshall, the commie professor. Does "spreading the wealth around" sound familiar to you?

DRed| 11.7.12 @ 9:11PM

See, there you all go again. No specific policy critique. Bill Ayers! Frank Marshall! Guess what-the American public doesn't care. They saw what Obama actually did as President, and what they saw wasn't a radical ideologue.

ps

It's Dunham, Don Juan.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 10:00PM

Comrade Dred
You are right to the extent that the 50% who voted for O do not care, as you do not care. But at least you know it and try to minimize it by saying so what. There is not enough space here for a specific policy critique. If you were interested there are numerous articles and books that Google will supply to you, but you do not care, so why bother, right?

DRed| 11.7.12 @ 10:51PM

Nobody cares that Obama was in Bill Ayers' house once because he doesn't govern like a radical leftist.

John II| 11.7.12 @ 11:34PM

You say that Obama visited Ayers only once because Ayers doesn't govern like a radical leftist?

As TLP would say, I don't get it.

Anyhow, thanks for the correction. Sometimes I hit the e-key instead of the u-key because of my arthritis. According to empirical studies of keyboard punching, the e-key tends to be a default mode for mistypes. It's all very strange. But then, what isn't?

By the way, is "Nobody cares . . ." a standard empirical formula?

DRed| 11.7.12 @ 11:53PM

ha. You're the best, professor. You always are there to keep me on my toes.

As a wise man once told me, there's no poll more accurate than a general election. Perhaps the majority of Americans are actually radical leftists and that's why they weren't outraged that Obama met Frank Marshall Davis once or twice a year when he was a kid. But I'm sure you have a book that will tell me otherwise. Is it one written by Dinesh D'Souza, or has he been removed from the JII library after his adventures in adultery at the Christian values conference?

John II| 11.8.12 @ 12:32AM

Oh yeah, I've got a million books. Actually, empirically speaking, I have 7,223 books altogether, at home and in my office. (I know this empirical datum because I counted them this past summer when I had to move to another building on campus. When you think of it, it's not all that many: a 60-year accumulation.)

Anyhow, the particular books I was thinking about include, yes, D'Souza's "Obama's America."
The others are David Freddoso's "Case Against Barack Obama," Edward Klein's "The Amateur," David Limbaugh's "The Great Destroyer," Stanley Kurtz's "Radical-in-Chief," Mark Steyn's "After America," and Robert Zubrin's "Merchants of Despair."

Those, at any rate, are the one's I've read. There are several others, but I've managed only to read reviews of them, all of which indicate a plethora of empirical stuff.

I mean, I can't read everything, you know. After all, I have my career to think of.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 4:21AM

Actually, you would only have to read the book BO made 10 m on "Dreams......" to know/prove he is a radical leftist ideologue, plus his public lies about his mother's midwestern values, etc.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 8:34PM

BO's book and the facts say that Frank Marshall Davis (Uncle Frank) was his grandfather's best friend and that he mentored BO for 10 years and guided his thinking and educated him as a Marxist at his grandfather's behest. He wrote that in his book and defended various Marxists on public video no less in addition to what he wrote in his book, unless you want to stipulate that Bill Ayres wrote that book and that none of it is true, but that would undercut your contention that he only met Ayres once, which is an obvious lie as public info shows close ties, and of course, BO made 10 mill off that book that he did claim to write which clearly establishes his relationship to Davis and marxism and socialism. The MSM glossed over the truth and 1/2 the voters turned a blind eye to the obvious. As I have heard from a number of the leftist gloating voters, what does it matter that BO is a communist-who cares-McCarthy is dead isn't he? They forget that Robert Kennedy was the power behind the anti communist movement. You are all products of a failed public school system-propanganda rules....

Rockabilly| 11.8.12 @ 12:08AM

No. putting one third of the economy with Obamacare is not pure socialism but it's the next best thing, and the aim is to eventually have a Canadian system after this fiasco fails. No O is not a pure socialist but he favors crony capitalism where brilliant government bureaucrats "guide" the private sector like GM and Solandra and political supporters. Like O screwed preferred creditors and the bankruptcy law with his bastardized political bankruptcy favoring labor unions. His contempt for the rule of law is reflected in his issuing rules under the EPA, immigration, and energy beyond the purview of the law. The structure of the health care law is such that Congressional oversight is a joke. Yes, the man does have socialist aspirations and even bemoans that our system, unlike China's, is cumbersome. You libs crave freedom to abort, to have condoms, to rant obscenities in public, but don't give a rat's ass about economic freedom and the right to be left the Hell alone.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 4:39AM

They didn't see the truth. They didn't see the violations of the Constitution, (EO and refusal to enforce valid laws and violation of other laws) they didn't see the illegal use of bailout funds for GM or the loss of nonunion jobs and pensions in favor of unions, the packing of the NLRB to force unionization, the embedding in the exec branch of Marxists, Obamacare, hatred of energy independence, refusal to allow drilling, and that is just for starters. All are leftist, radical agenda, plus trying to sell us out to the UN and eviscerating our Constitutional rights.

handsoff| 11.8.12 @ 4:14AM

Read his books. He is a leftist, marxist, radical ideologue. How about the people he surrounds himself with, the people he admires? Frank Marshall Davis, communist-Valerie Jarrett socialist/communist family and training, David Axelrod, mentored by Marxists, Bill Ayres, radical leftist, Rev Wright anti american black nationalist. Cass S. who thinks americans are Homer Simpson and need to be regulated to do what liberals want them to (he has apparently succeeded) You should be offended, but you don't even know how you have been programmed, you poor, deluded soul. I hope you still have a soul. Use it and see the truth.

Davis white| 11.7.12 @ 1:34PM

Would you care to reprise your comments on Nate Silver and bias? For the third election, he gave correct odds for every Republican victory, plus one (ND Senate.) You attitude reflects the conservative war on math, science, and truth. If reality doesn't comport to your worldview, screw reality.

The only bias is yours. Have a good morning.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 8:38PM

Perception is not reality. There is a socialist war on math, science and truth, has been since before Dewey and Sanger. You just got it backwards. Your perception is not reality. The only bias is yours.

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.7.12 @ 1:38PM

The truth of the matter is the GOP can only blame themselves. The neo-cons in the George W. Bush administration devastated this economy and embroiled us in two wars that ran up our national debt faster than Paris Hilton runs up a credit card. Ever since the Reagan administration this idea of "Trick Down Prosperity" has been at the forefront of American Economic policy and resulted in the complete deregulation of Wall Street as well as the complete embrace of globalist free trade that has sold the American working class down the river and shipped millions of decent paying American manufacturing jobs overseas. The current legacy of the Republican Party is Banksters Gone Wild and Endless Wars that benefit firms like Cheney's Halliburton.

I am not making the claim that Obama is some "Great Alternative", but given the recent track record of the GOP and the fact tht they are unapologetic about that track record leaves no doubt in my mind as to WHY ROMNEY LOST AND OBAMA WON THIS ELECTION.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:06PM

Mllions of decent American jobs went overseas because of union greed and unwillingness to compromise with their employers. I see you conveniently left out that obama has run up more debt in four years than all the other presidents combined. I hope you enjoy four more years of his reign of destruction? Didn't you bother to read his writings or speeches he made before becoming president? His goal is to downsize America because he and his wife believe America's military and economic power has caused all the problems in the world. We have military that is weaker than anytime in recent history and we have had 8.0% unemployment for almost four years despite massive spending. Do you think this happened by accident? Get a clue, it is a planned result of his marxist agenda. Now, you and others have given him four more years to do more of the same.

