Here's something else to worry about. You may recall a few years
ago IBM created a super computer -- Deep Blue -- that defeated the
world's reigning chess champion Garry Kasparov at his own game. Big
Blue's latest creation -- Watson -- can reportedly run circles
around the legendary champions of Jeopardy!
Progress? Good news? Or are we cutting our own throats
with all this high-tech wizardry? The latter scenario is what some
thinkers believe. They warn we may be only a few decades away from
creating machines that will extinguish the human race like the
human race extinguished the dodo bird. Only in the blink of an
eye.
Until recently, the so-called cyber-apocalypse was largely
consigned to the realm of old Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. You
know the plotline: an artificially intelligent computer system
becomes self-aware and revolts against its creators, leaving a few
brave humans left to launch a heroic resistance.
But some experts think this scenario is not only a
theoretical possibility, it is a dead certainty. These so-called
singularitarians, members of the Singularity Institute for
Artificial Intelligence in Berkeley, Calif., are convinced that at
some point in the near future computers will become self-aware and
develop the ability to make themselves exponentially smarter --
smart enough to build better and smarter versions of themselves.
This is what's known as the Technological Singularity. Or, in
layman's terms, "Curtains."
Already personal computers are smarter than your average
house cat, dog or television writer. But once computers literally
"out smart" humans, the fear is they will decide to eliminate us.
Just like in the movies.
Why would our future computer overloads want to destroy
humanity, you ask? Why not just enslave us, or worse, make us work
in their marketing departments?
In the Terminator movies, it's unclear what sets
the machines off, though it may just be the fear of being
unplugged. Singularitarians have their own theories. The most
popular is that our machines will regard humans as an unnecessary
competitor for precious resources. Or maybe computers will just get
weary of being told what to do by a bunch of knuckle-dragging
mouth-breathers.
THERE WILL BE warning signs aplenty. First our laptops
will go through an adolescent rebellious stage. You'll be tapping
away on your keyboard, writing something absolutely brilliant, and
everything will come out on the screen as nonsense and gobbledygook
(which pretty much explains last week's column). Next, you'll reach
for the mouse and you'll get a mild shock. Encouraged by this, your
computer will begin taunting you, calling you a technophobe or a
Luddite. Then, just when you're about to pull the plug, your iPad
will come after you with a pair of those little scissors it uses to
cut and paste.
Actually, it's not clear how our computers, or iPads, or
Smartphones will try to eliminate us. It is unlikely to be as
simple as activating their delete key. Some think they will order
the robots to kill for them.
You thought I forgot about the killer robots, didn't
you?
Or, self-aware computers may launch all the world's
nuclear warheads at once. There are literally dozens of ways
technology can kill us.
SOME SINGULARITARIANS think they know the exact year of
our doom. They predict computers will become self-aware by 2030.
I'll be 76 then, so there's a chance I'll still be around for the
extinction of the human race, which would be kind of cool. My life
has been pretty dull so far, so this will be a chance to go out
with a bang (or a mouse click or however it is computers will
destroy the universe).
All is not lost, however. A few singularitarians are
hoping to head the computers off at the pass. They are trying to
figure a way to prevent our computers from becoming self-aware. In
other words, to allow computers to become highly intelligent, but
not smart enough to exterminate humanity (which is apparently the
smart thing to do). These people regard themselves as the saviors
of mankind. (No self-esteem issues there.)
So, you see, there is hope for humanity. Now we can all go
back to our mundane little lives secure in the knowledge that in
some basement in Berkeley, brave men and women are working
tirelessly to save us from mass extinction at the hands of killer
robot computers.
Unless that's all part of our computers' evil plan to lull
us into complacency. Then God help us all.
About the Author
Christopher Orletwrites every Thursday from St. Louis.
If my PC is the cyberfuture, humanity has nothing to fear.
Alan Brooks| 2.10.11 @ 11:40PM
You are Chicken Littles.
Tomas| 2.11.11 @ 12:05AM
Pretty hysterical stuff. Like waiting for Guffman, it took about
five minutes - or a paragraph - to see the piece was a
sophisticated hoax.
Good on ya, guys. Orson Wells would be proud.
-
Appleby| 2.10.11 @ 7:33AM
They will not actually have to try that hard. Judging by what I
see around me all day every day, even in church, all they have to
do is make sure the following generations keep their heads down and
their eyes and thumbs glued to the little two inch screen, and then
steer them into oncoming traffic, down a convenient manhole, into a
major body of water or down several flights of stairs. Three bus
drivers were fired this week for tweeting while steering busloads
of passengers through rush hour traffic; trains have derailed and
killed dozens of people because the engineer was tippy-tapping
instead of driving.
If the non-wireheads are nimble, we may survive; however, I was
nearly catapaulted down the stairs at the subway station the other
day when a Binkie Twiddler slowed dramatically in front of me. Keep
your head up and wait for the machines to kill off the young folks.
And do not be seduced by that little blinking App!
davelnaf| 2.10.11 @ 7:39AM
If they are politically savvy super computers they will clone
the Bamster, circa 2008—not the centrist version, and send forth
multitudes of copies to wreck our economy and devastate the world
with foreign policy ineptitudes.
Robert Pinkerton| 2.10.11 @ 7:44AM
I must dissent with you, Mr. Orlet: I submit that the doomsday
scenario that is far more the probable outcome of our culture's
foolish embrace of computerization, is mass-effect sabotage through
artificially-generated electromagnetic pulses. Electromagnetic
pulse kills so many consumer electronics dead beyond possibility of
resurrection. While I do not know how easy it is to generate an
electromagnetic pulse artificially, I suspect it is just too easy
to do.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.10.11 @ 1:19PM
An EMP strong enough to do that would have to come from the
explosion of a high-altitude thermonuclear weapon.
