In New Hampshire today, Mitt Romney will formally launch his
presidential campaign. It’s hardly a surprising development.
Romney’s second bid for the Republican nomination began the day his
first ended. He has essentially been running for president since he
decided not to seek reelection as governor of Massachusetts in 2006
(arguably since he changed his position on abortion the year
before).
This time, Romney is the closest thing the GOP field has to a
frontrunner. He leads among the declared candidates in most
national polls. He is heavily favored in New Hampshire and, with
Mike Huckabee out of the race, he is now in first in Iowa. In
addition to his own personal wealth, Romney has been a prodigious
fundraiser. At a time when campaigns are often judged by the
success of their Internet “money bombs,” Romney hauled in $10
million in a single day.
Of course, Romney’s national lead is less than overwhelming.
It’s also highly contingent on Sarah Palin and other potential
top-tier candidates staying out of the race. In some polls, Romney
is less than 10 points ahead of Ron Paul and Herman Cain. Finally,
Romney led in the early states for much of 2007. His support proved
soft once the ballots were counted. The man who spent most of that
year atop the national polls had the same problem: Rudy Giuliani
tanked as soon as he faced the voters.
In 2008, Romney was doomed by his failure to become the
unquestioned conservative alternative to John McCain. Instead he
shared that mantle with Huckabee, Fred Thompson, and several
lower-tier candidates. This time Romney’s path to the nomination
resembles McCain’s: he can win with the votes of moderates and a
critical mass of conservatives, while his opponents carve up the
rest of the conservative vote.
McCain withstood his support for amnesty for illegal immigrants,
advocacy of constitutionally dubious campaign finance reform, and
opposition to the Bush tax cuts. Romney must hope he can similarly
overcome his backing of the TARP bailout, his flip-flop on
abortion, and the rest of his Massachusetts moderate past. But the
issue Romney must fear most is health care.
The similarities between Romneycare at the state level and
Obamacare at the national level have been rehashed many times.
Suffice it to say that many Republicans are not persuaded by
Romney’s explanations of his Massachusetts health care law and fear
the former governor’s stance on the individual mandate will make it
more difficult to repeal Obamacare.
Had Romney disavowed his health care law, he would have added to
his controversial list of flip-flops. But by defending Romneycare
at length, he risks alienating Republican primary voters who
already regard him as too liberal.
Romney faced a similar challenge concerning ethanol. Former
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, one of many Republicans who would like
to dethrone Romney, took his truth-telling tour to Iowa and said:
all energy subsidies must be phased out, including those benefiting
your precious ethanol. Romney could have followed suit, but that
would have been another flip-flop. “I support the subsidy of
ethanol,” Romney instead told an Iowa voter. “I believe ethanol is
an important part of the energy solution for our country.”
With unemployment hovering near 10 percent, Romney does not have
to emphasize the social issues that bedeviled him in 2008. He can
instead talk about his private sector experience and his ideas to
create jobs. But that private sector experience comes as a
double-edged sword: as a venture capitalist, Romney created jobs
and he also laid people off. Ted Kennedy used the latter against
him to great effect in their 1994 Senate contest.
The Romney campaign is one of the great Rorschach tests of
American politics. Depending on your view, one might contrast
Romney’s record with the Tea Party-infused Republican Party and
ask: How can he win? One might also look at the rest of the field
— and the GOP’s penchant for rewarding the runner-up from the last
election — and ask: How can Romney lose?
jd| 6.2.11 @ 6:22AM
What's going to happen is that the Republican base will split their vote between Romney and a more conservative candidate, and Obama will be re-elected. Mark my word.
NedB| 6.2.11 @ 8:50AM
That assumes he makes it to the convention.
PCC| 6.2.11 @ 8:55AM
Let's have a no-holds-barred GOP primary, and then let's unite behind the GOP nominee and elect a Republican House, Senate and President. It's the only answer!
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:18AM
Just like we did in 94?
No thanks. I'll vote Ron Paul and pray for gridlock.
Jack in Wi.| 6.2.11 @ 11:13AM
Romney is another Dole or McCain. At least those 2 old birds were wars hero's. America is not going to vote for another pro-war chickenhawk Republican. Obama will be re-elected in a landslide if we let the neo-cons and the other Rinos set the agenda. This party is ready to fracture.
George Field| 6.2.11 @ 1:54PM
One can always tell a lib by the insulting names they call persons whose opinion differs from theirs.
Jack in Wi.| 6.2.11 @ 4:12PM
I have voted for every Republican candidate for President since Barry Goldwater. I will never vote for Romney. I will vote for the Constitution Party before I vote for another rino elitist.
James| 6.2.11 @ 7:48PM
George sounds like a RINO. You're a "liberal" if you won't hold your nose and vote for a RINO like him.
I'm with you, Jack.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:19AM
Same here. Jack makes WAY too much sense to be a liberal.
EruditeEarlobe| 6.16.11 @ 3:07PM
Jack in Wi.:
If it smells like a duck and talks like a duck it is a duck and you sir smell like a Democratic Duck. So you voted for liberals Ford/Rockefeller, Nixon, and the Bushes. Yep, you sir are a hypocrite and a religious bigot. More likely you are a Democrat!
laurie| 6.2.11 @ 2:28PM
That is 10 million a day from contributors out of the index cards in his rolladesk.....
Hardly a grass roots effort.....
Lets see how Quiet you are on June 5th for the grassroots moneybomb for the real conservative in the race.... Ron Paul
James| 6.2.11 @ 3:03PM
Sorry, laurie, neither Paul nor Romney will get the nod. Paul's an odd outlier and Romney's a stiff.
Jerry Carroll| 6.2.11 @ 6:06PM
Ron Paul is the Jim Jones of the right.
Jack in Wi.| 6.2.11 @ 7:05PM
Ron Paul has been right for over 30 years. Go read his books. He has more commonsense in the tip of his pinkie than Romney, the Bush's and all the other elitists who have sunk the country. Where are all those weapons of mass destruction? Enough of the liars and crooks. It is time for an honest man. Ron Paul For President. Rand Paul for Vice President.
James| 6.2.11 @ 7:49PM
I like Paul, but some of his ideas freak me out. I'm glad we got Bin Laden, regardless of Ron Paul's objections.
Jack in Wi.| 6.3.11 @ 1:51AM
Ron Paul was for getting Bin Laden. He would have gotten him a lot sooner then these fools who went to Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11. Bin Laden should have been the focus not all the distractions of fights all over the world. This so called War on Terror has made hundreds of terrorists into hundreds of thousands. Now Bin Laden is dead and these fools in both parties are trying to get us into more wars. Bring the troops home now to be with their families. Let the world take care of itself. We can't even manage this country, much less the world.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:10PM
Link, please. The interview I watched doesn't support your post.
mames| 6.2.11 @ 3:25PM
Just another RINO. Why do these old bastards keep mucking things up. Most of us would retire if we had his inherited money. They have egos the size of Texas and balls the size of the latest poll. He still refuses to acknowledge his screw up in MA. Go away mitt. And what kind of name is mitt anyway? He is more qualified to host a game show.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 3:54PM
LOL! Great comment. No balls Romney.
Nightwing| 6.3.11 @ 3:41AM
"And what kind of name is mitt anyway?"
HIS REAL NAME IS WILLARD
Mitt is a nickname
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:21AM
President Willard Romney.
Yikes! I'd go by Mitt as well!
Shamus| 6.4.11 @ 10:55AM
Wasn't Willard the guy with the rats?
CB| 6.2.11 @ 11:37PM
With his 25 years of private sector leadership experience Romney is the best candidate. We must nominate someone with private sector credentials.
Romney inspires confidence. He can defeat Obama AND be a good president. I don’t want to return to Bush either.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:23AM
Ron Paul is a successful Doctor, self made millionair, economist, and author, not to mention he has a 30 year constitutional voting record. Thousands of votes, no flip flops
Mitt is a trust fund baby with a plastic face, a fake smile, and a nice suit. More flip flops than a california Wal Mart.
Pzkfw| 6.3.11 @ 12:14PM
Private sector leadership??? Really??? He inherited his fortune from his private sector father. No better than Trump who also inherited his money from the true real estate genius...this father.
For the rich, with no real job, the presidency is just the ultimate ego trip. Conservatives need to kick all these retreads to the curb and provide a candidate who can go toe-to-toe with the ego-in chief.
Alan Brooks| 6.3.11 @ 8:45AM
Is that his wife in the photo? she is as good-looking as Palin-- a 10.
Now we know why guys go into politics.
Pzkfw| 6.3.11 @ 12:40PM
A 10??? You must be using some
over-50 scale. Jessica Alba is a 10. On that scale, Romney's wife won't break 6.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:11PM
Brooks is senile.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.2.11 @ 6:23AM
How can Romney lose? Well, I for one will not vote for him. If this is your answer to saving the country, it has deteriorated to the point that it is not worth saving. It is time to start over rather than try to mend the death of a thousand cuts from RINO”s capitulators like the health care hairdoo. Look on the bright side we probably won’t make it to the election anyway.
Chris Killingsworth| 6.2.11 @ 1:38PM
The Puritans posting plenty of pish-posh will ensure Obummer's reelection.
Nobody special| 6.2.11 @ 2:48PM
If Romney wins the nomination, THAT will ensure Obummer's re-election. I will not vote for Romney either. Given that I can't bring myself to check the box labeled Obama either, I will do one of two things: vote for the libertarian candidate, or write in Barry Soetoro to vote against Romney while telling Obummer "we're onto you."
James| 6.2.11 @ 3:04PM
Romney = McCain; how did 2008 work out for us?
Romney will never get my vote.
CB| 6.2.11 @ 11:38PM
With his 25 years of private sector leadership experience Romney is the best candidate. We must nominate someone with private sector credentials.
Romney inspires confidence. He can defeat Obama AND be a good president. I don’t want to return to Bush either!
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:12PM
I don't want a return to RINO McCain either.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:25AM
There's always secession.
Kitty| 6.2.11 @ 6:35AM
How can he lose? OMG, the GOP elite are truly clueless if they have to ask that question. A lot of us (y'know, Tea Party types?) are still seething McCain was forced on us; it was Sarah Palin who moved us to pull the lever for him. So to even mention McCain's name -- "This time Romney's path to the nomination resembles McCain's -- should tell you the problem you've got with Romney.
jd is right: Romney as the Repub nominee will split the party.
W. James Antle III | 6.2.11 @ 2:32PM
"So to even mention McCain's name -- 'This time Romney's path to the nomination resembles McCain's' -- should tell you the problem you've got with Romney."
I agree. But McCain won the nomination, didn't he?
James| 6.2.11 @ 3:07PM
Nomination? Yes, so what? How did McCain do in November of that year?
You Kool-Aid drinking RINOs are destroying our party.
mames| 6.2.11 @ 3:28PM
Sorry to do this but I have to mention the Morman cult thing. Who in their right mind believes the Joesph Smith insanity? NO ONE. Look at the two most obvious comparisons, Hatch and Reid ... not a great track record for the Mormon cultists.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 3:56PM
Romney's religion is his business--big government RomneyCare is OUR business. Go home, Mitt, 2008 was your chance and you blew it.
mames| 6.2.11 @ 5:17PM
Religion and theology and philosophy take the measure of a man regardless if you choose to understand that or not.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 5:46PM
You're just a bigot--please go away.
mames| 6.2.11 @ 7:32PM
Read the Mormon cult teachings and see if YOU could suspend all reason and believe in this crap. It is what it is and bigotry has nothing to do with it. Then again maybe your'e a Scientology member?
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 7:52PM
I think you're a Romneybot pretending to be a religious bigot so Romney can dismiss his defeat on the grounds of religious bigotry. It won't work, moron.
RINO Romney will be rejected because of his Liberal, big-government policies not his religion.
Vern Crisler | 6.2.11 @ 11:13PM
As I said a couple of years ago, Romney's Mormonism will do more harm to Mormons than to Romney. When the left starts sifting through Mormon doctrine, it'll get a lot more exposure than it would otherwise. Leftists don't follow the Kennedy example: everything's fair game to them.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:26AM
Well said.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:13PM
We all know Leftists are dirtbags--I just don't want to be tarred with the same brush.
