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Distancing Obama
White House nervous about Hasan. Also: Obama’s Berlin wall.
SECURITY CHECK
While it is true that alleged Fort Hood shooter, Maj.
Nidal Malik Hasan, never served in an any
role for the Obama Administration’s transition team, the White
House was concerned enough about Hasan’s appearance on a list of
attendees at a homeland security conference that it ran a check
on Hasan before President Obama made impromptu remarks about the
shooting last week.
“You hate to say it, but this is what it’s come to,” says a White House source. “It’s part of making sure the President isn’t burned.”
Of course, that didn’t stop the White House from giving Obama prep notes for his remarks about Fort Hood that included mention of the now infamous “Medal of Honor shout out” to Dr. Joe Medicine Crow, who was bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom award three months ago by Obama.
BERLIN NO SHOW
During her visit to the United States last week, German
Chancellor Angela
Merkel’s team made it clear to the White
House that the German government was disappointed by the small
U.S. delegation being sent to Berlin to mark the 20th anniversary
of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Despite attempts by Democrats to
create the impression that European leaders have largely embraced
Obama, Christian Democrat Merkel has been wary of Obama from the
start, since his campaign worked so closely with the Social
Democratic Party during the presidential campaign.
Early on, there had been discussions of Obama himself traveling for the ceremony, but White House officials nixed it, not only because it would be the same setting as that of his campaign appearance and major speech in July 2008, but because the tone and content of any remarks he delivered this time would be vastly different from the speech that President Ronald Reagan made back in 1987.
“A speech there would have been a huge moving target for us,” says a State Department official familiar with the discussions earlier this year. “We knew about the missile defense decision, but knowing what we know now about things like the Afghan policy decision coming down the road, it would have been difficult to put him up there.”
Instead, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will lead the delegation. The White House nixed sending Vice President Joe Biden.
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Appleby| 11.9.09 @ 6:26AM
When is the Teachers Pet going to realize that IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT HIM, ALL THE TIME?
Never mind.
Alan Brooks| 11.9.09 @ 8:42PM
"The problem is that Colonels no longer become Generals unless they are PC through and through. "
Even at restaurants you have to be PC, you have to say "hot oil massaged chicken", instead of roasted.
In the Service today you don't shoot an enemy, you "gently place a bullet in his midsection"
We're all kinder and gentler today.
Alan Brooks| 11.9.09 @ 8:45PM
You don't blow the enemy's head off, you:
"artistically rearrange his cranium"
You don't bury the enemy's corpse, you:
"put him to bed and tuck him into the ground"
Alan Brooks| 11.9.09 @ 8:49PM
At KFC they don't serve fried chicken anymore,
the chickens are AARP-certified retired chickens who were helped by heat therapy.
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Melvin| 11.9.09 @ 7:24AM
Oh, excuse us naive illiterate savages for even beginning to think that the shooter in Fort Hood had any ties to Islam. Gee, thank goodness for President Obama and Big Sis from Homeland Security to remind us not to jump to any rash conclusions. Who knows what might happen if we had the freedom to come to our own conclusions.
Just how stupid do those in charge of keeping the country safe think we are? The audacity and utter arrogance of President Obama and Janet Napolitano to even suggest that the American people are incapable of thinking for ourselves. John Nichols, further rubs salt into the wound by stating that Americans need to separate Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan from his faith, because he was under stress. Needing to separate Major Hasan from his faith is akin to separating Islam from it's extremism, it isn't going to happen.
I'm sorry, nobody exactly twisted Major Hasan's arm when he shouted "Allahu Akhbar" as he began to pump bullets into unarmed, and pregnant Americans, whose only crime was defending the likes of John Nichols and the other bleeding hearts.
Where is the sympathy for those murdered and maimed by this Jihadist? Does John Nichols shed a tear for those murdered the same way he sheds tears for the religious extremist who made a vow to his religion to murder as many infidels as fast as he could.
Only a naive fool would consider this terrorist attack as an attack of some lone gunman who couldn't cope. This line of thinking, and a massive failure of foreign and domestic policy will only foster more terrorist attacks like the one in the future. My fellow Americans, political correctness is getting us murdered and the extreme left in charge of security of this country is unwilling to stop attacks like the one in Fort Hood, all in the name of political correctness. We must stop this scourge because our government will not.
loulou| 11.9.09 @ 11:57AM
On Fox I heard a retired general say, shortly after the massacre, "this is not a terrorist attack."
What has happened to our military?
Old Marine| 11.9.09 @ 1:00PM
Our military is fine. The problem is that Colonels no longer become Generals unless they are PC through and through. Fighting skills and leadership are distant considerations and honesty is a career killer.
Adam Smith| 11.10.09 @ 4:48AM
Melvin & Old Marine,
Two of the most concise and direct posts I've read.
Bruce | 11.10.09 @ 10:48AM
Exactly right, Marine. This is especially so among naval Flag Officers. But then the marines have known that for quite some time, have they not?
Happy Birthday to you, sir!
Robert Rosencrans| 11.9.09 @ 7:37AM
Immediately after the shooting there was a statement released from the White House that the shooting was not a terrorist attack. Look at the spin in the press coverage. Yesterday, an AP article stated that Hasan was a "good family man and member of the community." That was the headline as they try to make him look like a misguided individual and not a terrorist. The Obama administration and their cohorts in the press will never say anything negative about a member of any radical group. Don't forget that Obama's own church was filled to the brim with people who shouted out anti-white and anti-American political hate speech for twenty years. Then of course, Obama claimed he never inhaled that.