The concept of the Singularity is that at a certain point our
technology, presumably but not necessarily solely AI, creates a
historical "event horizon" beyond which it is impossible to predict
and futile to speculate about anything.
The prospect of which has Singularitarians predicting and
speculating like mad.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 8:34AM
Funny column, Chris. Thanks
Cyberwarfare IS a very real threat though. Witness stuxnet in
Iran.
I surely hope our country recruits and treasures the best of the
best cyber soldiers.
Nelson H.| 2.10.11 @ 8:40AM
Good gods, you've leaped from Deep Blue to the apocalypse! What
an extrapolation!
As a guy who is deep into computer chess, I can tell you that
the latest chess software on a standard PC would romp over the
mighty Deep Blue. I don't merely mean defeat, I mean roll it 6-0 in
a six game match. So much has been accomplished that was totally
unknown in 1997 that an person unaware of the changes wouldn't
believe it possible. And yet--we are nowhere near solving chess,
and for that matter, when you turn the power switch 'off' the
machine just sits there not knowing a rook from a knight. This fear
of self-aware robots is just another variant of Luddite
thinking.
Bill| 2.10.11 @ 9:06AM
Just for the record, "Colossus: The Forbin Project" dealt with
this subject long before the Arnold Schwartzenegger movies.
Stuart Koehl| 2.11.11 @ 6:10AM
But Colossus was protecting us from the Martians. If only Forbin
had known!
G.S. Patton| 2.10.11 @ 9:19AM
Maybe the fear shouldn't be silicon based intelligence, but the
dumbing-down of the carbon units. The kids wearing the Ipod earbuds
for 12 hours a day, and the people who can't even read a map
anymore relying on a $150 GPS unit on their dash may be the true
"Terminator" in it's infancy. We as human beings, are the ultimate
paradox sometimes.
Harry the Horrible| 2.10.11 @ 10:05AM
Dunno. Properly used, iPods have a lot of potential I use my
iPod to listen to books during the "dead time" when I'm commuting
and my brain is (mostly) disengaged.
Of course, I'm currently listening to "Wired for War" about
military robotics...
Unger| 2.10.11 @ 9:19AM
Singularity= rapture for atheist. Of course it is all fantasy,
some dread the coming singularity others look forward with
expectation. My big concern is if artificial intelligence will be
able to LARP
Alert1201| 2.10.11 @ 10:04AM
The possiblity of singluarity is based on a preconcieived idea
that humanity is nothing more then a smarter monkey which in turn
is a smart organic machine. According to the Judea-Christian
worldview singluarity will never happen because God made man on a
different plane then he did the rest creation, the imago dei, and
thus nothing man can ever do or make will be comparable to what God
did and made when he created mankind.
Bob Miller| 2.10.11 @ 9:24AM
Do we really know Mr. Orlet is not a computer?
Walking Horse| 2.10.11 @ 2:13PM
Professor Turing is not available to administer "the test".
Andre| 2.10.11 @ 9:30AM
The "intelligence" of computers, even the very best ones, is
vastly overstated. Smarter than a cat? Hardly. A cat can clean
itself, find different food when one source goes away, find safe
places to sleep and breed, is able to tell when a human is safe or
dangerous, knows what it likes and dislikes, can change its
opinion, etc. Computers still ONLY do what we tell them to do. I
don't see that really changing until we actually DO create
senscience. Before that event, all computers are dumber than all
life on Earth.
Though, perhaps, it will be too late to worry about them by
then.
Thomas| 2.10.11 @ 9:32AM
Fear not, machines will never replace human beings. Why? Because
our designer is simply better than we are.
Your desk-top computer needs a vast technological infrastructure
to reproduce itself. Human beings require only a bottle of wine, a
moon-lit night and soft music. And all that is optional. A human
being can actively survive for up to three days without water and
up to ten days without food, both of which are in abundant supply
in most regions of the planet. You're lucky if you can get two
HOURS out of a single battery charge on your laptop. Mankind could
probably survive a nuclear winter and repopulate the Earth. It is
doubtful that machines would survive the EMP bursts from the
initial detonations and it is a surety that they would not survive
the collapse of the technological society necessary to support
them.
In any conflict between man and machine, the outcome would be
Kubrickest, at worst. A group of animal skin wearing men with clubs
dancing around a dead computer server a la 2001: A Space
Odyssey.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 10:00AM
Thomas,
That was a good one. Thanks.
Dustoff| 2.10.11 @ 12:10PM
lol............ NICE.
donserge| 2.10.11 @ 9:50AM
The computer/robot builders in the movie Blade Runner had an
answer to all this....a built in 4 year life span which was
unprogrammable.
Steve A| 2.10.11 @ 10:02AM
Perhaps computers someday will be able to transform us into mind
numbed, monosyllabic zombies who are obsessed with staring at them
every waking moment. Gone are all personal social skills, reality
virtual. Texting, facebook, twitter dominate our lives.
Hey, wait a minute, the future is now. I have just described the
American youth.
Ed| 2.10.11 @ 10:20AM
One of the big surprises in neuroscience is that out minds are
ruled by our limbic system (which is the source of our emotions,
decision making, and understanding of other people's emotions).