Doctor_X| 6.2.11 @ 6:46AM
I give up! I'm moving to Canada.
I can't take 4 more years of Obama
*Sigh*
Appleby| 6.2.11 @ 11:20AM
Better come up here and stay for a few years before you move here permanently.
If you want to live in ObamaWorld right now, move to Canada. It's already here.
Larry| 6.2.11 @ 7:02AM
Romneycare will not place better than 3rd in the Republican primary.
Remember, you heard it here first.
Nancy in NC| 6.2.11 @ 7:11AM
I pray you are correct. I held my nose to vote for MCCain. I can't do it again...guess that means staying home, because I would never vote for Obama.
Larry| 6.2.11 @ 7:23AM
Nancy, it's ABO- Anyone But Obama. I too held my nose for McCain and it's possible that I'll do the same in 2012 although I think that there are some very good candidates despite what the leftist, America hating lamestream media say. Notice how they never talk about what a poor field is represented on the other side?
Anyway, empathize with your wish to stay home on election day. If you do that though, you're giving a vote to Comrade Golfer. No matter how bad the Republican candidate may be, even it's Romneycare or McCain II, you have to vote for that person. At least we have a shot, no matter how small it may be with a republican. With the golfer, we have no shot at all.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.2.11 @ 7:41AM
I'm going to vote Larry and I am going to write in Palin. I have fought for this country, I have voted in every election, and I have never voted for a democrat. You and your ilk are why we are in dire straits. Your way we are going down, the Obama way we are going down. The only thing left will be who to blame. I will no longer be complicant by electing fools, democrats or republicans.
I have spoke my piece, and I have counted to ten. While you are kissing your capitulating RINO ass goodbye, kiss mine too.
Larry| 6.2.11 @ 7:45AM
Mike, you apparently misunderstood me or have poor reading skills. I'd love for Sarah Palin to be the nominee. I'd vote for her in a second if I could.
I'm very anti-establishment respublican.
A write-in vote though is as good as not voting. You're wasting your vote on that day if you do so.
As far as me being responsible for the state of country, sorry to tell you pal, I've never held elective office. If you want to blame it on what you THINK are my voting patterns, then I say that you and your silly wasted write-in votes have given more power to the democrat lib-scum.
SpiralArchitect| 6.2.11 @ 12:28PM
Any vote not for the GOP front runner or a non-vote will count as two Obummer votes.
Proceede with caution, please.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:31AM
If you vote for the GOP "no matter what" then you are part of the Republicans' problem.
Republicans MUST be willing to vote "Other" and lose an election in order to send their party a message. Yes, you may lose some. Yes, you may lose THIS one, important though it may be.
But the GOP will get the message, eventually, and start running real conservatives instead of McRomneyCain.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:20AM
I am supporting Gov. Palin all the way. Get involved with Organize4Palin if you want to help. I don't think you'll have to write her in-I think she's going to go for it and do it for love of country and to be a servant leader as she has done all of her adult life. If by chance she doesn't get the nomination, there are petitions that can get her on the ballot with enough signatures.
She's got the right ideas, skills, values and message. She's got a spine of steel and is solid as a rock. Don't accept defeat-fight for her to be nominated! We the people will be the ones to help her do it and she wouldn't have it any other way.
James| 6.2.11 @ 3:08PM
Yes!
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:33AM
I think Palin sees herself as a Miss America kind of figure. She seems content to travel the country and rally the troops, but not run for POTUS.
If she did run, there's a good chance I'd vote for her (if Ron Paul didn't run).
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:15PM
Palin's running--to believe otherwise is foolish.
Occam's Tool| 6.2.11 @ 1:57PM
Romney's running. I'm so excited. Rain today, maybe. Maybe not.
Wonder what I'll have for lunch. Do I really care? No, probably not.
Romney's running. Yawn.
Occam's Tool| 6.2.11 @ 1:58PM
Wake me up when West or Palin decide to run.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 3:58PM
How about Palin/West? I can dig it. They can both ride Harleys into Washington DC!!
Appleby| 6.2.11 @ 4:37PM
Mrs. Palin has GOT to have a voice coach before she runs for anything. She has a voice like a gnat. She needs to have someone teach her how to speak from her diaphragm, not the bridge of her nose.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 5:47PM
Palin has been working with a voice coach. You can tell in her speeches.
Try listening to her WORDS.
Pzkfw| 6.3.11 @ 12:55PM
Her WORDS...you must be kidding. All she says is vapid nonsense like "we need to support our country". Wow, that's it?
Riding a Harley? Wow, make her president.
All I hear is typical right-styled blather and proposes no solutions. You betcha!
When I start hearing some substance beyond "get rid of Obama" and "take back our country" BS from mouth, I'll start to listen. Until then she's just some right wing pretty-faced puppet-head that as no business running for president.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:17PM
You obviously haven't read Palin's books or taken the time to read her policy speeches in India and Israel.
Not only is Palin running for POTUS, she's going to win. Take that and stick it in your crackpipe, doofus.
skip| 6.4.11 @ 3:50PM
Pzkfw,
Can you provide some substance to prevent readers here from thinking all you've said is vapid nonsense and typical left-styled blather and other BS, by listing the proposed solutions of the democratic leadership since the November elections, and what business the current oval office occupant has in running the country?
darcy| 6.2.11 @ 5:53PM
You're right about that, Appleby. But IMHO, her gnatty voice is the least of the many factors that make her less than a promising candidate.
As for Mitt: mames is spot on about the Mormon thing -- not that I'd balk at it (given the Obama nightmare facing us) IF his politics were truly conservative; but I know for a fact that among many southern evangelicals, his Mormonism is a deal-breaker. Not now, not ever, will they vote for him. Secular types may be mystified by this, but it is nevertheless the way it is.
James| 6.2.11 @ 7:03PM
No matter what Romney's fans say, Mitt's RINOism is the deal-breaker for the nomination--not his religion.
It's even more shallow to fixate on a candidate's voice than someone's beliefs.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 7:42AM
Larry I think you've got something on a third place finish. If he does win I hope he sticks to fixing the economy and reversing the Obama agenda.
I'm less worried about Obamacare since I think he's pledged to repeal it. What I want are solid Republican majorities in both houses to send him the legislation and beat down the Democrat minority.
People who think Obama is unbeatable need remember Bill Clinton was the first and only two term Democrat since FDR.
Larry| 6.2.11 @ 7:48AM
Romney won't even be able to win Massachusetts, not that there are a lot of electoral votes there, but it's symbolic that in a state where people are now waiting approximately 55 days for doctor's appoinment, thanks to the bill that he signed.
Any of the Republican challengers who doesn't make that an issue, I won't even consider.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 8:06AM
He may win Iowa and NH, but he will fade in warmer climes. I think if Rick Perry jumps in, based on his network with state party workers, the Tea Party, business interests, etc. he'd be formidable. Pawlenty is a good guy, but not getting traction.
Anyone who is really interested in being President this is an incredible time to run with a failed Democrat creating the potential for a massive double dip recession or at best a mixture of depression in housing and overall economic stagnation.
darcy| 6.2.11 @ 6:04PM
Alright. I know this thread is not about Rick Perry. But do you really want a man in the WH who was so taken with "government knows best" and the drug lobby as to mandate that every public school high-school female must be given Gardasil? Does he even know how many deaths are attributable to Gardasil? Does he really believe that teen-age girls are ALL so sexually active that they must be vaccinated against cervical cancer? If so, then he presumes and assumes a degenerate and decadent culture and intends to enable it rather than to promote policies that build healthy and stable families.
The very reason our country is going to hell in a hand-basket is that far too many politicians are drinking big-government, crony-capitalist kool-aid -- and these are the better politicos. The more direct destroyers are playing from Mao's and Alinsky's playbooks. But it's those killing-us softly killers of America that we need to be on guard against -- they say all the right things and DO all the wrong things. Beware the RINO in sheep's clothing.
James| 6.2.11 @ 7:04PM
I didn't like Perry's Gardasil debacle either. I don't trust him after that power grab attempt.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:35AM
Perry can't even carry his own state. We hate him here... we just hate the people who run against him even more.
Perry is Gov because he has dirt on all the GOP leadership. Period.
Nobody special| 6.2.11 @ 2:52PM
If, like me, you can't vote for Romney or Obama, do what I plan to do if those are my two choices: vote for the libertarian, or write in Barry Soetoro as a vote against Romney while communicating to Obama, "we're onto you."
If we're going to have a statist in the white house for another four years, I'd rather have the one in there that will drive home the point that statism is doomed to failure. Just get the pain out of the way. Obama would be like jumping into cold water; Romney would be like trying to wade in slowly. Hopefully like a fast jump into cold water, the reaction in 2016 will be to elect a non-statist.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:26AM
Dear God I hope you're right!
martin j smith| 6.2.11 @ 7:03AM
Romney will not be nominated--Too much baggage. Little energy--and I doubt that he will say enough of anything to energize the base.
Now if the Republican Party wants to purposely lose as they did in 2008--he will be the nominee.( that is my opinion )
Nancy in NC| 6.2.11 @ 7:10AM
The GOP is infiltrated with "The Ruling Class" and progressives just like the Dems. They have a complete disconnect from the majority of voters and the American people.
The ethanol situation is a strong indicator that Romney is a RHINO in every sense of the word. The conservatives in the Republican party know the subsidies are Constitutionally wrong, forget the fact that with ethanol we are burning our food supply.
I wish I could move to Canada. Unfortunately all my eggs are in one basket. My life and ties are here, and I'm too old to change.
Appleby| 6.2.11 @ 11:23AM
Move to Canada? Do the words "frying pan" and "fire" ring any bells with you?
Scott| 6.2.11 @ 1:49PM
You are clueless if you think Canada is a solution. Its far more left-wing than anything you'd find in the states outside of NE and the West Coast.
emo| 6.2.11 @ 9:07PM
Youre clueless. Canada in a few years will be well well to the right of the USA.
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:37AM
Tham means the US will be "more lefter", not so much that Canada moved far to the right.
Shamus| 6.2.11 @ 7:11AM
Romney is next in line, so Republicans will go with him as their nominee. If the economy is really bad he could beat Obama.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 7:43AM
Actually, Palin is next in line as a failed VP, but that would be as bad or worse than Romney in the general election.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 2:12AM
She didn't head the ticket, moron. You are a fool.
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 1:40PM
Shamus, where did you get your crystal ball? I think it's on the fritz. "IF" the economy is really bad...???
I agree with those who are sick of yesterday's Republicans. AND there are many good possible candidates out there, e.g., Herman Cain, Sarah Palin hopefully, Rick Perry hopefully, Michelle Bachmann...it's the MSM that makes people think it's weak. They lie. AND I agree...I'll vote for whoever ends up with the nomination. NO MORE OBAMA. PERIOD.
Shamus| 6.4.11 @ 11:01AM
My crystal ball was damaged at the bowling alley.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 2:13AM
Along with your brain?
Rogue Elephant| 6.2.11 @ 7:35AM
Romney is Barack Obama's second term. If Romney gets the GOP nomination, he will likely lose to Obama. If he wins, his policies (Obamacare, cap-and-trade) will be the same. Either way, Obama gets a second term.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 7:44AM
Since WWII there have been only 2 two term Democrat Presidents -- FDR and Clinton. Obama is a lame duck with a Jimmy Carter economy.
SpiralArchitect| 6.2.11 @ 12:36PM
ACORN = voter fraud
Patrick| 6.2.11 @ 2:42PM
WI = Voter ID as of last month. Huge demographic shifts to occur, what with practically halving the enormous amount of vote fraud that goes on around here. It won't get rid of it, as Milwaukee and Madison have not been wiped from the face of this earth, but it's an improvement.