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.7.12 @ 5:50PM

That's bullshit. They went overseas because of corporate greed...PERIOD. I am not an Obama supporter and as I said in another post I didn't vote for him the other night and I have no illusions about Romney being any less destructive.
We don't need a bigger American Empire we need to reign in the Empire as the great American Conservative Pat Buchanan has said our nation is meant to be a Republic, not an Empire and these wars that Bush got us into have put us in more debt than all of the government welfare programs combined since 2001.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:32PM

Dimitry, and just what should Bush's reaction to 9/11 have been? If you attack this country and kill 3,000 + innocent people you are going to get a war. Is it your contention that we should have pursued them in a court of law?

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.8.12 @ 12:16PM

Killing Bin Laden (back in 2001 or 2002) and the rest of those who had plotted, financed and carried out those attacks would have been better than plunging us into two wars with no exit strategy. Especially the war in Iraq when Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and Afghanistan has long been called the "Graveyard of Empires". The Afghan War sunk the Soviet Union.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:12PM

Hey, if we compromised like the Chinese worker, we could probably bring a lot of those jobs back. You okay with earning 5 cents an hour?

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.8.12 @ 12:19PM

Globalist capitalism is shit. It only exists to make the rich richer and keep the rest of us poor. Economic nationalism is the road we should follow combined with a strong American labor movement. In the 1950's the American worker was the most unionized and best paid in the world and to many conservatives the 1950's were considered our golden years.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:43PM

"has sold the American working class down the river and shipped millions of decent paying American manufacturing jobs overseas"? Hey DumbArs, can you spell.......LABOR UNIONS [and their excess wage rates]????????????

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.7.12 @ 5:52PM

That's international corporate bullshit. That's Fox News propaganda. That's what that is. Paying a worker a just wage for a days work has not sunk the American economy.

DandyLion| 11.7.12 @ 1:45PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....le/264855/

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 2:01PM

For all of us, including those of you who voted for Obama, your life is going to become more difficult. For one thing, your taxes are going to go up. Not just for those who are making 200 or 250K a year, as Obama promised, but everybody. There are dozens of these taxes built into Obamacare and they were not scheduled to go into effect until 2013. You're about to find this out the hard way, in a mere two months.

The dollar will continue to erode, reducing your buying power. Inflation will continue to rise, despite the Obama administration's claims ot the contrary. If you don't believe me, go to a grocery store, for Christ's sake.

Getting efficient health care will become more difficult. Thousands of doctors are going to hang it up, as so many promised they would do if Obama were to be re-elected. Oh yeah, sure, you'll have insurance, but efficent and effective health care will decline significantly.

You asked for it, you got it.

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.7.12 @ 2:04PM

That may be true but American wages have eroded so much after 3 decades of Republican endorsed "Trickle Down Economics" that I doubt the average American will notice.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 2:23PM

Pablum.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:33PM

dream on -- people like us that work to support people like you will notice.

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.7.12 @ 5:40PM

I work hard for my paychecks. I make money for the company I work for. You don't support me one bit.

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:40PM

Is DA short for dumbars? Those "3 decades of Republican..." were actually the most financially prosperous of our nation's history, except for the DA's like yourself who are/were too stupid to take financial advantage of same. Oh and as to the actual cause of our present economic malise, try researching the CRA OF 1977 which the GD Democrats legislated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.7.12 @ 5:45PM

Financially prosperous for who Oldefarte?! For who Oldefarte?! All the Middle Class/Working Class people I know have been losing ground over the last three decades while the thieves on Wall Street have been raking it in. Also I'm not a Democrat. I voted for George W. Bush twice...my mistake voting for that guy. I wrote in Ron Paul and voted a nearly straight Republican ticket in 2008 and got more of the same. It's only in this election when the Republican Party made it abundantly clear that union members like me are not only not welcome in their party but I'm their enemy and they've declared war on workers rights to collective bargaining that I voted a straight Democrat ticket for the first time in my life. I wrote in Ron Paul again for President, but other than that I held my nose and voted straight Democrat because I cannot stand the Republican Party anymore and they are the ENEMY of WORKING CLASS PEOPLE LIKE ME.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 8:47PM

Bull Dimitry . Wages have only eroded, if at all, because of money printing and inflation. Unions have not suffered, in fact, government pro-union policies have caused the middle class and poor to suffer with ever higher prices and job losses, etc. The Dems have been in power for most of the last 3 decades and there have been some policies that have destroyed the current economy, like the Community development department, Clinton's expansion of that program and his deregulation of banks and the policies which led to the bankruptcies of FannieMae&FreddieMac;, Sarbanes--Oxley, Dodd-Frank, Obamacare... You are way too simplistic and ignorant of history and economics or you wouldn't say that.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 2:04PM

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation." Vladimir Lenin.

You asked for it, you got it.

owend| 11.7.12 @ 2:09PM

This mirrors my feelings exactly. I posted on another site, that now its truly a matter of turning inward and taking care of ourselves. Positioning our families and our personal finances so that we may be better prepared for what is to come. There are many things that I fear now. But, I for one, am going to focus on my family and my own quest to become financially independent. I do have a plan and now its time to focus on it.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 2:28PM

You are correctly focused, owend. Things are going to be very, very difficult economically and that will spawn very dangerous times. Take care of your family, as I will mine, and make the best of it. I'm not sure Orwell, himself, could have envisioned the dystopian future we've given our children and grandchildren.

Ronald54321| 11.7.12 @ 2:12PM

The country has been over with ever since the hippie movement became America's mainstream culture.

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 2:18PM

What's going to happen to me? I know this, and I've known if for years. I'm going to be driving my little tin can car which gets 55 miles a gallon in order to go to the black market to buy a light bulb, and I am going to be struck by my state senator's bullet-proof limousine passing me at ninety miles an hour, and I am going to be greviously injured.

Despite the fact that I have my government insurance card and despite the fact that I show it to the government bureaucrat at the government owned medical center, I will lie in pain for eight hours on the government owned gurney before finally passing away. A government employed janitor will rifle through my wallet and find my government cash and put it in the pocket of his government owned uniform without telling anyone that I am lying there dead.

A couple of days later a government official will contact my wife and tell her that I have expired and that I have already been cremated in the government crematorium, but there will be no charge to her as it is covered by Obamacare.

Kingofthenet| 11.7.12 @ 4:25PM

You get a FREE Funeral and your complaining?

Bob Grant| 11.7.12 @ 5:25PM

King,

You DO know the janitor reference was a thinly-veiled reference to you?

Paul McGrath| 11.7.12 @ 6:37PM

Sorry Bob. If I was actually referring to King, I would not have referred to him as a "janitor," I would have referred to him as a "racist janitor," based on his sickening comments about Michelle Malkin.

djn1313| 11.7.12 @ 2:32PM

Our corrupt progressive/liberal controlled educational system and media has been so successful in dumbing down unproductive Americans that in 2016 when obama doubles unemployment to 16% and doubles the deficit to $32 billion they will ask for four more years of even higher joblessness numbers and living costs. They used high unemployment and skyrocketing living costs as the reason they re-elected obama. Can these people get any dumber?