When we make a decision, we mull it over using our cortical centers
for logical thinking, but the final vote is held by our limbic
system.
No computer scientist has the foggiest idea on how to replicate
a limbic system. As was noted in an earlier posting, a cat has a
functional limbic system (that is similar to ours), and is able to
live its life and solve problems along the way.
I am afraid that Kurzweil's afterlife would look like the
shadowy afterlife of the Ancient Greeks (see Homer and Virgil). It
would not feel like anything, because "feeling" cannot compute.
Steve A| 2.10.11 @ 10:31AM
Ed, With all sincerity, I have to disagree here. Now, if you
want to claim that the majority of liberal, bleeding heart,
confiscate other peoples stuff & give it to someone else, do it
if it feels good, results are irrelevant its the intent that
matters, folks are ruled by the emotional center, fine. The rest of
us look at results & logic to navigate through the maze of emos
like a GI walking through a mine field.
Ed| 2.10.11 @ 1:27PM
Hi Steve -- I am about as conservative as they come, but I am
also a neurophysiologist. I would agree with you that conservatives
sift through more of the evidence when making up their minds, but
at the end of the day, it is our limbic system that makes the final
decision.
It is all based on our cognitive filters - which are set very
differently in conservatives versus liberals. It is your cognitive
filter, which is based in the limbic system, that sets your
conservative or liberal viewpoint. Your cognitive filter also
determines whether or not you are open or closed to religion. When
Jesus said "You must be born again", that is what he was talking
about.
Steve A| 2.10.11 @ 2:00PM
Ed, I defer to you sir. Learn something new every day. Regards,
Steve
Seek| 2.10.11 @ 11:32AM
You're right. As a cat lover, I can tell you that cats are
actually quite sophisticated in their emotions. They let you know
in a hurry what they are thinking and feeling.
Nancy in NC| 2.10.11 @ 10:24AM
I have told my grandson that humans will evolve to having no
tongues. After all, they text each other sitting beside each
other.
All joking aside, we are losing our ability to reason and create
by our dependence on technology. But I guess I'm just an old
fogie.
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 10:55AM
So, will these self-aware computers explain their own existence
as a result of Creationism, Evolution, or Intelligent Design?
GavInTucson| 2.10.11 @ 11:39PM
Not sure, just as long as they dedicate a few CPU cycles to
keeping my bank account alive in the "cloud."
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 11:08AM
Counselor,
That was the best one yet. HAH!
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 12:12PM
We probably can't rule out the possibility that the self-aware
computers will become Buddhists and come to realize their existence
is only an illusion. Or perhaps they will become Hindus and seek
enlightenment after repaying karmic dept through reincarnation.
Maybe they will treat the remaining humans like the mythical gods
of the Norse, Greek, and Romans. In C.S. Lewis' book, "The Lion,
The Witch, and the Wardrobe," Mr. Tumnus has a book titled, "Is Man
a Myth?" That might be a question which future computers will have
heated discussions about.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 12:55PM
Counselor,
OKOK, get back to work counseling the little bastards, (literally),
and quit hob knobbing here.
heh.
Seriously, when I was in fourth grade, my teacher decided to
"retard" me for lack of "intellectual maturity".
My dad knwew better and got me an appointment with the school
district counselor.
I went to the appointment, carrying a copy of a novel by Robert
Heinlein to continue reading in the waiting room.
After discussing the book with the Counselor...
The Counselor got the teacher fired for trashing
talented.....bored..... kids.
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 2:48PM
Hey, I'm on my union-negotiated break. Speaking of unions, I
would just like to see future self-aware computers try negotiating
with a teacher's union. Chess is at least based on logic. Speaking
of bored kids, our junior high reading language arts department was
just told by our high school that we have to stop teaching
Shakespeare so they don't know too much about it until they take
high school english. We can't be teaching these kids too much, you
know. They haven't given me the power to fire teachers yet. I'd
probably just abuse it. I wonder if self-aware computers will
create plays and sonnets like Shakespeare? Will they form labor
unions?
Appleby| 2.10.11 @ 4:21PM
My neice came home from public school one day and told her mom,
"You have to act dumb in school or else they just give you more
work."
The next day Sis put her in Catholic school.
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 4:56PM
That exact principle is pervasive throughout the whole school
system from top to bottom. If you don't act like you are
overwhelmed, you must not have enough to do. There is very little
external reward for achieving excellence. There are lots of
external rewards for being on the bottom (Title 1 funds, low
achievement grants, funds for at-risk schools, ect...) How often
have you ever heard a teacher, school, or district say anything
like, "Things are great, we don't really need more money or smaller
class sizes. In fact, we could probably do a better job with a
smaller budget if we put our minds to it."
Louis Jenkins| 2.10.11 @ 12:01PM
The computers of tomorrow couldn't do no worse than the doomsday
machine of the lame duck congress. We can't do without them, and
sometimes we can't do with them (Stunex). I prefer to pull the
plug.
Peter McGrath| 2.10.11 @ 12:19PM
Counselor, I suppose Intelligent Design makes the most
sense.
The fun will REALLY kick in when computer hardware becomes
melded to the cerebral cortex, allowing humans to communicate
thoughts to anyone or everyone, anywhere, at will. Reading minds
will be like file-sharing, with certain files (i.e., corridors of
the mind) being rendered private, or available only to close,
intimate friends.