Mimi| 6.2.11 @ 7:35AM
If it was 2008 like today...Mitt would roll into town and win the prize, NO PROB! But as we all know...TIMES have changed. We no longer will be satisfied with " the next in line". He looks like a PRES, has finesse, sure would do....but it is someone else we are needing and wanting for our wounded , beat-up NATION. We have as a whole gone back to the days of the FOUNDERS, where there was an abundance of HONOR & INTEGRITY. Unless we get a sharp bend to our CONSERVATIVE values and an appreciation of where we are ...Mitt Romney will fade!
Texas Chris| 6.3.11 @ 7:39AM
To that I say Have You Met Ron Paul?
But no, they all say he's crazy.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:19PM
Ron Paul will never be POTUS but his son may be some day.
dee see| 6.2.11 @ 7:41AM
The latest Tavistock Institute fakeout
to manage the ever more dysfunctional
Mall of America (---or is it Malling?).
MEANWHILE cowards and zombies one
and all REFUSE to show for duty, or even
call the reality of the Banker Bailout,
the 1.4 in FAKE derivatives debt, the long
engineered systematic disabling of the
Republic ---or the greatest, MOST disturbing
TREASON op history has ever seen.
Remember kiddies, in the Soviet and later
Nazi horror shows of the 30's people could,
sometimes, legitimately claim they
'didn't know'.
-------------WE DO KNOW.
Now, decide among yourelves, is it the
programming? --the cyber blackmailing?
---the dumb down and weaponised injections?
---the tainted GM foods, microwaves and
CHEM-trails (now BTW going into their
12th year of non-existence)?
OR is it just plain old rectum worshipping?
YOU DECIDE
Ryan| 6.2.11 @ 8:44AM
I'm voting for Dee See. He's convinced me.
Nunya| 6.2.11 @ 11:12AM
It really would be nice if you could come up with a coherent post.
Dave Williams| 6.2.11 @ 12:57PM
I think you'd see those monkeys in a room come up with a letter-perfect "Hamlet" first...
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 1:42PM
Say what???
Tim the Enchanter| 6.2.11 @ 2:35PM
What's the difference between the Mafia and Dee See? The Mafia makes you an offer you can't refuse. Dee See makes you an offer you can't understand.
sandcrab| 6.2.11 @ 7:42AM
If Romney is nominated, I won't vote. It's as simple as that.
Mattled| 6.2.11 @ 7:50AM
Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit wrote a few months ago that he would vote for a syphilictic camel on any ticket to get rid of Obama. My neighbor forced me to vote McCain and my vote was against media corruption more than anything.
We must fire Obama at ALL COSTS. Period.
Nunya| 6.2.11 @ 11:16AM
Mattled, I agree with your sentiment about firing Obozo at all costs. Unfortunately, the Ruling Class Republicans have been putting out nothing but RINO's of late (McLame, W, Bob Dope before him), so all we've accomplished is to go down the same fiscally irresponsible road, just at different paces. Obozo is racing us down the road at breakneck speet, W was trotting us along, but it was the same road--financial ruin. Voting in a RINO is only slightly better than voting for Obozo, the end game is the same.
Kelly Staples| 6.2.11 @ 7:50AM
The only thing authentic about Mitt is what a phoney he is. Sarah. . . we're waiting!
Ted Agnew| 6.2.11 @ 7:50AM
In 2008 I left POTUS blank and voted down ticket for real conservatives. I have no regrets and will do it again. I don't do RINOS. McCain and Romeny prove that there is NOT a dime's worth of difference between the parties.
Larry| 6.2.11 @ 7:59AM
I understand where you're coming from Ted, but there is some difference.
I didn't like McCain at all, but was forced to vote for him mainly as a vote against Obama. If McCain had won, do you think that we'd now have McCaincare? I don't. If McCain had won, do you think we'd have affirmative action garbage on the court such as Kagen and the unwise latina Sotomayor? I don't. If McCain had won, would he be trying to throw Israel under the bus? Would he be selling out our allies such as Poland by reneging on missle defense? Would our relationships with other allies be at a low point? Would he be supporting the so-called Arab Spring which is really just a terrorist movement supported in large part by Iran? Would he have gone on the apology tour? Would his attorney general have ignored videotape of voter intimidation? Cash for clunkers? It goes on and on. Yes, there is most definitely a difference between the two parties. Not as much as you and I would like, but there is.
Teaghan| 6.2.11 @ 8:14AM
Larry, thank you for the reminder. Really.
I will NOT vote if Romney is on the ticket.
Another Rhino on parade.
Mimi| 6.2.11 @ 8:21AM
Larry you said it all....GREAT POST !!
Larry| 6.2.11 @ 8:24AM
Thank you Mimi. :-)
SpiralArchitect| 6.2.11 @ 12:39PM
Brilliant logic. A liber is always better than anyhting except the (read:your perfect ) candidate.
So a Liberal, esp. an extreme Liberal, is much superior than a RHINO.
Oh yes, you are a wise one, Ted.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 7:59AM
"It's also highly contingent on Sarah Palin and other potential top-tier candidates staying out of the race." Aside from "personality" what does Sarah Palin bring to the table? I'm afraid if she does get in Romney will clinch the nomination (Huckabee was the best thing that happened to McCain).
We need to drop the old GOP allegiance to nominating a failed VP (Dole/Palin) or the runner-up (McCain/Romney). A Governor would be the best bet, but there are some other good candidates -- Perry, Pawlenty, DeMint, Cain, Christie (minus the helicopter trips), Ryan, Thune (he could change his mind), Pence (like Pence he could change his mind and would be slam dunk), McCotter, longshots Bush or Bolton. . . For Veep Rubio, Cain, Ryan, West, DeMint, Pawlenty, McDonnell, Barbour . . .
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:25AM
LOL...anyone but Palin. No thanks, I'm standing with the real conservative. PALIN 2012
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 9:43AM
Please tell me, besides being McCain's running mate, why she should be the anointed Republican nominee? Is there something in her short time as Governor of Alaska that stands out (she did work with Democrats to break the GOP-Oil Industry good ole boy network)? How many of her supporters know what she did as Mayor or Governor? She energized the base in 2008, but how hard was that with McCain running a No Doz campaign?
What are her positions and what record will she run on (hopefully the Republican will have the good sense to run against Obama's record too)? Does she support supply-side economics or is she a protectionist? How does she feel about fighting Islamic imperialism – does she side with Rand Paul or Allen West? Can she explain and defend the premium support system for reforming Medicare? What ideas does she bring to the table?
Like them or not, but Cain, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Romney and Santorum are at least willing to get out there and risk it for the nomination. If it is just an “anti-establishment” itch then Obama (who can be crushed) will have a better chance at being re-elected. If it is the desire for charisma or something new then what makes that different than Democrats and Obama? We're not electing a prom king/queen. It is going to take hard work to staunch and then reverse the disaster Obama has set in motion. We don't need a cheerleader we need a leader something we've sorely missed the last 2 years.
That she was a running mate on a failed ticket doesn’t give her anymore claim to the nomination than Romney/Huckabee being second fiddle. We’ve gone down that path before and it just doesn’t work in the end. If she’s really interested then she should stop the bus tour and declare herself a candidate, get in there and give us a reason, beyond emotion, to vote for her.
Nunya| 6.2.11 @ 11:26AM
Mike, well stated. I like Palin, but I have no idea on where she stands on many of the issues you bring up--and I don't know if she's stated them or not. I think her enthusiasm is great, I like the fact that she supports the Tea Party, but beyond that I don't know nearly enough about her to say she would get my vote.
The other thing about Palin is that it seems you either like her or hate her--there's no in between. She's very polarizing, and I don't know that would be a good trait for a Presidential candidate.
Dan Hirsch| 6.2.11 @ 11:42AM
Look at the following:
"Death panels" Sarah tweets that phrase, fifteen minutes later Pelosi and Reid almost collide scraping it out of their healthcare program.
"Drill baby drill" Bush mutters something like it as President in October 2008 and oil prices fall from $140/barrel to under $40/bbl in three months.
The bus tour last weekend - the Lamestream media cannot stop complaining that they cannot cover her properly, yet they cannot stop talking about her.
As Kathryn Hepburn once said, "Star power? I don't know what it is, but I've got it."
Well, Sarah Palin may not know what it is but, man oh man, she's got it big time!
As did Ronald Reagan.
As Mark Belling of WISN Milwaukee said, Sarah Palin got more coverage in three days with her family bus trip than the entire Republican field got in the first five months of this year.
The only reason Sarah won't run is if somebody else jumps to the front of the pack and will work with her.
Name them all, her two biggest obstacles are the unkowns, Perry and Christie. Perry has not shown any significant star power - Christie has shown some, but he does have a lot of not-so-conservative baggage.
Meanwhile, like any good athlete, Sarah is not peaking too early. (Like Hillary did, and Romney is.) She'll smartly (She is such a dumbell!) keep her powder dry and stay aloof until the moment she thinks is right. Then the fun will begin.
Don't forget - there is no such thing as 'bad' publicity...
SpiralArchitect| 6.2.11 @ 12:42PM
If Palin wins a GOP ticket one of the others, at least, will not be able to sit the rest of the race on the sidelines.
Ryan| 6.2.11 @ 3:34PM
Reagan could concisely and accurately state his beliefs in an intelligent manner on a vast array of political subjects. We really haven't heard much more than bumper stickers from Palin.
Reagan governed California. Palin governed Alaska. BIG difference.
Sorry, but, for me, Palin is just...missing something. I appreciate her ability to rile up the press, but I think that there are more astute and capable politicians currently running.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:01PM
Palin is the only one on our side who has any balls.
She can beat Obama; none of the remaining Republican stiffs can say the same.
Pzkfw| 6.3.11 @ 1:08PM
Great Post!
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:20PM
You're both ignorant.
Kitty| 6.2.11 @ 9:17AM
'Aside from "personality" what does Sarah Palin bring to the table?'
On which issues (issue) do you disagree with Sarah Palin?
Michael Tomlinson| 6.2.11 @ 10:00AM
What do you disagree with Pawlenty about? How about Cain? Is there something you don't like about Santorum? I know what I don't like with Romney (Antle brought up the big one) and Gingrich (his pandering to the media on Medicare). For those that aren’t running I have a good idea why I like or don’t like them – not a fan of Huckabbee’s tax and spend Governorship, but like his social values and don’t get a warm fuzzy with Christie and the Second Amendment . . .
What does Palin believe beyond the verbal trappings of the conservative movement? Conservatives love family, Reagan (for me his supply-side economics and winning the Cold War), the Constitution (w/ deference to 1 & 2), most conservatives love the military, but not all, patriotism and apple pie, etc..
Palin needs to go beyond sound bites and harangues against the “elite” and DC. I don’t throw my votes away on the anointed “one,” because they were a failed VP candidate or second best and it's their turn (I didn’t vote for Bush 41, Dole or McCain in the primaries).
I vote for the message and the policies rather than the messenger in the primaries. Ultimately, I will vote for the GOP nominee and do what I can to help them win.
Kitty| 6.2.11 @ 10:16AM
Pawlenty's decided not to run. I like Cain and I'd vote for him. Same for Santorum. But my question to you concerned Palin.
Maybe you haven't looked into Palin "beyond the sound bites" as I have. I knew of Palin before McCain ever chose her. I had heard she took on the corruption in her own party, and that impressed the heck outta me. It was Sarah Palin who got me to choke back the bile and vote for that Progressive Republican McC. If she's the candidate, I'll absolutely know why I'll be voting for her, and it won't be for any nebulous ideals of Mom and apple pie.
Did you imply that Sarah Palin is 'the anointed “one,”' because that's absurd!
Ryan| 6.2.11 @ 3:36PM
Pawlenty not running? Bad information.
He's in.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:01PM
So what? Pawlenty has the charisma of a corpse and he's unelectable.
Occam's Tool| 6.3.11 @ 12:46AM
Pawlenty has the charisma of a corpse? That much?
Still, if he got the nomination (in Minnesota, it's our neighbors that do the deciding for us), I'd vote for him over Obama. Only Ron Paul would make me stay home.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:22PM
Barely that much. Why did he stand by and let that moron Franken-stein steal the election?
What's up with his cap n trade BS?
He's a RINO like Romney.