MikeBee| 11.9.09 @ 7:13PM
No surprise at all at the liberal press' and radical liberal B.O.'s treatment of Hasan. What Hasan did is really no different than what B.O.'s big buddy, the "Education Scholar" Bill Ayers did in his earlier days. Of course; just a misguided act from a person who really couldn't have meant to do what he did. Perhaps Hasan will be given the Medal of Honor by B.O. (or was that the Medal of Freedom?) Doesn't matter; he won't remember which anyway.
Timothy L. Pennell| 11.9.09 @ 7:54AM
Now, who says this guy's not a NARCISIST?
Where do ya start, here?
Why would this MUSLIM PSYCHO be at a HOMELAND SECURITY CONFERENCE? He was, 'supposedly', a psychiatrist. Why would a MUSLIM PSYCHIATRIST, be invited to a Homeland Security 'ANYTHING'?
You bring up the IDIOT IN CHIEFS' shout out. What you fail to mention is all the WEDGIES he was gining everyone, and how he was snapping a towel on Michelles' Big Booty. This guy is a DISGRACE. These MUSLIM SCUM know a WEAK HORSE when they see one, and him being elected is a GREEN LIGHT to every GOAT LOVING, PSYCHO KILLER, RAG HEAD, on the PLANET. (Remember. The S.O.B. is a MUSLIM. He was BORN A MUSLIM. PERIOD)
You mention that he isn't going to BERLIN, to 'Celebrate' the falling of the WALL. Why would he? In his mind, the Wall going UP was the good part. Not the Wall coming down. Look around you. He's trying to REPLICATE East Germany, RIGHT NOW! And he doesn't want to go because it's gonna be at the same venue as his last speech? Is that why he's never at THE WHITE HOUSE? Because he's already been there once? You wait and see how FAST he moves when one of his South American Comrades invites him down for a doobie. And his White House 'Officials' because "his remarks would be vastly different from RONALD REAGAN"?
Ya think?
Again. What a DISGRACE..
"And I saw the BEAST rise up from the Sea. And he was given a MOUTH, to speak haughty and Blasphemous words. And he was allowed to exercise authority for FORTY TWO MONTHS." REVELATIONS 13-5.
Sounds like our Boy, to me.
Robert Rosencrans| 11.9.09 @ 9:39AM
Your question related to why a psycho terrorist would be at a Homeland Security conference should be phrased more as a statement of fact because it happened. This is related to Obama's radicalism. And that is exactly why the American press is trying to spin the Hasan incident as a tragedy as opposed to a planned terrorist attack.
SoCon| 11.11.09 @ 12:28AM
Nah, Zero's voted 'present' too many times to be the AntiChrist; the moron doesn't have the stones.
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WilliamInWien| 11.9.09 @ 8:12AM
I recall reading more than once that "psychiatrists", as a profession, have a fairly high suicide rate. I do not recall reading about this professional group having a record of mass murders. The DHS Queen would not know a threat to US security until after the fact, just as our Commander-In-Chief does not know a "Medal of Honor" from a political/popularity Medal of Freedom. As far as being despondent, I guess a little self diagnosis was beyond "Dr. Nidal". Of all the European leaders, I think Ms. Merkel gauged the O-man's depth early on, we could use some leaders like Ms. Merkel right here in the USA!
Mike Giles| 11.9.09 @ 2:02PM
>"I recall reading more than once that "psychiatrists", as a profession, have a fairly high suicide rate. I do not recall reading about this professional group having a record of mass murders."<<br />
Just as with murder bombers, Sudden Jihad Syndrome IS the Islamic form of suicide. Its just that this murderous clown didn't get his martyrdom and a free pass to Paradise.
martin j smith| 11.9.09 @ 8:26AM
First I would point out the last Bush in his second term was getting wonky on terrorism and incidents which seemed terror related were a bit too quickly denied as terrorist incidents like the Shooting at JFK
airport in July ( ? year ) and others. Bush probably would have been in Berlin, I will give him that. But Obama--this guy is a Chavez,Castro, wanna be. Un-elect him
gerald stephens| 11.9.09 @ 8:29AM
QUACK, quack!
Sounds like a lame duck to me. Chancellor Merkel is not the first of the world leaders to realize that the 'great leader' is someone to be wary of. Israel is the most glaring example followed by Mr. Obama's failure to act on what he said was a matter of critical national security, the Afghan war.
In addition to being lame one might conjecture warped as well.
Gerald Stephens
Hartford, CT
Big J| 11.9.09 @ 8:57AM
MaObama asks that we don't "jump to conclusions" regarding Hasan's Islamic faith?
This must be a right reserved for him exclusively. Especially regarding how "stupidly" the Cambridge police acted when arresting one of his activist (black) buddies at a college.
Maybe Obama can invite all of the peace loving Imams over for a cold beer this weekend, and all of this will be cleared up.
Surely no rational-thinking American doubts where Mr. Obama's loyalties lie.
Here's a clue: It's NOT with the security and well being of the American people.
Marc Jeric| 11.10.09 @ 6:02AM
Well spoken, Sir. "Let us not jump to conclusions" - said Abu Hussein from Kenya, our Community Organizer-in-Chief when that jihadi terrorist murdered 13 unarmed US soldiers. But when that "professor" and director of Harvard's Du Bois Institute assaulted a white officer and was arrested Obama immediately jumped to conclusion - racism, stupidity he said. Who was this Du Bois? He was a ranking member of the Communist Party USA and a proud recipient of the Lenin Peace Prize - that's who!