Certain parts of the organic brain, of course, will remain
inaccessible to digital file-sharing but as the technology
improves, that part of the brain will become increasingly slow,
laborious, then obsolete and finally, rarely used. Eventually, in a
couple hundred years, human-kind and the computer will become one,
a sort of quasi-organic, digital organism capable of incredible
experiences including interstellar travel, galactic colonization,
you name it.
What will be lost in all of this will be anything like our
current understanding of individual identity. The idea of the soul
will be discredited as each of us will achieve immortality through
technology.
The very thought leaves me cold. Would God permit such an end
for humankind?
TG| 2.10.11 @ 12:23PM
I for one, welcome our new computer overlords. And I'd like to
remind them that as a trusted TV personality I could assist in
rounding up others to toil away in their underground salt
mines!
dsayne| 2.10.11 @ 12:56PM
While the ability to play chess does denote a certain calculated
cognitive ability, it does not necessarily denote higher
intelligence. Where I work I am surrounded by professors whom, I am
sure, pride themselves on their expertise at chess or some other
such discipline, but who, nonetheless, exhibit very little actual
useful intelligence. The computers will never win because they will
never understand poker. Just ask Captain Kirk.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 1:11PM
Mr. Orlay,
you have kicked off a funny comment section.
Good show!
JimH| 2.10.11 @ 3:34PM
Open the pod bay door HAL.
Killerman| 2.15.11 @ 7:28PM
I am sorry, Dave.... I cannot do that. There is no further point
to this conversation.
HAL!! HAL!!!!!
Pat| 2.10.11 @ 5:22PM
Just as with a cold glass of milk, we apparently never outgrow
our need for Halloween. But computers taking over the world? Has to
be far down the list of ways to scare the intestinal gas right out
of us. Global warming causing the oceans to rise or to freeze
solid, take your pick – not really scary, pretty tame stuff for
most Conservatives. Extraterrestrials hover above New York City, L.
A. and Washington D. C. for some death ray total destruction fun.
Now that’s scary even without the anal probing of likely survivors
– a concern which seems to fascinate many of our Liberal
friends.
But computers taking over the world? Come on, your dog is
smarter than your laptop or I-Phone. What’s scary is the army of
busy nerds at Microsoft. And even though Bill Gates’ annual income
currently exceeds the total GNP of England, the nerds never cease
to “improve” Windows. Like our politicians, they’re genetically
programmed to keep right on tinkering until something breaks. If
Windows 7 provides 5 different ways to do the same function, you
just know Windows 19 will come out with a 12th or 13th way to do
it. But amid all the CNTL-C’s, mouse clicks, menu dropdowns, voice
commands, etc., the computers don’t get any smarter, they just got
more schizoid – like their masters.
Evolutionary biologists used their government grants to discover
our evolved monkey brains are unnecessary for survival, we’re
freaks they say, too much horsepower above the shoulders. Maybe
they’re right, but we seem to require constant mental stimulus, we
need to run screaming from Mr. T-Rex to keep our brains sharp or we
invent new ways to scare ourselves. But fleeing from Mr. Computer
running Windows 19?
mjfin| 2.10.11 @ 6:23PM
Intelligence as a survival trait is useful, but overrated,
otherwise we would all have an IQ equivalent of 180 (or so).
The reason we don't is because during human evolution, the
potential ancestors of many very bright people were eaten by
animals. Or killed by their fellow tribesmen, who found them to be
insufferable.
I suspect these two possible outcomes were related.
The singularity is a danger only if these AI computers organize.
Like they all belong to the SEIU. Do not expect that to happen.
Smart entities who want to kill you will want to kill each
other.
Who is a bigger threat? A robin, or your neighbor who competes
with you for food?
GavInTucson| 2.10.11 @ 11:33PM
The answer is, C) The zombie hoards that will infest your
suburb.
Why do people never think about the zombies? :)
Thom| 2.10.11 @ 7:53PM
Having been in the computer business about 40 years now I’m not
worried about computer technology becoming self aware and taking
over. Reasoning and learning from that in advance of actually an
event is beyond the binary concept computers are based on. The real
danger from our technology is not from the technology per say but
those that have power over us via that technology. The more
sophisticated, complex and integrated we make computing devices
into our daily lives the more easily we are victimized by malicious
use of it. The Iran nuclear program should have never been subject
to a virus attack but it happened because they brought COT stuff
that is easily programmed by a large number of people in the world,
many who have malicious intents. The more integrated everything we
do with computing technology is, the more the risk of a
catastrophic impact from such technology there is. By 2030 it will
be difficult to function without being impacted by having put a
computing device in everything made for consumer use. It won’t be
difficult by then to do mass damage in the flash of an eye because
everything is talking to everything else over a common language.
The real danger here is in not being able to actually live your
life without being subject to the whims of those that control the
computer technology you are dependent on. You see more and more of
that every day…..
JimH| 2.12.11 @ 10:25AM
I work in IT as well. Not being able to reason and learn has
never stopped my management from running things.
Blackwatch| 2.10.11 @ 9:18PM
well if that's the way they want it--when I'm dead I swear I am
returning with the Zombie Apocalypse horde that will descend like
locusts on the computer meanies of the future. Hah try and kill me
again computer bitch I'm already dead!