Kitty| 6.2.11 @ 5:34PM
My bad. Thanks for the info. I think I confused him with Daniels announcing he wasn't running.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 5:48PM
You can't tell the stiffs apart. lol
Michael Tomlinson| 6.3.11 @ 11:56PM
Kitty,
I believe I was the first person to write TAS suggesting McCain choose Palin for a running mate. Like today’s Rubio’s, West’s, Rand Paul's, Christie’s, etc... there seemed real potential in this new Governor of Alaska, but since the failed McCain effort she's resigned as Governor of Alaska, been hired by FOX, had a reality TV show, been a prominent spokesperson for the Tea Party (they claim not to have leaders, but if they did Plain is one) and endorsed some good candidates (not all conservatives) who were elected and some really bad ones who weren't (helping Democrat hold onto the Senate).
She is a great spokesperson or cheerleader for the Tea Party (a populist and not always conservative movement). But we’re not electing a great Press Secretary. Nor do I think we need another lightweight after Obama.
Having been the running mate in a failed campaign if the GOP follows its tradition she would be the anointed successor (Bob Dole). Based on her supporter’s posts you seem to think she deserves it automatically without critical analysis – she should be anointed without protest or scrutiny.
If she decides to run and wins the nomination I will vote for her. Of those running I lean towards Cain (a seriously successful self-made man) and Pawlenty who is a sound social conservative, strong on national defense, governed a blue state as a conservative and has the common sense to see he’s been wrong on some issues in the past. (I appreciate he’s repudiated some of his past positions on Cap ‘n Trade, medical mandates, etc.). He's also taking real stands on real issues the most recent being ethanol. Where does Sarah Palin stand on that? At least Romney told us where he stands.
Tell her to give up the ego tour, declare and then lets see what happens.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 2:14AM
Pull your head out of your sexist ass, moron.
Handy| 6.2.11 @ 8:05AM
More exposure of Mitt, please. He is already tiresome; and with 16 months to go, his poll numbers will be in negative territory.
Kitty| 6.2.11 @ 9:12AM
HA HA HA, I LOVE your idea!
Brubaker| 6.2.11 @ 8:19AM
There's simply no way that Romney and Romneycare can possibly defeat an incumbent Obama and Obamacare.
I held my nose and voted for McCain in 2008, but if Romney is the best that the GOP can offer in 2012, I'll be joining the many millions who will just stay home.
Harry the Horrible| 6.2.11 @ 8:56AM
For what very little it is worth, I'll have my say in the Primary. Cain (and Palin if she runs) are my front runners.
But no matter who the 'Pubbies put up for President, I'm voting AGAINST Obama in the General Election.
SpiralArchitect| 6.2.11 @ 12:43PM
Edit: that's RHINOCare, thx.
PattyMor| 6.2.11 @ 8:39AM
Come'on Iowans. Don't be swayed by the RINO Romney. He will be another failed, next in line Rat candidate, right along side, Bob Dole and Juan McCain.
We need a true conservative to lead our country back to fiscal sanity. No, never, noway, nohow
no RINO's. A true conservative to not only unelect the 'Bamster, but to corral the Rat Party
and get them to do the budget and regulatory cutting we need.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:43AM
We don't have to settle. FIGHT FOR PALIN! Go to Organize4Palin and get involved so she will know we support her.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:02PM
Yes!! PALIN 2012!!
Bert| 6.2.11 @ 8:49AM
Romney would be a disaster as the GOP candidate .
He fathered Obamacare which will wipe out the US treasury in a few short years . The man is a cold clueless elite with zero charm. He is the only option outside of Newt that could Loose to the Marxist Muslim - Soros puppet .No wonder the Soros media machine is promoting him.
Lady Gator| 6.2.11 @ 8:59AM
How can Gov. Romney lose? With authors and pundits criticizing and repeating the talking points of the liberal media, that's how. By continuing to raise irrelevant issues from the past, that proven problem solver and fiscal leader, former governor, Mitt Romney is a 'flip floppper on abortion" etc.
I take issue with the comparison of him with former '08 nominee, Sen. John McCain. Mitt Romney is nothing like John McCain, in ideology, on judicial selections, on illegal immigration, his age, his demeanor, or his integrity or his recond fiscally. Mitt Romney's family is a role model for the nation. They are a much needed breath of fresh air not unlike classic Norman Rockwell paintings in today's moral culture which has gone astray.
Republicans should be elevating and pointing to his stellar fiscal achievements in the private sector at Bain Capital, the financial turn arounds with Staples, Office Depot, and Dominos Pizza, or closing a massive 3 billion dollar deficit in Massachusetts as governor, and as a volunteer, headed up the Olympics, rectifying a 100 million dollar debt at Salt Lake in 2002 and turning a profit for a hundred million dollars, with no breach in security, shortly after 9-11.
Gov. Romney admitted he made a mistake on the issue of abortion once he faced Embyonic Stem Cell Research legislation at the state level (unlike Sen. John McCain who still supports it) and never as governor, did Romney sign or enact bills to advance abortion rights, unlike a Republican hero, then California governor, Ronald Reagan, who is never referred to as a "flip flopper," but he expanded abortion rights for the entire state of California as governor.
The point is, that people make mistakes and they change their opinion when shown the truth, and should not be labeled as "flip floppers." Ronald Reagan admitted the same mistake on that issue, but ran as a pro-life candidate for President.
The reason he may win the nomination is not that it's "Romney's turn," or that he is the "establish pick;" he will earn his support based on his capability to lead and his past record financially as "Mr Fix it."
Ask yourself this question, is four more years of Pres. Obama's hope and change what you want in a diminished America which is financially bankrupt? Or would you prefer a proven leader, who is a capitalist, who understands successful economic policy, the role of limited government, respect and defense of human life and American liberty?
Voters must take back the White House in '12 with proven conservative leadership, losing is not an option; neither are double digits in unemployment, Obamacare, or $4.00 a gallon for gas.
W. James Antle III | 6.2.11 @ 2:42PM
"How can Romney lose? With authors and pundits criticizing and repeating the talking points of the liberal media, that's how."
You haven't pointed to a "talking point" that is actually false.
Ryan| 6.2.11 @ 3:37PM
Woah, hey there Romney staffer!
Lady Gator| 6.2.11 @ 7:51PM
Nope, not a staffer, a conservative Catholic Republican and supporter of Mitt Romney. He is a good man and genuine, and so is Ann Romney. Our country would be blessed to have them in the White House.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 7:55PM
You're not much of a "Catholic" if you support Romney--not much of a pro-life Catholic anyway.
How can you tell which Romney is genuine?
Ryan| 6.3.11 @ 8:32AM
It's hard to tell - the staffers tend to show up with similar cut-and-paste commentary.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 2:15AM
Cardboard like their candidate.
Peppermint Tea| 6.2.11 @ 8:59AM
I like Mitt...if only he could get a personality and drop everything he wants to do for the country. Do us a favor and shrink government.
Palin, Cain, even Bachman have personalities.
JimH| 6.2.11 @ 9:24AM
The elephant in the room regarding Romney is his religion. I see a lot of argument on this site between some Catholics and Protestants as to the true faith. Are people with this attitude prepared to accept a Mormon?
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:04PM
Romney's religion is his business; big government RomneyCare is OUR business. Mitt will NEVER be nominated--he has way too much RINO baggage.
C Smith| 6.2.11 @ 9:25AM
MORMONS: [The Encyclopedia Britannica, Thirteenth Edition, London, vol. 18, pp. 842-843, 1926]… a religious sect founded by Joseph Smith… born… December 1805 at Sharon… Vermont, from which place… his parents, who like his grandparents were superstitious, neurotic, seers of visions, and believers in miraculous cures and in heavenly voices and direct revelation, removed to New York, where they settled on a small farm… Joseph, a good natured, lazy boy, suffering from a bad heredity physically and psychically, began to have visions which seem to have accompanied epileptoid seizures… from which he recovered apparently before he became of age. The boy’s father was a digger for hidden treasure… the son became a crystal gazer and by the use of a “peep-stone” discovered the whereabouts of pretended hidden treasure.
He [Smith] said… that on the night of the 21st of September 1823 the angel Moroni appeared to him three times, and told him that the Bible of the western continent, the supplement to the New Testament, was buried on a hill called Cumorah, now commonly known as Mormon Hill….
It was not until the 22nd of September of 1827 that (as he said) he dug up, on the hill near Manchester, a stone box, in which was a volume… made of thin gold plates… and fastened together by three gold rings. The plates were covered with small writing [supposedly of the reformed Egyptian tongue]… with the golden book Smith claimed that he found a breastplate of gold and a pair of supernatural spectacles, consisting of two crystals set in a silver bow, and called “Urim and Thummin”; by aid of these the mystic characters could be read. Being himself unable to read or write fluently, Smith employed as amanuenses: first Martin Harris… then his own wife, Emma; after the middle of April 1829, Oliver Cowdery, a blacksmith and school teacher, and David Whitmer; to them , from behind a curtain, he dictated a translation, for the printing and publishing of which Martin Harris paid, in spite of the continued opposition of his wife to the scheme. An edition of 5000 copies of The Book of Mormon was printed early in 1830… Soon afterwards, according to Smith, the plates disappeared, being taken away by the angel Moroni.
The Book of Mormon, in which Joseph Smith was declared to be God’s “prophet,” with all power and entitled to all obedience, professes to give the history of America from its first settlement by a colony of “Jaredites” from among the crowd dispersed by the confusion of tongues at the Tower of Babel down to the year 5 A.D.
http://popularapostasy.blogspo.....ummin.html
Steve A| 6.2.11 @ 10:11AM
Mormonism is a cult founded by a complete whackjob. If you are just a surface Mormon & JC is the center of your focus, you are fine.
Dave Williams| 6.2.11 @ 5:17PM
....and christianity ISN'T?????
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 7:56PM
No, but Marxism is.
buckeyeman| 6.2.11 @ 10:26AM
".... superstitious, neurotic, seers of visions, and believers in miraculous cures and in heavenly voices and direct revelation...."
Well, this sounds like almost every religious person that I know.
Steve A| 6.2.11 @ 12:45PM
buckeye, You need to get out a bit more & put the remote down. Turn off MSNBC & lay off the sit coms for a few days.
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 1:45PM
And I bet you didn't even have to strain your brain for that statement. I doubt if you know any.
Occam's Tool| 6.3.11 @ 12:48AM
Doesn't sound like most of the ones I know. Texas Christian Jewish Alum, here.
That Guy| 6.3.11 @ 12:27PM
Christianity is MONOTHEISTIC, Mormonism is POLYTHEISTIC, therefore Mormonism cannot be Christian. This is not conjecture or a biased slur. Mormon doctrine states that male Mormons be come gods in the afterlife. Mormons do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Claiming to be "Christians just like all the others," is a falsehood and an insult to authentic Christians. It would be like a Cajun from South Louisiana claimed to be a Muslim one day. He continued to drink alcohol, eat pork, and attend Catholic church services. That did not make make that man any more a Muslin than Mormons claiming to be Christian make them authentic
Christians.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:24PM
So? Barry's a closet Muslim; I'd rather have Mitt.
Derek Leaberry| 6.2.11 @ 9:26AM
Mitt Romney is pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, supports open-border immigration, absolute free trade, enacted the precursor to Obamacare in Massachusetts and, as a businessman, engaged in unsavory and cannibalistic business practices. He would say and do anything to get elected. Mitt Romney must be destroyed politically.
David C| 6.2.11 @ 2:01PM
BINGO!!!! I will determine who I absolutely will NOT support for in the primaries, keep my powder dry until the field is set for those I will support, and then work like everything to remove Obama and put true conservatives in Congress. First step of analyis, No Romney -- insincere, unprincipled, silver-spooned, unconservative. No more.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:04PM
I agree!
MATT M.| 6.2.11 @ 9:57AM
Romney will be the nominee.
Anyone who does not vote or does not vote for the Republican nominee will be voting for BHO. This is FACT not opinion.