Northern rebel | 11.9.09 @ 8:57AM
Wow, did I have a rant!
However,
TIMOTHY L. PENNELL, said it all!
Kudos to you, sir!
Could someone explain to this poor bumpkin Northern Rebel, what this pingback phenomenon is?
So far, it has been something I just scroll down, and ignore. However, my curiosity has gotten the best of me. Is there any relevance here?
I'm eager to be informed.
Campy| 11.9.09 @ 7:14PM
Reb,
Don't know if you'll get back here, but Pingback is an auto link-back program to notify authors (bloggers) when their story is linked elsewhere; not really a person. Hope that helps.
C
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 9:00AM
Melvin: You asked, "Just how stupid do those in charge of keeping the country safe think we are? "
They think we are morons. And they are right.
We elected this monster as president. And we will stand by and do NADA while the Army now bends over backward even further to prove that we mean Islam no harm. Perhaps they will establish a separate military branch just for Islamofascists who actively pursue the murder of American soldiers. I mean, that would only be fair, wouldn't it? That would be "celebrating diversity," wouldn't it? Who are we mostly white Americans of European descent to judge jihadists? From their perspective, they are just as patriotic as we are.
There is NO limit to the insanity to which this country has descended. From the Health Care debacle to Cap and Trade to the cynical co-opting of corrupt Wall Street titans to the unprecedented proliferation of czars to the takeover of the auto industry to the ongoing attempt to put people into houses they can't possibly pay for to the debasing of the currency to the demonization of capitalism, the Constitution and Christianity (the three pillars that once held America up as a beacon to the world) to the obliteration of borders and the concomitant elevation of illegal immigrants to the status of uber-citizens to the coddling of dictators abroad to the enslavement of the middle class - ALL WITH THE APPROVAL OF A HUGE SEGMENT OF AMERICANS - we really do deserve our fate.
We get the government we deserve. Payback is going to be a bitch.
It's over, folks. Even if America wakes up enough to rebuff Obama now, and famously fickle independents and moderates swing rightward, we know that the tilt toward conservatism will be both feckless and short-lived, and the next Obama is waiting in the wings for the next swing back to the left to pick up the torch of tyranny - just as soon as the next Republican president proves to be a follower of the mob and not a leader of Americans (too bad Schwarzenneger can't run - he'd be the perfect go-along-to-get-along poster boy for "big tent" Republicanism that Peggy Noonan, David Frum, David Brooks, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, among others, drool over).
The truth is, the utter destruction of this country, its institutions and its traditions is just peachy keen for a huge segment of our society because these fools are utterly self-absorbed and concerned only with narcissisitc moral preening and the vanity of ostentatiously absolving themselves of the twin sins of racism and "economic imperialism" that they will gleefully line up for a trip to the slaughterhouse. Of course they think the thirst of the ravenous statist beast will be slaked before it's THEIR turn to be gutted. They are wrong.
American Exceptionalism is dead. The enemy has won. We have become a sclerotic, dying, decadent, corrupt, smoldering piece of statist debris, like a sun that has burned through its fuel. Our future is as a black hole.
I'm sure Roman citizens thought Rome could never fall. They were wrong. And the second law of thermodynamics teaches us that every system eventually devolves into chaos.
And that’s where we are. We have arrived in an Alice-in-Wonderland world where good is bad, up is down, “progress” is moving backward, real is unreal, and values are considered immoral.
Watch your step getting off of the insanity express. The ground in this Brave New World has a tendency to crumble under your feet.
Steve| 11.9.09 @ 9:21AM
As always, grzmlyk, well-thought out and well said. Let me ask you this: the barbarians have won and Alaric is now *emperor*. What next? Is it within the realm of possibility for decent citizens to re-group in a given geographical section and go their own way? To secede, in other words? Or is that crazy talk?
Larry| 11.9.09 @ 9:36AM
Time for the Irish monks to gather the great works of literature and science from all over the world, and hide them under the abbey for 700 years.
Pinnybogg | 11.9.09 @ 9:47AM
don't ever, ever pin this election of Obama on me!!!!!!!!!!!!! I saw who and what he was way way before the election. i did not vote for him I do not support him as my president, I am waiting still for my next president to be elected. I do not and I repeat do not take any blame for this so called American.
Big J| 11.9.09 @ 9:49AM
Grzmlyk,
Please tell me you have a blog somewhere. I love reading your posts. If you don't, you might consider it. It has been a great outlet for me (while I am not even a contender compared to your prose), and I am just a lowly electrician.
Link please?
By the way, I hope your are wrong on this one. I maintain the slightest level of sanity by believing that people are generally good, freedom loving and hard working (generally). I believe that the American spirit trumps tyranny, and freedom is flowing through our veins.
Maybe I'm just being naive, but it helps me sleep at night.
Matt Morehouse| 11.9.09 @ 10:06AM
If you don't have a blog please consider posting here:
http:/conversationsaroundawoodstove.blogspot.com
TennesseeVolunteer| 11.9.09 @ 9:51AM
American exceptionalism dies when the last one of us gives up. I'm pretty down right now but I'M NOT GIVING UP! I've got two young adult sons that need to see a man fight when he's down, but never out.
drudge ette obama| 11.10.09 @ 7:23AM
TennesseeVolunteer, rest easy. Those sons of yours know already that you'll never give up. I hope they have families and are raising lots of children. The future will need them.
my prayer| 11.9.09 @ 7:42PM
spot on
Adam Smith| 11.10.09 @ 5:03AM
Grz,
Thanks for the read.