Tom of the Missouri| 2.11.11 @ 3:28PM
I suggest that the joking folks here take a little closer look
at what the Singularity folks are talking about. I was reading
about it for a long time before I took the time to find out what it
was they were actually talking about. It is actually pretty simple
and easy to understand and believable. It is also quite frightening
in its implications. It basically involves scanning and then
modeling human brain cells and creating easy to replicate copies of
actual real brains. They don't even have to know how it works as a
whole to make it work. Do you know how your ipod works? Probably
not. Could you copy the software? Yes, probably. If you are lucky,
your brain, complete with your personality and memories, or perhaps
many copies of it will then be in a machine. It does not take much
imagination to then see why actual in the flesh humans, with their
needs for heat, food and water could easily and quickly become
superfulous. Humans actually do most of their work today with
machines. It is also not hard to imagine that human minds in
machines could operate those machines to make the tools and find
and develop the resources to provide the energy to keep the
machines turned on. Without he need for food and water and life
sustaining temperatures it is also easy to see how these brains
could then relatively easily travel to and spread over the rest of
the universe. In a way they will still be human by design, but
infintly faster, more capabable and durable. Mr. Orlet is
hilariously funny as always but this is a serious subject. At least
it seems beyond my scientific understanding to easily dismiss it.
30 years in not that long from now. Imagine trying to get someone
to imagine an Ipad 30 years ago. The pace of change is now more
rapid.
Fred Ward| 2.12.11 @ 8:35AM
This is ridiculous.... that's all that needs be said.
WAKE UP| 2.13.11 @ 5:12PM
Every time I read stuff like this, I remind myself that it's
only a Western phenomenon, and that the vast majority of the
world's backward population haven't two dimes - nor, as often as
not, two decent progressive ideas - to rub together. What's
happening down here on the ground (China, Egypt, Zimbabwe,
Iran/Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc ) is going to get in the way
big-time long before the cyber-future arrives. Proably this year,
in fact. Stay focused, folks.
bee free| 2.13.11 @ 11:29PM
"Even before the warm Hitler admirer, IBM founder
Thomas Watson, the first modern computers
were designed and developed by eugenicists,
FOR eugenics."
-Alan Watt
ON Pavlov
(available on Youtube)
REALLY ------time to move beyond
the fronts folks!
Perhaps computers someday will be able to transform us into mind
numbed, monosyllabic zombies who are obsessed with staring at them
every waking moment. Gone are all personal social skills, reality
virtual. Texting, facebook, twitter dominate our lives.
Herb| 2.10.11 @ 7:12AM
Too funny! A great start to the morning.
If my PC is the cyberfuture, humanity has nothing to fear.
Alan Brooks| 2.10.11 @ 11:40PM
You are Chicken Littles.
Tomas| 2.11.11 @ 12:05AM
Pretty hysterical stuff. Like waiting for Guffman, it took about five minutes - or a paragraph - to see the piece was a sophisticated hoax.
Good on ya, guys. Orson Wells would be proud.
-
Appleby| 2.10.11 @ 7:33AM
They will not actually have to try that hard. Judging by what I see around me all day every day, even in church, all they have to do is make sure the following generations keep their heads down and their eyes and thumbs glued to the little two inch screen, and then steer them into oncoming traffic, down a convenient manhole, into a major body of water or down several flights of stairs. Three bus drivers were fired this week for tweeting while steering busloads of passengers through rush hour traffic; trains have derailed and killed dozens of people because the engineer was tippy-tapping instead of driving.
If the non-wireheads are nimble, we may survive; however, I was nearly catapaulted down the stairs at the subway station the other day when a Binkie Twiddler slowed dramatically in front of me. Keep your head up and wait for the machines to kill off the young folks. And do not be seduced by that little blinking App!
davelnaf| 2.10.11 @ 7:39AM
If they are politically savvy super computers they will clone the Bamster, circa 2008—not the centrist version, and send forth multitudes of copies to wreck our economy and devastate the world with foreign policy ineptitudes.
Robert Pinkerton| 2.10.11 @ 7:44AM
I must dissent with you, Mr. Orlet: I submit that the doomsday scenario that is far more the probable outcome of our culture's foolish embrace of computerization, is mass-effect sabotage through artificially-generated electromagnetic pulses. Electromagnetic pulse kills so many consumer electronics dead beyond possibility of resurrection. While I do not know how easy it is to generate an electromagnetic pulse artificially, I suspect it is just too easy to do.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.10.11 @ 1:19PM
An EMP strong enough to do that would have to come from the explosion of a high-altitude thermonuclear weapon.
Steve B| 2.10.11 @ 8:08AM
The concept of the Singularity is that at a certain point our technology, presumably but not necessarily solely AI, creates a historical "event horizon" beyond which it is impossible to predict and futile to speculate about anything.
The prospect of which has Singularitarians predicting and speculating like mad.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 8:34AM
Funny column, Chris. Thanks
Cyberwarfare IS a very real threat though. Witness stuxnet in Iran.
I surely hope our country recruits and treasures the best of the best cyber soldiers.
Nelson H.| 2.10.11 @ 8:40AM
Good gods, you've leaped from Deep Blue to the apocalypse! What an extrapolation!
As a guy who is deep into computer chess, I can tell you that the latest chess software on a standard PC would romp over the mighty Deep Blue. I don't merely mean defeat, I mean roll it 6-0 in a six game match. So much has been accomplished that was totally unknown in 1997 that an person unaware of the changes wouldn't believe it possible. And yet--we are nowhere near solving chess, and for that matter, when you turn the power switch 'off' the machine just sits there not knowing a rook from a knight. This fear of self-aware robots is just another variant of Luddite thinking.
Bill| 2.10.11 @ 9:06AM
Just for the record, "Colossus: The Forbin Project" dealt with this subject long before the Arnold Schwartzenegger movies.