Dan Hirsch| 6.2.11 @ 11:50AM
Matt:
A "fact" cannot contain the verb "will" as an expression of future tense. Facts are things that have happened or exist already. You disqualify your conclusion by its very falsity...
SpiralArchitect| 6.2.11 @ 1:04PM
If you take a blade to your arm and cut deeply, you will bleed.
Explain once again how that is not a fact?
Dan Hirsch| 6.2.11 @ 6:41PM
Typical architect, all about space, no substance, flimsy, awkward structure...
Merriam Webster defines a fact as :
1: a thing done:
as a obsolete : feat
b : crime
c archaic : action
2 archaic : performance, doing
3: the quality of being actual : actuality
4 : something that has actual existence
>a "space exploration is now a fact"
> b : an actual occurrence
5 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality
If I stick a blade into my arm and I happen to be dead, I will NOT bleed...if the blade is 400 degrees Fahrenheit I won't bleed, if the blade is real dull, I won't bleed...I can, but won't continue
His use of the word fact is WRONG - so Matt M's conclusion is still falsified.
Also, Sarah Palin and her big bus showed up in NH today, sucking the life out of Mitt's big, hopelessly unsurprising announcement.
Mr. Romney remains his father's son, the fellow who inadvertently ended his 1968 Presidential campaign by mentioning that his brain had been washed on his recent trip to Viet Nam.
Sorry, Romneycare takes away Romney's biggest weapon against BHO, Obamacare. Might as well nominate Sen. McCain again...
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:05PM
Matt's a Romney hack in deep denial.
Anthony| 6.2.11 @ 10:09AM
Romeny has come out from behind Sarah Palin's skirt to finally take on Obozo.
Wow, what leadership. Kinda reminds me of the other faint-hearted "conservative" who loves to appear on MTP to show his bi-partisan bona fides, Mr. Newt.
Go away Romeny, and take your fellow R cowards with you. We need a real leader and fighter to take on Obozo, and it ain't you pal.
Al Adab| 6.2.11 @ 11:04AM
Whether Romney could win is not the issue. Even were he to do so, so what? East coast Republicanism is only marginally better than "moderate Democrats". That wing of the party opposed the Conservative movement from it's inception and opposed Reagan to the end in '76 and '80. At least with a Dem in the White House, the guilt dfor America's collapse will fall on the right people. Romney does not represent an alternative that can rescue the economy or restore Liberty.
Lady Gator| 6.2.11 @ 7:55PM
You are wrong. He is not a RINO. He is a fiscal conservative and pro-life.
Romney has a proven record in financial turnarounds. Do some research on his record.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 7:58PM
Please stop! RINO Romney's RomneyCare has been a disaster for Mass! We have done our research.
Albert| 6.2.11 @ 11:12AM
Romney wants to run again. wow. snore... My question for Mr. Romney is simple: "Why?" Why is Romney running again? Because he truly, deeply, honestly,thinks he can do well for these United States? Or because his inflated ego tells him he should have the job? I suspect it is the latter which puts him in the company of our exteeeeemed President Bozo and the treasonous Bill Clinton. Romney? I would make a better President myself.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.2.11 @ 11:16AM
FOLKS...Thank youse.
I have just had one of them there EPIHANIES AFTER YOUR POSTS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone...everyone...and I mean everyone...is all about winning the "moderate middle". Screw the so-called "moderate middle"!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys muttering about not voting are the problem...
*If our country goes down to the communists...IT'S YOUR DAMNED FAULT!
Sitting on your ass last election day brought us to this point. Bullets in your neck may be the result...dumbasses!
The last presidential election turned on a couple of million votes.......... and you DUMBASSES STAYED HOME?
What about all your friends and family? Did you turn them off to the extent that they let this regime into office to kill our country?
Lookee here you stupid dumbasses; You must beg, plead, and bribe all of your inbred dumbass cousins to go cancel a communist vote.
The ONLY reason Obama and crew won in 2008 was you cretins were having a hissy fit....along with all of your inbred halfwit cousins and beer drinking buddies staying home.
You go look at the election returns!
You tell ME the number of lazy/hissy dumbasses that sat on their asses and let this administration happen.
Dumbasses, because of ya'll, we might have to have a civil war with millions of needless deaths...of Americans...because of your hissy fits.
DON'T SHUT UP!
Instead, work your dumbasses off to get the best candidates we can nominate, and if Daffy Duck is the best we can offer to defeat the communists, so be it!
From now on... I am going to copy/paste this comment every single time I read one of you dumbasses talking about sitting home or throwing your vote away.
Why?
Because you are thereby forcing me to fight a shooting war...dumbasses!
Dan Hirsch| 6.2.11 @ 12:03PM
Ken, Ol' boy;
Thanks for your energy and clarity. You are right, it's the stay at homes who let the pursuit of the perfect derail the pursuit of the possible.
There are many good things going on here, but one of the most salient is the fact that the economy is so clearly the problem. And everyone, even the media know it.
BHO can't even find a single talking point to address it, much less bring himself do anything useful or helpful about it. When Pelosi votes NOT to raise the debt ceiling, BHO's invisible robes completely evaporate - you can't just see through them, they're just GONE!He's cold, naked and just, well, little. McCain running with Sen. Graham as VP would walk over Obama if they could just call him on his policy failures...
It's darkest before the dawn, and I see good things, if as you, Ken, suggest: "ALL YOU DUMB ASSES VOTE EVEN IF YOUR FAVORITE DOES NOT MAKE THE CUT!!!"
Our biggest problem right now is how we can hang on if BHO outlasts the SCOTUS's conservatives. Look at what's happening in Wisconsin! Every thing, election results, legislation, budget is taken directly to court even before enactment so that a liberal, progressive judge can just slap it and us down.
DO NOT STAY HOME - DON'T EVEN THREATEN IT OR YOUR FREEDOMS WILL EVAPORATE, REAL FAST.
Remember, Texas is the only state that was a country first...
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 1:50PM
Take a Xanax. Put down the beer. Learn English. Why don't you save your rage for liberals and O. Try punching a pillow if you need to vent. Or do you just seriously hate everyone?
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:06PM
Ken doesn't hate anybody, he's just worried for our country's future. You should be, too.
simon templar| 6.2.11 @ 5:50PM
Ken is absolutely correct. He may or may not know it but there are statistics to back this up as well as the estimates as to how many republican idiots votes for this poser as well. I have been saying the same thing for years..apathy..stupidity stubborness, and uninformed citizens keep helping them win. They are a small portion of this society. Its been in our hands to conserve this country and its foundational principles all along. If the last election and the emergence of the Tea Party and its effect on the body politic does not shout that you will never hear it. Let them that have ears, hear.
Occam's Tool| 6.3.11 @ 12:51AM
I agree, Ken.
I just think Paul is to the LEFT of Obama on foreign policy issues, especially the most important one. Otherwise, with the exception of the pothead, if Romney, Palin, Pawlenty, Cain, Bolton, West, Bachmann (Turner Overdrive) were to be nominated, I'd vote for them, and donate time and money.
fmm| 6.2.11 @ 12:11PM
When Romney quit the campaign in 2008 he gave a speech which was probably the only time he did not play the flip flop game. He realized the game was over and honestly stated his beliefs. If he had done this earlier, he would have beaten McLoser easily for the nomination. But he has forgotten that time and is back to the old politically expedient ways. Totally boring.
joby| 6.2.11 @ 1:16PM
He's going to need his $10M to defend is Socialized health care mess in mass. Mandates or freedom, cant have both Mitt. Republicans aren't that stupid. Ron Paul is a much better choice!
Jamie W.| 6.2.11 @ 1:20PM
Best case scenario: Republicans, especially Tea Partiers, coalesce behind a transformative true conservative leader. If, however, Romney gets the nomination, it is our duty to vote for him - not because he's anything but a suck candidate, but because he is NOT OBAMA. If he is in office, it will be much easier to maintain pressure and direct things the way they need to go than if Obama remains there. We'll have the Senate, we will probably retain the House; with that in place, Romney, a flip-flopper and politician to the core, will not dare go against the will of the party what brung him.
Rowan | 6.2.11 @ 1:26PM
If Romney is the nominee, I am sitting out the election. No more establishment moderates "going along to get along."
Rosco1776| 6.2.11 @ 1:26PM
Romney.....Palin....Cain.....ZZZzzz....
Ron Paul 2012!!
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 2:03PM
Cain? Really? Did you watch the debate?
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:07PM
Ron Paul's an odd outlier--he'll never be nominated.
Steven Burgess| 6.2.11 @ 1:31PM
If it comes down to Barry or Mitt I would vote for Barry as much as he stinks as a president.
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 2:04PM
Why?
Steven Burgess| 6.2.11 @ 2:30PM
Because good old Mitt and Bain Capital for 20 years destroyed every blue collar and middle class job they could. The only companies and business that Bain and good old Mitt were involved with that made money and didn't go out bankrupt were the ones that they didn't have full control. If you check the records, the companies and business that Bain and good old Mitt got full control were raped for the equity. First thing Bain did was fire the workers and then hire them back as part-time employees. Then the good old boy's from Bain would sell everything that was paid for. They then paid themselves million's and million's dollars of salary and bonuses. When there was nothing left they walked away. The first time good old Mitt ran I was going to vote for him and was mad when he didn't get the nod. Since then I check up on him and found out this information. Now he wants the us to vote for him. Fat chance. Don't take my word for it check up on him for yourself. I don't see how any blue collar or middle class American could vote for him.
Jbb| 6.2.11 @ 2:42PM
In other words, you're going to bite off your nose to spite your face.
Al Adab| 6.2.11 @ 3:49PM
Correct. At least that way Conservatives, like Cato, will share no blame in the collapse of America into tyranny.
Steven Burgess| 6.3.11 @ 6:28AM
Not really with barry in the white house and repubs in charge in both houses, it might slow down the free trade deals which are sending the middle class in a race to the bottom.
Dan Hirsch| 6.2.11 @ 6:47PM
Steven, Steven, Steven,
How many jobs has BHO destroyed in just three years?
Look at it this way, even if Mitt was going to decapitalize the USA for his own benefit as you claimed he did at Bain, (A proposition I do not accept as fact.) Mitt'd be smart enough not to destroy the economy first as BHO is doing.
Sheesh.
Steven Burgess| 6.3.11 @ 12:11PM
Does is matter how jobs Barry lost, if Mitt is going to do the same thing. It doesn't matter that you don't accept as fact what I wrote. If good old Mitt is the Re pub nominee, his Bain record will be in the news 24 hours a day prior to the election. I can see Morning Joe and boys bringing in people from the companies that were run out of business. Why do you think the msm is pushing him so hard. Most of the people who are saying Mitt is the only one who can beat Barry, voted for Barry. So why talk Mitt so most. So they can tear him down just before the vote. Dan Dan Dan you should put down your earnings report from your investment in 3rd world countries, made with children working for pennies a day and see what's happening to our country.
Jeff | 6.2.11 @ 1:54PM
America needs a real patriot in the white house. One who understands fiscal conservatism, private property rights, humble foreign policy, constitutional restraint of government, and was an air force flight surgeon and delivered more than 4000 babies. Ron Paul 2012.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:57PM
It'll never happen, Jeff. You can put your crackpipe down now.
Jeff | 6.2.11 @ 1:59PM
the fact that Romney raised $10 million in a single day should raise some red flags. Romney is already a bought politician that can't be trusted.
Intelligent Design| 6.2.11 @ 2:07PM
Romney's position is this: It's okay for the States (such as MA with Romneycare) to require you to buy a product (medical insurance) or pay a fine, but it's not okay for the federal government to do the same thing with Obamacare. What's next? Will it be okay for the States to require us to take a certain vitamin or drug deemed essential for public health, or be fined? How about forcing men with an IQ less than 117 to have vasectomies? Let's tell families they are limited to one child because more humans are bad for the "environment"? Romney flunks the IQ test, and the RINO smell test too. He's probably intestable :)
I like Rick Perry, Governor of Texas, because he is a solid conservative who speaks with conviction and confidence. He acts on his principles, not on a reading of the wind direction from the latest poll. Reminds me of Reagan.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:58PM
I don't like what he did trying to force Gardisil on Texas teenagers. Perry's a non-starter for me.