Commander Kelly | 11.7.12 @ 2:50PM

"Full Reverse" only here...http://americanconservativeinlondon.blogspot.co.uk/

EBL | 11.7.12 @ 2:51PM

Thank you for your hard work Stacy, unfortunately I think we lost do to ignorance...

Mazzuchelli| 11.7.12 @ 2:54PM

I plan to circle the wagons, which is tough for a materialist such as I. But I will make it happen. While I can't stiff my salon, since both the gals are 'Pubs, I can start buying product off Amazon. No new vehicle. Back off completely on the shoes and bags. Even though few and far between since the "W" campaigns, no more movies, period. Any sign of liberalism on the part of a business, no business will transpire. I haven't worked my ass off for 41 years to go down without a fight. Game on, shit moochers!

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 3:24PM

As TLP would say, "I know you're a hottie!". You're right, Mazz, it IS game on with the shit moochers and they're in for a hell of a fight.

Jack London| 11.7.12 @ 3:03PM

Just thought I'd drop in and wish you all a nice day.

The funny thing is that some of you still think you could have won with a real far right candidate. As white middle aged men, most of you will live long enough to know that it won't happen.

PolishKnight| 11.7.12 @ 3:27PM

Hahaha! Jack, the great white hope, so to speak, for the left is to make the USA and the world into Sweden. Now what people live there?!?!

Most of the leftist elite are white and live in segregated neighborhoods. Even Obama and his racist minister live in mostly white areas. While the electorate of the left is mostly non-white, it still is only a fraction of the US's population.

On the contrary, if Republicans address the left's race entitlements system, white males will show up to vote and I think many honest non-whites will agree that white males are entitled to civil rights. For now, the right hasn't even addressed the issue seriously. But if they run ads addressing leftist race entitlements, things will heat up. I look forward to it. Bring it on!

Jack London| 11.7.12 @ 3:56PM

"But if they run ads addressing leftist race entitlements, things will heat up. I look forward to it. Bring it on!"

Yeah, that'll work. I look forward to it too.

PolishKnight| 11.7.12 @ 4:47PM

It's astounding. Look at all the stuff the left has gotten a total free pass on: Black on white crime at a ratio of 5:1 (even 10:1) yet "hate crimes" only defined as white on non-white crime. Preferential treatment in universities even as they claim it's stopped in some states (it really hasn't. They just don't use actual numerical quotas.)

And the mother lode is feminism and the so-called wage gap. Women earn less than men because of something silly where women insist that men live up to 1950's breadwinner standards and women quit their jobs or work part-time. Works great until the supply of such men dry up. Conservative men are the guys who save their money and raise families.

Bring all of that out in debate and ads. Or the Republican party can keep hammering on gay marriage and abortion and see how that goes...

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 3:31PM

Jesus Christ Himself could not have WON [and didn't in His day, as they too HUNG HIM FROM A CROSS AT CALVARY]. Be prepared for your [and everyone's] futuristic road to our Calvary from this!!!!

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 3:35PM

So you're admitting the USA is drifting towards socialism? We couldn't win with a leftist moderate. That seems clear doesn't it? And you seem happy. Maybe you're just a racist with a made up name. Your name sounds awfully middle-aged white to me.

Jack London| 11.7.12 @ 3:59PM

Who said anything about socialism? It is crystal clear that when Mitt started to distance himself from you far right freaks he picked up momentum. But it was too late.

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 4:09PM

Go re-read your post. It was implied. We can't win with a moderate, let alone with a far right guy (that would be like JFK in today's terms). You know, freaks.

Jack London| 11.7.12 @ 4:28PM

Well so you are saying you can't win at all. I'd say that's right with the current center ground Dems (they are hardly left wing - Obamacare for example was the GOP's idea, while most major social reforms of the past are bipartisan or GOP sponsored). If the Dems do move leftwards then that gives you an opening.

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 4:48PM

I'm not giving up on my country yet, although I am a middle aged white man. It's OK to hate me. I'm used to it.

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 5:48PM

Wow - paranoid much?

Oldefarte| 11.7.12 @ 10:04PM

"live long enough"? TWO YEARS is all that any of us have left until this country implodes. Have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!!!

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 3:25PM

Pulled your head out of Obamarx's ass long enough to come up for air, huh, Jack?

MelvinNC| 11.7.12 @ 3:41PM

You know something Conservatives of which there is about 40 some odd million of us. Liberals need us for one thing and one thing only.
Liberals need our money to survive, once we figure out how we can cut the umbilical cord through black marketing and other very unethical things so that our taxes are severely reduced to the federal government enough to where they're precious programs start to gasp from lack of air. Then we'll see who starts going wahhhhh.
Don't worry Liberals, Conservatives will figure out a way to make yoiu turn blue, you have been good teachers after all in how to beat the system . Thatsssss right we're going to use your own mojo against you.

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 3:46PM

Wow...just wandered on to this site. I never knew such a nest of right-wing crazy existed. Wonder if I can back out slowly or would it be better to throw a shiny object on the floor to attract attention.

But while I'm here...appealing to the lowest common denominator - stupid white people - as your main base of support in postmodern American elections doesn't really have the hallmark of success, in my humble opinion.

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 3:49PM

Another racist. I'm having trouble following your second paragraph. Sentence construction much?

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 3:59PM

No, just something folks in the hills call 'book learnin.'

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 4:10PM

You must be proud.

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 4:18PM

I am, rather.

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 4:16PM

I’ve been perusing more of what passes for commentary here. Yikes! It’s definitely true: conservatism as a political philosophy is intellectually bankrupt. I think my eyes are bleeding.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.7.12 @ 4:42PM

Why is it that every time "Anna K. from Emory U." posts early in the thread, one or more of these comments show up later in the thread?

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 4:46PM

You need to spend more time on the huffington post and msnbc, among many others. Just to get your calibration fixed.

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 4:54PM

My calibration is fine, thank-you-very-much. (And isn't it a little personal to be talking about my calibration? I mean, we've just met and all...)

But in all honesty, I do need to wander away from this site; it scares the bejeesus out of me. Neo-Nazis generally have that effect on me.

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 5:00PM

Neo-nazis! Jeez, do some research will you? You're talking about your crowd, not conservatives. And not too surprised you don't know what calibration means. Good day.

Appalled| 11.7.12 @ 5:40PM

It actually has been a good day for me, seeing all you right-wing nutjobbers in a foaming tizzy - thanks!

Ralph Novy| 11.11.12 @ 2:00AM

Oh, you probably ain't seen nothing yet, Appalled.

It can get pretty surreal.

Ralph Novy| 11.11.12 @ 2:04AM

The key to having a good time and making a contribution here is not getting sucked into any playground "your momma" stuff (at least not too much).

If you hang around, you'll discover that, at certain points, you just need to let go. The person you're attempting to dialogue with is beyond hope -- at least with respect to the point at hand.

Anyway ....

Good luck.

Rockabilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:57PM

Stupid white people built this country my dear Appalled. Of course liberal web sites NEVER go overboard with comments, only evil conservatives who riot daily, lob fire bombs, burn ACLU offices, are extreme. Get a life and go to Moveon where you belong.

Rockabilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:57PM

Stupid white people built this country my dear Appalled. Of course liberal web sites NEVER go overboard with comments, only evil conservatives who riot daily, lob fire bombs, burn ACLU offices, are extreme. Get a life and go to Moveon where you belong.