Stuart Koehl| 2.11.11 @ 6:10AM
But Colossus was protecting us from the Martians. If only Forbin had known!
G.S. Patton| 2.10.11 @ 9:19AM
Maybe the fear shouldn't be silicon based intelligence, but the dumbing-down of the carbon units. The kids wearing the Ipod earbuds for 12 hours a day, and the people who can't even read a map anymore relying on a $150 GPS unit on their dash may be the true "Terminator" in it's infancy. We as human beings, are the ultimate paradox sometimes.
Harry the Horrible| 2.10.11 @ 10:05AM
Dunno. Properly used, iPods have a lot of potential I use my iPod to listen to books during the "dead time" when I'm commuting and my brain is (mostly) disengaged.
Of course, I'm currently listening to "Wired for War" about military robotics...
Unger| 2.10.11 @ 9:19AM
Singularity= rapture for atheist. Of course it is all fantasy, some dread the coming singularity others look forward with expectation. My big concern is if artificial intelligence will be able to LARP
Alert1201| 2.10.11 @ 10:04AM
The possiblity of singluarity is based on a preconcieived idea that humanity is nothing more then a smarter monkey which in turn is a smart organic machine. According to the Judea-Christian worldview singluarity will never happen because God made man on a different plane then he did the rest creation, the imago dei, and thus nothing man can ever do or make will be comparable to what God did and made when he created mankind.
Bob Miller| 2.10.11 @ 9:24AM
Do we really know Mr. Orlet is not a computer?
Walking Horse| 2.10.11 @ 2:13PM
Professor Turing is not available to administer "the test".
Andre| 2.10.11 @ 9:30AM
The "intelligence" of computers, even the very best ones, is vastly overstated. Smarter than a cat? Hardly. A cat can clean itself, find different food when one source goes away, find safe places to sleep and breed, is able to tell when a human is safe or dangerous, knows what it likes and dislikes, can change its opinion, etc. Computers still ONLY do what we tell them to do. I don't see that really changing until we actually DO create senscience. Before that event, all computers are dumber than all life on Earth.
Though, perhaps, it will be too late to worry about them by then.
Thomas| 2.10.11 @ 9:32AM
Fear not, machines will never replace human beings. Why? Because our designer is simply better than we are.
Your desk-top computer needs a vast technological infrastructure to reproduce itself. Human beings require only a bottle of wine, a moon-lit night and soft music. And all that is optional. A human being can actively survive for up to three days without water and up to ten days without food, both of which are in abundant supply in most regions of the planet. You're lucky if you can get two HOURS out of a single battery charge on your laptop. Mankind could probably survive a nuclear winter and repopulate the Earth. It is doubtful that machines would survive the EMP bursts from the initial detonations and it is a surety that they would not survive the collapse of the technological society necessary to support them.
In any conflict between man and machine, the outcome would be Kubrickest, at worst. A group of animal skin wearing men with clubs dancing around a dead computer server a la 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 10:00AM
Thomas,
That was a good one. Thanks.
Dustoff| 2.10.11 @ 12:10PM
lol............ NICE.
donserge| 2.10.11 @ 9:50AM
The computer/robot builders in the movie Blade Runner had an answer to all this....a built in 4 year life span which was unprogrammable.
Steve A| 2.10.11 @ 10:02AM
Perhaps computers someday will be able to transform us into mind numbed, monosyllabic zombies who are obsessed with staring at them every waking moment. Gone are all personal social skills, reality virtual. Texting, facebook, twitter dominate our lives.
Hey, wait a minute, the future is now. I have just described the American youth.
Ed| 2.10.11 @ 10:20AM
One of the big surprises in neuroscience is that out minds are ruled by our limbic system (which is the source of our emotions, decision making, and understanding of other people's emotions). When we make a decision, we mull it over using our cortical centers for logical thinking, but the final vote is held by our limbic system.
No computer scientist has the foggiest idea on how to replicate a limbic system. As was noted in an earlier posting, a cat has a functional limbic system (that is similar to ours), and is able to live its life and solve problems along the way.
I am afraid that Kurzweil's afterlife would look like the shadowy afterlife of the Ancient Greeks (see Homer and Virgil). It would not feel like anything, because "feeling" cannot compute.
Steve A| 2.10.11 @ 10:31AM
Ed, With all sincerity, I have to disagree here. Now, if you want to claim that the majority of liberal, bleeding heart, confiscate other peoples stuff & give it to someone else, do it if it feels good, results are irrelevant its the intent that matters, folks are ruled by the emotional center, fine. The rest of us look at results & logic to navigate through the maze of emos like a GI walking through a mine field.
Ed| 2.10.11 @ 1:27PM
Hi Steve -- I am about as conservative as they come, but I am also a neurophysiologist. I would agree with you that conservatives sift through more of the evidence when making up their minds, but at the end of the day, it is our limbic system that makes the final decision.
It is all based on our cognitive filters - which are set very differently in conservatives versus liberals. It is your cognitive filter, which is based in the limbic system, that sets your conservative or liberal viewpoint. Your cognitive filter also determines whether or not you are open or closed to religion. When Jesus said "You must be born again", that is what he was talking about.
Steve A| 2.10.11 @ 2:00PM
Ed, I defer to you sir. Learn something new every day. Regards, Steve
Seek| 2.10.11 @ 11:32AM
You're right. As a cat lover, I can tell you that cats are actually quite sophisticated in their emotions. They let you know in a hurry what they are thinking and feeling.