We are at the brink, and given how deep and widespread the rot is (to the observant and informed), we may well have gone over the edge.
There are too many factors coming together for the perfect shit storm right now. Too many internal and external situations for the country, in too many critical areas...
The hopenchange agenda is just going to make things spiral out of control quicker.
It would not have been that much slower under McCain I fear either...
Marc Jeric| 11.10.09 @ 6:08AM
Well said, Sir. 40 years of teacher unions have resulted in a population that can't read nor think and is full of self-esteem but can vote for Abu Hussein from Kenya, a dedicated revolutionary marxist.
drudge ette obama| 11.10.09 @ 7:27AM
I can't get off the insanity express. There is no where to go that is better.
I can only speak while I can and provide an example to the youth of an at times lazy Patriot who never thought it would get this bad.
The fire is coming down the pike. If it is not too deep, perhaps I can run straight through it. With my spear pointed straight ahead to catch a few fish on the way.
penelope| 11.9.09 @ 9:07AM
There sure is more to this story. Someone in Obama's administration knew this shooter well enough to realize within minues/hours of the shooting that he might have ties to the administration that they needed to 'distance the President' from! This is what we have come to folks....an administration that needs to distance itself from terrorists!! If that doesn't say it all..I don't know what does!
Johnno| 11.11.09 @ 12:32AM
Bill Ayers is a terrorist and has been a friend of Obama's for many years. Obama's a terrorist.
Doctor Right| 11.9.09 @ 9:31AM
Maybe Obama's strange, giddy press conference after the Fort Hood shooting was due to the fact that, deep down inside (actually, not too deep), Obama thinks that we (America) "had it coming", and he supports Hasan's objectives, if not his actual goals..?
Based on Obama's 20-year relationship with America-hating "Pastor" Jeremiah Wright, it's not to hard to believe.
Papa Ray| 11.9.09 @ 9:36AM
Our Founder's not only warned us against all this, but wrote rules and regulations in our Bill of Rights (and it's Preamble), our Constitution meant to warn, prepare and enable us to protect the Republic for which they stood, died for and wanted for all of their future generations of Americans.
So over these years, we have allowed the slow destruction of our Founder's vision, their plan and their hopes for our Republic- by our inability to understand and stop those like Pelosi, Reid, Obama and their host of radical thugs. By just not paying attention and/or caring about "politics".
Now we are at the point where all of the years we neglected and forgot our responsibilities to our Republic are going to finally crash down and allow the complete destruction and END of our Republic. If you don't see this, you are part of the problem.
But there is a ray of hope, Americans attention has been not only raised, but also their long held anger. They can call us the extreme right, the radical right or whatever they wish, but they have seen nothing yet. Soon they will see the real power of the right. But it will take all of us working in our communities to get out the vote and educate those who still don't understand. Yes...that mean you. You must help, it is not just your future at stake here, but your children's and your grand children's.
I pray in the next year or so there are many millions more Americans that will voice their opinion and vote accordingly, so that our Republic does not perish. But before that is allowed to happen, the below quote will be something more than just to be read. It will be something to be acted upon.
Papa Ray
Central (used to be West) Texas
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
2009 Judge Alex Kozinski
TennesseeVolunteer| 11.9.09 @ 9:53AM
Amen, brother, amen.
Doctor Right| 11.9.09 @ 10:19AM
Agree completely.
The Second Amendment is actually the most important amendment, as it ensures the survival of all of the rest.
LogicalUS| 11.9.09 @ 9:45AM
All America needs to know about this disaster of man in the Presidency is that he thinks nothing of spending 60K to take his wife on a NY date, millions to sprint over to Europe to lobby for the corrupt-o-crats in Chicago to get the Olympics or buzz out to Denver to "sign" the waste of trillions on ACORN and Planned Parenthhood sign Barry up, BUT when 13 of our beloved service members are mowed down by a Islamic terrorists nut, Obama heads to Camp David? Too busy using the murders to shame his fellow communists into voting for the Healthcare takeover.
A real man and President, George W. Bush, went quietly to Fort Hood to console the brave men and women.
Of course, to find out the TRUTH about this Islamist nut, you will have to read the foreign press which revealed over the weekend that HE attended the same mosque as the 9-11 terrorists.
Eric Damon| 11.9.09 @ 11:10AM
Actually, I am glad that Obama didn't go to Fort Hood and I'm glad that he stayed away from Berlin. I know that it might not look good for him not to show up in those places, but I truly am happy that he didn't.
Why?
Because he would have inevitably made the moment about him, instead of what it was meant to be. Think back to his morbid photo-op at the airport when the bodies of those men killed in Afghanistan came home; do any of you believe that he was actually there to honor those men? Or do you believe, as I do, that he went there to create an image of himself as the caring, thoughtful, and contemplative Commander-in-Chief as a means to cover his feckless dithering on making a decision on troop levels in Afghanistan?
What would he have said at Fort Hood that would have mattered? And how quicly would he have turned his comments at the site of the Berlin Wall to another excoriation of the American people and their past Cold Warriors? No, it is better that he stay away than have him make Berlin another stop in on the Blame America World Tour 2009, or have him start waxing poetic about the violence we see in his beloved Chicago.