Ralph Novy| 11.11.12 @ 1:57AM

Understand your feelings, Appalled.

But don't assume it's just "stupid white people" here.

There may be some stupid dark-skinned ones too.

Bottom line: Try to stick it out and stick it to them what deserves it. Consider it humanitarian work.

Cheers.

Patrick in Michigan | 11.7.12 @ 4:26PM

We're screwed. :(

Marc Jeric| 11.7.12 @ 4:30PM

Today – November 6, 2012 – marks the end of the American unique 226-year long republican experiment. Our “liberals”, environmentalists, socialists, and communists have put the end to that noble endeavor. Our Marxist Muslim President has now won his second term, thanks to his community organizations and the union goons leading the masses to the voting precincts. In addition to the nationalization of our health care system; hospitals, doctor offices, insurance companies;, the nationalizations of the oil & gas companies, coal mines, electricity companies, transportation companies (trucking, rail, airlines, shipping), car manufacturing, will continue under the guise of the global warming hoax and Obama’s “social justice” programs.

Marc Jeric| 11.7.12 @ 4:32PM

In 2016 we will call this country of ours the United Socialist States of America – there will be no return from there. Some 60% of the population will be dependent on the government for their livelihood, thus ensuring the perpetuation of our ruling classes.

These ruling classes consist of the so-called liberals, in charge of our education system from the kindergarten to the universities, and of the communist-led government employees unions. Our university professors and their students are convinced they can do better that Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Kim Il series of dictators, Mao, and the former mass killers of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Romania, Albania, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia – the history of these victim countries completely neglected and forgotten. Our teachers unions have succeeded in the short 45 years to “educate” three generations of illiterate nincompoops who vote their “feelings” completely unaware of history, geography, philosophy, and literature.

Ball Buster| 11.7.12 @ 4:48PM

Robert, really? "To manfully endure" (a split infinitive, btw) evokes another image of rape, that of the sad Ned Beatty character in "Deliverance".

Remember. "Let me hear you squeal like a pig."

This article and many of the comments are emitting porcine-like sounds.

topcat52| 11.7.12 @ 4:57PM

I am tempted to stop reading the Spectator. This harangue is beneath any reasonable human being. Just as Obama was not able to stem the tides and heal the planet, he will not be able to destroy the United States. He will do things that will rankle and annoy, but after his four years are up, should he last that long over possible impeachment charges, he will fast fade into the dustbin of history. We have had bad presidents before, and even a president who was forced to resign, but this country has survived and it will survive Obama. Please take you blood pressure medicine, and try to return to the coherent and thoughtful pieces that I have come to expect to read here.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 6:11PM

We survived George W Bush. I think we can survive a man who is much, much smarter. In fact, I think we'll do just fine.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:40PM

Other than a Pavlovian response to Socialist drivel that, apparently, informs your opinion of him, what empirical evidence to you have relative to how smart Obamarx is? Please be kind enough to share it with the rest of us.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 8:40PM

Other than a Pavlovian response to Socialist drivel that, apparently, informs your opinion of him, what empirical evidence to you have relative to how smart Obamarx is? Please be kind enough to share it with the rest of us.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 8:50PM

Keep crying, Jack. Your tears are the sweetest nectar.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:08PM

What about an answer to my question instead of a childish comment?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:10PM

If you'd been paying attention, watching anything but Fox News, or reading a paper, you wouldn't ask such an idiotic question. By every metric, our president is a man of intelligence and accomplishment. To suggest otherwise is a pretty pathetic display of partisan blinders.

Also, waa waa.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:14PM

Which metrics are those? He is a very, very capable orator when he is reading from a teleprompter and stumbles embarrassingly when trying to speak off the cuff. The latter is typically indicative of a slow thinker, not a particularly bright one. Kind of curious about the "accomplishment" piece, too. What, exactly, ARE his accomplishments?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:27PM

There's this thing called the internet. Young people use it to find out stuff. Next time, before you vote, you should try to educate yourself about the people running. Some might see that as an important part of being a good citizen and an informed participant in the process. But if you willfully want to pretend a man as accomplished as our president is somehow unknown to you... well, that's just sad, gramps. Maybe let the people who know what's going on handle this whole election thing next time. It's clearly a little too much for you to keep in your head all at once.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 2:42AM

dmizzo "There's this thing called the internet. Young people use it to find out stuff."
There is a lot of info on the internet about BO's upbringing and associations and life that you, a self admitted young person obviously missed or ignored. I.e. his mother hated America, got pregnant at 16, he was mentored by a communist (Frank Marshall Davis), sought out marxists professors, claimed to be a Kenyan citizen, went to school as a foreign student, was a member of the socialist party and had communist associations, never held a real job (never practiced as a lawyer), was a community organizer, made 10 mill on a book (only after he got elected) he probably never wrote amongst a lot of other information very negative about BO. If none of that is true, what makes you think anything on the internet is true about anyone?

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 2:43AM

dimizzo Re his "accomplishments", he got his house in Chicago through questionable means and money from questionable sources, was elected to Harvard Law Review (he did not earn it or write any scholarly materiel), was elected Senator under questionable circumstances, hardly ever attended congress, voted for the Patriot act extension, and voted against waiving the 10% FEMA participation for Katrina victims, then 2 weeks later, after the waiver passed, spoke to a mostly black audience used a ghetto accent and said the whitey congress didn't care about blacks (katrina victims) because they didn't grant the waiver for the blacks in Katrina, just for 9/11 victims. In other words, he LIED as a Senator. He lied about his mother and insurance, he lied about his purported Kenyan father's education, he said the US had 57 states, he didn't know the US motto, he lied about Benghazi, ad nauseum. These are accomplishments?
Got it all off the internet, thanks for the unnecessary advice. I was able to verify this all independent of the internet, something you "young people" might want to try, if you really want the truth. Well, that's just sad, little boy. You clearly can keep many contradictory, untrue, irrational, and illogical ideas in your head at one time.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:30PM

Still waiting on those accomplishments. Must be a very long list to be taking so much time.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:38PM

http://lmgtfy.com/

You're so cute when you're going through the five stages of grief. You lost. America won. Put on your big boy pants and stop sobbing, "But it isn't fair!"

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha!

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:42PM

Please allow "Gramps" to help you a little.
Accomplishments of this President, to wit:
Editor of the Harvard Law Review (only one in the history of the Review to never contribute a paper for publication).
Has never published an academic treatise of any kind, anywhere.
Never authored a piece of legislation as an Illinois State Senator.
Never authored a piece of legislation as a United States Senator.
Voted "Present" over 90% of the time (100% on potentially controversial issues).
All of the above information is available on this thing called the internet. You should try it some time.
As an aside, you come across as an insufferable sycophant. You should work on that if you want people to take you even a little bit seriously. I don't know what you do to make $700,000 a year but it's probably not legal. Have a nice next four years , you young dickhead.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:46PM

I'm a writer! Aahhahahahahahaha. I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying this. The sweaty, fumbling way you keep trying to score meaningless points based on fabricated nonsense, when the only game that matters has already been won. He's the president. A majority of people in this country don't think like you, and it's only going to get worse. Just keep in mind, I will be imagining your red, blustery face, furiously pounding the keys, barking at your long suffering wife and dog about how those damn pinkos are ruining this great land... every ever-loving second. You are a joy.

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 10:05PM

dmizzo, you are so right.