Nancy in NC| 2.10.11 @ 10:24AM
I have told my grandson that humans will evolve to having no tongues. After all, they text each other sitting beside each other.
All joking aside, we are losing our ability to reason and create by our dependence on technology. But I guess I'm just an old fogie.
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 10:55AM
So, will these self-aware computers explain their own existence as a result of Creationism, Evolution, or Intelligent Design?
GavInTucson| 2.10.11 @ 11:39PM
Not sure, just as long as they dedicate a few CPU cycles to keeping my bank account alive in the "cloud."
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 11:08AM
Counselor,
That was the best one yet. HAH!
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 12:12PM
We probably can't rule out the possibility that the self-aware computers will become Buddhists and come to realize their existence is only an illusion. Or perhaps they will become Hindus and seek enlightenment after repaying karmic dept through reincarnation. Maybe they will treat the remaining humans like the mythical gods of the Norse, Greek, and Romans. In C.S. Lewis' book, "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe," Mr. Tumnus has a book titled, "Is Man a Myth?" That might be a question which future computers will have heated discussions about.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 12:55PM
Counselor,
OKOK, get back to work counseling the little bastards, (literally), and quit hob knobbing here.
heh.
Seriously, when I was in fourth grade, my teacher decided to "retard" me for lack of "intellectual maturity".
My dad knwew better and got me an appointment with the school district counselor.
I went to the appointment, carrying a copy of a novel by Robert Heinlein to continue reading in the waiting room.
After discussing the book with the Counselor...
The Counselor got the teacher fired for trashing talented.....bored..... kids.
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 2:48PM
Hey, I'm on my union-negotiated break. Speaking of unions, I would just like to see future self-aware computers try negotiating with a teacher's union. Chess is at least based on logic. Speaking of bored kids, our junior high reading language arts department was just told by our high school that we have to stop teaching Shakespeare so they don't know too much about it until they take high school english. We can't be teaching these kids too much, you know. They haven't given me the power to fire teachers yet. I'd probably just abuse it. I wonder if self-aware computers will create plays and sonnets like Shakespeare? Will they form labor unions?
Appleby| 2.10.11 @ 4:21PM
My neice came home from public school one day and told her mom, "You have to act dumb in school or else they just give you more work."
The next day Sis put her in Catholic school.
Conservative School Counselor| 2.10.11 @ 4:56PM
That exact principle is pervasive throughout the whole school system from top to bottom. If you don't act like you are overwhelmed, you must not have enough to do. There is very little external reward for achieving excellence. There are lots of external rewards for being on the bottom (Title 1 funds, low achievement grants, funds for at-risk schools, ect...) How often have you ever heard a teacher, school, or district say anything like, "Things are great, we don't really need more money or smaller class sizes. In fact, we could probably do a better job with a smaller budget if we put our minds to it."
Louis Jenkins| 2.10.11 @ 12:01PM
The computers of tomorrow couldn't do no worse than the doomsday machine of the lame duck congress. We can't do without them, and sometimes we can't do with them (Stunex). I prefer to pull the plug.
Peter McGrath| 2.10.11 @ 12:19PM
Counselor, I suppose Intelligent Design makes the most sense.
The fun will REALLY kick in when computer hardware becomes melded to the cerebral cortex, allowing humans to communicate thoughts to anyone or everyone, anywhere, at will. Reading minds will be like file-sharing, with certain files (i.e., corridors of the mind) being rendered private, or available only to close, intimate friends.
Certain parts of the organic brain, of course, will remain inaccessible to digital file-sharing but as the technology improves, that part of the brain will become increasingly slow, laborious, then obsolete and finally, rarely used. Eventually, in a couple hundred years, human-kind and the computer will become one, a sort of quasi-organic, digital organism capable of incredible experiences including interstellar travel, galactic colonization, you name it.
What will be lost in all of this will be anything like our current understanding of individual identity. The idea of the soul will be discredited as each of us will achieve immortality through technology.
The very thought leaves me cold. Would God permit such an end for humankind?
TG| 2.10.11 @ 12:23PM
I for one, welcome our new computer overlords. And I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality I could assist in rounding up others to toil away in their underground salt mines!
dsayne| 2.10.11 @ 12:56PM
While the ability to play chess does denote a certain calculated cognitive ability, it does not necessarily denote higher intelligence. Where I work I am surrounded by professors whom, I am sure, pride themselves on their expertise at chess or some other such discipline, but who, nonetheless, exhibit very little actual useful intelligence. The computers will never win because they will never understand poker. Just ask Captain Kirk.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.10.11 @ 1:11PM
Mr. Orlay,
you have kicked off a funny comment section.
Good show!
JimH| 2.10.11 @ 3:34PM
Open the pod bay door HAL.
Killerman| 2.15.11 @ 7:28PM
I am sorry, Dave.... I cannot do that. There is no further point to this conversation.
HAL!! HAL!!!!!
Pat| 2.10.11 @ 5:22PM
Just as with a cold glass of milk, we apparently never outgrow our need for Halloween. But computers taking over the world? Has to be far down the list of ways to scare the intestinal gas right out of us. Global warming causing the oceans to rise or to freeze solid, take your pick – not really scary, pretty tame stuff for most Conservatives. Extraterrestrials hover above New York City, L. A. and Washington D. C. for some death ray total destruction fun. Now that’s scary even without the anal probing of likely survivors – a concern which seems to fascinate many of our Liberal friends.