This is one time that I am glad that Obama spared us his presence on the scenes of that tragedy and that place of the triumph of human freedom over tyranny.
glenny44| 11.10.09 @ 4:39PM
Eric,
Your comment about O at the airport is right on. Remember, he went to the photo-op at 3am and BROUGHT THE W. H. PHOTOGRAPHER with him. Yeah, it was about him ! glenny44
Tim| 11.9.09 @ 9:49AM
Obama's DHS re-oriented on the threats posed by rednecks and Nazis and pro-lifers, which it sees as equivalent.
If Nidal Malik Hasan emerges from his coma to testify, the biggest loser could be Obama and his political correctness minions at DHS. Lokk fot the administration to push any trial out beyond 2010, 2012 if possible.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 9:50AM
Thanks, Steve:
Because of the Civil War - which politically correct folks INSIST was NOT about slavery but really about States Rights - I do not think secession will ever happen - although I honestly wish it would.
Government has gotten so huge and powerful and all-encompassing as to be a juggernaut that is now unstoppable (which is why conservatives like Reagan couldn't even slow its growth).
And now, fully half the population doesn't pay taxes, which means every government program is FREE for 150 million "Americans." That spells doom. Frankly, I really think we're fated to an existence as a "rump" state - just a wholly-owned subsidiary of the dying European Union as China and India and Iran rise and take their place as the true global superpowers. We will do their bidding. Many of us will happily don the yoke of servitude, realizing too late that it's not just a fashionable pose they can discard when they leave the public square for the hedonistic luxury of their gated communities. They will be forced eventually to give up their comfortable lifestyles and their lip service to social justice only when the foot of oppression is on their own throats.
I do not think we can escape this fate. Our one chance, I think, would be a "velvet" revolution. We need to overthrow this government and disassemble every single institution. This is NOT a call for violence. It is an expression of the wish that a critical mass of Americans – and I’m talking millions - would assemble on the mall such that violence wouldn't be necessary.
But getting there is nigh unto impossible. I think the first thing we need to do is take back the mainstream media. They will NEVER abandon the liberal agenda and are committed traitors. Fox News and the occasional conservative Web site aren't enough to overcome ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times, Washington Post, NPR, Associated Press, etc. When I say mainstream media, I include entertainment - which is perhaps even more influential than the arthritic news organizations.
I don't know how that's going to happen, frankly, but I think we need our own George Soros. We need MONEY, and lots of it. We need to buy back some of these organizations and break their monolithic, propaganda-induced stupor. Businesses have to figure out that playing go-along-to-get along isn't going to work anymore. And we need conservative activists - which is kind of an oxymoron and one of the reasons we've lost all this territory to the liberal activists. Because it's always easier to tear something down than to build it up. Just ask any lawyer.
We also need to change the culture such that a return to personal responsibility is the bedrock upon which our institutions are rebuilt. Today's culture is the exact opposite of that; we live in a fractured mosaic of victim groups all pressing insistent claims against the vestiges of the once dominant Judeo Christian, white, Eurocentric, heterosexual dominant culture.
So I think the entire government needs to be fired and begun again. That will only happen when the oppression becomes utterly ubiquitous, and since the bread and circuses will continue to be handed out to the ignorant, uneducated masses (the "barbarians," to continue the Rome analogy), we won't awaken in this country until an EXTERNAL enemy enslaves us and the wealthy liars who profit from demonizing capitalism are themselves consumed by the fire they started.
And I don't think that's going to happen for several generations. After all, it took Rome a couple hundred years to go through its death throes. So we have lots of decline in front of us before we can even think of rising from the ashes.
I hope I'm wrong, but I know from talking to my "friends" and colleagues that I am not; our culture is simply too thoroughly infected to survive. The cancer wins; the patient dies.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 10:09AM
Thanks, Big J. I don't have a blog. I've considered it - I'm not sure I have a lot of new things to say, frankly.
But I did buy a domain name, so maybe in the next few months I'll dip my toe in.
I hope I'm wrong too. I think there's a fundamental philosophical quandary here: Are people basically good or not? Well, I'm not a parent, but I've been around neices and nephews enough to witness human nature in its formative stages. The fact is, kids are little socipaths - their behavior is only ameliorated by socialization; opprobrium is the reason they don't overtly pursue selfish goals; those guard rails have largely been removed in the name of non-judgmentalism and parents' own narcissism.
But the truth is, a kid's version of "love" is essentially a one-way street - I want, I need, etc. - until they are much older and learn to appreciate other people as separate entities as oppposed to objects within their own lives.
And I think the history of civilization proves that goodness is a much rarer commodity than evil. The beauty of American Exceptionalism was, of course, that it took prophylactic measures to inoculate the body politic against institutionalized evil. But we have long since thrown the Constitution to the winds in the name of one thing and one thing only: Greed. Greed under the guise of goodness. Greed in the form of political expediency. That's what the health care bill is about. The government doesn't want independent, self-sufficient citizens who can think for themsleves. They want cogs in the statist machine. Why? Votes. Power. Money. Greed. Evil.
So it is not only in the physical world where we see the inevitable return to chaos among systems, be they galaxies or getting old or houses that eventually fall into disrepair. I think we see the reversion to the mean of human nature as well.
It's all a cycle, like that famous quote attributed to Alexander Tytler: Societies move from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from great courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to depedence, and from dependence back to bondage.