Let's look to the future. Obama won.
Tell us how Obama will reduce the deficit, balance the budget, and cut the unemployment rate to 5%.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 10:06PM

When you get around to writing about his accomplishments, let me know. I haven't read a good comic book in years. Now, take a deep breath, have another sip of Kool-aid and try to relax. Like I said, you come across as an insufferable sycophant and have lent credibility to my assertion that you're a dickhead. I'm finished amusing myself with you for this evening.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:24PM

Keep posting guys. Keep rending clothes and gnashing teeth. Keep fighting progress and clinging to your guns and bibles. Most days, you would be incredibly depressing. But today is a great day. A wonderful, undeniable victory for rational progressive thinkers everywhere. I am loving it and you are HATING it! Hee hee hee!

CJW| 11.7.12 @ 10:36PM

Enjoy your day, dmizzo, but before you leave or post under another name, can you tell us what O's plans are to reduce the deficit, reduce unemployment to 5%, balance the budget, and cut the gas price back to $1.80? Why keep the plans a secret?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 10:41PM

I think you're confused. 1) I'm not a policy advisor to the president. 2) I'm not here to engage you in debate. I'm here to drink your impotent rage like a vampire. It is manna to me.

sixgun98| 11.8.12 @ 12:50AM

dmizzo.... I note with amusement that you denigrate those of us that have faith in the Creator and his guidebook for mankind, and poke fun at the Holy Bible, while at the same time making use of the Bible's narrative concerning the feeding of the Israelites, with "manna". Quite funny how left-wing wackos utilize verbage from a book they often despise. Secondly, please be aware that many of us "clingers" will have the ability to defend our "right to life and liberty" due to the fact that we do cling to our guns, and I for one will not hesitate to make use of this advantage if it becomes necessary. Finally, still waiting on the long list of Nobamas life accomplishments... geez!

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:19AM

You live your life according to a book of fables for children. I'm not sure you're qualified to have a conversation with adults. Let me know when you stop believe in Santa, "sixgun." You must be so cute when mommy dresses you in your little hat and spurs.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 2:17AM

Rush said it first-you channeling Limbaugh now?
"In the land of children, Santa always wins".
What about your previous, bloviating, ridiculous posts scattered herein, in which you claim to be smarter, richer, taller and younger? Which of these claims are even remotely true and which qualifies you as an adult? You have revealed yourself as arrogant, contradictory, illogical, irrational, undeducated, profane, vulgar, lying foolish. And if you are indeed young, which your ad hominems and lack of rationality seem to indicate, you are the child and you have proven that you cannot have an adult conversation.

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 1:20AM

Btw, threats of physical violence: always the sign of a skilled debater. I'm going to tell mommy you aren't being nice again. You might not get dessert.

Btw, Obama won! WOOO! A great day in America!

dmizzo| 11.8.12 @ 3:07AM

Btw2, they also eat manna in - gasp - the Quran! Holy crap, I just made you write a muslim word! Unclean, unclean!

I'm sad you aren't responding anymore. Wipe away those tears and come back to the keyboard! I'm not through gloating!

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 2:46AM

dmizzo, too bad you and BO are not rational progressive thinkers, in fact, that is an oxymoron, or just moronic.
Answer not a fool in his folly......
Answer a fool in his folly......
Decisions, decisions.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 5:45PM

Judging by your posts you are uneducated, illogical and a very poor writer. Maybe you write porn but nothing of any value to the world. I doubt you made 700k on anything valuable, if you made anything at all. However, if you got elected to some office with a romantic fabricated backstory, even a poor book might make you money, like that ignorant, lying, marxist you admire so much.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 5:54PM

dmizzo, by exactly the same metric you use to say BO is a man of intelligence and accomplishment, then Bush is more. After all, we know Bush graduated from Harvard, was a 2 term Pres, served honorably in the reserves and at least knew how many states there are (hint: not 59 like BO said) and can pronounce corpsmen correctly, and never lied about his mother, father, and isn't a self avowed Marxist.
Talk about partisan blinders....you cannot even acknowledge the words from BO's own mouth which contradict you. Typical liberal spoiled, uneducated brat.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 5:59PM

He is so smart he thinks there are 59 states, does not know the national motto nor does he know anything about the Constitution or the law to which he claims scholarship due to his affirmative action enrollment to Harvard law a hotbed of marxist stupidity.

Thom| 11.7.12 @ 5:05PM

I had no dog in the presidential race. I saw the ABO (Any Bastard but Obama) strategy as having some downsides. If Hitler and Stalin were on the ballot record numbers would vote for both to vote against the other but one would win with certainty and Democrats would vote overwhelmingly for the one that killed several times more of his people than the other did. How do I know that? Because the first word out of Democrat's mouth is to call someone that disagrees with them Hitler and the Democrat controlled media and education businesses have shoved 60+ years of Hitler's atrocities down everyone's throat while ignoring Stalin's greater crimes against humanity.

Mitt Romney was the perfect "republican" candidate as the upper crust of republicanism sees things. His chief deficits were that he couldn't run on his record or inspire a starving cat to take food from his hand. Neither could King Obama which then reduced the race down to the one that promised the most goodies to the most people. Since misery loves company is an operative in the Democrat Party thinking and we have been officially ordained as a "democracy" by the Chief Supreme Being on Mount Supreme the wolves now have been given license to cull the herd of those that don't want to be slaves to the new majority. Unrestrained Human nature will take care of the rest.

Thom| 11.7.12 @ 5:06PM

There is a point where no leader can turn things around and matters will just run their ugly course. Whatever follows will just forestall the due date while increasing the consequence for most.

Didn't have to turn out this way but history if full of societies casting off the principles of good governance in return for the spoils from a few sacrificial citizens one generation to the next. The last "good men" this nation ever produced got on the last train out of town a long time ago ....

Between the civil war and the early 20th century there was a general contempt for what has become "democracy" in much of the US. An ugly reminder of what democracy becomes in practice and the rule of law is overridden by a significant majority at the expense of a minority was fresh on the minds of the population. 150 years later not even the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court will defend the enumerated limitations on government power. The fall from grace starts when you throw the first principle of governance in a republic out the window. No one can probably locate that event at this late date but I can assure you those who justified breaking that principle became the foundation for the next violation and so one until we find ourselves at a point where a roll of toilet paper has more street value than the Constitution.

Thom| 11.7.12 @ 5:07PM

Edmund Burke didn't break new ground with his famous quote because there is ample historical record that every attempt at self-rule going back thousands of years failed because of the same human tendencies. Words eventually don't mean anything under the law. Only force remains in the end.

Since hope and pray didn't form this "republic" back in 1770-80s I put no faith in either coming to our rescue. We have proven to not be worthy of God's grace if you believe in such things. Breaking several of his commandments is the foundation of one political party and the other tends to test the wind before taking a stand against popular will. We look down on the German people for voting in a monster yet overlook our own righteous monsters. The chickens will come home eventually.

Long live the King and his new Court Jester, the Governor of Jersey Girls.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 5:10PM

As a nation, we are already at the point where the only way to see another Republican president is if we have one or more major catastrophes such as a war, deep economic depression, a plague or starvation, or a civil war.

I believe Obam will grant amnesty to illegal aliens about 1 year before the 2016 elections by executive order if necessary. That will mean we never have another Republican president again barring the catastrophes I mentioned.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 5:16PM

Also, a 3rd party IS WORTH trying now even though it too will need a catalyst such as a catastrophe or war before a new party president could be elected! But now is as good a time any to go the 3rd party route.