Old Soldier| 6.2.11 @ 2:27PM
How can Romney lose?
The same way that McCain lost. In the debates Obama laid out the big government positions. McCain never called him on anything - he just laid out his slightly smaller goverment positions on the same issues. It was lib versus lib-lite. Why vote for lib-lite?
Reagan won big by contrasting himself with the liberals - McCain lost and Bush almost lost by trying to appease them.
Jeamar37| 6.2.11 @ 2:44PM
DeeSee's form, though not necessarily strange content, seems to become more intelligible the more often you read his/her posts. Reminds me of the Beat poets.
I picture this person as a female.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:58PM
No dummy either.
RCV| 6.2.11 @ 2:58PM
TAS readers' posts above are further confirmation that he GOP has little chance of prevailing next year. The party base is simply no longer a cohesive unit; it is made up of three very different groups, each with its own agenda: traditional Republicans, libertarians and social conservatives/tea party activists (even this third group is fundamentally fractured between people whose primary concern is economic issues, and others whose primary focus is social issues).
If a traditional Republican such as Romney wins the nomination, many in the base will clearly not vote, will certainly not contribute or work for his election, and some as noted above will even vote against him. If a libertarian such as Paul gets the nomination, he will lose most traditional Republicans and many social conservatives because of his non-mainstream foreign policy positions. If a tea party favorite such as Palin should get the nomination, all polls convincingly show that her negatives are so high that she would likely pull a Christine O'Donnell performance and lose very, very badly.
Good news for President Obama's reelection chances.
Al Adab| 6.2.11 @ 3:47PM
RCV,
Your analysis here is correct. Romney represents all the past failings of the GOP. Also as you note, the Conservative wing comprises many facets; neo-cons; paleo-cons; social cons; fiscal cons; movement cons; libertarians; and a few others. Each current candidate appeals to a partiicular wing or group of the GOP. It is unlikely that others will coalesce around any of the current field. The only good to come of Al Naqis re-election will be that The Left gets the blame, correctly, for the final collapse of America rather than sharing blame with the GOP.
All that being said, I'm looking forward to the steak.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 4:08PM
The left attacks Palin because they know she could beat the Bamster.
simon templar| 6.2.11 @ 6:21PM
The centrist democrats, the Truman Kennedy democrats, the green movement, the socialist democrats, the socialist, the communist, the feminists, the PETA acitivist, the labor union movement, the anti-war movement, the black power movement, the anarchists, the sixties leftovers, the liberal theology movement, the vegetarians, the earth worshippers, the marxist academics, the new age movement..shall I keep going or do you get the point by now?
The fact: the majority of conservative Americans are social fiscal conservatives that share many specific common goals and principles with other conservatives of various emphasis and persuasion. The Tea Party is a manifestation of that common ground and shared values.
Al Adab| 6.2.11 @ 7:24PM
Ahh, but those you list on The Left have a commonality in their statist agenda and lust for central control and power. Conversly the various facets of Conservatism stand in opposition to one another.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 1:20AM
Yeah, the left has a great deal in common, they like to kill each other for that central control. What the hell do you think was going on for most of the 2oth century regarding the left both here and in the rest of the world? What do you think was happening during World War II? The Left is united around a myth and a lie. Conservativism is united around the basic principle set for by our founding fathers. They are reflected in the Tea Party. Do I have to spell them out for you? You have a TV? The various facets of conservativism do not stand in complete opposition but rather share more in common than their differences. If this were the case there would have been no Reagan presidency. Once again, The fact: the majority of conservative Americans are social fiscal conservatives that share many specific common goals and principles with other conservatives of various emphasis and persuasion. The Tea Party is a manifestation of that common ground and shared values. If you really believe this then why the hell do you post here..why are you a conservative..why don't you just request that the troll RCV get a column here at TAS..You are more willing to take the opinion of a frigin troll that wants to fundamentally transform your country. Then you deserve to get what is coming....perhaps you are stupid...and I have been wasting my time.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 1:33AM
I will let you in on a fact about the Left. All the years in the past when I was a radical useful idiot, all I ever heard was disgruntled hostile disagreement within what was called, The Movement. Meetings were nothing but chaos and fights over who was more revolutionary and pure. Each protest was a parade of freaks that stayed together under their seperate banners and causes and could care less what the others were doing. They could not agree on a common agenda and strategy if their lives depended on it. They even bitched about the disunity and would rant about how the conservatives were all of one mind, one giant evil conglomerate. You know nothing of what you are talking about on this subject. You bought their bullshit. Hey, what the fuc5k do I know. See ya, losers. What a waste of time. You really ought to reconsider being a liberal.
Occam's Tool| 6.3.11 @ 12:52AM
Indeed, Al Adab. Indeed.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 1:48AM
You agree with this guy?
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 1:53AM
Well, I hope that idea of the blame being in the right place keeps you warm at night while you sleep in squalor after the final collaspe of America. Just who the fuc will care at this point? My god, you are immature.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.2.11 @ 5:31PM
Hey, RCV.
Have you read my consolidated book yet?
Check it out at www.txbooks.blogspot.com
You know, RCV I have squinted my eyes and twisted my neck to try to see what tortured perspective you view the world from, sir.
I can only ask myself "in what secret fashion have you hooked up with the communist liar's gravy-train?"
I was a pretty staunch Dubyah supporter, but I also raised hell when I thought he screwed up. You just eat the excrement sandwiches served up by Obama day after day...and ask for seconds.
Must be nice being part of the nomenklatura.
RCV| 6.2.11 @ 7:33PM
Ken: I'm afraid I'm on no one's "gravy-train". Just worked hard all my life. I also try to look at things from the perspective of what I think is best for my country and the human beings who live in it. One of the many great things about our country is that you and I both can look at events, have different opinions about them, and express those opinions and work to elect people who share our views. The perspective I happen to share is shared by a lot of other people as well -- the 53% who elected Barack Obama as president, and who I think will re-elect him in 2012.
Peopel who shared your perspective -- the "staunch Dubya supporters" -- had your way for eight years. I wasn't a happy guy then, but I'd lived long enough to realize that in our country, the pendulum swings a bit to the right some times and a bit to the left on others. That's how things work in a self-governing Republic like ours, Ken.
I genuinely wish you well, Ken, and enjoy reading your stuff even when I don't agree with it. Take care.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 8:04PM
Not this time RCV.
Obama's got a track record now and it's a disastrous track record. Our economy is on the verge of collapse because of Obama.
There's blood in the political waters around Obama now and the Conservative sharks are circling. Obama is definitely beatable.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 1:45AM
You know I really have to congratulate you. That was the biggest pile of shit I have ever read. You wish him well? Self governing republic like ours? Did you pick up that term from trolling out here. Cute. Yeah, you are just a good old chip off the block. Fuc you. I know who you are and I will fight you to my last days. Gee, I just feel all warm and fuzzy and look foward to living under your totalitarian utopia. You can go to hell.
RCV| 6.3.11 @ 12:34PM
My, you're a swell guy, Simon.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:26PM
The sharks are circling, RCV.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.3.11 @ 3:51PM
I don't bother with silly lack of republican cohesiveness being the reason the dithering idiot liar in chief will be reelected when the cohesiveness of the tea party I abhor for wholly lacking in intelligence and for wholly lacking a shred of real Christian love and for wholly lacking a shred of compassion and for espousing wholly dangerous and damaging and detrimental policies of know-nothingism will be the reason the dithering idiot liar in chief is routed in Carterlike reelection fashion on just one more of the constant stream of posts showing how pathetic and despicable and unintelligent and dishonest I am and other cohesive reasons I am such a douchebag and such an asswipe of monumentally epic proportion matters.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 4:33PM
I do not live to be a swell guy....especially a swell guy to you. You know, if you think everything is just great and your messiah is going to fix everything and your Progressive Liberalism is a gift from God, oh sorry..you don't believe in one... ok a gift from Karl Marx..then why do you not come out here and explain and educate us to its merits, its successes, its history, its wonderful and efficient programs, its consequences, its benevolent achievements. We are waiting to hear and listening attentively.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:31PM
For your snide, disagreeable little information, Simon, I'm a devout church-going Christian, who despises Marxism and is smart enough to know what it is, unlike you. I'm not surprised that you claim to be a 60s radical. You have all the same earmarks of a radical ideologue, and the same sparkling personality of all the fervant ideologues I've known over the years, left and right. You're all cut from the same cloth.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.4.11 @ 4:24PM
I don't bother with silly posts by me on AmSpec stating at least I belong to the party that cares about human beings AFTER they're born and stating I abhor sanctimonious tea partiers wholly lacking in intelligence and without a shred of real Christian love and compassion on a post stating I'm a devout church-going Christian and other comments about what is snide matters.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 4:28PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 1:14AM
You're the one defending the Marxist disaster in the White House, moron. You're an idiot if you don't see your hypocrisy.
simon templar| 6.2.11 @ 6:05PM
Your either a very clever liar, RCV, or just another ignorant left wing sycophant under the age of 30 that repeats the lies. The republican party has always consisted of a wide range of political flavors whether it was the western libertarians like Barry Goldwater, the eastern William Buckleys, the log cabin Republicans, the Reaganites, the Nixonians and on and on. This is nothing new. You know crap about nothing. Shame on the rest of you for even giving this fool the time of day let alone replying or agreeing with anything he has said. Its really laughable. You need to figure out how your boy in the WH is going to resell that piece of crap again that he sold everyone the last time around. His reelection stats hit the WH the other day and there were reports that a large amount of staff peed and shit their pants. Its your ilk that traditionally could not agree on anything and has fought among yourselves throughout the 20th century trying to prove who was the true revolutionary and vanguard of the people. We have more in common than we have in differences and we will beat his ass.
RCV| 6.3.11 @ 11:02AM
Simon: I've got more than three decades over 30, and have been closely involved in political campaigns for more than a half-century. I'm well aware that the GOP, like the Democratic Party, is a coalition of different interest and ideological groups -- it's what has given our nation political stability over the years. Electoral success on the national level, however, depends much on how those coalition members see and respect each other at the end of the day.
In 1964, when the libertarians in the GOP wrested the nomination for Goldwater after a bitter fight with the establishment Rockefeller wing, the enmities led to a crushing defeat. In 1968, the McCarthy/Robert Kennedy antiwar wing of the Democratic Party came to see Humphrey establishment Democrats as little different than the GOP, giving Nixon a victory.
Read the posts above and you will see what's happened to the GOP. Many conservatives have come to see their own party members as "RINOS", little different than Democrats. It's a perfect recipe for electoral disaster. It also explains why EVERY poll -- at this admittedly early date -- shows Obama ahead of EVERY GOP contender by a wide margin, in many cases not just in double digits, but more than 20% ahead.
In contrast, I can say that in 50 years of being involved in Democratic politics, I have never seen the party more united than they are going into this election. There will be no serious Democratic opposition to Obama's renomination. Moreover, the President's superb political organization from 2008 is intact and already up and organizing at the precinct level in every state. Republican moves in Wisconsin and elsewhere, and reaction to the Ryan Medicare proposals have insured that the Democratic base will be energized and organized for the campaign.
Those are the facts, Simon.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:35PM
What do you think about the grim facts --9.1% and rising unemployment, $4-$5 a gal gas, a double dip recession and an economy on the brink of collapse, RCV? You are in deep denial about Obama's re-election chances.
There's no HOPE for his re-election and the only CHANGE that's going to happen is Obama's ouster. He's been a disaster for our country.