Sadly, I believe that we are now somewhere between dependence and bondage.
Big J| 11.9.09 @ 10:26AM
You sell yourself short, Grzmlyk.
You have a lot of new things to say. I post on my blog every now and then, right before the boiling point hits.
(Insert shameless plug here): www.readmycents.blogspot.com
Try to remember something. Even if what you say is true (being between dependence and bondage), you are describing a cycle (I take the meaning as circular). That simply means that we are four steps away from liberty.
Half full, if you will.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.9.09 @ 10:15AM
Grzmlk
I truly do despise defeatist rants.
We really do have enough problems in our country without the intelligent guys like you yelling "Uncle" during a bout of depression or despair.
Bud,
we have all had those moments. At least I know I have. Then I start feeling another upwelling in my spirit. I find myself uttering the short equivalent of the phrase, "nightsoil of the male oxen!"
...Just like the voters in Virginia did, and the voters of the most dispirited State of the Union did.
Sir,
I have written it in many words and many forums for over a year now:
"I am afraid it is going to get much worse before the backlash gets up a full head of steam."
I also believe that the worse it gets, the more profound and long-lasting the roll-back/pushback will be.
One glimpse of a sample: Do you remember when President Reagan "de-unionized" the air traffic controllers? How about we de-unionize the "education unions" nation wide? How about we "de-unionize" the tenured professors across this country?
How about we send a whole ____ pot full of "Mr. Smiths" to Washington?
Failing all of the above, "we the people" have other remedies at our disposal perhaps even more decisive.
Right now though, lets get our heads on straight and start identifying those "Mr. Smiths"to send to Washington. We only need 300 of them from across this great nation for goodness sake.
By April and May next year, even the dumbest among us will have figured it out. TEAM America is focused upon "regionalizing our efforts" ie: putting our resources and shoe-leather behind "Mr. Smiths", and ignore the districts/States that are beyond our help.
danny| 11.9.09 @ 10:54AM
i'm with you ken. despair keeps trying to sneak in , but being mad as hell about our current situation manages to keep it at bay. i'm trying to wake the people around me up. starting with my own family.
WMG| 11.9.09 @ 11:05AM
We are 1 year in to a totally incompentent president's term, and 235 years of exceptionalizm are over? I think not. You go a head and give up while I am going to work with other like minded conservatives to remove this offensive odor from the oval office. I may fail, but I remember failing when I voted against Carter - ten along came Reagan. There is always another Reagan, we just have to find him/her and provide our support.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 11:11AM
Well, Ken, I understand your point of view, and I'm truly sorry.
As William F. Buckley said, the purpose of conservatism is to stand athwart history and yell, "STOP!"
Because history will pursue its inevitable trajectory.
I do not surrender. We have no choice but to work to forestall this, and I can tell you I will never be a cog in the statist machine. That will not happen.
But Tytler said what he said because he was an astute judge of human nature. And, sadly, what do you think would have happened to Mr. Smith after 10 years in Washington? Remember that Claude Rains's character started out as a paragon of virtue too, which is why Smith idolized him so much. But Rains's character became corrupted by power such that by the opening of the movie, he is the very enemy he came to Washington to fight, even though Jimmy Stewart naively believes he remains a pristine paragon of virtue.
But I take your point. I will refrain from despairing rants. Please remember, though, that this incident at Fort Hood - and what it says about the extent to which political correctness has undermined our military - combined with the ongoing disregard by pols of Americans' desires for health care "reform" - ON TOP of the conversations I have with real people I deal with every day - have rendered me feeling pretty hopeless.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.9.09 @ 12:44PM
GRZMLK
Whatever the media clones might spin, you can bet your britches the military is again closing the barn door big time...after(some) of the horses are gone.
...We got a lot more horses though, and the military HAD to wait for something like this to clamp down...Sorta' like the USS Cole lesson learned...big time.
I of course do not know from what part of the country you hail from, (heh or I forgot).
I do believe we must guard against "the leader on the white horse" , which is why I hope Sarah or some other strong woman steps forward.
Bottom line:
We have waived the membership fee to join TEAM America. www.myteamusa.org
You need a strong dose of us day to day as a sort of prophylactic against the idiots. Heck, you are already on the bad guys' lists.
Go ahead and jump in. Write me at
kbjudgeroybean06@gmail.com and discuss SOLUTIONS!
Finally, "never take counsel of your fears" George C. Scott (uh Patton, smile).
We are in battle, sir, right the hell now! Lock and load...and forward!
Campy| 11.9.09 @ 1:24PM
Grz... just gave you a compliment on a different posting! If you get a blog up and running, please let me know: always 8 @ live period com until it's overrun with spam-mation.
Understand feeling hopeless sometimes, especially when you feel surrounded by pc in every nook and cranny. But right now I'm p'd enough to rant to all my misguided lib friends...just wish I was as eloquent as you.
C.
A. James van Hine| 11.9.09 @ 11:25AM
Why is no one asking why the POTUS has to have double stacked conex units erected as barriers similar to the Iraqi green zone at Ft Hood prior to his visit? This is the U.S., this is a conus military base, the attack that happened came from within, from what we are told a disgruntled lone gunman. Someone in the media please ask this question! I have never seen this kind of measure put in place stateside before at a military installation. What are they afraid of today that they weren’t last week during his or GWs visit?
penelope| 11.9.09 @ 11:36AM
It's a photo op, so that the American people will be fooled into believing that Obama is 'in danger' from 'islamists'...not one of them himself , like some of us are beginning to suspect.
uncle curmudgeon| 11.9.09 @ 12:32PM
Golly, gee; it sounds as if the boys and girls in the marketing department are at the helm. The State Department flak frets that it would be difficult "to put him up there." apearantly thinking only of how the 2D televised image of the the One might resonate with the focus group. He sounds like the guy the promoter sends out to anounce that Britany or Jacko must cancel tonight's appearance. No Biden? It confirms what I have long suspected: they have no sense of humor.