And by the way, a catastrophe of one sort or another WILL OCCUR.

Thom| 11.7.12 @ 5:24PM

BtB, For whatever third party you think needs to come into being I’d simply ask where are you going to get the voters for that? The problem with our political system is not the two party system but can be found in this quote, “an enduring weakness of democracy is its lack of accountability…” All previous attempts at self-rule democracy have committed fiscal suicide. So is this one. That’s why the Founders gave us a constitutional republic which is ceased to exist completely from view relatively recently.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 9:48PM

I answered the question already about where we will get the votes. We will get them via major national crises or war.

I am aware of the quote about democracies committing national suicide.... So why the worry about a 3rd party? I was on board for the Republicans for this election but I also knew it was our last chance. Why was it our last chance? Because both parties have enacted the suicidal policies, moresothe democrats, that have ruined our nations minority familes and have resulted in huge demographic shifts.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 10:34PM

To clarify a little more. The crises can wake up enough people to make a difference. Suffering, lack of food, war are terrible but often effective taskmasters in getting people to think more sensibly.

RCV| 11.9.12 @ 2:32PM

Sean Hannity has already signed onto the "path to citizenship" program.

Bob Grant| 11.7.12 @ 5:22PM

The Case of the Missing Voters:

It looks like there will be approximately 11 million fewer voters in '12 than '08.

Obama with 9 million fewer and Romney with 2 million fewer.

Where did they go? Who are they? What kept them away from the polls?

Why so much voter apathy in the most crucial election in 100 years?

Thom| 11.7.12 @ 6:22PM

Bob I can't say for sure but I think the missing 9 million are from the School of Hard Knocks and have given up on symbolism over substance politics. They see the choice as between Hitler and Stalin. It is kind of a fatal attraction of sorts. There is a point where compromising your principles becomes as bad as the choice to some. The political class continues to say Sarah Palin hurt McCain. I think this election puts the truth to that lie. Neither McCain nor Romney could win a majority in the Republican primaries with two or more opponents. We’ll see but I suspect the value voters stayed home. Romney never built a coalition of the various flavors of conservative voters. And of course the country club side of the Republican ticket always assumes it will get the base regardless of the circumstance. Doesn’t work that way with principled voters.

Jardino| 11.7.12 @ 5:51PM

THREE POINTS

[1] AMERICA IS NOT DOOMED !!!

We'll pull through this hard time and go "forward" together. United we stand. Divided we fall.

[2] RIGHT OF CENTER ... vs ... FAR RIGHT

If Republican leaders had repudiated the birther and Muslim stuff at the start, instead of enjoying the circus, maybe that would have been enough to tilt the balance to a conservative victory. They finally got it right when they jumped on Bachmann for bashing Hillary Clinton's Muslim aid. Bachmann barely won this time by 1%. She will lose the next time because she will not be able to keep her mouth shut. She adores the attention of right wing extremists.

[3] SECTION 8 OF CONSTITUTION

The Federal government is empowered to tax, borrow money, regulate commerce, and to promote science, the useful arts and the general welfare.

Stan Redmond| 11.7.12 @ 6:58PM

Individual liberty, individual responsibility, limited federalist government is now right wing? My how the liberal machine has bastardized history. It really makes me sad that so many in a country that cast off shackles of an uninterested Monarch only to throw on a smothering security blanket provided by uninterested tyrants in DC.

Archie| 11.7.12 @ 7:11PM

(1) I hope so. But I do wonder what the left means when they say forward.
(2) You lost me here. You're suggesting that the USA is divided between right of center and far right? That beyond nuts. It means you're not paying attention. And I'm not a birther, but what other president has so tightly locked up his pre-presidential history, for no one to see?
(3) Tax payer funding for anti-christian "arts" doesn't fly with me. You should know what I mean by this.

KennesawJack| 11.7.12 @ 9:11PM

Archie, I think Jardino may be mis-interpreting section 8. The reference to the "useful arts" is specifically about engineering and manufacturing, not the fine (I use the term loosely) arts.

Ralph Novy| 11.12.12 @ 3:10AM

He was QUOTING, not INTERPRETING, you illiterate ass.

Read!

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 5:30PM

That was NOT a quote. He selected a few pieces of the section and put them together. that is selective editing, not quoting and amounts to selective & false interpretation. Here is the quote for the paragraph on useful arts, after 7 paragraphs of duties, responsibilities and granted powers:

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

In context, it does NOT refer to what we specifically think of as art (paintings, performance art, music)

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 8:09PM

Novy, You are the illiterate ass if you think that was a quote. Read the actual words (I left out a few paragraphs of powers)
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
.........
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; ...............
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, BY securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; (cap added for emphasis)

Thom| 11.7.12 @ 8:32PM

“[3] SECTION 8 OF CONSTITUTION
The Federal government is empowered to tax, borrow money, regulate commerce, and to promote science, the useful arts and the general welfare.”

When these words were pinned the cost of the Federal government and how it was able to raise revenue could not be thrust upon a minority of the electorate making them slaves to a majority. The people elected to office could not forsake accountability for their actions by buying the votes of a majority with the fruits of the labor from a minority. In other words, when you prostrate the concept of a Republic by treating the Constitution as a cafeteria plan you void the entire document eventually. The above words like the rest of the Constitution are now worthless words on a piece of paper. Guess what that leaves?

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 6:04PM

Do not misstate, misquote the Constitution. There are a lot more powers than that and the way you abbreviated the section takes much out of context, the very reason the Constitution is under attack.
Look at the whole section, too long to put here.
Actually, the powers were enumerated much more specifically than shown above and the abbreviation above lends to extreme misinterpretation and yes worthless words.
However, the Constitution still says what it does. Many Pres and some Congresses and some SCOTUS "interpretations" have reinterpreted and attempted to stretch the Constitution out of shape, but it still stands and can and should be restored. Hillsdale College is trying; let us not let Hillsdale stand alone. At least 1/2 of the country does not agree with BO, liberals, socialists. Let us try to reach the uneducated and illogical with the truth. I hope it is not too late.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 6:07PM

Here is the first part of what the Sect 8 actually says: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

bluecollarbytes| 11.7.12 @ 6:35PM

it's about time someone called 'New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the gelatinous clown'.

he is dead meat for Any presidential run in the Republican Party. ever

Rockabilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:53PM

This is what comes when states have to kiss federal ass to get help in a disaster. Bend over and spread 'em wide brother. Christie did go overboard in lavishing praise on O for doing his job and it may well have ended his chances in the GOP. He should switch parties.

CountNomis| 11.7.12 @ 7:16PM

I think that it would make sense if we stopped to think what mistakes we made that led to this defeat, and what mistakes Romney made. I believe that many people voted the GOP because they voted AGAINST Obama and not FOR Romney. Like it or not, Romney was not the best choice that we made against Obama.