ACORN can only steal so many votes. We're going to swarm the polls November 8, 2012--just watch.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:37PM
Obama won't get the Independents again--and you can't win without the Independents.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 3:56PM
Really, where were you in 1968. Chicago ring a bell. Your so-called party was taken over by the radicals and left wing nut jobs of the 1960's. It has fractured several times since then and was blown off it's rails a few times as well in the last 40 years. You won the last election because you had a sycophant media that did everything it could to deceive the public. You garnished the youth vote..your losing it rapidly. Polls indicate this. Traditional democrats are joining the Tea Party in droves. Unemployment is reaching a record high. He is at a 47 percent approval rating and dropping. Standing presidents, jerk wad, usually do not have same party opposition. So what? His party is not united. In fact, many of them are stepping away from him and his rhetoric and policies. The last election was proof of that whereby many dems tried to sound like fiscal conservatives. He is worried all right, that's why he is trying to raise one billion. As usual you can not think out of the box. The politics and the paradigm of the last 40 years are fading away fast. The basic class warfare and the 'government can help you myth' is dying rapidly...the basis of your ideology, I know so well. For every poll you throw a counter one has been taken and shows otherwise. The GOP will come forward with candidates that represent both the Tea Party and an acceptable GOP pick as well. If you think that this thread or this web site is a statistical representation of the whole conservative movement, you really are a silly fool.
James| 6.3.11 @ 4:06PM
They're aren't enough Democrats to re-elect Obama. He needs the Independents and they've fled in droves. All we have to do is nominate someone who is fearless, who will take the fight to Obama.
Obama won't be re-elected.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 4:35PM
James, Thanks for your support in this thread.
James| 6.3.11 @ 4:50PM
No prob, Simon; you're a good egg. You're right, too.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 4:03PM
I stand corrected. You are just a very clever liar.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.3.11 @ 4:08PM
I don't bother with silly facts like using my 64 years of reason and experience to conclude republican uncohesiveness and democrat unity will result in the dithering idiot liar in chief being reelected when I concluded over 6 months ago when I only had 63 years of reason and experience that
"I abhor the sanctimonious conservatism of the tea party brand, an ideology wholly lacking in intelligence without a shred of real Christian love and compassion. Every policy it espouses is dangerous, damaging, and detrimental to our country and it's future. It will have a lifespan much like its intellectual forebearer, Know-Nothingism." ( RCV | 10.23.10 @ 9:30PM )
on not having become a shred less pathetic and not having become a shred less despicable and not having become a shred more intelligent and not having become a shred more honest in over the last 6 months of being ridiculed by the unity of the cohesive readers at AmSpec matters.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 4:21PM
RCV, an alter ego? Is this the liberal Mr. Hyde side?
November 4, 2010. Remember it. Stick that up you nose and sniff it, RCV. Yeah, you are not stupid, you are evil.
James| 6.3.11 @ 4:49PM
RCV's posted here for a long time. I used to think he/she was "Liberal Reader." Both are blasts from the past trolls.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.3.11 @ 4:50PM
I don't bother with silly labels of being evil when I belong at least to the party that cares about human beings AFTER they're partially born and other quotations of my own words mocked in my face on not being intelligent enough and not being honest enough to accept when simon says I am pathetic and despicable and unintelligent and dishonest I must REALLY be pathetic and despicable and unintelligent and dishonest and maybe that is what being evil REALLY is matters.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:34PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.4.11 @ 4:19PM
I don't bother with silly whether my pathetic despicable unintelligent dishonest opinions are genuine or the product of trolling matters not a whit on coming across as a pathetic despicable unintelligent dishonest asswipe matters.
Nick| 6.2.11 @ 11:40PM
RCV,
I thought you were smarter than this: "If a libertarian such as Paul gets the nomination [...]."
Ron Paul?
Are you serious?
Go back and see how many delegates Paul won in '08. Paul is the Dennis Kucinich of the GOP. If I treated Kucinich as a serious candidate, what would you say?
Also, elections aren't based on where someone's negative poll numbers are at EIGHT MONTHS before the first primary. If they were, O'Bama wouldn't have a chance, now would he?
RCV| 6.3.11 @ 10:48AM
Of course, Paul isn't going to get the nomination, and yes he is the Dennis Kucinich of the GOP. Only a handful of TAS readers, like lunatic Clint, treat him seriously as a candidate.
Palin's negative numbers only get higher as the public gets to know her.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:41PM
You're wrong about Palin. Not only will she be nominated, she's going to beat Obama like a rented mule in 2012. She's not afraid to attack him like the others. She's smart as hell and she's got nothing to lose. In short, Sarah's dangerous.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:51PM
Paqlin yesterday on Paul Revere: "He who warned, uh, the ... the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringin' those bells and, um, by makin' sure that as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warnin' shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free ... and we were gonna be armed."
God, you gotta love her. Please, bring her on. The woman will say anything as long as a camera is pointed at her.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:52PM
Drop that q!
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.4.11 @ 4:01PM
I don't bother with silly relative intelligence of Palin compared to the dithering idiot liar in chief when no one has ever come even remotely close to as unintelligent as the lying idiot ditherer in American political history on not being intelligent enough to even remotely discern this fact in spite of 64 years of which over 50 have been actively involved politically matters.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 4:29PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.6.11 @ 12:33AM
I don't bother with silly irony of sanctimoniously posting my devout Christianity while my posts sanctimoniously reveal my support of fifty three million abortions and my posts sanctimoniously claim tea partiers do not have a shred of real Christian love and compassion on continuous posts revealing how pathetic and despicable not to mention unintelligent and dishonest I am and the best I can do is post a bunch of Zs indicating how bored I am that every reader knows it matters.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 1:17AM
I hope you watched Sarah Palin's "boffo performance" when she was interviewed by Chris Wallace today. CW was blown away and says Sarah is a serious contender for the presidency.
You'll eat your garbage words when you watch Palin's Inauguration in 2013, dirtball.
RCV| 6.6.11 @ 6:58PM
"Bozo" is the more appropriate adjective.
NoLib| 6.7.11 @ 12:41AM
You liberals are a joke. You've destroyed the economy and you worship before A. Weiner.
What a strange collection of freaks, perverts and losers you are. We know who the real circus sideshows are.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.7.11 @ 9:00PM
I don't bother with silly endorsement of the dithering idiot liar in chief who repeatedly over and over and over said something like 'Bush who drove, uh, the...the republicans that they were gonna be takin' away our economy, uh, by sipping those slurpees and, um, by makin' sure that as Bush is drivin' the economy in the ditch to send those jobs and sippin' straws that, uh, they were gonna ride in the back and we're gonna push the accelerator on stimulus ... and we're gonna take the keys' on the dithering idiot liar in chief actually being much much much more inarticulate and unintelligent and dishonest while reading a prepared statement on a teleprompter than the woman I pathetically and despicably and unintelligently and dishonestly opine on matters.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.3.11 @ 4:31PM
I don't bother with silly cohesive issues of unity when the actual democrat national convention occurs in the summer of 2012 and the dithering idiot liar in chief is trailing by an average of 13 points and falling in the polls when considering the effects this will have during this convention consisting exclusively of pathetic despicable stupid liars such as myself on exhibiting yet again I wholly lack any intelligence and I wholly lack any honesty but I am pathetic and I am despicable matters.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:35PM
Zzzz.....zzzzz...
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.4.11 @ 4:07PM
I don't bother with silly facts no incumbent has been reelected since socialist FDR when the economy is as stagnant as it is now on main stream media predictions this past week indicating economic improvement when actual results certainly showed the main stream media is vying with RCV on pathetic despicable unintelligent and dishonest douchebaggery matters.
Occam's Tool| 6.3.11 @ 12:57AM
Except, RCV, except--- (and you are NOT stupid)---gas will be $5.00/gallon in 2012, and unemployment will be over 9% (much more if you adopt a true perspective, as people who give up hope aren't counted).
In short, as the most adept Democratic politician since FDR put it, "It's the economy, stupid."
After the election, contact Ken and we will arrange for exchange of data to fulfill the bet ($50.00 Ruth's Chris certificate---a glass of wine and a ribeye.). G-d Bless. It's fun arguing with 'ya.
RCV| 6.3.11 @ 10:46AM
Unemployment's over 9% now, Gas is $4.50 where I live, and Sarah Palin is still 23% behind in the polls, Occam. Go to realpolitics.com and read the facts. You're not stupid, either. As frustrated as people are with the slow recovery, they don't have amnesia about who led is into this mess. More importantly, when they look at who the GOP is offering up, they choose to stick with the President by an ever-widening margin.
I'll order mine rare.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:44PM
Sarah hasn't announced yet. As I recall, at this time in the 2008 election cycle, Obama was trailing Clinton badly. Anything can happen---even the election of a very longshot candidate like Obama. 17 months is an eternity in an election cycle.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:37PM
Obama was an unknown at this time in 2008 election cycle. Palin is not only known, she's already oversaturated. And the reality is, the more the public has gotten to know her, the higher her negatives go. If you can't see that, you're just willfully ignorant. There could be no greater gift to the Democratic party than a Palin nomination, but unfortunately most thinking Republicans know that.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.4.11 @ 4:10PM
I don't bother with silly obvious self-evident unalienable continuous proof of my pathetic and despicable unintelligence and dishonesty on oblivious continual pathetic and despicable posts of unintelligence and dishonesty matters.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 1:18AM
We'll see who the idiot is when Palin's inaugurated in 2013!
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:49PM
"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"
Those damning words will sink Obama's chances when they're hurled at him.
Sorry, try as you might to blame it on the evil GEORGE BOOOOSH, Obama owns this disgusting economy and the trillions more in debt he's treasonously forced onto the backs of our children.
It's the economy stupid!
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 4:13PM
they don't have amnesia about who led is into this mess...
You mean brainwashing. The public is learning every day just how your party has sold them a cart of bullshit, corruption, big government, and theft for almost a century. There running away in the millions from your lying brainwashing media outlets whether they are newspapers or televison networks. Some of them are on the verge of bankruptsy. They are waking up to the fact that you and your progressive totalitarian utopians have got us into this mess. They are rejecting your fundamental transformation agenda that they never bought into.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.3.11 @ 4:17PM
I don't bother with silly where I live being California where even the huge republican election landslide of November 2010 failed to affect how unintelligent and dishonest we are about liberalism when failing to realize November 2010 was just the tip of the iceberg that is November 2012 on being clueless of how pathetic and despicable and unintelligent and dishonest I appear with each and every comment I post matters.
RCV| 6.4.11 @ 1:38PM
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Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.4.11 @ 4:15PM
I don't bother with silly reality the least pathetic and the least despicable lacking the least unintelligence and lacking the least dishonesty of any of my posts is a post of one single solitary character on that one single solitary character being the last letter of the alphabet ironically representing my place of last in line when God handed out brains matters.
John H| 6.2.11 @ 3:47PM
Cute wife. Wouldn't vote for him unless he was the only other choice besides the Kenyan Kommie. He still thinks that socialized medicine as adopted in Massachusetts is a good idea and he's totally wrong. To be a Republican and be elected in a state in the northeast tells me all I really need to know about him, since Massachusetts turned out Kennedys, Frank, Studds, and our brilliant Republican Senator Scott Brown who isn't a conservative in the least bit. Sorry Mitt, but we need a conservative.
martin j smith| 6.2.11 @ 4:47PM
As of today, I think Obama will defeat himself.
As for Romney--let the games begin and let the six or eight or whatever possibilities debate without killing each other on two major issues:
Why they should be President at this time ?( Given the Obama background ) and two: what they plan to do to win and to deal with the economy and national security.
Andrew Price | 6.2.11 @ 5:18PM
For many evangelicals the thought of a man ie (Mitt Romney) who believes he is a god in embryo and who believes that Jesus is the Devil's brother occupying the White House is so shocking that they would rather abstain or vote for a third party .
simon templar| 6.2.11 @ 6:59PM
Not gonna happen! Would'nt be prudent.
Jerry Carroll| 6.2.11 @ 5:57PM
It's was Bob Dole's turn and John McCain's turn and now it's Mitt's turn.
simon templar| 6.2.11 @ 6:23PM
No, now its our turn. TEA PARTY TIME!
somnolence| 6.2.11 @ 7:02PM
Palin/Bachmann will be historical and electrifying. Their campaign will be relentless, and Obama will be unable to hide. The news media will have to take great pains to refrain from appearing sexist with Palin/Bachmann. The ONLY viable candidates for me are: (1)Palin (2) Bachmann (3) Cain (4) Santorum.