Oldefarte| 11.9.09 @ 12:42PM
When are Americans going to WAKE UP and realize who this guy really is. Obviously it didn't happen pre 11/4/08; and now after his avoiding the NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER, his absence from Killien, Texas; his hiring of Van Jones, Vallery Jarrett,etc; his promotion of socialist-welfare programs/legislation; his stalling on sending more [military requested] troops to Afganistan; his accusing a policeman correctly doing his job as acting 'stupidly'; are taxpayer-voters finally going to stop and 'smell the roses' on who, what he actually is??????????
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.9.09 @ 12:51PM
Olde Farte
We here at least know exactly who he is. He is at least the "front-man" in charge of dismantling America.
Get over the bitching and start working into the future, OK?
Dixie Pixie| 11.9.09 @ 1:03PM
During the 2008 Presidential campaign the question arose what would Obama do if there was a Islamic terrorist attack on american soil. We now have that answer. Obama bobs, weaves and then heads for the media high grass to hide. The MSM Media does its best to deny a attack has occurred. The governmental officials do their best to bury the attack as fast as possible. Osama bin Laden must be laughing at Obama's reaction.
Eric| 11.9.09 @ 1:09PM
if this attack happened on 9/12/01 you better believe it would immediately be classified as a "terrorist attack."
Now we're soft and have forgotten the war on terror... OOPS, I mean overseas contingency operations. Look, we elected President Shout-Out as our CIC.
rssg| 11.9.09 @ 1:12PM
The enemy is Islam and consequently, moooooslims. Immigration is the real issue. Allowing an enemy to populate your country and even serve in your Army is insanity.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 1:25PM
Ken:
I gotcha. Will do.
However, did you hear General Casey's comments about "diversity," and how, essentially, such incidents are a small price to pay for a "diverse" army? I quote:
"As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse."
Diversity is the OPPOSITE of strength. In the context of Casey's CRAVEN comments - and every other politician who bends over backwards to show they CARE - it is toxic. It is a code word for the the balkanization of American values and the destruction of the prevailing culture.
The army has long been a petrie dish for liberal social experimentation as prescribed by the New York Times. It has produced brave heroes who have defended freedom not because of its culture, but in spite of it.
Unbelieveable.
P. Madigan| 11.12.09 @ 11:08AM
I completely agree. I was a member of the Army during the cold war era. As an intelligent, thinking man, I understood the psychology of the "breaking down" of the individual that each recruit was subjected to during basic training. We were to be divested of our individuality and re-born with esprit d' corps. I fear that no longer happens. We were selfless in our mission to oppose the enemies of America. Our drills didn't care if they hurt our feelings, they cared that we became an efficient fighting force, a body of soldiers who would commit to an objective in spite of the potential of harm to ourselves. We believed in mission, and that mission was imposed by a group of men who learned the hard way in Vietnam. Diversity was not an objective. We all bled "green", Army Green. What has happened? Someone in charge is afraid of backlash for enforcing discipline? Afraid of being perceived as a bigot for raising the alrm over an obviously disturbed individual because of his background? It sickens me to no end that this has become commonplace. It also heartens me that, in spite of all that has happened, we can still field an all volunter force that cannot be opposed on the battle field.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 1:29PM
By the way, thank you, Campy.
Ken ought to relate to this reference: The Alamo. We may go down, but we will not go down without a fight.
I will undertake a blog - I already have the domain, so I might as well use it. And as Ken says, one way or another I'll wind up on a list.
I'm waiting for the Stalinist purges to begin. I wouldn't be surprised to see Glenn Beck "disappear" within the next year or so.
old white guy| 11.9.09 @ 3:22PM
you guys have the second amendent and i'm sure you know what it means.
Campy| 11.9.09 @ 1:36PM
Uh Grz... one thing: "every other politician who bends over backwards to show they CARE..."
I don't think they're bending over 'backwards!'
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Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 1:50PM
Touche, Campy.
What really galls me is the smiles that appear on their faces as they bend over forward. I guess they've learned to "relax and enjoy it."
A lot of people in this country should be charged with treason. Starting with Obama and his czars and going to Pelosi and Reid and Murtha and most of the rest of the Congress - and including General Casey. And two thirds of Hollywood. And everybody at the NY Times, CBS, ABC, NBC. . . .
Ken(Old Texican)| 11.9.09 @ 2:14PM
GRZMLK
Now you are cookin'!
I would hope you will continue to blog here at amspec, and
http://judgeroy.wordpress.com
If you go to judgeroy, you will note our direct mouse-over to amspec here.
Our web guy, (I met him through my business) has taken us virally across the internet. His company is as good as they come....and committed.
Once signed in and logged in, you are welcome to blog, but please be positive there.
We have the power and the guts to turn it all around. I have bet my life on it. Please, if you choose to join, read the headings and click on them for background. "about us" "Veterans" etc.