CountNomis| 11.7.12 @ 7:17PM

With all due respect it's that outlook that will lead us to another defeat in the next election if we don't do a reality check and next time choose a viable candidate. Romney was a terrible, terrible, candidate for anyone who didn't have a blinding hatred of Obama. He had a Swiss bank account and a Cayman Islands tax dodge; that's a red flag for anyone. When the hurricane devastated New Jersey, he insisted that the governor drop everything and come campaign for him; then, he had a tiny U-Haul that he said he was going to put stuff to send there. He oozed hypocrisy everywhere he went, telling them what those people wanted to hear, then going to the opposite stance elsewhere. He was against the same Obamacare that he instituted as governor. His refusal to release all his tax records and then releasing one that would make even Wesley Snipe laugh. His "I like to fire people," remark. I mean, he was possibly the worst candidate to put up against Obama. And Paul Ryan's speech at the convention where he uttered lie after lie after lie. And, my god, the arrogance of that family, especially his wife!

Next time we have to pick a better candidate. Maybe Rubio?

Bob Grant| 11.7.12 @ 7:32PM

Your boy won. Congrats!

In the coming years I hope your families' suffering is kept to a minimum, I really do, even though I hold you and your ilk responsible for the demise of our country.

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:57PM

That doesn't sound hyperbolic. You lost an election. It happens. Put down the canned goods.

America won. And even though you'll rend your clothes and gnash your teeth, you'll benefit too. You're welcome.

BackToBasics| 11.7.12 @ 10:48PM

Rubio may not be rich but policy-wise, he's close to where Romney is. He's a moderate though many try to say he's as conservative as they come. So, when you say maybe Rubio, you are calling for a Romney without the bank accounts.

Ralph Novy| 11.11.12 @ 2:15AM

"Romney was a terrible, terrible, candidate for anyone who didn't have a blinding hatred of Obama."

Yes.

And that tells you one hell of a lot about the folks (57 million?) who voted for Romney, doesn't it?

Pretty damned pathetic in this day and age.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.12 @ 7:48PM

Rush nailed it as usual. How do you run against Santa Clause?

dmizzo| 11.7.12 @ 9:57PM

Don't run the Grinch.

don| 11.7.12 @ 8:39PM

I read Paul Johnson's History of the American People. In it, I discovered that FDR was just as big an ignoramus as Obama. Yet, he got relected over and over and over again. History has shown the history is repeatable; Obama won a second term in spite of the fact that he has screwed up. Let the idiots who voted for him have everything they want. America won't be fixable, but let them have it. Let's see who will be crying then. Unfortunately, we have to watch America die with them.

Ralph Novy| 11.11.12 @ 2:17AM

Who is/was Paul Johnson?

That weird guy in your hometown who got arrested all those times for hanging around the school playground?

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 5:16PM

Stupid ad hominem attack.
Don't need Johnson to know that FDR was a socialist and that the majority cheered as he attempted to destroy the foundation of this country, just the record and results of his social engineering.
I can only hope that BO will be prevented from any more damage and will see his path to becoming known in history as a great President is reversing his stands on fossil fuel. If he does and releases the American economy to the financial boom that US oil and gas can bring within 2 years, the US economic problems will be over, the deficit erased, surplus created, millions of jobs created and US becomes the savior of the global economy and reascends to global prominence and safety.

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.7.12 @ 9:11PM

It's time to shut down GOP!

Rockabilly| 11.7.12 @ 11:48PM

I too share your despair and feel that our country has changed because of mass immigration of third world people who look to government for all. Earlier immigrants aspired to become Americans, rich, or well off, independent.
the current crop want the ever expanding federal government to be their caretakers and give only lip service to freedom. They only want to be free to have promiscuous sex, gay "marriage," smoke weed, and lead hedonistic lives empty of honor and character. That is why the boy messiah Obama appeals to them. He tells them what they want to hear and promises a carefree life of laconic indifference. Blacks whose unemployment numbers are dismal, worse under Obama, still adore him. He is their man putting it to"the man." Romney, a good and decent man is called a rich greedy, selfish shark eager to oppress the poor and middle class while the pandering pretender in the White House who abandoned our people in Libya is worshiped. Disgust in spades is what I feel and have contempt and no respect for those who support this chameleon purveyor of class hatred, division, and selfishness.

Ralph Novy| 11.11.12 @ 2:20AM

You're a very small person, Rockabilly.

Apparently the only way you can make yourself feel important is to run down other folks.

Be bigger! Read! Think! Try to put yourself in others' shoes!

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 7:55PM

My experience with immigrants (legal and illegal current crop) is not what you say.
Most of them are here to live a better life and give their children a better life. The 60's gave rise to a generation of mostly white dropouts who wanted "free love", do drugs and leave hedonistic lives. Many of them grew up and became mainstream and relatively productive citizens. Illegals tend to seek only medical care, not welfare and most do not take highpaying or highly skilled jobs. I have worked for, worked with and hired many immigrants. I have found them as a group, to be more honest, hardworking, and moral than "established" Americans, and almost all wanted to be and became American citizens and vote conservative. Some immigrants are criminals, like some american citizens.
You generalize too much and lay the blame on immigrants. It is unsupportable. What is supportable is that 1/2 of the voters whether knowingly or not, tend to be takers or gulpers at the public trough. If you look at the people on welfare, they tend not to be immigrants.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 7:58PM

Sorry, I wrote leave instead of live hedonistic lives.

sixgun98| 11.8.12 @ 12:36AM

If the Republicans would stop nominating moderate-to-left-leaning Republicans to run for office, maybe they might win one or two elections. If the wacky democrats have a choice between voting for a moderate Republican or a left-wing nut job Democrat, they will go with the Democrat every time. And a lot of Republicans just refuse to vote for a moderate Republican.

jvnvch| 11.8.12 @ 12:44AM

Might I offer a ray of sunshine? I think it's quite possible, even likely, that the Republicans will improve on their majority in the House in 2014, and perhaps even take control of the Senate, national demographic changes notwithstanding. Wouldn't surprise me a bit, it being an off-year election, and without President Obama being on the ballot.

Demographic changes will, undoubtedly, make it difficult for a Republican to win the presidency in 2016, of course, just as they did this year.

Suzyqpie| 11.8.12 @ 7:32AM

What happens when no one buys our debt? Eventually the 0bama spending bacchanalia ends. How will it end? The rich are not rich enough and there are not enough of them. The rich have options, the money moves to safe havens.

Teflon93 | 11.8.12 @ 7:56AM

And what will the rich have when Obama and Bernanke simply print more money, devaluing it in the process?

Greece, here we come!

Teflon93 | 11.8.12 @ 7:56AM

And what will the rich have when Obama and Bernanke simply print more money, devaluing it in the process?

Greece, here we come!

Teflon93 | 11.8.12 @ 7:55AM

The future is slavery: for those who produce wealth in this country and will have it stolen from them to pay for political favors as well as for those gravy-trainers who have given up their liberty to play XBox in their parents' basements while somebody else picks up the tab.

America is no longer the land of the free, much less the home of the brave.

Where is there another?

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.8.12 @ 8:54AM

Teflon,
there is no other...except perhaps Texas. Do you note that even with Texas humping oil and gas to bust our britches, the guys up east are having a hard time?
What if Texas took a holiday? Just a short vacation?

KyMouse| 11.8.12 @ 8:05AM

Several trolls in this thread have commented about corporate greed driving jobs overseas.

Years ago, I did some advertising for a company that consisted of two people. Their brand-new venture, started with seed money they had saved up, consisted of making high-quality calendars.

They tried very hard to find American printers who could meet the standard of work that they wanted, at a price they could afford. They couldn't find it, thanks to the unions, and had to deal with a printing company in China.