James| 6.2.11 @ 7:08PM
I like Palin/West even better!
Les Coomer| 6.2.11 @ 7:18PM
Romney will say whatever it takes to get elected. Without the right to life for the unborn, euthanasia is coming for you via Obama/Romney, because the system is economically impossible without it. Without stable 2 parent families poverty will increase. Social conservatism IS the backbone of economic conservatism. No Romney, Paul, or western governors.
Nick K.| 6.2.11 @ 7:45PM
Reading these comments, you would think Romney was some kind of Frankenstein monster. I'll take him over President B.O. any day. Sarah Palin is a sure loser, sorry.
NoLib| 6.2.11 @ 8:00PM
RINO Romney is the sure loser in 2012, just like RINO McCain was the sure loser in 2008.
prestonsbrooks| 6.2.11 @ 8:44PM
So, the MSM and the Left have annointed the next "republican" candidate, eh? Dream on.
Dave Trap| 6.2.11 @ 8:51PM
Go away Mitt.
Jersey Jim| 6.2.11 @ 10:30PM
I will vote for a conservative in the primary. Right now I like Rick Santorum. If Romney wins the nomination I will vote for him even though he is a Rhino. We have to stop Obama and the destruction, pain and suffering he has caused.
Nightwing| 6.3.11 @ 4:10AM
Santorum? The guy who wants to ban the sale of condoms and proposes criminal prosecution and jail terms for women who seek abortions?
Using the Power of Government for a Catholic Inquisition hardly promotes a FREEDOM agenda for America.
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:50PM
Link please, troll.
dee see| 6.2.11 @ 10:55PM
Obama's re-election engineered to become
reality. But those Obama matching mugs now!
But, no worry. The 'continuity of agenda' will
remain ABSOLUTELY undisturbed.
WHAT CAN WE DO?
CALL FOR
RETRO-active IMPEACHMENT of our last
4 set up administrations.
INSTANT nulification of ALLLL their illegal,
deeply seditious 'treaties', agreements and
'understandings'.
IMMEDIATE defunding and withdrawal
from the Bankster/Globalist/EUGENICS
front UN. Immediate expulsion of that
phoney 'public' institution from ALLL
American soil.
ASAP revocation of ALLLL TAX FREE
status subsidization of the ultra-rich, culturally,
morally and politically subversive NGOs.
Swiftly following inquest and prosecution,
dismantling.
IMMEDIATE write off of the 1.4 quadrillion
in FAKE derivatives, and the preposterous
billions of debt to our US taxpayer created
RED Chinese 'miracle'.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012
Albert W. L. Moore, Jr.| 6.3.11 @ 1:00AM
If Obama is not exposed for what he is by exhaustive official investigations, he will build such a machine of concealment, deception, psy-ops, fraud, corruption and treason, including physical intimidation at the polls, that nobody will be able to beat him.
JimBob| 6.3.11 @ 1:13AM
Romney is a world class RINO and his RomneyCare fiasco weighs him down like an aircraft carrier chained to his neck. He's toast before he ever spends a penny and will never get my vote. Kinda wish he wouldn't waste everyone's time and money to end up even more of a loser than he already is.
ERS| 6.3.11 @ 1:16AM
Yeah, Ron Paul's the crazy one. There's an interview that he did with Bill Buckley back in 1988 (it's on YouTube if you search for it - it's a little over 11 minutes into Part 2) where they were discussing the deficit. Ron Paul told Buckley that eventually government spending would grow even beyond what they could borrow, and at that point the Fed would simply start monetizing the debt ("printing" money to buy treasuries with). Buckley laughed him off and said "Right, if they ever do that you can run for President and win."
I don't know about the rest of you, but we could use somebody who's that crazy right about things in the White House.
simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 1:36AM
Now I know why GMZ does not post here anymore.
BackToBasics| 6.3.11 @ 2:29AM
Bottom line for me is that Romney does not have the stomach for a fight. Most of the Republicans don't have this. Palin might be a scrapper but I sure wish she could speak off-the-cuff better than she does. After seeing how this weakness was such a detriment to GW Bush for 8 years, I'd rather see someone who was articulate and tough.
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simon templar| 6.3.11 @ 2:40AM
Lets recap the lessons and prevailing notions of the week here at the TAS:
1. the conservatives have nothing in common
2. It is impossible for them to unify
3. They should not confront the left opposition, people do not like confrontation.
4. we can be happy with the blame being in the right place after the nation collaspes even if no one gives a rats ass by then
5. if my guy does not get nominated, I will stay home and not vote
6. Palin is unelectable and I will continue to beat this into the ground 100 years from now even after she is dead and has stated one hundred times she is not going to run and
the one we love the most....
7. a true conservative is not electable, we will have to settle for another beltway pick
Yeah, and you wonder why they call conservatives stupid. Why not just roll over and just have the liberal trolls, the progressive movement, and the fundamental tansformers pick your candidate, define your platform, and tell you what you stand for and be done with it?
Paul_FL| 6.3.11 @ 3:47AM
Why the Republican Party wants this guy to be reelected? Unfortunately he will be. After all, you have to have a black reelected, it's a first, right? History can't miss that chance. Are you racists? So, let's recap, the Republicans are losers and this country is still damn racist, i.e. people judge others on the basis of race not on character or accomplishment. Sleep well America, you're flushing yourself in history's toilet!
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roadmaster| 6.3.11 @ 7:55AM
His weaselly defense of RomneyCare did it for me. Had he disowned it, admitted it was a mistake and costs too much, he might have had a chance, but as far as I see, he's just adopting McCain's kiss up strategy towards "moderates." Moderates stuck us with our last loser candidate - we better go with a Cain or Bachmann this time or we'll be screwed.
somnolence| 6.3.11 @ 8:34AM
Quit lying about Santorum. He is certainly pro-life and anti-Planned Parenthood, justifiably so. Most people I know and grew up with over 45 years ago as a teenager knew already about condoms, etc. without ever consulting Planned Parenthood. They've been sold in pharmacies for hundreds of years. If you're against Santorum, come up with something better than him being a divide between Torquemada and Queen Victoria, please. You sound hysterical.
That Guy| 6.3.11 @ 12:03PM
Romeny is a farce and a joke. He is the Republican equivalent of Obama. Romeny is not a businessman. He inherited a business, let other people run it, and took credit. Romneycare is something that dooms a Romney candidacy. Romney was born to be president, just like Al Gore and many others. Why should we follow some guy who has never thought for himself his entire life. Think about it. We have to demand better than an empty suit like Obama or Romney.
spoofproof| 6.3.11 @ 12:14PM
Whoever wins the Republican nomination ought to appoint Ron Paul Secretary of The Treasury so Mr Paul could concentrate on his specialty of reforming the financial structure of the U.S. Government.
Gary J. Mallast| 6.3.11 @ 3:12PM
Mitt Romney saddled Massachusetts with Romneycare. His father George Romney saddled Michigan with a state income tax, wrecked the state's business climate, and actively persecuted Republican conservatives. Do we see a pattern here?
Mitt is not a "moderate" and certainly not any kind of conservative, and definitely no libertarian. He is a flaming hyper-government liberal. An election race between Obama and Romney would be a joke:
"That all this strife should be
Twixt Tweedledum and Tweedledee."
Also, why are flaming liberals and downright soialists, when they are Republicans, called "moderates"?
James| 6.3.11 @ 3:52PM
Exactly. They're big government statists, Progressives in the Republican party. RINOs.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.4.11 @ 12:14AM
Sarah Palin implied the idea of a third party possibly headed by non-conservative Donald Trump is a real possibility a possibility she seems to approve of. She then tries to walk it back, but not quite. Anyone who knows anything about politics or history knows this guarantees Obama wins. We saw this in the Colorado Governor’s race in 2010. Woodrow Wilson would have been a footnote in history if Theodore Roosevelt and the Bull Moose Party hadn’t challenged President Taft.
John II| 6.4.11 @ 11:13PM
Exactly right. Thanks.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 1:24AM
Oh c'mon. Put your big boy pants on and fight like men for gosh sakes!!
Politics ain't beanball and our country is worth our best efforts.
That was Sarah's shot across the bow and the weenie RINOs in the GOP better take notice. We mean business.
Watch Sarah's tour de force interview with Chris Wallace and tell me she isn't presidential material!
She was brilliant. Don't be afraid of a girl, boys, she just might teach you something about courage.
Richard Baker| 6.4.11 @ 3:51PM
The Romneys, Father and son, seem to have a genetic desire to perpetually run for President. Oh, NO!
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 1:25AM
And to NEVER reach their hearts' desire--thank God!
John II| 6.4.11 @ 11:11PM
Is it safe to come out yet? It's been many hours since anyone has said anything.
Anyhow, I wanted to share a comment by Andrew Klavan over at City Journal, in a short piece on Mark Steyn:
"Conservatives, especially, develop an almost doctorly sense of the fragility of the body politic. Systems of liberty never last more than a century or two before succumbing to the infections of power hunger and corruption at the top and dependency, laziness, and envy down below. We must rush to the scene and keep the patient breathing as long as possible. It’s all very important indeed."
I think he meant "conservatives" generally. Which, relative to the Obamanation, would have to include Romney, as suspicious as I am of the obviously calculating dude.
He's NOT Obama, okay? If he or Mickey Mouse or Goofy are finally nominated by the Republican Party, we vote for Romney or Mickey Mouse or Goofy. Period. End of argument.
And now back to "The Best Years of Our Lives" (1946), in which the great William Wyler, perhaps inadvertently, explores the human condition in the light of hope and under the conditions of original sin.
katia swartz| 6.5.11 @ 12:43PM
Something about Romney that needs to be factored in - Do you want a POTUS who actually believes that He will be God of his own planet someday and that the magical mystical set of mormon underwear that he puts on each day protects him - kinda like superman. Does that bring any question of his mental - not to mention his spiritual state ? As POTUS ?? REALLY ? And this would be an improvement over obama ?
John II| 6.5.11 @ 5:59PM
Well--if you get rid of the capitals: "he will be god of his own planet"--you really have little more than a heretical variant on the orthodox Christian belief that we are created in the image of God.
So long as Romney shows no inclination to display his underwear in public in the manners characteristic metaphorically of Professor Obama and, literally, of Assistant Professor Weiner, then yes, Romney would be an incalculable improvement over the certifiable megalomaniac Obama (spelled with a capital).
And now back to "This Island Earth" (1955), a slapdash sci-fi extravaganza filled with cheap scientistic philosophy and ghastly preachy dialog peppered with such expressions as "and yet," "more specifically," and that ridiculous dodge "as you know."
And yet, as we all know, that 1955 flick anticipates the present crisis: more specifically, the Monitor Professor Obama and his administration of expensive mutants.
NoLib| 6.6.11 @ 1:26AM
You still watching those oldies but moldies, John2? Haha
David| 6.6.11 @ 7:52PM
No to Romney, Gingrich, Huckabee, and Trump, and I am sorry to say, but no to Palin, too.
I already THINK Bam Bam will be re-elected no matter who we run against him, but I KNOWwe face certain defeat with any of the above as our candidate.
Remember, 40+% of income earners pay zero income taxes (those are mostly democrats); then add in the 12 - 15% or so of democrats who do pay taxes and are truly liberals; then add in the bleeding hearts who not turn out the first black president after one term; then take the almost unanimous glowing support of the major media while absolutely trashing whoever our candidate is; then consider the ever growing voter fraud committed by democrats; and recall the fact that if he could get away with being a member of Jeremiah Wright's so-called church for almost twenty, he can get away with anything.
I don't see how the jerk loses. The squishy independents have already forgotten all the crap he has done since in office.
And I still think he is going to nominate Hillary as his VP running mate and move Biden to Sec of State.
I just don't see how he can lose.
NoLib| 6.7.11 @ 12:46AM
The Bamster is going to lose because he has a record this time and it.is.a.disaster. No way can he survive 10% unemployment.
Palin is a charismatic leader like the great Ronald Reagan and she's going to ignite the Republican party. We're going to kick your sorry liberal butts in 2012!
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