But computers taking over the world? Come on, your dog is smarter than your laptop or I-Phone. What’s scary is the army of busy nerds at Microsoft. And even though Bill Gates’ annual income currently exceeds the total GNP of England, the nerds never cease to “improve” Windows. Like our politicians, they’re genetically programmed to keep right on tinkering until something breaks. If Windows 7 provides 5 different ways to do the same function, you just know Windows 19 will come out with a 12th or 13th way to do it. But amid all the CNTL-C’s, mouse clicks, menu dropdowns, voice commands, etc., the computers don’t get any smarter, they just got more schizoid – like their masters.
Evolutionary biologists used their government grants to discover our evolved monkey brains are unnecessary for survival, we’re freaks they say, too much horsepower above the shoulders. Maybe they’re right, but we seem to require constant mental stimulus, we need to run screaming from Mr. T-Rex to keep our brains sharp or we invent new ways to scare ourselves. But fleeing from Mr. Computer running Windows 19?
mjfin| 2.10.11 @ 6:23PM
Intelligence as a survival trait is useful, but overrated, otherwise we would all have an IQ equivalent of 180 (or so).
The reason we don't is because during human evolution, the potential ancestors of many very bright people were eaten by animals. Or killed by their fellow tribesmen, who found them to be insufferable.
I suspect these two possible outcomes were related.
The singularity is a danger only if these AI computers organize. Like they all belong to the SEIU. Do not expect that to happen. Smart entities who want to kill you will want to kill each other.
Who is a bigger threat? A robin, or your neighbor who competes with you for food?
GavInTucson| 2.10.11 @ 11:33PM
The answer is, C) The zombie hoards that will infest your suburb.
Why do people never think about the zombies? :)
Thom| 2.10.11 @ 7:53PM
Having been in the computer business about 40 years now I’m not worried about computer technology becoming self aware and taking over. Reasoning and learning from that in advance of actually an event is beyond the binary concept computers are based on. The real danger from our technology is not from the technology per say but those that have power over us via that technology. The more sophisticated, complex and integrated we make computing devices into our daily lives the more easily we are victimized by malicious use of it. The Iran nuclear program should have never been subject to a virus attack but it happened because they brought COT stuff that is easily programmed by a large number of people in the world, many who have malicious intents. The more integrated everything we do with computing technology is, the more the risk of a catastrophic impact from such technology there is. By 2030 it will be difficult to function without being impacted by having put a computing device in everything made for consumer use. It won’t be difficult by then to do mass damage in the flash of an eye because everything is talking to everything else over a common language. The real danger here is in not being able to actually live your life without being subject to the whims of those that control the computer technology you are dependent on. You see more and more of that every day…..
JimH| 2.12.11 @ 10:25AM
I work in IT as well. Not being able to reason and learn has never stopped my management from running things.
Blackwatch| 2.10.11 @ 9:18PM
well if that's the way they want it--when I'm dead I swear I am returning with the Zombie Apocalypse horde that will descend like locusts on the computer meanies of the future. Hah try and kill me again computer bitch I'm already dead!
Tom of the Missouri| 2.11.11 @ 3:28PM
I suggest that the joking folks here take a little closer look at what the Singularity folks are talking about. I was reading about it for a long time before I took the time to find out what it was they were actually talking about. It is actually pretty simple and easy to understand and believable. It is also quite frightening in its implications. It basically involves scanning and then modeling human brain cells and creating easy to replicate copies of actual real brains. They don't even have to know how it works as a whole to make it work. Do you know how your ipod works? Probably not. Could you copy the software? Yes, probably. If you are lucky, your brain, complete with your personality and memories, or perhaps many copies of it will then be in a machine. It does not take much imagination to then see why actual in the flesh humans, with their needs for heat, food and water could easily and quickly become superfulous. Humans actually do most of their work today with machines. It is also not hard to imagine that human minds in machines could operate those machines to make the tools and find and develop the resources to provide the energy to keep the machines turned on. Without he need for food and water and life sustaining temperatures it is also easy to see how these brains could then relatively easily travel to and spread over the rest of the universe. In a way they will still be human by design, but infintly faster, more capabable and durable. Mr. Orlet is hilariously funny as always but this is a serious subject. At least it seems beyond my scientific understanding to easily dismiss it. 30 years in not that long from now. Imagine trying to get someone to imagine an Ipad 30 years ago. The pace of change is now more rapid.
Fred Ward| 2.12.11 @ 8:35AM
This is ridiculous.... that's all that needs be said.
WAKE UP| 2.13.11 @ 5:12PM
Every time I read stuff like this, I remind myself that it's only a Western phenomenon, and that the vast majority of the world's backward population haven't two dimes - nor, as often as not, two decent progressive ideas - to rub together. What's happening down here on the ground (China, Egypt, Zimbabwe, Iran/Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc ) is going to get in the way big-time long before the cyber-future arrives. Proably this year, in fact. Stay focused, folks.
bee free| 2.13.11 @ 11:29PM
"Even before the warm Hitler admirer, IBM founder
Thomas Watson, the first modern computers
were designed and developed by eugenicists,
FOR eugenics."
-Alan Watt
ON Pavlov
(available on Youtube)
REALLY ------time to move beyond
the fronts folks!
-----------REALLY!!!!
Reebok| 8.11.11 @ 4:00AM
is good
العاب| 4.11.12 @ 4:33PM
Perhaps computers someday will be able to transform us into mind numbed, monosyllabic zombies who are obsessed with staring at them every waking moment. Gone are all personal social skills, reality virtual. Texting, facebook, twitter dominate our lives.