Campy| 11.9.09 @ 2:19PM
Ken,
You took the words right out of my mouth. Get thee writing Mr. Grz.
C.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 2:35PM
Will do, guys. Time for the rubber to meet the road.
Besides, although I like the hands-off rules for commenters at American Spectator (unlike the very tight reins held by the moderators at American Thinker), I have a problem with the AmSpec site - that stupid ad that keeps popping up every time I log in does something to my cookies, and I can only write one comment per session. I have to get off the site, go into my control panel and delete ALL cookies, then get back onto the AmSpec site in order to comment EACH TIME. What a drag. Otherwise, my comments disappear into the ether - which has happened more times than I can say.
So it's getting to be more of a drag to fulfill my blogging instincts on this site anyway. And the trolls - ugh.
So I'll do it!
Jim O'Brien| 11.9.09 @ 3:07PM
Obama and Napolitano have warned us not to jump to conclusions about Major Hasan. Nevertheless, let us remember the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, United Airlines flight #93 (intended for the Capitol or the White House), the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing, Pan Am flight 103 over Scotland, the USS Cole, the American embassy in Nairobi, Kenya on 8/7/1998, the 241 American servicemen killed at Beirut, Lebanon in October 1983, and thousands of dead and wounded American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan --- all fighting Islamism.
But Obama thinks his religion is peaceful? I haven't seen much evidence of that.
old white guy| 11.9.09 @ 3:19PM
let's see. ya stick your arse in the air and your face in the dirt and pray to a rock in saudia arabia . you believe what the koran and other hate literature by the pedophile prophet and hell he aint dangerous. get the shit out of your eyes.
Mr.Reality| 11.9.09 @ 4:55PM
GRZ, an intelligent economic war against the media conglomerates is a good idea. But we need guidance. Just who the hell is everybody in media ? Who owns what ? Who profits and how from the cable dollars ? One hundred million households or more have cable or whatever. Is the average bill what ? 50 bucks a month. If you get one nickel per payer that is 5million a month. This how lefty jerks like Larry David get ultra rich . They draw big bucks for lame episodes of Seinfeld very few ever watch. These people are set up so sweet. 10 or so years ago the republicans proposed ala cart cable, just pay for what you use. Somehow it faded away. The media are the persuaders, the brainwashers, the misinformation and disinformation experts. People on this page will never get a fair say it seems. Imagine the takeover of just one network by people who think differently ? Also get a read on who actually watches what these days. The most ardent democrats watch the networks, read their papers and magazines, etc. Things have improved. There was a time when you had to depend on Time and Newsweek and the papers. I remember going to news stands and hoping to find a copy of National Review or Commentary. The Wall Street Journal was hard to find. Hurt them in the pocket book. It's impacting newspapers, now on to the television. Go after that cable money stream I say. If 5 million concerned house holds gave up their cable and FIOS it would stagger them. But we won't give up our tube will we, and thus we betray those without boots and socks suffering with cold bleeding feet as they marched against the enemy at Valley Forge. Get hard, get real bust the pocket books of these smug vile media punks.
bluecollarbytes| 11.9.09 @ 8:09PM
Ken (Old Texican), great outlook and points.
-I admit to being discouraged as Obama and Democratics ravage the country. But it looks as though folks are waking up. Unfortunately generations are still being taught what to think, not to think freely, independently. Ultimately the country goes full blown socialist, but maybe well into the future, so I won't be saddened by it.
Osamas Pajamas| 11.9.09 @ 10:32PM
Look at it this way. The public school system and Democrat-infested colleges and universities have been pixxing on the kids' brains for decades. All you can do is warn your kids, nieces, nephews and their friends that this is what is being done to them, because the bloodsuckers teaching them despise America ---- except for their fat salaries and pensions, of course, provided by the taxpayers.
JJ| 11.9.09 @ 11:26PM
How far can a radical wacked-out muslim move up the army chain of command without getting fired? That's how far.
How far can a radical left-wing liberal move up the Washington ladder without getting stopped?
That's how far.
PC America couldn't stop Hasan or Obama.
Yosemeti Sam| 11.10.09 @ 1:12AM
Hmmmmmm.
Can that movie " 7 Days in May " be that far-fetched as a viable option to counter the ruination of America by those cabalist elements
infesting the Congress and the White House?
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ray| 11.10.09 @ 9:53AM
when is the country going to wake up and realise that, in the case of islam, it is an absolute duty to our freedom, to profile these people and keep them out. not just out of certain segments of society, out of the planet. when a person exibits abhorrent behavior, they are normally punished. when a group of people exibit extreme abhorrent behavior, the ENTIRE group should be punished.
Chris| 11.10.09 @ 12:31PM
German chancelor is leary of the big O. Not surprising, she knows an evil socialist demagogue when she sees one.
J. C. Hawkins | 11.10.09 @ 8:36PM
How disgraceful that Obama could not show up to mark one of the greatest days in the history of human freedom. God forbid that by doing so he would pay tribute to a predecessor, Ronald Reagan. He is totally unAmerican and a total fraud.
Richard Baker| 11.10.09 @ 8:39PM
Sent the present Army Chief of Staff, GEN George Casey, an e-mail on the DOD website telling him that he's got all the stars that he's going to get and to stop sucking up, after his PC response to the Ft. Hood killings. GEN George Marshall was a leader and GEN Matthew Ridgeway was a warrior. The present Chief of Staff is neither. The country is diminished by his lack of those two qualities. What a waste of a commission.
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