That was a tiny American company which comprised two entrepreneurs -- not some bloated conglomerate. They weren't greedy, they were just trying to get their business off the ground.

Eventually they did, but it was no thanks to the unions.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 7:30PM

I was a manager for a construction firm that had government contracts, which required that we hire only union. (In 1968) I had to hire the senior union members, who were mostly drunks and incompetents, before I could hire good ones. Also, I had to pay for a "shop steward" another do nothing that controlled my job and how it got done. Our steel deliveries were problematic-the union bosses tried to prevent the deliveries because they came by non-union drivers and firms. The trucks came in with machine gun strafed sides and many drivers died. This was before union thuggery violence was legitimized as serving union purposes and therefore not actionable. BO packed the NLRB, forced unionization and card check and forced dues are the norm. The GM bailout served the unions as engineered directly by BO. All the productive GM plants were closed (non-union) all non-union employees lost their pensions and jobs; they were given to the UAW. Benefits at the UAW are 100/hr. Unions are a major part of the economic problem in the US and the forced dues got BO elected to the Senate and probably were the tipping point for both Pres elections. I've had to deal with unions all my working life & in the 50 yrs, unions caused many problems and have had no positive effect (except of course for the bank accounts of senior union members and bosses). Unions are a major cause of the increase in prices (medical care included), decrease in jobs and jobs going overseas, and the sad state of public education.

OregonBuzz| 11.8.12 @ 10:51AM

‘It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few and for the few ‘and to replace it with shared prosperity'. Karl Marx 1875.

‘I have a new vision of an America in which prosperity is shared by all'. Obama, August 2012
Or, if you prefer:
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.” Adolf Hitler

Cuffs| 11.8.12 @ 12:40PM

Hello, do you think the Obama voters care about
liberty and freedom? They are willing to give up
both for freebies from the govt. Conservatism is
dead and our republic is dying. Obama did not win
the election. The socialist cabal behind him won
the election. Obama is a mere puppet. Socialism has been on the march since 1900 and Obama is
the poster boy for it. The election was a foregone conclusion. The global socialists are
so close to fundamentally transforming America,
do you honestly think they wouldn't skewed the
election for Obama. How naive are we anyway?

Cincy Jan| 11.8.12 @ 1:20PM

Thank you for such a witty snap recap of our shocked reaction to the election results. It's the first time I've smiled since election day.

Katie| 11.8.12 @ 1:32PM

You have completely summarized how I feel - depressed, disheartened, hopeless and fearful for the future - especially for my son scheduled to go to Afghanistan in 6 months, my daughter, just starting out in life and, perhaps most of all, for the grandchild not yet born. The liberals are gloating like jackels and I hate them for what they have done to my country. Romney was so right about the 47% only, sadly, it seems the percentage is higher.

zhaba1| 11.8.12 @ 1:56PM

Completely agree with the author. Will only get worse. Idiocracy prevailed and will not be defeated through the electoral process.

Smart people "who built it" need to start thinking about the Plan "B". We need new leaders for the new times.

zukatesta| 11.8.12 @ 11:25PM

Interesting.

I look upon this article and the comments with real curiosity. Is there not the slightest possibility that the lot of you are having the teeniest difficulty accepting a new reality? It would seem that Republican ideology, being so very steeped in traditional views of morality, family values, personal responsibility and spirituality, would make the most strident of conservatives very resistant to change. I expect that the lot of you (though not the author, who's conservative textbook is too much on display for me to believe for one second he cares in the slightest) care so deeply about restoring what you had, that you haven't begun to accept its already gone. WASP America is no more. Mothers work now, while kids go to day care. Teenagers have sex. We do actually need sunblock.

It just doesn't seem possible that you can be intellectually honest with yourself and arrive at "everybody else must be stupid." What's more likely is that those that voted for Obama just don't value what you do, and moreover, what they do value the do so with the same passion you display.

Be angry for as long as you like, but consider that the other side isn't as evil as you think. The world changed, but not for the first or last time. You can make peace with this if you want, and when you're ready to let go of the anger that bore the Tea Party, this country and its people can really begin to move forward.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 6:23PM

The motto of communism/marxism/socialism is forward. It isn't progress or improvement, it is the path of intellectual, economic and most important spiritual death. Even revisionist history teaches that much.
The other side is lead by, deceived by evil and is awash in evil. I cannot, nor can anyone make peace with evil without becoming evil. The problem is recognizing evil. It tends to be banal at first look. We are frogs in a cold pot, gradually being heated so we are cooked before we know the danger. The anger that bore the Tea Party was the anger against the tyrannical government of Britain. The new tea party, not coherent unlike either dems or repubs, also see the tyranny of bureaucracy and the grasp for unilateral power by a bloated executive branch violating the Constitution on a daily basis. Anger is unfortunately necessary to effect necessary change.

Santiago| 11.9.12 @ 1:57PM

I'm not angry, I just shake my head. My suggestion is to leave the US, and get out while you can. It's easier to watch from afar like I am rather than staying and suffering for collective mistakes.

Billmon | 11.9.12 @ 9:10PM

There's an easy solution, Bob. Just go home, tape all the windows and doors tightly shut, blow out the pilot light on the stove and turn the gas on all the burners all the way up.

Then go upstairs, lay down in the bedroom, and go to sleep.

All your troubles and all your political despair will soon be over.

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 6:12PM

Liberals have no respect for life or disagreement. Advocating suicide, abortion, and death to all opposition, supporting lies and liars and refusing to acknowledge you might be wrong.

Politics Debunked | 11.10.12 @ 3:16PM

A major reason Obama won: People didn't realize how much he lied. Many liberal newspapers reported his claim he will "pay down our debt".. and never printed anything questioning it. He constantly repeated the lie, contradicted by his own budget document. The anti-Obama media likely didn't bother pointing out his lie because they thought it was obvious.. but it wasn't to many people it appears.

Obama claimed at the Democratic National Convention on Sept. 6th, 2012: "I'll use the money we're no longer spending on war to pay down our debt".

Yet the White House site contains his 2013 budget proposal with a table showing his planned national debt at the end of each year through 2022. It adds at least $900 billion to the debt every year, $9.6 trillion over a decade.

If a CEO lied about his company's finances to get people to buy stock, the public would cry "fraud! send him to jail!". Should we trust someone to run our government that we wouldn't trust to run a company? This isn't a one time gaffe, he has repeated it from the State of the Union in January, through dozens of speeches into October and a campaign commercial.

For details about this, or to see the issue described in an amusing cartoon&video; mashup of Obama's own words, see the new site: http://PoliticsDebunked.com

handsoff| 11.12.12 @ 5:08PM

I would add that he has lied about almost everything and revealed his general lack of knowledge about everything. He who lies about the little things, cannot be trusted with the big things.
ie he lied about his mother's insurance, his alleged father's education "achievements" and immigration records, he lied about his relationship with Bill Ayres among many, many things. He lied about his votes on certain issues, like the Katrina fema waiver which he voted against 1 of 12 which passed overwhelmingly in spite of him and then claimed Congress wouldn't grant the waiver because Katrina victims were black, that only he cared about blacks, and he did it with a lack of grammar and in ghetto accent. In effect, he lied on several levels as a Senator and seldom attended Congress. By comparison, those are the little things. Perhaps it would be easier to name the things he told the truth about. His training in Marxism is the only thing I can think of that he openly acknowledged until elected Pres.

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